Lauren Southern Twitter Argument BLOWS UP Into Heated Debate

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  • DEBATE: Destiny and Lauren Southern debate AOC and the Jan 6 incident...
    Date: 11 Jun, 2022
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  • @hardivpatel5203
    @hardivpatel5203 2 роки тому +223

    "32? Shes a child to me"- Steven Bonell III , 33

    • @grantwithers
      @grantwithers 2 роки тому +6

      I was wondering if he was like 40 or what lol

    • @SuperSpectrom
      @SuperSpectrom 2 роки тому +4

      this woman arc is going swimmingly

    • @markray6113
      @markray6113 2 роки тому

      Man must be part Italian

    • @PoorEdward
      @PoorEdward 2 роки тому

      23*

    • @mika274
      @mika274 Рік тому

      How old is Melina

  • @lymnn8269
    @lymnn8269 2 роки тому +384

    Bring back the fucking time stamps BRUHHH

    • @mcgarbagenuggets8793
      @mcgarbagenuggets8793 2 роки тому +14

      He’s getting lazy

    • @LowercaseKev
      @LowercaseKev 2 роки тому +2

      I listened to my 5yr old nephew call everybody bro and brah the entire weekend at a large family function🤣🤣🤣
      this comment made my day

  • @tdev04
    @tdev04 2 роки тому +305

    THIS is the content we need on UA-cam!
    There’s a lot of people (myself included) that primarily just watch the UA-cam videos and not the streams. Please put out more content like this!

    • @hallo-mt5tx
      @hallo-mt5tx 2 роки тому +12

      you arent really missing out on any exciting content, pretty much all of it gets uploaded eventually

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 2 роки тому +2

      You can literally watch the stream vods in Destiny Vault channel.

    • @LonnyH
      @LonnyH 2 роки тому +11

      @@RanEncounter we don't have time to watch the whole streams, that's why we watch the UA-cam videos lol

    • @RanEncounter
      @RanEncounter 2 роки тому +3

      @@LonnyH Who said you have to watch the whole thing? Vods are vods. You can skip to the parts you want to watch.

    • @LonnyH
      @LonnyH 2 роки тому +1

      @@RanEncounter wait what? Why did you point out that there are vods in the first place?

  • @trentthehehim3936
    @trentthehehim3936 2 роки тому +58

    OBJECTION! The witness keeps referring to himself as “ My friend”

  • @dylanpaterson4250
    @dylanpaterson4250 2 роки тому +400

    This is disgusting, I can’t believe she would pronounce “trauma” and “process” like that.

    • @trentirvin2008
      @trentirvin2008 2 роки тому +38

      Im sitting here fuming how does destiny just take that. “Trama” kill me ffs

    • @kaerakh4267
      @kaerakh4267 2 роки тому

      Based

    • @0h0hJ0i
      @0h0hJ0i 2 роки тому +14

      Lauren is Canadian

    • @TheDolphinTuna
      @TheDolphinTuna 2 роки тому +29

      I can’t believe I’m seeing such racist comments aboot Canadians

    • @Octa973
      @Octa973 2 роки тому

      @@TheDolphinTuna I'll own the process but Canadians don't own the TRAMA. She is fucked.

  • @astrodude9146
    @astrodude9146 2 роки тому +600

    Steven was in fact not calm. Love this content lol

    • @edwardlouisbernays2469
      @edwardlouisbernays2469 2 роки тому

      STATEMENT ON DR. KEVIN MACDONALD'S WORK
      1.Professor Kevin MacDonald serves on the editorial board and has
      published widely in the White nationalist journal The Occidental Quarterly, a journal devoted to "the cultural, ethnic, and racial interests of Western European peoples,"i which has consistently tried to make “the case for inherited human inequality.”ii
      2. MacDonald has advocated for the protection of the interests of
      “White European” Americans: ideally through the creation of a white
      ethnostate iii or failing that, through a return to the racially based restrictions of earlier U.S. immigration policy.iv
      He argues that white Europeans in the United States should limit
      non-white immigration in order to avoid “a substantial diminution of the
      genetic, political, and cultural influence of these people [white
      Europeans].”v
      3. MacDonald's writings about Jews include the following:
      a. repeated desciptions of Jews as a threat to white, European civilization vi
      b. the characterization of Western anti-Semitism as a rational,
      defensive response to the presence of Jews and
      their “hyper-ethnocentrism” and collectivist culture; vii
      c. description of his own work as “rational anti-Semitism; ”
      d. the statement that he considers being called an anti-Semite a “badge of honor”;
      e. The argument that Jews support cultural relativism, multicultural
      policies and nonwhite
      immigration to the United States in order to
      undermine White European culture and maintain their
      own positions of superiority.
      4. Throughout his writings, Dr. MacDonald insists that his
      generalizations about White Europeans, Jews, African-Americans and
      other groups have a genetic basis, and that these groups can be
      legitimately ranked along scales of positive and negative attributes,
      including loyalty, intelligence and so forth. MacDonald has argued that
      (Ashkenazic) Jews have specific abilities for intelligence, that White
      Europeans have a genetic predisposition for individualism, and that
      Blacks have lower abilities for intelligence. viii
      WHEREAS the Department of Linguistics has affirmed that, “We firmly
      and unequivocally disassociate ourselves from the positions on Jews,
      African-Americans, immigrants and other minority groups that he [Kevin
      MacDonald] has expressed in his writing and speech, and which have been
      widely used to legitimate the discriminatory agendas of a variety of
      hate groups who have associated themselves with his name”;
      While the
      Academic Senate defends Dr. Kevin MacDonald’s academic freedom and
      freedom of speech, as it does for all faculty, it firmly and
      unequivocally disassociates itself from the anti-Semitic and white
      ethnocentric views he has expressed.
      __________________________________________________

    • @Ouzzel
      @Ouzzel 2 роки тому +31

      For good reason.

    • @Wachpwnski
      @Wachpwnski 2 роки тому +4

      @@Ouzzel Destiny making an arguement: Out of blood!

    • @pierpokky2250
      @pierpokky2250 2 роки тому

      What a banger

    • @eshaybah5581
      @eshaybah5581 2 роки тому +14

      Destiny was on fire, rapping like a god and lauren was braindead. The only thing i didnt like is destiny keep saying "attack on democratic process, etc etc." He should say "attack on america" which it was, but apparently conservatives doesnt understand anything unless "america" word is used.

  • @drewdavidson663
    @drewdavidson663 2 роки тому +94

    18:10 destiny agrees to stop interrupting
    18:11 ad starts

    • @ster628
      @ster628 2 роки тому +12

      You don't have UA-cam Premium or ad block? You're to deep in the trenches for me my boy.

    • @edwardlouisbernays2469
      @edwardlouisbernays2469 2 роки тому

      1.Professor Kevin MacDonald serves on the editorial board and has
      published widely in the White nationalist journal The Occidental Quarterly, a journal devoted to "the cultural, ethnic, and racial interests of Western European peoples,"i which has consistently tried to make “the case for inherited human inequality.”ii
      2. MacDonald has advocated for the protection of the interests of “White European” Americans: ideally through the creation of a white ethnostate iii or failing that, through a return to the racially based restrictions of earlier U.S. immigration policy.iv
      He argues that white Europeans in the United States should limit
      non-white immigration in order to avoid “a substantial diminution of the
      genetic, political, and cultural influence of these people [white
      Europeans].”v
      3. MacDonald's writings about Jews include the following: a. repeated desciptions of Jews as a threat to white, European civilization vi
      b. the characterization of Western anti-Semitism as a rational,
      defensive response to the presence of Jews and
      their “hyper-ethnocentrism” and collectivist culture; vii
      c. description of his own work as “rational anti-Semitism; ”
      d. the statement that he considers being called an anti-Semite a “badge of honor”;
      e. The argument that Jews support cultural relativism, multicultural
      policies and nonwhite
      immigration to the United States in order to
      undermine White European culture and maintain their
      own positions of superiority.
      4. Throughout his writings, Dr. MacDonald insists that his
      generalizations about White Europeans, Jews, African-Americans and
      other groups have a genetic basis, and that these groups can be
      legitimately ranked along scales of positive and negative attributes,
      including loyalty, intelligence and so forth. MacDonald has argued that
      (Ashkenazic) Jews have specific abilities for intelligence, that White
      Europeans have a genetic predisposition for individualism, and that
      Blacks have lower abilities for intelligence. viii
      Psycho Idiot Bastard Is the Department of Linguistics affirmed that, “We firmly
      and unequivocally disassociate ourselves from the positions on Jews,
      African-Americans, immigrants and other minority groups that the
      Psycho Idiot Bastard [Kevin MacDonald] has expressed in his writing and speech, and which have been widely used to legitimate the discriminatory agendas of a variety of
      hate groups who have associated themselves with his name”; Psycho Idiot Bastard
      __________________________________________________

    • @amitkale4624
      @amitkale4624 2 роки тому +1

      Slippery Steve at it again! XD

    • @guido9861
      @guido9861 2 роки тому +3

      Am i too vanced for this comment?

    • @Diabolical3010
      @Diabolical3010 2 роки тому

      UA-cam premium 🥰🥰

  • @QuixEnd
    @QuixEnd 2 роки тому +112

    Those donation alerts are driving me mad. Last week it went of 50 f**ng times in a row and never got muted.

    • @KingEurope1
      @KingEurope1 2 роки тому +6

      It's too much to ask that "I invited streaming" Destiny to make his content listenable

    • @telepathyclub
      @telepathyclub 2 роки тому +44

      DIDNT SAY SIMON SAYS
      BRRRRRRR

    • @bringinthedope5929
      @bringinthedope5929 2 роки тому +3

      Gotta keep that money coming in lol. The audio is probably an incentive for some people

    • @JimC607
      @JimC607 2 роки тому +1

      Nothing better than hearing "EURO COCK" being screamed in Trumps voice 200 times

    • @EGstill85
      @EGstill85 2 роки тому

      Name the time and place...Obama...true Lauren

  • @Logan-yy8kb
    @Logan-yy8kb 2 роки тому +47

    this debate was TRAMATISING

    • @ps123fan
      @ps123fan 2 роки тому

      unhinged haha 31:21

    • @JinkyGames
      @JinkyGames 2 місяці тому

      So tramatising for Laran

  • @YousufFilms
    @YousufFilms 2 роки тому +214

    watching this through I can only come to the conclusion that lauren and destiny are clearly in love and they are obsessed

    • @MustardSkaven
      @MustardSkaven 2 роки тому

      Match made in heaven. They will have an extremist centrist baby like the Buffalo shooter.

    • @faikerdogan2802
      @faikerdogan2802 2 роки тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @jamesdoon5080
      @jamesdoon5080 2 роки тому +13

      Stephen has 0 love,he doesn't know what it means

    • @lc7173
      @lc7173 2 роки тому

      Agreed. One day he will admit his burning love and hate for the tradcon soon to be progressive love interest that is Lauren Southern.

    • @whitegirlsaremykryptonite5779
      @whitegirlsaremykryptonite5779 2 роки тому +4

      I mean can you blame him tho???

  • @davidpictures6809
    @davidpictures6809 2 роки тому +700

    Destiny and Lauren arguing is really good content they should just start a weekly podcast at this point.

    • @caseypdx503
      @caseypdx503 2 роки тому +33

      But I thought Destiny was best friends with her and they agree on everything! 😆😉

    • @skateorpie
      @skateorpie 2 роки тому +17

      The DL podcast

    • @ericstein8019
      @ericstein8019 2 роки тому +31

      Can Lauren handle weekly embarrassment?

    • @LewdConnoisseur
      @LewdConnoisseur 2 роки тому +6

      But that means I'd have to hear Lauren talk. FeelsWeirdMan

    • @richardnixon7248
      @richardnixon7248 2 роки тому +11

      @@caseypdx503 he doesn't argue with her like he argues with other people. He gets emotional because he cares about her. He doesn't humiliate her and make her look stupid and weak like he's capable of doing, because he doesn't want to do that to his bff.

  • @charlesnreed7094
    @charlesnreed7094 2 роки тому +34

    Destiny’s debates have been some of the most entertaining as of late more than anyone else in the same space.

  • @BunnyPoker1
    @BunnyPoker1 2 роки тому +64

    the funny thing is is that the crowd was literally chanting "hang mike pence" with a literal noose hanging on the grounds of the capital, but everyone in this comments just forgot about that

    • @nikolastiscareno4963
      @nikolastiscareno4963 2 роки тому +2

      Bro imagine how bad this shit was because people believed something was going to happen January 6th, my biggest example is the grifter Christian walker

    • @paderones13
      @paderones13 2 роки тому +5

      Kathy griffin

    • @martyollier7536
      @martyollier7536 2 роки тому

      It's called an effigy....

    • @EmperorNero
      @EmperorNero 2 роки тому

      Tbh that is an American institution. If you're not hung in effigy once are you even a politician.

    • @michaelvanderwal7390
      @michaelvanderwal7390 2 роки тому

      AOC was literally the member of congress who was too scared to go to the designated safe area. She was also the only one who was too scared to listen to the police. She's also the only one who accused a member of congress of trying to have her killed. And again, she wasn't even at the Capitol. In other words, she's being a ridiculous person, and her "trauma" deserves to be mocked.

  • @Perfexxiion
    @Perfexxiion 2 роки тому +67

    What if AOC and Ted Cruz play Among Us together and he often pushes to get her voted out as an imposter? She just forgot to specify "in a video game" at the end of her tweet.

    • @howdareyou41
      @howdareyou41 3 місяці тому

      AOC, MTG, and a Rabbi walk into a bar and AOC and MTG leave because they both hate Jews

  • @Eien.
    @Eien. 2 роки тому +65

    Thought this stream was going to get boring after Lauren left but her coming back to re-anger destiny was great.

  • @tiioga8053
    @tiioga8053 2 роки тому +85

    also truly loving this new trend of throwing money at arguments

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 2 роки тому +30

      yeah, destiny's position is basically "if you are going to act that confident that you are right, you better be willing to bet money on it, or you're full of shit." i agree with him.

    • @tiioga8053
      @tiioga8053 2 роки тому +17

      @@westingtyler1 thank you for explaining that to me

    • @seth0417
      @seth0417 2 роки тому +16

      @@tiioga8053 Mansplainer moment

    • @griggerykimothy4865
      @griggerykimothy4865 2 роки тому +29

      @@seth0417 are you mansplaining to her that he is mansplaining?

    • @rarekitchen5276
      @rarekitchen5276 2 роки тому +1

      @@seth0417 fuck I haven't laughed that hard at a comment in a very long time

  • @RBGHfam
    @RBGHfam 2 роки тому +16

    Your take on Jan 6th is cringe af and nothing more than audience capture.

    • @Lightningkuriboh
      @Lightningkuriboh 2 роки тому +3

      wow! very big brain comment

    • @RBGHfam
      @RBGHfam 2 роки тому

      @@Lightningkuriboh So 800 idiots with an invisible fire extinguisher are a threat to our democracy?
      OK Mr. big brain, what exactly was it that Trump said that invoked the riots?
      Would it have been ok if he said China rigged the election and ran a 3 year coup against Biden instead?

  • @RedrumZombies
    @RedrumZombies 2 роки тому +5

    Destiny is 100% unhinged and wrong about AOC. [at least in the 1st 15mins]
    To this day she cries about it.

  • @DorkoDoes
    @DorkoDoes 2 роки тому +20

    I’m so excited for the scheduled follow up next week

  • @op-physics
    @op-physics 2 роки тому +15

    Should have called her out on what she accused you. If she has no idea of what actually happened, why did she respond to AOC in the first place?

    • @nikolastiscareno4963
      @nikolastiscareno4963 2 роки тому

      Because Lauren feels so confident about the topics

    • @nikolastiscareno4963
      @nikolastiscareno4963 2 роки тому

      @@loganpro101 okay I guess so

    • @mopground
      @mopground 2 роки тому

      Like destiny or any of us do?

    • @LetsGetitBoah
      @LetsGetitBoah 2 роки тому

      So what actually happened?

    • @RedrumZombies
      @RedrumZombies 2 роки тому

      @@LetsGetitBoah Kids knocked on door, tried getting candy, and a lead projectile hit 1 in the head.

  • @Drdirtydee
    @Drdirtydee 2 роки тому +15

    For some reason I like him arguing with his friends he actually gets insulted by them.

  • @DrivingInTraffic
    @DrivingInTraffic 2 роки тому +50

    “It’a not my job to educate you” is probably one of the worst things to say in a debate. It feels like making an argument from a losing position. This debate is for the audience, not Lauren. You’re trying to make your case to the audience. When you won’t explain your ideas it feels like you are disingenuous, or you don’t understand your own beliefs.

    • @spiderog3778
      @spiderog3778 2 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure this debate was for Lauren lol. I understand what you're saying, but I would argue he's not thinking about the audience here he's thinking about the person he's talking too. Also I think he said that because Lauren didn't do the research for the Ted Cruz story, and she's trying to make him on the spot look up quotes which details the debate into one that's about reading and a bunch of quiet time, which I don't think Destiny wanted to do at that time.

    • @e.d.5766
      @e.d.5766 2 роки тому +1

      I think that was more about the fact that Lauren thinks she knows everything about January 6th because she was there, when she clearly hasn't done any research into what happened that she couldn't directly see or hear. She's talked about it so much and her understanding of it has always been terrible because she just assumes that she knows exactly what happened at every time and place because she saw some of it.

    • @sacredgear
      @sacredgear 2 роки тому +2

      This wasn’t a debate though. Plus it’s not that he didn’t want to explain his ideas it’s more that he didn’t want to have to explain the entire event, like a play by play. That would take HOURS and would just an easy way for Lauren to get out of actually engaging with her claims

  • @TheRiviaWitcher
    @TheRiviaWitcher 2 роки тому +44

    Why is he dying on this hill? Just admit that AOC telling Ted Cruz "you tried to get me killed" is an overreaction. Trying to justify it is unwinnable

    • @jarrettgunhouse9529
      @jarrettgunhouse9529 2 роки тому +2

      Think he said it was a tad hyperbolic

    • @TheRiviaWitcher
      @TheRiviaWitcher 2 роки тому +9

      @@jarrettgunhouse9529 So why was he reaching so hard for like 40 minutes trying to justify it?

    • @Chaelsonen
      @Chaelsonen 2 роки тому +10

      @@TheRiviaWitcher because being a tad bit hyperbolic doesnt really change the fact that there is some justification to the statement. How big the fish was does not change the fact it was caught. On top of that lauren southern uses this hyperbole whenever it suits her

    • @TheRiviaWitcher
      @TheRiviaWitcher 2 роки тому +13

      @@Chaelsonen "trying to get me killed" implies intent on Cruz's part which is a pretty gross hyperbole in my opinion. Her statement does not seem to be justified, and if it is then Destiny failed to demonstrate how.

    • @Chaelsonen
      @Chaelsonen 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheRiviaWitcher "pretty gross hyperbole" is in itself pretty gross hyperbole, its 3 words, 2 of them contradict eachother but all meaning really super duper, extra?

  • @eternalblue4660
    @eternalblue4660 2 роки тому +55

    This all started because of Steven's AOC dream 💀

    • @meatball5336
      @meatball5336 2 роки тому

      I had a dream that AOC got stuck in the hayloft and I was her step bro. But it was pimply so I didn't do it. Anyway take care.

    • @RedrumZombies
      @RedrumZombies 2 роки тому +2

      AOC Dream?

  • @kyuubimadara
    @kyuubimadara 2 роки тому +43

    This is probably the closest we get to a 2016 Destiny in a while and I'm loving it

    • @matthew-dq8vk
      @matthew-dq8vk 2 роки тому

      You need to find different things to love my guy, A few gold nuggets from Destiny is not something to get excited over. (He wants that pussy) that's the only reason lauren is continuing to appear on his channel.

  • @kirkvanallen5202
    @kirkvanallen5202 2 роки тому +53

    I also love gladiator. Even named my son Maximus. Most important part of the convo was the gladiator take gj.

  • @aelfgernon7729
    @aelfgernon7729 2 роки тому +57

    I think I could get on board with defending AOC's tweet if she had said something like "almost got me killed". But "trying to get me killed" is too directly accusatory, at least from what I know of the situation currently. Maybe if Cruz was pointing to her directly as one of the major players in "the steal" or something her tweet might closer to defensible.

    • @aelfgernon7729
      @aelfgernon7729 2 роки тому +2

      @@ade8890 I guess I just see a meaningful difference between the exasperated, in the moment exclamation uttered by the parent in the car vs. a tweet/written statement after the fact. I think the further you deviate from the common phrase the more time that has passed after the event the more people are going to take you literally.
      I looked up the tweet and the text is: "I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there’s common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out. Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed. In the meantime if you want to help, you can resign."
      Maybe I could forgive the "trying to get me killed" in isolation, but in light of the previous: "almost had me murdered" the whole tweet seems pretty reckless IMHO.

    • @aelfgernon7729
      @aelfgernon7729 2 роки тому +1

      @@ade8890 You think "Almost had me murdered" is a further extension of what you illustrated, I do not. I believe it too directly implies intent, and thus is a dangerous exaggeration. If AOC was inciting violence against the GOP I would probably agree that she is trying to get republicans killed. Though maybe something like Milkshaking would be violence, but without serious danger of killing. But advocating for any kind of violence is an extremely dangerous precedent, as you have no idea whether the people listening will take it further than you wanted. I might not agree that she was trying to get a specific Republican killed. The one level of removal of Ted's actions further breaks the analogy for me. He supported the overthrowing of our democratic election, and this resulted in violence, rather than he incited violence and this resulted in violence.
      I feel like the usage of "what are you trying to get me killed" type of phrases is mostly right after a near miss. Let's say one of my coworkers, Steve, did something stupid and reckless and nearly got me killed. I think it would be perfectly fine to shout something like: "Steve's trying to get me killed!" right after it happens. It might even be fine to bring it up in the future half joking, but maybe also to embarrass him or poke fun at him: "Remember that time that Steve tried to kill me?" But it is different to seriously and not in the heat of the moment frame it with as much intention is I believe she does. But at the end of the day it seems like we have different ideas around proper usage and parsing of language, and that is just going to vary with individuals.

    • @aelfgernon7729
      @aelfgernon7729 2 роки тому +1

      @Ade It still doesn't seem like you quite understand me. I do see how encouraging right wing extremism is dangerous for democrats, and if a lawyer/the state can make a case against Ted or Trump for their rhetoric being criminal I would be interested in the result but probably not have too many feelings about it.
      While there is precident for using language in such a way broadly, the phrasing and context in this specific case feel like reckless exaggeration. It looks like AOC phrased it that way to characterize Ted as something closer to malevolent rather than dumb and reckless. This is effective messaging no doubt, but bending the truth or dishonest framing like this seems to only increase division, radicalisation, and violence. While AOC's use of language is not nakedly and obviously this, I see it as a step too far in that direction.
      Edit: I also don't see AOC's tweet as that abnormal, a lot of politicians put this level of spin on the truth, but it is bad every time.

    • @DD-st5rh
      @DD-st5rh 2 роки тому +1

      It wasn't an exaggeration it was an outright lie

    • @RedrumZombies
      @RedrumZombies 2 роки тому

      I guess. But, the guy that failed to "assassinate" Reagan wasn't hired or told to do so.
      So Lauren using that word or "murder" is accurate enough.
      Destiny really thinks Jan 6 is worse than 99.9% of bad events that happened in America... I mean, at least he pointed out 9/11 was worse...

  • @ExperimentalGamer81
    @ExperimentalGamer81 2 роки тому +16

    Steven is totally wrong here. If AOC said something like "Cruz's actions led to a dangerous situation where I felt my life was in danger," that would be one thing. But her using the word "trying" to get her killed is totally different and preposterous.

    • @jakoblynas8016
      @jakoblynas8016 2 роки тому +1

      So you think it would be a complete misuse of language if someone talking about a time they almost got hit by a drunk driver said "They were trying to kill me!"?

    • @ExperimentalGamer81
      @ExperimentalGamer81 2 роки тому +1

      @@jakoblynas8016 100% Yes
      I'll add that Destiny used a similar example, but when he said it (in one version) he said "It's 'like' they were trying kill me' and that word "like" changes the sentence in an interesting way that proves my point. "Like" = "as if" - it's "as if they were trying to kill me" So the effect of their driving drunk would be the same effect as if they were driving with intent to kill me.
      And by comparing two different actions implies that they are indeed two different actions "trying to kill" versus "driving drunk"

    • @jakoblynas8016
      @jakoblynas8016 2 роки тому

      @@ExperimentalGamer81 I agree that the "like" in that instance made it disanalogous, I felt so at the time of hearing it. But that was only one instance, and in the others, you have to acknowledge that they are entirely realistic, if strictly incorrect, uses of language, of the kind that occur all the time, with a pretty clear meaning in the context.

    • @ExperimentalGamer81
      @ExperimentalGamer81 2 роки тому +1

      @@jakoblynas8016 I don't agree there's any room for varied interpretations around the word "try"

    • @jakoblynas8016
      @jakoblynas8016 2 роки тому +2

      @@ExperimentalGamer81 So the scenario of someone describing the drunk driving situation by saying "They were trying to kill me!" is unfathomable to you?

  • @RufusT.Barleysheaf
    @RufusT.Barleysheaf 2 роки тому +121

    I really love that all the sudden right wingers are very very focused on the exact meaning of words in their most literal interpretation after years and years of ignoring how downright incoherent Trump is in every one of his statements. It makes this whole thing feel extra bad faith because it is literally impossible to be consistent and approve of the way Trump uses words and also think AOC was out of line

    • @BenReillySpydr1962
      @BenReillySpydr1962 2 роки тому

      They consistently want to own the libs so that counts right?

    • @silverzippo2136
      @silverzippo2136 2 роки тому

      Trump isn't as incoherent as the MSM clips out of context make him out to be. He's still crazy, but there was a six year hit job focused on making him look worse.

    • @BenReillySpydr1962
      @BenReillySpydr1962 2 роки тому +3

      @@silverzippo2136 Thats true for every politician tho

    • @LewdConnoisseur
      @LewdConnoisseur 2 роки тому +10

      @@BenReillySpydr1962 Yes but the point is right wingers that support don't seem to think that for him.

    • @angiew2324
      @angiew2324 2 роки тому +25

      @@LewdConnoisseur Maybe that's because our entire lives are not focused on Trump and we can also support someone without agreeing with every word out of his mouth? 🤔 Just a thought.

  • @latariusjackson7930
    @latariusjackson7930 2 роки тому +15

    like i get it, i understand destiny thinks one day he’ll be able to smash, but man it aint worth it.

    • @Blitz0909
      @Blitz0909 2 роки тому +1

      Lol only one way to find out though

    • @JM-mh1pp
      @JM-mh1pp 2 роки тому

      To be honest smashing "queen nazi" herself is not a small feat

    • @misterkurt6867
      @misterkurt6867 2 роки тому +1

      I can’t tell if your talking about Lauren or AOC lmao

  • @legitlowtalker
    @legitlowtalker 2 роки тому +12

    Destiny has TDS bad

    • @athloner
      @athloner 2 роки тому

      TDS isn't real

  • @ZeldaVStheworld
    @ZeldaVStheworld 2 роки тому +28

    Yo. AOC wasn't even there though. That's why Lauren is rolling her eyes at AOC.

    • @justifiably_stupid4998
      @justifiably_stupid4998 2 роки тому +1

      Remember that AOC also claimed that she didnt trust the secret police because they were white men

    • @ZeldaVStheworld
      @ZeldaVStheworld 2 роки тому +1

      @@justifiably_stupid4998 Can't forget that. I just thought my comment was more pertinent to the overall argument but that would be a buzzer beater to pull out receipts on what you brought up lol

    • @akhnatenpage4854
      @akhnatenpage4854 2 роки тому

      The capital building across the street is getting stormed and flooded by tens of thousands of people. You see smoke and breaking glass. Trump signs and American flags. People calling for democrat heads. I’m sure I’d be scared for my life as the literal face of the young left movement.

    • @paderones13
      @paderones13 2 роки тому

      It makes sense it unnerved her but calling it traumatic is a bit much

    • @akhnatenpage4854
      @akhnatenpage4854 2 роки тому +1

      @@paderones13 have you ever been a political prisoner?

  • @Smayor75
    @Smayor75 2 роки тому +106

    Of course this would be Lauren’s position!
    C’mon Destiny, do you forget that this kind of accusation was labeled against her? That her rhetoric led to political violence and she always rejected it?
    If she agrees with you she will be undermining her own position and accepting her own guilt on past violence.

    • @wwlittlejOfficial
      @wwlittlejOfficial 2 роки тому +28

      it's so true, if Cruz's rhetoric had led to bloodshed, then her, supporting Cruz and trump and modern rightwing as a whole, did too. and she cant take that responsibility.

    • @jloiben12
      @jloiben12 2 роки тому +2

      This

    • @SAFbikes
      @SAFbikes 2 роки тому

      I had a Bernie Bro wish death upon me recently, boy… I sure hope he don’t show up to a baseball game

    • @SilverWave64
      @SilverWave64 2 роки тому

      Destiny’s rhetoric leads to violence, especially via terror organisations like BLM

    • @guffeluffe5987
      @guffeluffe5987 2 роки тому +13

      @@wwlittlejOfficial Yeah lets not talk about the summer of love and peacefull ''protests''

  • @Onaventea
    @Onaventea 2 роки тому +19

    AOC is also targeted by lots of right-wing pundits and voters OBSESSIVELY. I can understand why it would be a bit traumatic.

    • @Stable_Genius
      @Stable_Genius 2 роки тому

      Exactly. I was thinking of this as well. Lauren is a liar or autustic.

    • @abshaheen5713
      @abshaheen5713 2 роки тому

      She does make up like 10% of fox coverage given there are 200+ other house dems to talk about……

    • @martyollier7536
      @martyollier7536 2 роки тому +3

      AOC brings it on herself Every. Single. Time.

  • @Fanc3yNumb3rs
    @Fanc3yNumb3rs 2 роки тому +33

    Lauren stop triggering Destiny he needs to work on his Manifesto smh

  • @serahbay8864
    @serahbay8864 2 роки тому +22

    "it's not my job to educate you" WAS a pretty cringe moment tbh, let's not use that line ever again

  • @taylorsouthall739
    @taylorsouthall739 2 роки тому +30

    There's no doubt in my mind that Lauren actually knows how serious 1/6 was.
    Anyone still claiming that Trump isn't directly responsible for the violence that day is either a lost cause or lying to you.

    • @FlawlessP401
      @FlawlessP401 2 роки тому

      Lmao not only is he not responsible the dems are far more responsible by doing their shady maneuvering that caused bidens win look so illegitimate, and honestly in a world where we care about fair play and transparency it was illegitimate. It was legal but it definitely wasn't fair or at all the agreed upon game

  • @CiroqLee
    @CiroqLee 2 роки тому +17

    Never thought I’d say this but I really enjoy watching Destiny and Lauren Southern debate. Their friendship is kinda cute

    • @Rokaize
      @Rokaize 2 роки тому +4

      Their sexual tension is intense.

    • @CiroqLee
      @CiroqLee 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rokaize LMAO bruh

    • @PoorEdward
      @PoorEdward 2 роки тому

      @@Rokaize ur a virgin

  • @gameyo8146
    @gameyo8146 2 роки тому +19

    I’m not sure if it’s intentional or not, but Lauren changed AOC’s actual tweet and kept reiterating it. AOC actually said “you almost had me murdered”, while Lauren kept repeating “he tried to get me killed”. I read Lauren’s version as AOC implying intention to Ted Cruz while her actual tweet seems to be accusing Cruz of incompetency or negligence not malice. Really disappointing the conversation got stuck here when the actual discussion probably should’ve focused more on whether or not there was lethal neglect.

    • @TheControllPanel
      @TheControllPanel 2 роки тому +4

      If someone were to say, “X had Y murdered.” or “You had me attacked.” that would be interrupted as a deliberate, malicious, and intentional action.

    • @bruskorken
      @bruskorken 2 роки тому

      Good point.

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 2 роки тому

      Thats directly implying Cruz orchestrated a means of attempting to directly have AOC killed. So yes it clearly is highlighting the intent implication cruz when its clearly not the case. Cruz never wanted people dead, he wanted similarly to many other people, for the government to conduct proper national audit of the election before confirming Joe Biden or the results as provided. But every democrat and in part mainstream republican were blinking like glassy eyed goldfish ignoring the obvious that people had concern on the basis of the vote and it thus lead to January 6th.

    • @SuboptimalPrime
      @SuboptimalPrime 2 роки тому

      I understand it like this: "X *caused* the murder of Y".
      Now this can be either intentional or not, depending on the context

    • @AjaxDGonzo
      @AjaxDGonzo 3 місяці тому

      @@SuboptimalPrime I think “had” implies intention. Like if you use it in the future-tense “I have to go to the store”. Now “got” would work like “I almost got into a car accident”. It’s small, but that detail should matter on this scale of an accusation.

  • @nwgverified
    @nwgverified 2 роки тому +18

    destiny felt bad faith here, not a conservative btw

    • @LMO1012
      @LMO1012 2 роки тому +5

      Lauren is in bad faith, not a liberal btw.

    • @bentrinker1937
      @bentrinker1937 2 роки тому

      How so? I felt Lauren was being bad faith asking what did Ted Cruz say, to tie him to j6 potential violence. Meanwhile ted Cruz was going to vote to decertify the election.

    • @AUstudios
      @AUstudios 2 роки тому +2

      Lol when they went to DC I remember lauren confused the capitol with the White House she literally doesnt know the difference.

    • @tvnggg
      @tvnggg 2 роки тому

      I think the "trying" portion was a bit odd but overall destiny is absolutely correct

  • @MustardSkaven
    @MustardSkaven 2 роки тому +46

    Bad take, Steven. "Trying to get me killed" is very different from "Almost got me killed". The word "trying" implies there is an intent to kill and it's not just an unintended consequence of your actions.
    Even in your own example you said "It was like he was trying to kill me".
    You didn't say "He was trying to kill me!" It was like (it looked like) and literally claiming you tried to kill me...very different.

    • @Stabby666
      @Stabby666 2 роки тому

      Have you never heard someone ask “are you trying to get me killed?!” when someone does something incredibly stupid or dangerous? That’s exactly what Trumps enablers did when they caused so much outrage and hatred over a lie. Jan 6 was the result.

    • @wwlittlejOfficial
      @wwlittlejOfficial 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly, he fell for LS misquote and directional wording.

    • @eleccy
      @eleccy 2 роки тому +6

      I agree. Destiny is really reaching here. I can't even understand why?

    • @wwlittlejOfficial
      @wwlittlejOfficial 2 роки тому

      @@eleccy I think u need to re-read the comment.

    • @eleccy
      @eleccy 2 роки тому

      @@wwlittlejOfficial Explain?

  • @nb4411
    @nb4411 2 роки тому +25

    “Vaush didn’t say to kill anyone”
    Destiny literally has a video titled “Vaush says to shoot through windows” lol

    • @DDogg43777
      @DDogg43777 2 роки тому +14

      Because Vaush didn’t technically say to go out and kill people. That was the point… Someone technically not saying something, doesn’t mean they aren’t saying it. Let alone insinuating it…

    • @nb4411
      @nb4411 2 роки тому

      @@DDogg43777 Vaush said if a group of proudboys goes through a protest zone with guns then people should be able to shoot through windows at them.
      Ted Cruz questioned the results of the election.
      Big difference.

    • @karsten9387
      @karsten9387 2 роки тому +6

      @@DDogg43777 Yep. I wanted to help guide destiny and Lauren through this debate so much, because they (her in particular) got so caught up in the entire intent part of "getting me killed". In which case being dumb and negligent is okay as long as the intent isn't there (in Laurens opinion). It's very obvious that a politician shouldn't be that negligent, and legally you can still be held accountable for your lack of IQ or negligence depending on the circumstances.
      I really don't like Laurens way of making every debate be about semantics, rather than the topic at hand.

    • @nb4411
      @nb4411 2 роки тому +1

      @@karsten9387 She is using the word in its literal sense. Destiny is the one twisting it and getting caught up in semantics.

    • @DOFT.mp4
      @DOFT.mp4 2 роки тому +1

      @@nb4411 words have implications and its important to see what someone is saying not just in a literal sense

  • @lovebaltazar4610
    @lovebaltazar4610 2 роки тому +14

    Lauren "everyone is bad faith but me" Southern

    • @uUuWolf16uUu
      @uUuWolf16uUu 2 роки тому +1

      Love "Strawman" Baltazar (esq With no good Arguments)

  • @famalam943
    @famalam943 2 роки тому +67

    “Jan 6 is as important as 9/11”
    - Destiny.

    • @TheCamps10
      @TheCamps10 2 роки тому

      Yeah, what weak statement, a direct insurrectionary assault on the federal government and democracy itself, the system under which the entirety of America is run, is obviously way more important and impactful on the lives of everyone in America than a single terrorist attack on New York..

    • @WillmobilePlus
      @WillmobilePlus 2 роки тому +21

      That could only come out of the mouth of someone that was in like middle school back then.

    • @orderofazarath7609
      @orderofazarath7609 2 роки тому

      He used 9/11 to say something along the lines of "worst since" to illustrate that the right apparently disagrees with this statement as they don't consider the 6th to have been such a big deal.

    • @Onthebrink5
      @Onthebrink5 2 роки тому +11

      @@WillmobilePlus A brilliant non sequitur. In Like middle school like literally like.

    • @lmao-yp7kn
      @lmao-yp7kn 2 роки тому +2

      Based

  • @chrischris7003
    @chrischris7003 2 роки тому +28

    Destiny is legit unhinged

  • @chrismoseley4828
    @chrismoseley4828 2 роки тому +14

    Seems like destiny has a msnpc level understanding of Jan 6th.

    • @tcritt
      @tcritt 2 роки тому

      Can you help me out and tell me where you get your info about what happened?

    • @barneystinson2781
      @barneystinson2781 2 роки тому +3

      @@tcritt watch the videos of it. Some areas had really violent people. Others had people walking through in the designated areas and looking around. Some entrances had people fight cops to get in while others had cops telling the protestors "I dont agree with you, but I respect your protest" while holding the door open.

    • @tcritt
      @tcritt 2 роки тому

      @@barneystinson2781 Yeah, seen them. What's your point? The guys walking about calmly don't make the other shit better. It just means not everyone was violent or involved in something with the same level of premeditation. The thing is though... nobody is saying they were. What's your special non-MSNBC insight I'm supposed to be gleaning from your comment?

  • @Young2Kauri1976
    @Young2Kauri1976 2 роки тому +13

    Some of us remember Lauren's breakthrough video for rebel media when she walked into the antifa section of a brexit protest, wearing a union jack hat to rile them up and when one of them took it off her head and threw it in a bin she went off saying she was assaulted and generally played the victim TF

    • @cineastik8220
      @cineastik8220 2 роки тому +1

      Ok, did she seriously do that? Do you have any source? I mean, she is despicable af, but that would be horrendously pathetic even for her…

    • @Lion-hj7ch
      @Lion-hj7ch 2 роки тому +6

      Yes women in mini skirts are asking for it also...........
      I dk why you'd encourage unsafe environment

    • @Young2Kauri1976
      @Young2Kauri1976 2 роки тому +1

      @@Lion-hj7ch whatever you say mr grapist

    • @Young2Kauri1976
      @Young2Kauri1976 2 роки тому

      @@cineastik8220 if you seriously want proof it's "Lauren Southern attacked by anti-fascist thugs in London". rebel news cut out the preamble of her riling the protesters and starts from the moment they get sick of her shit.
      Sure they shouldn't have shown aggression or laid hands on her but she got exactly the reaction she was fishing for.
      Such great journalism.

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 Рік тому

      I mean that is still absolutely physical assault if it happened….
      Was it unprovoked, no but that still is assault.

  • @TheDude322
    @TheDude322 2 роки тому +10

    The only good thing about politics being online is you can see that literally everyone involved is bat shit crazy

    • @philodox7599
      @philodox7599 2 роки тому

      what did Lauren say that was "bat shit crazy"?

    • @Blitz0909
      @Blitz0909 2 роки тому +1

      Philodox “trama”

  • @erronousactions
    @erronousactions 2 роки тому +54

    If a person's entire living depends on their political position, like Lauren's is.. Do we honestly think we could ever get her to honestly change her mind? It'd risk torpedoing her among her base, potentially tanking her income streams, right? So what do we do?

    • @jinzok
      @jinzok 2 роки тому +1

      yeah but, some of them are trying to jump wagons but just cant because of their past.
      Politics and youtbubers or live streamers have years of content, many regulars are jumping to the politics side. H3H3 for example, using hasan to show people he hates ted cruz or what ever. btw destiny is a pioner of this shit

    • @SaladDongs
      @SaladDongs 2 роки тому +2

      We need a Lauren Southern redemption arc where she cuts her hair and she's paraded around constitution ave while antifa boos her as redemption

    • @jord.an6123
      @jord.an6123 2 роки тому

      No we can't reasonably expect that. You're right, she's in too deep. That's why there's no point engaging with her besides pointed criticism.
      Maybe i'm biased because i'm Australian, but her content inspired an Australian neo-nazi to gun down 51 innocent men women and children. She has not learned or grown since that. Early on she realised she could make a quick buck peddling white replacement conspiracy nonsense, and it led to people dying. I would say the same about any of the other content creators who's views influenced the Christchurch killer. She's beyond saving or helping, just like they are.
      Destiny is being horrifically irresponsible (or being taken advantage of) every single time he speaks with her, or speaks positively about her. She's a cancerous stain on public discourse.

    • @npc-lowlife6940
      @npc-lowlife6940 2 роки тому +5

      That is literally true for everyone related to politics bro

    • @TheCamps10
      @TheCamps10 2 роки тому +2

      You don't fight political pundits in the hope of changing their minds. You do in the hopes of changing their audience's minds.

  • @justthedon1792
    @justthedon1792 2 роки тому +10

    Lauren fans have infiltrated this comment section lol

    • @Littlekitten_
      @Littlekitten_ 2 роки тому +3

      I like Destiny but i like Lauren even more

  • @markgoodhart6258
    @markgoodhart6258 2 роки тому +32

    Some riots are worse than others because of the amount of damage done or lives lost?
    Yes???

    • @bigpacthatseazye3462
      @bigpacthatseazye3462 2 роки тому +4

      some are but not in this context

    • @Darklordiban7
      @Darklordiban7 2 роки тому +15

      I think he was trying to say that Jan 6th wasn't damaging in the same type of way - that instead of heavy property damage and loss of life, it resulted in damage to people's faith and trust in the system.

    • @markgoodhart6258
      @markgoodhart6258 2 роки тому +8

      @@Darklordiban7 that’s a very entitled response that the deaths of people don’t matter against the harm done to the process. I’m not saying you’re saying that but it’s a really shitty perspective.

    • @vi2ch
      @vi2ch 2 роки тому

      @@markgoodhart6258 The election lie, fake news etc.. rhetoric is really really bad. It's amazing how many people don't realize this. It's dictator 101 playbook. No faith and trust in systems can easily lead to civil wars which would lead to way more death and property damage than BLM.

    • @schwarg
      @schwarg 2 роки тому

      @@Darklordiban7 you didn't need j6 for that to happen. It's inevitable given how incompatible our cultures are at this point. likely to see more similar events going forward. Case in point the media riling up lefties to try and assassinate supreme court judges.

  • @Anans1_Spyd3r
    @Anans1_Spyd3r 2 роки тому +33

    You know what is really liberating? Being a free agent. Lauren is on team conversative so she has defend Jan 6th. Just let it go. Disavow the idiots and move on with your life.

    • @dand2810
      @dand2810 2 роки тому

      I'm on team conservative and I don't defend Jan 6th. It was an embarrssment and it showed me some of those cries from the left were legitimate. Trumptards are almost as lobotomised as progressives. I struggle with who's worse

    • @Anans1_Spyd3r
      @Anans1_Spyd3r 2 роки тому

      @@kurtadams9740 So going to back to this free agent thing. I can literally say yeah the Democrats are acting extremely hypocritical and have some very selective amnesia regarding the last 6 years. So here is my fair and consistent prescription when BLM says "Fry them like Bacon" regarding killing cops and MAGA peeps say "Hang Mike Pence" with nooses regarding sitting VP who is trying to ratify an election, your credibility is severely damaged and the onus is on you to win it back. Doesn't matter how justified you were until your rhetoric crosses that line.

    • @Anans1_Spyd3r
      @Anans1_Spyd3r 2 роки тому +1

      So when you can't see replies, does it mean that person is shadow banned or they deleted the post?

    • @TheJoethud22
      @TheJoethud22 2 роки тому

      @@Anans1_Spyd3r You tell me man cause I just have the reply gone

    • @millennialmongoose3392
      @millennialmongoose3392 2 роки тому

      @@Anans1_Spyd3r I've been wondering for a long time sometimes you can see em on incognito mode but some just don't show up for whatever reason

  • @papabull8993
    @papabull8993 2 роки тому +16

    Destiny "Show me the AOC Quote..." Lauren provides the tweet with quote.
    Lauren, "Show me the Ted Cruz Quote.',,," Destiny, "I'm not here to educate you."

    • @elliedavies7138
      @elliedavies7138 2 роки тому +1

      When destiny asked for a quote it was literally the specific quote they were arguing over. One that they had both seen before; he just wanted to check what it said.
      Lauren was asking for multiple quotes from someone in the middle of a conversation that was not planned at all. Her whole thing was wanting to get quotes of him saying, or eluding, that he wants to have AOC killed.. which is stupid for a multitude of reasons, one being that she never said "have me killed" she said "get me killed". You can get someone killed be putting them in a dangerous situation, however having someone killed can ONLY mean hiring or coercing people to kill someone. What AOC said was definitely a bit too over the top but it's incredibly far removed from what lauren is accusing her of saying...
      Especially since if you actually listen to the start of the convo, destiny only really needs to explain how her fears were justified. He'd already said she could've worded it better.

    • @papabull8993
      @papabull8993 2 роки тому +2

      @@elliedavies7138 So, do you think, if someone can not prove a specific incriminating statement was made, maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't use it in an argument, as a statement of fact? Because doing that makes it look like the person is just making things up to prove a point?

    • @elliedavies7138
      @elliedavies7138 2 роки тому +2

      @@papabull8993 it's almost like you didn't read the part about "have someone killed" versus "get someone killed"...
      His endorsement of trump and his speech could have got people killed. That's different than him having someone killed.. like as in hiring someone to kill someone else

  • @MrJpreezy17
    @MrJpreezy17 2 роки тому +2

    Lauren in fact never came back for the conversation lol

  • @verucasaltpile3510
    @verucasaltpile3510 2 роки тому +2

    Me @ a bad Uber driver: Jesus, are you trying to get me killed!?
    Uber driver: Look here ma'am if you're gonna accuse me of trying to assassinate you I'm gonna have to end the ride

  • @drphoenix8246
    @drphoenix8246 2 роки тому +12

    Normally agree with Destiny takes, but Lauren is more correct here lol

  • @jasonkunstmann327
    @jasonkunstmann327 2 роки тому +7

    You can take the Steve out of Nebraska, but you can't take the Nebraska out of Steve
    Making popcorn rn

  • @2smoothku
    @2smoothku 2 роки тому +19

    Crazy that people take Lauren serious.

  • @Pegases0
    @Pegases0 2 роки тому +8

    Question for destiny. If the election one of the most important institutions then why get super buttmad over the call for audits? Are you perhaps not confident in the claim 2020 elections are the most secure in history, or is it that you blindly hold that claim as absolute fact.

    • @MithosDagon
      @MithosDagon 2 роки тому +1

      This is Destiny we’re talking about he blindly takes whatever mainstream news says as fact.

  • @Ccody47
    @Ccody47 2 роки тому +26

    It's getting harder and harder to tell if Lauren is bad faith or actually dumb

    • @michaelvanderwal7390
      @michaelvanderwal7390 2 роки тому

      I'm a Destiny fan, and I gotta say he looked unhinged here. AOC is being ridiculous, and Steven not recognizing that is even more ridiculous. AOC was literally the only member of congress who did not trust the capital police, and she is the only member of congress who accused Ted Cruz (or any other Senator) of trying to have her murdered. Also, there is zero evidence Cruz's rhetoric even comes close to that of Vaush's. I hate to say it, but this is Steven's Scalia fascist moment, and all of his faux righteous indignation and anger can't cover up the fact that he doesn't know what he's talking about.

    • @auirex4557
      @auirex4557 2 роки тому +1

      Yes.

    • @robertfetrow4612
      @robertfetrow4612 Рік тому +4

      I felt the same way about destiny
      I mean he’s actually arguing that saying someone is trying to get me killed is some people said things that made others not do anything but I felt like someone might kill me. I mean, that’s why he’s screaming the whole time. He has no point but wants everyone to think Lauren is the crazy one

    • @robertfetrow4612
      @robertfetrow4612 Рік тому +3

      Lol, destiny uses ad hominem attack but believes saying it’s not makes it so
      Typical lefty logic

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 11 місяців тому

      Both is the pretty easy answer here.

  • @finalfantazoid3400
    @finalfantazoid3400 2 роки тому +34

    Most insanely true thing Destiny said, "wait 6 months". I'm actually an ex Vaush fan turned Destiny fan in 2021, purely because Vaush posed him as bad faith in the Rittenhouse debates, I thought he was unhinged till more facts came out, and now I'm a proud Daliban agent. In shallah we will prevail

    • @nikolastiscareno4963
      @nikolastiscareno4963 2 роки тому +14

      I love isarel Gon

    • @inception1695
      @inception1695 2 роки тому +8

      Inshallah brother, Destiny shall bless your heart in the fight against the infidels, Daliban forever

    • @emeryboehnke4259
      @emeryboehnke4259 2 роки тому +1

      Alhamdulillah!! You have arrived on the omnilogically good side

  • @u-nis
    @u-nis 2 роки тому +10

    They are arguing about whether killed means with intent or without intent but it means both. It depends on context. Killed by drunk driver,killed be serial killer. The argument is did Cortez mean with intent or without intent

    • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping
      @LetsTalkAboutPrepping 2 роки тому +3

      "Trying " to get "me" killed. Not "put me and everyone else at risk of death". It's pretty explicit

  • @kazekagekid
    @kazekagekid 2 роки тому +9

    Destiny, it’s not undermining the electoral process to advocate for the full electoral process to be used rather than the simple rubber stamp. The protest was super cringe but where were the guns if it was an insurrection? Surely they’re the gun owning type, and why would insurrectionists honor DC gun laws?

    • @undeadman7676
      @undeadman7676 2 роки тому

      This is one of the single biggest blind spots people like Destiny have.
      Ted Cruz, a LAWYER, making a LEGAL claim, using the LEGAL process to undermine an election is NOWHERE NEAR the same level as something like Russiagate that actually resulted in sitting members of Trump's administration getting unconstitutionally investigated and arrested over fabricated claims of fraud.

    • @JayD73
      @JayD73 2 роки тому

      Protests aren’t cringe riots are

    • @kevinwalter4078
      @kevinwalter4078 2 роки тому +2

      Let's also completely ignore the fact that opposing electors is a totally normal aspect of the losing side and democrats did the exact same thing when Trump was being certified in 2017...

  • @lonemindinacrowd
    @lonemindinacrowd 2 роки тому +8

    I'm 99% sure that Destiny would completely be taking Laurens position on AOCs delusions if this were a Republican in similar circumstances and saying the same things.

    • @athloner
      @athloner 2 роки тому

      Nah, Destiny is right, it's the opposite. If BLM was storming the capitol Lauren would be jumping in defending the Republicans talking about their PTSD and blaming the inflammatory rhetoric from Democrats. I think Destiny would agree.

  • @Alaric11
    @Alaric11 2 роки тому +27

    Steve makes fun of Lauren for saying to link an exact tweet at 29:55, and then not even 15 seconds later he unironically wants Lauren to link her an exact tweet at 30:07. Steve lost this debate so hard and was being ridiculously bad faith and uncharitable. At no point did he ever try to steel man her position and the fact that he was so triggered shows just how badly he was owned.

    • @TheCamps10
      @TheCamps10 2 роки тому

      Please tell me you're not this stupid

    • @bryant7369
      @bryant7369 2 роки тому

      You need a brain transplant if you come away from this conversation thinking Destiny is the one who looks bad

    • @NozdormusRage
      @NozdormusRage 2 роки тому

      You Lauren simps are a trip.

  • @bluechip1331
    @bluechip1331 2 роки тому +14

    Destiny lost this. He has TDS.

    • @dickgoblin
      @dickgoblin 2 роки тому +3

      It's a two way street.

  • @BPattB
    @BPattB 2 роки тому +36

    I wonder about Steven's thoughts on the guy that was arrested and admitted he was going to assassinate Kavanaugh. Is Chuck Schumer responsible because of his rhetoric? I'm only 45 minutes into the video so maybe this does get brought up.

    • @TeecueDee
      @TeecueDee 2 роки тому +29

      We don't talk about that, nor Rand Paul getting a punctured lung from an attack, nor Steve Scalise and other Republicans getting shot at. We have to respect AOC having PTSD from something in the building across the street from her.

    • @TierDvik
      @TierDvik 2 роки тому +17

      @@TeecueDee across the street AND at a different time then when she started her panic.

    • @CynicalGear
      @CynicalGear 2 роки тому

      No destiny definitely wouldn’t because destiny honestly doesn’t give a shit what the Democrats do he only complains about Republicans even though Democrats can do much worse and have them much worse. Do you notice how he calls Donald Trump one of the most fascist presidents but ignores the fact that Joe Biden literally set up a Ministry of truth, and also wanted to force people to take a vaccine. I don’t think Destiny even knows what the word fascist means.

    • @BPattB
      @BPattB 2 роки тому +8

      @@TeecueDee Yeah got to respect a self-righteous bartender know it all.

    • @mariomario1462
      @mariomario1462 2 роки тому

      @@TeecueDee are u insane? THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT AT AN INSURRECTION OF THE CAPITOL BY THE PRESIDENT u clown. It wasn't one random guy.

  • @eleccy
    @eleccy 2 роки тому +24

    This is really reaching. This is like old Destiny again, like I've stepped back in time 3 years and you're just trying to rhetoric your way into a win.

    • @cambienvenu
      @cambienvenu 2 роки тому

      How is it reaching? The AOC tweet implies gross negligence, and Lauren appears to not understand that word choice matters when she says shit like “assassinate”.

    • @TheRiviaWitcher
      @TheRiviaWitcher 2 роки тому +2

      @@cambienvenu "trying" implies intent, not gross negligence. Destiny was reaching hard and I dont even understand why he wouldnt just admit AOC was overreacting on this one and move on.

    • @eleccy
      @eleccy 2 роки тому +1

      @@cambienvenu Impressive double somersault, now do the triple backflip mental gymnastic please? Nah but to be serious, I don't think that's the implication at all of her tweet, and I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion.
      And since it's such a serious accusation, AOC shouldn't have made it unless she can really back it up - and she can't.

    • @Seasmhach
      @Seasmhach 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheRiviaWitcher good thing AOC never said trying, she said "almost had". That is Lauren's dumb misquoting and Destiny shouldn't of let her get away with it.

    • @TheRiviaWitcher
      @TheRiviaWitcher 2 роки тому

      @@Seasmhach Wait really? They both kept repeating the word trying dozens of times and she never even said it? Lol, That entire debate was worthless then.

  • @Hawaiiancrunch555
    @Hawaiiancrunch555 Рік тому +2

    Destiny lost this one. I see a pattern here of him getting really excited and upset when he is behind the 8 ball.

  • @ZRockwell
    @ZRockwell 2 роки тому +14

    I think their relationship is one of the more important things in the political sphere.
    It has the potential to demonstrate the ability to be friends with someone who has opposite political views from yourself, something a lot more common 50 years ago.
    I hope the can remain friends.

    • @mechaux1
      @mechaux1 2 роки тому

      yep back when both sides agreed that the blacks and mexicans need to stay out of our neighborhood and schools (joe biden was against "forced busing" in the 70's), the political options were small and disagreement with the state was un-american because the commies were around the corner. Jokes aside anyone who lies to your face like Lauren does not have respect for you they don't see you as a friend they see you as putty for them to mold and manipulate

    • @evaahh9584
      @evaahh9584 2 роки тому

      Sorry I ain’t gonna be friends with someone who’s policy prescriptions lead to my quality of life plummeting.

    • @ZRockwell
      @ZRockwell 2 роки тому

      @@evaahh9584 understandable, what concerns do you specifically have from your opposing political party?

  • @datadude295
    @datadude295 2 роки тому +22

    Lauren won this

    • @WELSHGAMER99
      @WELSHGAMER99 2 роки тому +5

      Lauren won this by being weasally asf

    • @lapelcelery42
      @lapelcelery42 2 роки тому +2

      @@WELSHGAMER99 Well that wouldn't be winning then, would it?

    • @mcgarbagenuggets8793
      @mcgarbagenuggets8793 2 роки тому +1

      @@WELSHGAMER99 lol you’re delusional

    • @WELSHGAMER99
      @WELSHGAMER99 2 роки тому +1

      @@mcgarbagenuggets8793 and you have no argument

    • @mcgarbagenuggets8793
      @mcgarbagenuggets8793 2 роки тому

      @@WELSHGAMER99 no point in arguing with someone who’s delusional 🫠

  • @shadowgame0630
    @shadowgame0630 2 роки тому +27

    I usually side with Destiny on this but I think someone saying "this guy's trying to kill me" about some rando or a friend is vastly different from a politician saying "you tried to kill me/you're trying to kill me" to another politician so extremely politically opposed to them.

  • @SonicoBomo
    @SonicoBomo 2 роки тому +3

    I hate when people start going through what people wrote on twitter instead of just asking what they believe.

    • @LMO1012
      @LMO1012 2 роки тому

      AOC even spoke about her experience. But bc she was in another building connected to the capital, she’s apparently supposed to know the insurrections plan into what and where they were going. Which is in Lauren’s bad faith argument. She’s absolutely going off only tweets and her bias.

  • @rare-6608
    @rare-6608 2 роки тому +1

    I’m not claiming there is or ever was voter fraud but mail in ballots are the easiest way to commit voter fraud.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 11 місяців тому

      Now if only Republicans had *any* evidence of it ever in *any* of the states it had been implimented in for decades.

  • @AUstudios
    @AUstudios 2 роки тому +26

    Daily reminder that lauren doesnt know the difference between the White House and the capitol and her job is to talk american politics professionally.

    • @johnatola7731
      @johnatola7731 2 роки тому +1

      As a Canadian living in Australia.

    • @AUstudios
      @AUstudios 2 роки тому +1

      @@andrewstarr8062 then why's her name southern? Checkmate

  • @platosghost6916
    @platosghost6916 2 роки тому +29

    I'm so sore-y for your traama, AOC.

  • @joeyironhammer2306
    @joeyironhammer2306 2 роки тому +7

    Neither of them seem to have picked up on the difference between "you almost had me murdered" and "you TRIED to have me murdered". The first doesn't require intentionality, and it absolutely covers actions that result from irresponsible rhetoric.

    • @joeyironhammer2306
      @joeyironhammer2306 2 роки тому +3

      @@dogeatdog6157 Of course. "Have me murdered" CAN mean that it's intentional. But I'm just saying that it doesn't NECESSARILY mean that.
      Frankly I don't think that even AOC would stand by the idea that Cruz actively attempted to get people to murder her. It's a fairly absurd position to defend.
      The more relevant conversation is about whether his rhetoric contributed to what happened, and whether he therefore carries a meaningful portion of the moral responsibility.

    • @finnmacmanus5723
      @finnmacmanus5723 2 роки тому

      @@dogeatdog6157 yes because what people know about the structure of the mob implies that direct orders were given to a hit man. This was a riot directly or otherwise instigated by politicians, you can say that those politicians almost had people killed without always saying that it was with intent.

  • @Cycstorm
    @Cycstorm 2 роки тому +9

    "Traaama" lol

  • @takesls5492
    @takesls5492 2 роки тому +2

    Destiny 0 Lauren 6

  • @radiofreedom947
    @radiofreedom947 2 роки тому +15

    The January 6th event was a mostly peaceful protest.

  • @LukeHarpercouk
    @LukeHarpercouk 2 роки тому +9

    As a European January 6th definitely isn't nearly as big of a significant event than 9/11 and on the world stage the failed pullout from Afghanistan was far more significant as a national embarrassment than Jan 6th. The problem is nothing actually happened, if something did actually happen then it would be significant but it's being framed by destiny as if it was moments away from trump seizing a dictatorship over the US.

    • @qmanization2375
      @qmanization2375 2 роки тому

      Did he ever say it effected the world like 9/11? I just remember him saying its one of the most fucked things to Happen in US history. I'm sure the effects it had here were obviously way different than in europe.

    • @LukeHarpercouk
      @LukeHarpercouk 2 роки тому

      @@qmanization2375 if it actually was significant we would know about it. From all I can tell is they just stuck a national guard at Washington DC afterwards and then biden assumed presidency. There was no uprising, no rebellion nothing following it other than media noise.

    • @qmanization2375
      @qmanization2375 2 роки тому

      @@LukeHarpercouk that's such a silly point. First of all you do know about it. Second 9/11 was a threat to not justAmerica, so of course there was more hysteria (plus so many people died) third, just because it wasn't globally significant, doesn't mean it isn't incredibly significant in the US. The president tried to undermine the election, with state representatives that align with them politically did everything to back them up. If things went a little different it would have been a big deal to the world. But it's only a big deal to us because it happened in our country with our elections. You can't seriously tell me there are never big deals in Europe that aren't big deals worldwide. It just makes no sense.

    • @LukeHarpercouk
      @LukeHarpercouk 2 роки тому

      @@qmanization2375 if he actually succeeded in any notable way it would be actually historic, instead it's presented he was on the precipice of some coup that was thwarted by the media. I may be wrong but it really will not go down in history like how people seem to want to frame it as nothing practically happened. If be was actually close to succeeding it would be far more catastrophic and likely violent than it actually was as most coups are.

    • @qmanization2375
      @qmanization2375 2 роки тому +1

      @@LukeHarpercouk I think maybe we're missing eachother here. I dont think it was a historically bad event because they succeeded in anything. It's because the madness that was Jan. 6'th was egged on by the President of the United States at the time. Not only that but over 50 percent of Republicans in America think that Trump actually won the election. They were chanting stuff like "hang Mike Pence" and tried to hurt the people working in the building DURING the most important procedure to happen in American Politics. I think you are wrong,but I could also be wrong. I really do think that was the first showing of what's going to become a major problem for America. And in the long run probably the Republican party. Also I did hear him compare it to 9/11 and say it was possibley "worse" which I dont agree with, but I'd be interested in his arguments for that. But maybe he thinks the same I do in that it's going to bolden future events like that one and create even bigger problems for the US.

  • @blackthornejoshua2929
    @blackthornejoshua2929 2 роки тому +6

    Did trump not get denied national guard by Pelosi?

    • @jameshyde022
      @jameshyde022 2 роки тому +1

      leave facts out of this.

    • @yoloswaggins7121
      @yoloswaggins7121 2 роки тому

      No he didn't

    • @blackthornejoshua2929
      @blackthornejoshua2929 2 роки тому +1

      @@yoloswaggins7121 I'm not trying to be patronizing in any way. can you point me in the right direction the video or information of how you know that he didn't.

    • @yoloswaggins7121
      @yoloswaggins7121 2 роки тому

      @@blackthornejoshua2929 I can't really prove a negative.
      But I know for sure that Pelosi wouldn't stop the national guard from being deployed when the capitol was being overrun by crazy people. Because of course she wouldn't.

    • @blackthornejoshua2929
      @blackthornejoshua2929 2 роки тому

      @@yoloswaggins7121 I can appreciate the honesty. without proof of Nancy's actual response, that makes your claim an assumption of what you believe Nancy would do in said situation. When claims exist that Nancy denied trump when he requested national guard on j6, I dont understand how one can honestly debunk that without some kind of evidence against it.
      I'm not claiming either is true. Only that without at least one piece of information that implies Nancy didn't deny trump him asking this, that one cannot honestly claim their narrative/belief as fact or truth.
      It takes quite some time in life but nearly all if not all belief is faith based. What is known is always infinitely smaller than what is unknown. Hubris is the enemy.

  • @earlsb23
    @earlsb23 2 роки тому +5

    My main problem with the recent Jan 6 coverage is that it can have the appearance of being a mere partisan distraction from current issues, especially to moderate or right-leaning voters. IMO, it's an unnecessarily big risk given that Dems already failed to impeach Trump on the Jan 6 shenanigans.
    Looking back, this is why I wish one of the courts would've taken up at least one of the Trump cases (either the PA or Louie Gohmert case), listened to the arguments, and then sided against Trump. This could've taken a lot of the wind out of some of these "rigged election" claims, as it would've given Democrats more tangible ammunition to point to.

  • @tullio0
    @tullio0 2 роки тому +2

    No idea who the Steven guy is - but his debate style is unhinged. Screaming, fast talking, yelling.

  • @SeeMeRot
    @SeeMeRot 2 роки тому

    White privilege is not having the fear of police when you've done nothing wrong.

  • @Donatoni
    @Donatoni 2 роки тому +5

    Lame take Destiny

    • @ericstein8019
      @ericstein8019 2 роки тому +1

      Wait until you find out he doesn’t like conservatives lmao

  • @jessethomas9676
    @jessethomas9676 2 роки тому +10

    I don’t know man, we had way more freedom under trump. I don’t get where the fascist accusation comes from

    • @BDKoala
      @BDKoala 2 роки тому +5

      The freedom to elect your own government and not have the loser try to overturn the result via coup is a big one. Plus Trump consistently belittled various government institutions necessary for a healthy functioning democracy. The guy was the ultimate post-modernist.

    • @guffeluffe5987
      @guffeluffe5987 2 роки тому

      Lefties don't want freedom lol

    • @jessethomas9676
      @jessethomas9676 2 роки тому

      @@BDKoala belittling government institutions is like, anti fascist. I don’t mean “antifa”, the terrorist pro-fascist gang. I mean anti fascist. Most of these institutions are horrible.
      And, yeah wanting legit elections is also anti fascist.
      So my comment stands

    • @BDKoala
      @BDKoala 2 роки тому

      @@jessethomas9676 ah yes the just wanting 'legit elections' when he's calling the Georgia governor (I believe governor) to ask him to specifically find 10000 votes (aka his losing margin). You know he just cares about election integrity. Give me a break 🤣

    • @BDKoala
      @BDKoala 2 роки тому

      @@jessethomas9676 also its funny how you downplay and rever his belittling of government institutions as that was what the fascist parties of Europe did in the 1920-30s.

  • @carlstegeman9750
    @carlstegeman9750 2 роки тому +11

    I just got to the" he does gun commercials part" 😂😂😁😁😂😂😂 I cant believe you posted this.

  • @JHSMDH
    @JHSMDH 2 роки тому +38

    "You just dont want to agree with me on stream" the audience claps and cheers for her truths

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 Рік тому +1

      She said some RS ngl lol

    • @fruehlingsobst8123
      @fruehlingsobst8123 Рік тому

      Whats RS?

    • @dylanshandley1246
      @dylanshandley1246 Рік тому

      @@fruehlingsobst8123real shit, I’d assume.

    • @Zach.C1
      @Zach.C1 Рік тому

      @@sjappiyah4071far from it but that’s a cute opinion sweaty💅

    • @thebermuda99
      @thebermuda99 11 місяців тому

      @@Zach.C1 how do you know he’s sweaty seems like a big assumption to make and your complaining about his opinion

  • @kingslayerdamocles3019
    @kingslayerdamocles3019 2 роки тому +8

    Im all for presidents and people attempting to challenge things in court.

  • @kajsorensen5652
    @kajsorensen5652 2 роки тому +9

    sorry destiny, i disagree with you.

  • @harryb12993
    @harryb12993 2 роки тому +27

    AOC was absolutely unhinged and her statements on Jan 6th were wildly exaggerated.
    Feels unfaithful when Destiny defends her saying things like "you almost had me murdered."
    Never thought I'd be agreeing more with Lauren than Destiny.

    • @BenReillySpydr1962
      @BenReillySpydr1962 2 роки тому +4

      unhinged how?

    • @harryb12993
      @harryb12993 2 роки тому +12

      ​@@dreamshakejunya Because she was not even close to being murdered and accusing Ted Cruz implies an intention behind it. It is absolutely wild to say that he was trying to have her harmed in any way, let alone actually literally mudered.
      The rest of your comment was just virtue signalling.

    • @tcritt
      @tcritt 2 роки тому +1

      @@dogeatdog6157 "You're supposed to take her seriously, but not literally" lol.

    • @Kody_El_Durado
      @Kody_El_Durado 2 роки тому

      @@tcritt Trump's playbook?

    • @tcritt
      @tcritt 2 роки тому

      @@Kody_El_Durado It's what that unhinged Dilbert artist said about Trump when he was debating someone on whether Trump was competent. He said it in response to quotes of his ridiculous rhetoric and lies. Trumpists parrotted it for years.

  • @shalomoneal
    @shalomoneal 2 роки тому +21

    At 16:40 the Response to Destiny should have been "It would depend on WHY."

    • @thereddrob
      @thereddrob 2 роки тому +1

      the attempted assassination of a supreme court justice seems like a good analogy to bring in here. Is Lauren "tweeting every fuckin day for the next 3 months" or has she made "15 youtube videos on this historic takeover" in response? Nope

    • @Channel-23s
      @Channel-23s 2 роки тому +4

      Yes and no as noble causes can lead to bad events which were not the preferred situation such as the protests that lead to 3-4 months of riots even more Wild was people saying it was a protest while things are on fire

    • @chrisjohnson-tn3gl
      @chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 роки тому

      @@Channel-23s "fiery but mostly peaceful".
      (btw 2 billion worth of damage to the property of everyday people, thousands of police officers injured, 30 people killed by rioters
      hundreds of officers injured that may weekend in dc alone, along with the fire at st johns church, and the fire set to the white house itself, and many other fires in the city, and injury to 60 secret service members. talk about an insurrection. never forget the weekend of may 29, 2020)

  • @jeffanderson1708
    @jeffanderson1708 Рік тому +1

    Lauren former-escort Boebert was tweeting their locations.

  • @Xontor23
    @Xontor23 2 роки тому +8

    Damn these two are adorable together

  • @Green-tf8uw
    @Green-tf8uw 2 роки тому +4

    I'm neither the first nor the last, I'm just some random schizo comment in a sea of comments and my life is just as irrelevant.

  • @chrisradtke3645
    @chrisradtke3645 2 роки тому +19

    Damn Lauren disembowled you Destiny. Calm down sweety.

    • @RApimp98
      @RApimp98 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed!

    • @ericstein8019
      @ericstein8019 2 роки тому +2

      Rage quit twice, gaslit tf out of destiny yeah no she didn’t win, and I’m excited for the rematch when destiny has receipts

  • @johnstarnes3731
    @johnstarnes3731 2 роки тому +9

    Aww destiny was so close to figuring it out with the trans stuff but he had to go back and turtle in the safety of orange man bad. Give him another 5 years and his testicles will drop the rest of the way.

    • @razzle_dazzle
      @razzle_dazzle 2 роки тому +1

      What does trans people in sports have to do with January 6th?

    • @johnstarnes3731
      @johnstarnes3731 2 роки тому

      @@razzle_dazzle they both signify how deragned the left is.

    • @razzle_dazzle
      @razzle_dazzle 2 роки тому

      @@johnstarnes3731 But why should your position on one affect your position on the other? And is it really deranged to think that January 6th was a big deal?

    • @johnstarnes3731
      @johnstarnes3731 2 роки тому

      @@razzle_dazzle because if you value the lefts opinion on anything you are just wrong. So if you side with them on one issue there's a good chance you are a mindless tool. And yes it is. Because it wasn't a big deal. It COULD have been. But it wasn't. Mountains out of molehills

    • @ericstein8019
      @ericstein8019 2 роки тому

      Why do you people always think destiny is on the verge of switching sides or “figuring something out” you get he’s even more supportive of the trans community now than ever before. Sure he doesn’t support integration in sports but he’s very pro HRT and srs even to kids…and is anti Florida school anti lgbt legislation

  • @TM-ig7ql
    @TM-ig7ql 2 роки тому +25

    Amazed he posted this video, Lauren destroyed him and Destiny just went mental

    • @TierDvik
      @TierDvik 2 роки тому +12

      Destiny still has his TDS active. He forgot to turn it off

    • @connor4169
      @connor4169 2 роки тому +12

      You’re subbed to Tim Pool. You’ve lost.

    • @TierDvik
      @TierDvik 2 роки тому +3

      @@connor4169 Oh how horrible for you that other people listen to someone you disagree with.. I am sorry to trigger you little one please give me a list of the approved people I can sub to that wont cause you to panic.

    • @connor4169
      @connor4169 2 роки тому +4

      @@TierDvik lol chill guy. Your copium is at max level. You and Lauren really make up your own realities hahah

    • @ericstein8019
      @ericstein8019 2 роки тому +5

      Nahhhhh Lauren looked pretty bad rage quitting twice, and believing “no evidence on hand now”= automatic win is cringe af. Destiny definitely pulled ahead here

  • @lobosolo7675
    @lobosolo7675 2 роки тому +24

    I like How Lauren moved the goal post from
    "Did AOC feel threatened on Jan. 6th" to "was AOC justified in saying ted cruz was trying to get you get her killed" (based off what he promoted) and she still lost.

    • @kdub3288
      @kdub3288 2 роки тому +1

      😂😂. Even after Destiny literally agreed with that statement?

    • @LMO1012
      @LMO1012 2 роки тому

      This is exactly why she’s so in bad faith.