We get another Warranty bill, we are NOT paying this one, here’s why!

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  • I come in on a bank holiday to check something you guys advised me to on the Golf engine with low oil pressure. Also, we get another bill for the MGB, we decide not to pay this one and here is the reason why.
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  • @simonjohnlavender8987
    @simonjohnlavender8987 Рік тому +60

    Those rings would never bed in properly if it was over fueling, washing the bores

  • @juliancleary2831
    @juliancleary2831 Рік тому +70

    Speaking as a heavy vehicle mechanic of many years I would like to say .. As engineers you dismantle, measure, machine, balance, sometimes modify and reassemble the core engine .. and from what I've seen you do this very professionally. The core now passes to the mechanic/installer who should ensure all the ancillaries are serviceable when fitted + tuned and adjusted .. In my extensive experience it is very very rare that a fault has been found with the core rebuild .. It appears the strange ring wear/smoke is due to incorrect fuel mixture + oil fumes and a lack of hours to bed in (did the customer use bedding in oil?) .. I would add .. You and your team look to be providing an excellent service and a very interesting channel .... well done to you all.

    • @barnesandrewj
      @barnesandrewj Рік тому +2

      Exactly! When it came back you could see rusty ancilliary water parts etc vs clean engine ex Barum,,, Specialists just bolted bits like pcv valve etc etc

    • @brentfellers9632
      @brentfellers9632 Рік тому +3

      My father rebuilt an engine in a dozer while working for Finning Tractor during the 60s or 70s,
      The unit needed transport a couple of hundred miles during a northern Canadian winter, so the trucker left the engine idling for the trip so it wouldn't freeze solid.
      A few days later an angry customer called the branch pissed off because his new engine was burning oil .
      Solution? The sent Dad up north with a couple of cans of Bon-ami (a powdered abrasive kitchen cleaner).
      The fine abrasive was slowly added to the intake with the engine running...presto rings seated. Oil changed and back home!
      Now I'm an old timer myself with stories of my own...but another time lol 😊

    • @juliancleary2831
      @juliancleary2831 Рік тому +2

      @@brentfellers9632 I heard a similar story from a reliable ex plant mechanic that this was also done using fine sand whilst he was working in the middle east many years ago ...... Kind regards.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 Рік тому

      most cores are exactly that, junk. nobody is rebuilding cores before they get sent out

  • @danielbrown4133
    @danielbrown4133 Рік тому +80

    You hit the nail on the head Lee, he's trying to make you pay for something he should have checked out before he pulled the engine! Let it be a lesson to him!

  • @fredyellowsnow7492
    @fredyellowsnow7492 Рік тому +29

    The garage owner had a DOH! moment when he realised the PCV was defective but is in total denial and trying to stiff you for his shortcomings.

  • @davidwood4374
    @davidwood4374 Рік тому +28

    May be worth putting a caveat in the works contract that you cannot be held responsible for subsequent engine assembly or parts failure or anything else that could have been caused by a third party.

  • @ACDodd
    @ACDodd Рік тому +9

    This is so common now mechanics fit freshly machined engines that need breaking in properly. Breaking in needs to be carried out under comptrollers conditions with fueling that is controlled and not to rich. You have shown Classic bore wash, backed up with oil that smells of fuel. Little or no care was paid to the correct setting and tuning of the twin carbs when refitted to this engine. Can also be that the carbs are old and worn out and are unable to
    Control the fueling properly even when tuned correctly initially. The solution is to inform customers up front that bore wash is not a warranty claim and that it’s is the customer’s responsibility to ensure that the fuel system is in good serviceable condition and calibrated to not cause this problem. Change your up front information or you will continue to have warranty problem from garages and diy customers who simply don’t understand bore wash. It is not a machining problem. People also need to understand that the use of a proper running in oil is essential nowadays as oils are now so good components don’t run in as they should, without the use of a proper bedding in oil.

  • @MegaReddevil71
    @MegaReddevil71 Рік тому +12

    Bore wash caused by the over fueling caused the rings not to bed in obviously that pcv valve played a part in the original issue I would charge for the engine work and then pay the bill for the leaks from side covers

  • @djwarren5081
    @djwarren5081 Рік тому +21

    I certainly wouldn't pay it. People will think you're a soft touch and the bills will keep coming. You've been more than fair in your dealings regarding that engine. P.S. I don't find your voice to be annoying 😊

  • @paulpaintshop103
    @paulpaintshop103 Рік тому +29

    It's been over fueled, simple.

    • @djwarren5081
      @djwarren5081 Рік тому +7

      It certainly sounds like it.

    • @paulpaintshop103
      @paulpaintshop103 Рік тому

      @@djwarren5081 yes

    • @madeofscars9355
      @madeofscars9355 Рік тому +2

      I done a basic build on a ford 4.0 turbo barra for a friend (more of an associate than anything) it had the usual stuff H beam rods, late ford Barra mahle pistons, Hastings rings, ACL race series bearings ect.
      it had a base tune in it and in addition to that it had a fuel system installed set up for e85 after the base tune was originally done which the base tune was set up for basically a stock fuel system and because it was being run on regular 98 fuel it was absolutely drowning in fuel, it was bellowing black smoke at idle and just got worse the more throttle was applied (as expected)
      I told him not to drive it until it until he had the tune done but regardless he drove it anyway with plain old regular 98 octane fuel he done less than 50-60km and it was down 10-15 psi compression on all 6 it was blowing blue smoke (as well as black) at idle and was wetting the plugs with oil.
      When I said "I told you so" he asked what I would charge to fix it I said "nothing at all!" When his eyes widened I said because I'm done I'm not touching it again find someone else.

  • @mickthompson584
    @mickthompson584 Рік тому +9

    absolutley the PCV valve, ive done hundreds of these B series engines and the PCV valve is vital.

  • @BOXTERS32
    @BOXTERS32 Рік тому +11

    The PCV valve being open the whole time will suck oil vapour from the crankcase (leads to smoke out of the exhaust) and also lean up the air fuel mix this will not help on a new rebuilt engine.I was a Classic MG tec building and resoring these cars back in the 1990's seen a few of these PCV Valves fail in the past.

    • @stuartandrews4344
      @stuartandrews4344 Рік тому +1

      Speaking from a past experiences with a MGB many moons ago, a faulty pcv valve will also force/allow oil pass the seals, gaskets,rings, plus there high oil consumption,so smokey running.

    • @BOXTERS32
      @BOXTERS32 Рік тому +1

      @@stuartandrews4344 Yes indeed they fitted the PCV valve for a reason.

  • @Mercmad
    @Mercmad Рік тому +6

    I get the oil examined when ana engine comes in for a rebuild . A lab sells oil test kits ,mostly used by trucking companies . I get a list of things in the oil which shouldn't be there . 😊

  • @michaelhope7482
    @michaelhope7482 Рік тому +6

    Hi Lee when I was an apprentice mechanic in the seventies I owned a MGB which was a tad Smokey and was advised by my elders to change that valve (mushroom valve)it certainly helped. It must have been a well known problem back then

  • @Tailhook69
    @Tailhook69 Рік тому +13

    These situations can end up exposing a business to endless (non-billable) hours trying to resolve an issue or complaint that may not be one's fault, at all. It is an inherent business risk for many businesses and the best thing, I think, is to have a consistent culture within BE, whereby, ALL aspects of a job are logged and noted., so that any subsequent audit of work can be fully accounted for. A bit more effort, but I think it's worth it and carries impact, particularly when you can read-off job notes to a complaining client; they realise you're serious about what you do, in all aspects.

    • @brentfellers9632
      @brentfellers9632 Рік тому

      In Canada you can buy contractor insurance, (or used to) if a job goes sideways , say HD engine or powertrain repairs you could maybe not lose your business.

  • @doutendo
    @doutendo Рік тому +4

    Coming from a guy who's ran a workshop, all I can say is fair play to Lee and the guys at berum Engines. Anyone who can show the good, the bad, and even the mistakes that they admit is their fault is in my opinion, worth their weight in gold. When the engine gets tired in my old 200sx I know who ill be taking it to.
    Keeps up the good work!

  • @rayshortall588
    @rayshortall588 Рік тому +6

    I've followed this engine (MGB) issue from the start - There is NO DOUBT is was the PCV right from the outset, I think you should have changed that out first and saved everyone a lot of time and trouble AND sent him the bill

  • @williamlacina5042
    @williamlacina5042 Рік тому

    Love that u got the balls to show the inner working amd dealing you have in ur business. You r helping a ton of younger people learn how to deal with these issues

  • @voxdub8724
    @voxdub8724 Рік тому

    Absolutely love how honest you are, absolute shame others trying to stick issues to you when you go above and beyond in sorting issues, including those which aren't your responsibility to fix. Keep up the great work and tell that garage where to go on this one

  • @Carvetii
    @Carvetii Рік тому +18

    Sometimes it get to a point where you just have to tell them to sod off. Sounds like this bloke buggered it by not replacent the pcv valve and is looking to blame everyone else bar himself.

  • @chriseggleton9859
    @chriseggleton9859 Рік тому

    Let’s just say you are one of the most honest channel on UA-cam. Which I think is great because most other channels don’t show anything like this or mistakes. Keep the great videos coming.
    Cheers lads.

  • @johncallaghan4616
    @johncallaghan4616 Рік тому +7

    Thanks for the commitment in posting the vid in lieu of Hooning around a track - hope you shake the lurgy off soon!
    For the MG engine, it looks like a game of ‘pass-the-parcel’ and the Owners’ Garage ‘bloke’ is just playing harder than you - absolutely right not to pay!
    (Side note: following my call to you a couple of weeks back (Hong Kong), would be handy if you could have a quick look at the email I sent ya whilst the shop’s quiet😉👍🏻)
    Keep ‘em comin’
    JCHK

  • @rrotwang
    @rrotwang Рік тому

    I was a mechanic in the 70s for lincoln & cadillac
    You do fantastic work
    Don't let them bother you
    Adam Wolf Brooklyn nyc

  • @whitacrebespoke
    @whitacrebespoke Рік тому +2

    I think I’d be raising the bill for what you did like taking engine out etc. replacing the bell housing bolts, engineer etc then have solicitor word a letter pointing out you repair the only thing you could find with your work and paid the garage to fix the leak. Make it clear that your bit done and that’s end of it. In future you need a term and condition that you take NO responsibility for engine tuners carb set up or ancillaries. Also state clearly your warranty/ complaint procedure that the engine has to be presented to you as it was for repair with in 1 year. If that’s a full car that’s fine bring car back if it’s a stripped engine then it’s a stripped engine. Keep strict records on file for each engine so you can Chuck back at them exactly what you did and on what engine number. Stamp your job number on block somewhere discrete.
    Anyone that runs a business that has not had a hard time with atleast one job is a very lucky person.

  • @peterknight4692
    @peterknight4692 Рік тому +11

    The odd looking wear on the rings is, I suspect, due to the sections of the rings close to the gap not being held to the bore radius, unlike the rest of the ring well away from the gap. This leads to greater wear just on the tips at the gap and less wear for a short distance either side of the gap. Given enough time and no glazing the whole ring would bed in properly. The failed PCV valve being open the whole time must have screwed the tickover tuning up massively so it would be no wonder the engine ran rich at part throttle.

  • @gothicpagan.666
    @gothicpagan.666 Рік тому +1

    That mgb has a problem with operator error.
    Bore washing, engine running off load is all thats required to ruin a good engine when it's new.
    Simply set ign. timing in the ball park, run up on chissis dyno for 30 mins, AFR around 13:1 or 4.5%co. Run it at 2-2500 rpm showing between 20-25 hp.
    Reset timing and carbs (idle speed will by now stop increasing) check tappets, attend to any leaks, send it out the door. Oil& filter change @ 500 miles, re-adjust carbs change needles to correct what will now be over fueling; another 500 miles latet, do the same again.
    Run up on dyno for final set up, they always have different exhausts/air filters.
    By this point the engine will be bedded in.
    This is the cheap way of doing it, not the best, but few MG owners want to pay £600 for 8hrs with their new engine sat on the test bench under controlled conditions.

  • @DS246416
    @DS246416 Рік тому +1

    their comes a time, when you need to close a chapter, and it has come, this guy is a chancer, you have went above and beyond!

  • @martinstone3656
    @martinstone3656 Рік тому +6

    Ha ha, my other half walks round the house going "Hi Guys" as soon as the start of your video comes on, all good fun keep up the good work

  • @Impulse5596
    @Impulse5596 Рік тому +28

    You need to say that subscribing is completely free, as many people think they have to pay!

    • @oakwoods55
      @oakwoods55 Рік тому +4

      I’ve never in the life of UA-cam, hearing anyone say, that they think subscribing costs money.

    • @stephenjobe9944
      @stephenjobe9944 Рік тому

      Very funny

    • @mattlawton4715
      @mattlawton4715 Рік тому

      🤣

    • @Impulse5596
      @Impulse5596 Рік тому +4

      @@oakwoods55 I've spoken to lots of people who thought they had to pay to subscribe

    • @oakwoods55
      @oakwoods55 Рік тому

      @@Impulse5596 new one on me.

  • @andrewbuckley5048
    @andrewbuckley5048 Рік тому

    Another very interesting post, I am amazed people have had a dig with "warranty" issue 🙄 I'm sure a factor in this is because you're style/mission statement is that this is a warts & all record of daily & weekly workloads. Keep up the great work & content👌😉👍

  • @DennisWalker-bn6su
    @DennisWalker-bn6su Рік тому +7

    I notice that you have not mentioned the oil pressure release valve, just a suggestion, liking the site. keep it going.

    • @huwzebediahthomas9193
      @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому +1

      An oil pressure release valve depends on the strength of it's spring. 🙂

  • @George-qf9vh
    @George-qf9vh Рік тому

    Been a mechanic myself it’s a nightmare Now a days as there are so much too go wrong totally out of your hands. Keep up the great work

  • @scottpower3101
    @scottpower3101 Рік тому +1

    In Australia, if a engine is not fitted and started by a certified mechanic and started, etc, you are not covered by manufacturer warranty

  • @leecunningham5062
    @leecunningham5062 Рік тому +1

    You do way more for these guys than i ever did !

  • @STANLIZ4
    @STANLIZ4 Рік тому

    You said it”its the same for any business!” my strategy was jump on the problem immediately and deal with it asap. It demonstrates serious concern and conveys it is an unusual occurrence etc. firm clear reason/action puts you in the best place

  • @donaldhalls2189
    @donaldhalls2189 Рік тому

    It can go the other way to, one I got a head done and one valve stem guide was moving up and down, when customer parked it ,it was on an angle oil would run into the cylinder, when it was started in the morning it would smoke like crazy, 😢 but it was the valve guide, needless to say I lost the customer, thanks for sharing,all the best to you and your loved ones

  • @charlesgraham9954
    @charlesgraham9954 Рік тому +1

    i feel for u broh, my grandfather and dad just had a small engine shop, and the headaches they got from costumers would have been too much for me. people seem to think owning your own business is peaches and cream while the money rolls in. go look up how many small businesses fail because of one customer bankrupting them. u will be shocked how lil it takes.

  • @catxls1835
    @catxls1835 Рік тому

    Well said Lee!

  • @erniemathews5085
    @erniemathews5085 Рік тому

    Gotta be rough when you do good, careful work and still have to battle a**wipes. Hope things get better.

  • @beachwood41
    @beachwood41 Рік тому +1

    You missed a good day. Only rained for 10 minutes then cleared up. I did keep an eye out for you 👍

  • @ForSunday
    @ForSunday Рік тому

    You can still buy the bearings for the VW 16v intermediate shafts, currently rebuilding a 16v myself. VW is nice and straightforward for the retro stuff.

  • @billjamison2877
    @billjamison2877 Рік тому +1

    My dad always said "there's an ass for every seat" and all appearances, this fits to a tee, the original customer and the garage mechanic! Don't pay Lee!

  • @vibeflyer
    @vibeflyer Рік тому +5

    Sometimes in life Lee you can be too nice and unfortunately people will take advantage. Love the channel though

  • @robinottaway5801
    @robinottaway5801 Рік тому +2

    Many years ago I dismantled lots of MGB s .I also serviced and rebuilt them. I often had Bs come in smoking heavily . This was cured instantly by blocking off the PCV with a spark plug and resetting the carbs. Smoking cured. How any body could not see the PCV as the problem is a mystery to me.

    • @georgebettiol8338
      @georgebettiol8338 Рік тому

      I suspect it's a workshop that conducts work on 'current vehicles' (probably poorly) and with little to no experience with older vehicles like MGBs.

  • @peterwalton1502
    @peterwalton1502 Рік тому +2

    I am no expert but you seem to handle any problems really well.

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому +2

    Maybe more of a Wurzels accent might make her happier, Lee - ooooh arrr. 🙃🤪

  • @matthewjenkins1161
    @matthewjenkins1161 Рік тому +3

    You need to actually stand up for yourselves in Court this time if it gets that far, or the claims will never end.

  • @bishopcorva
    @bishopcorva Рік тому

    By the sound as described, the glazing didn't help with the ring seating. Which was caused by the unburned fuel vapor being given free access to the crank case. Both of which would contribute to odd ring wear and blow-by smoke with a likely addition of a not complete cylinder clean up.
    In essence, a lot of small things adding together to make a larger issue. One that could have been much worse had it not been a smoker as soon as it was after being worked on. Had the rings seated proper, it may have concealed the fuel contamination long enough to fry the bearings and turned the engine into a boat anchor. Either way it's no one's fault and it's just one of those things where it happens, you learn and more on.

  • @onenuttybuddy
    @onenuttybuddy Рік тому

    Happy Easter, Lee. It all sounds fair to me. Some customers are NEVER happy. I used to sell car back in the day. Customers that you made a fortune on loved you the most and were always coming back for their next car. Customers that bought their cars at the breakeven price complained, complained, complained. Good sold customers, the bread and butter of our plant, were fantastic. they new we provided quality products and stood behind our shite. The "one off" customers never stopped moaning and groaning. Isn't it fun owning a small business? Take care.

  • @richardroberts8742
    @richardroberts8742 Рік тому

    Sounds like a classic case of bore washing from over fuelling, from this the rings were never able to bed in and rapidly worn.

  • @Kranky_Bloke
    @Kranky_Bloke Рік тому

    Hope you get to feeling better mate.

  • @jessh5310
    @jessh5310 Рік тому

    I had a Vauxhall engine which was leaking fuel into the sump after being reconditioned, The smoking and poor running pretty much matched your description

  • @barnesandrewj
    @barnesandrewj Рік тому

    You spot on re MG! Re Golf try tell customer use Golf 1 original Castrol GTX.

  • @clintonmississippi2108
    @clintonmississippi2108 Рік тому

    Lee, You cannot discover every small chip, crack or installed component manufacturing weakness. I believe anyone with a business providing a service such as yours has the same problems and yes some are problems caused by the customers servicing and operating of the component you carefully remanufactured. Try as hard as you can to have a quality program in your business to reduce your problems and that's the best you can do. Have a check off list covering all the expected procedures required of the entire job.
    Really enjoy your videos and seeing how you respond to the different problems you have with your customers. Remember they are only human. (😀) It's tough as hell paying top dollar to get something restored and then breaking it yourself. Remember, there is always the human nature option to try a warranty repair. Explain the failure to the owner and try and sympathize with him/her. They will appreciate the effort you put out trying to make them feel better. At least until they have to reach in their pocket and fork out a few more quid.
    Sam

  • @Noslime
    @Noslime Рік тому

    I just love it when customers don’t give you the time to tell them that you’re going to take care of the issue make this automatically get salty

  • @keithwaller4545
    @keithwaller4545 Рік тому

    May be going forward with the old skool engines . Make customers have carbs rebuild and ignition timing checked with proof with co and hc readings just make sure fueled correctly. I had a lotus esprit with twin delorto carbs. Didn't take much adjustment to get carbs running well rich on rebuilt carbs.

  • @gilly71270
    @gilly71270 Рік тому

    very interesting as always have you ever seen a broken crankshaft on a 2014 transit connect 1.6 tdci engine ?

  • @shaundadson8302
    @shaundadson8302 Рік тому

    What I've found on rare occasions with some particular customers is that once you've touched something off the car you become responsible for the whole lot of it!. The responsibility with a new engine is down to the person/garage installing it and a lot of people don't realise that something like that PCV valve/over fuelling, or even over-heating and incorrect run in procedure can completely ruin a new engine. Maybe you need to have a check list printed and given to people with their new engine stating do's and donts and that you won't be responsible if they run the engine with faults and incorrect set-up and subsequently damage it. At least you got it sorted - just a shame they tried to stuff you.

  • @madbbtk3682
    @madbbtk3682 Рік тому

    Like that huddy should give me one for how many vidz I've sat down and watch lol

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому +4

    Oh not this saga of a BMC PCV valve on an old MGB again? Remember folks, rubber perishes! How old??? Oh dear.... 😎👍

    • @getahanddown
      @getahanddown Рік тому +1

      It's crazy. People pay for a new build then 'cheap' out, costing big.
      I have 1500km on my first properly built, balanced, blueprinted etc engine and did all filters, injectors, belts etc as cheap insurance.

    • @huwzebediahthomas9193
      @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому

      @@getahanddown
      Old new stock brake components is the worst - you have got to replace the johnnies stroke rubbers components - they are toast.

    • @295walk
      @295walk Рік тому

      @@getahanddown most tickle about , Ive always given a short period of good load up and down gears. You want it hot enough to expand the ring to bed. If over fueling then its going to run too cool aswell?

  • @paulmuff9883
    @paulmuff9883 Рік тому +1

    I’ve built up MGBGT engines for about 50 years & 1 they usually use / burn oil for the first 500 to 1000 miles as that’s what they take to run/bed in ,2 with the knackered PC valve you can’t tune the mixture properly and probably would be far to rich and washing the boar’s with the excess petrol! , I wouldn’t pay them a penny as they obviously don’t know what they are doing trying to set the Carb’s up damaged valve in the first place!

  • @alanjohnstone2539
    @alanjohnstone2539 Рік тому

    You have acted very fairly here as usual so well done 👍

  • @edwardtaylor4785
    @edwardtaylor4785 Рік тому +1

    Well, while you're grasping at straws on the Golf engine, I worked with a lot of high pressure gear pumps in the past and, while circumferential clearance is important, end clearance plays a huge role as well. So, you might want to take a look at that while everything on the bench if you haven't already done so. Yeah, I know, new pump should be fine, but something must be amiss someplace. Pressure relief spring, seat and associated worth a look as well.

  • @nicgeorgiou8054
    @nicgeorgiou8054 Рік тому

    Regarding the MG. I accidentally covered the tiny breather hole in the top of the PCV on mine and it sucked engine oil out of the sump and blew it out the exhaust like no tomorrow. Took me a while to figure out why my very good engine was smoking so badly all of a sudden.

  • @HillbillyNitroRC-qs9dy
    @HillbillyNitroRC-qs9dy Рік тому

    What a headache. This is why owning a business can be daunting. You did everything a top notch business should do. I wonder if the customer will see this video. I hope so.

  • @petesullivan5540
    @petesullivan5540 Рік тому

    The PCV diaphragm was the Problem I worked on MGB s for 25 years and this was a common problem you would back off the gas and because of high manifold vacuum it sucks the oil out of the crank case

  • @Mazdafan59
    @Mazdafan59 Рік тому

    Hi. I was thinking that the problem could be a Crack that opens up as it warms up. If you can pressure test the oil system with it assembled

  • @andythorne1261
    @andythorne1261 Рік тому

    hi Lee, I fitted a goldseal engine from bmc in the mid 80's to Morris miner 1000 very Smokey bmc told me if After 5000 miles still smokey contact them again, 1 pint of oil 400 miles was excetable for the First 2000 miles which I thought was poor,

  • @MDAdams72668
    @MDAdams72668 Рік тому

    You have always been more than fair and GOOD ONYOU (and both business yt+be)

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 Рік тому

    Yup! A rich mixture will cause havoc to a cylinder. Stand your ground on this one.

  • @grahamhardy1358
    @grahamhardy1358 Рік тому

    Always difficult when a garage sends you a car to repair that they can't themselves, just creates more headaches

  • @stooartbabay
    @stooartbabay Рік тому +3

    The rubber gasket on the front cover plate (the one with the breather) is slightly too small… you need to be very careful when applying it as the front cover is slightly larger than the rear cover. The best solution is to use the hard gaskets… but haven’t seen any available for a few years…

    • @jamesleicher
      @jamesleicher Рік тому

      cant you buy roll of the hard gasket?I remember My dad making his own for old woodworking machines that had large oiled gear box lid on side of thinknesser,maybe my dad was using steam gasket lol

    • @kiwidiesel
      @kiwidiesel Рік тому +1

      @@jamesleicher You are correct. I make many of my own gaskets onsite with various thickness and compound gasket paper.

  • @Maxx1066
    @Maxx1066 Рік тому

    You did the right thing but there's people who no nothing about setting up an engine an will pass blame to anyone except themselves I know of a Mini really nice car 1430 the car needs a distributor when they got stuck outside my Dads I offered them a spare but I see it years later still breaking down it boggles the mind I wish I was getting the money for Towing lol

  • @Kaballasx
    @Kaballasx Рік тому

    I saw a Russian video, that had an engine no head on it with an electric motor. He demonstrated that a rebuilt engine, where the rings have not bedded in yet throws a decent amount of oil in the bores. That might be the smoking issue.
    Just send him the bill for rechecking the engine and fixing the sleeves where it had been glazed and mention the oil sample and that you would get back to him as soon as you get the results of the engine oil. If there is too much fuel in the oil, then you know it was over fueling and you can attribute the issues to over fueling. Yes there will be trace amounts of fuel. The maximum tolerance of fuel in the oil should say if it is too much or acceptable.

  • @aldoblasigh7533
    @aldoblasigh7533 Рік тому

    Check the oil pressure on the vw or look inside the tapit cover it looks looks like the zambez River that is the problem

  • @billybgamer5205
    @billybgamer5205 Рік тому +1

    You need something to run motors on before you ship them. Or when you get them back.

  • @glennpowell3444
    @glennpowell3444 Рік тому

    Hiya.This one baffles me totally.Knowing the PCV was toast why was it not changed before all of the strip down?Ok it may have made no difference but it explains why the bores have glazed and smoked.So maybe the damage had been done but to rebuild it and still use that valve?Also those push rod covers warp so be it cork or rubber gasket they can still leak.Triumph 2000,s were famous for it for some reason.I guess cheap tin back then?Also these types of engines were never designed to run on modern super synthetic thin oils so can leak like a sieve and burn oil.The A series is a good example.You may want to put out a video on what oils you use on various engines?

  • @julianhoskins5158
    @julianhoskins5158 Рік тому

    It was said before.... You should have given the engine back with the faulty Pcv valve fitted and advise them of the suspected Pcv valve.... then when it continued to smoke then go round there and fit the new PCV valve and then show them the smoking has stopped. To top it all off.... Bore wash with over fueling will really bugger up the ring bedding in process which obviously compounds the problem. It's just a down hill spiral! On top of that you have a customer who refuses to admit fault and take any blame or responsibility!.... It's his car FFS, he seems "clever" enough and knowledgeable enough to think the rings "are like 50 pence pieces" and that that was the fault.!!!! The mind boggles at the customers you have to deal with Lee.

  • @josephp5058
    @josephp5058 Рік тому +1

    Lee, can a faulty crankshafts ie the casting be sort of XRayed ? I’m talking of the LR Discovery 3 and 4 short block diesel the crankshaft snap in exactly the same place on some at very low mileage others go on and never snap - just a thought

    • @super6954
      @super6954 Рік тому

      They won't do it anymore, but it wouldn't of been the first time a component from a machines been down the local vets for an xray. so yes it's possible, they do the welds in big oil/gas pipelines here in Canada as well.

    • @josephp5058
      @josephp5058 Рік тому

      @@super6954 Thanks for the advise appreciated

  • @peterjewell9436
    @peterjewell9436 Рік тому +8

    Mate i feel for you i spent 5yrs doing this work and you usually find its another party that causes you grief sounds like the garage had a fueling issue and could have had heating issue causing the rings to lose tension just my thought from listening to your description

    • @gailtaylor1636
      @gailtaylor1636 Рік тому +5

      PCV was creating a lean fuel mixture. That shop adjusted the carburetor to compensate which washed the cylinders with fuel (petrol for you heathens). That shop knew they screwed up but like most of hard-headed men couldn't admit that. don't pay them a nickel. Fire them as a customer. Move on.

    • @memememe2674
      @memememe2674 Рік тому +2

      If you do th s sort of work can I ask a question, by showing losds if vids like this would you not be scared that it puts customs off? I was led here because I was looking at engine rebuilds. Don't think I have ever seen a vid here of any length and detail showing how good they are. It might be good to show us about scammers and chances and warm other shop owners but I do have a view that if I see a company showing all the good work I would use that over these guys, with the no smoke without fire, rightly or wrongly, and when a good gesture is made by these guys, many would say why do that if not to blame.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Рік тому

      @@memememe2674 I've been watching this channel from almost day three lol and there are plenty of examples of the full rebuild and problems they have sourcing parts ( just look at the Jaguar 4.2 supercharged AJV8 engine they did last year to see what I mean, that engine cost around 9 grand to do the parts were so unavailable and expensive including a rebuilt supercharger which was nothing to do with Barum) but the time it took for Lee to source parts to do the job properly shows you the dedication they have into producing a properly rebuilt engine. Most engine recoditioners would just put the parts they couldn't get back in the engine or say it's a scrap unit.

  • @itsverygreen532
    @itsverygreen532 Рік тому

    Put simply, if he can detect a difference between the new PCV and the old PCV (ie it wont run with the old one) that proves the PCV is knackered!

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому

    My mate came to see me yesterday afternoon - he's got a couple of BMW's, road rally prepared ones, late 1980's 3 series ones - I told him about you and all, Lee. He has an aircraft too, he might fly over across the Bristol Channel one day to see you - is there an airstrip near Barnstaple? A flat field then? A road?

    • @mikehipperson
      @mikehipperson Рік тому

      Yes, the former RAF base at Chivenor now closed to fixed wing aircraft.

  • @peterjackhandy
    @peterjackhandy Рік тому +1

    I'm absolutely gobsmacked that @Anyone, be it garage or final customer, would send an engine back for inspection under warranty with a PC valve, or any other vital ancillary, busted like that one was.
    If I was a total b'stard I'd have binned it & fitted one from the local scrapper.

  • @malfunction8165
    @malfunction8165 Рік тому

    I've had it done to me, I got the blame for an issue caused by the person who repaired a camshaft cap. He said I'd overtightened it and pulled the thread out of the cap, when in fact he hadn't put a Helicoil in it, any way he put a Helicoil in and sorted the problem, but I neve went back to him.

  • @leewatson8129
    @leewatson8129 Рік тому

    A PCV valve will cause oil burning so not your problem. The petrol in the oil will screw up the ring bedding in.
    Some people will blame anyone but themselves. Once dealt with a customer who was claiming the crankshaft was warped as it had been measured by an 'engineer' with vernier callipers! The engine was 200K miles old, and had a refresh at 180K.

  • @gregpratt49
    @gregpratt49 Рік тому +1

    I've had oil dilution from block mounted fuel pump leaking fuel to thin oil out = low press and or smoke. Rich look on plugs too.

  • @johncherish7610
    @johncherish7610 Рік тому

    In the USA the minute you touch something like an engine, any problems it has even if it's not your fault, becomes your fault according to the owner of it, no matter what. It seems there is always this back and forth of blame and it is always is not the owners fault it seems. To combat this many shops these days here in the USA video the complete teardown especially documenting the problems they find and then the repair processes used to fix the problems just in case it comes down to it. A video documentation always helps if it comes down to going to court as well as written documentation

  • @mikepickett3277
    @mikepickett3277 Рік тому +2

    It seems to me Lee, that the MGB guy won’t be satisfied until you pay for a new engine. To many coincidences with the PCB Valve and the fuel drenched oil and ring edges.

    • @chiefrocka8604
      @chiefrocka8604 Рік тому

      I’d of said the invoice is not with you so due to gdpr F Off

  • @MrGuvEuroman
    @MrGuvEuroman Рік тому +1

    Set the carb up wrong bore washed the new engine, probably glazed because it sat for nearly a day idling while they messed about try to set the carbs up with the knackered pcv

  • @davidwharton841
    @davidwharton841 Рік тому

    Who knows how the mg B is getting driven. At the end of the day it's a Morris Oxford/ Austin Cambridge engine. Made for pottering around in not ragging about.

  • @petermcilroy3224
    @petermcilroy3224 Рік тому +1

    Some customers are just not worth it. This one is going to keep taking the piss

  • @lodgecav490
    @lodgecav490 Рік тому +9

    I do wish you would invest more cash into the core machines you use daily and bring things a bit more up to date, and a bit less on the toys. Prioritise the things that keep the complaints reduced, then play🎉.

    • @anthonyworthington6495
      @anthonyworthington6495 Рік тому +2

      He has no complaints, the buggers are trying it on🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    • @peterthompson5391
      @peterthompson5391 Рік тому +2

      Why invest it what's not broke?

    • @alanrichardson1672
      @alanrichardson1672 Рік тому +1

      @@peterthompson5391 speed, efficiency, quality, less downtime etc.

    • @samrodian919
      @samrodian919 Рік тому +1

      I have to admit some of the machines are a bit "Heath Robinson" as Lee likes to say, like the boring mill it's gash 1940's or even earlier, compared with Jims's Automotive channel which is pretty up to date.

    • @alanrichardson1672
      @alanrichardson1672 Рік тому +1

      @@samrodian919 and I'll guarantee none of the measurement equipment will have a valid calibration certificate 😳

  • @daveking4229
    @daveking4229 Рік тому

    Am curious if the car was driven by owner? With the bad pvc and all the petrol in oil I wonder if someone went out to thrash the new engine and it glazed or didn't break in properly?

  • @geraldwenn9698
    @geraldwenn9698 Рік тому +2

    If he changed mechanics because he wasn't happy that bill is on him in my book. He should of gone to this mg specialist in the first place is your comeback same as the gearbox you stuffed up that's was on you because your not qualified with gearboxes.

  • @jan_vyhnak
    @jan_vyhnak Рік тому

    i was surprised by the engine size. then i realized its Golf engine not golf. i was thinking about golf cart :D

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Рік тому

    Biggest fuckups on oil leaking on old classic Minis is the output shafts area out of their gearboxes - you have got to change the brass bearings and oil seals and torque up the nuts correctly - and it is nothing to do with an engine restoration!!!

  • @stevefairbanks835
    @stevefairbanks835 Рік тому +3

    Sounds like the garage are a bunch of complete amateurs. PHV valve failure = cannot set the carbs up properly. His issue

  • @teltwosheds2972
    @teltwosheds2972 Рік тому

    You've done your bit. Stuff em 😊

  • @mrmick4757
    @mrmick4757 Рік тому +2

    Can you pressure test the oil way's in the block!

  • @SuperDirk1965
    @SuperDirk1965 Рік тому +2

    Must say I enjoy your videos about actual work being done much more than the ones about litigation. If I want to see things about litigation I'll watch Barum Barristers

  • @ernsailor9041
    @ernsailor9041 Рік тому

    The worst part of running a business is the customers. The most important part of running a business is the customers.