Literally listening to this with one earbud in while I do my nightly pre-bed routine, and my guy decides to go full Will Ramos in my ear. My stomach flooded with ice water. 😂
Out of all the topics the channel's covered, this is the one that's made me lose sleep. Something about a "normal guy" being out where no human should be asking nonsense questions from the dark is imo spookier than any seemingly paranormal disappearance or murder.
It's Washington, so if it was going to happen somewhere, it doesn't surprise me it's there... I think between Washington and Oregon, there are many more of these incidents that go untold. I grew up in the shadow of Mt. Rainer as a kid in the 80's and early 90's. That means you also grow up in the shadows of all those serial killers. I hiked some decent Mt. Rainer trails as a kid, even had a picture of me taken while leaning against a random post in the ground over a cliff (to this day, I can't believe that was even a thing).
I mean, look at that guy who died recently. Just out hunting, meets a seemingly normal guy, they share a beer, and then said seemingly normal guy kills him and it looks so bad that people think a bear did it
@@rosesweetcharlotteI guess sometimes “hoping for the best” is actually the worst thing you can do 😮😢 crime weekly covered this case and it really baffled me
If possible, can there be a playlist created labeled something along the lines of "Videos That I'm Kinda Pissed Didn't do Better", please? The title doesn't need to be exactly that, but just express a similar sentiment. That title would be pretty funny, though.
No, I demand that the playlist be titled exactly as @daytwaqua suggested. I would be willing to accept strategic wildcard characters inserted as necessary if required by UA-cam.
A couple years back, I was hiking an 8 miler (in Appalachia, not the PNW) and I kept hearing voices. There were no cars in the lot besides rangers because it was a crappy day and it's not a well known park. I had my dog with me, and she heard it, too. First indication something was weird was my dog kept looking at the same spot and growling. As we were heading up a mountain, you couldn't see that spot for too long, but she'd always turn back that way and act nervous. I just assumed there was a turkey or something hiding in the brush that she could smell but neither of us could see. When we got to the top of the first ridge, I was staring out thinking how nice it would be to have land out that way, and I hear, "Hey," from behind me. Like, directly behind me. Before I can even turn around my dog's barking and whining and guarding me. No one's there. So now I have my knife out because I'm actually scared for the first time in a long time. There are houses on the highway into this place, but it's too far for voices to have traveled like that, and it was also coming from the wrong direction. So we keep walking, because we're at the halfway point and I'm in for another 4 miles regardless of if I'd turned around or not. At almost the peak, my dog starts looking back the way we'd come and growling again. I just kept telling her to keep moving. I was freaking out and hoping me being nervous was making her nervous and it was nothing, the voice before had surely just been one that somehow floated up from the nearest house the better part of a mile from where we'd been. Kept walking, and as I'm trying to dismiss everything, I hear a different voice. Sounded like a maybe 5-7 year old kid. Just said, "No!" Not a yell, just forcefully, like someone who's putting their foot down. Again, my dog is freaking out and barking in the direction it came from. As it sounded like a kid, I yelled out, "Hey, are you ok?" It's a super rural place and there are bears, so if some kid had gotten lost up there, somehow, it would be wrong not to help. No reply. Nothing. It was around this time I noticed that all the birds and squirrels that I'd heard moving around earlier were silent. It was February, so I told myself it was just because nothing was active in the cold. So we carried on. Heading back down, there was a hearth right off the trail. It blocked the wind nicely, so my dog and I took a moment to sit in it and eat. I could only see right in front of us, but could clearly hear footsteps coming the way we'd just been. I froze, trying to hear better, to make sure the wind wasn't playing tricks on me. Dog starts growling again. The footsteps stop immediately. I'm trying to get her to stop, but can't. I had a tiny bit of service, being so high up, so I sent my mom a text telling her this place is weird, and to call rangers to the trail I'd gone down if she didn't hear from me by dark. I didn't have enough service to go online and get the ranger station's number. Still no footsteps. I let go of my dog and she runs back the way we'd come, just standing there with her head low and her fur raised. No one there. We're less than 3 miles from my car, and it's all downhill from there, and I moved as fast as I could without eating dirt going down that mountain. The birds didn't come back until we reached the road. I swear it was as soon as I could see pavement, I could also hear wildlife. Until then, it had just been the sounds of me and my dog walking for miles. No traffic, no animals, only walking and breathing and wind. And random voices, twice. There's still no one else parked there. It's almost sunset. The ranger station is closing, and the guy parked outside of it says, "We were just about to go looking for you. Your car's been the only one here all day and we were hoping no one was lost!" I didn't mention the weird stuff I'd heard on my hike, but I asked why there weren't any animals along the trail. He said he had no idea what I was talking about, that he summits the mountains there often to ensure the trails are clear and he's never heard it quiet. He suggested there might be a bear in the area, but bears don't say "hey" and "no" last I'd checked. No reports of similar things happening so far as I could find online, but I did find that there used to be a prison at the base of the mountain, and one nearby that was still in operation, and had some people on Reddit say there might have been an escapee stalking me. But there was never any evidence of anyone else up there besides sounds. It was late winter. There was no undergrowth to hide in. Unless someone was skinny enough to hide behind a tree (you'd have to be anorexic, because almost none of them were larger than a 10" diameter) or fast enough to hide under leaves by the time I could turn around, I don't buy it. Someone else said it was ghosts. Not sure I buy that either. But I have no idea what was happening, and I still refused to go back there unless I have people with me to witness anything weird. My dog can verify for me that something is there, but having seen her acting like that doesn't prove anything to anyone else.
The thing is, no matter what it was, you had every reason to be scared and freaking out. Your dog was acting weird, you were not feeling right. Those are reasons enough to get out of there
Thank you for taking the time to share your story, I found it very interesting. I'm sorry that I cannot offer any ideas but that is very strange indeed. Animals are more in tune with and reliant upon "gut feelings" and, unlike we humans, they cannot rationalize them away. I have a rule that gut feelings always mean something and I need to figure that out, if possible; I never ignore them. The event may be trivial but there are things our minds see and sense that our conscious thoughts do not. Those of our ancestors that learned to ignore that didn't reproduce often. We may not need those senses today as in the past but ignore them at our peril.
I immediately came to the same conclusion. Bell's Canyon is a code phrase for a drug ring or shelter. The fact they didn't act normally is completely in line with someone with mental disabilities or drug issues. The description of the three individuals on the road looking like zombies (meth use) or half naked in ripped clothing is completely believable for our state.
You know, the more of these videos I watch, the more sure I am that going outside, partying, or interacting with people in general is just a bad idea. Being severely introverted is a survival tactic I swear.
Being severely introverted myself as well….I approve and back this theory 😂 my uncle and I went to a shooting range recently and someone he knew waved him down to say hi. After the encounter my uncle told me they tried to be friends with him but were a little too much for drama and he was friendly but avoided them further than that. When I said I did that with everyone, he replied “yeah, much safer that way.” And all I thought was…he gets it lol
Nah, as a long time introvert, the woods are fine if you know what you're doing out there. I spend most of my free time in the woods. And I was drunk a lot of the time I was in the wilderness. Not safer than a bubble but a lot more fun.
I’m an extroverted introvert- prefer quiet and solitude aside from family or close friends, but have learned to interact and be friendly/professional in proper settings. Simple answer is to do what you want, but stay strapped. Everyone understands what it means when they see the deep black hole of a muzzle aimed at them, especially if they’re acting hostile.
I love this channel. I live near Mt Rainier, I can see the mountain’s peak from my backyard and I go camping several times a year, but I’ve only camped once near Rainier. I don’t have a scary story or anything interesting to say about camping, I’ve never experienced anything weird, but these stories do work to keep me always vigilant when I am out in the woods. There is just so much nothing out there in the forest, it’s impossible to explain how alone you feel to someone who has never been there; I personally believe that all 3 of those first stories could have happened, or at least that the story tellers believe that they happened. Another awesome video dude, thank you for what you do.
Mr Ballen did this story a while back and it has haunted me ever since. Upon watching this I realized there was a new level to which this story could haunt me and it has been unlocked, so, thanks for the nightmares.
I listen to these often while doing a task or driving, and this particular one I was driving and 14:30 made me almost jump out of my seat lmao, one way to make sure I’m still awake
I have a friend who is an FBI agent who was bow hunting in Oregon. At the end of the day he made the choice to head back camp, he was off trail and a heavy fog came in. He was using OnX for navigation and suddenly someone was behind him in the fog screaming and growling, just behind the veil of the fog. Apparently they are mountain dwellers who live outside year round and practice this type of action to scare people away.
I genuinely believe that this is what the Bigfoot sightings are. When people say why hasn't any dead Bigfoots been found, it's not that they haven't, it's more that people are looking for the wrong thing. They are looking for an ape-like creature. There are skeletal remains regularly found in the wilderness, these are almost certainly remains of these mountain dwellers. The hairy thing can easily be explained away by them wearing pelts.
I do not doubt that one bit. Meth heads as well do similar type behavior so depending on where he was bow hunting, I'm not one bit surprised. I worked law enforcement out in Oregon for almost a decade & just like the shadows of Mt. Rainer, there's some very strange individuals.
My bet is some kind of drug thing, either a grow operation or maybe a moderate-scale meth production setup out in the woods. I get your point about the person being more likely to chase someone away if they did not reply to the code question correctly, but depending on the size and sophistication of the operation, it might actually have been more in their interest to follow him if he was close but not right up on them, for a couple reasons. 1) If they chased the hiker away or threatened violence, not only does that increase the likelihood of a report to park rangers, but more importantly, it *also* increases the likelihood of park rangers taking it seriously and investigating, because it would sound like someone trying to keep hikers away from something. Whereas what he did, if reported to rangers, comes across as the kind of "creepy dude out in the woods" Bigfoot-tier stories that rangers probably hear all the time, and probably ignore most of the time as well. If they're trying to keep a drug operation hidden out in the woods, what the guy did actually makes a lot more sense, especially when you consider that the people who run those kinds of operations are not amateurs. They know how to hide and stay off the authorities' radar. 2) If it was a drug operation, it is highly probable that they were aware of the hiker long before he got close to their perimeter. Assuming they a) don't want him to stumble on their op, and b) they don't want to give cause for a legit-sounding report to rangers, and c) they don't know whether he *is* a random hiker or a fed disguised as a random hiker, their best bet would be to do what they did--make initial contact to verify he's not friendly, then tail him at a distance until he leaves the area. Looking at it from their perspective, his evasive maneuvers and double backs probably actually made them suspect him more than they otherwise would, and probably were a big part of the reason he was tailed until he left the woods entirely, to ensure he was not a fed in disguise waiting for a chance to double back towards their operation the moment they stopped following him. Feel free to point out any areas I'm assuming too much or not making sense here, but I think this is a very reasonable explanation for these stories that allows for both "Bell Canyon" accounts in the video to be true without relying on either of them, is reinforced by the fact that drug operations HAVE been found in that area, and jives perfectly with other stories of people feeling like they're being watched in the backcountry around that area. It also jives with the reality that drug producers/runners, especially those with large operations and probable connection to the cartels (I can't speak for the ones up in PNW but the ones in the Appalachian backwoods absolutely are), are very cautious, very paranoid, and aren't prone to taking chances that might lead to getting caught. They weren't going to chase him off for the reasons mentioned above. They weren't going to kill him (unless they had no choice), because they're as aware of anyone the kind of thorough search operations that go down when people go missing in national parks--that would almost certainly lead to them getting found out. What's the best choice with the least chance of blowing up on them? Follow him until he leaves.
That is what I thought too. Where I used to work in my country, we were in the country and there were a lot of hills and national parks. The locals knew the look of the drug people. They had black Vans with black windows and usually would come up and down the roads on Harleys. Locals also knew where they were but would not say it to you. Only give you a rough estimation. It was a weed production because when it was time to harvest it was around the same times as one of the local wineries and you could smell them actually sampling the product when the wind would blow a certain direction and I knew they were very close to us and the locals said that they never threatened people but they would try and scare them and use army tactics to creep up on people getting too close. Scared them enough to make them leave and not come back but not enough to tell the cops. Funny thing was the cops knew they were there. It was a small weed production not big enough for the cops to give a sh*t about and they weren't doing any other kinds of drugs but was connected to some kind of biker gang that was providing the cops with their weed. Which I found this information out later from a friend of mine who's a local who seems to get all the information unwillingly. People talk to him without him wanting them too. The guy who sells the weed literally said yeah he gets it from the people in the hills and the cops buy it from him.
I think your explanation makes the most sense. When we lived in a very average suburban area in the bay area, we had some very strange neighbors. Now we lived there for 29 years. The first 20 years the family that lived there was very nice and their son was friends with my son. After they left a series of renters came in. In the last 2-3 years we were there, a young couple moved in. Every day they smoked skunky weed in the backyard. This was after it was legalized in California so whatever... Out of nowhere they started having problems with us. Firstly our morning glories were destroying the fence. When my husband went to talk to them about it they were extremely aggressive and angry. And paranoid. We took the entire plant out. Not worth it to us. Other stuff they yelled at us about: why do you have a camera facing our house?? It's a doorbell camera. Why did you build that structure behind our fence? It's a shed. You're pulling our fence down! No, it's been there about ten years and the wind storms lately are taking it down. YOU PULLED OUR FENCE DOWN, WE HAVE PROOF!! Well, I'd love to see it. Did we pull down all the other fences that came down in the neighborhood during the storm? While throwing the boards of the fence savagely in a pile, someone called the cops to go talk to them. This went on for 2 years. I wasn't ready to move at the time we did but we were really at our wits end with them. Nothing they said made sense. We could do nothing to make them happy. They accused us of all sorts of crazy things. I was so happy to move. After we left, my mother came by to water the sunflowers in the front yard. Again, he had a fit and yelled about this to the new owner. So happy where we live now.
As someone from western Washington who does hike alot, alot of the small communities near the mtns are former mining or logging areas where the industry has for the most part dried up and moved on. There is definitely people who live in the woods here. Drugs are also a big issue in these area, mainly meth but also alot of alcohol abuse. Its not uncommon to be way out in the middle of no where and see someone who looks a bit disheveled walking do the road
@@kkgt6591 'the law' doesnt care about stuff like that, and for the most part thats fine. most of these folks dont hurt anyone else besides looking wrong and having a horrible illness called addiction.
The dude in the thumbnail isn't scared, he's screaming "NO! Now leave me alone!" lolol "like damn bruh, obviously I don't, you asked like 5 times already"
I used to live north of Seattle in Granite Falls, I will tell you the forests are sooo creepy and eerie. In the rainy and cold seasons everything is covered in moss and it's like a fairy forest, beautiful. You can lose your sense of direction so easily. You also get a sense that something is watching you almost always.. The other thing I will say is the opiate and drug crisis is pretty bad there, so there are some strange characters. I used to call them "river people" because they used to smell like musty wet clothes and usually lived by the river.
Mysterious Voice, "Do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon?" Me, "Do you know how they get the caramel inside the caramel bar?" Mysterious Voice, "Ugh... Do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon?" Me, "Do you know how many licks it takes to get to the centre of aTootsie Roll Pop?" Mysterious Voice, "Never mind." 🤪
Resident of Vancouver Island, here. Because you have commented previously on wanting to know the "correct" pronunciations for things, Cowichan is typically pronounced cow-witch-an. Just for your fyi if you want. :) Love your content.
As a former local to the area, there is no way it would take days to hike out from Rainer, unless you want it to. There are too many roads and trails. Sure there are places to get lost, but you can get to trails and roads within a day or so. Most likely Bell's Canyon is a code phrase like you said. I just think it is one for mushroom pickers. They will guard those with just as much vehemence as illegal growers. There are Chantarelle mushrooms that are worth a lot of money and can only be picked at specific times of the year.
The mushroom pickers who sell them commercially are the worst. Hobby harvesting for what you eat is one thing, but these people will stake out whole zones and guard "their" picking spots, even though they're selling a public resource
Stories like these make me glad I have carried whenever I'm out in the woods. Firearms are important tools in the wilderness, if you get lost there's the universal "3 shots to call for help" rule and you can use it for defense against people or animals. If you can, carry a gun when you're going out into the wilderness, you never know when you'll need one. Make sure you do it legally though, and if not an actual gun then CO2 pellet guns look real enough and still sting but are definitely not as good.
my parents have talked about bell's canyon before! it is not a literal canyon. i called them and asked for details: it was a local bootleg-amusement part that opened in the 70s and closed in the 80s or 90s. my parents remember a slide that looked like an elephant trunk, a carousel with horses and zebras, a pig petting zoo, a really really rickety ferris wheel that gave my dad a lifelong phobia, and a rope-climb thing like in military movies. they said there was other stuff too but they don't remember specifics.
Yes. I trail run Bell's Canyon every week. It's in East sandy Utah. It's one of the best hikes in the state if you go all the way to Lone Peek. I totally get why the creep was trying to find it..
Im a Washington native, born and raised here, I cannot express my joy when I see Washington episodes. I think some stories about The Gifford Pinchot National forest & Mt Saint Helens would make me never go back out there but boy would they be good.
As a relatively normal dude who tends to camp out and away from most people. I like to imbibe in whatever and really like hiking around at all hours of the night. I have to wonder how many people thought I was a sasquatch or something. Not trying to scare people but the forest calls, i have a good sense of direction and sometimes there's a seat and hot coals to warm up. Anyway love the show lol
You ever wonder how many times someone watched you or checked your camp out in the middle of the night? My friend was recently robbed while camping with his dog and family close by. Stole bags of hand tools and power tools and some random food and ate it all at night. 5-10 feet away from my buddy sleeping in a tent with a dog and 6 other dogs in camp within 50 feet and 10 plus people. On the east side of Rainer in the woods. They put the enough ziploc bags back in the cooler as a clear message as well as food with bites missing like lunch meat thrown around in slices on the car and on his tent. 2024
This ones almost in my backyard! I live on Hwy 12 east, about 2 hours' drive from Rainier. Have been in the park a couple times, but not hiking. Last time I drove my car partway up the mountain and parked near a waterfall and just sat there and read a book for a while. I wanted to stay longer, but I started to get an eerie feeling, so I left. Was still a beautiful trip. As for creepy experiences, I personally haven't had any big foot related, but my mom has a story passed on from my dad. One day he was out riding his bike and had pulled over on the side of the road for some reason or another and heard something big moving around in the woods. This would've been in the Wynoochee valley, in the Olympics. He didn't think it was a bear and was a bit spooked by it, so he hopped back on his bike and started it up. When it roared to life, whatever was making the sounds tore off through the woods away from him, as if it had been startled. When he went back the next day to see if he could determine what it was, he found a huge pile of poo not far off the road. He'd literally scared the shit out of the thing. Non-bigfoot related, also in the Wynoochee valley, my mom used to go out foraging deep in the forest near where we lived there. One day she was out foraging by herself deep in the woods and came upon a human skeleton. She kept her calm and came back home to call the cops (this would've been in the early 80s, long before cell phones were everywhere). However, by the time they arrived and she led them back out there, the skeleton was gone. I dunno if it was the same day or some days later. As for me personally, a creepy story I have, again from the Wynoochee valley, one day I was out with my mom for a walk deep in the woods. We came upon a natural clearing (meaning, not a clearcut, just a regular meadow, I guess), and were walking through it when we came upon a stump that must have been over 6 foot high, as it was taller than my mom. It was overgrown, so it had been there a while. Every inch of the stump was studded with nails of various lengths. Imagine Pinhead, but a stump full of rusty nails hammered in at various angles. There was no sign anyone had been in the area recently, so it had been sitting there a while, fairly deep in the woods, as I recall. I have some ghost stories from that time, too, but I'm not sure this is the channel for those.
@@geechyguy3441 I like to sleep with my window open and sometimes as I'm drifting off I'll hear the weirdest noises out in the woods. Sometimes its identifiable stuff like screams, but other times is stuff I can't put a name to. I assume its animal noises because its safer then goin out and looking.
@@FarrenDustfur What i heard was a literal howl - a long protracted howl about 5 seconds directed right at me. It was only like 20 meters away from me - when I shined my light I couldn't see a thing. And whatever it was did not move once after the howl - because I waited there about 20 minutes before I started heading back. I got the last part of it on film barely
14:29 AIDAN I LISTEN TO THESE WHILE AT WORK AT NIGHT, that scared me so fucking bad bro. side note i work as a school custodian, im all by myself up here 😭
I've lived in Washington State my entire life (born and raised) and camped and hiked all over the state and yeah, Washington's forests can be super spooky at times.
As a Washington local, I can confirm we do have wild people as you described them. And I would not be shocked if the two stories are true as between us and Oregon we have some weird flipping people out here. Also Lummi is pronounced kinda like yummy, I have friends of that tribe and they would say the same thing.
If I open my tent in the middle of the night and theres a random dude sitting at my Campsite in the middle of frickin nowhere I LEAVE and not continue my trip for 2 more days. And probably never hike again. That shit is terryfiing.
I got a nice little 'short as legally possible' 410 shotty and a 1911 I carry when I go camping innawoods. More than once has someone strolled up on me and gotten weird, and that includes when I was on *private family land*
What Lurks just did this story recently, and Mr. Ballen covered it years ago, so I'm now really excited to hear such an interesting story from one of my favorite narrators!
A bit off topic but I started smoking cigarettes in 9th grade and smoked all throughout high school, to the 8 years in the 82nd 1st/504th (dipped when I couldn’t smoke) and was up to a pack a day until 2015. Than I quit and started vaping 3MG juice up until about 6 months ago, I ordered a Fume and figured it was just a gimmick but it worked for me. I’m not saying it’s a cure all but in my specific situation it worked wonders and for the first time in my adult life I don’t wake up every morning needing to inhale some form of nicotine
I saw something similar when logging in the coastal range in Oregon near Tillamook. No talking but this was definitely an intelligent being as it seemed to watch me and my crew for a while and when we saw it the creature ran away
It was tall and grey and ran down a ridgeline. It made down to a road on the ridge across from where we were logging by our tail hold. It ran fast enough that we could see the dust flying from around 350-400 yards away
Hey, that reminds me of something that happened to me when I was a kid. I'm from Brazil and my parents have a farm in Minas Gerais state, where we were at the time. In this opportunity, a friend of mine from school was there with us. (My mother was the teacher and his mother worked in the school as well.) Either way... It was a long time ago, I was around 10 to 12 years old... And now I'm 46. So, if my memory isn't failing me... We went up a mountain there, on my father's tractor, to see the cows. And, for some reason, we (me and my friend) decided to go back to the farm's house by foot. So, we came following the old road there, which has an open area to one side (our right) and a forest on the other. Getting to a certain point, we stopped, debating something... I don't remember what, but it was probably about toys or something... Then I grabbed a rock and threw in the forest. As it felt... We heard heavy 4 feet steps, running away. Next thing I remember is that we looked at each other and sprinted away to the house. I still don't know what it was... But I'm not sure I want to know either!
@14:29 Well, that's just great. So much for the fairly regular looking, Carhart wearing, well-groomed dude from Val's story... After listening to this vocalization, my inner dialogue decided to recast the part of "stranger in the woods" in my imagination. This means that the role that was previously being played by a mid 1980's Matt Dillon, has been hijacked by the character, Zelda, from Pet Semetery, circa 1989. As if she needed more lines than just, "Raaaachel! Raaaaachelllll!" Now I'll forever picture HER following me whenever I'm out in the wilderness alone. Thanks a lot, Aiden.
Grew up out on the woods of Western Washington, my parents still live out in those same woods.... I mean.... Green River killer was a thing i remembered geowing uo with and eventually aged INTO his victim pool group. Having spent a lot of time hiking, mountain biking, horseback riding and camping all over the Olympics and Cascades from the late '80's to today.... There is weird shit out in the woods, and there are even weirder folks out there, that can look pretty normal. Can confirm, facts. My dad knew a few former military men that went Orivate Investigators, and there was a point where they would stop following a lead/person. If they went past Belfair, out towsrds Tahuya... Yup. That was a big ile "Nope! Not going out there." We lived on a dead end road right by a gate into a tree farm for the longest time. Like, you could walk fifty or so feet from our front door to the tree farm gate in the woods. And let me tell you, there quitw a few times i would wake up in the night with my dad talking to County Sheriff's, with their party cruiser lights going BECAUSE there was a car chase to that gate. My dad ALSO knew the tree farm security/maintenance men from years of living by that gate. So many strange stories and YET my dad had purchased a seasonal pass every year so we could ride out on the trails and logging service roads if we couldn't get out in the actual mountains. Loads of weird stuff happened. Was not uncommon finding things that most folks would find odd, yet eventually, it becomes somewhat "normal" to those that live there. *shrugs* i live in the Midwest now and have been here for about 10 years now and yeah, pretty much similar oddities here that those that have been born and raised here dont find odd, but perfectly normal that i find a bit... Unnerving. Eh. Every place has their weirdness.
All the college students that move here kinda ruined the state, but i gotta stick up for the people born here lol. Everyone I know that goes out past paved roads is stapped up for sure. Stuff like this is why I always bring spare mags and a thermal monocular when I'm backpacking.@TheLoreLodge
I have little doubt that this has happened at least a few times, even if the first instance was a creepypasta. Once something like this goes viral, it tends to cause copycats who read the story and think "that would be fun to do," and so a fictional meme becomes a real story.
We call it Tahoma, that's it's native name, just small correction. Great story! I live real close to Black Diamond, will make some time go go hike the area when weather allows.
I grew up right by the green river I recognized that photo instantly!! Hell yeah many great memories down there. Love when you cover things from the Pacific Northwest
Yes AIDENS! Thank you for listen to us doing cases like Joan's are good and I know you like doing recently out cases to help, but THIS, THIS KINDA VIDEO IS WHY I SUBSCRIBED TO THIS CHANNEL! ..... For a while It was a little Shakey that I was gonna stay around, but you two swallowed your pride and adjusted AND YOU PULLED ME BACK IN BOYZ!!!!😂
If you watch a movie called Backcountry, it really gives you a feel for what it’s like to be out in the middle of the woods and to have some random dude just sort of show up and not leave. It’s set in Canada and is actually a really horrifying movie, graphic as all hell, but it really does a good job of giving you that feeling of “he looks normal but this isn’t right”. If you’re on a busy trail in the summer, yeah you’re going to see people, but when you’re way off in wilderness like that in a non-touristy area it feels incredibly WRONG to have someone just standing around your campsite.
@ yeah we don’t really do that in Canada haha, it all has to be unloaded and locked up and only hunting rifles are allowed in most places. We do carry bear spray though, and you better believe I will “accidentally think a stalker is a bear” if I’m in that situation!
Mrballen led me to you, so I am completely stoked you are doing one of his stories.. I'd love to hear you do more of them. ❤ xoxo love you guys. Mrballen Wendigoon Lore Lodge My 3 favorites !! You three make my day's so much better
so what I heard was someone encountered a tweaker on the trail, 4 characteristics stand out 1, homeless and living in the forest 2.mentally ill 3.yelling 4.odd,stalking behaviour sounds like a tweaker to me
I grew up in Oregon and spent years exploring the forests and mountains there. There is definitely something not quite ordinary in Oregon and Washington. Couldn't tell you quite what it was but there is definitely something. If there ever was a place for a rarely seen humanoid species to exist that area would be a great place to hide.
Reminds me a lot of the stories from The Mothman Prophecies where random strange people would just approach people and ask them a series of odd questions ...
I knew someone long ago that told me they were hunting in Alaska for a week solo, and said he absolutely had two nights where he was certain, there was a human, screwing with him, in the back country. It creeped him out because he was flown in, and when he was experiencing it. It was night, and where he was hearing it. There was no flashlights, just his. He ended up calling out for a pickup, early, and leaving, because he didn't want to be there. Big burly guy, very practical, no-nonsense kind of individual. "It was just very uncomfortable noises at night that was not attributed to moose, bear, wolf, Elk or any animal that is large." This dude doesn't talk about bigfoot or even cares. Stuck with me and I just remembered it.
OH, he also said whatever it was acted like a pack of wolves containing a kill. Loud, "testing the electrical fence" style behavior. In close to camp and than out to safety, but zero canine noises. Just other unrecognizable vocals and lots of disturbed foliage noises.
Reason 1,934,527 why I don’t go camping. I live in Oregon and can see Mt Hood and Mt St Helens from my house on a clear day. I’m content to enjoy them from afar.
Im 22 now but when i 13 i was out hunting with my dad in Mendocino National forest in northern California, we had drove around a lot and hiked all over when we were going along this road next to a cliffside with a stream at the bottom. When we on the road we came across a older man with his rifle looking down over the cliff side and we decided to stop and see if he has seen any deer in the area. This man had a weird vibe and he turned around deadpan looked at my dad and said "i got people in my sights" and went back to aiming down the cliffside. I was very unsettled and my dad could tell something was off about him so we just continued to drive down slowly and than look down the cliff side to see a family swimming in the water. I just remember my dad saying no matter where you are no matter what animals can be out in the wilderness humans are the most dangerous thing you can come across.
The idea that this was some tweaked out dude who was told “go here and ask the guy you see there about bells canyon and he’ll sell you drugs” but got lost and was just desperately trying to score and then hoping the op was going to either lead him to the drugs, or lead him out was the best explanation I have seen for this( alleged) encounter.
I must either be really unlucky or really lucky because i grew up in the area and spent a ton of time in the woods, a behavior learned from my father who basically spent his childhood surviving alone in these forests and neither of us ever saw or experienced anything.
I’ve watched so many of this guys videos and this is the only one that’s ever made my skin crawl. I need to talk to that og redditor. The idea of opening my tent and seeing a person just sitting there and then running away makes me sick.
I'm responsible for dozens(if not hundreds) of bigfoot "sightings". I used to live close to a national forest, my favorite pass time was pranking the tourist campers on weekends and through the summer. I wouldn't try that now though simply because people are a lot more trigger happy now than they were 20-30 years ago.
Im from the Netherlands, we do not have stories like this here. I drove through Tillamook NP with my husband and 2year old in 2018. At one stage we needed to get out of the car on this desolate parkspot next to a high cliff, in the middle of dense forest. I have never felt such a scary feeling creeping over me, as if i have been watched. Later we learned about bigfoot stories etc and now im into stories like Aiden is telling here. Just because i understand, i know the feeling of being watched now and i cannot let go how eerie this felt. And..I want to understand..I have traveled quite a bit, but the way I felt there, I have never experienced it somewere else.
Was laying in my bed in Seattle…listening to this while there is a man (homeless? Drugs? Not sure) walking up and down in front of my house - 1:30 in the morning - wailing and moaning in a really creepy way 😳 really set the mood
I REALLY want a bumper sticker that says "Do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon?" just to see who recognizes it. Good way to make friends. 🤣
I love that! New merch. 😁
I’d buy one ❤
I didn't need it till you mentioned it 😂😂
Nah fam. We need one that says Celtic Mommy Goddesses and the Wailing Fairies of Death
Mrballen!
14:29 nearly gave me a heart attack, that may be the scariest sound you’ve ever made 😂
Fr I nearly shat myself 😅
I dunno what's coming, but I'm grateful to have a warning lol
I forgot the timestamp and got startled :( lol
@@bloodyneptunebruh💀
Literally listening to this with one earbud in while I do my nightly pre-bed routine, and my guy decides to go full Will Ramos in my ear. My stomach flooded with ice water. 😂
The dog, only mildly concerned about the screaming...
@@emilycooper173 he’s used to it
@@TheLoreLodge 😂
that was so cute, the little side-eye
we need the full version of this shredded metal song featuring the "DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO BELLS CANON?!!!" scream.
Amity Affliction style?
@@thegrimlooper yesss, with a touch of waking the cadaver "chased through the woods by a rapist" vibe. we need bells canyon shredded wheat!
Thats what I was coming to say! If he did that effortlessly, which it seems he did, it would be really cool to see a song featuring that scream.
Is that your real pfp? If so, holy crap you're gorgeous
Out of all the topics the channel's covered, this is the one that's made me lose sleep. Something about a "normal guy" being out where no human should be asking nonsense questions from the dark is imo spookier than any seemingly paranormal disappearance or murder.
It's Washington, so if it was going to happen somewhere, it doesn't surprise me it's there... I think between Washington and Oregon, there are many more of these incidents that go untold. I grew up in the shadow of Mt. Rainer as a kid in the 80's and early 90's. That means you also grow up in the shadows of all those serial killers. I hiked some decent Mt. Rainer trails as a kid, even had a picture of me taken while leaning against a random post in the ground over a cliff (to this day, I can't believe that was even a thing).
Kinda weird that he even spoke to the guy for a bit? I'd be freaked out as hell and at least try to immediately see who I'm talking to.
I mean, look at that guy who died recently. Just out hunting, meets a seemingly normal guy, they share a beer, and then said seemingly normal guy kills him and it looks so bad that people think a bear did it
@@rosesweetcharlotteI guess sometimes “hoping for the best” is actually the worst thing you can do 😮😢 crime weekly covered this case and it really baffled me
@@thegrimlooper I mean, there is a reason women typically prefer the bear.
If possible, can there be a playlist created labeled something along the lines of "Videos That I'm Kinda Pissed Didn't do Better", please? The title doesn't need to be exactly that, but just express a similar sentiment. That title would be pretty funny, though.
No, I demand that the playlist be titled exactly as @daytwaqua suggested. I would be willing to accept strategic wildcard characters inserted as necessary if required by UA-cam.
I need this playlist in my life
I also motion for this.
Here here
Agreed, motion passed😂
A couple years back, I was hiking an 8 miler (in Appalachia, not the PNW) and I kept hearing voices. There were no cars in the lot besides rangers because it was a crappy day and it's not a well known park. I had my dog with me, and she heard it, too. First indication something was weird was my dog kept looking at the same spot and growling. As we were heading up a mountain, you couldn't see that spot for too long, but she'd always turn back that way and act nervous. I just assumed there was a turkey or something hiding in the brush that she could smell but neither of us could see. When we got to the top of the first ridge, I was staring out thinking how nice it would be to have land out that way, and I hear, "Hey," from behind me. Like, directly behind me. Before I can even turn around my dog's barking and whining and guarding me. No one's there. So now I have my knife out because I'm actually scared for the first time in a long time. There are houses on the highway into this place, but it's too far for voices to have traveled like that, and it was also coming from the wrong direction. So we keep walking, because we're at the halfway point and I'm in for another 4 miles regardless of if I'd turned around or not. At almost the peak, my dog starts looking back the way we'd come and growling again. I just kept telling her to keep moving. I was freaking out and hoping me being nervous was making her nervous and it was nothing, the voice before had surely just been one that somehow floated up from the nearest house the better part of a mile from where we'd been. Kept walking, and as I'm trying to dismiss everything, I hear a different voice. Sounded like a maybe 5-7 year old kid. Just said, "No!" Not a yell, just forcefully, like someone who's putting their foot down. Again, my dog is freaking out and barking in the direction it came from. As it sounded like a kid, I yelled out, "Hey, are you ok?" It's a super rural place and there are bears, so if some kid had gotten lost up there, somehow, it would be wrong not to help. No reply. Nothing. It was around this time I noticed that all the birds and squirrels that I'd heard moving around earlier were silent. It was February, so I told myself it was just because nothing was active in the cold. So we carried on. Heading back down, there was a hearth right off the trail. It blocked the wind nicely, so my dog and I took a moment to sit in it and eat. I could only see right in front of us, but could clearly hear footsteps coming the way we'd just been. I froze, trying to hear better, to make sure the wind wasn't playing tricks on me. Dog starts growling again. The footsteps stop immediately. I'm trying to get her to stop, but can't. I had a tiny bit of service, being so high up, so I sent my mom a text telling her this place is weird, and to call rangers to the trail I'd gone down if she didn't hear from me by dark. I didn't have enough service to go online and get the ranger station's number. Still no footsteps. I let go of my dog and she runs back the way we'd come, just standing there with her head low and her fur raised. No one there. We're less than 3 miles from my car, and it's all downhill from there, and I moved as fast as I could without eating dirt going down that mountain. The birds didn't come back until we reached the road. I swear it was as soon as I could see pavement, I could also hear wildlife. Until then, it had just been the sounds of me and my dog walking for miles. No traffic, no animals, only walking and breathing and wind. And random voices, twice. There's still no one else parked there. It's almost sunset. The ranger station is closing, and the guy parked outside of it says, "We were just about to go looking for you. Your car's been the only one here all day and we were hoping no one was lost!" I didn't mention the weird stuff I'd heard on my hike, but I asked why there weren't any animals along the trail. He said he had no idea what I was talking about, that he summits the mountains there often to ensure the trails are clear and he's never heard it quiet. He suggested there might be a bear in the area, but bears don't say "hey" and "no" last I'd checked. No reports of similar things happening so far as I could find online, but I did find that there used to be a prison at the base of the mountain, and one nearby that was still in operation, and had some people on Reddit say there might have been an escapee stalking me. But there was never any evidence of anyone else up there besides sounds. It was late winter. There was no undergrowth to hide in. Unless someone was skinny enough to hide behind a tree (you'd have to be anorexic, because almost none of them were larger than a 10" diameter) or fast enough to hide under leaves by the time I could turn around, I don't buy it. Someone else said it was ghosts. Not sure I buy that either. But I have no idea what was happening, and I still refused to go back there unless I have people with me to witness anything weird. My dog can verify for me that something is there, but having seen her acting like that doesn't prove anything to anyone else.
This story deserves many more Likes.
The thing is, no matter what it was, you had every reason to be scared and freaking out. Your dog was acting weird, you were not feeling right. Those are reasons enough to get out of there
Could have been some kind of elemental or fae. Can’t see them and they will talk. 😊✌🏻
Thank you for taking the time to share your story, I found it very interesting. I'm sorry that I cannot offer any ideas but that is very strange indeed. Animals are more in tune with and reliant upon "gut feelings" and, unlike we humans, they cannot rationalize them away. I have a rule that gut feelings always mean something and I need to figure that out, if possible; I never ignore them. The event may be trivial but there are things our minds see and sense that our conscious thoughts do not. Those of our ancestors that learned to ignore that didn't reproduce often. We may not need those senses today as in the past but ignore them at our peril.
were you in southern ny, catskills region by any chance?
I immediately came to the same conclusion. Bell's Canyon is a code phrase for a drug ring or shelter. The fact they didn't act normally is completely in line with someone with mental disabilities or drug issues. The description of the three individuals on the road looking like zombies (meth use) or half naked in ripped clothing is completely believable for our state.
You know, the more of these videos I watch, the more sure I am that going outside, partying, or interacting with people in general is just a bad idea. Being severely introverted is a survival tactic I swear.
Being severely introverted myself as well….I approve and back this theory 😂 my uncle and I went to a shooting range recently and someone he knew waved him down to say hi. After the encounter my uncle told me they tried to be friends with him but were a little too much for drama and he was friendly but avoided them further than that. When I said I did that with everyone, he replied “yeah, much safer that way.” And all I thought was…he gets it lol
To me, it’s very simple. Stay out of the woods and you won’t end up in one of these videos 😂
Nah, as a long time introvert, the woods are fine if you know what you're doing out there. I spend most of my free time in the woods. And I was drunk a lot of the time I was in the wilderness. Not safer than a bubble but a lot more fun.
I’m an extroverted introvert- prefer quiet and solitude aside from family or close friends, but have learned to interact and be friendly/professional in proper settings. Simple answer is to do what you want, but stay strapped. Everyone understands what it means when they see the deep black hole of a muzzle aimed at them, especially if they’re acting hostile.
I Get IT!
I love this channel. I live near Mt Rainier, I can see the mountain’s peak from my backyard and I go camping several times a year, but I’ve only camped once near Rainier. I don’t have a scary story or anything interesting to say about camping, I’ve never experienced anything weird, but these stories do work to keep me always vigilant when I am out in the woods. There is just so much nothing out there in the forest, it’s impossible to explain how alone you feel to someone who has never been there; I personally believe that all 3 of those first stories could have happened, or at least that the story tellers believe that they happened. Another awesome video dude, thank you for what you do.
Mr Ballen did this story a while back and it has haunted me ever since. Upon watching this I realized there was a new level to which this story could haunt me and it has been unlocked, so, thanks for the nightmares.
Can you link mr ballens video on this?
Yes, please! Would be awesome to watch both videos, back to back. Hello from Washington state! @@VengeanceAngel
That's why I love The Lore Lodge.
Good to know.
It's the first story I ever heard him tell.
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I listen to these often while doing a task or driving, and this particular one I was driving and 14:30 made me almost jump out of my seat lmao, one way to make sure I’m still awake
I have a friend who is an FBI agent who was bow hunting in Oregon. At the end of the day he made the choice to head back camp, he was off trail and a heavy fog came in. He was using OnX for navigation and suddenly someone was behind him in the fog screaming and growling, just behind the veil of the fog. Apparently they are mountain dwellers who live outside year round and practice this type of action to scare people away.
I genuinely believe that this is what the Bigfoot sightings are. When people say why hasn't any dead Bigfoots been found, it's not that they haven't, it's more that people are looking for the wrong thing. They are looking for an ape-like creature. There are skeletal remains regularly found in the wilderness, these are almost certainly remains of these mountain dwellers. The hairy thing can easily be explained away by them wearing pelts.
I do not doubt that one bit. Meth heads as well do similar type behavior so depending on where he was bow hunting, I'm not one bit surprised. I worked law enforcement out in Oregon for almost a decade & just like the shadows of Mt. Rainer, there's some very strange individuals.
I don’t believe you give me all his security information in detail plus his social security number
I don't believe it. Fbi would have side arm and pursue. Or they are too soft from covid shots 😂
To be fair, screaming and growling at feds is understandable
17:48 "looked right out of a zombie movie" sounds like Seattle/Tacoma tweakers that crawled out of the city
Plenty of tweakers out in SnoHo county! Everett in particular has gotten REALLY bad.
alternatively the philadelphia fent folders. philly vs seattle tweaker who’s winnin
Yeah. 1000 percent.
Tweakers aren’t gonna be anywhere near Skykomish
My bet is some kind of drug thing, either a grow operation or maybe a moderate-scale meth production setup out in the woods. I get your point about the person being more likely to chase someone away if they did not reply to the code question correctly, but depending on the size and sophistication of the operation, it might actually have been more in their interest to follow him if he was close but not right up on them, for a couple reasons.
1) If they chased the hiker away or threatened violence, not only does that increase the likelihood of a report to park rangers, but more importantly, it *also* increases the likelihood of park rangers taking it seriously and investigating, because it would sound like someone trying to keep hikers away from something. Whereas what he did, if reported to rangers, comes across as the kind of "creepy dude out in the woods" Bigfoot-tier stories that rangers probably hear all the time, and probably ignore most of the time as well. If they're trying to keep a drug operation hidden out in the woods, what the guy did actually makes a lot more sense, especially when you consider that the people who run those kinds of operations are not amateurs. They know how to hide and stay off the authorities' radar.
2) If it was a drug operation, it is highly probable that they were aware of the hiker long before he got close to their perimeter. Assuming they a) don't want him to stumble on their op, and b) they don't want to give cause for a legit-sounding report to rangers, and c) they don't know whether he *is* a random hiker or a fed disguised as a random hiker, their best bet would be to do what they did--make initial contact to verify he's not friendly, then tail him at a distance until he leaves the area. Looking at it from their perspective, his evasive maneuvers and double backs probably actually made them suspect him more than they otherwise would, and probably were a big part of the reason he was tailed until he left the woods entirely, to ensure he was not a fed in disguise waiting for a chance to double back towards their operation the moment they stopped following him.
Feel free to point out any areas I'm assuming too much or not making sense here, but I think this is a very reasonable explanation for these stories that allows for both "Bell Canyon" accounts in the video to be true without relying on either of them, is reinforced by the fact that drug operations HAVE been found in that area, and jives perfectly with other stories of people feeling like they're being watched in the backcountry around that area.
It also jives with the reality that drug producers/runners, especially those with large operations and probable connection to the cartels (I can't speak for the ones up in PNW but the ones in the Appalachian backwoods absolutely are), are very cautious, very paranoid, and aren't prone to taking chances that might lead to getting caught. They weren't going to chase him off for the reasons mentioned above. They weren't going to kill him (unless they had no choice), because they're as aware of anyone the kind of thorough search operations that go down when people go missing in national parks--that would almost certainly lead to them getting found out. What's the best choice with the least chance of blowing up on them? Follow him until he leaves.
That is what I thought too.
Where I used to work in my country, we were in the country and there were a lot of hills and national parks.
The locals knew the look of the drug people. They had black Vans with black windows and usually would come up and down the roads on Harleys. Locals also knew where they were but would not say it to you. Only give you a rough estimation. It was a weed production because when it was time to harvest it was around the same times as one of the local wineries and you could smell them actually sampling the product when the wind would blow a certain direction and I knew they were very close to us and the locals said that they never threatened people but they would try and scare them and use army tactics to creep up on people getting too close. Scared them enough to make them leave and not come back but not enough to tell the cops.
Funny thing was the cops knew they were there. It was a small weed production not big enough for the cops to give a sh*t about and they weren't doing any other kinds of drugs but was connected to some kind of biker gang that was providing the cops with their weed.
Which I found this information out later from a friend of mine who's a local who seems to get all the information unwillingly. People talk to him without him wanting them too. The guy who sells the weed literally said yeah he gets it from the people in the hills and the cops buy it from him.
I think your explanation makes the most sense. When we lived in a very average suburban area in the bay area, we had some very strange neighbors. Now we lived there for 29 years. The first 20 years the family that lived there was very nice and their son was friends with my son. After they left a series of renters came in. In the last 2-3 years we were there, a young couple moved in. Every day they smoked skunky weed in the backyard. This was after it was legalized in California so whatever...
Out of nowhere they started having problems with us. Firstly our morning glories were destroying the fence. When my husband went to talk to them about it they were extremely aggressive and angry. And paranoid. We took the entire plant out. Not worth it to us. Other stuff they yelled at us about: why do you have a camera facing our house?? It's a doorbell camera. Why did you build that structure behind our fence? It's a shed. You're pulling our fence down! No, it's been there about ten years and the wind storms lately are taking it down. YOU PULLED OUR FENCE DOWN, WE HAVE PROOF!! Well, I'd love to see it. Did we pull down all the other fences that came down in the neighborhood during the storm? While throwing the boards of the fence savagely in a pile, someone called the cops to go talk to them. This went on for 2 years. I wasn't ready to move at the time we did but we were really at our wits end with them. Nothing they said made sense. We could do nothing to make them happy. They accused us of all sorts of crazy things. I was so happy to move. After we left, my mother came by to water the sunflowers in the front yard. Again, he had a fit and yelled about this to the new owner.
So happy where we live now.
As someone from western Washington who does hike alot, alot of the small communities near the mtns are former mining or logging areas where the industry has for the most part dried up and moved on. There is definitely people who live in the woods here. Drugs are also a big issue in these area, mainly meth but also alot of alcohol abuse. Its not uncommon to be way out in the middle of no where and see someone who looks a bit disheveled walking do the road
From the area, can agree. A guy was hanging out in front of our local Mexican Mart and told us how a strawberry drink tastes really good with meth.
How about the law? Is help available in case something happens.
@@kkgt6591 'the law' doesnt care about stuff like that, and for the most part thats fine. most of these folks dont hurt anyone else besides looking wrong and having a horrible illness called addiction.
@@kkgt6591 Is help available? Yes. Will it get there in time? Usually not.
Agreed. As a rule of thumb never attribute to the supernatural what can be adequately explained by meth use.
The dude in the thumbnail isn't scared, he's screaming "NO! Now leave me alone!" lolol "like damn bruh, obviously I don't, you asked like 5 times already"
LOL, Or, do you have any toilet paper?
@@corey9848 😂😂😂😂
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET TO BELLS CANYON!!???
0:41 using the youtube opening sound to censor murder is so comedic 😂
Hava Nagila would be WAY MORE APPROPRIATE!!
I used to live north of Seattle in Granite Falls, I will tell you the forests are sooo creepy and eerie. In the rainy and cold seasons everything is covered in moss and it's like a fairy forest, beautiful. You can lose your sense of direction so easily. You also get a sense that something is watching you almost always.. The other thing I will say is the opiate and drug crisis is pretty bad there, so there are some strange characters. I used to call them "river people" because they used to smell like musty wet clothes and usually lived by the river.
Mysterious Voice, "Do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon?"
Me, "Do you know how they get the caramel inside the caramel bar?"
Mysterious Voice, "Ugh... Do you know how to get to Bell's Canyon?"
Me, "Do you know how many licks it takes to get to the centre of aTootsie Roll Pop?"
Mysterious Voice, "Never mind." 🤪
Resident of Vancouver Island, here. Because you have commented previously on wanting to know the "correct" pronunciations for things, Cowichan is typically pronounced cow-witch-an. Just for your fyi if you want. :) Love your content.
14:29 Phil Labonte would be proud of those vocals, man
Anti communist and counter revolutionary...
LOL right? Surprisingly metal
@@derekmcmanus8615I know, labonte is the goat
@@derekmcmanus8615 and also a musician so failed that he got to open for Metallica, Megadeth, and share the stage with Five Finger Death Punch
I was today years old when I realized Phil was on tim pools podcast
As a former local to the area, there is no way it would take days to hike out from Rainer, unless you want it to. There are too many roads and trails. Sure there are places to get lost, but you can get to trails and roads within a day or so. Most likely Bell's Canyon is a code phrase like you said. I just think it is one for mushroom pickers. They will guard those with just as much vehemence as illegal growers. There are Chantarelle mushrooms that are worth a lot of money and can only be picked at specific times of the year.
And there are areas where it is illegal to pick mushrooms at all, making the secrecy even more important.
@Catman_CM very true. When I lived in the area someone had gotten killed over mushroom picking sites.
The mushroom pickers who sell them commercially are the worst. Hobby harvesting for what you eat is one thing, but these people will stake out whole zones and guard "their" picking spots, even though they're selling a public resource
Stories like these make me glad I have carried whenever I'm out in the woods. Firearms are important tools in the wilderness, if you get lost there's the universal "3 shots to call for help" rule and you can use it for defense against people or animals. If you can, carry a gun when you're going out into the wilderness, you never know when you'll need one. Make sure you do it legally though, and if not an actual gun then CO2 pellet guns look real enough and still sting but are definitely not as good.
Tools. Huh. What a concept.
If only my Canadian Govt Goblins would stop trying to take all these tools away....
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This guy gets it, stay strapped my friend
I can't imagine these are true stories.
@@a.kinsman Have you considered euthanasia?
t. Medicare.
Stay strapped or get clapped brother
As someone who lives near Mt Rainer I can confirm that people do live in the forest and cults and other groups as well
As someone who lives in the forest near Mt Rainier I wanted to ask if you by any chance know how to get to Bells Canyon?
This is my favourite type of podcast you do. The Lore Lodge at its best. Scary for someone who lives out in the woods like me.
Mt. Rainier is referred to as “Tahoma” not “Tacoma” by natives historically. Tacoma is the city in the southern Puget Sound. It’s also my middle name!
Yeah I think I just misspoke on that one
The Puyallup tribe calls it Tahoma. Tacoma is an ancligaziation of the Lushootseed word for the mountain.
@@mml100pinkyou mean "anglicization"?
Dude, we really just need a great, "BLEGH!" from you. I knew you were a metal head!
Lets talk bout yo mama son😅
@@ThePunisher-si8ex HUH⁉️
my parents have talked about bell's canyon before! it is not a literal canyon. i called them and asked for details:
it was a local bootleg-amusement part that opened in the 70s and closed in the 80s or 90s. my parents remember a slide that looked like an elephant trunk, a carousel with horses and zebras, a pig petting zoo, a really really rickety ferris wheel that gave my dad a lifelong phobia, and a rope-climb thing like in military movies. they said there was other stuff too but they don't remember specifics.
@@blaineishere3851 that just makes the whole thing even weirder 😂 do they recall where it was?
This sort of makes sense. It would probably sound insane unless you knew what it was
There's footage of it somewhere on the Tube. Overgrown. Rusted. Not all that exciting.
Yes. I trail run Bell's Canyon every week. It's in East sandy Utah. It's one of the best hikes in the state if you go all the way to Lone Peek. I totally get why the creep was trying to find it..
Im a Washington native, born and raised here, I cannot express my joy when I see Washington episodes. I think some stories about The Gifford Pinchot National forest & Mt Saint Helens would make me never go back out there but boy would they be good.
Washington Episodes make my heart happy
DUDE YOU FREAKED THE S OUT OF ME AT 14:29, I WAS NOT PREPARED. But regardless, I like it.
This was amazing 🥰 i did that superchat on the MrBallen livestream
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As a relatively normal dude who tends to camp out and away from most people. I like to imbibe in whatever and really like hiking around at all hours of the night. I have to wonder how many people thought I was a sasquatch or something. Not trying to scare people but the forest calls, i have a good sense of direction and sometimes there's a seat and hot coals to warm up. Anyway love the show lol
You ever wonder how many times someone watched you or checked your camp out in the middle of the night? My friend was recently robbed while camping with his dog and family close by. Stole bags of hand tools and power tools and some random food and ate it all at night. 5-10 feet away from my buddy sleeping in a tent with a dog and 6 other dogs in camp within 50 feet and 10 plus people. On the east side of Rainer in the woods. They put the enough ziploc bags back in the cooler as a clear message as well as food with bites missing like lunch meat thrown around in slices on the car and on his tent. 2024
The screaming vocals tho 😮
I HAD MY VOLUME MAXXED- MY EEAAARRRSS XD
I have that issue with lots of different channel videos. Sucks especially at night when I'm trying to be quiet without earphones. 🫤
You know that somewhere out there, there’s a picture of 13 year old Aidan with a fringe and neon sweatbands
Right??? And right when i walked into a dark room!!! Sheeeeesh!!!
@@simonlarge2052 oh my I choked on coffee totally worth it😂😂thank you!
The UA-cam button and chime censor was absolute perfection 👌😂 I hope it spreads!
This ones almost in my backyard! I live on Hwy 12 east, about 2 hours' drive from Rainier. Have been in the park a couple times, but not hiking. Last time I drove my car partway up the mountain and parked near a waterfall and just sat there and read a book for a while. I wanted to stay longer, but I started to get an eerie feeling, so I left. Was still a beautiful trip. As for creepy experiences, I personally haven't had any big foot related, but my mom has a story passed on from my dad. One day he was out riding his bike and had pulled over on the side of the road for some reason or another and heard something big moving around in the woods. This would've been in the Wynoochee valley, in the Olympics. He didn't think it was a bear and was a bit spooked by it, so he hopped back on his bike and started it up. When it roared to life, whatever was making the sounds tore off through the woods away from him, as if it had been startled. When he went back the next day to see if he could determine what it was, he found a huge pile of poo not far off the road. He'd literally scared the shit out of the thing. Non-bigfoot related, also in the Wynoochee valley, my mom used to go out foraging deep in the forest near where we lived there. One day she was out foraging by herself deep in the woods and came upon a human skeleton. She kept her calm and came back home to call the cops (this would've been in the early 80s, long before cell phones were everywhere). However, by the time they arrived and she led them back out there, the skeleton was gone. I dunno if it was the same day or some days later. As for me personally, a creepy story I have, again from the Wynoochee valley, one day I was out with my mom for a walk deep in the woods. We came upon a natural clearing (meaning, not a clearcut, just a regular meadow, I guess), and were walking through it when we came upon a stump that must have been over 6 foot high, as it was taller than my mom. It was overgrown, so it had been there a while. Every inch of the stump was studded with nails of various lengths. Imagine Pinhead, but a stump full of rusty nails hammered in at various angles. There was no sign anyone had been in the area recently, so it had been sitting there a while, fairly deep in the woods, as I recall. I have some ghost stories from that time, too, but I'm not sure this is the channel for those.
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@gallahaggis I'm in lewis county now, but yes
Just a couple months back I heard an insane sound while solo hiking out near Middle Fork Snoqualmie
@@geechyguy3441 I like to sleep with my window open and sometimes as I'm drifting off I'll hear the weirdest noises out in the woods. Sometimes its identifiable stuff like screams, but other times is stuff I can't put a name to. I assume its animal noises because its safer then goin out and looking.
@@FarrenDustfur What i heard was a literal howl - a long protracted howl about 5 seconds directed right at me. It was only like 20 meters away from me - when I shined my light I couldn't see a thing. And whatever it was did not move once after the howl - because I waited there about 20 minutes before I started heading back. I got the last part of it on film barely
Love our mountain, & Respect the spooky areas…
14:29 AIDAN I LISTEN TO THESE WHILE AT WORK AT NIGHT, that scared me so fucking bad bro. side note i work as a school custodian, im all by myself up here 😭
I've lived in Washington State my entire life (born and raised) and camped and hiked all over the state and yeah, Washington's forests can be super spooky at times.
As a Washington local, I can confirm we do have wild people as you described them. And I would not be shocked if the two stories are true as between us and Oregon we have some weird flipping people out here. Also Lummi is pronounced kinda like yummy, I have friends of that tribe and they would say the same thing.
If I open my tent in the middle of the night and theres a random dude sitting at my Campsite in the middle of frickin nowhere I LEAVE and not continue my trip for 2 more days. And probably never hike again. That shit is terryfiing.
I got a nice little 'short as legally possible' 410 shotty and a 1911 I carry when I go camping innawoods. More than once has someone strolled up on me and gotten weird, and that includes when I was on *private family land*
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What Lurks just did this story recently, and Mr. Ballen covered it years ago, so I'm now really excited to hear such an interesting story from one of my favorite narrators!
Always a better day, when Lore Lodge drops a Vid 💯
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I saw something similar when logging in the coastal range in Oregon near Tillamook. No talking but this was definitely an intelligent being as it seemed to watch me and my crew for a while and when we saw it the creature ran away
could you elaborate on this? what did it do and what did it look like
It was tall and grey and ran down a ridgeline. It made down to a road on the ridge across from where we were logging by our tail hold. It ran fast enough that we could see the dust flying from around 350-400 yards away
Bells canyon 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 one of my favorite Mrballen stories! Thanks for covering! & bonus Lore Pup
Hey, that reminds me of something that happened to me when I was a kid.
I'm from Brazil and my parents have a farm in Minas Gerais state, where we were at the time. In this opportunity, a friend of mine from school was there with us. (My mother was the teacher and his mother worked in the school as well.)
Either way... It was a long time ago, I was around 10 to 12 years old... And now I'm 46.
So, if my memory isn't failing me... We went up a mountain there, on my father's tractor, to see the cows. And, for some reason, we (me and my friend) decided to go back to the farm's house by foot.
So, we came following the old road there, which has an open area to one side (our right) and a forest on the other.
Getting to a certain point, we stopped, debating something... I don't remember what, but it was probably about toys or something... Then I grabbed a rock and threw in the forest. As it felt... We heard heavy 4 feet steps, running away.
Next thing I remember is that we looked at each other and sprinted away to the house.
I still don't know what it was... But I'm not sure I want to know either!
Your videos are the only thing I can listen to when I study.
@14:29 Well, that's just great. So much for the fairly regular looking, Carhart wearing, well-groomed dude from Val's story... After listening to this vocalization, my inner dialogue decided to recast the part of "stranger in the woods" in my imagination. This means that the role that was previously being played by a mid 1980's Matt Dillon, has been hijacked by the character, Zelda, from Pet Semetery, circa 1989. As if she needed more lines than just, "Raaaachel! Raaaaachelllll!" Now I'll forever picture HER following me whenever I'm out in the wilderness alone. Thanks a lot, Aiden.
Grew up out on the woods of Western Washington, my parents still live out in those same woods.... I mean.... Green River killer was a thing i remembered geowing uo with and eventually aged INTO his victim pool group. Having spent a lot of time hiking, mountain biking, horseback riding and camping all over the Olympics and Cascades from the late '80's to today.... There is weird shit out in the woods, and there are even weirder folks out there, that can look pretty normal. Can confirm, facts.
My dad knew a few former military men that went Orivate Investigators, and there was a point where they would stop following a lead/person. If they went past Belfair, out towsrds Tahuya... Yup. That was a big ile "Nope! Not going out there."
We lived on a dead end road right by a gate into a tree farm for the longest time. Like, you could walk fifty or so feet from our front door to the tree farm gate in the woods. And let me tell you, there quitw a few times i would wake up in the night with my dad talking to County Sheriff's, with their party cruiser lights going BECAUSE there was a car chase to that gate. My dad ALSO knew the tree farm security/maintenance men from years of living by that gate. So many strange stories and YET my dad had purchased a seasonal pass every year so we could ride out on the trails and logging service roads if we couldn't get out in the actual mountains. Loads of weird stuff happened. Was not uncommon finding things that most folks would find odd, yet eventually, it becomes somewhat "normal" to those that live there. *shrugs* i live in the Midwest now and have been here for about 10 years now and yeah, pretty much similar oddities here that those that have been born and raised here dont find odd, but perfectly normal that i find a bit... Unnerving. Eh. Every place has their weirdness.
Yooooo!!!! That scream !! I can appreciate the commitment to the bit.
Scariest part is that none of them were carrying, going into the deep forest without a gun is wild.
Left coast, my man.
All the college students that move here kinda ruined the state, but i gotta stick up for the people born here lol. Everyone I know that goes out past paved roads is stapped up for sure. Stuff like this is why I always bring spare mags and a thermal monocular when I'm backpacking.@TheLoreLodge
I wouldn't dare go out deep in the national forests without carrying. There is no law out in the deep woods and it is too easy to be disappeared.
Even liberals carry guns in WA.
I was not expecting that fry scream but I'm here for it.
I have little doubt that this has happened at least a few times, even if the first instance was a creepypasta. Once something like this goes viral, it tends to cause copycats who read the story and think "that would be fun to do," and so a fictional meme becomes a real story.
This is absolutely the scariest story I've heard on this channel, good work guys.
I really enjoy the 'Not Missing Enigma™️' guy in the thumbnail. I know it's a stock image; but it's a funny coincidence!
This is helping me get through work thank you so much
We call it Tahoma, that's it's native name, just small correction. Great story! I live real close to Black Diamond, will make some time go go hike the area when weather allows.
Lore Lodge and Mr. Ballen..... Only 2 creators I've ever actually wanted to wear the merch from. And damn proud to do so.
That scream, I was expecting "welcome to the jungle, your gonna die" after bells canyon
I heard this story a while ago & it just further cemented in my head why I’ll never go camping in the wild.
LoL I got to minute 6 when I decided that maybe listening to this in the dark is probably not the best thing.
Time to wear the MrBallin shirt
He's got flannels in his merch lineup. But I'm guessing you already knew that. 😂
I believe that Ballen is Ballin’
@@simonlarge2052 Did I miss a joke or something?
Sorry, just poking fun at OP’s misspelling because I can’t keep my pedantry to myself 🤓
@simonlarge2052 ok lol
I grew up right by the green river I recognized that photo instantly!! Hell yeah many great memories down there. Love when you cover things from the Pacific Northwest
Death metal jump scare
@@VikingMutt33 I don’t talk about it much on here but I do in fact sing lol
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@@teen_laqueefaI can't take your name seriously my dude 😂
I wasn’t expecting it at all and it scared the absolute fuck out of me
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If you watch a movie called Backcountry, it really gives you a feel for what it’s like to be out in the middle of the woods and to have some random dude just sort of show up and not leave. It’s set in Canada and is actually a really horrifying movie, graphic as all hell, but it really does a good job of giving you that feeling of “he looks normal but this isn’t right”. If you’re on a busy trail in the summer, yeah you’re going to see people, but when you’re way off in wilderness like that in a non-touristy area it feels incredibly WRONG to have someone just standing around your campsite.
Yeah stay packing for that reason, we who love the backcountry must be careful and cautious
@ yeah we don’t really do that in Canada haha, it all has to be unloaded and locked up and only hunting rifles are allowed in most places. We do carry bear spray though, and you better believe I will “accidentally think a stalker is a bear” if I’m in that situation!
I truly appreciate your pre-invasion history of the areas you cover. I don't think any other similar channels do that.
Stories like this are why you shouldn't go into the woods without being armed. And shouldn't be alone.
Mrballen led me to you, so I am completely stoked you are doing one of his stories.. I'd love to hear you do more of them. ❤ xoxo love you guys.
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so what I heard was someone encountered a tweaker on the trail, 4 characteristics stand out 1, homeless and living in the forest 2.mentally ill 3.yelling 4.odd,stalking behaviour
sounds like a tweaker to me
I’m really glad that i get blessed with this content on a really really *really* bad day
After that scream I’d have moped out of there too lol😂
… or scooted?
I always like your investigative piece on 411 and the murder mystery pieces. They are perfect for listening to while cleaning house
I grew up in Oregon and spent years exploring the forests and mountains there. There is definitely something not quite ordinary in Oregon and Washington. Couldn't tell you quite what it was but there is definitely something. If there ever was a place for a rarely seen humanoid species to exist that area would be a great place to hide.
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Reminds me a lot of the stories from The Mothman Prophecies where random strange people would just approach people and ask them a series of odd questions ...
The stuff of Legend for Mr Ballen. He was going crazy on analytics before that one, but I feel like he absolutely exploded after the bells canyon vid.
I knew someone long ago that told me they were hunting in Alaska for a week solo, and said he absolutely had two nights where he was certain, there was a human, screwing with him, in the back country. It creeped him out because he was flown in, and when he was experiencing it. It was night, and where he was hearing it. There was no flashlights, just his. He ended up calling out for a pickup, early, and leaving, because he didn't want to be there. Big burly guy, very practical, no-nonsense kind of individual. "It was just very uncomfortable noises at night that was not attributed to moose, bear, wolf, Elk or any animal that is large." This dude doesn't talk about bigfoot or even cares. Stuck with me and I just remembered it.
OH, he also said whatever it was acted like a pack of wolves containing a kill. Loud, "testing the electrical fence" style behavior. In close to camp and than out to safety, but zero canine noises. Just other unrecognizable vocals and lots of disturbed foliage noises.
This story is fake, please don't ban me lol People can lie
Sounds like a story on r/nosleep
I was part of a reality survival based tv show.
The footage will never air.
Sounds similar
@@Simplechiocesis this story fake
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Reason 1,934,527 why I don’t go camping. I live in Oregon and can see Mt Hood and Mt St Helens from my house on a clear day. I’m content to enjoy them from afar.
Im 22 now but when i 13 i was out hunting with my dad in Mendocino National forest in northern California, we had drove around a lot and hiked all over when we were going along this road next to a cliffside with a stream at the bottom. When we on the road we came across a older man with his rifle looking down over the cliff side and we decided to stop and see if he has seen any deer in the area. This man had a weird vibe and he turned around deadpan looked at my dad and said "i got people in my sights" and went back to aiming down the cliffside. I was very unsettled and my dad could tell something was off about him so we just continued to drive down slowly and than look down the cliff side to see a family swimming in the water. I just remember my dad saying no matter where you are no matter what animals can be out in the wilderness humans are the most dangerous thing you can come across.
Did y'all tell the authorities??
@rneedham667 the game warden in that area we had his business card and personal number back than. Great guy and was always willing to give his time.
i was just saying to myself “i wish lore lodge would post so i could do my chores to the video…” 😇😇
The idea that this was some tweaked out dude who was told “go here and ask the guy you see there about bells canyon and he’ll sell you drugs” but got lost and was just desperately trying to score and then hoping the op was going to either lead him to the drugs, or lead him out was the best explanation I have seen for this( alleged) encounter.
According to Google Bell’s Canyon is all the way in Utah, so cracked out bigfoot is waaaayyy off course.
I must either be really unlucky or really lucky because i grew up in the area and spent a ton of time in the woods, a behavior learned from my father who basically spent his childhood surviving alone in these forests and neither of us ever saw or experienced anything.
I’m not sure why, but this story scares the absolute bejesus out of me 😳😰🫣. Can’t wait to watch your take on this !!!
Well it was absolutely terrifying for starters. I'm late but I'm sure the Aidens did a fantastic job!
Yeah I just caught this one so I’m back at the beginning. Mrballen made this so scary.
I’ve watched so many of this guys videos and this is the only one that’s ever made my skin crawl. I need to talk to that og redditor. The idea of opening my tent and seeing a person just sitting there and then running away makes me sick.
@ omg me too , I have watched every mystery, true crime, and strange story there is I think, (lol) but this one story totally got me spooked.
14:33 Aidan death metal moment was unforeseen. Incredible
I've been playing Alan Wake 2 recently so the idea of creepy mysterious things lurking in the woods of Washington made me think of that
I wasn't going to watch the Bigfoot series but I felt the pain when you said that video didn't do so well so I'm going to give it a watch for you bro
I'm responsible for dozens(if not hundreds) of bigfoot "sightings". I used to live close to a national forest, my favorite pass time was pranking the tourist campers on weekends and through the summer. I wouldn't try that now though simply because people are a lot more trigger happy now than they were 20-30 years ago.
If I wasn't only 5ft tall, and lived near a national forest 20 years ago, I'd have been tempted to do the same.
Was it olympic I might've seen a document on you
Everyone needs a hobby I suppose 🤔
You'll be fine. Just brush it off on the grass. That's what my Dad always said
I would've so sent you to Jesus.
You were so endearing at the end, I'm going to watch your big foot video series. ❤
I just have one question. Perfectly summed up at 14:29
Im from the Netherlands, we do not have stories like this here. I drove through Tillamook NP with my husband and 2year old in 2018. At one stage we needed to get out of the car on this desolate parkspot next to a high cliff, in the middle of dense forest. I have never felt such a scary feeling creeping over me, as if i have been watched. Later we learned about bigfoot stories etc and now im into stories like Aiden is telling here. Just because i understand, i know the feeling of being watched now and i cannot let go how eerie this felt. And..I want to understand..I have traveled quite a bit, but the way I felt there, I have never experienced it somewere else.
Omg! Yes! Lol. So excited!
Was laying in my bed in Seattle…listening to this while there is a man (homeless? Drugs? Not sure) walking up and down in front of my house - 1:30 in the morning - wailing and moaning in a really creepy way 😳 really set the mood