The Most WASTED DC Characters | What Went Wrong?

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  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous Місяць тому +29

    1:00 Yara Flora
    6:19 Sideways
    10:10 Signal

    • @1000tlt
      @1000tlt Місяць тому +1

      Much appreciated

  • @Justaguythatcameby
    @Justaguythatcameby Місяць тому +328

    Yara is the only part of wonder woman i will say needs a reinvention, like she would genuinely be more interesting if she had more ties with Brazilian myths and less with greek ones

    • @saturdaymorningcartoons9963
      @saturdaymorningcartoons9963 Місяць тому

      yeah i would have made Yara based around Brazilian Myths rather than handing her Diana's sloppy seconds

    • @reives3498
      @reives3498 Місяць тому +43

      If they wanted to make her American they should’ve put her in a place with a Brazilian population. At least make her association with Brazilian and greek myths equal

    • @JOshua_custodJO
      @JOshua_custodJO Місяць тому +28

      Yeah! Making her not being tied to Brazilian culture just defeats the whole point!

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +5

      I've only seen the character in team ups but wtf? She doesn't? I assumed she was like Artemis (who in the outlaws was part of a group of Amazonians in the middle east).

    • @georgematheus4965
      @georgematheus4965 Місяць тому +6

      I completely agree, so much so that her first comic is the most interesting because it has so much connection with Brazilian folklore

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 Місяць тому +207

    No kidding, the webcomic, Batman Wayne family adventures has done more with signal than DC itself 😂

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +16

      TBF that webcomic is some of the best bay family media out there. Doesn't make it any less sad that DC doesn't do anything with Signal.

    • @2Tall2ActSmall
      @2Tall2ActSmall 28 днів тому +9

      Wayne Family Adventures is currently my favorite piece of Batman media

    • @yiklongtay6029
      @yiklongtay6029 27 днів тому +7

      I like the comic and I like Signal there. But i still think that that comic hasn't figured out a sustainable niche for Signal besides the dorky rookie who gets to experience the lesser known quirks of being a hero for the first time. The rookie archetype doesn't work for comic superheroes that will run for decades

  • @andrewsanusi8462
    @andrewsanusi8462 29 днів тому +60

    It actually pisses me off how little DC does with Duke Thomas, my boi deserves so much better.

  • @bobigghhb3
    @bobigghhb3 Місяць тому +137

    DC not teaming Duke and Luke Fox together in a book that takes place in Gotham's The Hill neighborhood is just leaving money on the table

  • @eon001
    @eon001 Місяць тому +92

    Brazil and India are a market that's wide open to explore. Very strange they don't target them more.

    • @harikiran4339
      @harikiran4339 Місяць тому +12

      India is too sensitive to explore, plus comic books aren't that big in india compared to movies. Brazil is different and it would absolutely work.

    • @artist0154
      @artist0154 Місяць тому +12

      latam and sea in general are wide open, DC has been repeating their greek, egyptian mythos, they can touch something else

    • @eon001
      @eon001 Місяць тому +8

      @artist0154 Yes agreed. They have a international God pantheon. God's from Latin America, India, Africa, China etc. They need to branch out from Norse and Greece.

  • @NotEntirelyThere
    @NotEntirelyThere Місяць тому +70

    Yara flores had alot of potential, she needs a Brazillian working behind her

    • @darylifillifill1677
      @darylifillifill1677 Місяць тому +12

      Fact and a Brazilian team with Sideways and others

    • @JOshua_custodJO
      @JOshua_custodJO Місяць тому +11

      And just retcon her origin, make her growing up in Brazil, i wanna see her saying "life isn't a strawberry" and "do you're jumps" or like just saying and doing stuff that can be relatable to brazilians

    • @jermainenowels9511
      @jermainenowels9511 28 днів тому +5

      Having a someone of that same ethnicity doesn’t guarantee they will write her well. She just needs a good writer in general

    • @Nhará1471
      @Nhará1471 25 днів тому +1

      For anyone who wants to know about Brazilian myths, I recommend the book: As 100 Melhores Lendas do Folclore Brasileiro
      I don't know if it has been translated into English

    • @NotEntirelyThere
      @NotEntirelyThere 23 дні тому +1

      @@Nhará1471 based

  • @devv197
    @devv197 Місяць тому +47

    Yara was such a waste. They could’ve had her connected to Brazilian mythology instead of Greek. There are too many Wonder Women that look similar and do similar things. Sideways was probably DC’s biggest fumble. I rarely buy comics but i bought his first two issues because of how cool the concept was. Duke was also a pretty big miss. The concept of him being a “Robin” that operates during the day is actually really cool and him having light based powers was not a bad idea. But the execution is where DC fails these new characters. They’re just too stuck on Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman. Look at how Marvel has done Miles Morales as Spider Man. He’s damn near as popular as Peter at this point.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +5

      Maybe don't lean too hard on Miles as an example. Marvel is struggling there as well because they can't figure out how to move on from Peter (or more accurately let Peter move on in his life), so there's a lot of weirdness there. I would definitely say Miles is faring better than any of DC's attempts at new blood for sure. That said Miles' original appearance in the ultimate universe was... really bad. He was like the most token black character and had the blandest nothing personality. I was rather insulted reading it tbh (you know I get Peter's Ultimate run is amazing, and it is, but I do not get the love Bendis ever got). Miles improved as he joined the main marvel universe, but it really wasn't until the Spider-Verse movie that he got a massive glow-up and skyrocketed in popularity.

    • @kira-dk2mx
      @kira-dk2mx 28 днів тому +3

      @@vullord666 That's true, Miles didn't really blow up until Spider-Verse. I remember the shitshow his debut was when they announced him for Ultimate Comics.

    • @drakegrandx5914
      @drakegrandx5914 19 днів тому

      @@vullord666 I mean... if Miles Morales was ported over to the main continuity, it's exactly because he was already very, very popular among comic book readers. He was the only thing that people really liked about the travesty that otherwise was the Ultimate universe, so he got ported over. You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but it's undeniable how many, perhaps even most readers didn't feel the way that you did. Heck, maybe I remember wrong, but I don't think Miles's ethnicity has ever been a big deal witin the Ultimate comics, hasn't it? That's not what usually happens with "token" characters. It's not like with characters like Riri Williams, or Sam Wilson during his time as Captain America, who feel like "I'm [ethnicity]" is 80% of their characters; the latter is what I'd describe as a "token character", Miles wasn't any more "token" than John Stewart in that regard.
      That said, it's true that Miles is not a good example of what OP is saying - because what OP is missing is that Miles's current popularity is a byproduct of the fact that he _isn't_ replacing Peter Parker. In his debut comics, the reason people gave him a chance is exactly that he wasn't sold as "the new Peter Parker", since the Ultimate comics were a spin-off and not the main continuity. And that still hasn't changed till now - Peter Parker is still Spider-Man in the comics (quippy personality and all), with Miles just being a very popular member of his supporting cast. Similarly, Miles's current surge popularity is because of the Spider-Verse movies, that have a very meta-narrative about the Spider-Man Mythos - in them, Miles Morales isn't "his own hero", or "the new Spider-Man", the story isn't about Miles Morales dealing with a Miles Morales-specific cast of allies and villains and life events, but is about exploring the narrative of Spider-Man's story (by learning from it but also deconstructing it): basically, the popularity Miles got from those movies is a byproduct of Peter Parker's, the main character is the former, but the story explored is from the latter. Had Miles Morales been presented as "his own hero", with a movie or TV show that dealt with specific "Miles Morales"-exclusive stories with the "Peter Parker" elements relegated as background flavor, the movies would have likely not been as popular.

  • @robertoromero8594
    @robertoromero8594 18 днів тому +6

    Sideways was such a blatant Spiderman copy, but his story was still really cool and an interesting idea. I wished we saw more of him

  • @lulu_TheWitchBoy
    @lulu_TheWitchBoy Місяць тому +75

    I did not realized how popular dc is in Brazil… comics be having loyal fans in other continents yet they still do do poorly releasing stuff overseas

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +8

      DC is godawful at a global presence. I can't even use their digital comic reader when traveking abroad without a VPN. It's really sad when you step back and see just how well Manga (literally just the Japanese word for comics) does globally and especially in the US. Heck, at a Barnes and Noble I saw a glorious wall display for Manga while Marvel and DC comics were stuffed away in a corner. I pay $120 a year to read DC comics like 1 to 2 months after they're out in print (I can literally go online and read them pirated before this; you tubers I follow breakdown the issues before weeks before I can even read them) and again can't read without a VPN when traveling. Meanwhile I pay like $2.99 (it used to be $1.99) for a Shonen Jump Subscription to read new Manga weekly a couple of days after they release in Japan with English translations. It's like DC doesn't want their comics read. They barely market them in the US properly.

    • @lulu_TheWitchBoy
      @lulu_TheWitchBoy Місяць тому +1

      @ oh yeah they really need step it up. I’m lucky to be in the U.S. to read them, but heard from many people how bad globally it is. It’s one many reasons why manga so popular, because it’s also globally! Comics industry are still stuck in the old mindset of comic shops- it just so outdated now, they really need big change. Even in the U.S. some comic shops are just far away for some people.

  • @stevendc83
    @stevendc83 Місяць тому +34

    There is no such thing as a bad character, just a bad writer or a bad editor.

    • @Sonicman4155
      @Sonicman4155 Місяць тому +7

      @stevendc83 pretty much, yeah. Unfortunately, there are more bad writers than good ones in the comic industry.

  • @antwonsmith8931
    @antwonsmith8931 Місяць тому +108

    Sideways needs a comeback.

    • @Sonicman4155
      @Sonicman4155 Місяць тому +17

      Agreed, the new age of DC was very underrated.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@Sonicman4155I really would've liked to see if instead of the Justice League coming back and taking over, the Titans continued to be the premier heroes and that led into a whole new generation stepping forward into the forefront. Down the line the justice league could return but they'd operate more similarly to the Justice society, and obviously books like Batman and Superman wouldn't stop, but when the big world ending threats came it'd be the Titans leading the charge. This is honestly the promise dawn of DC sold me on. The legacy heroes would FINALLY en masse do what they were always meant to and take the driver's and as a result we'd see more focus on newer heroes like Sideways and even the legacy ones who had been forgotten like Superboy (Connor Ken). This could also work really really well coinciding with the absolute universe where you have Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman starting over in a new universe. I'm liking the Justice League Unlimited and a lot of the books DC has out right now, but it is such a disappointment that yet again the entire universe of heroes feels like backups to the usual suspects.

    • @chandlercarter364
      @chandlercarter364 27 днів тому

      Man that was a good comic

    • @piens51
      @piens51 26 днів тому +3

      ​@@Sonicman4155love Terrifics and Brimstone too. Theirbso damn good.

  • @shadowhell8378
    @shadowhell8378 Місяць тому +32

    Sideways could have been great in metropolis as all you need is Superman there for 1 issues to acknowledge he's there and while super is handling the giant monster on the west side of town sideways can stop the bank robbery on the east side. Metropolis really only has superman so having a street level hero there for the smaller things can work. And to connect them more you just have a few panels in there comics showing sideways opening a portal to help superman get in and out of the daily planet unnoticed.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Місяць тому +6

      Metropolis has a LOT of heroes. Heck, a lot of super family members. All of which writers barely do anything with. There was even a new one recently introduced in Superman comics... who looked really cool and writers have again barely done anything with. I'm not even of the opinion there can only be one hero per city, but DC sure seems to think Superman can be the only one in Metropolis. I think currently there's only ongoing books for Powergirl and Superman in Metropolis. Action Comics as well is mostly focusing on Superman. Meanwhile there's two Steels, two Superwomans, a Superboy, two alien twins Clark picked up from his adventures on warworld, Supergirl, Chinese Superman, and Jon Kent Superman, and that's not including a new hero that was introduced last year as having moonlight powers and I have not seen since.

    • @shadowhell8378
      @shadowhell8378 Місяць тому

      @vullord666 ok I thought there was superman, supergirl, and maybe power girl if she's back in the timeline not that many

  • @Silver_Spectre
    @Silver_Spectre Місяць тому +27

    Sideways has a special place in my heart bcuz the Metal event was when I first got into comics, and I’m so disappointed he doesn’t know up more

  • @willstoudemire-pulliam9084
    @willstoudemire-pulliam9084 Місяць тому +38

    Wonder Woman has a bigger family than you think. Let's not forget about Artemis and Grace, who was on the Outsiders squad with Arsenal and Nightwing and was also in a relationship with Black Lightning's daughter. And doesn't she have a Brother, too. And also wasn't Grail supposed to be her half sister or something. She's almost as convoluted as hawkman.

    • @stivenstark3832
      @stivenstark3832 Місяць тому +7

      Grail is the daughter of a rouge Amazon, not related to Diana.

  • @Batmanwhodrinks
    @Batmanwhodrinks Місяць тому +11

    Tom King is if a wattpad writer went to the comic industry

  • @brucebanana4486
    @brucebanana4486 Місяць тому +17

    I don't think Duke would have been any better as Robin because he has to share it with Damian and later with Tim. It is really hard to make standout to the rest of the Robins. Dick and Jason were already orphans. How they became their hero is very unique, which will be hard to top of those.
    Also, Harper was probably going to be Nightwing before New 52. Scott Synder was writing Dick as Batman, and Court of Owls was supposed to be his not Bruce. I wouldn't be surprised if the original idea that someone needs to fill in the Nightwing role, which Harper takes the mantle.

    • @SuperladCK94
      @SuperladCK94 Місяць тому +1

      Pre-Flashpoint it was suggested that Stephanie was supposed to do so and Nell Little would succeed her as Batgirl at the end of her Batgirl series....or does Black Mercying not count?

  • @uncle_ben_rices_nephew
    @uncle_ben_rices_nephew Місяць тому +6

    I absolutely loved Sideways. Was sad to see it cancelled.

  • @kevrulz06
    @kevrulz06 Місяць тому +10

    I really liked the Sideways book. That whole project of "New Age of Heroes" was jokingly criticized by many comic fans for just being Marvel knockoffs, but I distinctly remember a good amount of people were saying that DC was publishing the best Fantastic Four book at the time with The Terrifics, embarrassing Marvel who never really got them going again after 2015 Secret Wars. As far as Sideways goes, if I'm being honest, the best story I can think of would've been for him to not be able to control his dimension or space/time hopping, so he winds up on these exotic worlds. Kinda scifi/survival adventure. Great way to expand DC cosmos more, with new worlds for possible later use, establish new characters and have a character with a trait that's not really been done before, not to this level. It's basically Black Science (Image title).

  • @iveyyewitt1621
    @iveyyewitt1621 Місяць тому +10

    No wasted opportunity in the Batbooks will ever bother me as much as Orpheus and Silver St. Cloud, but Duke comes close.

  • @quantumsurge7250
    @quantumsurge7250 Місяць тому +5

    I found out about Sideways through youtube and when I went to a comic book store for the first time in my life, the first comics I bought were a couple issues of Sideways. I really want to see more of his character.

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 22 дні тому +3

    sideways was so popular you'd think they would've milked him

  • @mexicandarknight7161
    @mexicandarknight7161 Місяць тому +9

    I personally really like Kenneth Rocafort’s art and the colors make it very standout

  • @illwill1991
    @illwill1991 Місяць тому +9

    "Those 2 are hardly relevant now," I disagree with that statement. I think Tim Drake is still very relevant. You can make an argument for Kyle Rayner. He's definitely lost a lot of relevance. Especially recently. The thing is, when Geoff Johns resurrected Hal Jordan, he made sure to do it in a way that didn't diminish Kyle's impact or importance. Throughout Johns run on Green Lantern, he made sure that Kyle always had something cool and interesting going on. Whether it was making him ion or the new guardians book or giving him a ring from every lantern corps, Geoff Johns made sure that Kyle Rayner stayed at the forefront of the green lantern part of the dc universe. The problem was that Geoff Johns didn't stay on Green Lantern forever. Once he left, the writers who came after Johns didn't put as much care into maintaining Kyle's importance as he did.

    • @SuperladCK94
      @SuperladCK94 Місяць тому +1

      Also if Kyle wasn't with the Corps...he's either got bro-nanigans going on with Wally or being the only guy of Donna's that while he deals with tragedy...doesn't end up getting blown up or fridged...likely because he'll literally put the moon back together with the lanserian goop that makes Diana's invisible jet and his own willpower for which he never had a problem with the yellow fear emotion until he was forced to...not to mention Kyle routinely told his enemies, "I'm an artist, this power ring's like candy...and yes that means you Sinestro can consider yourself erased." and then of course he's the one who turned the Fab 5 Titans into the Spectacular 6 by just generally meshing really well with silver age starters by being the Grayson to Hal's Bruce.

  • @Captain8ball
    @Captain8ball 22 дні тому +3

    I feel like it would’ve been so much easier if they put sideways in Green Lantern’s city because he’s almost always off world so I need someone to keep an eye on it in the meantime

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 11 днів тому +1

    DC has way too many characters. It is nearly impossible to introduce new characters and have them stick out for their own merits especially before they get dragged into some kind of event.

  • @superlol178
    @superlol178 Місяць тому +26

    Great video! ( just wished it was bigger)
    Yara should have been written by a brazilian writer, and maybe even Diana's clay created daughter instead of Trinity. Problem solved, DC would have a major brazilian hero.
    As for Marvel...Gwenpool have the potential to be an S lister, but she have not been herself since her solo title ended...

    • @Sonicman4155
      @Sonicman4155 Місяць тому +5

      Definitely, Gwenpool was awesome in her first solo title. And it's disappointing how Marvel ruined her.

    • @afets5597
      @afets5597 Місяць тому +5

      How would a clay created daughter be Brazilian? Brazilian clay maybe?

    • @superlol178
      @superlol178 Місяць тому +3

      Diana tries to save a brazilian orphan girl and fails, she ask the brazilian gods to revive her and makes a mode of clay with Steve...and they adopt her...

    • @drakegrandx5914
      @drakegrandx5914 19 днів тому

      Gwenpool, due to the concept of her character, could never be a C-lister at best. You can't use her in important stories because her presence would immediately break the reader's suspension of disbelief. When you are reading a story that's supposed to invest you with its stakes, having a character around whose sole existence reminds you "there are actually no stakes at all because this is just fiction and how things will go is decided by the writers regardless of logical sense" is not a great idea.
      Gwenpool's character concept is a fun idea in theory, but in practice, it cannot persist on the long run in terms of popularity. People keep forgetting that, while her first comic run was popular, what allowed the story to work is that the entire run was basically a spin-off of the Marvel Universe as a whole, something that is supposed to stand up on its own and that doesn't affect anything else in-universe. In an environment like that, a meta-based character works because it's the premise of the product; but, in the context of a story where the meta aspect isn't supposed to be called into question, it does not.

  • @omarlopezproductions
    @omarlopezproductions 14 днів тому +1

    Miguel comes to mind, the guy from the Dial a hero series

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme Місяць тому +3

    Bro like you said marvel and DC has so many characters they dint know what to do with them, I'm surprised punchline is still around

  • @kevinnosaurus793
    @kevinnosaurus793 27 днів тому +3

    Ngl when i first read the first issue of Yara and she said shes never been in Brazil and is from Idaho it turns me off from continuing to read , even tho i atleast finished the first issue. Such shame cause her design and concept is so cool and the art is pretty good for me.

  • @afrw23
    @afrw23 20 днів тому +2

    Totally unrelated but Kyle Rayner getting pretty much removed after the 90s sucks, he needs more presence

  • @RandolphWashingtonJr
    @RandolphWashingtonJr Місяць тому +2

    Great video! I definitely want to see your thoughts on Marvel's characters.

  • @ESTComics
    @ESTComics Місяць тому +2

    I think a lot of em will come back, although something I'm always shocked by is how instant Jessica Cruz was added, first ten years she was multiple animated movies, two animated series and a main character of different comic titles

  • @lawrencegreyjr.493
    @lawrencegreyjr.493 25 днів тому +4

    Yara was the most unneeded new character. She can go. We had Cassie. We did not want yet another Wonder Girl. Please discontinue Yara. She is annoying and most certainly does not represent the Wonder family well

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 28 днів тому +4

    I wonder why DC didn't open a new publisher in Brazil and hire Brazilian writers and artists?

  • @timtenthousand
    @timtenthousand 29 днів тому +3

    upset that Marvel failed on Kid Kaiju, liked the concept a lot

  • @DragonFist9323
    @DragonFist9323 27 днів тому +3

    Big fan of Duke Signal

  • @ETPlayground
    @ETPlayground Місяць тому +10

    It would be so amazing if Wonder Woman discovered that it wasn't originally the Greek Pantheon who created Themyscria, but rather goddesses from around the world who came together in an effort to create the Amazons to promote peace and understanding and love before some falling out where the Amazons isolated themselves from all gods until the Pantheon found them again. We could get so many Wonder Girls and Women with their names being "Wonder [Girl/Woman in another language]" like Wonder Shoujo if one were Japanese.

    • @kira-dk2mx
      @kira-dk2mx 28 днів тому +2

      That's low key a cool concept. Could work as a Black Label story.

    • @ETPlayground
      @ETPlayground 28 днів тому +1

      @@kira-dk2mx thank you, that's very kind of you to say. 🩷🤍🖤

    • @Nhará1471
      @Nhará1471 25 днів тому +2

      I think it would be more interesting if each mythology had its "Amazons", like Greek mythology having the Amazons, Norse mythology having the Valkyries, Brazilian mythology having the Icamiabas, and each mythology having a different origin, some being priestesses of a specific god, some being witches, others being demi-goddesses, one having some pact with a certain entity, etc. There are a lot of things that DC could do but they are stuck in Olympus (which is very interesting), but there are many other possibilities, another possibility that DC could have used is the origin of the Amazons as Scythian warriors from the Eurasian plains, who were tribes of nomads where women also participated in wars where many took a break to demonstrate strength and courage (I thought that in the absolute universe of DC Wonder Woman would have her origin more linked to the Scythian tribes of the Eurasian plains).

    • @drakegrandx5914
      @drakegrandx5914 19 днів тому

      I really doubt that such a major retconning would be well-received... and maybe for good reasons.
      Like, don't get me wrong, as a mythology/folklore enthusiast who's sick of how overrepresented Greek mythology is, and how simplified to the point of misrepresentation anything but Greek, Norse, Egyptian or Japanese mythology is, different cultures getting representation is good, but it should never be "on the nose". Wonder Woman is a hero very rooted in feminism, but the reason she works is that it's not "in your face", she can be used to tell that type of stories (even to criticize aspects of it, in fact!), but can also tell many other stories that don't bring up said topic at all. To come up and say "Hey, you know your Greek hero that's been rooted in Greek mythology for 80+ years? Well, she's actually pan-cultural now", in this modern day and age, would just be seen as "They're just trying to appear progressist for market purposes", since that's a behavior both DC and Marvel have being doing multiple times in the last years.
      Honestly, if this had been 15-20 years ago, or 10-15 years from now, your idea would have probably sounded cool, even just as an option to explore to see how the readers receive it. But in the current climate, its perception is going to be skewed.

    • @ETPlayground
      @ETPlayground 19 днів тому

      @drakegrandx5914 no? It wouldn't change anything about Diana for the Amazons to have sister islands. Diana would still be the Greek, and it wouldn't be nearly the retcon that making Zeus' daughter was. She isn't made "pan-cultural" by saying that the Greek goddesses had friends from other cultures. Can't see how having Diana learn about other cultures contributed to hers and are connected to hers with other queens and princesses just as important as she is would be a bad thing in any era.

  • @kingkb54
    @kingkb54 29 днів тому +2

    Honestly when they gave him powers they already Drew this distinction they should have just turned him into space Batman but I do appreciate what they did for him during the dark Multiverse event where he was basically like the final boss / hero of the dark Multiverse

  • @Nhará1471
    @Nhará1471 25 днів тому +2

    I think it would be more interesting if each mythology had its "Amazons", like Greek mythology having the Amazons, Norse mythology having the Valkyries, Brazilian mythology having the Icamiabas, and each mythology having a different origin, some being priestesses of a specific god, some being witches, others being demi-goddesses, one having some pact with a certain entity, etc. There are a lot of things that DC could do but they are stuck in Olympus (which is very interesting), but there are many other possibilities, another possibility that DC could have used is the origin of the Amazons as Scythian warriors from the Eurasian plains, who were tribes of nomads where women also participated in wars where many took a break to demonstrate strength and courage (I thought that in the absolute universe of DC Wonder Woman would have her origin more linked to the Scythian tribes of the Eurasian plains).

  • @shmee123ful
    @shmee123ful Місяць тому +4

    if i may offer for your consideration, Mother Panic from the young animal imprint of dc. which was cannon to dc for a minite but knowing dc that was like 5 reboots ago
    starting out as a deconstruction of batman exploring how damaging the double life of batman is . before morghing into into the character Voilate page/ Mother panic
    whom if i were to discipe her would be what if batman became x23 from marvel. his humanity stripped to become a living weapon. she even devloped her own supporting cast and robin

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Місяць тому +4

    Donna's code name has been Wonder Warrior since 2016. JSYK.

    • @eddierascalhaskell4954
      @eddierascalhaskell4954 Місяць тому

      Troia.

    • @SuperladCK94
      @SuperladCK94 Місяць тому +3

      It wasn't Wonder Warrior in 2016. Since 2006 she's shared Wonder Woman with Diana...she just dresses in variations on her Troia suit (a a black and silver variation on her old red and gold Wonder Girl suit) with armor because she can...and all hero captions for her exclusively state public identity as Donna Troy, but if she has a codename, she answers to Wonder Woman, not Wonder Girl, not Troia, not Darkstar, not Wonder Warrior, Wonder Woman.
      Wonder Warrior seems more ah...Artemis Grace's department if she wasn't also Wonder Woman-Jason Todd editon?

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 28 днів тому +3

    They really should have gotten Brazillian writers.

  • @luke5249
    @luke5249 17 днів тому

    Reading Sideways as it came out was pretty neat and I really liked the villains they put him up against as they served a great way to explore the limits and conditions of his abilities (like when he accidentally cut someones arm off). However, seeing him not really appear in anything else after his debut is incredibly disappointing as, unless they put him in a new team book, he's most likely going to fall into the abyss of lesser-known DC characters that will get a minor cameo in a random episode of some cartoon every 2-4 years.

  • @dychrisshandonsmith1242
    @dychrisshandonsmith1242 Місяць тому +3

    Keep it up on your work and this video and channel
    I love this video and channel
    Thanks you for your video and channel

  • @CK-nf7ge
    @CK-nf7ge Місяць тому +2

    I like this video and I liked hearing your opinion. Let’s get a part 2

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 Місяць тому +3

    I hope They Get to be In more Comics One Day

  • @OrthwormJEB
    @OrthwormJEB Місяць тому +3

    Out of the three, I'll miss Sideways. If they ever make a Teen Titans or Young Justice comic, he needs to make a comeback.

  • @jomeotrashgod1098
    @jomeotrashgod1098 8 днів тому +1

    I've always liked dcs parody characters they are fun af in concept but they never really get a chance like sideways, or black spider who is dcs evil spiderman or red lion who is like evil black panther I think these ideas are interesting but they get snubbed

  • @rodrigofigueiroa9184
    @rodrigofigueiroa9184 Місяць тому +3

    Just give them to Grant Morrison. He would fix them all. Or Alan Moore if DC hadn't screwed with him.

  • @dariussynagogue8761
    @dariussynagogue8761 18 днів тому

    This is the best way to have all three become relevant.
    Duke Thomas and Cassandra Cain leaves goes to find lady shiva, which leads them to Brazil. They end up meeting yara. While they train they hear stories of the fuginauts, where it sounds a lot like gnomon(dukes dad). They eventually go back to Jersey where they investigate tempus fuginaut thinking it’s gnomon only to find out it’s not and where they meet Derek James and eventually they end up back with the outsiders where gnomon actually comes into the story and incapacitates black lightning, so duke tries to get revenge and assemble the new outsiders which is duke, Cassandra Cain, and invites yara and sideways.

  • @HolyHadou
    @HolyHadou Місяць тому +1

    What's going on with Harper Row? That Punk Batwoman that hung out with Punch Line. Dang that's two right there. Also Damage.

  • @02ninjaman
    @02ninjaman Місяць тому +1

    I also liked Fuerza from the flash, the strength force was actually really interesting to me.

  • @danielcarrera886
    @danielcarrera886 27 днів тому +1

    The main issue for me is that wonder woman has 3 wonder girls to mentor [soon to be 4 whenever they make her daughter wonder girl] and she barely acknowledges them. Wonder girl is treated as Wonder Woman’s prodigy but is ever actually seen together like Batman and robin or any of the other heroes with sidekicks.
    Also i feel Duke Thomas and side ways would work better as a duo. Both being the heroes of fathom during the day.

  • @foxos7776
    @foxos7776 Місяць тому +8

    Crazy cause all signal needs is some rebranding send him to bludhaven and make him Nightwings sidekicks revolutionary would it be for the og sidekick to have his own sidekick. And what would his name be Flamebird, since Nightwings got his name from the kryptonian myth of “Nightwing and Flamebird” they go together and what better dude to be Flamebird than the dude with light powers. And then bludhaven is literally a neon city for light powers mane, like cmon

    • @Enimorj
      @Enimorj 27 днів тому +3

      How Nightwing don't have a Flamebird yet is beyond me, even Tim could take this mantle

    • @huntertezz
      @huntertezz 21 день тому

      ​​@@Enimorj Damian really should have become Flamebird and moved to Bludhaven.
      He works way better as Nightwing's side kick but dc kept making him Bruce's.

  • @ancientking224
    @ancientking224 Місяць тому +1

    All 3 are some of my young DC favorites but I agree that all 3 are wasted potential. Yara was fascinating on her introduction but I agree with you that the author screwed over the character since they had a lot of Brazilian and Greco-Roman mythology to play with but dropped the ball on. Meanwhile Sideways was one of the major things that got me back into DC and one of my favorite young heroes with the ending with his mother being interesting but they never touched on him again. While Duke is really interesting in the Wayne Family Adventures Webtoon I don't know what he's doing in the actual comics since the we are robin event and some general batfamily stories.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse Місяць тому +4

    I will just say it out loud. Signal looked like Bumblebee from Transformers and had vague powers. Yara is running around with Cassie still running around. And Sideways was unnecessary when you have the modern version of Vibe.

    • @SuperladCK94
      @SuperladCK94 Місяць тому +4

      Sideways was meant to be a DC Spider-man type, but when you have both Jaime and Virgil already, that's kinda redundant.

  • @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx
    @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx Місяць тому +60

    Tom King is DC's best writer? That's a wild statement as he likes destroying character's and his wonder woman is painfully boring

    • @Miss_Heed_Lover
      @Miss_Heed_Lover Місяць тому +5

      You know he's going to say something stupid when he uses "boring" as an argument.

    • @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx
      @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx Місяць тому +15

      @Miss_Heed_Lover so criticizing a piece of media for being boring is stupid or not valid?

    • @Miss_Heed_Lover
      @Miss_Heed_Lover Місяць тому +7

      Yeah, criticizing something subjective but that more or less has an argument, with another totally subjective thing like "boring", it is not the argument that you think it is. It's just meaningless

    • @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx
      @MalwandlaNdlovu-cq2yx Місяць тому +8

      Okay let's look at more critically the run's first premises was finding out the father of Trinity and it was heavily implied to be that blonde woman in issue one was the mother and she killed a bunch of people in a bar a plot he seems to have dropped .
      His absolute power tie-ins where just bad in my opinion a waste if time. Steve's death losts it's impact with the different time-line thing Tom king likes to do it stead of writing a straight foward impactful story.
      Since all in the big has just been mid with wonder woman barely showing up which would be fine if the stories where interesting I just find it weird how Yora robbed a bank (which did have the sovereign money) she beat up police officers doing there jobs she didn't even try to explain and let cheetah maul the sovereigns account brutally.
      The detective chip issue is probably the least interesting issue so far his trying to find out how the sovereign killed Steve which dosen't work since we (the readers) already know how he did it so it kinda feels like filler to me
      And the funny thing is we know the sovereign already lost as he is the narrator so it loses all tension for me as he just glazes wonder woman each issue and his supposed to be a joker level threat right.

    • @Justaguythatcameby
      @Justaguythatcameby Місяць тому +2

      It's not that bad, Sampere's art is beautiful and so was the battle scene with Grail, I like that King is involving the Wonder Girls and more of her rouge gallery like Angle man, I like the concept of the Sovereign as everything Wonder Woman stands against,I like that he understands wonder woman as a force of love and compassion, but besides that, man the dialogue is painful to read and so it's the Sovereign's narration

  • @LaffyTaffy04
    @LaffyTaffy04 28 днів тому +1

    As a whole, DC really stopped pushing new characters around 2011. The reason why is that DC decided to go for reboots of established characters, leaving their successors in the wind. Why try and make a new IP when they could make The Justice League the hot new kids on the block?
    And I hated this because Blue Beetle was on the cusp of being the new cool teen superhero but the New 52 undid all of that and made him irrelevant.

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 28 днів тому +1

    8:35 I didn’t realize it took place in Gotham tbh 😂

  • @greenguy6787
    @greenguy6787 Місяць тому +11

    Teen Lantern. She needs more love. This girl reversed engineered her own green lantern ring.

  • @vernonhampton5863
    @vernonhampton5863 Місяць тому +20

    2:50 I'm sorry but, I fully disagree with the writer/artist/creator having to match the race or ethnic group of the main character. I mean, look how great Dr. Alex Cross is as a black American character written by James Patterson. The thing is, he does the homework to make the character feel authentic. Jones is an example of a writer who did anything but make the character authentic, she made her... her.

    • @devv197
      @devv197 Місяць тому +9

      Yeah but it would be much easier if the writer for the character was familiar with the culture. They could’ve at least gotten so Brazilian co writers

    • @LanternsLight
      @LanternsLight Місяць тому +4

      As long as the characters done well, it doesn’t matter to me, same with voice actors, they don’t need to be the race/ethnicity of the character they’re playing, if you can do the character justice then there’s no problem.

    • @Lildoug_456
      @Lildoug_456 Місяць тому

      @@LanternsLight what if it’s an Asian character with a thick accent.

    • @LanternsLight
      @LanternsLight Місяць тому +5

      @@Lildoug_456 If the actor can do the accent well and do the research to get it right, then it would be fine in my opinion. Actor’s do accents that aren’t their nationality all the time, most of time it’s British or a British actor playing an American but still.

    • @Wright805
      @Wright805 Місяць тому +2

      Agreed. Look at Yoko Tsuno; a Japanese character written by a Belgian man, and she's one of the best comic characters ever.

  • @kingkb54
    @kingkb54 29 днів тому +2

    Can someone explain with the teens Titan cover

  • @kingkb54
    @kingkb54 29 днів тому

    Before I hear anything about Yara if there's about to be a statement that's about to say that she herself was not popular that would not be true within a pop culture context because when she did come out she was very popular and was viewed as a very interesting character one of the biggest questions was why DC ended her run with with two factors being get one people just weren't picking up her comic. Where I don't believe Comic Book Sales nowadays are a actual measure of how popular the Character Are because Comic Book Sales have been going down throughout the years with the only characters having good numbers are the most popular ones. Cuz I remember the talks when Trinity was introduced many people did not know why considering they already introduced one Wonder women character that could have been flushed out

  • @Emil_LLscpfan
    @Emil_LLscpfan 27 днів тому

    Saying that something important comes from idaho let alone a superhero is like saying "i have schizophrenia"

  • @drakegrandx5914
    @drakegrandx5914 19 днів тому

    Saying that Blue Beetle is "recent" is like saying that Damian Drake is "recent". Jaime Reyes has been the main Blue Beetle since 2008, and the most common one to have been portrayed in non-comic media, to the point that the most iconic elements associated with his superhero identity (the Scarab being an alien creature that speaks strange, the blue and back suit, and the fact the suit is super adaptable) have been introduced with him; even without the recent movie (which didn't affect his popularity, like, at all) people with even just a slight interest of superhero media have been aware of him since forever. Heck, I'd even go as far to say that, to non-comic book readers, Jaime is more recognizable than Damian himself, because while, yes, "the 4th Robin" isn't an obscure character by any means, he's never had the non-comic coverage that Jaime got.
    It's not a situation a-la Miss Marvel, a post-2015ish (I know she's from 2013) superhero created specifically with Gen Z in mind (and that, unlike all of the other "edgy-for-edginess's sake" and Twitter-oriented junk, managed to actually become popular thanks to her character concept and personality) which still has to find her footing when it comes to remain "iconic" as opposed to the "trend" of this half-a-decade.
    Sorry if I went on a rant here, but it always riles me up how, since the movie came out, some people have started acting like Blue Beetle is some new character meant to fit into the current "young hero from a minority" craze (and, to be fair, the movie does look at that target audience), when, like... no, not at all, he's been an established and iconic character for around 15 years by now, and became an iconic B-lister almost immediatly.

  • @ashleighkates6935
    @ashleighkates6935 27 днів тому +1

    Just letting you know im interested in a future state video.😊❤

  • @CYCLOPS1994
    @CYCLOPS1994 27 днів тому +1

    Her enemy should be the 9-finger Thief who makes the L.

  • @regosaix
    @regosaix 27 днів тому +1

    The big problem with DC and Marvel is that they make these new characters, many of them are very interesting, but they leave them aside, they never make the effort to promote them and they never really support the creatives. Many times you can see how they constantly do more things for Spider-man and Batman than for a new character and it is really STUPID. Spider-man and Batman can be terrible series without promotion and still sell, while the others need to be established, the worst thing is that sometimes they put one of them in the comics as if that would help them sell more, what they don't realize is that that only promotes Batman (for example) but not the unknown hero, they should do it the other way around, put unknowns in the series of big heroes, but that is only one thing, as I said there is a big problem in promoting their products, have you seen how many times they promote new series and it has few reactions and nobody does anything? there is a big problem

  • @zanochureal7588
    @zanochureal7588 17 днів тому

    Brazillian here, I had high hopes for Yara, i talked with a friend of mine and we thought "man, she could have relationship with Water like the original Iara from our folklore! And that would make her a direct contrast with, like, half of the folklore characters because they use mostly fire! That would be so cool" but then they write her like an generic american white girl and "i have never been to Brazil"

  • @jimdotbeep
    @jimdotbeep 25 днів тому +1

    Duke pushing out Batman's biological son who Batman needs to make sure doesn't go down the dark path the Al Ghuls want him to would have been a VERY bad look.

  • @sepp4815
    @sepp4815 27 днів тому

    my idea bring Sideways back with his own new run and just make him dcs Spiderman
    next do an interessting story with him meeting Signal (Gothams Daylight Hero) and doing a teamup and show how Gotham works in Daylight
    and Signal showsup from time to time in after that in the comic as Batmantyp character (and retcon that he once was a Robin before becoming his own hero)

  • @Paragon231
    @Paragon231 21 день тому

    Yara's issue wasn't the portuguese thing, it's that Joelle Jones constantly missed deadlines.

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 Місяць тому +1

    3 OF THE NEW DC HEROES I THINK SHOULD BE ADDED IN CERTAIN STORIES & THEN SHOWN IN CARTOON SHOWS LATER:
    The first is THE-SIGNAL aka (Duke Thomas Brown) & I want to see a variant of him, to appear in a (BATMAN BEYOND) story.
    That’s about a variant of Future-Batman, who exists within the Earth-226 Realm, and I would like to see it in a cartoon show.
    I imagine DUKE first meets FutureBatman, when he’s 7years old, and Future-Batman aka (Terrance “Terry” McGinnis) is 17years old.
    In addition I imagine at age:12, DUKE discovers he’s a MetaHuman, and later he decides he wants to be a hero.
    I also think that Duke, should be given more abilities & powers, along with have a better looking outfit for him, and do most of his fighting at night with Batman.
    The 2nd. is WONDER-GAL aka Cassie Sandsmark, who’s the daughter of WonderWoman, and is a love child from her mother’s tragic romance with a guy.
    The 3rd. is SIDEWAYS aka Derek James Grey, he has teleportation power, and superhuman strength.
    I myself think SIDEWAYS should be given two more added abilities, and shown in a cartoon show, joining either the Teen Titans, or the Young Justice team.

  • @lawrencegreyjr.493
    @lawrencegreyjr.493 25 днів тому +5

    This upstart Yara certainly did not deserve to inherit the Wonder Woman title. How arrogant of her creators and DC to think she did.

  • @danielendless
    @danielendless Місяць тому +2

    Their best writer Tom King?!
    I'm out, and don't ever exist within a 10km radius of me

  • @M567dk
    @M567dk 27 днів тому +3

    Signal was a bit too much given how many sidekicks Batman already has.

  • @NotEntirelyThere
    @NotEntirelyThere Місяць тому +2

    I love side ways hope he comes back

  • @joshuataylor7443
    @joshuataylor7443 Місяць тому +1

    4:27 even though I wouldn’t say he’s good, but yeah And 7:19 that consider bad I like that cover.

  • @Zay-ii8cn
    @Zay-ii8cn 16 днів тому

    I don't know why I thought Signals' name was actually Day-Brake

  • @kingkb54
    @kingkb54 29 днів тому

    I'm not going to hold you I don't think there's any clothes off in his suit considering there are popular characters with the weirdest name that we normalize

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 16 днів тому

    "Sideways was meant to be DC's answer to Spider-Man" I mean... Blue Beetle is right there but okay. Also, his teleport is just Nightcrawler.
    Anyway, most wasted DC character, to me, is Simon Dark.

  • @corbinowens2437
    @corbinowens2437 28 днів тому

    Came to this video cause literally 2 days ago I was asking what happened to Yara & Sideways

  • @khayamirshad210
    @khayamirshad210 Місяць тому +2

    Please explain why 5g is bad idea

  • @coreybell2223
    @coreybell2223 Місяць тому

    Is Jaime Reyes still considered new since he was created in 2006? That’s 19 years ago.

    • @drakegrandx5914
      @drakegrandx5914 19 днів тому

      He really isn't. Heck, if anything, he rose in popularity very fast, to the point that he almost-immediately became the iconic Blue Beetle, also thanks to his appearance in shows like Batman TB&TB, Young Justice and Justice League Actions. If you ask anyone about Blue Beetle, fat chance is they won't think of the "Inspector Gadget"-like Ted Kord version, but the "flying blue-and-black space suit with talking alien backpack" Jaime Reyes one.

  • @diegodreossi1458
    @diegodreossi1458 Місяць тому +1

    Yara Flor deserved more

  • @MatthewLoh-ru1mw
    @MatthewLoh-ru1mw 25 днів тому

    Simple. They have NO idea what to do with them. Plus, they prefer to stick to their classic legacy characters than these new/newer heroes

  • @jermainenowels9511
    @jermainenowels9511 28 днів тому +3

    Yara and Duke definitely have potential. Maybe a new team can be formed with them involved. Both of them are stuck in crowded situations with Bat Family and Wonder Family.

  • @youtubersworldwide3713
    @youtubersworldwide3713 Місяць тому

    Side
    Miss opportunity
    😂😂😂

  • @HELLCAT7
    @HELLCAT7 19 днів тому

    Signal should have been named Crow and never have been given powers

  • @SarcasticEnchilada
    @SarcasticEnchilada Місяць тому

    signal and yara need some better costumes I’m gonna be honest. Yara’s costume is way too busy, they should’ve taken more inspiration from indigenous South American cultures. Y’all should look up Moche armor, it’s like a blend between samurai and Inca, so cool

  • @sepp4815
    @sepp4815 27 днів тому

    why does dc or marvel only create new heroes from the Us and not from europa, africa, australia, south america (Asia got one in the last years), its a huge missed potential and I don´t understand why they don´t let an other country author write these characters who knows about his country and problems/lifestyle of people there

  • @eppieblanks4680
    @eppieblanks4680 3 дні тому

    Frfr sideways needs to come back....no need to have em join a team just let him be he should of been set in star city since green arrow isn't as famous as batman or just a new city in general give him some flash villains since flash has more villains that are most like spider man villains....bring back sideways DC finish his story at least

  • @gingergreeney
    @gingergreeney Місяць тому +7

    Surely top of this list has to be Naomi, she even got a tv show and yet I have not seen her in anything, nor know anything about her. She last appeared in Deb 2024 as a flashback cameo in a green arrow comic according to the wiki

    • @twincast2005
      @twincast2005 29 днів тому +2

      Not really. The characters mentioned in the video had actual potential. Naomi got heavily pushed (in two wildly different interpretations at the same time) just because DC was utterly out of touch to be convinced everything by Bendis would be a hit.

  • @darylifillifill1677
    @darylifillifill1677 Місяць тому +6

    They need to put wonder girl in a relationship with Wonder Woman son
    Sideways need to be on EuroCorp or a new team from Latin America
    Duke should have been in the Black lightning tv show

  • @harikiran4339
    @harikiran4339 Місяць тому +4

    Duke and sideways would work as elseworld characters or alt earth heroes!

    • @DCMarvelMultiverse
      @DCMarvelMultiverse Місяць тому +2

      Should do that with a lot of heroes. Why do we have two sets of Shazamily (Earth 0 and Earth 5), two sets of JSA/Golden Age heroes (Zero and Two), Charleton (0 and 4), etc. Too much redundancy.

    • @Sonicman4155
      @Sonicman4155 Місяць тому

      @DCMarvelMultiverse Yeah, that's weird. DC should probably fix that.

  • @Geoemophobic
    @Geoemophobic 21 день тому

    Duke should NOT be robin, him as robin would be pointless in universe and Batman having a partner that doesn't even work the same shift as him would be dumb having two robins one for night and one for day is also pointless Damian should be the final robin Bruce has

  • @ChantMacleod
    @ChantMacleod 18 днів тому

    The problem with Sideways is detailed in your video. He's a lazy rip off of a bunch of other ideas, like he was developed by committee.

  • @montebeverly237
    @montebeverly237 Місяць тому +8

    16:00 I personally care more about Black Lightning than Batman

  • @ronanoconnor3392
    @ronanoconnor3392 19 днів тому

    The Yara portion is my favorite, I love the research put into this!