@@nodak81 "None of those are as good as you think they are." The ones in the first minute of the video look to be late model (video creator stated 2008). I assure you a small business owner could put those trucks to work even if they needed some $$$ put into them to get them up to snuff. The would more than likely be replacing a 20-25 year old truck with these if they werent destroyed.
With our military trucks, the same vehicle purchased by civilians, go to auction when repairs exceed a percentage of the original price. So you could have a truck with a new engine that now needs a tail light, and won't get repaired. Engine oil change cycles was based on mileage, not engine run time. Our flight line trucks ran 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and rarely exceeded 15 mph. By the time we hit the 3000 mile oil change, the oil was like molasses.
Robert Heinkel I work for the GA Agri Expo authority and we drive the wheels off of our vehicles. But my security pickup is just like you said with oil changes, by mileage not run time. And being a early model F150 it has problems lubricating the cam/valves especially since half the time it’s running its idle, and the thick oil doesn’t help that problem
All they are doing is fudging the market and making it harder on people. Those cash for clunkers car have a market from build/first owner all the way up to the last owner and scrap yard. Throw in a monkey wrench like cash for clunkers and you are altering the transportation industry.
We still have something like this in the UK. Its called the "Scrappage scheme". "Let’s destroy completely usable, affordable vehicles that don’t meet our standards. "
Cash for clunkers killed the used car market still to this day because a lot of first time car buyers or people with low income or a young driver just got his or her drivers license have less inventory to choose from new teenage drivers don’t need a chevy Camaro,Ford Mustang,Dodge challenger/charger or any type of fast speed car a used Ford Crown Victoria or Chevy Caprice or Honda Civic/Accord or other vehicles like these will do just fine.
press f for all the GMC Syclones and Typhoons, as well as other sport vehicles, and possibly even vintage cars that met their untimely end due to that hideously wasteful government program. F
If somebody was dumb or smart enough to scrap a typhoon or cyclone then the car deserved to die. A lot of these govt vehicles are crap. They are abused, a lot of times the "mechanics" working on them do the very least to keep them running. I work with the county and they scrap million dollar machines that another company buys and puts to work sometimes at a huge cost. I don't know about you but I wouldn't buy a 10 year old plow truck.
I wouldn't consider it wasting at least they are auctioning them off. Out here once it's time to reup in my small town that I work for, which is usually every 10 yrs. They trade them in for next to nothing for the new fleet to come.
The state will get a real market value for the trucks, as for the ones that got cut up, 100% agree completely stupid and will not yield the environmental benefits, they hope for, as they will be parted out to keep trucks just like them on the road longer . The real government waist you will find at the local level, were items are bought just to auction or completely re-built , to sell to some one "in the know" You know advertised in the lowest circulating newspaper as far away as legal possible.. and then if anyone shows up, its get even sketcher
eric wsmith you do realize how nys "auctions" work, don't you ? The vehicles are all bid $1 for by friends/business partners of the Cocksuckercuomo regime. The two with the cut frames are the only ones that will actually be auctioned.
@@ROTAXD --Yes, I know how a auction works,,,, and I 100% guarantee no one from the "Cocksuckercuomo regime." are bidding on any old state trucks, That is so fucking small potatoes for their corruption its laughable and makes you sound like a crack pot.
I don't really want to get into a political debate but I'm a libertarian conservative former Republican I am a hardcore proponent of small Government This is a perfect example of why government needs to be limited this is a good example of the waste in government and it also shows how ridiculous the diesel emissions law's are!
@eat me nobody breeds trucks. They manufacture them. Big difference. And any emissions advantage of destroying an old diesel are quickly exceeded by the environmental impact of manufacturing the new diesel that will take it's place.
Sure... But you need to get it out of there first and tow the two parts to somewhere someone can do that and that wont be cheap. Its probably cheaper to buy a whole one with a bad engine or something and use the cut ones for parts
@jason9022 They probably say that cuz they want you to buy a new frame or covering them selfs if your weld sux and the truck folds in two at 70mph killing a family of 6 or something
I was making fun of the question. Apparently my joke wasn't funny. The question of what will emit more an existing vehicle or making a whole new vehicle isn't really the right question.
3:07 I've never seen a plow truck hooked up like that. That is freakin awesome as hell and looks like it really gets the job done. It's a crying shame stuff like this goes to waste rather than just fixing what the problem is and getting a few more years in on it. I know people who drive the same car for YEARS til they drive it into the ground.
Whoever is responsible for this needs to be fired and prosecuted for criminal waste of our money. Somehow it doesn't surprise me that it's New York, beautiful state, a lot of wonderful people, and the worst state government in the nation.
Matt Lane I’m from Western New York. I wish NYC was its own district, absolutely can’t stand how the NYC area essentially screws the rest of the state over.
No it’s not maybe the second worse state the number one worse state is California it in a state of bankruptcy in some way or another the constant wildfires they have increases its cost of running the state that it exceeds its budget year after year when wildfires are are at their worst.
Back in the 80's I knew somebody that owned an old state highway crew cab PU truck. It was slow. The gearing was meant for towing equipment not for speed. It was getting below 10 MPG. It was loud inside.
As a small business owner, I’d still love to have one of those trucks. I’d get the frame repaired. I’ve had a single axle semi stretched for a 20yd bed on the back.
I do believe I would've tried for one of the late model crew cabs! If the frame was only cut in one spot, a good shop should be able to repair it pretty reasonably! After that, whatever you wanted to do with it!
SOME of those trucks were ready for the scrapper...but the ones at the start of the vid were clearly still in good shape...typical government... it's always easiest to waste OTHER peoples money
I hope Trump kicks these idiots into the unemployment lines!!! He needs to eliminate the unions also!!!! There is no way to have limited criminality in government; the criminals just take over!!!!
@@garybulwinkle82 You want to remove criminals from government? Let's start from the top and get the guy that refuses to pay the people that work for him out of there. Or his daughter that used her personal email just just Clinton did.
@@Roushfan5 Ivanka using a personal email is not the same as what Clinton did. Clinton had her own server running in her house, Ivanka just used a personal email account and it is unclear if those emails involved classified materials. Meaning that records of those emails are still on another server and could be re-looked at to determine if it involved classified material or not. Unlike with Hillary, where the emails did involve classified information and once caught she had her servers and other devices destroyed. Kind of a big difference here.
Your so right about the government when it cones to grants & destroying perfect equipment, I saw a video recently which is the same with school buses. These trucks not in bad shape at all. Thank you for sharing!
I worked for the thruway authority at the exit 22 yard where the auctions for all thruway equip was sold,you had to make it sound like it didn't run or missing parts,or non runner just to cover your ass in case it broke on the way home,and this made buyers tow it away most of the time.
I worked on a fishing trawler in the UK which was decommissioned. The huge trawler was lifted out the water and a government minister, complete with suit, hard hat and clip board was ticking off each part is it was destroyed on the fishing trawler. Only a few select items could be sold on - the prop shaft (without propeller), a radar unit on top of the cabin and the glass from the cabin. Everything else had to be destroyed by the waiting breakers. It was madness.
such a shame to cut up good trucks for emissions credits, the manufacturing process of the new trucks has to produce as much emissions. as those trucks would have produced for the rest of there life
@@danh2134 you mean you somehow missed the obvious torch cut? even in a high salt abusive enviroment those frames are a 30 year expected "minimum" lifespan chunk of steel that come fully anti rust coated, they wouldn't pass DOT standards for road use otherwise.
"missing axle" is probable an axle that they broke and is not worth replacing due to the value of the truck. but it could be a cheap easy fix for someone
The first two numbers on the plate are the year of the vehicle so those trucks that were cut in half were 04's and 05's not that I'm justifying cutting up perfectly good trucks. They don't just cut them in half either they are required to cut a hole in the engine block so that non emissions engine can never harm the environment again....... cash for clunkers of big rigs
WOW! How stupid to cut up perfectly fine International DOT truck's just because of emissions?! Definitely a small town or a business could definitely use those 10 year old truck's! Again how stupid of the government! But no one ever said that the government was smart!
Republicans plans to sell new trucks by cutting up perfectly good used trucks and the new trucks will face the same fate when they don't meet "emissions" standards but hey ... Global warming is not a real thing ? Right ? So why ?
@@fluke196c Just look up DOT roadside inspection. I drive rolloff trucks for my friends business when I'm not busy, and I've been pulled over, and ticketed before. And they seriously scour every inch of the vehicle, they'll even crawl under it and inspect brake lines, tires, everything.
.... The trucks that are cut up received a $10,000 credit from the Feds for each truck that was cut in half. Much less than what they would get in the auction. The "Defects" that are listed so they do have a reason to sell them off. In some cases there is actually nothing wrong with the trucks, Just age and/or mileage. The last Mack in your video was actually a 10 wheel 5th wheel Low Boy tractor with a modified sander body resting on the 5th wheel.
As someone that works for the government. Our trucks get old before they break down. We have big rigs with less miles that my cars. We have a couple big rig 18 wheelers that are 10+ years old and only have 11,xxx miles on them....
Actually the truck is a 2004 model. The state dot who my father worked for the first 2 digits are the yr that the truck was used so it’s a 2004 freight liner not a 2008. If it was it Would be 08 with the rest of the numbers. That’s how the state marks some of the vehicles.
How sick-so many destitute countries was be thrilled to have those trucks.So sick- school furniture,old fire engines,ambulances could be given to less fortunate countries.
At least one of the "single" axle trucks was actually a "tandem". They took one axle out and left one so they could move it. You could see the mounting points on the frame for the front axle.
As an ex government employee you would be amazed at what they made me bury. Plows, dump beds, wood chippers, ovens, pallets of 3/4" socket kits, engines, all buried in LNP...
I worked for NYS for 3 years I never heard of that or seen that trucks were sold as is all they did was spray paint over the stickers and numbers And all large dump trucks (Mack and international) from the year 13 and up are automatics the 13s have a clutch and push pads the rest are fully automatic
I can't believe they are forced to cut them I work for DOT here in New Brunswick Canada and they don't do that I ran a 99 s series with a 350 Cummins and a 8LL transmission till this January the truck worked great but the frame cracked and it is being parted out but most retired trucks go to auction hole.
UNCLEDOUG HERE BACK IN 1996 I BOUGHT 3 4 WHEEL DRIVE IH'S FROM THE ASHEVILLE N.C. AIRPORT AND ME AND MY FRIENDS USED THEM TO PUSH SNOW IN BOONE N.C. FOR YEARS WE ALL DID WELL FOR 18 YEARS !!! BUT THE GOV JUST HAS TO SCREW UP A GOOD BUY AND CUT UP GOOD TRUCKS !!!
"we need to replace vehicles every 3 years for emission improvement of 0.3% per generation"-ecology 101. rare earth metals and resources? f that we are watermelons-green on the outside, misanthropic communists on the inside
Your rite our tax dollars so they could care less just like big government. I could tell story's when I was in the u.s.navy of the waste I shipped to a marine base in el toro. California called d.r.m.o. I k ow the place like the back of my hand
Out here in Utah state, county, city run fairly modern equipment and sell them as is and use the money to fund new equipment. Good deal for government and buyer. They sell all types of vehicles from cars on up
The handout culture is huge on all levels of government. Exercise your “need” by finding a way to spend *all* the money you’re given, even if you have to waste it, and your physical assets. Otherwise you won’t get as much the next time the budgets are dolled out.
I don't understand the reason for cutting the frames but as I know a mechanic from one of the main barns that hold the auctions I am going to ask him. I know the first one shown cut was a '04. The salt truck was a '07. The first 2 numbers on the door is the year of the truck. I know for fact as my Dad ran a '64 Galion grader for NYSDOT.
Really sad, saw some of these at a local Dot auction and they are un-fixable. Not only do they cut the frames, but they are un-repairable titles AND they use an air hammer to put holes in the engine and transmission
There are still plenty of other NYSDOT trucks that are older than some of the ones seen in this video that were 2004's. I've seen some that are 1998 IH 4900's around here.
This is backwards, do people not realize the immense amount of carbon needed to just produce a vehicle?!? Why! THis is infuriating because it would be 100% better to just leave these trucks running and keep them till they die!
As I don't know how to edit here goes, the trucks were cut to be able to get federal government money. As of 11/20/18 they are still in the same spot as the video shows. Good chance they were decommissioned as they hit 'end of life expediency'.
99% of the stuff at state auctions has D-stroyed frames, crap corroded and broken and missing. Salt ain't metal's friend, and when it's quitting time, ain't no one got time for washing taxpayers truck. They would be impossible to get to pass inspection and working on big trucks is way more $$$ than pickups. Out of 200 trucks at the PA sale in Harrisburg, only a few small ones were not genuinely trash, or some of the Macks showed much shortened life span and were in very rough shape. The loaders, steers and chippers and trailers were all VERY rough, not worth it even if you have time to fix stuff, unless you are really up a creek $ stay away
What the heck, you actually get to save none compliant trucks, out here the government make them send them to a state registered crusher recycling yard, and if the state agency wants new vehicles or grants, they have to crush em, , so at least you get to get the ol parts and can ♻️ them , kool nice 👍 thanks buddy BigAl California.
I think they should donate these dump truck to poor farmers they are the backbone of our food industry we should support the Farmers as they are not rich these could go to farm use only.
A small business owner would die to have one of those late model trucks
None of those are as good as you think they are.
@@nodak81
"None of those are as good as you think they are."
The ones in the first minute of the video look to be late model (video creator stated 2008). I assure you a small business owner could put those trucks to work even if they needed some $$$ put into them to get them up to snuff. The would more than likely be replacing a 20-25 year old truck with these if they werent destroyed.
Hell yeah thatd be Perfect for construction. I can throw all my tools in there and tow my bobcat without abusing my truck too much lol
m ph no they wouldn’t XD
m ph literally did you not see the first three trucks handing a broken axial?
With our military trucks, the same vehicle purchased by civilians, go to auction when repairs exceed a percentage of the original price. So you could have a truck with a new engine that now needs a tail light, and won't get repaired.
Engine oil change cycles was based on mileage, not engine run time. Our flight line trucks ran 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and rarely exceeded 15 mph. By the time we hit the 3000 mile oil change, the oil was like molasses.
Robert Heinkel
I work for the GA Agri Expo authority and we drive the wheels off of our vehicles. But my security pickup is just like you said with oil changes, by mileage not run time. And being a early model F150 it has problems lubricating the cam/valves especially since half the time it’s running its idle, and the thick oil doesn’t help that problem
Reminds me of “cash for clunkers”. Let’s destroy completely useable, affordable vehicles that don’t meet our standards.
All they are doing is fudging the market and making it harder on people. Those cash for clunkers car have a market from build/first owner all the way up to the last owner and scrap yard. Throw in a monkey wrench like cash for clunkers and you are altering the transportation industry.
We still have something like this in the UK. Its called the "Scrappage scheme".
"Let’s destroy completely usable, affordable vehicles that don’t meet our standards.
"
Cash for clunkers killed the used car market still to this day because a lot of first time car buyers or people with low income or a young driver just got his or her drivers license have less inventory to choose from new teenage drivers don’t need a chevy Camaro,Ford Mustang,Dodge challenger/charger or any type of fast speed car a used Ford Crown Victoria or Chevy Caprice or Honda Civic/Accord or other vehicles like these will do just fine.
press f for all the GMC Syclones and Typhoons, as well as other sport vehicles, and possibly even vintage cars that met their untimely end due to that hideously wasteful government program.
F
If somebody was dumb or smart enough to scrap a typhoon or cyclone then the car deserved to die. A lot of these govt vehicles are crap. They are abused, a lot of times the "mechanics" working on them do the very least to keep them running. I work with the county and they scrap million dollar machines that another company buys and puts to work sometimes at a huge cost. I don't know about you but I wouldn't buy a 10 year old plow truck.
NYS wasting the tax payers dollars
*wasting printed toilet paper based on debt
I wouldn't consider it wasting at least they are auctioning them off. Out here once it's time to reup in my small town that I work for, which is usually every 10 yrs. They trade them in for next to nothing for the new fleet to come.
The state will get a real market value for the trucks, as for the ones that got cut up, 100% agree completely stupid and will not yield the environmental benefits, they hope for, as they will be parted out to keep trucks just like them on the road longer . The real government waist you will find at the local level, were items are bought just to auction or completely re-built , to sell to some one "in the know" You know advertised in the lowest circulating newspaper as far away as legal possible.. and then if anyone shows up, its get even sketcher
eric wsmith you do realize how nys "auctions" work, don't you ? The vehicles are all bid $1 for by friends/business partners of the Cocksuckercuomo regime. The two with the cut frames are the only ones that will actually be auctioned.
@@ROTAXD --Yes, I know how a auction works,,,, and I 100% guarantee no one from the "Cocksuckercuomo regime." are bidding on any old state trucks, That is so fucking small potatoes for their corruption its laughable and makes you sound like a crack pot.
I don't really want to get into a political debate but I'm a libertarian conservative former Republican I am a hardcore proponent of small Government This is a perfect example of why government needs to be limited this is a good example of the waste in government and it also shows how ridiculous the diesel emissions law's are!
@eat me nobody breeds trucks. They manufacture them. Big difference. And any emissions advantage of destroying an old diesel are quickly exceeded by the environmental impact of manufacturing the new diesel that will take it's place.
Jim Bartosevich,
Shhh, don't upset the gender snowflakes. Truck Lives Matter, remember? Oh wait, not when they're aborted! XDDD
First of all @eat me , diesels put out 50% less emissions then gasoline. Educate yourself before you make an ediot out of yourself.
NY needs to get rid of Cuomo and his criminals.
And there you go@eat me. Willing to prove to me that you are an ediot. I thank you for your honesty.
That 10 Wheeler Mack with the double wings on it would be a nice score!! 👍
Just weld the frame up good and bolt a splice over the welded area say 4 to 6 ft each way of the weld seam and it should be good
That would make sense! Can't have any of that in "Da Gubment"!
Sure... But you need to get it out of there first and tow the two parts to somewhere someone can do that and that wont be cheap. Its probably cheaper to buy a whole one with a bad engine or something and use the cut ones for parts
@jason9022 Why?
@jason9022 They probably say that cuz they want you to buy a new frame or covering them selfs if your weld sux and the truck folds in two at 70mph killing a family of 6 or something
@@Leofred2000 You can weld the frame. Whether it'll pass the standards required for trucks on the road, questionable. Would need entire frame swaps
How much "emissions" are created when you build a new truck rather than fully use an old truck?????
If it is PZEV compliant vehicle the answer is none.
ffjsb That's a great point!
@@EthosAtheos - I don't think you understand the question.
Ethos CLEARLY didn't understand the question, and doesn't know that the energy that PZEV's use has pollution attached to it.
I was making fun of the question. Apparently my joke wasn't funny. The question of what will emit more an existing vehicle or making a whole new vehicle isn't really the right question.
3:07 I've never seen a plow truck hooked up like that. That is freakin awesome as hell and looks like it really gets the job done. It's a crying shame stuff like this goes to waste rather than just fixing what the problem is and getting a few more years in on it. I know people who drive the same car for YEARS til they drive it into the ground.
Whoever is responsible for this needs to be fired and prosecuted for criminal waste of our money.
Somehow it doesn't surprise me that it's New York, beautiful state, a lot of wonderful people, and the worst state government in the nation.
Its new york city I wish someone would nuke that trash pile out of this state....
Matt Lane I’m from Western New York. I wish NYC was its own district, absolutely can’t stand how the NYC area essentially screws the rest of the state over.
No it’s not maybe the second worse state the number one worse state is California it in a state of bankruptcy in some way or another the constant wildfires they have increases its cost of running the state that it exceeds its budget year after year when wildfires are are at their worst.
@@rustybeatty6567 They both suck, and it's because of their governments.
I live in Buffalo ,N.Y. And fix the trucks that are still good and the waste of money is ridiculous and it should come out of Governor Cumos pockect.
Back in the 80's I knew somebody that owned an old state highway crew cab PU truck. It was slow. The gearing was meant for towing equipment not for speed. It was getting below 10 MPG. It was loud inside.
As a small business owner, I’d still love to have one of those trucks. I’d get the frame repaired. I’ve had a single axle semi stretched for a 20yd bed on the back.
I do believe I would've tried for one of the late model crew cabs! If the frame was only cut in one spot, a good shop should be able to repair it pretty reasonably! After that, whatever you wanted to do with it!
SOME of those trucks were ready for the scrapper...but the ones at the start of the vid were clearly still in good shape...typical government... it's always easiest to waste OTHER peoples money
I hope Trump kicks these idiots into the unemployment lines!!! He needs to eliminate the unions also!!!! There is no way to have limited criminality in government; the criminals just take over!!!!
@@garybulwinkle82 You want to remove criminals from government? Let's start from the top and get the guy that refuses to pay the people that work for him out of there. Or his daughter that used her personal email just just Clinton did.
@@Roushfan5 Ivanka using a personal email is not the same as what Clinton did. Clinton had her own server running in her house, Ivanka just used a personal email account and it is unclear if those emails involved classified materials. Meaning that records of those emails are still on another server and could be re-looked at to determine if it involved classified material or not. Unlike with Hillary, where the emails did involve classified information and once caught she had her servers and other devices destroyed. Kind of a big difference here.
Your so right about the government when it cones to grants & destroying perfect equipment, I saw a video recently which is the same with school buses. These trucks not in bad shape at all. Thank you for sharing!
I worked for the thruway authority at the exit 22 yard where the auctions for all thruway equip was sold,you had to make it sound like it didn't run or missing parts,or non runner just to cover your ass in case it broke on the way home,and this made buyers tow it away most of the time.
Don't really understand that. So what if it breaks on the way home? At any auction, everything is sold "as is, where is"
New York State Bureau of Spending Money and Cutting up Decent Trucks
it's abused junked
it's abused junk
I worked on a fishing trawler in the UK which was decommissioned. The huge trawler was lifted out the water and a government minister, complete with suit, hard hat and clip board was ticking off each part is it was destroyed on the fishing trawler. Only a few select items could be sold on - the prop shaft (without propeller), a radar unit on top of the cabin and the glass from the cabin. Everything else had to be destroyed by the waiting breakers. It was madness.
such a shame to cut up good trucks for emissions credits, the manufacturing process of the new trucks has to produce as much emissions. as those trucks would have produced for the rest of there life
municipal trucks are abused like hell , better off buying new than to rebuild them
+I Am Sekou yes
Ezrider92356
They’re probably made outside of the US
+Chump Johnson new york state uses tons of salt and that's the result from it
@@danh2134 you mean you somehow missed the obvious torch cut?
even in a high salt abusive enviroment those frames are a 30 year expected "minimum" lifespan chunk of steel that come fully anti rust coated, they wouldn't pass DOT standards for road use otherwise.
So when they need new crew men they cut there legs of?????
don't give em ideas....
I mean the mob did...
Dont eat the chili....you might not meet NY's emission standards.
"missing axle" is probable an axle that they broke and is not worth replacing due to the value of the truck. but it could be a cheap easy fix for someone
That 94 was a beauty, I love old internationals
That 94 crew cab was cool.
Those internationals were pre maxxforce so 05-07. They were cut because they didn"t have DPFs. You know, to satisfy the tree huggers and what not..
The first two numbers on the plate are the year of the vehicle so those trucks that were cut in half were 04's and 05's not that I'm justifying cutting up perfectly good trucks. They don't just cut them in half either they are required to cut a hole in the engine block so that non emissions engine can never harm the environment again....... cash for clunkers of big rigs
I was gonna say , engine and tranny make it still worth it. Not with a hole tho
I love the old international flat bed truck hell I'd daily drive that bastard
I worked for the State where I live, I’ve never seen more waste, corruption and flat out arrogance in upper mgmt
It's funny how governments getting new shit every few years whilst my high school still uses 80s Ford econoline diesels.
WOW! How stupid to cut up perfectly fine International DOT truck's just because of emissions?! Definitely a small town or a business could definitely use those 10 year old truck's! Again how stupid of the government! But no one ever said that the government was smart!
Republicans plans to sell new trucks by cutting up perfectly good used trucks and the new trucks will face the same fate when they don't meet "emissions" standards but hey ... Global warming is not a real thing ? Right ? So why ?
nice video love the great footage new York great home
The bulldog on that mack is worth a few bucks....i am suprised it wasnt swiped
Jack them up weld the frame go to work .
That's illegal, DOT would shut you down immediately. Only thing you could do would be to replace the frame completely.
@@evinsteven13 Could say you did lol
Nolan yoyo no you can’t. DOT does random on road inspections. They would notice that crap.
@@evinsteven13 You could make the repair look factory
@@fluke196c Just look up DOT roadside inspection. I drive rolloff trucks for my friends business when I'm not busy, and I've been pulled over, and ticketed before. And they seriously scour every inch of the vehicle, they'll even crawl under it and inspect brake lines, tires, everything.
In PA. We have trucks over 20 yrs. Intl bounce yo around like a moon bounce though.
.... The trucks that are cut up received a $10,000 credit from the Feds for each truck that was cut in half. Much less than what they would get in the auction. The "Defects" that are listed so they do have a reason to sell them off. In some cases there is actually nothing wrong with the trucks, Just age and/or mileage. The last Mack in your video was actually a 10 wheel 5th wheel Low Boy tractor with a modified sander body resting on the 5th wheel.
Riverhead town has some old tricks in their fleet. Pretty cool seeing them around.
I don't feel bad about a single one of the 6.0 liter 4200 time bombs, but any 466 truck cut up is a sin.
As someone that works for the government. Our trucks get old before they break down.
We have big rigs with less miles that my cars. We have a couple big rig 18 wheelers that are 10+ years old and only have 11,xxx miles on them....
The WAR on diesel reaches INSANITY.
Actually the truck is a 2004 model. The state dot who my father worked for the first 2 digits are the yr that the truck was used so it’s a 2004 freight liner not a 2008. If it was it Would be 08 with the rest of the numbers. That’s how the state marks some of the vehicles.
State governments are so wasteful sometimes.
It is a jobs program like Cash for clunkers was. Destroy stuff so it creates jobs via the "broken window" theory of economics.
This must be in upstate N.Y. cause i live up here and this is a seasonal occurrence
How sick-so many destitute countries was be thrilled to have those trucks.So sick- school furniture,old fire engines,ambulances could be given to less fortunate countries.
Robert Walton fuck that lol
No wonder N.Y. State is broke with wasting money like that.
I’d love one for me in the UK, they would be brilliant
New York State. "Nuff said.
At least one of the "single" axle trucks was actually a "tandem". They took one axle out and left one so they could move it. You could see the mounting points on the frame for the front axle.
As an ex government employee you would be amazed at what they made me bury. Plows, dump beds, wood chippers, ovens, pallets of 3/4" socket kits, engines, all buried in LNP...
That's a great truck! The 1st international very dependable and cheap to work on!
What makes no sense they'd rather cut up the cleaner 2008 Internationals then to cut the old rusted 2000 4700 Internationals
God damn, those bent frames were a shame, but those cabs looked gorgeous, I love seeing them on the road. They look bad ass, imo
They normally on a 5 year cycle. After 5 years they are still going but they will get new ones.
I worked for NYS for 3 years I never heard of that or seen that trucks were sold as is all they did was spray paint over the stickers and numbers And all large dump trucks (Mack and international) from the year 13 and up are automatics the 13s have a clutch and push pads the rest are fully automatic
I can't believe they are forced to cut them I work for DOT here in New Brunswick Canada and they don't do that I ran a 99 s series with a 350 Cummins and a 8LL transmission till this January the truck worked great but the frame cracked and it is being parted out but most retired trucks go to auction hole.
The first two numbers on the state dot trucks are the year of the vehicle.
In all state trucks the first two numbers on the door are the year of the truck
Not even worked in yet..wish i could get my hands on them..im still driving my 1990
UNCLEDOUG HERE BACK IN 1996 I BOUGHT 3 4 WHEEL DRIVE IH'S FROM THE ASHEVILLE N.C. AIRPORT AND ME AND MY FRIENDS USED THEM TO PUSH SNOW IN BOONE N.C. FOR YEARS WE ALL DID WELL FOR 18 YEARS !!! BUT THE GOV JUST HAS TO SCREW UP A GOOD BUY AND CUT UP GOOD TRUCKS !!!
"we need to replace vehicles every 3 years for emission improvement of 0.3% per generation"-ecology 101. rare earth metals and resources? f that we are watermelons-green on the outside, misanthropic communists on the inside
Amazing how wasteful they are with our tax money I could of used one of those trucks instead they want to tax is and screw us.
Your rite our tax dollars so they could care less just like big government. I could tell story's when I was in the u.s.navy of the waste I shipped to a marine base in el toro. California called d.r.m.o. I k ow the place like the back of my hand
Out here in Utah state, county, city run fairly modern equipment and sell them as is and use the
money to fund new equipment. Good deal for government and buyer. They sell all types of vehicles from cars on up
All the smaller forms of government in NYS do that too.
The handout culture is huge on all levels of government. Exercise your “need” by finding a way to spend *all* the money you’re given, even if you have to waste it, and your physical assets. Otherwise you won’t get as much the next time the budgets are dolled out.
Be interesting to see what Diesel Brother's would do to some of them rigs
I don't understand the reason for cutting the frames but as I know a mechanic from one of the main barns that hold the auctions I am going to ask him. I know the first one shown cut was a '04. The salt truck was a '07. The first 2 numbers on the door is the year of the truck. I know for fact as my Dad ran a '64 Galion grader for NYSDOT.
Really sad, saw some of these at a local Dot auction and they are un-fixable. Not only do they cut the frames, but they are un-repairable titles AND they use an air hammer to put holes in the engine and transmission
There are still plenty of other NYSDOT trucks that are older than some of the ones seen in this video that were 2004's. I've seen some that are 1998 IH 4900's around here.
This is backwards, do people not realize the immense amount of carbon needed to just produce a vehicle?!? Why! THis is infuriating because it would be 100% better to just leave these trucks running and keep them till they die!
Why do they break the middle of the trucks? Seriously? They're in perfect condition! I betcha all of these will eventually end up on Copart some day.
You know your trucks lol
That 94 would be perfect for a camper puller
As a NY State resident I find it outrageous that they cut those trucks in half!
Thanks man, very informative.
The frame rails are simple C channel. Buy it and install new C Channel frame rails
Runs great the truck lowrider edition
These would be great to send down to Mexico. I know a few people that would love to use these until they die.
Bullshit emission credits
Pennsylvania does this too
nice trucks anything from 2007 int freightliner pete or ken are good trucks just gotta take care of em
You told me to change to all Pakastani, I change to all Pkastani, still nobody come. You are veddy veddy bad man !
Send them to nova Scotia! There's no emissions here
Cut frame, weld back together. I would buy any one of the international crew cabs
I agree. Ain't nothing that some frame channel and a few fish plates and a buttload of welding rod and a few handfuls of grade 10 bolts cant fix
@@klosnoski too bad they can't be used commercialy anymore tons of business would be over these
We had the Crew cab Version for a firetruck in GA
Do you know what the final hammer price was on the first plow truck with the wings went for?
Would anyone advise not driving one of those crew cab flat beds as a daily? Cuz I want one.
Hell yeah
Super cool. Subbed.
As I don't know how to edit here goes, the trucks were cut to be able to get federal government money.
As of 11/20/18 they are still in the same spot as the video shows. Good chance they were decommissioned as they hit 'end of life expediency'.
99% of the stuff at state auctions has D-stroyed frames, crap corroded and broken and missing. Salt ain't metal's friend, and when it's quitting time, ain't no one got time for washing taxpayers truck. They would be impossible to get to pass inspection and working on big trucks is way more $$$ than pickups. Out of 200 trucks at the PA sale in Harrisburg, only a few small ones were not genuinely trash, or some of the Macks showed much shortened life span and were in very rough shape. The loaders, steers and chippers and trailers were all VERY rough, not worth it even if you have time to fix stuff, unless you are really up a creek $ stay away
It's called work hours. Trucks are put out of service based on engine hours. Not mileage.
Ladies and Gentlemen.... Welcome to New York State!
What the heck, you actually get to save none compliant trucks, out here the government make them send them to a state registered crusher recycling yard, and if the state agency wants new vehicles or grants, they have to crush em, , so at least you get to get the ol parts and can ♻️ them , kool nice 👍 thanks buddy BigAl California.
School busses we have to cut a hole in the engine block to get the government grants for new busses.
WOW nice trucks for a start up company
The axle slides out from the hub. The banjo stays where it is.
The EPA needs to be reined in and those trucks are a prime example of why.
Now they cut a hole into the engine block. Great waste of money.
great video
I need one of them dump bodys now
I think they should donate these dump truck to poor farmers they are the backbone of our food industry we should support the Farmers as they are not rich these could go to farm use only.
That's crazy , I woulda bought the 94 crew cab long as it runs and drives
Do you guys ever buy anything you view at auction? Love to see what purchases you have made. I love your Channel.