How Did It Reach Viserys? Aegon’s Prophecy Explained p2 - House of the Dragon

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2022
  • How did's Aegon's prophecy make it all the way to Viserys - especially given the violence and chaos of Maegor's reign? I'll answer that, and tell you where House of the Dragon got the idea of a prophecy carved in runes on a Valyrian steel knife. Featuring Rhaena Targaryen, Alyssa Velaryon, Maegor the Cruel, Jaehaerys and Alysanne, King Aenys, and more.
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  • @ukotoa1639
    @ukotoa1639 Рік тому +192

    I fell like Ageon put the song in the knife as a contingency plan incase there wasn’t a Targaryen left in Westeros I like to think Ageon was smart enough to know that a Targaryen always on the throne isn’t a guarantee

    • @arianewinter4266
      @arianewinter4266 Рік тому +6

      the eldritch is amoung us, leave Fjord alone!

    • @alexiavya722
      @alexiavya722 Рік тому +16

      I mean he made the throne out of swords to remind his heirs that being lord of the seven kings is not a light task at all and will be extremely difficult to maintain. Completely reasonable based on the info we know of!

    • @apollosungod2819
      @apollosungod2819 Рік тому +6

      Not really... the idea of the Targaryens as Dragon lords and kings is that the other former kingdoms aka vassal states WILL attempt coup d'etat simply because of whomever "house" is in charge of ruling.
      By all accounts the Hightowers played a dirty game, both Otto and Alycent plus the Maesters as co-conspirators and hidden insurrectionists.
      Otto is giving poison to the king's ear to avoid the Velaryon princess while sneaking his daughter for some "alone time" with the king which if the man has a weak character, he'll end up busy whipped and taken over.
      The show does a far better and subtle job of portraying Alycent as this fake pawn that quickly turns into a Queen piece and just like Chess, she exploited the king's death to make her son the king and heir.
      Rheynera has a bad character habits but the fact is that there was definitely a conspiracy in place to make her have "less" siblings which would have avoided all the trouble up to that point.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Рік тому

      Or at least that many would die due to various reasons.

  • @nevaehaho61
    @nevaehaho61 Рік тому +30

    Lol just imagining Visenya cyberbullying Aegon over writing on paper is hilarious to me 😂 Seems like something she’d do. “Your guards are slow and stupid. Here, have a kingsguard you nerd.” “My kid might be passed out from the trial by combat but all your guys are dead, so there.” “C’mon Vhagar, let’s go torch some losers on our front lawn.”

  • @Matt-xc6sp
    @Matt-xc6sp Рік тому +93

    By leaving so many plot threads unfinished for so long I’ve seen some of the best close reading and textual analysis come out of ASOIAF. Yourself included. George RR Martin is the best English teacher in history.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +19

      He’s a great teacher no doubt. I’m immensely grateful

    • @Henbot
      @Henbot Рік тому +3

      One of the best, it isn't brand new what GRRM has done but if stuff comes out, and it all completely contradicts a lot of the analysis it is going to be a sting

  • @stephencombes1979
    @stephencombes1979 Рік тому +85

    I believe the Starks were told what was happening as they're the Northern Kings and would have to be involved in the fight. This is why a Targaryen was supposed to lead the fight and the Starks should always hold Winterfell ("There must always be a Stark at Winterfell"). In the end, it was a Stark that used the Targaryen knife to end the threat.

    • @vtaylor110
      @vtaylor110 Рік тому +14

      Agree with your comment, wish it would have been Jon or even Bran at least

    • @laurencerosenthalwinckler4439
      @laurencerosenthalwinckler4439 Рік тому +18

      @@vtaylor110 would be better if bran was controlling a parrot holding the knife in his beak to attack the night king than Arya 🤣 Arya had her own story far from this struggle.

    • @trueman.r.849
      @trueman.r.849 Рік тому +9

      So the stark knowledge of this pact died when Lord Richard and his heir Brandon died leaving the throne to Ned?

    • @stephencombes1979
      @stephencombes1979 Рік тому +6

      @@trueman.r.849 I think it's possible this knowledge died out further back, I don't think anyone alive knows why there must always be a Stark at Winterfell. Or what Winter could actually be referring to in the House words. Or truly why Torren knelt. If Ned's Father knew then it stands to reason he would have made this clear to the Mad King and everyone he spoke to when Aerys was making threats etc. And if this happened, then there would be no Robert's Rebellion as, although Robert would have been angry about losing Lyanna to another, he would have understood and might even have been part of any coup to put Rhaegar on the Iron Throne to ensure Lyanna's child became the Heir.
      Of course, it is also possible they knew this and this is why Rhaegar considered a coup against his Father, and why he felt he needed Aegon to be born to Lyanna Stark. A new pact of Ice and Fire designed to unite the Kingdoms and avoid Winter from overtaking them. But no one felt the need to let others know so the knowledge was lost after being passed down to each successive generation.

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому +2

      @@laurencerosenthalwinckler4439 And that way, Bran would have had at least _one_ thing to do during the fight.

  • @Henbot
    @Henbot Рік тому +18

    It is very interesting idea if that the message of Valyrian is present on many of their items because it means you could have a whole load of hidden history for them which maybe found in the books coming.

  • @gray7433
    @gray7433 Рік тому +45

    On the one hand, I like the prophecy and all it entails across the Targaryen dynasty, but on the other I want to flip a table over because Arya killed the Night King. It feels like being trolled by D&D all over again because for now and possibly ever, theirs is the only way Game of Thrones ends. The books ending differently might soothe my need for a better ending, but it won't be the ending I and many other people *saw* unless/until they remake it. Glad George is working with HotD and that they're listening to him. We could've had that all along.

    • @CHLOCHLOLP
      @CHLOCHLOLP Рік тому +3

      Just dont consider the original tv show adaptation cannon and it works.

    • @gray7433
      @gray7433 Рік тому +4

      @@CHLOCHLOLP just pretend you have a nose, it works. (This username was Voldemort once)

    • @Ittheyzezermeowpurr
      @Ittheyzezermeowpurr Рік тому +6

      The end of it is not cannon . They literally said they decided to do that back in the 3rd or so season. They said it was their idea , not George . It’s not the same story . It’s totally separate and that’s how you should think of it. Yea, Bran the king, Hodor and Shireen are going to be cannon , per George but that’s it. Theirs is not how it ends so don’t let them ruin it . They changed things on their own, not because it’s what is going to happen

    • @gray7433
      @gray7433 Рік тому +6

      @@Ittheyzezermeowpurr I know the books and show are different, but to be a fan of the show and watch them tank it was brutal. Thanks for the pep talk, but that doesn't change the way the show ended. I'd like to be allowed to be frustrated by it.

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому

      @@gray7433 Nice username. I bet it's lovely in the summer ☀️

  • @ericLpereira1989
    @ericLpereira1989 Рік тому +13

    Interesting. So it's really probable that the knowledge of the prophecy is greatly lost with the Dance of Dragons, and more still after Baelon the Bookburner, but Aerys I (perhaps the guy more obsessed with books and knowledge of all aSoIaF) manages to rediscover it. And then it would be him that passes it to the other Targaryens. However, could it be that there would be important pieces still missing that Aerys never found? Perhaps that would be why he was so obsessed. After him, looks like all the Targs know of the prophecy, but not before. Could it be that if Aerys had all the pieces he would also choose to limit more who gets to know it? If so, it would be quite strange if Viserys said everything there is to it in the show.

  • @cardboard2night
    @cardboard2night Рік тому +57

    Do you think Aemon told his daughter Rhaenys about prophecy? Since she was his heir (queen Alysenne called her "our queen to be"), and Aemon was told about prophecy from his father Jaehaerys... Could that be why she didn't protest much about Viserys succession? She doesn't want Targaryen civil war cause she knows that would be the end of Targaryens and subsequently the world. Would be funny if Daemon was the only one who didn't know XD

    • @dhavaldesai6202
      @dhavaldesai6202 Рік тому +5

      No because aemon was never crowned i think once you get crowned you pass down the prophecy I like to see if rahnerya will pass down if she takes the throne

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +26

      I have wondered about Rhaenys. She could very well know. And that could be why Viserys didn’t tell Daemon - he knew someone else had the secret if he died.

    • @cardboard2night
      @cardboard2night Рік тому +3

      @@dhavaldesai6202 you think it's only past down from the crowned king to his heir? 🤔

    • @cardboard2night
      @cardboard2night Рік тому +5

      @@DavidLightbringer yeah, it kinda strange that Viserys never told his brother - the show has deleted scene with them where Viserys attempts to tell Daemon about it right after Aema's death but ultimately decides not too, but it was before he heard about "hair for a day" and names Rhaenyra his heir - which would contradict the whole importance of the prophecy, not to mention the world ending. Unless he knew that someone else in their family already knew about it. By the way if I spelled any Targaryen name wrong I'm sorry, but I'm kinda tired of googling and spell checking them x)

    • @TSmith-yy3cc
      @TSmith-yy3cc Рік тому +4

      Maybe Viserys thought that Daemon would use it as justification to make a play for the throne as he considered himself one of the best warriors around.

  • @HubertHumphreyWasHere
    @HubertHumphreyWasHere Рік тому +13

    Crusader Chris also mentioned that maybe Aenys told Alyssa when he was near death, who then told Jaehaerys. Jaehaerys would’ve been too young to understand if Aenys or Aegon the Uncrowned told him. This is of course assuming that Maegor didn’t know, and if he did, not sure he’d tell anyone.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +7

      I think Aenys would have told Alyssa before then, but yeah by then for sure. But I’m guessing since Aegon told his sister wives, Alyssa and Rhaena would both have been told by their husbands

  • @stealth11
    @stealth11 Рік тому +10

    I've always wanted to see a series on Aegon's Conquest, but with the prominence they're now placing on his prophecy in the franchise it makes it even more intriguing for me. I didn't realize that 1899 was starting yet. I saw a promo for it months ago, so I'm glad you mentioned it in this video. Dark is one of my favorite TV shows of all time too.

  • @DreyM3
    @DreyM3 Рік тому +14

    Rhaena the icon!!! I do think it was her who passed down the knowledge, especially since she frequently reminds Jaehaerys she is the oldest and should have been the heir- might be a nod to Aenys telling her. Plus Dreamfyre is mommy to Dany's dragons and so many of the last generation of the dragons, and what do we need the dragons for? the prophecy! power to westerosi lesbians

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +8

      I hear ya! Rhaena is such an awesome character, she’s one of the biggest reasons to do a Maegor-to-Jaehaerys timeline at some point on HotD

    • @DreyM3
      @DreyM3 Рік тому +3

      @@DavidLightbringer you could have a whole special just on her iconic lines LOL

  • @Slechy_Lesh
    @Slechy_Lesh Рік тому +5

    If you didn't know, the Valyrian for 'song of ice and fire' is, roughly, "vāedar esh suvion sesīr perzys"

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +2

      Someone’s been on duolingo!

    • @Slechy_Lesh
      @Slechy_Lesh Рік тому +1

      A pleasant morning collecting beautiful words.

    • @SpiffierShindigs
      @SpiffierShindigs 15 днів тому

      This isn't quite an accurate translation. "Esh" is Mereeneese Valyrian.
      The proper translation is "Suvio perzō vāedar."

  • @sofialarsson9100
    @sofialarsson9100 Рік тому +18

    Yes! Every time someone mentioned about the difficulty of this knowledge being passed down because of Maegor, I've been like: RHAENA! RHAENA! RHAENA! During the weeks of the season's runtime I've thought about this way: Aegon, Aenys, Rhaena, Jaehaerys, Viserys and Rhaenyra. But that's a simple explanation. I never really thought about the possibility of more than one per generation learning about this, but of course they would! It's the end of the world of men we're talking about here!
    Thank you for these two videos! They have given a greater input in my thoughts about this!
    And btw, I think I sort of predicted that you would do videos about this very topic, since I could not hold myself from commenting about this stuff after watching the video about Daemon's song! (I guess I'm a bit of a dreamer myself! XD) If I've known beforehand I would have waited, but oh well... Done is done, I guess.
    But to summarize, it mostly was about the dreamers and their dragons outside of the prophecy thing! I think both Balerion and Dreamfyre prefer to bound with dragon dreamers, and that they share a special bound, that maybe the older of them two is the younger ones father or grandfather by blood lineage, and that it later leads to Daenerys's dragons, especially Drogon! And that he's the Balerion come again as well as Dany could be Daenys the Dreamer come again, since I think Daenys was the first rider to Balerion! Like Daenys, Daenerys is east when she should go west! Also, their names sound almost the same!
    Another thing I like to add, is the thought about Jaehaerys and Alysannes first kids and how they play sort of a part of ASOIAF! Their three first children were named Aegon, Daenerys and Aemon! Aegon died, and before Daenerys passed away as well she was the heir, although Jaehaerys rather liked the thought about Aemon being the heir which Alysanne didn't agree on since the girl was older. He did say however that she would be queen with her brother as king, and that they would rule together. But that was not to be. However, what if Jaehaerys saw a glimpse of the future, or maybe it was something Rhaena shared with him that made him think that an Aemon and Daenerys would rule together and uniting the realm once the drak times to come? And maybe an Aegon too will be in the mix? I'm one of those who thinks Jon Snow's real name is Aemon, and Aegon could be Young Griff, and Daenerys is well: Daenerys! This makes me think that Aegon/fAegon will die before the battle against the second coming of the long night! And that Daenerys could die in the battle, and if not, she would maybe die of something she gets sick off after the fact and later dies, leaving Jon/Aemon to become king in the end? Maybe he marries a Baratheon? Or will the connection of a Baratheon meeting a Targaryen be in form of Shireen's sacrifice somehow having to do with Jon's resurrection? I don't really know, but that's my thoughts at least right now!
    I'm quite well read when it comes to Fire and Blood and the main series, but not as much of what happens between, so it was really nice to watch the first video you did! Maybe I should revisit those chapters in AWOIAF and the Dunk and Egg stories, and maybe I can put together my own idea of what happened with Aegon the Conqueror's dream, among with other things!
    Love your content very much! There are so many things that align with my thoughts! Thank you! You're my favorite ASOIAF UA-camr!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +8

      Thank you! And yeah I’m a “Jon’s name is Aemon” fan as well. That’s a good observation about Jaehaerys’s kids, and yeah that fits what we expect from Jon and Dany and fAegon. Well done!

    • @sofialarsson9100
      @sofialarsson9100 Рік тому

      @@DavidLightbringer Thanks!

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому +1

      Holy cow, that's such a good point/interesting theory about F/Aegon, Dany and Jon. Yep, Jon's name is definitely 'Aemon'. No way it's 'Aegon'.
      You've really got me thinking now, and I love it! Thankyou for this amazing post 🫶🏻

    • @venuskllix1066
      @venuskllix1066 Рік тому +1

      I thougth Jon's name could be Visenar or something related to Visenya, but him playing as Aemon The Dragonknight as a kid + Maester Aemon and Rhaegar being close and now this, it makes sense.
      About the first three childs of The Conciliator, was a nice shoot. Aegon, Dany and Jon might die at the end and leave the throne to the Starks or Martells, or even apply the democratic triarchy of Volantis to Westeros? (random idea that came to my mind after reading Tyrion and Jorah's conversation in aDwD). The only problem is Jon being older than Daenerys, but may not matter.

  • @BlackstreetBoys2Men
    @BlackstreetBoys2Men Рік тому +5

    The Knifey-Spooney reference just makes me feel old because my first thought was “Will the kids even get the reference” 😂

  • @pauldaskal9510
    @pauldaskal9510 Рік тому +5

    Entirely from costume Great commentary on the rune blades and Elric!! Thanks David!

    • @pauldaskal9510
      @pauldaskal9510 Рік тому +2

      BTW love the musical interludes! You and your cousin need to get back at it! Also a huge Elric fanboy, I really dig how Moorcock Does the opposite of Martin and Tolkien by throwing everyrhing including the kitchen sink when using magic in his world!!

  • @Athenia
    @Athenia Рік тому +2

    Yeah, I always thought Tohren bent the knee a little too quickly. I think Aegon definitely told him about the prophecy-and maybe Tohren had his own too!

  • @willymo1729
    @willymo1729 Рік тому +7

    Good morning! Jaehaerys would have told him once he became the heir? That’s what I think.

  • @itsdodger1176
    @itsdodger1176 Місяць тому +1

    The idea of a lost civilisation that only wrote on weapons, and by reading the inscriptions on the scattered blades to get its history is honestly an awesome idea.

  • @mattsavino3226
    @mattsavino3226 Рік тому +2

    It would be so much fun to sit down and talk to Viserys about Valyrian lore

  • @lolsous
    @lolsous Рік тому +3

    I started watching Dark recently and could not be more happy that you recommended it! Very excited for 1899

  • @Mink-yu8nu
    @Mink-yu8nu Рік тому +3

    I've been looking forward to 1899. Dark was a big obsession for me too.

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc Рік тому +1

    Appreciate the shout-out to Australia's true national sport.

  • @lolsous
    @lolsous Рік тому +6

    I wonder why Viserys didn't tell Daemon about the prophecy though. Sure thematically it makes sense because it shows how Viserys didn't consider Daemon his true heir. But it seems like a illogical move, what if Viserys died suddenly before telling Rhaenyra, then that very important knowledge would be lost (at least for a time), and he must have been acutely aware of heirs/Kings suddenly dying because of recent family history. It would make sense that everyone in the royal family knew. Is there then something about Maegor knowing and thus feeling justified to make sure there was a "strong" Targaryen on the throne, that could have led to the secrecy?

    • @kandykane3265
      @kandykane3265 Рік тому +7

      I would guess Viserys told Aemma, just in case. Makes me wonder about the possibility that Rhaenys knew. She and her line were also contenders for the throne. Her father was the heir before he died, he could have told her. And if Viserys, Aemma, and Rhaenys knew, I can see Viserys being fine with not telling Daemon.

    • @alicecaraballo3910
      @alicecaraballo3910 Рік тому +2

      @@kandykane3265, I feel like maybe Viserys thought Daemon wasn't responsible enough to be trusted with such "vital information" as much as he loved him. And who knows, maybe he was specifically instructed to only pass the prophecy on to his heir and no one else. He obviously took it very seriously.

  • @staticdynamic1605
    @staticdynamic1605 Рік тому +3

    as always, love your content

  • @onemealatatime6741
    @onemealatatime6741 Рік тому +2

    Love to see it whenever one of your vids pops up

  • @Rhaenysxmeleys
    @Rhaenysxmeleys Рік тому +2

    Amazing video as always ❤️🐉👑

  • @elocc9570
    @elocc9570 Рік тому +2

    Thanks for all your content. Always a good day when we get more LML. ❤️

  • @moiraferreira
    @moiraferreira Рік тому

    As always, nice David.

  • @-AwaleAbdi-
    @-AwaleAbdi- Рік тому +2

    Little off topic but may I just say your art choices are always lovely, my man. **chef's kiss**

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 Рік тому +1

    Solid detective work. Great video DL.

  • @SingularMK
    @SingularMK Рік тому +1

    Good one

  • @MrEKnight
    @MrEKnight Рік тому +3

    “This is a Valyrian band, but THIS is a Valyrian STEEL band” 😂😂😂

  • @OniDasAlagoas
    @OniDasAlagoas Рік тому +3

    Hey, David. Great video as always. As I was reading fire and blood I was sure that Aegon I told Stark about his dream. Makes total sense and I am sure you will explore everything in your next video.
    In another note, is there any chance you can make a video explaining how to read Elric books and where to start?

  • @martinkrog5943
    @martinkrog5943 Рік тому +1

    You keep lining 'em up, Sir- we'll keep slamming them down :)
    Thanks
    and SKÅL !

  • @amandahugginkiss55
    @amandahugginkiss55 Рік тому +4

    Don't ever apologize for valaryan band jokes, please. I giggled a bit.

  • @cowboyoutlaw2444
    @cowboyoutlaw2444 Рік тому +4

    Wouldn't it be funny if Aegon the conq got dementia and demanded all of his valyrian possessions be inscribed with these runes. Then his sister wife's have to heat up all the blades and keep him on task. Then he keeps losing the important blades so he demands every normal blade to be melted into the iron throne but it has to be explained as this symbol of power instead of a solution for his dementia. Dementia is not funny at all but I think the scenario is quite comical.

  • @eliasholenhannouch807
    @eliasholenhannouch807 Рік тому +1

    Asking the questions we all have been thinking about, way to go LML! :D

  • @saminator3563
    @saminator3563 Рік тому +1

    Bruh, that Simpsons in Australia reference hahaha. Live here so such a funny reference. Can confirm they sound like that and its most favourite game

  • @almab6875
    @almab6875 Рік тому +1

    Omg! I have to work but just came across this new video of LML!

  • @illmatic_mg
    @illmatic_mg Рік тому +2

    Great stuff as usual Mr Lightbringer! You mentioned in one of your HotD dragon videos about possibly doing a video on Rhaena Targaryen. Any chance that could happen in the near future?

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, if by near future you mean “some time in the next several months.” I don’t really plan ahead much

    • @illmatic_mg
      @illmatic_mg Рік тому +1

      @@DavidLightbringer 😄 Sounds good to me. She is one of the most fascinating Targs and the potential links with her in this video got me wanting more Rhaena 🤙🏼

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому

      @@illmatic_mg Yes! Defs need a Rhaena video 💭💤 🌨

  • @WatashiMachineFullCycle
    @WatashiMachineFullCycle Рік тому +1

    LOL coming out strong with the jokes LML thanks for making my morning

  • @ronaldrotondo3615
    @ronaldrotondo3615 5 місяців тому

    There should be a series on Aegons conquest!!

  • @jackelinevalladares7118
    @jackelinevalladares7118 Рік тому

    With this fantastic content, my only wish now is to watch a series about Aegon's Conquest (maybe HOTD will become an anthology later?). Watching it and getting the full story watching Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes and the original trio... I may rest in peace.🐲

  • @tylercruse2402
    @tylercruse2402 Рік тому +1

    Top of the Morning!

  • @Jawn15
    @Jawn15 Рік тому +1

    I quote knifey spoony all the time. Amazing!

  • @cheyennem9218
    @cheyennem9218 Рік тому +8

    Crown looks damn good on Rhaena

  • @gregzane6416
    @gregzane6416 Рік тому +2

    Does the three-eyed crow "Bloodraven" know about this prophecy? It would be interesting if Dark Sister has these glyphs as well. I know there is Cats Paw already but that is too far away from Bran right now.

  • @johnnysmall
    @johnnysmall Рік тому +1

    hell yea that shirt is fire 🔥

  • @CaprichoHorns
    @CaprichoHorns Рік тому +1

    I wish I could afford to pay your rent and food expenses so u can upload videos more often. As a single nerd mom I live for these.
    Regards from the Mexico borderlands.

  • @user-ln7jw2qn6h
    @user-ln7jw2qn6h Рік тому +4

    Rhaena = Reyna (my last name)
    8:41 Who will snag Dark Sister from Blood Raven's cave?

  • @joebryant2349
    @joebryant2349 Рік тому +1

    This may have been your best intro ever😂

  • @JoaquinMusterman
    @JoaquinMusterman Рік тому +1

    nice

  • @joelittle7808
    @joelittle7808 Рік тому +1

    Slight tangent on the weapons (and ...horns) with glyphs/runes on them, there's 2 others in the story I think fly under the radar but are worth keeping an eye on. The red bronze ceremonial dagger Mirri Maz Duur uses. It's not the ceremonial design of it I think people miss. It's that it shows up again in Volantis in the Merchant's House on the table of gifts for the widow, right before Penny attacks Tyrion. The 2nd weapon is Ilyn Payne's 3rd sword which is covered in oddly magic related details. Not only is the blade covered in runes but It's pommel is a dragonglass skull with rubies for eyes. I'm not sure I trust that...silent murderer whose described as looking like the medieval representation of the grim reaper, huh that could be noteworthy also 🤔

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому

      Oooh, those are interesting tidbits. I hope those weapons come into play

  • @staytuned2L337
    @staytuned2L337 Рік тому +2

    New content?! Alright, Alright, Alright!!

  • @laylaazmigoushey5812
    @laylaazmigoushey5812 Рік тому +1

    Great video. Re: 1899 - Which Thursday?

  • @forcesmuggler7667
    @forcesmuggler7667 Рік тому +1

    I'm willing to bet it gets passed on from Rhaenyra to Alicent to Aegon III, at least in the show. Rhaenyra knows it, asks Alicent why she crowned Aegon II when King's Landing is taken, the truth of Viserys' last words come out, Aegon III becomes King, and Alicent is held prisoner until her death. Or being lost until Bloodraven finds out about it. Hey, what if Aegon IV knew about it, and told Daemon, which led to the Blackfyre Rebellions?

    • @made-line7627
      @made-line7627 Рік тому

      Interesting points, and they make a lot of sense. Definitely feeling it with Aegon IV and Daemon Blackfyre!

  • @markpjf85
    @markpjf85 Рік тому +3

    I do believe it through dreams and stories because Targaryen is always read books

  • @g_wylde
    @g_wylde Рік тому +4

    I've heard that Jaehaerys and Alysanne were staying in Dragonstone with Visenya herself when Maegor was king. So maybe Visenya told them about the prophecy, since she clearly knew. I just wish Viserys had told Rhaenyra (us) that he'd heard it from Jaehaerys himself, as that is the most likely scenario, but it'd have been easy and very cool to have him mention where he heard it from.

  • @lizardbreathh
    @lizardbreathh Рік тому +1

    Ooh I just started watching 1899 I was syked when I saw that the creators of Dark made it!

  • @Valkanna.Nublet
    @Valkanna.Nublet Рік тому

    "This is a valyrian steel band"
    I was expecting some music after that comment :)

  • @antjestube8774
    @antjestube8774 Рік тому +1

    The top 5 reasons are top 😄

  • @louiscassis3426
    @louiscassis3426 Рік тому +1

    Of course, the one ring also had fire activated runes.

  • @made-line7627
    @made-line7627 Рік тому +1

    Gods, I can't believe "Bart vs. Australia" is almost 30 years old 🔪🥄

  • @alexandergangaware429
    @alexandergangaware429 Рік тому

    QUEEN Rhaenys, thank you

  • @illmatic_mg
    @illmatic_mg Рік тому +2

    Baelor the BUZZKILL

  • @vtaylor110
    @vtaylor110 Рік тому +1

    I wish we could get the first men Prequel, then it leads up to Aegon conquest

  • @markpjf85
    @markpjf85 Рік тому +3

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there was magic sign were Involved with writing these Scriptures on swords and scrolls 😊

  • @T.GLongstaff
    @T.GLongstaff 4 місяці тому

    Visenya seemed like the type to make fun of her little brother for writing stuff down. She seems like she would call Aegon a dork, a nerd, a geek, a poindexter among other hurtful names. Aegon’s other wife would have never said any of those mean hurtful things but Maegors mom? She’s a different type of person.

  • @Raykowojo
    @Raykowojo Рік тому

    Damnit I just woke up I’m 3 hours late

  • @SciEntertainment
    @SciEntertainment Рік тому +1

    Always glad to hear the word >chode< in a sentence :D and sure I won't be one - but if we still talk Show (which I abandoned at s5 but still know what happened) - Arya being The One remains nonsensical smh

  • @WeirwoodNet
    @WeirwoodNet Рік тому +1

    Do you think they could retcon the night king death and keep prophecy still in place when john snow show comes around ? Its little bit weird I found that house of dragon is showing the prophecy and now that dunk and egg is been aired which directly involves the prophecy as well.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому

      yep, for sure. or maybe NK ain’t shit, it’s Night QUEEN that you gotta fear

    • @WeirwoodNet
      @WeirwoodNet Рік тому

      @@DavidLightbringer yeah possible with night queen. Think HotD season 2 going alot in prophecy as well when will get to go to winterfell and with the dragon eggs theory

  • @tanakeilidh384
    @tanakeilidh384 Рік тому +1

    Yay!

  • @kellyjohnson768
    @kellyjohnson768 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if the secret ever got passed down to Light Skinned Larry Targaryen or Rick James Targaryen

  • @lucyfaire1980
    @lucyfaire1980 Рік тому

    The only problem with the whole "prophecy" thing is, that, the last 4 seasons of GoT are still considered to be cannon. I think that silently, the current show runners, are trying to reference the (soon to be released?) book and NOT the show. At least I that is my hope...

  • @stealingtomorrowband
    @stealingtomorrowband Рік тому

    So what i would like to know is why they out that on the knife but when we see it in GOT you don't see that shit. I know they wanted to be different but I'd like to know if it got wore off over the years? Or is the catspaw in GOT is a replica

    • @alicecaraballo3910
      @alicecaraballo3910 Рік тому

      I'm thinking when we see the dagger in GoT, no one knows that holding it to the fire will reveal the song of ice and fire inscribed on the blade. How would they possibly know to look for it? Assuming it's the same knife.

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc Рік тому

    Makes sense that a people renown for incinerating anything and anyone in their way with dragon fire would record information that they say as important on something fire-proof... There were probably Valyrian steel calendars with partner's birthdays and anniversaries on it before the Doom.

  • @TheDallas2
    @TheDallas2 Рік тому

    What animal is the horn from? Dragon maybe?

  • @adamcain8949
    @adamcain8949 Рік тому +1

    Knifey-Spooney!

  • @chrismorel8613
    @chrismorel8613 Рік тому

    In the warhammer fantasy universe, the dwarfs judge humans as idiotic because they entrust their knowledge to parchment and paper. Things that decay, rather then "proper" "respectable" materials for knowledge storage like stone or metal. So maybe banging it on a blade wasn't so stupid after all.

  • @Jacaerys4life
    @Jacaerys4life Рік тому +4

    Maegor the Wise did NOT start any wars. He defended his ungrateful family from being slaughtered by religious zealots.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +2

      You’re intentionally misreading the books for fun and I won’t stop you but this isn’t a serious opinion

    • @Jacaerys4life
      @Jacaerys4life Рік тому +4

      @@DavidLightbringer No I'm not. The Faith Militant Uprising started rebelling against Aenys because he wed Rhaena to Aegon. Maegor had long been in Exile at this point. The faith had Rhaena and Aegon trapped in a siege somewhere before Visenya decided she had to bring Maegor out of exile to save their family. The rebellion was already going very bad before Maegor even got involved

  • @mahaSAMatman7043
    @mahaSAMatman7043 Рік тому

    @lml A circuit recently connected in my brain. In the book Addam & Alyn are highly implied to be Corlys’, but we also know that Valaryons are not, & never were dragon riders. Do you have an answer for this, other than the obvious & trite. It feels like there’s something there

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому

      There’s also that bit about Cannibal flying by Corlys’s funeral. The Velaryons have distant Targ blood but no I don’t have an exact answer for Adam. Perhaps they are Laenor’s from when he was trying to “go straight?”

    • @mahaSAMatman7043
      @mahaSAMatman7043 Рік тому

      @@DavidLightbringer I try not to superchat cause I can’t really afford it, but let me say how damn much, I appreciate, specifically, that you almost always answer my question or comment. U R cool. Of course I considered the obvious first, I discount it ’cause… TWICE? And a complete fail with Rhaenyra?

  • @walkerjm911
    @walkerjm911 Рік тому +1

    Rune meteors!!!

  • @danishtasteele9272
    @danishtasteele9272 Рік тому

    Tyty

  • @brittanyofhouseblackwood
    @brittanyofhouseblackwood Рік тому

    "All paper in Valyria was made of Valyrian steel" 😂... imagine finding an ancient Valyrian artifact covered in runes, and you spend time trying to figure out what it says, only to find it's just someone's discarded shopping list!

  • @klauds9196
    @klauds9196 Рік тому +1

    😮 See you at 1899!

  • @louiscassis3426
    @louiscassis3426 Рік тому +2

    Stargaryen or Tarstark?

  • @tylermathis3840
    @tylermathis3840 Рік тому

    Yo, late ass comment, but I bet the targaryens rediscovered the legend when one of them had the dagger reworked or repaired and the blade was heated

  • @merry_morgana
    @merry_morgana Рік тому +2

    There was something written on Ice! Something important! But we'll never know.

    • @merry_morgana
      @merry_morgana Рік тому +2

      Aegon and Torrhen would have taken the opportunity to make another fail-safe.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +2

      “Aegonsdream(1).pdf”

    • @ericLpereira1989
      @ericLpereira1989 Рік тому +1

      Yeah...perhaps...however, if there was, woudn't the person(s) who melted it to make Oathkeeper and Widow's Wail notice it and at least mention it to Tywin, who could mention to others?

    • @merry_morgana
      @merry_morgana Рік тому +1

      @@ericLpereira1989 Tobho Mott probably can't read Old High Valyrian.

    • @ericLpereira1989
      @ericLpereira1989 Рік тому +1

      @@merry_morgana Problably. However, since he learned in Qohor, the only place the holds knowledge of how to work valyrian steel if I recall correctly, it would seem there are good chances he (and Qohor smiths) does know how to read it. Actually, even if it was a matter of secrecy among Qohor smithing, I imagine that there would be several attempts to work valyrian steel on forges throught history on many places. If it's normal to have runes on then, it would problably be known. 🤔

  • @SmoteMyRuin
    @SmoteMyRuin Рік тому

    🖤🤘🐉🔥

  • @carolinamartins4439
    @carolinamartins4439 Рік тому

    Damon doesnt seem to know about the profecy. Isn't that odd?

  • @Ms.Byrd68
    @Ms.Byrd68 Рік тому

    That's alot of assumptions to make especially when we all heard the king tell his daughter that the 'Prophecy' is passed from _heir to heir_ *AND* we now know he didn't tell Daemon.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +1

      That’s a show canon detail only, and in any universe, Aegon told his sisters

    • @Ms.Byrd68
      @Ms.Byrd68 Рік тому +1

      @@DavidLightbringer Your talking about the show. It is just as possible that an HEIR (or two or three) didn't get the word to pass it on. Maegor the Cruel didn't seem to care about the 'prophesy' if he knew it. How many more of these 'Heirs' came to the throne as children? I'm sure as a 'book reader' you would know...

  • @LSK1
    @LSK1 4 місяці тому

    ☄️☄️☄️☄️

  • @faisalkamal4319
    @faisalkamal4319 Рік тому +2

    No balerion don't eat that paper
    Damn visenya making fun of nerds

  • @marcfrancisteodoro7720
    @marcfrancisteodoro7720 Рік тому +1

    Rhaena was Jahaerys sister, not aunt.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  Рік тому +1

      Correct, I put a caption in but yeah I botched it the first time

  • @usakrana8871
    @usakrana8871 Рік тому

    Considering no targaryen peacefully held the realm, a dream of a the entirety of westeros gathered as one following one leader againts a true would be a promising vision if you ask me.

  • @leoneil316
    @leoneil316 Рік тому

    I don't get why they'd keep it a secret. It's not like prophecies are unknown in the world. It seems more like everyone except the Faith of the Seven, Drowned God, and Old Gods have them.

  • @stevemt2013
    @stevemt2013 Рік тому +1

    lmao. "Chode".

  • @devoleno
    @devoleno Рік тому +1

    Rad

  • @andrzejkopalnia
    @andrzejkopalnia Рік тому +1

    900 likes! We can do better!!! ✊

  • @pherasabraxas
    @pherasabraxas Рік тому +2

    Also, he didn't trust the bards to sing the prophecy because all bards are spoony. Everyone knows that.