Why Kings Island is Removing Vortex - Our Theories!

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  • Kings Island just announced the removal of one of their most iconic roller coasters Vortex will be closing forever at the end of October, devastating fans of this 33-year-old Arrow looper. The announcement seemed to have come out of nowhere, so in this video, we'll be dissecting exactly what is going on, and discuss our best theories for why exactly Vortex is closing!
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  • @CoasterStudios
    @CoasterStudios  5 років тому +409

    Minor correction, the ride opened in 1987 instead of 1984. My apologies!

    • @coastercoverage26
      @coastercoverage26 5 років тому +5

      Hey it's on it's way out heading to king island next season and was looking forward to riding it.

    • @ryancurley2351
      @ryancurley2351 5 років тому +4

      1984 has a few arrow loopers
      Steamin Demon at Six Flags Great Escape was built in ‘84 is so painful, and if you’ve ever ridden it, you’d know it’s coaster parody gold.

    • @ulosttomedesigns518
      @ulosttomedesigns518 5 років тому +5

      The issue is that this now leaves a big hole in a very populated area of the park. It might even hurt beast ridership, because the beast is now out even farther away from anything worth doing.

    • @Fury325Fan
      @Fury325Fan 5 років тому +3

      Maybe a TREX could spark!

    • @stheteller7470
      @stheteller7470 5 років тому +1

      @Josiah_is Cool I want the first rmc t rex.

  • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
    @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 років тому +809

    Kings Island: Removes Son of Beast
    Kings Island: Removes Firehawk
    Kings Island: Removes Vortex
    Invertigo: *Sweats nervously*

    • @Lecci520
      @Lecci520 5 років тому +63

      As long as the Beast stays I could care less about the rest.

    • @zachcoastercrazy4032
      @zachcoastercrazy4032 5 років тому +87

      Adventure express: *panics quietly*

    • @meganveite5678
      @meganveite5678 5 років тому +29

      Leci I don’t think they will since that’s their most iconic coaster.

    • @lilychancey4446
      @lilychancey4446 5 років тому +9

      Zach Coaster crazy you don’t need to worry about the family rides

    • @marumicore
      @marumicore 5 років тому +15

      King cobra?!

  • @CoasterCollege
    @CoasterCollege 5 років тому +324

    I don't think it has much to do with the brakes. I have worked Gemini all summer, in June we were stacking a lot and we have not had to replace any of our brakes and we have only had problems with them twice. I think the problem is in the controls system. All the late 80s arrows got a controls system to run the ride that has proven to be extremely difficult to maintain ever since Arrow went bankrupt. Both Magnum and Iron Dragon had this system and both have been modernized with newer systems. The price of modernizing a coaster on the scale of Vortex is quite expensive and I can see KI not seeing the value in pouring that kind of money into a older ride. Thats just my theory.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 років тому +26

      More importantly it's an old ride that's NOT popular. Magnum and Iron Dragon are popular (Iron Dragon more so because it's the only true family coaster at CP since CCMR has a stupid 48" height requirement) so they are worth the money to keep running since people enjoy them. Vortex is not popular so sinking money into a ride no one wants to ride is not worth it

    • @CoasterStudios
      @CoasterStudios  5 років тому +47

      Definitely a possibility! Now that you say that, I wouldn't be surprised if controls were a contributing factor.

    • @jamesmcmanus1206
      @jamesmcmanus1206 5 років тому +14

      It’s all about return on investment. I don’t think this is any one factor. It’s a combination of the capital needed to keep the ride going versus the benefits of having the coaster at the park. They saw that the costs for maintenance and upkeep of the ride is likely significant enough to warrant its removal. It’s unfortunate for us fans of the ride but this is strictly a business decision. Service life is just a nice way for the park to put it. They could make these rides run forever if they were willing to upfront the capital. “service life” is simply an estimate of when the maintenance needs of the ride will outweigh the benefits of keeping it in operation.

    • @jdrammer5664
      @jdrammer5664 5 років тому +3

      GP To Enthusiast you shouldn’t be stacking on Gemini with four trains. It means you aren’t hustling fast enough. I remember riding Gemini when it was running 6 trains early 2000’s with no stacking. That was impressive

    • @CoasterCollege
      @CoasterCollege 5 років тому +8

      @@jdrammer5664 Oh trust me our crew got way better, but back in June we stacked a ton. Also back when we ran 6 trains there were no seatbelts.

  • @coastercountdowns7736
    @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +477

    The ride that was on all of my physics textbooks.

    • @chiefbeef6251
      @chiefbeef6251 5 років тому +30

      I saw a math textbook with a picture of Desperadon't at the Buffalo Bills hotel/casino

    • @bariton3779
      @bariton3779 5 років тому +15

      one of my textbooks had diamondstack on it

    • @coastercountdowns7736
      @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +8

      mountaineers79 I sadly did not get to ride Mantis. I have rode Rougarou and I thought it was meh

    • @artnbookscentral8633
      @artnbookscentral8633 5 років тому +2

      @@isaacarthur4834 They should have kept the stand-up because A, I didn't get to ride it, B, Mantis was one of the few stand-ups, and C, Cedar Point is known for having basically every kind of coaster (besides a flyer) but removing Mantis left a hole.

    • @coastercountdowns7736
      @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +1

      Art N' Books Central Stand ups are outdated and they didn’t have a B&M sit down so I think it was a good decision. It’s just a shame that it’s rough.

  • @amandanorthern6568
    @amandanorthern6568 5 років тому +77

    I was in high school when vortex was first opened. My high school friend and I bought our own passes and rode it as much as possible we where both 17 and thats what you did in the old days. He died years ago RIP Todd. So today was the last day of the 2019 season. My daughter came home from collage last night just to ride vortex one last time. So this morning we got up early and opened the park on vortex and got the ride picture plus a lot of other pictures. The park was more busy then normal for the last day and vortex was lined up like I have not seen in years. I will miss vortex after all it was there for 32 years. I know it has to happen sooner or later. Like mean streak at cedar point, but dam steel Vengence is my favorite ride. So I hope its replacement is worth it. Thanks.

  • @mynameis7575
    @mynameis7575 5 років тому +147

    IM gonna miss getting concussions😭

    • @5rc
      @5rc 5 років тому +3

      Rode it possibly for the last time today (I live 5 mins away may go to the park tomorrow) and a girl behind me said "I almost bit my tongue off." Enough said lol

    • @andrewpike2398
      @andrewpike2398 4 роки тому +4

      It's honestly not that bad I've ridden this for a long time now but it's not nearly as bad as like the son of beast was that was actually painful and hurt riding it

    • @kaylo2344
      @kaylo2344 3 роки тому

      @@5rc Yikes I usually got sick after it that was really the only thing that happened to me

    • @katiebelle5405
      @katiebelle5405 3 роки тому

      TBH they should have tore it down in 2010~2013 it was so rough I couldn't think of riding again

  • @swanksta1
    @swanksta1 5 років тому +65

    Kings Island is my home park, Vortex was the first ride I had ever ridden with an inversion. This is the ride that made me love coasters. I understand park development and I am sad to see it go. I will be making sure to take my final rides this month.

    • @therealZThaDon
      @therealZThaDon 5 років тому +1

      True

    • @fxjrulpzxi
      @fxjrulpzxi 4 роки тому

      Mine too, I was so proud when I got off and immediately got in line to do it again! It will be missed. Bitter sweet, as an adult... phew... started skipping over it... painful

    • @kitkatkatie7439
      @kitkatkatie7439 4 роки тому

      SAME this was my first major coaster i rided. first loop. first drop that big. my friend forced me on it without even seeing the coaster and i road it twice!! sad to see it go :/

    • @NadaPJD
      @NadaPJD 4 роки тому

      Did you enjoy your small concussion?

    • @jacobjackson8646
      @jacobjackson8646 3 роки тому

      Same😢

  • @triston....1751
    @triston....1751 5 років тому +34

    Another grave for Banshee's queue 😂

  • @ulosttomedesigns518
    @ulosttomedesigns518 5 років тому +240

    I have a solution to the quarterly earnings issue: Sell Michigan's Adventure

    • @overlookers
      @overlookers 5 років тому +18

      Michigan's Adventure is a phantom limb at this point. They might as well.

    • @artnbookscentral8633
      @artnbookscentral8633 5 років тому +9

      @@ilikerollercoasters4757 If Michigan's Adventure can't get vortex because Cedar Fair will decide to scrap Vortex because they still have to pay for it so moving it won't make any difference in finances.

    • @morerandomrainbows2794
      @morerandomrainbows2794 5 років тому +15

      Yes! Please! Michigan’s Advnture was doing so well before Cedar Fair came along. It’s my home park, and I want it to thrive.

    • @bjtgaming
      @bjtgaming 5 років тому +17

      you are not going to believe this but Michigan's Adventure is actually a pretty profitable part for Cedar Fair to own..

    • @StamfordBridge
      @StamfordBridge 5 років тому +8

      bjtgaming Was just going to say the same thing. That park that never gets anything new actually makes a steady profit.

  • @geoffseiter2012
    @geoffseiter2012 5 років тому +125

    If you're a local that grew up riding Vortex on a regular basis, i'd guess 90% of us are happy that Vortex is leaving. It hurts after riding these days.

    • @fxjrulpzxi
      @fxjrulpzxi 4 роки тому +2

      Geoff Seiter bitter sweet

    • @campee7674
      @campee7674 4 роки тому +18

      Nahhhh, it’s still one of my favorite coasters. Hate to see it go

    • @Musickt196
      @Musickt196 4 роки тому +10

      I rode it it 2004 or 2005 and loved it. Then I rode it in 2017 and it was horrible-so rough and jerky and gave me a headache. Good riddance lol

    • @JJJJ-he8bz
      @JJJJ-he8bz 4 роки тому +1

      It was horrible for me as an adult liked it as a kid. I’m shocked how good viper is magic mountain really takes care of it

    • @cwill2127
      @cwill2127 3 роки тому +2

      Nah I’m sad it’s gone. Haven’t ridden it since I was a kid, but I don’t remember it being rough. Only one I remember being rough was beast/ son of beast. Then again, kids are a lot more elastic so I probably just didn’t notice haha

  • @perryfamilyfilms
    @perryfamilyfilms 5 років тому +29

    I would love to see a replacement coaster that follows the same color scheme; That deep blue / orange track design is beautiful.

    • @perryfamilyfilms
      @perryfamilyfilms 3 роки тому +1

      @@harorider96 It was such a beautiful coaster aesthetically. It was also a great rite of passage coaster... if you were a scared first time coaster rider and could get through the Vortex, you were good to go with anything else. That is until the first generation seats on "Flight of Fear" (anyone remember those foam pillows that felt like boxing gloves?) :-)

  • @WinXitheP00h
    @WinXitheP00h 5 років тому +124

    Loch Ness monster is 41 years old and isn’t going anywhere anytime soon, they just updated the ride and got it two new trains.

    • @pharaohflame315
      @pharaohflame315 5 років тому +25

      And its an landmark ACE icon. No other coaster in the world has interlocking loops and taking it down would just....ruin that area of the park.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 років тому +10

      @@pharaohflame315 Plus it still gets a good amount of riders Vortex doesn't

    • @moonfoot1
      @moonfoot1 5 років тому +1

      @@pharaohflame315 any landmarked coaster would be taken down

    • @pharaohflame315
      @pharaohflame315 5 років тому +8

      @@moonfoot1 Lochness will never be taken down. And if they did, it would kill that scenic area of Scotland.

    • @cam3033
      @cam3033 5 років тому +4

      I still ride every time I go to Busch

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept 5 років тому +36

    "The tweet was greatly exaggerated about how our rumors were greatly exaggerated" lmbo

  • @EdenEchoFilms
    @EdenEchoFilms 5 років тому +83

    It's OBVIOUSLY where they're building the midcourse for Falcon's Flight.

  • @patrickwagner98
    @patrickwagner98 5 років тому +61

    Kings Dominion has been weeding out roller coasters over the last decade: Shockwave, Hurler (although replaced in the same process), and Volcano. I fully expect Anaconda to be next.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 років тому +10

      I think Anaconda will go after Volcanos replacement comes in

    • @patrickwagner98
      @patrickwagner98 5 років тому +5

      @@AdamSmith-gs2dv of all the parks in the region I live (Baltimore/DC), I feel like KD has had more coasters closed than any other in my lifetime. I haven't done any research to back that up, but the list seems long: King Kobra, Hypersonic XLC, Hurler, Shockwave, and Volcano. I don't think Anaconda is long in the tooth, but I also wonder about Avalanche, to be honest.

    • @TheRealSweedie
      @TheRealSweedie 5 років тому +5

      Let's HOPE Anaconda is next. Talk about crappy ride taking up a prime spot in the park

    • @WicketEngineering
      @WicketEngineering 5 років тому +1

      @@patrickwagner98 I wouldn't care if avalanche was removed. It has terrible capacity. I want Anaconda to stay because of it being a 'classic arrow'.

    • @WicketEngineering
      @WicketEngineering 5 років тому

      @warallthetime I like arrows tho :'( Welp on the bright side at least you have Mind Eraser XD

  • @kkdarling9018
    @kkdarling9018 5 років тому +21

    Vortex will forever be missed... 😞 I rode it for the last time yesterday.

  • @zacg_
    @zacg_ 5 років тому +72

    It's really sad that Arrow is slowly dying off. I'm mean, they're already dead. But their work is dying off. I get that SFMM would be better served by removing Viper at some point but I'm getting to the point where I want them to keep it anyway.
    If BGW ever replaces Lochness Monster then the coaster community will go into morning. At least Tennessee Tornado will be around for a while and there are other Arrows besides the loopers that will hopefully remain.
    I hope that there will always been a fan base that will prevent the closure of historic rides like Matterhorn, Runaway Mine Train, Magnum XL 200 and of course X2.

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 років тому +8

      Matterhorn, Lochness, and Magnum are historic coasters and their parks care alot about them. Disney refurbished the Matterhorn between 2012-2015, BGW refurbed Lochness Monsters trains last year, and Magnum got a new control panel a few years ago and got a new lighting package in the third tunnel this year. Simply put I don't see any of these three leaving anytime soon if at all.

    • @newclothes8165
      @newclothes8165 5 років тому +4

      "mourning'

    • @mhtube01
      @mhtube01 5 років тому +4

      I wish there were smaller parks out there that would make Cedar Fair on offer on Vortex so they could dismantle it and move it to their own park. It would be like breathing life new into an aging coaster like Vortex, even if it doesn't make financial sense to some people. I think if they did something like that though, it would be the perfect opportunity to refurbish the coaster and upgrade some of the aging controls and such that needed it. I'm sure it would gain popularity with all of that done and a new home.
      Nessie is one of my favorite Arrow loopers and I hope BGW never gets rid of it. That's probably one of the smoothest, most popular coasters the company ever built and I don't see it leaving any time soon. I know they've done work to it the past few years. I just rode Vortex this past June though and found it to be an enjoyable ride, a lot smoother than I was expecting actually so I'm sad to see it go.

    • @TheRealSweedie
      @TheRealSweedie 5 років тому +3

      Is it though?? I'm personally ecstatic to see these old clunkers go. They're rough to a point where it physically hurts to ride them, they're not forceful, and they're not very impressive compared to today's modern coasters. I get that people are nostalgic about their coasters, but man... these are just bad.

    • @WicketEngineering
      @WicketEngineering 5 років тому

      OMG yesss!

  • @garminkid
    @garminkid 5 років тому +42

    Here’s a solution: install magnetic brakes so the friction brakes don’t have to brake as hard. Magnetic brakes are also more comfortable and more reliable.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 5 років тому +2

      Probably not enough room under the chassis to do so even if cost wasn't a factor.

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 4 роки тому

      @@sharkheadism There is more than enough room.

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 4 роки тому

      @@electric7487 Do you have a diagram or anything?

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 4 роки тому

      @@sharkheadism You could fit two magnets where the two sliding pieces of the brakes are. Make sure they are in opposite orientations though. (One magnet has north at thebfront, and the other has south at the front)

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 4 роки тому

      @@electric7487 I meant fit the mag brake fin to the chassis of the train

  • @natekenny7106
    @natekenny7106 5 років тому +11

    I remember Vortex was down for almost 2 weeks in 2017 because the chain lift snapped and it took forever to get a part to fix it apparently.

  • @brycetube4
    @brycetube4 5 років тому +17

    As someone who has worked on the vortex as a ride op I definitely think your speculation is very plausible.

  • @michaelpryor78
    @michaelpryor78 5 років тому +46

    I get the nostalgia component, but the thing had become nothing but painful inversions.

    • @nevadaleone5942
      @nevadaleone5942 5 років тому +1

      Yes! It left me bruised and so sore this summer!!

    • @JDBlack-gf9ok
      @JDBlack-gf9ok 4 роки тому

      Nobody from Ohio goes anywhere near Vortex. Last time I rode it I had a headache for the rest of the day.

    • @jayskestrel8130
      @jayskestrel8130 4 роки тому +1

      It slammed my jaw on the hard restraints and bruised my entire jawline and cheek. They also had seat belts which uh.... I was in the back and a seat belt came undone mid ride, thank god for fail safes.

    • @jacobjackson8646
      @jacobjackson8646 3 роки тому +1

      So close the beast?????

  • @anthonyalifano2420
    @anthonyalifano2420 5 років тому +4

    RMC Son of The Beast

    • @minecraftgaming012fgteev2
      @minecraftgaming012fgteev2 5 років тому +1

      Anthony Alifano They might REMAKE SON OF BEAST

    • @anthonyalifano2420
      @anthonyalifano2420 5 років тому

      MinecraftGaming012 FGTeeV personal just use the same layout with the loop and RMC it we all want it so

  • @ajtopia
    @ajtopia 5 років тому +34

    Who else thinks we *NEED* to get arrow back in business somehow.

    • @Valzentia
      @Valzentia 5 років тому +1

      +The Bearded Weirdo coaster freak. actually, Alan Schilke is still alive. but he's better off where he is right now sooooo

    • @electric7487
      @electric7487 5 років тому

      *Laughs in Vekoma*

    • @sgtmyers88
      @sgtmyers88 5 років тому +1

      Arrow lives on in Vekoma, S&S, and RMC

    • @beardedswordsman2901
      @beardedswordsman2901 5 років тому +3

      S&S owns arrows affairs so anyone could probably buy the plans from them and turnaround and get vekoma, intamin etc to build past rides.

    • @optimusrob6880
      @optimusrob6880 5 років тому

      @@DoswarePictures cci is now GCI and Gravity Group

  • @pieterlootsma8706
    @pieterlootsma8706 5 років тому +13

    It's been sad to see all of the Arrow custom loopers being taken down. Although they may not be the greatest, they still provide a fairly unique ride experience.

  • @kbaker9753
    @kbaker9753 5 років тому +9

    kings island is my home park so i am devastated to see it go :( but i do hope something brilliant replaces it. Something great should replace it as vortex was great in itself. I hear people talk about how this is one of the most painful rides they've ever ridden but i've rode Vortex 10 plus times and have never been hurt by it. I find the racers and Invertigo much more painful than Vortex. I would love to see a big wing coaster go in it's place and interacts with the woods. But, for some reason my gut says we will end up seeing a dive coaster because it's literally the perfect viewing area/gp attraction spot to view a coaster that does something dramatic. I plan on going to Kings Island to get a few more rides on Vortex before I have to say farewell for good. Vortex was my first looping coaster so it does really pain me to see it go. Kings Island will never be the same without it.

  • @megazap9986
    @megazap9986 5 років тому +21

    Take a shot every time he says I suspect

    • @romanhurst7
      @romanhurst7 5 років тому +1

      Megazap I SUSPECT ITS A BIG REASON

  • @mr.meloetta1939
    @mr.meloetta1939 5 років тому +25

    Does anyone else think a new generation Vekoma like Lech Coaster would fit as Vortex's replacement?

    • @AdamSmith-gs2dv
      @AdamSmith-gs2dv 5 років тому +5

      Yes but don't get your hopes up, CP hasn't worked with Vekoma for awhile. I'd bet more on a Gerstlauer Infinity coaster or a Mack Mega coaster

    • @bbolin5626
      @bbolin5626 5 років тому

      Adam Smith Both tend to not age well.

    • @maximecretton383
      @maximecretton383 5 років тому

      @@bbolin5626 Mack mega coasters not aging well? That's the first time I read that. Blue Fire is still running as smoothly as day one.

    • @bbolin5626
      @bbolin5626 5 років тому

      Maxime Cretton For some reason though, Copperhead Strike was pretty bumpy when I did it.

    • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
      @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 років тому

      I wouldn't mind seeing them come to Kings Island. BUT Im not sure how they would fit in the section or park Vortex is in....BUT then again, You have "Action Theater" in Coney Mall, "Back lot Stunt Coaster" in Coney Mall, "Windseeker" in Coney Mall, and "Mystic Timbers" in Rivertown....so in hindsight.... screw it why not!

  • @a.j.cappuccio2859
    @a.j.cappuccio2859 5 років тому +42

    Canada's Wonderland be like " you can take away few our coasters.....please!"

    • @shane952
      @shane952 5 років тому +4

      Yeah. Its rough having CW as your home park. There is like 3-4 good rides there.

    • @overlookers
      @overlookers 5 років тому +1

      Trash Time Warp for a Railblazer clone

    • @artnbookscentral8633
      @artnbookscentral8633 5 років тому +1

      @@overlookers How about a custom

    • @a.j.cappuccio2859
      @a.j.cappuccio2859 5 років тому

      @@shane952 At least you have a home park. I live in Maine

    • @SteelRiderCarl
      @SteelRiderCarl 5 років тому

      Flight Deck could be improved with better profiling and restraints. Time Warp? I don't know, but it needs something.

  • @ajward4299
    @ajward4299 5 років тому +12

    First time i rode it: 1989, last time i rode it: 2019. It will be missed.

  • @gregg5958
    @gregg5958 5 років тому +8

    You want to see stress on brakes and ride operators? I can’t think of anything more stressful than two train operation on the original Corkscrew at Knott’s Berry Farm. They tried to avoid stacking trains whenever possible as that led to not only the guest comfort and wear and tear problem you mentioned, but also because they would have to run out and physically push the train into the station or else the other train that they just dispatched would set up on the lift. And back then, the lift would overheat and didn’t always restart.
    That wasn’t the only stressful part though. It was stressful just unlocking the OTSRs as it was done by pedal on each car and one ride op would have their foot stuck out pushing them as the train went by. It was still going pretty fast! Always seemed pretty scary and risky to me.

  • @endseeker7198
    @endseeker7198 5 років тому +19

    Earlier this year the trains got stuck and on opening night of Halloween haunt, vortex broke down. Idk why but I was on the first train,out of the station lol. I'll miss vortex

    • @whitneyg9150
      @whitneyg9150 5 років тому +2

      last year when I went to haunt (and my first visit back to the park since Cedar Fair bought it), Vortex closed down because a raccoon managed to climb up into the station and they had to remove it lol.

    • @endseeker7198
      @endseeker7198 5 років тому

      @@whitneyg9150 I remember one time I was in line for White Water canyon (thier raft ride) ane they had to shut it down because deer had gotten into the water.
      They just wanted to ride to

    • @miagarcia3876
      @miagarcia3876 5 років тому

      Oh i went to the Kingsland haunt

    • @miagarcia3876
      @miagarcia3876 5 років тому

      And wen i rode it it didn't brake down

    • @mouse5094
      @mouse5094 4 роки тому

      Once I witnessed Vortex being evacuated on the lift hill because a storm was approaching, and I ended up going on it later that day with no line at all. Fun memories lol

  • @marumicore
    @marumicore 5 років тому +60

    “Everyone would rather have a giga.”
    Me: *UH*

    • @WapoStudios
      @WapoStudios 5 років тому +7

      There is no way in hell Orion won’t be better than Vortex

    • @patrickn8355
      @patrickn8355 5 років тому +1

      @@WapoStudios he was referring to Firehawk. It was definitely a fan favorite despite it's mechanical issues and slow dispatch time

    • @whitneyg9150
      @whitneyg9150 5 років тому +3

      @@patrickn8355 idk i rode firehawk once and i was just in pain the entire time. my body didn't like it at all

    • @patrickn8355
      @patrickn8355 5 років тому

      @@whitneyg9150 ya it definitely happens. I always found that the more you just let yourself be completely weightless on the harness it's way better and more fun

    • @oneandonlysound3453
      @oneandonlysound3453 5 років тому +2

      A giga that looks more like a hyper at that, whom designed it/wanted it designed like that? They already have a hyper, it has way too many basic hyper elements. With two removed classic coasters in exchange for a bigger version of the hyper basically. Glad it's not my home park.

  • @perryfamilyfilms
    @perryfamilyfilms 5 років тому +5

    The Vortex is such a beautiful coaster aesthetically. It is a rough ride, but I'll be sad to see it go. That area of the park where you can sit and enjoy watching the "batwing" inversions up close is my favorite area of the park. I remember sitting there as a kid in the 90's and having one of my first existential moments; there was something almost meditative about that area of the park. Now they have a bunch of music and games creeping into that area so it isn't as tranquil, but at one time that little stretch before you make your way to the Beast was beautiful and calming.

    • @fxjrulpzxi
      @fxjrulpzxi 4 роки тому

      Marcus you put it into words so beautifully! I completely agree, I love that little path!!!!

  • @joshr.6785
    @joshr.6785 5 років тому +4

    My feedback as a season pass holder was that the ride sucked and either needed maintenance or to be removed. And I recommended Invertigo and The Bat as well.

    • @delani655
      @delani655 5 років тому

      Josh R. I personally LOVE Vortex and I think that Invertigo and bat are great to but I think those will be the next ones to go.

    • @joshr.6785
      @joshr.6785 5 років тому

      @@delani655 they are too rough for tall skinny people, harnesses don't fit right. Heck, banshee has issues with me but the ride is smooth enough. Those three are choppy. Bat has sucked since it opened, when you spend more time going up the hill than you do going down that's a problem. When you spend even more time than the hill waiting to enter the station, that's worse.

    • @delani655
      @delani655 5 років тому

      Josh R. I’m short and skinny and I had a hard ride on Vortex... your right tho!!

  • @Jayhoob1
    @Jayhoob1 5 років тому +13

    Dragon fire at Canada’s wonderland is 38 years old

  • @InkWildDog
    @InkWildDog 5 років тому +3

    I rode it 3 times today...

  • @chainliftthrills8109
    @chainliftthrills8109 5 років тому +6

    Vortex was my first major coaster so a little sad, but tbh the ride gives me a concussion

  • @yrkadms
    @yrkadms 5 років тому +4

    Dear Kings Island, Whatever you do there, PLEASE restore The Beast's lagoon.

  • @coastercountdowns7736
    @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +14

    Unpopular opinion: Viper at SFMM is a decent ride!

    • @tiedough7481
      @tiedough7481 5 років тому +2

      Coaster Countdowns I did that with an arrow corkscrew at canobie lake park. The line is nonexistent. Do your riding!

    • @samb3435
      @samb3435 5 років тому +2

      The roller coaster is very rough, but nothing too bad. Also, have you ridden it after the refurbishment? The brakes are top-tier!!

    • @coastercountdowns7736
      @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +1

      Sam B I only ridden it before and I had really low expectations so it seemed good

    • @coastercountdowns7736
      @coastercountdowns7736 5 років тому +1

      Ti Dough I love them for that. They can be a bit rough but I love the classics!

  • @GalaxySlothDavid
    @GalaxySlothDavid 5 років тому +2

    Why Vortex!? :( I have only ridden it twice! I hope I get to go to KI before its closure, its also my dad's favorite coaster in the park so I'm devastated. Nothing could replace the true classic that Vortex was. ;'( I DON'T WANT IT TO GO!

  • @jaredstrickland4532
    @jaredstrickland4532 5 років тому +6

    I know it had a pretty substantial break down three or four weeks ago leaving a train full of people on the lift hill for roughly an hour. This may have played a part in this decision. Parts are getting hard to come by.

  • @marke8323
    @marke8323 5 років тому +2

    I rode Vortex the first year it arrived at Kings Island, I thought it was great!

  • @netnerdz5808
    @netnerdz5808 5 років тому +7

    Haven’t watched yet but my guess is the lack of attendance

  • @VonFisch1
    @VonFisch1 5 років тому +2

    We would go to Kings Island every year and Vortex was very painful, someone was always a victim every year, to which they couldn't ride anything else the rest of the day. So we all just stopped riding it. This was 20 years ago, when it wasn't that old. I don't know what the numbers were, but since then, it never seemed to have much of a line.

  • @danielflanagan3692
    @danielflanagan3692 5 років тому +9

    I think one of the reasons is the ride is so rough, it is one of the most painful coasters I have ridden. The tracks could be needing maintenance that would not be cost effective.

    • @SamshireCat
      @SamshireCat 5 років тому

      I was about the say. In the recent years, i've heard too many negative things about this ride. A lot of people are sad, but also many are glad. This ride literally caused my mom to stop riding coasters the rest of the day. The wooden ones didn't even hurt her she claims, but this ride hurt her so bad, she had to stop riding coasters and my mom LOVES coasters and will ride them all day long, so you know its bad when she has to stop. She says when this ride first opened, it was way more smooth, but over the years, it just has worn out.

  • @christianlewis6789
    @christianlewis6789 2 роки тому +2

    I know I'm late, but anyone still here, hear me out. Lately there's been "utility work" done near Son of Beast's old land plot (roughly between that and Timberwolf Amphitheater). Also, I heard that parts of Vortex were indeed dealing with sinking, though I'm not sure about accuracy (I do think that the soil of Mason, Ohio is not quite perfect for building glossy smooth coasters). Theme Park Predictions recently stated that the land where Vortex once stood may not be used for quite some time; rather, any *possible* new coaster might be placed in or near Action Zone.

  • @delani655
    @delani655 5 років тому +3

    I can say that a week ago I got to ride my last ride on the Vortex! So sad😥😢I had so many good memories on the ride! 😭😭😭 I’m literally tearing up

  • @deathandbananas2152
    @deathandbananas2152 5 років тому +2

    You know what's even worst
    If they torn down the beast

  • @jgulbrandson
    @jgulbrandson 5 років тому +6

    Maybe it’s leaving because it beats the living crap out of its riders.

    • @brandonstrong2903
      @brandonstrong2903 5 років тому +1

      Jason Gulbrandson bro I live so close to this park. Vortex is always a walk-on cause the ride beats the hell out of everyone

    • @jgulbrandson
      @jgulbrandson 5 років тому +1

      Brandon Strong ya, I rode it once. That was enough. None of my friends ride it either. It seems like the guy who made this video has never been to Kings Island

  • @StubenRocks
    @StubenRocks 5 років тому +2

    They know what's going in that spot. They just can't say because you can't promise something that doesn't exist yet. My prediction: Kings Island gets the first RMC T-Rex in 2023. KI is due for an RMC, but it doesn't have a good candidate for an RMC retrofit. And while normally Cedar Point would get something that high profile, I think with the popularity of Steel Vengeance, you don't wouldn't want to divert the spotlight away from it. So you move it to KI, which hasn't had a "premiere" ride in years. Yeah, they're getting a giga next year, but they're the last major CF park to get one, and they intentionally made it so that it wouldn't break records and divert attention away from the other CF gigas. KI has had a string of "very solid rides" in the past decade, but not that "change your vacation plans and head to Cincinnati" type ride in a long time.

  • @dominicbarron4650
    @dominicbarron4650 5 років тому +21

    Who loved this ride
    ⬇️

    • @ICsucks
      @ICsucks 5 років тому

      I loved it

    • @ericpoe8515
      @ericpoe8515 5 років тому

      Good ride but rough

    • @miagarcia3876
      @miagarcia3876 5 років тому

      I did😭😭😭😭😭😞 it was my favorite😭😭😭😭 i like the bat i like the dimand back but the vortex. Im going to cry for ever😭😭😭😭😭

  • @danielbachmann5326
    @danielbachmann5326 5 років тому +2

    i think there removing it so the can put part of the track for orion there

  • @patrickn8355
    @patrickn8355 5 років тому +8

    This is a classic that I feel everyone loves to hate. Not great and fairly painful, but still a great credit in my opinion

    • @katiebelle5405
      @katiebelle5405 3 роки тому

      By 2010 the ride was so rough I'm surprised it took that long to tear it dowm

  • @Ginkoman2
    @Ginkoman2 5 років тому +6

    A Mack Xtreme Spinning Coaster would be awesome

  • @ginger06727
    @ginger06727 5 років тому +7

    I literally cried this Saturday. I'M SO SAD!!!

  • @hanniemarie184
    @hanniemarie184 5 років тому +5

    I’m so bummed out. Vortex was down opening day due to weather and I didn’t get the chance to ride it one last time smh

  • @MinkyBoodle44
    @MinkyBoodle44 5 років тому +5

    Though I know they haven’t worked with them AT ALL recently, I hope Cedar Fair replaces Vortex with a large-scale next-gen Vekoma looper. That could make for a truly worthy sequel.

  • @yasminponce250
    @yasminponce250 5 років тому +2

    I was just at kings island yesterday and I didn’t want to get on the vortex cause the line was so long and I just found out they were gonna remove it 😢😢I would’ve got on it if I knewww

    • @brandonstrong2903
      @brandonstrong2903 5 років тому

      Line was long because everyone heard they were removing it. If you went a weekend before that the ride would be a walk-on

  • @NC5618
    @NC5618 5 років тому +6

    You know what I say, bring in Son of Beast: the Iron Revival (RMC Son of Beast). They've teased in one of their fliers that they are trying to bring it back into operation, maybe this is how they decided to do it.

    • @mbrown052467
      @mbrown052467 5 років тому +2

      Ohhh. Put the Son by the Papa! That'll be a nice touch. :-)

    • @brianhouser4680
      @brianhouser4680 4 роки тому

      i could see a new Son of Beast coaster there. That is a great spot right next to the Beast.

  • @delani655
    @delani655 5 років тому +3

    They should fix Vortex, new brakes, repaired track, I like the carts but they should add a headrest and better strap things to hold your head in place better, and a fresh new coat of paint. Then it will be all good!!!

  • @Lecci520
    @Lecci520 5 років тому +14

    It's leaving because you felt like you were in a car wreck after riding it!

    • @aliplath6194
      @aliplath6194 5 років тому +3

      Agree, after riding some of the newer coasters with modern restraints, this one felt like I was being flung around and punched in the face.

    • @courtney2357
      @courtney2357 5 років тому +2

      Leci accurate. I love this ride, really do, but it was painful

    • @ericpoe8515
      @ericpoe8515 5 років тому +1

      Shoulder restraints beat u up

  • @letsbegaming5411
    @letsbegaming5411 5 років тому +1

    I Agree with all of this but what if it’s also a safety reason if the parts are like 25 years old no matter what mattenence they have done to it it’s probably not working as safely as it did when it was newer

  • @matthewtuel2747
    @matthewtuel2747 5 років тому +4

    Vortex was my first "big" looping coaster. I rode it immediately after King Cobra (my first looper), and it got me hooked on coasters way back in 1997. It will be missed.

  • @SpikePBB
    @SpikePBB 5 років тому +2

    No way it's to do with wear-and-tear on the brakes running 3 trains. If it were they'd just simply run 2 and keep the ride operating.
    It baffles me that you started the video stating Cedar Fair were not happy with recent profits and would be looking for 'under-performing rides' in all of their parks. You then try and fabricate reasons as to why, when it's blatantly obvious and they basically said why, to save/make $$$$$$$. 😂💵

    • @sharkheadism
      @sharkheadism 5 років тому

      He guesses about a lot of stuff, and is often wrong. Many other enthusiasts do the same thing.

  • @subzerofromny735
    @subzerofromny735 5 років тому +8

    Bring back arrow dynamics. That way you’ll have more parts for Vortex and rebuild Great American Scream Machine

  • @sledgehammer_floatzel
    @sledgehammer_floatzel 5 років тому +2

    Kings Island (my home park) is trippin

  • @garminkid
    @garminkid 5 років тому +4

    Speaking of Vortex, I absolutely loved that ride. It was never that rough and always very intense. I was sad when Dragon Challenge and Volcano closed, but Vortex is hitting me harder, mainly because I've only ridden Volcano once and Dragon Challenge once on each side. Since I live in Ohio, I've ridden Vortex multiple times, and it's never failed to disappoint me.
    R.I.P. to one of the greatest Arrow coasters to ever be built. You will be missed by many.

    • @brandonclark887
      @brandonclark887 5 років тому

      I’m still disappointed with the replacement for Dragon Challenge. I haven’t been to Universal Studios Orlando in nearly a decade, but from the POVs released by the park... the new roller coaster just seems underwhelming compared to its predecessor.

    • @garminkid
      @garminkid 5 років тому

      @@brandonclark887 Hagrid's looks overrated. I don't care what the Potter people say, it doesn't look as good as the Dragons.

    • @Ravaxr
      @Ravaxr 5 років тому

      @@brandonclark887 It's a travesty those two were scrapped. They ran so beautifully smooth, and probably could have been sold separately.

  • @flowerblightganon5449
    @flowerblightganon5449 4 роки тому +2

    I wonder why it is closing? Watches loop shake at 0:23 and finds answer

  • @thecrazycoaster6635
    @thecrazycoaster6635 5 років тому +4

    Hey go send vortex to Michigan's adventure

  • @maxs6816
    @maxs6816 3 роки тому +2

    As a local who has gone to KI all my life,, I personally am way more sad that firehawk is gone than the headache causing vortex. It used to be better but as the years went on it just got so shaky, hitting your head against the over shoulder restraints made me get the worst headaches and I know I'm not alone on this opinion at all

  • @lamby1022
    @lamby1022 5 років тому +3

    Vortex looks huge 💪🏻

  • @bone4579
    @bone4579 5 років тому +1

    Iconic yes though after a period of infatuation by its groundbreaking innovation the rough brain chattering ride and herky jerky pacing of the ride qualify it for extinction. Locals having ridden this in years.

  • @scorpiodude18
    @scorpiodude18 5 років тому +3

    Carolina Cyclone is still open at Carowinds, it's been open since 1980.

  • @theanygamer4044
    @theanygamer4044 5 років тому +1

    I'm from St Lous, I took a trip to Kings Island last week and I thought. If this place wants to be the next Cedar Point, then what's the next step after Orion? A drop Coaster......
    BTW Ninja at Six flags STL needs to be on the chopping block. Terrible Ride.

  • @andrew.donnel1y
    @andrew.donnel1y 5 років тому +4

    I literally wanted to ride this so bad because it’s an icon but now I never will and I’m literally devastated

  • @nathandroppedoff
    @nathandroppedoff 5 років тому +2

    Relocate to Michigan’s adventure lol

  • @altoidsours
    @altoidsours 5 років тому +3

    I loved this ride. It was my first upside down roller coaster. I was so nervous, but my dad went on it with me and he told me I would have a lot of fun - and I did! It was such a great ride. There was always a long line for it back in the day. But then it just got to be too rough. The last time I rode it was in 2015 and it was just too painful for me, I knew that would be the last time I went on it. I might have changed my mind and gone on it one last time before it was taken down if I had known this was its last year, but unfortunately I can't make it back to Kings Island this year. So goodbye old friend, I'll always have wonderful memories of you.

  • @dustanglx50
    @dustanglx50 5 років тому +2

    Vortex is one of the most beautiful coasters in the world, I won't miss riding it, but I will miss looking at it.

  • @j.van.5335
    @j.van.5335 5 років тому +3

    I took my daughter to kings island for the first time this year. She loved the diamondback and mystic timbers but only rode the vortex once. I have ridden the vortex nearly as much as the beast due to their locations, and I am glad I took her to see it but I will not miss the bumpy ride.

  • @BackSeatJunkie
    @BackSeatJunkie 5 років тому +1

    I'm loving how people are commenting that they were there earlier this summer and Vortex kept breaking down. OF COURSE it magically started "breaking down" this season and then BOOM, near the end of the season they announce that they are removing it. The statement *wag the dog* comes to mind.

  • @clintmullins8670
    @clintmullins8670 5 років тому +3

    Lol Not good for the brakes?
    Hell watch their necks!

  • @Shockzone1495
    @Shockzone1495 4 роки тому +1

    They should make a memorial for Vortex like how they did Son of Beast. That would be a good proper tribute.

  • @jwill6008
    @jwill6008 5 років тому +8

    To my other home park KI... may we bid farewell to The Vortex. I remember when I first rode you almost 30 years ago, and Yes, my moms nails are still lodged in my arms. Goodbye old buddy... AND GOOD RIDDANCE!

  • @TjMills1972
    @TjMills1972 5 років тому +1

    That kinda sucks, even though i rode it this summer and it beat the crap outta me, i still liked it.

  • @shaynak745
    @shaynak745 5 років тому +3

    Wow, this coaster is such eye candy!! I wish I could have ridden it before they closed it down.

  • @johnmiddleton9005
    @johnmiddleton9005 5 років тому +1

    I think there copping out with saying its at the end of its life come on now look at locc ness its the oldest out of them all & still running strong look at Zambezi zinger from worlds of fun they say it was costing them to much to keep it running thats bull it sits in Colombia now running just fine the orient was fine after the fixed the track after it derailed & put a new paint job on it im from kc Ive rode these coasters so saying there at the end of the road no way locc ness is proff

  • @tiedough7481
    @tiedough7481 5 років тому +4

    Should have gotten a Hopkins

  • @kapes13
    @kapes13 5 років тому +1

    BYE Vortex, I'll miss you, another on the list of defunct Coasters I have ridden.................................. :(

  • @abcankickmeistersiceman1740
    @abcankickmeistersiceman1740 5 років тому +5

    I'm really sad!

  • @chris-ly7jm
    @chris-ly7jm 5 років тому +2

    Vortex was one of my most anticipated arrow loopers. It setting is without a doubt one of the best to take pictures at, and I’m very sad to see it go. Arrow please give us pieces to fix this thing. #savevortex

    • @patrickspiers7296
      @patrickspiers7296 5 років тому

      Kromaa arrow as a company does not exist anymore it went bankrupt s&s makes some of the parts. Arrow can not fix it since they don’t exist anymore.

    • @chris-ly7jm
      @chris-ly7jm 5 років тому

      Patrick Spiers I know arrow went bankrupt, but I mean give us parts to fix it.

  • @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser
    @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser 5 років тому +7

    Prime land for a Vekoma Shockwave/TopGun

    • @Koasterking212
      @Koasterking212 5 років тому

      Another Swiss UA-cam User I agree, I think that would be the best fit for that area.

    • @Valzentia
      @Valzentia 5 років тому

      Please. This is Cedar Fair. We all know that the Kings Island Dive Coaster is coming.

    • @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser
      @AnotherSwissYoutubeUser 5 років тому

      WeepinnWillow then they would have 3 tall B&M‘s, that doesn’t make sense.

    • @Ryanreborn.
      @Ryanreborn. 5 років тому +2

      Another Swiss UA-cam User Canada’s Wonderland has entered the chat.

    • @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN
      @TEHSTONEDPUMPKIN 5 років тому

      @@AnotherSwissUA-camUser Having 3 tall B&M's isn't an issue, Canada's Wonderland has a B&M Hyper, Giga, and Dive coaster. Cedar point also has a Hyper, Giga, and a Dive coaster plus a Strata coaster (though I know there NOT from the same manufacturer) A B&M Dive would't be out of place at Kings Island, BUT in that part of the park it would. It would be difficult/if not impossible to theme a modern B&M to the classic "Coney Island" themed area that Vortex is currently in. T-Rex would be the least difficult out of potential B&M Dive/Flying, or Mack Launch, only listed those because that seems to be the ones I hear people talking about replacing Vortex with the most.

  • @theexcreeperpe
    @theexcreeperpe 5 років тому +1

    I say good riddance. It's not a fun ride that is worth the pain like Magnum XL-200 at Cedar Point. It's just bad, and the pain is MUCH worse.

  • @alliechristine6529
    @alliechristine6529 5 років тому +3

    And that part about it never going down is a lie it’s always stuck up to or down for repaire

  • @TheKurtsPlaceChannel
    @TheKurtsPlaceChannel 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day.

  • @BennyLuvsTalks
    @BennyLuvsTalks 5 років тому +3

    This made me want die

  • @nicka.9842
    @nicka.9842 4 роки тому +1

    I have a feeling that Kings Island is going to build a strata coaster in 2023.
    Note the 20 year pattern between Cedar Point and King Island:
    Hyper coaster
    1989: Magnum XL-200
    2009: Diamondback
    Inverted roller coaster:
    1994: Raptor
    2014: Banshee
    Giga coaster:
    2000: Millennium Force
    2020: Orion

  • @benxyb2791
    @benxyb2791 5 років тому +4

    3:32 *1987

  • @bryanterry1111
    @bryanterry1111 5 років тому +1

    I agree, most likely this was a maintenance issue. Six Flags Great America had a mega looper named Shockwave from 1988-2002. It was only 14 years old when they closed it, which is very short for an arrow looper. They were set on removing whizzer in 2002 but because the public demanded them not to, and Shockwaves wheels were already maintenance nightmares and very expensive. They removed Shockwave instead despite it being so young. They were probably spending too much money or tired of replacing Vortex’s brakes for so long. It’s very unfortunate, but I completely understand why they’d remove it.

  • @moderndissident5930
    @moderndissident5930 5 років тому +7

    Raid Cedar fans headquarters. Let’s bring vortex back

  • @Chillguy99
    @Chillguy99 4 роки тому +1

    Taylor is being far too nice about this removal and I believe he's overlooked a couple of things. Firstly Cedar Fair's best business decision was NOT to close Vortex. The wiser move would've been to hire Vekoma or perhaps Chance Rides to re-track the coaster. This would've cost half the amount as building a comparably large ground-up roller coaster and it would've provided some easy marketing gimmicks. You could call it Vortex 2.0 or something. And yes Arrow Dynamics is no longer around however Vortex utilized mostly 1970's roller coaster tech. Basically the same tech on something like Corkscrew (1976) at Cedar Point. This is not rocket science. We don't need Arrow to recreate their track and train tech. This was proved in the early 80's when Arrow sold the rights to their technology to Vekoma and as soon as Vekoma understood the process they split from Arrow and Arrow lost the European marketplace. The simplicity of Arrow's designs inadvertently would lead to their eventual bankruptcy. Anyway this re-tracking would not only create a smoother ride that more of the GP could enjoy but it would also intrigue coaster enthusiasts and long time fans of Vortex who would be compelled to get over to King's Island to ride this new version of their beloved coaster. The happy coaster enthusiasts along with the happy GP would've created tremendously positive word of mouth so Cedar Fair wouldn't have had to even spend that much on advertising. Cedar Fair should've continued operating Vortex at a loss (I struggle to believe it would be that big a loss) for a year or two so the spotlight would've been firmly on Orion for 2020 and then open up the new Vortex and everyone (including Cedar Fair's Shareholders) would've been happy. I'm very disappointed in you Cedar Fair. This was a shamelessly greedy, lazy, idiotic decision.