If you're interested in getting one of these panels, or others like it, click here: 700w Portable Infrared NXT Gen Heating Panel: www.suryaheating.co.uk/700w-nxt-gen-infrared-heating-panel.html?nxt3 All Infrared Heating Panels: www.suryaheating.co.uk/ir-panel-heaters.html?p7 And the FLIR ONE Pro is available here: amzn.to/3TxHQ9P. On offer for £226 at the time of writing.
Poor Baby. Unless you’re holding or petting her, she must wander where you all are most of her time alone. Give her lots of hugs while she can get them! Oh, nice review. Your information is priceless.
Let's remember, infrared heater of 700W will add 700Wh of heat in an hour. An aircon will output 2800-3500 Wh of heat energy with 700Wh of electricity. So use a heatpump as primary, infrared for the coziness.
I've had a 500w Infrared panel for just over a year now - my bedroom is above an uninsulated garage which was a nightmare to heat with the central heating but getting the heating panel has genuinely been a revelation! I set it at the temperature I want and leave it - the room has stayed nice and cosy ever since
I've bought a couple of smaller ones in the last few days, both free-standing, the first one for the kitchen where the small central heating radiator doesn't heat the room enough (yes, I've also got a wife!). A 540W panel fits conveniently under the breakfast bar and makes a big difference. Encouraged by that one I bought a very cheap (£30 from The Range) 425W panel for the conservatory. It's just 600mm x 600mm but it works a treat for taking the chill off in the evenings at this time of year.
Was interested in IR panels as the heat effect directly on you is very nice. Went to the Hershel showroom in Bristol. Was singularly unimpressed! Seemed to take an age to heat up and then you had to be really right in front of it to feel the effect. Then also discovered you could not alter its power like say an oil filled radiator. If it is an 800W or a 1kW or 2kW panel, that is what it consumes all the time pretty much...which I think works out very very expensive. What I did find it impressive was the garden IR heaters. These "glow" orange but gave off a fantastic heat, but not so nice inside a house. A panel would be better for that that emits no visible light.
Using a smaller one for under the desk to keep my feet warm during winter, works great. But to say hat you will only use panels to for heating throughout the house is not that easy, you would need to plan that much more carefully. I think they are great as a addition to extra comfort.
There is a guide on the Mirrorstone website as to how many and what size panels for room size plus how they are best positioned. I bought three to trial two off 700w units for the large sitting room as I wanted to space them out and 1 off ceiling mounted unit for the kitchen which I positioned over the kitchen table, this also has a built in LED surround light which you can alter depending on how bright you want it to be so full bright white light when cooking etc and a nice soft yellow light when eating or entertaining. They work just as describes and are great when you simply need pretty instant localised heating, which we do during the day when the central heating is off. I am definitely purchasing another ceiling unit for the dining room. We have Solar Panels and also storage batteries so we can store the suns energy and then use it when required, yes it is like having the sun shining into the room.
Seemed like you are trying to heat the air space with it, but as i understand it the point is you heat the people (and things) and not the air... though if the directionality is so narrow, then that might be quite limiting.
I've run my entire house using IR heating for the last two winters. It's performed well and been cheap to run in comparison to my old wood pellet boiler. We heat rooms using much less power than other direct electric options for space heating.
I'm looking at installing a small IR heater in the bathroom with a motion sensor. The bathroom is currently unheated and I can't afford to heat it constantly. Having a motion sensor seems like the perfect solution since it eliminates manually switching it on and off and the problem of forgetting to turn it off.
@@MrEV Just need one that will fit in the small space, have an appropriate IP rating and as it's a small room, low enough power. Probably about 600W.
I'm looking for a smaller one with mirror finish for our downstairs loo. Should be really good on those cold winter days as there is no heat in there just now.
Another great video. I'm sure Chuck would be have sympathy with your head ache situation. Some how i don"t think he would be an EV driver. Love your doggie.
I really like them, it is really like sitting in the sun - you have to experience it to understand. I've installed a few infra red heaters in homes and I'm converted. They seem to work well on the ceiling, pointing at you. Don't forget you would need to work out the BTU for a larger room. You might need a bigger panels and maybe 2/3 of them. My Aero flow electric heaters are not quiet when they cool down, I'm tempted to switch across to infrared.
Just a tidbit of info, FLIR (fleer) used to mean Forward Looking Infra Red , a military invention now used for everything from night vision goggles, youtubers finding hotspots, up to search and rescue drones flying at night. (Doesn't mention the Paris picture)
When it comes to placement my experience roof with lights , easily the best, 2a minor tilt down,3 plenty of fabrics, furniture etc. in the way with clear sight, not ideal for Porch or garden room . Best way to think of it think of a window with the bright sun beeming in , 300w is only ideal as a small room secondary heating , 500w to 1.2kwh is idea for larger rooms, and yes you may need two or more for large 20ft plus rooms, it’s still cheaper using conventional or heat pump for who house setups unless you have a lot of solar pv day time excess than exporting
Our heat pump is running at the moment, 9c outside. Open loop system with no zoning. UFH throughout. 12 rooms heated to 22c whole system is pulling 700w. 😊
That was interesting and, yes, there are videos through a channel fronted by Dr Roger Seheult that clarifies the claimed benefits of both natural sunlight and near-IR lamps using studies.
The air temperature is not really relevant as the heating is direct and indirect impingement. Creighton's video on this is also useful to see, like any system you have to match the heaters to room dimensions. I am looking at ceiling mounted IR panels with bathroom wall mounted ones.
I've been wondering if they can be shrunk down for use in an EV if they could be efficient enough to be better than an EV heat pump for heating, one for each seating position so only one needs to work if one person in the car
Warming a room up will depend on how much "stuff" you have in the room. The stuff will probably feel warmer than the air temp.... of course, that includes people. So theoretically, your usual heating could be giving the air temp 17 degrees but you could feel as if you are in the sun at 21. Bathroom definitely sounds like a good idea if your panel was on the opposite wall to where you hang your towels or shower...or on the ceiling No more getting out the shower and shivering. If you have panels in every room then it could replace any other heating systems. Then your timing becomes useful so you can turn them on to warm up whatever room you are going to - say half an hour before bedtime, warm your bedroom. Although we do have a heat pump our conservatory is often chilly in winter months so I'm now considering a panel like this for that area.
I have a 800W (not specifically IR) Dimplex electric panel heater in my smallish living room. It produces heat from conduction/convection and IR (lets not forget all sources of heat produce IR, it's just that IR panels produce more of it). Anyway I find my panel heater is fine for most of the year, I add another 600W heater on the coldest days. And a few hours a year I roll out my old 2kW heater and turn the other two off.
I am thinking of using such a panel in the bathroom for the mid-season, when it is already too hot for central heating during the day, but on cold mornings this would be a good motivator to sprint to the bathroom. To'what distance can you feel the radiant heat with this panel? Or do you have to be really close to it?
Ifra red radiation is what heat literally is. So it is radiating heat. That's what it does. If you leave it on for an hour, you shouldn't find the air ambient temperature won't have heated up much at all, except by absorbing heat off of the objects in the range of the heating panel. So for the most part, it should be heating instantly.
I'm listening to you talk about how nice radiant heaters are with my 1960s tech, which is 0 - 5kW and does convection as well, plus a fraction of the size and 1/3 of the running costs. A couple of points. Firstly it is giving out infrared closer to the spectrum of the sun than something of a very low temperature, which would be far infra red. The other thing is the temperature you reach and hence the efficiency of the system depends on the colour of your cloths. Black is best, white will reflect most of it. My heating bill halved compared to using the central heating radiators. The concept of radiant heaters is a good one. You guys rediscover the past. Of course my heater is Made in England. It is why it is still working.
I bought a cheap infra red heating panel from Amazon, as an experiment to help a friend keep warm over winter. It did a great job, and really quite economical. I'd guess this premium brand would be even better.
You have to think of this like you would sunshine outdoors. 55F outside feels very different on a sunny day than it does on a cloudy day. Really the optimal use of this is to be able to keep a low air temperature throughout the house and place the panels strategically facing where people are at usually. TLDR: you're not using it correctly in this video.
I'm totally unsure of why you did this. I guess it's my choice as to whether I watch it or not. Not is my choice. My wife and I really enjoy your family tests of EVs and accessories. My $0.02!
Sorry to say I bought a 700 unit but it was terrible just didn’t like it at all, certainly didn’t warm up the room or me when I sat in front of it. Possibly a rubbish brand I got but put me off for good.
I do wish someone with a health check kit reaches out to Andrew with a free test. That mark on his face - that seemingly comes and going - if not easily explained - could be anaemia but also potentially an undiagnosed liver or kidney issue. Get yourself checked! Park the EVs for a week. Ask how I know! Good luck with the channel.
A great informative video, especially the power usage. But, as the heat is so highly directional, you'd need to make sure to have lots of panels pointing at the highest density items in a room so they can eventually radiate the infrared heat back into a room, once the panel had been on long enough. Then you're looking at many panels costing a few pound an hour, for however long it takes for the radiating effect.
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If you're interested in getting one of these panels, or others like it, click here:
700w Portable Infrared NXT Gen Heating Panel:
www.suryaheating.co.uk/700w-nxt-gen-infrared-heating-panel.html?nxt3
All Infrared Heating Panels:
www.suryaheating.co.uk/ir-panel-heaters.html?p7
And the FLIR ONE Pro is available here: amzn.to/3TxHQ9P. On offer for £226 at the time of writing.
Poor Baby. Unless you’re holding or petting her, she must wander where you all are most of her time alone. Give her lots of hugs while she can get them! Oh, nice review. Your information is priceless.
She falls asleep eventually but struggles if we’re not all in the house. 😞
Let's remember, infrared heater of 700W will add 700Wh of heat in an hour. An aircon will output 2800-3500 Wh of heat energy with 700Wh of electricity. So use a heatpump as primary, infrared for the coziness.
Yeah this is as efficient as running a space heater, which is to say, not very efficient. Heat pumps are far more efficient.
I've had a 500w Infrared panel for just over a year now - my bedroom is above an uninsulated garage which was a nightmare to heat with the central heating but getting the heating panel has genuinely been a revelation! I set it at the temperature I want and leave it - the room has stayed nice and cosy ever since
That’s fantastic!
I've bought a couple of smaller ones in the last few days, both free-standing, the first one for the kitchen where the small central heating radiator doesn't heat the room enough (yes, I've also got a wife!). A 540W panel fits conveniently under the breakfast bar and makes a big difference. Encouraged by that one I bought a very cheap (£30 from The Range) 425W panel for the conservatory. It's just 600mm x 600mm but it works a treat for taking the chill off in the evenings at this time of year.
Was interested in IR panels as the heat effect directly on you is very nice. Went to the Hershel showroom in Bristol. Was singularly unimpressed! Seemed to take an age to heat up and then you had to be really right in front of it to feel the effect. Then also discovered you could not alter its power like say an oil filled radiator. If it is an 800W or a 1kW or 2kW panel, that is what it consumes all the time pretty much...which I think works out very very expensive. What I did find it impressive was the garden IR heaters. These "glow" orange but gave off a fantastic heat, but not so nice inside a house. A panel would be better for that that emits no visible light.
Using a smaller one for under the desk to keep my feet warm during winter, works great.
But to say hat you will only use panels to for heating throughout the house is not that easy, you would need to plan that much more carefully. I think they are great as a addition to extra comfort.
There is a guide on the Mirrorstone website as to how many and what size panels for room size plus how they are best positioned. I bought three to trial two off 700w units for the large sitting room as I wanted to space them out and 1 off ceiling mounted unit for the kitchen which I positioned over the kitchen table, this also has a built in LED surround light which you can alter depending on how bright you want it to be so full bright white light when cooking etc and a nice soft yellow light when eating or entertaining. They work just as describes and are great when you simply need pretty instant localised heating, which we do during the day when the central heating is off. I am definitely purchasing another ceiling unit for the dining room. We have Solar Panels and also storage batteries so we can store the suns energy and then use it when required, yes it is like having the sun shining into the room.
Seemed like you are trying to heat the air space with it, but as i understand it the point is you heat the people (and things) and not the air... though if the directionality is so narrow, then that might be quite limiting.
I've run my entire house using IR heating for the last two winters. It's performed well and been cheap to run in comparison to my old wood pellet boiler. We heat rooms using much less power than other direct electric options for space heating.
I'm looking at installing a small IR heater in the bathroom with a motion sensor.
The bathroom is currently unheated and I can't afford to heat it constantly.
Having a motion sensor seems like the perfect solution since it eliminates manually switching it on and off and the problem of forgetting to turn it off.
Great idea!
@@MrEV
Just need one that will fit in the small space, have an appropriate IP rating and as it's a small room, low enough power.
Probably about 600W.
I'm looking for a smaller one with mirror finish for our downstairs loo. Should be really good on those cold winter days as there is no heat in there just now.
It’s a perfect place for them.
Another great video. I'm sure Chuck would be have sympathy with your head ache situation. Some how i don"t think he would be an EV driver. Love your doggie.
I really like them, it is really like sitting in the sun - you have to experience it to understand. I've installed a few infra red heaters in homes and I'm converted. They seem to work well on the ceiling, pointing at you. Don't forget you would need to work out the BTU for a larger room. You might need a bigger panels and maybe 2/3 of them. My Aero flow electric heaters are not quiet when they cool down, I'm tempted to switch across to infrared.
That’s really useful, thanks!
Just a tidbit of info, FLIR (fleer) used to mean Forward Looking Infra Red , a military invention now used for everything from night vision goggles, youtubers finding hotspots, up to search and rescue drones flying at night.
(Doesn't mention the Paris picture)
Fascinating, thanks!
When it comes to placement my experience roof with lights , easily the best, 2a minor tilt down,3 plenty of fabrics, furniture etc. in the way with clear sight, not ideal for Porch or garden room . Best way to think of it think of a window with the bright sun beeming in , 300w is only ideal as a small room secondary heating , 500w to 1.2kwh is idea for larger rooms, and yes you may need two or more for large 20ft plus rooms, it’s still cheaper using conventional or heat pump for who house setups unless you have a lot of solar pv day time excess than exporting
Our heat pump is running at the moment, 9c outside. Open loop system with no zoning. UFH throughout. 12 rooms heated to 22c whole system is pulling 700w. 😊
We’ll do the same at our next house I think.
@@MrEV Great to hear. Keep up the good work. Love your channel.
@@richardcorns8553 Thanks so much!
That was interesting and, yes, there are videos through a channel fronted by Dr Roger Seheult that clarifies the claimed benefits of both natural sunlight and near-IR lamps using studies.
The air temperature is not really relevant as the heating is direct and indirect impingement. Creighton's video on this is also useful to see, like any system you have to match the heaters to room dimensions. I am looking at ceiling mounted IR panels with bathroom wall mounted ones.
I've been wondering if they can be shrunk down for use in an EV if they could be efficient enough to be better than an EV heat pump for heating, one for each seating position so only one needs to work if one person in the car
Warming a room up will depend on how much "stuff" you have in the room. The stuff will probably feel warmer than the air temp.... of course, that includes people. So theoretically, your usual heating could be giving the air temp 17 degrees but you could feel as if you are in the sun at 21. Bathroom definitely sounds like a good idea if your panel was on the opposite wall to where you hang your towels or shower...or on the ceiling No more getting out the shower and shivering.
If you have panels in every room then it could replace any other heating systems. Then your timing becomes useful so you can turn them on to warm up whatever room you are going to - say half an hour before bedtime, warm your bedroom.
Although we do have a heat pump our conservatory is often chilly in winter months so I'm now considering a panel like this for that area.
Your home is really beautiful!
Thanks so much!
I have a 800W (not specifically IR) Dimplex electric panel heater in my smallish living room.
It produces heat from conduction/convection and IR (lets not forget all sources of heat produce IR, it's just that IR panels produce more of it).
Anyway I find my panel heater is fine for most of the year, I add another 600W heater on the coldest days.
And a few hours a year I roll out my old 2kW heater and turn the other two off.
What advantage does this 700w panel have over a 700w oil filled radiator or 700w fan heater ?
I am thinking of using such a panel in the bathroom for the mid-season, when it is already too hot for central heating during the day, but on cold mornings this would be a good motivator to sprint to the bathroom. To'what distance can you feel the radiant heat with this panel? Or do you have to be really close to it?
About 2 metres is the limit I'd say. Absolutely perfect for a bathroom.
Just be careful with electrics in a bath/shower room, definitely possible best to engage with your local electrician 👍
Great video, very informative, though you might have a new career modelling cashmere pullovers....
😂
Another member of the family steals the limelight!
Next house already ?
OMG that Paris Picture...
Look away! The angle gets worse the more you look at it. 😀
Ifra red radiation is what heat literally is. So it is radiating heat. That's what it does. If you leave it on for an hour, you shouldn't find the air ambient temperature won't have heated up much at all, except by absorbing heat off of the objects in the range of the heating panel. So for the most part, it should be heating instantly.
What about…
On the garage floor in the winter, under the EV battery? Is it too powerful to be safe for that sort of use?
Interesting! I suppose that might work although I'd not want to test it myself!
That not efficient. Better to plug the EV in and let it heat itself from the inside.
I'm listening to you talk about how nice radiant heaters are with my 1960s tech, which is 0 - 5kW and does convection as well, plus a fraction of the size and 1/3 of the running costs.
A couple of points. Firstly it is giving out infrared closer to the spectrum of the sun than something of a very low temperature, which would be far infra red. The other thing is the temperature you reach and hence the efficiency of the system depends on the colour of your cloths. Black is best, white will reflect most of it. My heating bill halved compared to using the central heating radiators. The concept of radiant heaters is a good one. You guys rediscover the past. Of course my heater is Made in England. It is why it is still working.
If you plug in a 3kw heater then it's going to use 3kw of electric, it wont use a 1/3 less.
@@dogbreath6974 It's gas.
You could ‘art’ these up and wall mount them 🤔
I bought a cheap infra red heating panel from Amazon, as an experiment to help a friend keep warm over winter. It did a great job, and really quite economical. I'd guess this premium brand would be even better.
Great to hear!
But they don't heat the fabric of the building so only good if you are sitting in front of it
You have to think of this like you would sunshine outdoors. 55F outside feels very different on a sunny day than it does on a cloudy day. Really the optimal use of this is to be able to keep a low air temperature throughout the house and place the panels strategically facing where people are at usually.
TLDR: you're not using it correctly in this video.
Can you please raise that Paris frame just a couple more millimetres, it’s freaking me out.
OCD is helpful in so many situations. That’s my excuse anyway…
It's been killing me the whole time during the edit. I was thinking "at least no-one will notice". 😭
I'm totally unsure of why you did this. I guess it's my choice as to whether I watch it or not. Not is my choice. My wife and I really enjoy your family tests of EVs and accessories. My $0.02!
I review things for the home as well if they’re a bit ‘eco’. Whatever interests me really.
Sorry to hear your dog is getting so old.
Thanks. 17 is a good age!
Sorry to say I bought a 700 unit but it was terrible just didn’t like it at all, certainly didn’t warm up the room or me when I sat in front of it. Possibly a rubbish brand I got but put me off for good.
That's a shame. It sounds like it was broken.
They heat solid things like humans and not the air. This is why they are nicer as the air in the room doesn't get stuffy.
Switching from gas boiler to Air-air heatpump, I was looking for Infrared panel for toilets 😅 👍
Funnily enough, I say the same in the video! It'd be perfect for that.
Bit messy! LOL
I do wish someone with a health check kit reaches out to Andrew with a free test. That mark on his face - that seemingly comes and going - if not easily explained - could be anaemia but also potentially an undiagnosed liver or kidney issue. Get yourself checked! Park the EVs for a week. Ask how I know! Good luck with the channel.
Can you get a tan off it? 🏖
Apparently not! 😀
@@MrEV That's UV not IR....
@@bellshooter Yes, I thought that was obvious! I think the original comment was a joke.
A great informative video, especially the power usage. But, as the heat is so highly directional, you'd need to make sure to have lots of panels pointing at the highest density items in a room so they can eventually radiate the infrared heat back into a room, once the panel had been on long enough. Then you're looking at many panels costing a few pound an hour, for however long it takes for the radiating effect.