I love watching these chemical dip videos because the dip exposes the scars from the car's past and sets the table for the rest of the car's life via the restoration it is about to go through.
When I saw it was a 356, I knew it would take multiple soaks. I removed 80 pounds of that sound deadening years ago from a Super 90 coupe (by hand 😩). Surprised there was that much car left after treatment - these became lightweight racers all on their own 😁
As a man who loves old cars & has worked on them for most of my adult life; I have tremendous respect for the work you do. I got nauseous when I saw the patch work on that drivers side fender… that was probably a pleasant surprise.
Boy, wish I could’ve started that way with the 67’ Camaro I built from the ground up when I was a teenager. Bought it in 76, no engine or tranny, rusted out like crazy. But I finally got it on the road after 4 years of scraping together money for every part, and endless hours in our garage. 350 LT1, Turbo 400 tranny, 3.51 posi rear end, yellow with back stripe around the hideaway RS grille. Wasn’t perfect but the experience was worth every penny.
I'm a body man and I have to say what's nice is to know that these cars are going to go and be repaired back to mint condition cuz when you go do this much work you go all the way. Awesome job I wish I was there I love doing that my OCD is ridiculous LOL
I've got 40yrs as body man and can say I've seen the results of trapped acid between all pinch welds and cavities the pressure washer won't reach and all protection is gone with acid residue left with bare metal only to rust and corrode further I've seen it leach out of the fender pinch welds and creep under paint job TOTALLY ruins the car That Porsche had great factory undercoating and was dipped in paint after assembly from factory so you basically ruined the car for long term VERY SAD to see
@@drifter9425 it's all in the after work. I already thought of that and I would have a hot beeswax that I would spray in there and not worry about it. But I'm sure you knew that after forty years of Auto body. Body man are all different
@@drifter9425 Yeah you are correct. They may be able to sell it on at a profit, but 5 or 10 years down the line when the "guarantees" have run out, the rust can creep out from the depths of the seams fuelled by all the chemicals and acid left in there. Factory underseal and treatment in the crevices destroyed by this acid dip. 10 years down the line some poor customer is going to have to pick up the tab. When cars are too far gone with deep rust, far better to remove parts and sell those, chop up the body shell and weigh in the scrap. It's much fairer on people down the line who will pay good money for a rust time bomb.
@@drifter9425 it's been neutralized in the next bath so there shouldn't be any acid left anywhere. I don't know about the neutralizing bath though, since it seems they might use the same alcali bath than the paint removal it might attack any paint or primer they put on afterwards.
@@pbe6965 Even if all the acid is gone there is bare metal between every pinch weld and subframe cavities lots of which cannot be reached to coat with anything. Unless you can dip the car in paint like the factory does it's way better to blast with walnut shells....soda blasting has it's issues too
@@tonybino01 I’ve had several Fisher body cars over the years but my favorite was my 71’ Chevelle wagon. You could get 5 full-size guys, 3 dogs, a dozen or so rifles, lunch, and enough ammo to last a week in that thing with room to spare. Of course I put a big block in it and it got terrible gas mileage but I dare say it was the best car I ever owned.
@@franic_scopes9165 I have been thinking it would be great to have a late 60’s Chevelle Wagon. Perfect size. Drop an LS in it and go for good mileage. Totally reliable.
I like this channel, it is the absolute radical rust corrosion exterminator. Last week i dipped my motorcycle air filter box in muriatic acid, excellent result.
with dipping, doesn't dipping acid remain in all closed seams? Residual acid is not possible to fully remove and will eventually eat through metal in closed seams as in rain gutter , front trunk margins, engine trunk areas, etc. My question is based from bitter experience of a rare "acid dipped" 356 Porsche.
Idk but on the 2nd video, an engine block, they showed how they neutralize it and dip it in rust inhibitor before sending it to the customer. I guess its all a question if you want to have a proper restauration or a cheap one that looks good on the surface
That poor thing has led a rough life. It's in desperate need of a body man who's not heavily reliant on Bondo. I think if it was me I would nickname that car Patchwork 😄
Wow! It really is amazing how all of djunk comes off of these cars. It sure is dirty. I'm from Berlin, Germany and I saw a new system from some guy in Holland that bakes the car. Really interesting. You should check it out. Good job. What a mess.😊
I love all the " I have been a body shop owner for 327 years. The acid will leak out onto your paint job" comments. I think if you go to all the trouble to dip and then neutralize a car. There is a good chance they will take the time to properly refinish it. Is there a way to dip the car in primer?
How often do those tanks get drained and refilled? Or do they get filtered and topped off? What's the largest vehicle you can accommodate? Oh and what was that red stuff that looked like blood that showed up during the spraying?
We can spike them so the one big alkaline tank was going strong for about 4 years. Acid lasts about two to three years. 17.5’x6.5’. The color comes from the neutralization of the acid. Kinda turns a rust color
Why? Everything can be seen, crystal clear. And he was nice enough to upload it. What difference does it make? I didn't reply to give you a hard time. Just wondering why you feel it's killing you.
Hi, I was wondering what happens with areas where the acid has done its job to loosen paint up, but the pressure washer has missed or can't get to, and can't be painted without the body being dipped in paint. I mean, half removed acic affected paint is still tucked away in those spots and will need to be thoroughly cleaned before anyone even thinks about priming or painting ? Won't those spots be a high-risk factor for future rust, especially if any acid is trapped in there? These questions just come to mind as i watch the dips and see the liquid getting into places I think the water blaster/paint gun would struggle. Otherwise, entertaining vids. 👍
No amateur would repair their Porsche that badly. You just wouldn't do it. But a cheap professional might. Because they just want your money. Definitely going this route with my next restoration project.
A lot of customers get them primer dipped or E coated afterwards. Others cut access to certain areas. Spray all cavities and seams with a rust converter that leaves a phosphate coating that protects the metal and is safe to paint over. Then epoxy prime and finish all spot welds and seams with cavity wax
Looks like the same patch repair on both front quarter panels. Interesting. Was the entire front clip damaged and replaced? Sh the mystery of old cars…
The area just in front of the doors on 356 Porsche's tend to rust badly. This area was heavily filled with lead from the factory and once it rusted through "body shops" did what you saw here - this wasn't quality workmanship...
We have a pit under the washbay that’s separate from our sewer drainage. The runoff is collected there. We then pump it out into evaporation tanks that have heat exchangers to evaporate all the water out of it. What’s left is a neutral sludge. We then pay a company who specializes in chemical waste disposal to dispose of it properly for us.
Im waaaay more thorough off camera. My camera gets soaked and it gets super foggy in the shop when I hit the underside. Doesn’t make for as good of a video. Lightings an issue too.
@@minute_of_dangle I thought after watching your videos that a guy that thorough would most likely blast those areas thanks for getting back to me I love the videos and will subscribe to you. I did body and paint work for 5 years and still do some for friends
Прошу прощения,но процедура аналогична смыванию косметики с потасканной жизнью дамы....да простит меня данный Порш! Он как раз таки хорошо сохранился,несмотря на солидный возраст.
Dostum, nekadar uğraşırsan uğraşsan bile faydası yok Sonuçta metal yorgunluğu diye bir şey var ve en ufak bir trafik kazasında teneke gibi parçalanacak
I love watching these chemical dip videos because the dip exposes the scars from the car's past and sets the table for the rest of the car's life via the restoration it is about to go through.
Watching these videos gets addictive...
I’m glad you enjoy them!
When I saw it was a 356, I knew it would take multiple soaks. I removed 80 pounds of that sound deadening years ago from a Super 90 coupe (by hand 😩). Surprised there was that much car left after treatment - these became lightweight racers all on their own 😁
As a man who loves old cars & has worked on them for most of my adult life; I have tremendous respect for the work you do. I got nauseous when I saw the patch work on that drivers side fender… that was probably a pleasant surprise.
Boy, wish I could’ve started that way with the 67’ Camaro I built from the ground up when I was a teenager. Bought it in 76, no engine or tranny, rusted out like crazy. But I finally got it on the road after 4 years of scraping together money for every part, and endless hours in our garage. 350 LT1, Turbo 400 tranny, 3.51 posi rear end, yellow with back stripe around the hideaway RS grille. Wasn’t perfect but the experience was worth every penny.
I'm a body man and I have to say what's nice is to know that these cars are going to go and be repaired back to mint condition cuz when you go do this much work you go all the way. Awesome job I wish I was there I love doing that my OCD is ridiculous LOL
I've got 40yrs as body man and can say I've seen the results of trapped acid between all pinch welds and cavities the pressure washer won't reach and all protection is gone with acid residue left with bare metal only to rust and corrode further I've seen it leach out of the fender pinch welds and creep under paint job
TOTALLY ruins the car
That Porsche had great factory undercoating and was dipped in paint after assembly from factory so you basically ruined the car for long term
VERY SAD to see
@@drifter9425 it's all in the after work. I already thought of that and I would have a hot beeswax that I would spray in there and not worry about it. But I'm sure you knew that after forty years of Auto body. Body man are all different
@@drifter9425 Yeah you are correct. They may be able to sell it on at a profit, but 5 or 10 years down the line when the "guarantees" have run out, the rust can creep out from the depths of the seams fuelled by all the chemicals and acid left in there. Factory underseal and treatment in the crevices destroyed by this acid dip. 10 years down the line some poor customer is going to have to pick up the tab.
When cars are too far gone with deep rust, far better to remove parts and sell those, chop up the body shell and weigh in the scrap.
It's much fairer on people down the line who will pay good money for a rust time bomb.
@@drifter9425 it's been neutralized in the next bath so there shouldn't be any acid left anywhere.
I don't know about the neutralizing bath though, since it seems they might use the same alcali bath than the paint removal it might attack any paint or primer they put on afterwards.
@@pbe6965
Even if all the acid is gone there is bare metal between every pinch weld and subframe cavities lots of which cannot be reached to coat with anything.
Unless you can dip the car in paint like the factory does it's way better to blast with walnut shells....soda blasting has it's issues too
This never gets old
Thanks!
This is the way to start fresh. Wish I could do my 69 Chevelle. And I know it’s history, having owned it since 1972.
Chevrolet cars are the best. I turn deaf when Ford fans disagree.
@@tonybino01 I’ve had several Fisher body cars over the years but my favorite was my 71’ Chevelle wagon. You could get 5 full-size guys, 3 dogs, a dozen or so rifles, lunch, and enough ammo to last a week in that thing with room to spare. Of course I put a big block in it and it got terrible gas mileage but I dare say it was the best car I ever owned.
@@franic_scopes9165 I have been thinking it would be great to have a late 60’s Chevelle Wagon. Perfect size. Drop an LS in it and go for good mileage. Totally reliable.
@@joelpierce3940 Chevelle wagons are great cars and I would absolutely recommend one but the only thing is finding one.
This ones really shows that a nice paint might hide a lot of s... Great job!
like they say , Putty and Paint Makes Pretty What Ain't !!
please do more dips as your videos are awesome, we need more dips so we can share. keep them coming.
"Not a lot going on here in the trunk area" he says to the engine bay... Lol
I like this channel, it is the absolute radical rust corrosion exterminator. Last week i dipped my motorcycle air filter box in muriatic acid, excellent result.
So addicted to watch the pressure washer doing its job.
I’m glad you enjoy it!
Why is this so satisfying to me
with dipping, doesn't dipping acid remain in all closed seams? Residual acid is not possible to fully remove and will eventually eat through metal in closed seams as in rain gutter , front trunk margins, engine trunk areas, etc. My question is based from bitter experience of a rare "acid dipped" 356 Porsche.
Idk but on the 2nd video, an engine block, they showed how they neutralize it and dip it in rust inhibitor before sending it to the customer. I guess its all a question if you want to have a proper restauration or a cheap one that looks good on the surface
Great Job
That poor thing has led a rough life. It's in desperate need of a body man who's not heavily reliant on Bondo. I think if it was me I would nickname that car Patchwork 😄
Lol
Jack Nicholson “Joker” reference 🫡
You have a satisfying job
Thank you! I enjoy it!
That body looks like its had lots of repairs in the past!
Definitely! It was pretty beat
These 356's are fragile - one bump and it really puts the hurt on them. Still one of my favorites though!
That car shell looks BEAT 😂
Wow! It really is amazing how all of djunk comes off of these cars. It sure is dirty. I'm from Berlin, Germany and I saw a new system from some guy in Holland that bakes the car. Really interesting. You should check it out. Good job. What a mess.😊
Satisfying
Beautiful car
Please do more longer videos like these 🙏🏾💯🙏🏾💯🙏🏾
How do you remove the chemical from between spot welded panels etc, and treat those areas to prevent rust?
Something I've always worried about
We have only Sandpaper , so we like to say ;
This Man are sooo leasy ;))
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I love all the " I have been a body shop owner for 327 years. The acid will leak out onto your paint job" comments. I think if you go to all the trouble to dip and then neutralize a car. There is a good chance they will take the time to properly refinish it. Is there a way to dip the car in primer?
Amazing what some Bondo and paint can hide. Cute little cars. Fun to drive. Flimsy and cheaply built.
Maybe I missed it but what chems is it being dipped in?
Dip doesn't dissolve the paint, rather it breaks bond with the steel, I I'm understanding this correctly, yes?
Is it true you'll turn into the Joker if you fall into one of these chemical baths? 😉😆
EXELENTE limpieza de extraer la pintura
How did you get in to this line of work? It’s really interesting.
Business close to his home…
I'm sure Jerry Seinfeld will watch this...
How often do those tanks get drained and refilled? Or do they get filtered and topped off? What's the largest vehicle you can accommodate? Oh and what was that red stuff that looked like blood that showed up during the spraying?
We can spike them so the one big alkaline tank was going strong for about 4 years. Acid lasts about two to three years. 17.5’x6.5’. The color comes from the neutralization of the acid. Kinda turns a rust color
The brief flash of red you saw was "spot putty" from previous body work 😉
Cool
Thanks
i get this goes on instagram too, but you're killing me with filming in portrait!!
Why? Everything can be seen, crystal clear. And he was nice enough to upload it. What difference does it make?
I didn't reply to give you a hard time. Just wondering why you feel it's killing you.
Go on you tube Dominic Chinea 356 he's doing, if you want to see rust.
Bro, make sure you wear a respirator. That steam contains the chemical as vapor...
Very very good, but what about the underside of the floor???
where are you located at? Would like to bring one
That moment of discovery when the paint comes off and the formerly hidden repair work patches start to show...
Impressionante muito bom 🇧🇷
Ah, today's meditation video has arrived.
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The Acid wash is for the true restoration,
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Hi, I was wondering what happens with areas where the acid has done its job to loosen paint up, but the pressure washer has missed or can't get to, and can't be painted without the body being dipped in paint.
I mean, half removed acic affected paint is still tucked away in those spots and will need to be thoroughly cleaned before anyone even thinks about priming or painting ?
Won't those spots be a high-risk factor for future rust, especially if any acid is trapped in there?
These questions just come to mind as i watch the dips and see the liquid getting into places I think the water blaster/paint gun would struggle.
Otherwise, entertaining vids. 👍
That's what the neutralizing soak is for. And remember, hidden spots likely didn't get painted from the factory either
Kinda like watching the paint dry in reverse.
A little more entertaining though I hope lol
I misread this as Chemical Dipping a plastic Porche. I was confused for a moment 😳
how would you protect the areas you cant get at from rusting once all paint has been removed eg inner sills ,inner wings etc ?????
Can this type of dipping be used to lighted the chassis/bodywork?
I find it hard to believe that it had original paint on when dipped. Look more like some modern water based paint.
There's a STORY behind that barely-welded repair, I kinda wish we could hear it...
Which chemical is used to remove paint ,
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What do you do when you have to deal with lead filler on the cars
Unfortunately we can’t remove the lead filler. Lead is to inert and our chemicals won’t go after it.
Hi, really enjoy the videos. How many tanks do you have? How many cars go though in a week? Thanks
So how long after the last acid dip before you can start applying the new paint? Does acid residue not affect the repainting process?
The acid is neutralized by dipping into a base (alkaline) solution. Otherwise, yes the primer and paint wouldn’t stand a chance.
are there any areas that you can not access that may trap the dip liquid? I have heard of this happening where you never get it fully dried out....
Surprised to see how it was patched together piece by piece.
How long between dips, and how long do you dip em?
Doesn't the acid eat away the rest of the car, that the water can not reach?
No amateur would repair their Porsche that badly. You just wouldn't do it. But a cheap professional might. Because they just want your money. Definitely going this route with my next restoration project.
What stop's it from rusting throughout all of them seams, where you can't get access to?
Definitely the way to go if you can coat those areas
A lot of customers get them primer dipped or E coated afterwards. Others cut access to certain areas. Spray all cavities and seams with a rust converter that leaves a phosphate coating that protects the metal and is safe to paint over. Then epoxy prime and finish all spot welds and seams with cavity wax
what kind of solutions are in the containers where the cars are immersed ???
심신이 정화되는 느낌…
If it didn’t have bracing it would just collapse how dangerous this would be on the road
Only pure accid ❓ other chemical is needed . Thanks 👍
Ugh after the first dip i was like "now let's dip it in something that dissolves it all"... :(
Not a straight panel on that thing. Makes me wonder how many bondo wagons with a Porsche badge are on the road. That thing is rough.
I wish my truck would fit in those tanks!
How big is it?
Looks like the same patch repair on both front quarter panels. Interesting. Was the entire front clip damaged and replaced? Sh the mystery of old cars…
I’m not sure. This is probably the 4th 356 I’ve done and every one has had awful patches and a ton of bondo in the same areas lol
@@minute_of_dangle interesting. Perhaps that’s “factory” for the late 50s early 60s Porsches.🤷🏻
The area just in front of the doors on 356 Porsche's tend to rust badly. This area was heavily filled with lead from the factory and once it rusted through "body shops" did what you saw here - this wasn't quality workmanship...
Great videos but they need to be done in landscape mode.
All newer videos will be. These were shot for the other platforms before I started UA-cam
What does this service cost?
3k
Does anyone do paint dipping?
Isn't that how the factory does it?
Or perhaps just primer.
Por quantos processos ele passa. E quanto tempo ele fica em cada tanque??
That is strange that there are all those holes drilled somewhat in a line in that one section in front ofvthe windshield.
I’m guessing they pulled out a significant dent there. Definitely in a weird area
Front end collision in the distant past. Cowl area "kinks" when these hit something 😱
No Karmann ghia?
Where does that floor drain drain to?
that's one pricey german tub
What mixture is in that Bath?
What the cost to do this car
3k
I have a 1957 Chevy 150 2 door sedan. Would it be same cost ?
Loves this stuff. New subscriber 👍🏻✌🏻
Местами даже кровь идёт=)
This car is like an onion. So many layers of paint, Bondo, ugly welds, plastic, rust, dirt, et al.
yes, and when you peel away the layers it makes you cry.
I bet I can do that with my hair dryeri🤯
Muito foda!
Show us the undercarriage in the next video 🙂
I’ll try lol it get super wet
@@minute_of_dangle I understand sir
Poor car was beat from one end to the other
Where does all the waste materials go?
We have a pit under the washbay that’s separate from our sewer drainage. The runoff is collected there. We then pump it out into evaporation tanks that have heat exchangers to evaporate all the water out of it. What’s left is a neutral sludge. We then pay a company who specializes in chemical waste disposal to dispose of it properly for us.
No hiding for the filler
I KNOW HOW TO MAKE DERUSTING AND PRETRATMENT CHEMICALS IF YOU HAVE JOB FOR ME PLEASE
Where are you located
Nanty glo Pennsylvania
I think you guys are doing a fantastic job but I haven't seen you blast the underside of the dash and bottom of the vehicle or the inside roof panels
Im waaaay more thorough off camera. My camera gets soaked and it gets super foggy in the shop when I hit the underside. Doesn’t make for as good of a video. Lightings an issue too.
@@minute_of_dangle I thought after watching your videos that a guy that thorough would most likely blast those areas thanks for getting back to me I love the videos and will subscribe to you. I did body and paint work for 5 years and still do some for friends
I was just going to ask that question myself I want to see how you do it ?
Прошу прощения,но процедура аналогична смыванию косметики с потасканной жизнью дамы....да простит меня данный Порш! Он как раз таки хорошо сохранился,несмотря на солидный возраст.
Dostum, nekadar uğraşırsan uğraşsan bile faydası yok
Sonuçta metal yorgunluğu diye bir şey var ve en ufak bir trafik kazasında teneke gibi parçalanacak
Might as well go buy a new one lol
Another one gets a bath...
like the rest
You missed abit
И что делать с этим гнилые кузовом?
Older Porsches were known for a lot of inner structure rust out. A glorified VW in my book. A lot of work to make right. 😵