I did! When I saw a caption which read "young Canadian couple", I immediately assumed they were on vacation in the US. Careful, Canada; remain the quiet, sane neighbours to the North.
The issues escalated from repairs needing to be done in the young couple's apartment. Apparently, they reported the problem to the city as nothing was fixed, the report caused the landlord to snap. Tragic, 3 lives gone and many others forever ruined, all over a reportedly bad landlord, and unsatisfied tenants. Perhaps we'll never know the full story, as all concerned are deceased. I feel so sad and sorry for the victim's families.
@@margaretr5701 thank you for that info. Very sad because you are right all three had loved ones I’m sure left behind. It’s the landlords job to keep their place up if someone is paying every month on time. . So very sad . 🙏
we live in a world where people are fed up with bullshit, and people are thin skin, you cannot say anything anymore , people are getting layoff with Email and there less and less Human interaction, why do you think So Stephanie ??? more and more people have anxiety and depression and were in a Post Covid and let me tell you it only the beginning and here it only the peak of the iceberg what we see on the news
Sounds like he was crazy the neighbours said he was creepy used to stand on the roof and stare at them. Those poor young people that had their whole lives ahead of them. Sad thst we have such insane people in the world. Unhinged
Anyone trying to find any tiny reason to defend the landlord should be on the government watch list. Particularly if they are a landlord themselves - nothing justifies publicly executing people on the lawn and street. The neighbours were forced to witness this act of inhumanity too. Hope he rots in hell
@@Sophie-and-Ken ua-cam.com/video/vzDE49v1Ytc/v-deo.html this video from local CHCH in Hamilton directly quotes the police who say the tenants are innocent and it was over health concerns due to the state of the unit. Nice try defending a scumbag murderer though, I hope you don’t have guns.
I have basement tenants. Lovely family. The guy mows my lawn and cleans the snow whenever I'm away. So whenever he has a request, I am happy to help. It's simple mutual respect
Municipalities need to start licensing landlords like they do other businesses (taxis, restaurants etc), ensuring they have knowledge of the laws pertaining to Residential Tenancy and are paying their taxes to CRA. My condolences to all those affected, R.I.P.
This is one of those good ideas that would be a disaster if implemented - it is rife with unintended consequences. So we do this test with all the landlords... and some fail. Well then what? They can't have tenants so now we have to kick the tenants that were living under these landlords out and they just lost their place to live. Even in the case of running the test only on new landlords... some fail and now we have less rental space then we would have had otherwise. It is a good idea if your in region that has a reasonably high vacancy rate - where landlords compete with each other in order to get tenants - but in the ultra tight housing market of southern Ontario the cure is worse then the disease.
@@kuruptzZz Someone mentioned the Property Standards. My sense is that some units don't start out legal, the landlord doesn't fix, the tenant gets educated on the law and brings in property standards resulting in an all out war.
Do you know that there are practically no legal recourse for land lords in Ontario. I am still waiting for action on paperwork that I filed in August 2022. No govt offices were working on site under the excuse of covid. No one answers the phones. It is all a scam. All the laws are biased against the landlords. That is why renters are emboldened to not pay rent and just be squatters.
@@PunjabiGhazal 1- all govt offices and courts are open. I was just at Service Canada the other day and also went to Service Ontario for a Health Card. No issues at either level of govt. In and out in less than 20 minutes. Wtf are you babbling on about? 2- it doesn't matter what your problem is. If you think murdering two people is the solution to a problem then you are one sick twisted fu$ck. 3- this wasn't about rent. It was about the living conditions of the house. If the renters didn't like the condition they were living in then it is a free country they could have left.
Do you have any idea the pains landlords have to go through to evict deadbeat tenants? The law mostly protects tenants in Ontario, I've watched endless nightmare tenant stories in the media since the pandemic, I've lost count!
consider so many squatter or troublesome tenants around, No need to pay 3 days ahead, pay on the last day of the month and always do righteous behavior; don't do 2 tons of laundry every other day, always switch off lights when going out for long period of hours, less visitors every day, no overnight visitors; assumme you have a good landlord, your landlord won't even increase your rent next term and he will beg you to stay! TRUST ME!
This is insane for Canada!!!!! Wth? We would like follow up on this please. Did this guy have a permit, what involves clearing conditions for a permit (I know it's pretty strict) and what was wrong with him that he shot two people, his own renters? Did he have mental health issues like depression, extreme anger issues? He had something.
The only thing we know about the landlord was male, 57 years-old, lived upstairs and guns were legal. No word yet on a psychiatric condition. Perhaps we’ll learn more from his girlfriend who lived with him, she might shed light on what provoked him.
Immediately assuming there's a psychiatric condition is unfair to the hundreds of thousands of people struggling with mental issues and are no threat to anyone. This could very simply be that the landlord was going through something personal (divorce or whatever) and this argument with tenants pushed him past his limits. Mentally Ill people are more likely to be the subject of violence than to be violent themselves and to immediately jump to that as the cause is to cater to the worst part of human biases.
@Brendan New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
Truly innocent as in probably refused to pay rent for a year, destroyed the place and called therfore department to say it was unsafe to cause trouble........
Landlord and tenant board should be accountable and law makers are responsible for 3 deaths. Law should should be treated fare not in tenant favor nor Landlord . Landlord Tennant board faver to tenant then this type of results comes out.
So true! If you think your landlord is creepy or your landlord says they want their property vacated, it might be wise to leave. And if you're unable to pay or run into hard times, try and negotiate in a cordial manner, don't start throwing around tenancy protection laws, yada yada.... It's a not win situation this, how so tragic!
Tbh, it’s very unfair for the current law between tenant and landlord in Ontario. For example, it’s really hard to evict a tenant who don’t pay rents, usually the waiting time for LTB to start hearing will be almost 1year, so it means the landlord have to let the tenant stay until the result comes out. Obviously governments transfer their responsibilities to the landlord, to enhance conflicts between tenants and landlord. And it makes good tenants in a passive situation as well, because landlord knows how unfair the current law is, will definitely ask for more before signing the contract.
@@bear-ew7jg no, I get what you are saying, and this might be the case in a good landlord, bad tenant. But is the law fair when the role is reversed? When it’s a bad landlord, good tenant situation?
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
Probably did not pay Rent, landlord feels upset and built up his temper. The government needs to change the landlord and tenant board system, allow Landlords to collect rent
*Wrong* - how quick you are to *victim-blame.* The couple were up-to-date on rent. They'd raised concerns about mold in their basement apartment that the landlord did not address. They eventually got an order for the landlord to repair, and on the day it was issued, he shot the couple *in the back,* as they *fled,* on the front lawn. The landlord then barricaded himself in his house and there was a *stand-off* with police, who shot and killed him.
Awful. My prayers to all involved. Hyper Inflation, homelessness everywhere, foodbank usage highest ever. Crime on the rise. Bad roads, Empty bike lanes everywhere causing congestion on the roads everywhere. Red light cameras, speed cameras alot of ill will between people because of the pandemic nobody trusts anyone anymore. Im surprised this isnt happening all the time.
@vinrico4704 - *You* brought up *bike lanes* - and they likely commented on it because (like me) they thought it was a *ridiculous reason* to attribute to current _societal unrest._ I've been a *year-round cyclist* in Toronto (even during rain and snowstorms) for over 35 years - way before _any bike lanes_ - and there's *always* been traffic on *arterial roads* and *highways* (FYI - Dundas Street E & W is a *highway)* - and it's caused by *_poor road instructure_* that prioritized cars, SUVs and trucks, but not considering *Vulnerable Road Users* (VRUs), like *_pedestrians, wheelchair/mobility device users,_* *cyclists,* and now _e-bikes, e-scooters_ and other _micro-mobility e-riders._ As for whining about so-called "empty bike lanes," you've heard the phrase "Build it and they will come;" it takes time for people to adjust to new things, and *installing safe bike lanes* that *protect* cyclists & e-riders (i.e. more than simply painted lines on roads) encourages them to try them. There's been a big increase in people riding bicycles and using bike lanes, especially since the pandemic, when many who worked in essential services started cycling to and from work to avoid public transit, then continued to, post-pandemic. Cycle Toronto, the city's largest cycling advocate organization that works with the city in an advisory capacity, has done studies and bicycle counts that support the increase in cyclists over the past 20-odd years, and especially since *Vision Zero* (for safe streets & reduced fatalities of VRUs) was implemented.
Heartbreaking and sad..... condolences to their families. Glad the shooter is dead though because he gave up his right to live after taking away 2 innocent lives regardless of the rationale
Tenant looks like giving hard time to Landlord. Therefore probably took that action he should not. Landlord was living there for long time neighbors didn't complain tenant must gave Landlord hard time now result is there.
About a month ago landlord and tennant went at it in Jamaica one person end up dead the other in the hospital.. I think it was the landlord that was stabbed... I will not be renting my basement. When they come its all peaceful and suddenly your safe spot your home gets turned into something else.. Drinking parties ... friends over constantly..... all of a sudden a whole lot of people know your address.. Its not worth it. Just make do.
Yes, it had happened to me that some of my basement tenants did exactly the same; the lease contract was for 2 persons but ended up with 4 or 5, and not much noise but tons of laundry every other day, then people in & out after 3 or 5 a.m !
Yeah but remember if you live in Toronto they bring in a socialist tax last February called occupancy tax it is very deadly because my understanding is that the government (Tory) thought it would be a good idea to find out how many people live on your home and see many free room you have left so they can subject landlord (guilty) into renting to help homeless ( Canada Sercertly telling us your house is to be shared) with this tax... Torontians be very careful who you vote for ( no Oliver) for sure she seems to have her eyes on increasing this tax..... yeah, I am no politician, but Matlow, I believe, would be the best (tester )for mayor's...... of Toronto ...........
It's a tragedy 😢 for both sides of families, cause no one problem, small or big, worth the life of 3 people. I'm pretty sure, it was lots of possibilities to fix it. Unfortunately now is too late.😢
There are a lots of questions to be asked here and yet not answer or detail information: 1. What are the description of both lanlord and tenants, 2. Is the firearm legally registered, 3. What are the neighbors' comments on this landlord and tenant?
The local news said the firearms were legally owned. The tenants were an EA at a local school and an electrician who were both working and the dispute was over the slum lord not repairing the unit where they had to go through the city which caused him to snap. The neighbours describe all parties as quiet people and they had no idea this was coming, they also didn’t know the guy owned guns.
You can always get a firearms if you have a good friend who is over 60 years old and had worked as a farm hands in his early years or as a current amateur hunter; in region like Yukon, getting a firearm ( rifle ) is as easy as going to WALmart to get some vegetables!
That is to garner some sympathy for them and hatered for the landlord. It would perhaps garner more points if the engaged couple were LGBTQ++ so that more labels could be placed on the land lord. These so called reporters are more pathetic than pimps on the street.
@@RobShuttleworth Man s hut up - you know nothing about narcissistic personality disorder and if cluster B more likely antisocial/sociopath. "Muh narc - maYbe hE wuz a NarCissIsT!" - stop throwing that word around like a bitter soccer mom.
top most dangerous cities in Canada ( according to statistics Canada in 2022-23 : #1 Surrey( Vancouver ) , #2 Brampton, Hamilton, London, Oshawa , Ste-Catherines , , Kelowna, Nanaimo , Kamloops, Red Deer, Lethbridge
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
I bet 99% that they did not pay their rent or maybe they refused to vacate the unit. I do not see any other reason as to why a landlord would shoot his tenants.
If the police haven't released anything while they investigate, how can they give any information? They're not Faux News, and just make something up for ratings.
Two sides to every story. Was the shooter right in this? Not at all. But you don't go off the deep end like that for no reason. There are an overabundance of bad renters and they can make home owners lives absolute living hells. Time will tell and hopefully a vlear story comes out of this all in the very least.
@alna2530- The basement apartment tenants had raised concerns about mold in their unit, that the landlord did not address. They filed a report with the city, and on the day he was served the repair order, he shot the two in the back on the front lawn as they fled.
What is wrong with the people of this world. I visited Hamilton many times and thought it was very nice place to live. I think it is still a nice place to live. People are just crazy.
Yes, killing your tenants use be made illegal immediately! Also look up what happens if tenets don’t pay or refuse to leave your bed and breakfast and tell me how much more control over landlord is needed.
paaabI0: You didn't understand the system. The government stands for the interest of the landlords. That is why The Landlords increase rent as They want
Is this really a big surprise to everyone I could have sworn that it was commonly known that Hamilton landlords are the worst landlords in the country. I swear I thought everybody already knew that.....
Landlords all across the country have had it easy for at least the last 10 years. The real estate market has been inflating all over. Rentals have been unreasonable for about as long. Gov’t needs to get back to building public housing. They used to up until about 30 years ago. But then neo liberal economics took over… “let the markets take care of it”. Since then building hasn’t kept pace with population growth. Now we have a wicked problem wherein institutional investors are heavy with real estate. When the bubble bursts a bunch of pension plans are going to suffer. I don’t care about property management businesses, they’ve had it too good for too long.
@@CarFreeSegnitz A lot of it boils down to personal decisions. I'm 29 and have a house in North Vancouver, and I got it because I was willing to settle for a house in Agassiz for a few years (house was 500k). It basically doubled and now I have a decent home. The majority of people are very bad with finances, which is why most young people can't get a house. I have a 1 year accounting certificate from a community college and just kept working in my 20s. If you can't afford a 20% down payment on a $600k house after 10 years, you don't deserve to own a home.
Seriously?? What is wrong with people? Not sad that crazy landlord was killed by police. Our condolences to the family and friends of the young couple. Such unnecessary sadness for all.
The tenants wanted the landlord to do necessary repairs to the basement apartment. He had refused, so they took it to the city, which caused the landlord to snap. The young couple were engaged to be married, both working , said to be quiet, and paid their rent on time. Tragic what happened over repairs! Heartbreaking for their families.
Why you still have no names it's been a day !!;you guys never finish a news and continue on it or you never ever have any information to give us and you're asking the public to help 😅
Too bad the landlord was killed. He should have gone to prison for the rest of his life and the only real estate he would have had to worry about was the general area around his anus.
The fault lies with govt and Ontario Tenant Board. They do not have a quick and legal way to resolve disputes, no wonder people are taking the law into their own hands. This will lead to third-world type anarchy.
@@earlgreystoke3324 Over thinking without information is just wild speculation. Within moments people presumed bad tenants. They didn’t yet have the information whether the victims were the landlord(s) or tenant(s). Now others in this comment section presuming unpaid rent (like that justified murder somehow). Police state that the tenants were not criminal to the best of their knowledge. Perhaps we’ll learn more about why the landlord was visiting with guns. Perhaps we’ll learn about communications between them before the killings. Now we do know the landlord was the killer, perhaps a psychiatric history, character witnesses.
The tenants were working, the woman was an EA at a local school and the man an electrician. It seems to be a dispute over asking him to repair his overpriced shithole - not over rent.
The man executed these two Canadians. Big man with a gun is now a monster with gun. How do monsters get to keep guns legally. Hope the families get every last dime of the monster.
Who are you to judge anyone? What do you have against big men? Were you hurt by them in your childhood? You sound like a sucker on govt welfare only thinking about money.
people turn against one another over money or property. weapons are being supplied by the big companies marketed as self-defense tools. young lifes snuffed out in a moment of rage. neighbours and police shocked. life continues. business as usual.
@@1nicko29 Guns actually aren't really marketed to the public here at all. In fact most people tremble at the sight of a gun. Yet if I pull out my hammer, which could off just as many people, no one gives it a second thought. A tool is a tool is a tool. All depends who is using it.
@@livestock9722 the whole american continent all the way down to Chile and argentinia has a massive gun problem. the killing-rate is off the charts now since the pandemic. guess who is using guns. ordinary people in a moment of rage, fear, hate or desperation! meanwhile in countries where it is much more difficult to obtain a firearm violent crimes are also on the raise but victims much more often can walk away from the insidents alive.
It is government fault. They made laws that makes landlord helpless, unprotected from liars and crooks. Poor guy, landlord. This couple probably didn't pay to him and may be laughed at him, refused to leave. Landlord will never kick out good tenants. Also question: where were their parents? Why kids 20 years old didn't have where to live? This is another problem of Canada: parents and kids far away from each other.
You can't blame the government. This individual made a choice. It's not the government's fault. These two kids are dead because they were shot by the landlord plain and simple. He made a choice. Are you Canadian by the way? It seems that I'm seeing a lot of Canadians not looking at the problems that are actually occurring and blaming the source as the blaming something else.
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You'd think this was the USA.
Canada has turned into America
Nah, just business as usual in Hamilton.
Toronto is the same, but more drive-by boom booming.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 you don't seem to know what you are talking about. Stop being a little drama queen
I did! When I saw a caption which read "young Canadian couple", I immediately assumed they were on vacation in the US. Careful, Canada; remain the quiet, sane neighbours to the North.
@@lynneleeluckdowsing6654 Maybe we're watching too much American TV, seeing killings are a every hour thing.
The world is just growing more insane.
No, just landlords, house flipper's, housing speculator's and "investors" and people with mortgages.
no it's not..
Just the west ran by liberals
It's the same or even better. Just that there is faster exchange of news and information now. So much so that there's information overload.
@@JohnDoe-xv1se haha butthurt because you're a life long renter well blame the government for letting in all the foreign buyers.
How sad I can’t even imagine why this would happen. Prayers for the families of the young couple.
This isnt sad. It never is you people enjoy this. You love murder.
The issues escalated from repairs needing to be done in the young couple's apartment.
Apparently, they reported the problem to the city as nothing was fixed, the report caused the landlord to snap.
Tragic, 3 lives gone and many others forever ruined, all over a reportedly bad landlord, and unsatisfied tenants.
Perhaps we'll never know the full story, as all concerned are deceased.
I feel so sad and sorry for the victim's families.
@@margaretr5701 thank you for that info. Very sad because you are right all three had loved ones I’m sure left behind. It’s the landlords job to keep their place up if someone is paying every month on time. . So very sad . 🙏
we live in a world where people are fed up with bullshit, and people are thin skin, you cannot say anything anymore , people are getting layoff with Email and there less and less Human interaction, why do you think So Stephanie ??? more and more people have anxiety and depression and were in a Post Covid and let me tell you it only the beginning and here it only the peak of the iceberg what we see on the news
Sounds like he was crazy the neighbours said he was creepy used to stand on the roof and stare at them. Those poor young people that had their whole lives ahead of them. Sad thst we have such insane people in the world. Unhinged
Anyone trying to find any tiny reason to defend the landlord should be on the government watch list. Particularly if they are a landlord themselves - nothing justifies publicly executing people on the lawn and street. The neighbours were forced to witness this act of inhumanity too. Hope he rots in hell
You don’t know the circumstances yet you defend the dead? Maybe let the police investigate.
@@Sophie-and-Ken ua-cam.com/video/vzDE49v1Ytc/v-deo.html this video from local CHCH in Hamilton directly quotes the police who say the tenants are innocent and it was over health concerns due to the state of the unit.
Nice try defending a scumbag murderer though, I hope you don’t have guns.
Lol yall need Jesus, at the end of the day violence is never the answer so both parties are a lost
😂 Oh cry me a river. Let God sort it out.
I have basement tenants. Lovely family. The guy mows my lawn and cleans the snow whenever I'm away. So whenever he has a request, I am happy to help. It's simple mutual respect
so tragic my sympathy to their family and friends
Municipalities need to start licensing landlords like they do other businesses (taxis, restaurants etc), ensuring they have knowledge of the laws pertaining to Residential Tenancy and are paying their taxes to CRA. My condolences to all those affected, R.I.P.
Hmm not sure how that's relevant here. You think this guy believed that shooting his tenants over a dispute was possibly legal??
This is one of those good ideas that would be a disaster if implemented - it is rife with unintended consequences.
So we do this test with all the landlords... and some fail. Well then what? They can't have tenants so now we have to kick the tenants that were living under these landlords out and they just lost their place to live. Even in the case of running the test only on new landlords... some fail and now we have less rental space then we would have had otherwise. It is a good idea if your in region that has a reasonably high vacancy rate - where landlords compete with each other in order to get tenants - but in the ultra tight housing market of southern Ontario the cure is worse then the disease.
@@JeremyMacDonald1973 not some of them will fail, most of them will fail. That's if they are even in Canada and actually speak English...
We need psychiatric assessments, sexual orientation and criminal records for both landlord and tenants before a lease is signed!
@@kuruptzZz Someone mentioned the Property Standards. My sense is that some units don't start out legal, the landlord doesn't fix, the tenant gets educated on the law and brings in property standards resulting in an all out war.
Clearly the problem here was the landlord. You solve problems legally not with a gun.
Do you know that there are practically no legal recourse for land lords in Ontario. I am still waiting for action on paperwork that I filed in August 2022. No govt offices were working on site under the excuse of covid. No one answers the phones. It is all a scam. All the laws are biased against the landlords. That is why renters are emboldened to not pay rent and just be squatters.
@@PunjabiGhazal
1- all govt offices and courts are open. I was just at Service Canada the other day and also went to Service Ontario for a Health Card. No issues at either level of govt. In and out in less than 20 minutes. Wtf are you babbling on about?
2- it doesn't matter what your problem is. If you think murdering two people is the solution to a problem then you are one sick twisted fu$ck.
3- this wasn't about rent. It was about the living conditions of the house. If the renters didn't like the condition they were living in then it is a free country they could have left.
I agree big man I agree
Do you have any idea the pains landlords have to go through to evict deadbeat tenants? The law mostly protects tenants in Ontario, I've watched endless nightmare tenant stories in the media since the pandemic, I've lost count!
More mortgage defaults, more rent defaults and more unfortunate events on the horizon. This is just the beginning.
So true!
I have crazy landlord. I dont feel safe now. But I pay three days a head. I hope that will safe me.
consider so many squatter or troublesome tenants around, No need to pay 3 days ahead, pay on the last day of the month and always do righteous behavior; don't do 2 tons of laundry every other day, always switch off lights when going out for long period of hours, less visitors every day, no overnight visitors; assumme you have a good landlord, your landlord won't even increase your rent next term and he will beg you to stay! TRUST ME!
It will save you. Notice they are not saying how many months they were behind in paying.
@shahonchen6661 I live in a house. Most of the things don't apply but I am not naive enough to think all tenants are good.
sadly they are all like that, there is no regulations to control their greed.
This is insane for Canada!!!!! Wth? We would like follow up on this please. Did this guy have a permit, what involves clearing conditions for a permit (I know it's pretty strict) and what was wrong with him that he shot two people, his own renters? Did he have mental health issues like depression, extreme anger issues? He had something.
The only thing we know about the landlord was male, 57 years-old, lived upstairs and guns were legal. No word yet on a psychiatric condition. Perhaps we’ll learn more from his girlfriend who lived with him, she might shed light on what provoked him.
A permit doesnt require a psych assessment usually
Immediately assuming there's a psychiatric condition is unfair to the hundreds of thousands of people struggling with mental issues and are no threat to anyone. This could very simply be that the landlord was going through something personal (divorce or whatever) and this argument with tenants pushed him past his limits.
Mentally Ill people are more likely to be the subject of violence than to be violent themselves and to immediately jump to that as the cause is to cater to the worst part of human biases.
Earier I heard the argument was because of the state of their space they were living in and renting.
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 Less likely then police themselves.
Government caused this problem by artificialy creating housing shortage .
And by letting in every Chi-Com clown with millions of dollars.
@projektkobra2247 - Your *racism* is showing.
Why aren’t there ANY pictures of the landlord ANYWHERE?
@basedokie7272 - What does it matter to you? Two months later are you satisfied?
So pay your rent people, the Landlords are going crazy
@Brendan New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
it wasn't about rent. It was about the condition of the house.
Horrible! 😢
The police do not take lanlord tenant issues seriously! They are too quick to just say its a landlord tenant issue my heart goes out to the families
We'll probably never know what caused it because they're all dead. So sad.
It was not rent they always paid the rent on time
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
it was issues over problems with the house.
The landlord’s girlfriend lived upstair with him. If it was important authorities probably could get more details from her.
Landlords in Canada are so greedy and always committing crimes to steal money illegally from tenants, making up bogus fees etc.
Senseless
Truly innocent as in probably refused to pay rent for a year, destroyed the place and called therfore department to say it was unsafe to cause trouble........
Landlord and tenant board should be accountable and law makers are responsible for 3 deaths. Law should should be treated fare not in tenant favor nor Landlord . Landlord Tennant board faver to tenant then this type of results comes out.
We are in a cruel world …
you have the option to leave it.
And it's going to get even worse, I'm afraid.
@mariamaba9220 - That's a fatalistic generalization.
@@wholeshebang1 It's a true summation of what is happening in most of the world, but if you want to ignore it, that's up to you.
They were killed by a psychopath clearly. Him being a landlord is irrelevant.
Presumably, yes.
DR. Bernard Salisbury, thank you!
If you don't want the home that you're renting. Move. Arguing the landlord is a no-no your life is more precious than the house
That sounds like a warning for avoiding criminals... You implying landlords are like criminals????
So true! If you think your landlord is creepy or your landlord says they want their property vacated, it might be wise to leave. And if you're unable to pay or run into hard times, try and negotiate in a cordial manner, don't start throwing around tenancy protection laws, yada yada.... It's a not win situation this, how so tragic!
@@fenix-rv7tp Not all landlords are criminals, but some definitely are. Like Michael Klein who owns Family Properties
Tbh, it’s very unfair for the current law between tenant and landlord in Ontario. For example, it’s really hard to evict a tenant who don’t pay rents, usually the waiting time for LTB to start hearing will be almost 1year, so it means the landlord have to let the tenant stay until the result comes out. Obviously governments transfer their responsibilities to the landlord, to enhance conflicts between tenants and landlord. And it makes good tenants in a passive situation as well, because landlord knows how unfair the current law is, will definitely ask for more before signing the contract.
@@bear-ew7jg no, I get what you are saying, and this might be the case in a good landlord, bad tenant. But is the law fair when the role is reversed? When it’s a bad landlord, good tenant situation?
Tenants in canada, they thought they're invincible.
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
Exactly, Tenant board does nothing for landlords to recover unpaid rents.
Very sad 3 lives gone for possibly non sense dispute.
This is due to the conditions the federal and provincial government have created.
And the globally renowned pro-criminal moronic Canadian judges!
Probably did not pay Rent, landlord feels upset and built up his temper. The government needs to change the landlord and tenant board system, allow Landlords to collect rent
I'm guessing the landlord couldn't keep up with repayments, and the couple weren't paying the rent,
*Wrong* - how quick you are to *victim-blame.* The couple were up-to-date on rent. They'd raised concerns about mold in their basement apartment that the landlord did not address. They eventually got an order for the landlord to repair, and on the day it was issued, he shot the couple *in the back,* as they *fled,* on the front lawn. The landlord then barricaded himself in his house and there was a *stand-off* with police, who shot and killed him.
Awful. My prayers to all involved. Hyper Inflation, homelessness everywhere, foodbank usage highest ever. Crime on the rise. Bad roads, Empty bike lanes everywhere causing congestion on the roads everywhere. Red light cameras, speed cameras alot of ill will between people because of the pandemic nobody trusts anyone anymore. Im surprised this isnt happening all the time.
Bike lanes causing traffic………. Yeah not a thing
@@mswiftley1558 Weird, eh? Last time I looked it was excessive motor vehicles that caused traffic congestion.
@@CarFreeSegnitz the fact that two people are dead and your more concerned about bike lanes says everything.
@@mswiftley1558 the fact that two people are dead and your defending bike lanes says everything.
@vinrico4704 - *You* brought up *bike lanes* - and they likely commented on it because (like me) they thought it was a *ridiculous reason* to attribute to current _societal unrest._ I've been a *year-round cyclist* in Toronto (even during rain and snowstorms) for over 35 years - way before _any bike lanes_ - and there's *always* been traffic on *arterial roads* and *highways* (FYI - Dundas Street E & W is a *highway)* - and it's caused by *_poor road instructure_* that prioritized cars, SUVs and trucks, but not considering *Vulnerable Road Users* (VRUs), like *_pedestrians, wheelchair/mobility device users,_* *cyclists,* and now _e-bikes, e-scooters_ and other _micro-mobility e-riders._
As for whining about so-called "empty bike lanes," you've heard the phrase "Build it and they will come;" it takes time for people to adjust to new things, and *installing safe bike lanes* that *protect* cyclists & e-riders (i.e. more than simply painted lines on roads) encourages them to try them. There's been a big increase in people riding bicycles and using bike lanes, especially since the pandemic, when many who worked in essential services started cycling to and from work to avoid public transit, then continued to, post-pandemic.
Cycle Toronto, the city's largest cycling advocate organization that works with the city in an advisory capacity, has done studies and bicycle counts that support the increase in cyclists over the past 20-odd years, and especially since *Vision Zero* (for safe streets & reduced fatalities of VRUs) was implemented.
Heartbreaking and sad..... condolences to their families. Glad the shooter is dead though because he gave up his right to live after taking away 2 innocent lives regardless of the rationale
How do you know they were innocent?
@@dgeneral6048 He shot 2 unarmed people, that is not the act of an innocent man.
@@otakunthevegan4206 who died an leave you as judge ?.
@@dgeneral6048 the cops did say so 🤔
Maybe you should get your head checked if you're glad people died.
Tenant looks like giving hard time to Landlord. Therefore probably took that action he should not. Landlord was living there for long time neighbors didn't complain tenant must gave Landlord hard time now result is there.
About a month ago landlord and tennant went at it in Jamaica one person end up dead the other in the hospital.. I think it was the landlord that was stabbed... I will not be renting my basement. When they come its all peaceful and suddenly your safe spot your home gets turned into something else.. Drinking parties ... friends over constantly..... all of a sudden a whole lot of people know your address.. Its not worth it. Just make do.
Yes, it had happened to me that some of my basement tenants did exactly the same; the lease contract was for 2 persons but ended up with 4 or 5, and not much noise but tons of laundry every other day, then people in & out after 3 or 5 a.m !
Lol.. rent it to Asian people.. they are good tenants
@@Asiandramas99 True, at least 50% Caucasians tenant are VERY troublesome peoples; ALL Chinese landlords in GTA know about this fact!
Yeah but remember if you live in Toronto they bring in a socialist tax last February called occupancy tax it is very deadly because my understanding is that the government (Tory) thought it would be a good idea to find out how many people live on your home and see many free room you have left so they can subject landlord (guilty) into renting to help homeless ( Canada Sercertly telling us your house is to be shared) with this tax... Torontians be very careful who you vote for ( no Oliver) for sure she seems to have her eyes on increasing this tax..... yeah, I am no politician, but Matlow, I believe, would be the best (tester )for mayor's...... of Toronto ...........
@@Asiandramas99 cause there nerds
It's a tragedy 😢 for both sides of families, cause no one problem, small or big, worth the life of 3 people. I'm pretty sure, it was lots of possibilities to fix it.
Unfortunately now is too late.😢
This does not make any sense at all.
There are a lots of questions to be asked here and yet not answer or detail information: 1. What are the description of both lanlord and tenants, 2. Is the firearm legally registered, 3. What are the neighbors' comments on this landlord and tenant?
The local news said the firearms were legally owned. The tenants were an EA at a local school and an electrician who were both working and the dispute was over the slum lord not repairing the unit where they had to go through the city which caused him to snap.
The neighbours describe all parties as quiet people and they had no idea this was coming, they also didn’t know the guy owned guns.
Landlord was male, 57 years-old, lived upstairs in the same house with his girlfriend. His gun was legal.
What questions. It's long over. No threat to you
You can always get a firearms if you have a good friend who is over 60 years old and had worked as a farm hands in his early years or as a current amateur hunter; in region like Yukon, getting a firearm ( rifle ) is as easy as going to WALmart to get some vegetables!
@@shahonchen6661 that's the most Libtarded thing I've ever read
What's engaged have to do with it. Are they different people because they were engaged. Strange headline
That is to garner some sympathy for them and hatered for the landlord. It would perhaps garner more points if the engaged couple were LGBTQ++ so that more labels could be placed on the land lord. These so called reporters are more pathetic than pimps on the street.
if they didn't say engaged then the comment section would be filled with people asking what their status is. Can't win either way.
Lord!!! People are losing their minds!!!
GTA area landlords and renters having a class war now
Seems like a crazy drunk landlord on a Saturday night leading to tragedy.
Maybe he was a narcissist.
@@RobShuttleworth Man s hut up - you know nothing about narcissistic personality disorder and if cluster B more likely antisocial/sociopath.
"Muh narc - maYbe hE wuz a NarCissIsT!" - stop throwing that word around like a bitter soccer mom.
I m not surprised the the suspect drove a Dodge Ram.
Thank god police wear body cams, protects them, protects the public and also gives us GREAT content!
Except when they turn them off..which should be illegal, impossible, and cause for instant dismissal.
Thats a bad landlord.
top most dangerous cities in Canada ( according to statistics Canada in 2022-23 : #1 Surrey( Vancouver ) , #2 Brampton, Hamilton, London, Oshawa , Ste-Catherines , , Kelowna, Nanaimo , Kamloops, Red Deer, Lethbridge
I thought Canada is a peaceful safe country.
Which media-proof monastery are you living at?
it is. You are just being a little drama queen
@@shahonchen6661 lol
There's no peace in tax land hunnay
Yikes ... that house is going to be haunted af
Why move into a house that u can't afford it.
That is my assumption too...then hoping the Tenancy Board would protect them!
What is the background story here???? Someone doesn't just shoot their tenets for no reason.
New information has emerged about the fatal shooting of an engaged couple fleeing their landlord after a dispute near Hamilton, Ont.--On Saturday, the couple was shot dead after they attempted to flee the residence from their 57-year-old landlord who had barricaded himself in the house with multiple guns registered in his name.
@@noelphillip5012 I want to find out what caused the man to flop his ish. Did he flip his ish because of the couple.
I bet 99% that they did not pay their rent or maybe they refused to vacate the unit. I do not see any other reason as to why a landlord would shoot his tenants.
Poor landlord having to deal with crap tenants feel bad.
Anytime they don't give any information about the participants, I get suspicious about what they are hiding.
If the police haven't released anything while they investigate, how can they give any information? They're not Faux News, and just make something up for ratings.
Trudeau's Canada....very sunny!
Two sides to every story.
Was the shooter right in this?
Not at all.
But you don't go off the deep end like that for no reason.
There are an overabundance of bad renters and they can make home owners lives absolute living hells.
Time will tell and hopefully a vlear story comes out of this all in the very least.
you are so right!
@alna2530- The basement apartment tenants had raised concerns about mold in their unit, that the landlord did not address. They filed a report with the city, and on the day he was served the repair order, he shot the two in the back on the front lawn as they fled.
The world is turning into a dumpster fire
Only gona get worse
What a great country canada has become, people are literally dying to rent a tiny shoe box where they can live because they have no other choice.
I bet you those people needed to do a criminal background check to rent the place but none cares if the landlord is a gun owner
Usually only a *credit check* & *previous landlord contact* are required, _not_ a criminal background/record check.
The landlord got his instant justice! 😮
HOW ABOUT YOU GUYS TELL US WHO THEY ACTUALLY ARE?
why? Aside from jerking off what would you do with that info?
What is wrong with the people of this world. I visited Hamilton many times and thought it was very nice place to live. I think it is still a nice place to live. People are just crazy.
It was never a nice place, its out if control with drug problems
@@heshamhelal My first visit started in 1990 into early 2000. It was then. My last visit was 2014
@@christinehinds8314 ya now its dreadful hence the cheap rent
Landlords have to be more controllled by the government, this is unimaginable.
Yes, killing your tenants use be made illegal immediately! Also look up what happens if tenets don’t pay or refuse to leave your bed and breakfast and tell me how much more control over landlord is needed.
no! gun owners have to be more controlled by the government.
@@Sophie-and-Ken landlords shouldnt have the power to shoot their tenants no matter the excuse.
paaabI0: You didn't understand the system. The government stands for the interest of the landlords. That is why The Landlords increase rent as They want
@@terefefeyssa877 er no.landlords cannot increase the rent by any amount.
Journée normale en ontario.
Is this really a big surprise to everyone I could have sworn that it was commonly known that Hamilton landlords are the worst landlords in the country.
I swear I thought everybody already knew that.....
Landlords all across the country have had it easy for at least the last 10 years. The real estate market has been inflating all over. Rentals have been unreasonable for about as long.
Gov’t needs to get back to building public housing. They used to up until about 30 years ago. But then neo liberal economics took over… “let the markets take care of it”. Since then building hasn’t kept pace with population growth. Now we have a wicked problem wherein institutional investors are heavy with real estate. When the bubble bursts a bunch of pension plans are going to suffer. I don’t care about property management businesses, they’ve had it too good for too long.
Then Hamilton must have tons of worse squatters!
@@CarFreeSegnitz A lot of it boils down to personal decisions. I'm 29 and have a house in North Vancouver, and I got it because I was willing to settle for a house in Agassiz for a few years (house was 500k). It basically doubled and now I have a decent home. The majority of people are very bad with finances, which is why most young people can't get a house. I have a 1 year accounting certificate from a community college and just kept working in my 20s. If you can't afford a 20% down payment on a $600k house after 10 years, you don't deserve to own a home.
@@James-eq8cq
good for you, "James A***ole"
Whatever the reason it wasnt worth it. Now they all dead. Hes the owner if there was a issue he should have asked them to leave his property.
Use to have rental unit if you are not strong minded or can't deal with stress just sell it
Should of paid your rent
You must own a gun to protect yourself from ppl who have guns
Welcome to Justin Trudeau's Canada people. You are going to see this happening way more in the future the way this is going..god help Canada 🙏🇨🇦
This planet needs a reset in my opinion we humans are nothing but a virus I feel sorry for the animals RIP for the victims
you go first....start the reset.
pay your rent and this won't happen
this wasn't about rent. It was about the living conditions of the house
@@pacman3556 Then the tenant should have simply left before things got out of control, was it worth their lives!
@@kimmykero2421 I agree. If they don't like the place nobody is forcing them to stay. They could pack up and go somewhere that meets their demands.
Everything expensive
i wish i was there id sue for mental distress
Seriously?? What is wrong with people? Not sad that crazy landlord was killed by police. Our condolences to the family and friends of the young couple. Such unnecessary sadness for all.
Can someone tell me if Ontario has similar landlord / Tennant rules similar to NY
This is insane. Very sad. There should be stricter control for guns. The live's of the parents of the couple is destroyed.
Dumb comment. But thanks.
They probably made some kind of under the table deal that the tenants didn't honor.
So unusual for Canada
Well, there goes my idea of renting and not paying up
what is the real issue?? Did tenants not pay rent or the landlord was a psycho? There must be some reason...
They probably refused to pay their rent, and the rest is story ...
The landlord was acting on his own "free will" because this event took place in Canada. What was the Landlord's motive?
@Adora Tsang They didn't specify what the exact issues were with respect to the house. There was no clarification.
@Sonomacats Well, he certainly is having a good long one now!
The tenants wanted the landlord to do necessary repairs to the basement apartment.
He had refused, so they took it to the city, which caused the landlord to snap.
The young couple were engaged to be married, both working , said to be quiet, and paid their rent on time.
Tragic what happened over repairs!
Heartbreaking for their families.
It's like the USA
Is the house safe to rent yet?
Why you still have no names it's been a day !!;you guys never finish a news and continue on it or you never ever have any information to give us and you're asking the public to help 😅
Scary. Where did they get the guns ? My condolences
Bottom line money is the root of all evil!!!
I will help you become a saint....give me your money.
Too bad the landlord was killed. He should have gone to prison for the rest of his life and the only real estate he would have had to worry about was the general area around his anus.
The fault lies with govt and Ontario Tenant Board. They do not have a quick and legal way to resolve disputes, no wonder people are taking the law into their own hands. This will lead to third-world type anarchy.
Oh my an engaged couple wow that really factors into the outrage 🤡
An unnecessary detail for most.
Is this place for rent?
Lol
@@leonaj.732 LOL
What was the dispute? Who are the people involved? What happened to objective, fact based investigative reporting at the CBC?
You're over thinking. Wait for more report.
@@bloodnwine Better to "over think" than under think...don't you think?
@@earlgreystoke3324 Over thinking without information is just wild speculation. Within moments people presumed bad tenants. They didn’t yet have the information whether the victims were the landlord(s) or tenant(s). Now others in this comment section presuming unpaid rent (like that justified murder somehow).
Police state that the tenants were not criminal to the best of their knowledge.
Perhaps we’ll learn more about why the landlord was visiting with guns. Perhaps we’ll learn about communications between them before the killings. Now we do know the landlord was the killer, perhaps a psychiatric history, character witnesses.
The tenants were working, the woman was an EA at a local school and the man an electrician. It seems to be a dispute over asking him to repair his overpriced shithole - not over rent.
@@CarFreeSegnitz Since when is asking questions considered "over thinking"?
Tax tax tax it's why happened,no money to pay the Rent 😮
Damn
The world is insane🔫🔫🔫🔫🔪🥜🥜🥜
no its not. You are just a little drama queen.
wtf do you expect. Doug ford destroyed the LTB so tenants live with no rules. They just do whatever they want.
Pay your rent!
The man executed these two Canadians. Big man with a gun is now a monster with gun. How do monsters get to keep guns legally. Hope the families get every last dime of the monster.
You're rushing to judgment without any facts. Glad you're not a real judge.
@@whiskeytango5680 he's just ignorant
Who are you to judge anyone? What do you have against big men? Were you hurt by them in your childhood? You sound like a sucker on govt welfare only thinking about money.
Tf! I live in Hamilton
JOHN NORTH OR SOUTH
@@jamessunstrum2459 mountain
I don't live in Hamilton....what a strange small world we live in.
How can they not release the murderous landlord's name? I'm suspecting it's probably because he's Jewish. 💀
people turn against one another over money or property. weapons are being supplied by the big companies marketed as self-defense tools. young lifes snuffed out in a moment of rage. neighbours and police shocked. life continues. business as usual.
Ah, it's in Canada. You have zero right to defend yourself.
@@livestock9722 than they probably market guns as hunting equipment there. sorry for the mistake.
@@1nicko29 Guns actually aren't really marketed to the public here at all. In fact most people tremble at the sight of a gun. Yet if I pull out my hammer, which could off just as many people, no one gives it a second thought. A tool is a tool is a tool. All depends who is using it.
@@livestock9722 the whole american continent all the way down to Chile and argentinia has a massive gun problem. the killing-rate is off the charts now since the pandemic. guess who is using guns. ordinary people in a moment of rage, fear, hate or desperation! meanwhile in countries where it is much more difficult to obtain a firearm violent crimes are also on the raise but victims much more often can walk away from the insidents alive.
Pretty sure that's a gray alien.
This is just start
no it's not. Stop being a little drama queen.
It is government fault. They made laws that makes landlord helpless, unprotected from liars and crooks. Poor guy, landlord. This couple probably didn't pay to him and may be laughed at him, refused to leave. Landlord will never kick out good tenants. Also question: where were their parents? Why kids 20 years old didn't have where to live? This is another problem of Canada: parents and kids far away from each other.
You can't blame the government. This individual made a choice. It's not the government's fault. These two kids are dead because they were shot by the landlord plain and simple. He made a choice. Are you Canadian by the way? It seems that I'm seeing a lot of Canadians not looking at the problems that are actually occurring and blaming the source as the blaming something else.