I come from a family of machinists (swiss screw mostly) and always loved doing it myself. I just can't stand being inside all day under neon lights. Its soul crushing.😂
Did the tapped holes have to be clocked to one another on each side? Really cool part. Looks like fun. Oh and how did you pump out the swimming pool? Cheers, Tom
It's just two covers, one on each side, so they don't have to be perfect, but I did mark the jaws before flipping it over and then just aligned the marks. The swimming pool? 200 rpm for 10 seconds 😅
Liked the video. I believe a pre-forged pully would have saved a lot of machining time. But then again, if it's a special purpose unit manufacturing then I guess this is the only way to get it done. Cool process and cool video.
Hi Chris. Just discovered your channel & I enjoy how the machinery these days can do so much. I know you need to possibly keep the vlogs to a certain length of time & I was wondering if you could show the whole process from start to finish but speeded up & that way the whole process of what you do can be appreciated just like you did when flipping the pulley over.. Still enjoying what I'm able to see of the process
...and this is what happen when you piss off your deity of choice by not offering him (or her) a proper bloody sacrifice before you commence yer work... ;-) ua-cam.com/video/3-jT3HrSHjE/v-deo.html
Great work as always. I have always used round inserts myself for deep grooving, but have recently been using dnmg more and more for exactly the reason you gave
I make smaller ones on a cnc lathe and just chuck on about 3/8" and do all the machining including the groove on the 1st side. I use a 1/4" wide kennemetal grooving tool and I program it to plunge on one side feed across and plunge again and feed back the other way alternating directions on each pass. It never stops cutting on the groove until I run the finish pass. These little grooving inserts break chips pretty well.
Questo non è un artigiano è solo un programmatore. Qui fa tutto la macchina lui scrive solo dei codici su uno stupido monitor. Gli artigiani sono quelli che lavorano al manuale, altra gente veri artisti
I think radius inserts are more of a necessity in manual machining. At least, for me they are. I don't even want to imagine trying to get a clean three-plus-inch radius with a pointed insert.
Interesting to think about making the same part at a different scale, seeing the intro and drawing I thought there would be problems with chips getting stuck in the middle... I was amused to see the chips just fling out due to the revs! Similarly fun to see the coolant fill the dish and react to the movement, cool to see the fluid behavior, momentum and whatnot. How did you drain the pool before 15:20? a big straw?
Many thanks for this new great video ! I'm pleased to lurn all your technics with you and your vertical lathe. I have a question about the inserts. You always use "gold" inserts. Personnaly I have bought "nano blue" inserts" wich are very strong. Do you use them sometimes ? I have an old lathe (from years 1940, my neighbour gave it to me, it was from his grandad), but it is a very good lathe that is very precise, the clearance is abou 1/100 mm). Many thanks christophe
Hey Chris, super Bauteil was du da gefertigt hast! 👍 Programmierst du selber an der Maschine? So ein Facharbeiter wie du einer bist, ist echt Goldwert! Mach weiter so mit deiner tollen Arbeit
Chris the four 26MM holes you put in for the final operation, i didn't see in the print did you get permission for that or where they on the print, i also saw some large herring bone gears do you make them, i'm going through a gear box now that needs four made for it.
That’s cute. lol. You should see the stuff we have in inventory at work. We deal in marine industrial supply. Anchors, buoys, and trolling blocks as big as they come. Some of it is unreal to see to be honest. I love this industry.
Good choice of when to utilize coolant. Sometimes the chip takes the heat away, other times not. Who provided the forging? Did you have to scale it before turning?
Nice work Chris, thanks for sharing this video. Can you tell us the make and model of the machine? Is this a Fanuc based control? How do you program it?
The Kennametal A4 style tools with the full rad are pretty great for cutting this kind of groove, but maybe not at this scale, i make 12-16" sheaves. the chip control and feedrates are much better than button tools as well.
glad those straps are strong af.... cause the way hes got it rigged that inner section of strap, hooked to the chain, is supporting all the weight of that steel.
This coolant should look like that, or it's 10 years after it should be changed? I really want to throw up a little just from looking at it. Machining beautiful like always
Okay, I understand. I asked the question because I'm working on a bullard vertical lathe, and I'm having difficulty predicting how long it will take to complete the tasks.
I always like watching your content. Some of these machining channels have to much blabbering. They also have sold themselves to the corporate world as marketing hubs.
Gyönyörű alkatrészek , de sokszor láttam már , hogy nagyon sok idő megy rá , drága alkatrészbe telibe fúrja a menetet , olyan kor szinte félve nézem a fúrást , mi van ha bele törik ??
Bonjour, une question peut-être un peu bête : pourquoi ne pas faire une ébauche de la poulie venue de fonderie ou forgée ? Il y aurait moins de copeaux et de temps d'usinage, non ?
To be accurate, it's called a sheave. A sheave is part of a pulley and sheaves are used on cranes where the cables ride. I know this because I am a crane operator.
А я не представляю, зачем здесь ЧПУ . Обычный лоботокарный или карусельный станок для одиночных деталей. Дешевле будет намного. Их ещё со wwII много сохранилось
Guys always wondered how do you manually touch of a neutral tool like the DNMG for the pully? Touching of diameter pretty simple. Do people just touch of the tool shank and go halfway?
it's amazing through how much effort the Americans go to use anything but the metric system :D The drawing was perfect... :D no need to convert anything into bananas if one would just hit the "Switch between Imperial and Metric" button on the machine :D
And then some of us can read both. Funny how people love to criticize American ways yet beat down the door to buy American products. Say how limiting it is. And why would have have kept the system of our oppressors. We are American and proud of it.
Just setting up the piece on the machine must be a whole masterclass on its own. That dial indicator was dead on 0.!
0.00019999
That is a lovely bit of turning 👍👌great video thanks for sharing 👍
From one machinist to another, you are very good at what you do.
Chris, you always post wonderful videos and do such a fantastic job. I love seeing your videos and can not wait for the next one.
I znów elegancka robota ;) fajnie było by się od Pana uczyć, zdrówka
0:09 that chain up job is so symetrical and satisfying 🤤🤤🤤
Very cool! Largest diameter on a VTL I've seen in a long time. Thx!
I come from a family of machinists (swiss screw mostly) and always loved doing it myself. I just can't stand being inside all day under neon lights. Its soul crushing.😂
@@PorkChopAChunky and that's why I started road/ mountain biking years ago. Get my shit together after a week of being in the shop.
@@ChrisMaj I couldn't take it after a few years and went to work outside with wood. Now I long for a shop with neon lights when it's cold outside 😂
What is "Swiss screw"? I'm Swiss and never heard of that. XD
@JanB1605 Swiss screw machines. Similar to a lathe I guess. Google it for a better explanation
@@JanB1605 www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Swiss+screw
Did the tapped holes have to be clocked to one another on each side? Really cool part. Looks like fun. Oh and how did you pump out the swimming pool?
Cheers,
Tom
Tom, i was thinking the same....👀
@@mftmachining me too... Chris? Are yer there? People here are dying to know...! ;-)
Obviously he's not had his meatloaf 😂, was wondering the same Tom
It's just two covers, one on each side, so they don't have to be perfect, but I did mark the jaws before flipping it over and then just aligned the marks. The swimming pool? 200 rpm for 10 seconds 😅
@@ChrisMaj Nice!
Liked the video. I believe a pre-forged pully would have saved a lot of machining time. But then again, if it's a special purpose unit manufacturing then I guess this is the only way to get it done. Cool process and cool video.
Hi Chris.
Just discovered your channel & I enjoy how the machinery these days can do so much.
I know you need to possibly keep the vlogs to a certain length of time & I was wondering if you could show the whole process from start to finish but speeded up & that way the whole process of what you do can be appreciated just like you did when flipping the pulley over..
Still enjoying what I'm able to see of the process
One of those days where you pray to your deity of choice that the chip conveyor doesn't fail.
...and this is what happen when you piss off your deity of choice by not offering him (or her) a proper bloody sacrifice before you commence yer work... ;-)
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Or a tap doesn't break off...
If you’ve been previously brainwashed that is.
@@SilentPartner79How dare you even speak of that type of evil?
@@HarryShagnasty-sc9zd You are so smart and edgy. Christ is King
I love seeing footage of this thing slowing down from high speed. So much momentum.
When you've got four massive brackets (to hold the workpiece) going around, it's very scary.
Great work as always. I have always used round inserts myself for deep grooving, but have recently been using dnmg more and more for exactly the reason you gave
Very cool! I think you should do a tour of your shop, if possible! Very cool machines, would love to see more of them!
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Wow. That's a fancy pulley. Nice job!
Super inspiring. Thanks for showing the drawing. Would be interesting to know the end use.
I reckon it's a big pulley for rope
Polia para cabo de aço. Muito usada em Porto marítimo .
Awesome as usual. Thanks again for the effort and work to post for us regular guys....
I make smaller ones on a cnc lathe and just chuck on about 3/8" and do all the machining including the groove on the 1st side. I use a 1/4" wide kennemetal grooving tool and I program it to plunge on one side feed across and plunge again and feed back the other way alternating directions on each pass. It never stops cutting on the groove until I run the finish pass. These little grooving inserts break chips pretty well.
One the best I have ever seen .hatts off.. Keep rocking ❤
Excellent job, Chris.
Always nice to see a real craftsman at work.
Questo non è un artigiano è solo un programmatore. Qui fa tutto la macchina lui scrive solo dei codici su uno stupido monitor. Gli artigiani sono quelli che lavorano al manuale, altra gente veri artisti
@@MECCANICISTA082 just shut your ignorant mouth. You know nothing.
I like the round inserts for grooves like that. But they are indeed a bit picky about cutting data to get the chips to break properly.
I think radius inserts are more of a necessity in manual machining. At least, for me they are. I don't even want to imagine trying to get a clean three-plus-inch radius with a pointed insert.
Well Done. I just wonder how you get the M16 positions spot on both sides as seen in the drawing.
travail parfait comme d'habitude, merci Chris et bravo👋👋👍👍
VTLs are so much fun when it’s not the computer doing it for you. Retired manual machinist here.😊
12:50 i love how you turned off the coolant because there's enough held in the part to keep the tool cool.
Interesting to think about making the same part at a different scale, seeing the intro and drawing I thought there would be problems with chips getting stuck in the middle... I was amused to see the chips just fling out due to the revs! Similarly fun to see the coolant fill the dish and react to the movement, cool to see the fluid behavior, momentum and whatnot. How did you drain the pool before 15:20? a big straw?
good work ,, nice turning keep it up
Closer to art than hardware! Beautiful work. I'm curious whether you ever get invited by your customers to see you work in action?
Many thanks for this new great video !
I'm pleased to lurn all your technics with you and your vertical lathe.
I have a question about the inserts.
You always use "gold" inserts. Personnaly I have bought "nano blue" inserts" wich are very strong. Do you use them sometimes ?
I have an old lathe (from years 1940, my neighbour gave it to me, it was from his grandad), but it is a very good lathe that is very precise, the clearance is abou 1/100 mm).
Many thanks
christophe
Hey Chris, super Bauteil was du da gefertigt hast! 👍 Programmierst du selber an der Maschine? So ein Facharbeiter wie du einer bist, ist echt Goldwert! Mach weiter so mit deiner tollen Arbeit
Very nice work Chris. That machine makes a change from the usual centre lathe. How long did it take overall to machine?
Can't disclose total times.
Chris the four 26MM holes you put in for the final operation, i didn't see in the print did you get permission for that or where they on the print, i also saw some large herring bone gears do you make them, i'm going through a gear box now that needs four made for it.
Yeah, that 26mm holes were just for the final machining.
...And that's what we former computer technicians call Bloody Impressive. Especially the dial-ins.
Just beautiful work! Thanks for sharing
Damn, every time you turn it it always run at the centre, great job 👏🏻
One got a true sense of the size of the job when you turned it over and you were standing next to it standing vertical. 😲
That’s cute. lol. You should see the stuff we have in inventory at work. We deal in marine industrial supply. Anchors, buoys, and trolling blocks as big as they come. Some of it is unreal to see to be honest. I love this industry.
@ 8:15
Did you face the top of the large red risers after mounting? Or are they hardened like 1,2,3 blocks?
Another Great Video Chris.👍
Good choice of when to utilize coolant. Sometimes the chip takes the heat away, other times not. Who provided the forging? Did you have to scale it before turning?
Quantas horas de usinagem pra executar essa peça.👍🏻
Wonderful, you must be worth your weight in gold to the company you work for.
Nice work Chris, thanks for sharing this video. Can you tell us the make and model of the machine? Is this a Fanuc based control? How do you program it?
@@MisterDuck999 Yama Seiki GV-1600M, Fanuc control, programming, mix of G-codes and manual guide.
@@ChrisMaj Thanks Chris.
The Kennametal A4 style tools with the full rad are pretty great for cutting this kind of groove, but maybe not at this scale, i make 12-16" sheaves. the chip control and feedrates are much better than button tools as well.
I always look forward to the indicating. that thing just won't budge.
Indicator hell, That's BS professional could do it with a scale, Amateurs on display
glad those straps are strong af.... cause the way hes got it rigged that inner section of strap, hooked to the chain, is supporting all the weight of that steel.
How else would it be?
Had 10’ dia VTL at my first job. Closed loooong time ago
How do you align the thru holes between setups #1 and #2? Very cool!
15:25 I wonder hiw they got rid of all the coolent, perhaps put it on top speed and run away!
I was wondering how you were going to hold it for the V part. Very nice
Luckily, they let me drill extra holes for the V-groove machining
I have a question. What is 24/34 (6xM16x24/34 in the drawing) at 0:39 of the video
Drill 34 deep, tap 24
This coolant should look like that, or it's 10 years after it should be changed? I really want to throw up a little just from looking at it. Machining beautiful like always
Nice work. I see you indicate on the rim and show zero runout, but what about the face?
Congratulations on the excellent work. 👏🏻
I would like to know how long it took in hours to carry out this machining?!
Can't really talk about this job much.
Okay, I understand.
I asked the question because I'm working on a bullard vertical lathe, and I'm having difficulty predicting how long it will take to complete the tasks.
@@jhonyc.soares4340легко вычислить заранее, зная вес снимаемой стружки ( как разницу в весе детали и заготовки) и мощность двигателя
2000 lbs of chips, reminds me of a party I went to back in the 70’s.
No almost 5000 lbs of chips remember it said it started at 7000 and ended at 2000.
@@AB-ot3bc👍👍
Lets just take a moment to appreciate the Metric to English hand written conversation on the drawing... 😎
What a beautiful work and piece…. How long did it take to set up am dying to know 😅
I always like watching your content. Some of these machining channels have to much blabbering. They also have sold themselves to the corporate world as marketing hubs.
What do you use to smack the work peice with to tram the part in? A rubber sledge?
A thing of beauty Chris.
Gyönyörű alkatrészek , de sokszor láttam már , hogy nagyon sok idő megy rá , drága alkatrészbe telibe fúrja a menetet , olyan kor szinte félve nézem a fúrást , mi van ha bele törik ??
Bonjour, une question peut-être un peu bête : pourquoi ne pas faire une ébauche de la poulie venue de fonderie ou forgée ? Il y aurait moins de copeaux et de temps d'usinage, non ?
Thanks for sharing 👍 That's one big rope pulley 😅
Beautiful work as always.
To be accurate, it's called a sheave. A sheave is part of a pulley and sheaves are used on cranes where the cables ride. I know this because I am a crane operator.
I can't imagine what a CNC like that costs. Awesome video.
А я не представляю, зачем здесь ЧПУ . Обычный лоботокарный или карусельный станок для одиночных деталей. Дешевле будет намного. Их ещё со wwII много сохранилось
Guys always wondered how do you manually touch of a neutral tool like the DNMG for the pully? Touching of diameter pretty simple. Do people just touch of the tool shank and go halfway?
Good job ! How long did this Pulley take to machine?
Sorry, can't disclose total times.
@@ChrisMaj no problem, I appreciate you answering.
Excellent video!
Is the coolant supposed to look like apple juice or are you actually using apple juice???
it's amazing through how much effort the Americans go to use anything but the metric system :D The drawing was perfect... :D no need to convert anything into bananas if one would just hit the "Switch between Imperial and Metric" button on the machine :D
And then some of us can read both. Funny how people love to criticize American ways yet beat down the door to buy American products. Say how limiting it is. And why would have have kept the system of our oppressors. We are American and proud of it.
@@tireballastserviceofflorid7771Funny how hard it is to buy American products - they all seem to be made in Mexico now…
@allangibson8494 Made in china is all I can find. Mexico ain't much better. Sad to see it. Sadder to live it.
Yeah but then I need to think in surface meters per min and mm/rev and I don't have as good of a feel for those. It's harder to catch my mistakes.
I always get good chips from round inserts but only feeding at .04 to .05 per revolution.
Not sure the material, i might have missed it, but seems fairly soft. No more than 4130 I assume. Especially dry
How many times are we gonna do finishing?
Dig in boy time is money.
why not use a big insert mill to do the roughing ? would be as fast of faster as far as i know
I'm gonna say it's a part for a ski lift or something similar?
Id love to know how long this took from beginning to end. That was soooo much metal removed!
Including set-up, how long did it take to machine?
What grade steel is it?
Insane at 23:30 how such a big heavy piece like that still wants to chatter :D
very nice work i also like dnmg to me the chip breaking is everything.
Brawo! :)👏
that looks a lovely finish
Thats TDZ Turn VTL 1800 or 1600? I worked at VLC 1200, TDZ makes really great machines.
@@spektryt200 Yama Seiki GV-1600M
How do you find the hole position from the already drilled side? Where is the datum?
0.057mm (~0.002") tolerance on the center hole. I'd have a high pucker factor trying to hit that.
Question, why did you arrange the lifting straps like that after flipping it over?
Lower chanse of them slipping while in the air?
Yes, if you put it on the outside, there's a chance it's gonna flip on you.
@ChrisMaj Thank you.
Can this machine mill too? Or just turn and drill? Great video!
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@@ChrisMaj that is awesome!
Hello Chris , around 25rpm on the biggest dia ?
Proud of operater❤😂
"I know, I know" LOL
Piekny komponent :) Przepraszam, ale kolor chłodziwa w maszynie paskudny :P Chyba dawno nie zmieniany? Pozdrawiam
Just curious. Why didn't they spec a weldment or casting? Seems like a lot of wasted machining.
Won’t it deform if you process the cross-section in the second process?
I am surprised that you didn't have to stress release the part prior to finishing it.
What a beautiful part.👍👍👏🏻👏🏻
How many day this job paid, crish?? Good tool program
I like it 👍👍👍💪💪💪👏👏👏
How many hours did you have to put into this masterpiece?
Ugh this is close to what I do for work, why the hell am I watching this on my weekend off
This exactly what I do and also watching 😂