I bought a fake '66 Fender Jazzmaster!
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- Опубліковано 27 жов 2020
- The story of how I came to acquire my fake '66 Fender Jazzmaster!
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I lay awake at night wondering: if someone told Leo Fender our concept of a "partscaster" being different from a real fender guitar, would he even understand that? He designed them to be partscasters 😎 Cool story.
yes totally!
My 80s les paul turned out to be a 50s lol
What!! Now that is a score!!
Do tell
Where is the video, because Fortnite content is not that compelling
@@shckltnebay lol
And this is why you should be informed when buying vintage instruments. If you’re not willing to take the time to educate yourself - FIND SOMEONE WHO IS!! It’ll be worth your money for what is ultimately an investment piece.
if your guitar could talk, it'd be screaming out to be taken back to candy apple, fulfil its wishes
Thanks bro :)
Pre-CBS body and a post-CBS donor neck. All’s well that ends well. Congrats! 🎸
Yeah totally crazy!!
Ah man, I can see why you’d want to restore the red finish but it looks killer in natural!
Thanks I agree, gonna have to think about this one!!
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 If this helps at all I'm subscribed to a lot of other Gear channels, and I found out one of the factory standard colors for the Jazzmaster in '59 was Candy Apple Red!
@@johnboy26769 no way! I thought in 59 the standard color was only sunburst with other colors available through custom order, in which case fender would get the lacquer from the ford factory next door. This limited certain colors to be available from specific years based of the car colors available. Burgundy mist metallic (my favorite fender color) was available for special order in 59 if my memory is correct, so something more popular like candy apple red would have likely been as well. But if they offered other colors in the standard line straight from the factory, that is rad to learn about! Time to go do some digging :)
Edit: it appears you are right. Candy apple red was a standard color on the jazzmaster range in 1959. 3 color sunburst, Olympic white, Sherwood green (another favorite of mine), black, and Dakota red were also available. Those must have been really popular car colors of the time.
I think the neck is a lot cooler than what would have been on a pre-CBS Jazzmaster.
Candy Apple Red was available only as a custom color, so that body has a seriously interesting history that we can only speculate over.
All in all, the mystique of that guitar is truly something to behold and it honestly sounds like you've got something really special.
Thanks dude certainly has added to her magic!
Dakota Red came on the 60's JMs
nice one.. I so relate to this story, I rescued a 59 body that has a 62 Strat neck that was in pieces. It was found in pieces stuck away in the back of someones garage amongst oily rags and a bunch of other stuff. All the electronics were inside a shoe box. Had been given a really horrid paint job with quite literally orange PVA paint. I asked if I could try to put it all together and see if it worked and was told by the owner that if I could make it work that I could have it - challenge accepted!! I stripped it down to natural wood and found that at some point it had been butchered somewhat as they had gouged out a piece of the body to connect a wire from the volume pot to the bridge post, apparently that resolved an earthing issue that used to cause a bit of a hum. Anyway, got a nice piece of ash to cut a wedge and fit it in the gap., sanded down and sealed with a clear, did a refret. Has the tortoise shell scratch plate and I have had this guitar for about 40 years now.. it is old, a beauty and a real partscaster. I suppose for me the real part of all of this is not so much about how original or how old the guitar is (although it helps) but actually how it makes you feel when playing it.. ;-)
wow, amazing story ... what a find!!!! Glad you restored it :)
Interesting story but im glad you didn’t get a fake one is just that it’s more vintage than you expected haha
Haha sorry for the clickbait title, still I thought it was a fun story 🙂
I have a similar story on my 1965. It was candy apple red but was painted black at some point. The pickups, pots, and neck all date to 1965, but it has later F-style tuners and a 68 neck plate. I refinished it in sonic blue and I love it.
nice dude ... love somic blue
i mean, the reason why fender chose bolt on necks were because if one gets damaged/frets wore out, you'd just swap the neck for a newer one.
LOL this emotional rollercoaster is all too relatable. What a great find for you!!
Thanks so much :)
Now that's a tale with a very happy ending...or at least the beginning of an even more curious story with an even happier ending to come!
Very good detecting skills bro, the only question I have is to the other musicians and players here:-
"How long will it be before some of those 'modded' Fenders, Squiers and De Armond guitars and basses become almost untraceable, history-wise, and another instrument detective finds a Squier neck on a 70s Precision or Jazz Bass body?"
...before any of you say it couldn't happen, check out the Facebook groups for modders and general owners of the various 'Fender' produced instruments. There you'll find some amazing finds, not quite as unique as your fine Jazz Master maybe, but the number of vintage Leo/CBS/Matsumoko built guitars, and in particular their basses, seems to be on the increase...possibly due to original owners selling off items they no longer want or use as they get older, or as most likely due to the owner passing away and family members not knowing full histories of work done, mods etc, and either giving away to friends of the family or younger members of said family who later trade or sell it for one of Fenders newer and shinier models.
P.S. sorry for waffling on, I restore and sell basses for a living so find this video particularly interesting, I'm a massive fan of the Jazz Master/Jaguar line of guitars and basses. I own four as my personal basses and occasionally when I'm parts hunting I come across Fender bodies on Squier necks...and vice versa, Fender customshop vintage 60s pickups in Squier Affinity basses too, and so on.
Keep up the good work young man, you have my undivided attention now :-)
Definitely think it's worth a full restoration You wouldn't want to do that to one from early on that was all original, but this one is a stripped partscaster so it won't compromise the value, and may well increase it. It very likely was originally Candy Apple Red, which makes it the more likely that the body is from a little later than 1960. Fender has always offered custom colors, but up until about 1962 they were available only by special order. My vote is for Candy Apple Red on the body, with a full refin (with a new period-correct decal) on the neck so you can have a matching headstock.
Exactly - cool guitar to own and play, so the "value" is very personal... unfortunately, in it's current state, there won't be much demand from a vintage/collector standpoint (or be priced accordingly).
Yes Jarvis! I've had the pleasure of hearing this guitar live a number of times. It's an absolute tone machine. The guy playing it helps too ...nice one dude. Loving the vids.
Ah... Hey big man, good to see you here. Thanks a bunch ...hope you're well ... ❤️❤️
Dude, I enjoyed your story very much. Congrats on the find. Very Cool.
Jazzmasters seem to be infamous for these kinds of mix ups. I had a misterious one myself a couple years back. It was a 68 with all 68 appointments but the neck was stamped 65. So I suppose the unfinished but stamped neck was sitting somewhere for three years.
Oh, and mine was ex-CAR as well.
Super interesting! Mike is a total hero. From what I know CAR wasn't a custom colour option until 1963, but there is such thing as a factory refinish. And I have a feeling that sending a guitar back to Fender for a new neck wasn't entirely uncommon, so it makes sense that it doesn't have the original neck.
That said, who knows the journey of both neck and body between 66' and 01'!
i think it looks really cool with just the unfinished plain wood like that, especially with a black pickguard and white controls, pickup covers.
You're a great Storyteller! Keep it up.🐾🎸
Ah, thanks so much
wow thats such a cool story and Mike is the perfect guy to work with figuring it out
yes, an absolute legend
Bloody cool. It's definitely an early tort guard period '59 body which had 10 screws. The dowled screw hole near the jack gives it authenticity. Fantastic find. The neck looks great.
Thanks bro .. incrdible really!!!
I think its beautiful the way it is now! You have made it this way throughout the years. If you change anything, it may not seem the same anymore. I found this thru Instagram, glad I did. Great story, and channel. I'll be watching from now on!
Ah thanks buddy, yes its a tough decision and i love its patina but something about the CAR finish!! Thanks so much for following
Man that was a crazy find! All those years playing it and never really knew you had a possible goldmine. Im surprised though the refin guy didn't catch this. Peace!
Yea me too, really surprised he didn't see or say anything ?!!
Safe to say this is pre 62 body because thimbles (body inserts for bridge) have thicker rings that sticks out of body. This changed in 62 with introduction of jaguar which has the same bridge but has a string mute which would not fit with the pre 62 thimbles. Fender simply started making them thinner for both guitars so they don't need to produce 2 versions of the same part. Based on that I would guess both black bobbin pickups and trem must be indeed originals from earliest runs. What I would be skeptical about is the candy apple red being the original color. I think fender didn't spray color under bridge pickup as it was a place where they were putting serial number on a body - I would guess that might have been some earlier refinish. I would actually guess that the candy apple red and the neck and pickguard swap might have happen together. Maybe owner at the time might have been into the color but also wanted to have binding and big inlays to go with it. I think these modifications together would make it more modern looking in late sixties, early 70s which might have been the point of these.
Hmm interesting theories, thanks for your insights ... Much appreciated
don't restore to candy apple red!
My guess is Andy's were going to strip and restore it, then went into liquidation and the wrong neck was thrown on so it was sold as a '66 and not a '59. The timing of 2001 was when they were in one or three liquidations. At times the shop was being run by people employed by the receivers.
One thing I hate to mention, but a lot of guitars taken in for refinish and repair by Andy's were sold off by either Andy or the receivers (depending on who you talk to) hopefully this isn't the case here.
Interesting thanks for the info.. I got someone else to strip the guitar
I just found your channel and when I saw it on Instagram I thought the pickup hole was filled with some type of candy apple red candy and I was so confused. I'll definitely be staying with your channel for a while
Yeah it's been confusing! Thanks for following me bro I super appreciate it
Love the story! I don’t know that much about Jazzmasters. I’m more of a crazy Fender Mustang freak, I have a 64 Mustang in Dakota red. But as far as I know candy apple red was a custom order colour so it could have actually been the original finish even. Those custom colours were based on Cadillac colours which I think is pretty cool. So maybe what you have is a parts Jazzmaster but very real, maybe it’s a 59 or early 60’s custom order candy apple red but with a 66 neck. Whatever the case, it’s a very nice Jazzmaster!
Absolutely beautiful wood grain, If i were to refinish it I would go with navy blue!
Renegade!!!
Could it be possible that it had a damaged neck, was sent back to Fender during the years of bound & block neck options, and the owner requested to upgrade to such a neck and similar era finish? That would make sense for a bound neck with a candy red body.
The next things to try would be to lift the brass shielding inside to inspect for previous over-spray, as well as apply some acetone to the red and see if it's actual nitro.
Maybe I guess .... Im pretty sure the Red is Nitro and old but cant be sure... I could sdand down to look for a date mark
@Jarvis Guitar I read somewhere that the original Candy Apple Red was done with a gold flake underspray for a year or two until they changed it to silver. This might help you narrow down when it was painted. Cheers.
Nice info thanks
Nice Dansette Conquest Auto in background, got the same record player, along with a red 58 Major too.
Eagle eyes! It's my wife's actually!! Sounds great
That’s so cool👍 glad u came out on top!
Thanks bro
Cool story Jarvis.
A restoration video or even series would be neat :)
Cool video. I have a 1975 Jazzmaster with a black pickguard. The black ones were produced until 1980. So you probably have a mid 70s pickguard, it looks authentic with the metallic underside.
nice, thanks for the info
Loved this video! Congrats man.
Thanks Alex
So glad theres a happy ending!💙
I was gutted for you.
Such beautiful guitars.im getting my 1st Jazzmaster in January.
American professional or fender Ultra
Not sure yet.but I'm preety set its gonna be a JM🤘
Nice check Mike Adams channel link in description...he's the Jazzmaster Yoda ...
Brilliant story with a great ending
I soon as I saw the old tweed case I as wondering if it was older than you thought it was. A 66 would have a black tolex case. Too bad the neck is gone, those clay dot jazz masters are the best looking in my opinion. But the bound/ block inlayed 66 are cool too
Case was from another guitar apparently..but maybe it wasn't in the end??!! Who know? I agree clay dots look dope but I love the blocks
Cool guitar and cool story .. its actually more common than you might think when it comes to offsets as they were never really considered collectable throughout the 90's. I have a similar story in reverse .. but first .. quick question .. did the case come with the guitar ? Because that is an early jazzmaster style case? Brown with gold lining would suggest 59/60. Then moved to Brown with red/orange before getting to the the black cases (via the white ones). Clearly you can't use a case to date a guitar but if you have a 59 body that came with a 59 case the evidence adds up. I'm sure you know already but the tuners are changed on that neck as they would have been f plate tuners .. you can just about see the holes on the back of the headstock. Also what's the neck plate as that would help ... I'm guessing its a F plate CBS version if they sold it as a 66?
As I say my story is in reverse ... I bought my first jazzmaster form a London vintage store (remaining nameless at this point) but not Denmark street in 1992. They had about 10 refinished Jazzmasters / Jags that had just come in from the US .. I played them all but left this crappy refinished red ish pink jazzmaster until the end. Picked it up .. played one chord and bought it straight away. It was sold to me as a fin 64/65 ... the L series neck plate and the decals suggested so. They offered a service to bring the guitar back 4 weeks later for a setup, which I did ... when I went to pick it up they tried to buy it back from me because how much they liked the neck ... I was already in love with it so said no. I had no idea what it was .. played it throughout the 90's. I then got into vintage guitars at a later date .. realised that the neck on this one I had owned for year was a pencil date 1961 slab board. I figured that it was most likely to have been refinished at Fender in 65 as Fiesta Red hence the plate and the decal but that had a body refinish again later in the 80's (the crap red / pink one ... the headstock always looked right though). While I've taken apart all the 100% original offsets I have since owned I've never bothered taking apart my first one to date the body ... I suspect like you ... when I bought it it was cool to be a vintage guitar but it was just a guitar that I used in my band ... its nice to guess at the history but the end of the day it won't change what it means to me as it was my number one for years. My guess is yours is a 59/60 and had the neck changed in 66 instead of a refret (which is what Leo intended you to do) and like a lot of offsets got messed around with over the years with finish / pickguards tuners etc. Could have been refinished CAR at that point too as that was the most popular custom colour at that point so not crazy to think ... I agree with many others that it was most likely sunburst originally.
I have to say ... love this stuff!
was this before or after you put the mastery bridge on it? the one that looks like a violin :)
Basically this all happened this weekend, I put the Mastery on and then started watching some videos about Jazzmaster s
Thats a great ending and cool guitar. Crazy someone got rid of the candy apple though!
Yeah a checkered past!!!
Went from...”Oh crap” to “ Hey good days” Great story mate. Turned out good 😎👍
Dude, this video was awesome! I saw your Tiktok post about it being fake and was gutted for you. I know how that feels. But this an awesome ending 😂 I hope this video blows up
Ah thanks so much for coming over
Really enjoyed the story!
thanks so much
They probably saw only the neck and didnt looked deeper in the body like "oh look another cbs era one" great for you 😄
I would honestly keep it in that stripped wood finish with all dings and dents 🤩
Cant believe they didnt pick up in the bridge tho!
Thanks for the rollercoaster ride :-)
Thanks for watching
Shopping for vintage guitars in Denmark Street was your first mistake. Those Music Ground chumps were probably involved.
Well it turned out to be a good mistake
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 yeah man!
I seen a dead giveaway, right away. These always had a filled nail hole just adjacent to the low E tuner on the back of the headstock. It's missing on this one !
Not sure about that tbh, I'm no expert. No reason to think the neck is fake ... It's stamped and clearly very old
that's not fake, that's fantastic
haha thanks .. sorry clickbait title!
What about the number on the neck plate ? is it '66 correct ? Long time ago I had a '65 (13 DEC 65B) with bound neck also but still dots, all original, sanded too, natural refin(previously sunburst) with tortoise pickguard, and patent numbers on the bridge. Its serial was 116204. A few years later, I saw it again for sale in a shop in Paris, I knew it was mine because of every known dings, and bad refret job. And...when I looked at the back, it had a 204XXX number, the plate had been changed probably for a strat or a tele that was worth more ! It was in 1985...
wow crazy ... no neck plate number im afraid
Based on the title I expected a much worse outcome, crazy story! Is the only thing dating this to '59 the pots? If so, is it possible that those could be after-market?
That plus raised thimbles and plugged screw holes... The pot is unlikely to be swapped out but u never know I guess?
Crazy story. I'd assemble it and leave it be I like how it looks. When I thought it was fake I was thinking somebody did a GREAT relic job. That stuff really looks old. :)
Sorry for the clickbait title!
Whoamy mate n i just searched him down a candy red jazzmaster Japanese but i am think cost wise it must be a shock to the system going from mid to thinking low to thinkin high value . God bless a good fender . There is nothing better than when u crack up on that case for the first time
:)
You can lift the shielding. Under the bridge pu shielding there might be a pencil written date. Candy apple red was a custom colour until the mid 60's, from the mid 60's it was a more common colour on Fender guitars. I asume the the was a CAR refin. Most likely the original colour was a 3 tone Sunburst. Early 58-59 bodies were most done in Ash, Alder was more common late 59. Most Alder Jazzmasters were finished in a 3 TSB. It looks like your shielding is consistent to an early 60's Jazzmaster. I think the simplified the shielding later on. The wires on the pick ups are non original, there should be 2 cloth wires running from each pickup, perhaps that's why you are thrown on on them. But the bobbins look the real deal as do the windings. It's not uncommon to find the early Jazzmasters to be robbed of their necks as they are very close to strat necks. Mind that Jazzmasters were pretty much unwanted after the 60's... My guess is that you have a Late 50's - early 60's Jazzmaster body with a 70's pickguard mated with a 1966 Blocks and Binding neck, making it a "Partsmaster".... Don't call it a Fake as it certainly isn't one ;-)
Lol it was clickbait title!!! And thanks for the detailed breakdown, appreciate it
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 Jerry covered everything i was thinking - but look under the NECK pickup in case there's a pencil date. They used to just auction off boxed of offset parts when nobody cared about Jazzmasters so a jumbled mix-and-match isn't uncommon. That neck repair is interesting - probably a great story long forgotten. As goofy as it is, I would've bought it if I ran across it as well. Cool guitar. A refin would definitely be worth it.
Haha a mix mash of awesome parts at least 😍 great video thanks man 👌
Definitely a mash up, thanks bro 🤘
Hello! Great video and such a cool ending of the story, a 1960 jazzmaster body :) Congrats! I have '65 Fender Jaguar stripped many years ago to natural and I'm thinking of refin to original blonde, but it looks amazing like it is now - just like your Jazzmaster. So it's a 50/50 to do this or not :)
So tough to choose i love it now, but would be cool to refin it too
Damn, this is a bummer. Very informative video here, though. And here you’re finding out that it’s even older! 🙌🏻 I have an old 60s telecaster, and I can tell some of it isn’t original, but I don’t mind. It looks bad ass, feels amazing.
Thanks mate , its got a story so thas cool!
great video mate!
thanks dude
Great story, great vid 👌I love these types of stories.
thanks buddy
Mike is just the nicest of guys.
Seriously a Gem of a human
How many 59' pots do you have? How much a piece? How much for the bridge?
I don't think they were offering candy apple red in 1959, so maybe that's what the first refinish coat. But in 1960 they started offering it so maybe that's correct
Wasn't it even later than 1960? 1963 or something?
This was great. Mike is a great guy
amazing story!
thnx buddy
its legit pre cbs other than the neck witch was likely replaced in 66 due to how the two aged together..i think dakota red would look better but candy apple or sonic blue even? ide be tempted to go blonde myself...
Thanks bro :)
Awesome video! I remember this from the Guildford days.
yes mate, bought it first year of uni i think?
I'm not sure if anyone's said this yet, but shouldn't the tuners be f-stamped tuners on a post CBS neck with blocks and binding? the ones on yours look like kluson style.
Not sure as far as I'm aware they still used old parts during the transition phase... They look original and the neck is defo legit ✌️
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 fair, that is true with the transition phase, just the first one I've seen with this combo
@@raiyan.h I'm no expert dude tbh, Mike didn't mention anything..but we were looking at the body really ...
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 yeah fair, i just had a look on reverb for pics of other 66's, other necks with blocks n binding do have kluson tuners, so yours in definitely not an anomaly,.... although if we wanna get into the nitty gritty, the ones i saw have "Kluson Deluxe" written on them, which is absent from yours, so hey maybe the tuners were changed within these 54 years or something but who cares, looks like a lovely guitar mate
@@raiyan.h No, I appreciate the sleuthing... It's definitely had an interesting past!!
Great Story! You have a Great Jazzmaster Jarvis!
Thankx dude
How much was it wen you bought it
1200 gbp i think
great video!!
Thanks bro appreciate it 🙏
Right on man! Congrats. Dig the story.
Cheers buddy
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 My wife and I are thinking about moving close to your area and opening another studio and guitar shop/store. .you family is from England. I'd love to meet you and do some work. Cheers Brother.
James Cropper
@@jamescropper nice dude sounds awesome ... keep in touch, DM me on Instagram is probably easiest way to get me ✌️
If you do restore the Candy Apple Red, I highly suggest you get MJT guitars in the US to do it, they can give it a patina/relic without it looking bad!
I'm building an MJT partscaster..check my other videos 🤘🤘🤘
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 will do! I built an MJT tele about 10 years ago, absolutely love it!
man googles creepy, i was talking to my friend about a 66 jazzmaster i found at a pawn shop and did a few searches yesterday and now this pops up on my recommended
Google's dark arts getting me some extra views ... Sweet 🤣
You should make a video about yours as well.
That is the Tremolo not the bridge, you also don't see copper shielding in the cavity on fakes
Jarvis you're a national treasure
Aw shucks 🤩
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818wait? the "Jarvis?" Got the right accent and everything! Must be the lead singer of that 80's/90's band, Pulp, right? (I mean, c'mon, how many Jarvis people can be over there, right?)
yours truly, Joe American
(sorry - hungover/delirious this morning and the above sounded quite funny in my head.... guessing I'll come back and delete this when I get my head back...)
I like your style (or is behavior the better word?) and really enjoy your way of talking and the british accent. Im a simple man, i love vintage guitars, so i subscribe. Thumps up! Many best greetings from berlin- germany 😃
thanks for your kind words :)
Nice Guitar BTW, Most likely, you have a late 59 early 1960 guitar here. What was common in the 2000's would be to buy this guitar for the neck. What fakers would do is take the 59/60 stamped Jazzmaster neck and make it into a Stratocaster neck, as there the same neck. I would bet that guy had a 1966 strat, swapped the necks to make it a pre-CBS then put the Startocaster 1966 neck on your Jazzmaster to sell it off, because at the time the price difference was minimal at best. The stanard color for the Jazzmaster was three tone sunburst, BUT you could customer order it in many General motors metallic paints, and yes Candy apple red was a custom color, and the black pick guard is most likely original, the 58 had the anodized aluminum gold pick guards, but Leo, always the economist switched to plastic to save the money.
This is definitely a JM neck but that could explain how it lost the original neck?!! Defo a colourful past
Some argue even as late as '66 it's effectively pre-CBS as they continued using exisitng stock, staff, tooling and machinery etc. but looks like early body anyway. Very cool. I say restore to original paint job but make sure it's nitro.
That's a super interesting point dude. Potentially the body could have been an old one lying around matched to the neck later on? What year is the Music Man?
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 The neck's dated Nov '64 but the serial number dates the guitar '65. Somebody dated the electronics for me, confirmed same age and most likely all original. It was advertised as pre-CBS but the guy in the shop was upfront and said it was 'borderline'. She's a gnarly old girl! Tuners are getting grumpy. Trouble with Musicmasters, Broncos etc is they were budget instruments at the time so not as durable as say your Jazzmaster.
@@jimharris6389 ah interesting still very early. They may be a "budget' guitar but you're still getting a lot of vintage heritage for your money. 🤘
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 Fo shizzle. Certainly not complaining. I toy with the idea of boxing up the scratchplate, p/up and electronics and putting them somewhere safe and installing some modern p/ups - it has only one as stock but it's got routing for two. And I toy with the idea of a respray but the finish is 100% original and so beautifully aged that'd probably be heresy! It's probably best left as is. Just buy more guitars is the solution of course 😅
@@jimharris6389 If you do by any chance box up the scratch plate, be sure to attach it to a board or something because if you just store it as is, the pickguard will shrink. I got hit by a vehicle on my bike last year and was out of work for 4 months and lost my '64 Musicmaster that was gifted to me by a friend who is now deceased. It's still got me f#@$ed up...
Seems to me that a shop like the one you bought it from would have researched beyond the neck date, because what is the resale value of a '59/60 vs. a '66? I realize it has mixed parts, but it makes me wonder, how many people rely on the shops word and might either be thinking they have say, a '62 Jaguar that they paid $$$ for, when it's actually a CBS model?
Great story
Thanks
Yep im local too an a jazzy buff. The saddles too are 50s. i have a bunch of em ranging in dates up to 70s. Your pickups match 59 too they have just had new cables added. 58s had plain enamel wire. The body too is 59. i have pot pat pend hardware on one of mine. My advice to you, get rid of that ugly gaurd an either buy a expensive original, but it will look great. Or get a great repo. dont paint it, leave it as it is, a played partsmaster an a workhorse with history. It will totally transform with a celuloise gaurd. i may be able to help with the gaurd i know few guys.
Thanks for the info bro, and yeah defo gonna try and get hands in an OG guard orba repro. Thanks dude
Ahhhhhhhhhhh I love it.....you Brits are after our Fenders....like kids are after Lucky Charms....
(I don't blame y'all....I wouldn't have wanted a Burns or a Vox)
I once bought a fake baby.
How did you find out>
What a story! Subscribed and liked mate 👍
Thanks sooo much bro ...i really appreciate the support
Excellent detective skills; you are clearly the Monsieur Poirot of stringed instruments...
Haha the tash helps!! It was actually all Mike Adams detective skills...his chanel is in the description...it's a great channel
Looks like the neck had a repair with cleats around the 4th fret? hmmm...
Not sure .... My tech has sorted it out ... and playing great now compared to b4
What about the pick guard?
Probably mid 70s
Amazing.
:)
Easy to imagine the guitar could have been repainted in the mid 60's and stripped natural late 60's through 70's - everyone was going to natural in the 70's it seems and pickup routes might have the evidence of a prior refin. I've seen it a lot. The volume pot doesnt date to 1959 though and is too clean/modern design for a CTS to be that old. The tone pot is a vintage style though and might be more likely to be original. The black shielded wiring has all been redone. Body does seem pretty old though so that not a bad thing.
Loved how this turned out! Have you always preferred Jazzmasters over Jaguars?
So how did it sound after all?
loads of vids on my insta if you wanna hear it :)
No Insta..
@@camilo1455 I'll post some more videos very soon
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 very cool, others were asking also
Dude what a story! Definitely go candy apple red!!!
Thanks bro I might have to!
I don't know. The patina is delicious as it is.
NO,
Or... Fiesta red
@@moonburst9434 yeah that could work
Clapton swapped around necks and bodies on Fender Strats back in the day. I wonder where they are!
My uncle has I believe a '57 Jazzmaster he is the original owner of. He bought it new. I guess he even brought it to Korea with him when he was stationed there during the war.
Pre historical guitar ya uncle have there mate
amazing thats so cool
Fender started making the Jazzmaster in 1958.
The Korean War was over in the early 50s my friend
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Thanks I wil do
I'd definitely keep it the way it is, but it's your guitar lmao
Hha thanks :)
Leave it as is where is, just play that thing. Its got a cool look to it. And for someone to restore it would be a waste imho.
Cheers dude 🤘
Leave it as it is. Is a killer guitar. Awesome story 😎
thanks buddy
I think you should restore it to candy apple red. That would be awesome. Great video! Subscribed!!
thanks dude, and thanks so much for following
I'd restore this to candle apple WITH matching headstock and tort guard
I mean I love the look but I could never refinih that headstock
@@bobbyjarvisjr9818 point taken, real history there. Enjoy the journey bringing it back to spec!
@@justinguitarcia Im tempted to have another more playable neck to use ( keep the old one safe) just to make her more playable ...can always switch it back