Tekken 7 - Lili Season 2 Changes

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  • One of Lili’s longtime weaknesses has been her poor tracking. To address this, several of her key moves have been given homing properties. Along with improved punishment and a boost to her combo damage, Lili is quite a bit stronger.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 176

  • @vulmiche.7353
    @vulmiche.7353 5 років тому +184

    Lili can just sidestep left her way through life.

  • @omarmks6670
    @omarmks6670 5 років тому +89

    Let it be known that this is the first ever dedicated lili video on this channel!

  • @candasturan4559
    @candasturan4559 5 років тому +100

    The music suits her so well 😍

    • @secretwow3459
      @secretwow3459 5 років тому

      No u

    • @DanBy48
      @DanBy48 5 років тому +3

      She comes from Monaco not France

    • @WaterFLE
      @WaterFLE 5 років тому +1

      Harry Bush Monaco is on France btw

    • @OgaKunieda
      @OgaKunieda 5 років тому

      Love Vagrant

  • @Suenmk3
    @Suenmk3 5 років тому +59

    I don't play 90% of the cast but this video series is a valuable resource in learning what to look out for when playing against these characters.
    Especially when I'm way too lazy to hit the lab and figure it out for myself.

  • @IKI-KIKI
    @IKI-KIKI 5 років тому +22

    Can you hear it, the WAN TU.

  • @JohnnyjohnJ
    @JohnnyjohnJ 5 років тому +4

    Lilis background music was so dope. I feel like she's special in your eyes.

  • @MrVince329
    @MrVince329 5 років тому +7

    Love's Vagrant from Bravely Default!?
    And Kass' theme?!
    Goooood music taste

  • @aadliafiq
    @aadliafiq 5 років тому +99

    Lili mains arent even human - Aris the hagrid

    • @Samz7
      @Samz7 5 років тому +25

      Dude, Aris has never touched a woman in his whole life.

    • @Onheste
      @Onheste 5 років тому +7

      @@Samz7... you mean,.,.,without paying...

    • @Samz7
      @Samz7 5 років тому +1

      @@Onheste True. My bad.

    • @HunterDred
      @HunterDred 5 років тому +3

      And ppl who dislike lili r not even men..!!

    • @aadliafiq
      @aadliafiq 5 років тому

      @@HunterDred Error 404 not found

  • @katoblue6282
    @katoblue6282 5 років тому +2

    OH THANKS! I just started with Lili literally last night! So glad you posted this recently ♥️♥️

  • @byefelicia1996
    @byefelicia1996 5 років тому +2

    Nice Le Crocodile Rose cameo at 2:58 :p

  • @MaulLerGamer
    @MaulLerGamer 5 років тому +6

    Watching this channel talking about tekken is the best!

  • @PhillipMorrison276
    @PhillipMorrison276 5 років тому +16

    I have always liked Lili, overall. But these changes suit my playstyle.

  • @binbinthegreat6964
    @binbinthegreat6964 5 років тому +5

    Been wating for this!!!!!

  • @TheSilentVoid_
    @TheSilentVoid_ 4 роки тому +2

    I always hated Lili with a passion ever since TK5 till now, but I have mad respect to anyone who picks up Lili does some really awesome fighting skills and combos with her. I have been tempted to try her but I love Asuka a lot more.
    But watching videos like yours, even though this is just a season 2 video, makes me feel like I'm getting more important details that labbing just can't give me.

  • @Carlwat78
    @Carlwat78 5 років тому +10

    You are doing God's work, Blasted Salami. :^)

  • @greenpuffle
    @greenpuffle 5 років тому +1

    Been waiting for Lili! Thank you so much for this!!

  • @chacazulo1987
    @chacazulo1987 5 років тому +16

    When i play online i feel like i’m the only one who plays Lili. I barely even see her anymore.

    • @hmarquise
      @hmarquise 5 років тому

      She still has the same issues as she did in S1 so that's why you don't see too many of them. Still risky, still really linear even with the slight buffs she recieved, still doesn't have a good df1, no safe launchers etc....

    • @stylesheetra9411
      @stylesheetra9411 5 років тому

      I didnt see her a lot if s1 tho

    • @chacazulo1987
      @chacazulo1987 5 років тому

      Ruben Hernandez i rather you play paul than Lucky Chloe. Lucky Chloe doesn’t even look like a fighting character. And every1 was pissed when she was revealed, bc it was so weird and stupid.

  • @ryudeen
    @ryudeen 5 років тому +1

    Sucks how her dew glide can be interrupted so much when that's one of her key moves

  • @Juriee.e
    @Juriee.e 5 років тому +2

    Didn’t used Lili that much anymore because she was very linear for my liking but season 2 might get me back with her

  • @sheeneemee
    @sheeneemee 5 років тому +17

    Sorry for posting this irrelevant question regarding a different topic, but could you please explain to me how Lars was considered to be top tier in T6 and TTT2? And why he's considered to be one of the weakest characters in T7? It's bloody confusing to me.

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому +41

      Biggest reason is that his df+2 went from being a safe, mid combo starter on CH to a non-jailing mid, high. This means opponents can duck the 2nd hit and launch it, making it much riskier. Since df+2 was basically the cornerstone of his gameplan, this is a massive blow. He also doesn't suit the Tekken 7 combo system particularly well, so his damage took a hit as well.
      Being considerably less safe and damaging took him from being one of the best in T6/TTT2, to one of the worst in T7.

    • @mitto-kun5337
      @mitto-kun5337 5 років тому +6

      He was low tier in tag 2, but the system was different back then, it was combo oriented and Lars was arguably the best assist anyone could have. The biggest change in Tekken 7 was his loss of df2, a safe 15f mid ch launcher that went under jabs, without it Lars has bottom tier ch moves. In Tekken 6 basically all of Lars moveset was buffed, he had tracking on his weak side with db2, 1 his b2, 1 was safe and the second hit gave an easy combo on ch, b1 had more range, his Uf3 crushed a lot more and had bigger range, he had a normal hit mid launcher from dynamic entry, and his silent entry low knocked down on normal hit. Also due to the bound system, his combo damage was bigger too. And back then his ff1+2 was basically safe due to pushback, when in T7 Shaheen and Gigas can punish it easily.

    • @redblack8766
      @redblack8766 5 років тому +3

      Buff Lars.
      Nerf Bears.

    • @The_End_Of_Mike
      @The_End_Of_Mike 5 років тому

      Since to this day I play tag2 on arcades I can hopefully answer your
      Changing CH df2 to df2,1 was the deal breaker since it's like steve fox's b1 that you keep on spamming till it counterhits and since it's a mid it is safe launcher. He still have CH dynamic entry 2 but the move is slow the opponent can just block it.
      Silent entry df1 doesn't spam the opponent on the ground anymore when used as a combo ender. This is a huge nerf since in tag2 if you end the combo in db2f to silent entry df1 the opponent will be spammed on the ground near you and when they try to roll back you can do a db2,1 basically doing a combo again since it will re-juggle the opponent AND YOU CAN BOUND W/ TAG ASSAULT.

    • @TruthAndReconciliation
      @TruthAndReconciliation 5 років тому +1

      장세현 ua-cam.com/video/yrYn0hX5rFE/v-deo.html here's a full 20 minute video of an ex-Lars main describing what went wrong

  • @LiMeiMain
    @LiMeiMain 5 років тому

    The bg music and narrator suits lili very well

  • @ciprimatahala9587
    @ciprimatahala9587 5 років тому

    Love this video. Helped me a lot💕 Subscribed!

  • @gamingcomedy5
    @gamingcomedy5 5 років тому

    When Salami plays that phat beat from Bravely Default

  • @deekadiko
    @deekadiko 5 років тому +34

    yea it's cool and all, but what about her feet?

  • @melvinshine9841
    @melvinshine9841 5 років тому

    I really need to play Lili more. And Asuka for that matter. They were the closest thing I had to a main before Kazumi and Josie walked into my life.

  • @glowjacat
    @glowjacat 5 років тому

    I swear that reverse donkey kick is some powerful stuff.

  • @Shine603
    @Shine603 5 років тому +1

    As a french sub I have to say I've never seen something more "french" than this video.

    • @LeCrocodileRose
      @LeCrocodileRose 5 років тому +1

      Hahaha mais tellement Arya m'a éclater avec le choix des musiques ^^

  • @timo99nl
    @timo99nl 5 років тому +1

    Finally! J'adore!

  • @seilindh6098
    @seilindh6098 5 років тому

    Great video again!

  • @idon896
    @idon896 5 років тому

    Yoo, Bravely Default OST? And Ringabel's theme too? Noice.

  • @AntifragileStar
    @AntifragileStar 5 років тому +2

    NINA next please but 2.20 tweaks will be out so idk yet

    • @MrOzzification
      @MrOzzification 5 років тому

      Its Lucky Chloe, Master Raven & Miguel up next. Then Nina afterwards

  • @Supersmallpig
    @Supersmallpig 5 років тому

    竟然有中文字幕神了!期待您的第三季版本分享

  • @mshklh2099
    @mshklh2099 5 років тому

    I just thought about playing Lili
    lol you are in my head :)

  • @genosshazard6474
    @genosshazard6474 5 років тому +2

    Finally

  • @JumbaJumby
    @JumbaJumby 5 років тому

    Missed the most important part of rage drive change. It now jails on block, meaning it isn't duckable anymore. Huge deal.
    Gone are the days of getting launched because you dared to use what should be your best move.

  • @tazimaa
    @tazimaa 5 років тому +1

    Oh my god why there are so many L characters??? I'm anxious for my mains Master Raven and Miguel hahahaha

  • @j00-b4b
    @j00-b4b 4 роки тому

    More videos of her, shes queen

  • @countdookie6987
    @countdookie6987 5 років тому

    Now I'm thinking of actually putting in the effort to main her

    • @countdookie6987
      @countdookie6987 5 років тому

      @@sefrollins at least I'm not using K4t4rin4 hehe

    • @kaje3435
      @kaje3435 5 років тому

      Good luck, overcome her weakness against sidestep is huge challenge in higher level of play

    • @Reydriel
      @Reydriel 5 років тому

      Her moveset is super easy to memorise lol. Very simple execution-wise

    • @countdookie6987
      @countdookie6987 5 років тому

      @@kaje3435 It actually doesn't matter to me tbh. I've used lots of characters to improve my fundamentals. I've learned poking and pressure with drag, punishing with kazuya, learned all about evasion and crushes with Jin, now I gotta learn sidestepping with Lili

  • @muby102
    @muby102 5 років тому

    Thought the altissia theme from ffxv would've fit well in the background

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому

      Plenty of FFXV music coming soon

    • @muby102
      @muby102 5 років тому

      @@ThatBlastedSalami great great great (despite it not being the best game ever)

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому

      It definitely has it's flaws, but the OST is great and I found the ending genuinely moving

    • @muby102
      @muby102 5 років тому

      That Blasted Salami yeah it would've been cool to give Noctis a beard in tekken

  • @AngeloGene
    @AngeloGene 5 років тому

    Why do I get the feeling that Lucky Chloe is probably next on the list he covers?
    *notices that the characters he covers are alphabetically arranged*
    Oh, that's why. xD

  • @BlackDiddy1993
    @BlackDiddy1993 5 років тому

    The next is Ling Xiaoyu then lucky chloe and after Master Raven? 🤔

  • @donshyne
    @donshyne 5 років тому

    When are you doing a Law essentials video?

  • @ElLegionario82
    @ElLegionario82 5 років тому +3

    Please, do Nina Season 2 Changes :) :)

  • @chrisa4627
    @chrisa4627 5 років тому

    Bruh this Bravely Default ost though

  • @liberatojr.saavedra5875
    @liberatojr.saavedra5875 5 років тому

    This stage mod looks cool! Mind sharing the link? :)

  • @brianallison9437
    @brianallison9437 5 років тому

    Im never gonna see Shaheen....

  • @isabelahourneaux9147
    @isabelahourneaux9147 4 роки тому +1

    A ok not too bar

  • @ciprimatahala9587
    @ciprimatahala9587 5 років тому

    Season 3 changes???

  • @kewpiemayoh
    @kewpiemayoh 5 років тому

    Who is next?

  • @creeem97
    @creeem97 5 років тому

    I honestly been whooping so much ass with lili I don’t even play tekken anymore

  • @hmarquise
    @hmarquise 5 років тому +1

    I love this video and support your content but as a Lili player I dont believe she has gone up to A. She still has the same issues she's had before( bad df1, tracking still an issue, no safe launcherse,) I also believe that f23 helped with her whiff punish game and was safer to use because of it only being -12 but now its far riskier because of it being a launch punishable move, qcf21 was better in s1 because it was risk free mid she could use from qcf but now its riskier to use and db3 has really poor range so its not really a good move to use in neutral too often. I overall believe she is still B+ maybe solid B now because so many characters got a lot stronger in the patch.

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому

      There's no reason to use f+2,3 outside of punishment though. Her qcf+3+4 being homing now is absolutely incredible, and something I wish I'd highlighted more in this video. It's still +6 on block, making it one of the best homing moves in the game.

    • @hmarquise
      @hmarquise 5 років тому

      @@ThatBlastedSalami No I enjoy using f23 being a 12 frame punisher but the issue is whiff punishing. Lili has a hard time whiff punishing and f23 was really good for that but now its more risky because its launch punishable now. So the chance that her punish might be off or may miss because of timing is now an issue. Also with qcf3+4 being homing is also great believe me lol. But the problem is that its not only a high but because of Lili's lack of tracking and range you can still step or backdash certain situations. Again I mean no disrespect at all to this video I watch every single vid that comes out from you but there's some things I don't agree with.

    • @MichaelSS
      @MichaelSS 5 років тому

      Does Lili really have a hard time whiff punishing? 3,1? f+4? f,f+3+4? d,d/f+2?
      @@hmarquise

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому

      Qcf+3+4 of course has weaknesses, but a plus on block homing is still exceptionally rare and really helps Lili enact her gameplan.
      I really appreciate the feedback, so no worries there. Can understand what you're saying, but overall I think she's gained enough to clearly be better than before. Do bear in mind that "A" is still in the bottom half of the cast, but that's more a reflection of just how strong and balanced the entire roster is.

    • @hmarquise
      @hmarquise 5 років тому

      @@MichaelSS 31 is ok but its slower than f23. Also f2 is safe on block while 3 by itself isnt so in case the opponent happens to block you'll be safe vs being in a shitty situation. F4 is a very good move but its also very linear as well. So if your fighting some one who is moving around a lot chances are that move will miss, ff3+4 is very, very linear and leaves her at -4 so her options are pretty limited afterwards because the recovery is trash. Ws2 is -12 on block and is very telling by her going into a ws motion. I'm not saying to not use those moves but make sure the risk is worth it because tbh in my opinion its really not in most situations.

  • @ZarakTekken8
    @ZarakTekken8 5 років тому +2

    I'm from Pakistan. Love Your Channel That Blasted Salami.

  • @secretwow3459
    @secretwow3459 5 років тому +3

    Y E E E E E E E E E

  • @apple8580
    @apple8580 5 років тому

    how about they buff her more so I can see her online

  • @OgaKunieda
    @OgaKunieda 5 років тому

    Bravely Default

  • @LGSharan
    @LGSharan 5 років тому

    Nice

  • @josephespadero9038
    @josephespadero9038 5 років тому +2

    Now do Ganryu!

  • @CelesteLovesTacos
    @CelesteLovesTacos 5 років тому

    When you doing Steve's Season 2 Changes? Kthx

    • @ThatBlastedSalami
      @ThatBlastedSalami  5 років тому

      L M N O P Q R
      S
      T U V W X Y Z

    • @CelesteLovesTacos
      @CelesteLovesTacos 5 років тому

      @@ThatBlastedSalami Darn, guess I'll just practice my duck cancels in the meantime lol

  • @rubenbullplume3753
    @rubenbullplume3753 2 роки тому

    Well anything's possible like take Alisa for instance she's a Robot And some sort of magic water And whatever breathed Life into her And made her into what she is today And stuff's and stuff's and stuff's and stuff's and stuff's and stuff's and stuff's and stuff's..🤕

  • @hamiasmai08
    @hamiasmai08 5 років тому

    #np Lily by Alan Walker

  • @Rafael57YT
    @Rafael57YT 5 років тому

    LINK FOR THE STAGE PLS? *-*

  • @Reydriel
    @Reydriel 5 років тому

    uf4, 3 is safe now? WTF :DDDD

  • @ryanjohnson781
    @ryanjohnson781 5 років тому

    How does the stage look blue like that?

  • @oswiroa4973
    @oswiroa4973 5 років тому

    The qcf3+4 is a bit too much. Easy +6 all day and dont even consider ducking an option against this h...

  • @balleet210
    @balleet210 5 років тому

    Everyone gettin A+ these days

  • @Pollokyn
    @Pollokyn 5 років тому +1

    Tehe!

  • @mercique
    @mercique 5 років тому

    finallyyy

  • @fighterfanboy2854
    @fighterfanboy2854 5 років тому

    god dammit lmao now i gotta be careful

  • @bujinfujin8603
    @bujinfujin8603 5 років тому

    Lili the same rank as lei wulong........... Wut

  • @一樹コウヘイ
    @一樹コウヘイ 5 років тому

    Man using zelda's music 😂

  • @mark20065
    @mark20065 5 років тому

    I cringe so much whenever a lili player uses this move on me 0:52
    It dosen't even look like she's trying to hit me.

  • @LGSharan
    @LGSharan 5 років тому +2

    Please make Marshall Law essentials video season 2 please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @donshyne
      @donshyne 5 років тому

      Post Alone it smells like you’re a bitch who doesn’t know how to predict Law’s db+3 so you take your frustration out on random people on the internet

    • @LGSharan
      @LGSharan 5 років тому

      🖕😂🖕

    • @CrimeEmperor
      @CrimeEmperor 5 років тому

      Don caught another green rank Law player, I would like to roast you but your internet is too slow you won't see my reply.

  • @bluefacebaby4167
    @bluefacebaby4167 5 років тому +23

    Ew lili

    • @gavindiaz1
      @gavindiaz1 5 років тому +6

      Why all the lili hate D:

    • @bluefacebaby4167
      @bluefacebaby4167 5 років тому

      @@gavindiaz1 bland character that fucked up asuka life for no reason.

    • @pageone7257
      @pageone7257 5 років тому

      gavin diaz built in evasiveness in her moves annoys me the most about her

    • @bluefacebaby4167
      @bluefacebaby4167 5 років тому

      @@pageone7257 her SS3 is just.....ew

    • @omarmks6670
      @omarmks6670 5 років тому +11

      Looks like somebody took too many matterhorns to the face :D

  • @kerlwinarsolon6189
    @kerlwinarsolon6189 5 років тому

    First

  • @HentaiZero
    @HentaiZero 5 років тому

    BRAVELY DEFAULT THO

  • @ZieroTenchi24
    @ZieroTenchi24 5 років тому

    Would you mind doing a xiaoyu video :3?

    • @blackhairedgoon8218
      @blackhairedgoon8218 5 років тому +2

      She's either next or last, depending if it's Ling Xiaoyu or just Xiaoyu

    • @ZieroTenchi24
      @ZieroTenchi24 5 років тому

      @@blackhairedgoon8218 oh ok and yes thats who i meant ^·^. Thank you

    • @K_Narat
      @K_Narat 5 років тому

      BlackHairedGoon She might be last on the list since Ling is her family name. Xiaoyu is her first name and judging by how this list organizes characters by the first name, it might hypothetically take awhile.

    • @K_Narat
      @K_Narat 5 років тому

      Ziero Tenchi She might be last on the list since Ling is her family name. Xiaoyu is her first name and judging by how this list organizes characters by the first name, it might hypothetically take awhile.