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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • Antrim-based Rule of Crumb offers a wide range of gluten-free items through wholesalers, retail outlets, and its delivery service. Business duo Colum McLornan and Claire Hunter are seeking £60,000 in return for a 15% equity stake but what happens if the offer on the table isn't good enough?
    An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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  • @DragonsDenGlobal
    @DragonsDenGlobal  3 роки тому +17

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    • @donramanayake1505
      @donramanayake1505 2 роки тому +6

      If the show is about rich people due to their money abusing contestants, I'd rather not watch. This is disgusting - Deborah didn't even deign to acknowledge the apology. Even when it was proffered after all the deals were done and the show had ended. Touker owns multiple businesses, but in an effort to show that the contestant cannot own more than one, portrays a man who runs hotel as lazy. Nick has no idea what he's talking about in relation to a medical disorder, is corrected, and is so insecure about his intelligence that he calls a piece of bread rank, while he continues eating it :). Money does not buy class.

  • @IncomeBoost42
    @IncomeBoost42 3 роки тому +1096

    Touker was upset with remote work as he couldn't sell his office space.

    • @aziris7257
      @aziris7257 2 роки тому +18

      Frankly, if an investor offered an office space on the upscale part of manhattan free of rent for 12 months, I would've refused too. Felt like I'm being trapped to spend money on an office space I don't need. Sure, the first 12 months would be free, but what after that? If I move out, what about my kliens who are already used to that location? If I move out, would that offend Touker, my biggest supporter?

    • @pyramidschema8668
      @pyramidschema8668 2 роки тому +15

      @@aziris7257 I agree, you never want your landlord to own 30% of your company.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 роки тому +1

      Literally.

    • @chrisbevis7725
      @chrisbevis7725 2 роки тому +1

      Haha yeah that's it. But I find him hilarious!

    • @MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop
      @MakingEndsMeet_JudysStopNShop Рік тому +2

      😂😂

  • @exhibitD79
    @exhibitD79 2 роки тому +1030

    Every time Touker says ''I'm out'' he immediately looks at the other Dragons for validation of his performance.

    • @hommefataltaemin
      @hommefataltaemin 2 роки тому +114

      I’ve noticed this as well! He’s a weird dude. He always looks around smugly and if any dragon ever says even the smallest thing against him, he looks flabbergasted 😂

    • @Bradderz407
      @Bradderz407 2 роки тому +90

      Could be the editing, a lot goes on we don’t see

    • @onlyme219
      @onlyme219 2 роки тому +8

      With a wink

    • @lols5509
      @lols5509 2 роки тому +18

      I agree he is very SMUG ! He builds there confidence an puts them down !

    • @sew_gal7340
      @sew_gal7340 2 роки тому +35

      Touker is very very stereotypical Asian/Arab uncle, it's an eastern thing...i know exactly what hes thinking and why he does what he does because i grew up in a huge family with many uncles and they all act like that. It's very hilarious at times but it is indeed an ego/arrogant thing but all in good fun and they are all good people at heart. They just have a thing they wear on their sleeves and express themselves that way, its very much cultural just like politeness is a cultural british thing

  • @thenamesgould
    @thenamesgould 3 роки тому +1777

    Nick Jenkins: "That is absolutely horrible!" (Continues eating)

  • @BirthOfAnEmceeTV
    @BirthOfAnEmceeTV 3 роки тому +377

    Nick "This bread is horrible, absolutely horrible".
    Editor then cuts in to make it look like he eats more 🤔🤣🤣

  • @one4all126
    @one4all126 3 роки тому +469

    Entrepreneur: It can be run [remotely] from anywhere..
    Touker: Oh really?!
    Me 2021: They have great foresight...

    • @commanderkeen3787
      @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +39

      Touker doesn't get out of bed for remote run businesses

    • @justanotherviewer4821
      @justanotherviewer4821 3 роки тому +28

      @@commanderkeen3787 He has office space available...

    • @tobiasgoldman
      @tobiasgoldman 3 роки тому +11

      Exactly, and what is he himself doing with all of. The businesses he is invested in? Hands-on yeah?

    • @basharstats4482
      @basharstats4482 3 роки тому +12

      @@tobiasgoldman he is an angel investor who invests in ppl who commits 100% of their time in managing the business he is investing. plus he has a very good management team who collaborates with the entrepreneurs he invests in. there is a huge difference between angel investors and small entrepreneurs. two very different business models.
      Also Angel Investors r just like banks. But banks invest in businesses while angel investors invest in people.

    • @EnglishLawyer
      @EnglishLawyer 3 роки тому +2

      @@commanderkeen3787 I doubt if he even gets out of bed other than to take a leak! Lol

  • @Andenvan
    @Andenvan 3 роки тому +352

    Touker is completely off sides here. He is involved in multiple businesses yet rants at these two entrepreneurs for having just two businesses.

    • @yebo-gogo
      @yebo-gogo Рік тому +14

      True. These dragons are sat there trying to add more businesses to their heaving portfolios, yet tell entrepreneurs they can't run two businesses at the same time

    • @animefan7424
      @animefan7424 Рік тому +14

      These have no managers to run it when they are away

    • @random-nz7dy
      @random-nz7dy Рік тому +8

      He's not upset that they have two businesses. His issue is that they don't have anybody to manage the current business in person when they are away.
      And running a business if you're going to be remote a lot is very challenging

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 11 місяців тому +7

      Uhhh what? You realise the two parties are completely opposite sides of the situation? They are asking for Touker's money, not the other way around. Touker wants to know that his money will be put to good use by people who are completely dedicated to the business. Who cares if Touker has other businesses? He's the one offering the money.

    • @feonor26
      @feonor26 10 місяців тому +2

      The difference is they want Touker's money. Touker is using his own money on his own businesses.

  • @dominicmm6
    @dominicmm6 3 роки тому +948

    I think Sarah’s hesitancy is the real reason why Deborah swayed

    • @SirPeterlll
      @SirPeterlll 3 роки тому +106

      Could be, Debbie gained -1 respect point. Horrible move from her, she knew what the lady meant!

    • @pepethunder
      @pepethunder 3 роки тому +68

      @@SirPeterlll i understand the intent, but at the same time you have to understand that the lady made a mistake in directly using Deborah to persuade Sarah. They should have instead dealt with her without involving the other, but rather ask how they can sweaten the deal and if Deborah is still interested and feels threatened, THEN you can suggest the cooperation. Instead they treated Deborah as leverage and even if it is not the intent, it is 100% what they did. May have soured Deborah, add whatever reservations she had, it seems she figured it was best for them to not work together.

    • @deborahpeters1597
      @deborahpeters1597 3 роки тому +20

      @@SirPeterlll Did you say Debbie don't let Deborah Meaden hear you say that,she gets very offended lol!!!🤣

    • @drivepals9678
      @drivepals9678 3 роки тому +36

      Deborah freaked out when she heard Sarah saying the foodie in her is saying “no, don’t do it”😒

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 3 роки тому +39

      It felt as though Deborah was making an excuse to get out of a wrong decision, that she never expected her offer to be taken up.

  • @msc8090
    @msc8090 3 роки тому +707

    What just happened in that episode?😳
    - super polite Nick slams their food
    - the leader Peter Jones hardly saying anything
    - Touker complaining about another company
    - Deborah throwing a tantrum
    Was really disappointed in them. Only one that was somewhat decent was Sarah, even though I really didn't like how she backed Deborah's weird behaviour at the end.

    • @skinnymac2411
      @skinnymac2411 3 роки тому +30

      This is a perfect synopsis of what I thought too! And even then I think Sarah was a bit rude to say well guys I don’t really want to invest but I might and then sit their contemplating as they stand there awkwardly.. she wouldn’t be a passionate investor at that point

    • @the2dudes1
      @the2dudes1 3 роки тому +37

      Yeah wtf was wrong with Deborah in this episode. Unbelievably immature

    • @AdamBechtol
      @AdamBechtol 3 роки тому +1

      mmm

    • @hellodave4984
      @hellodave4984 3 роки тому +22

      They got ripped apart for no reason.

    • @imrank9282
      @imrank9282 3 роки тому +7

      I don't think Sarah backed it, she just knew exactly what Deborah was gonna say, that's why she's worried they said that

  • @Raylzway
    @Raylzway 3 роки тому +763

    Deborah regretted making her offer and used it as a way out. Thought her tantrum was pretty rude.

    • @fefeeffefeff8237
      @fefeeffefeff8237 3 роки тому +30

      weird statement from Deborah, that's the whole point of the show, lost a lot of respect.
      she wants people to take the first offer given and not listen to any other dragon?

    • @PhilosophyofElivagar
      @PhilosophyofElivagar 3 роки тому +50

      ​@@fefeeffefeff8237 @Raylz That wasn't the case, it was because the entrepreneur was using Deborah as leverage to get Sarah interested in the deal, it was disrespectful af. Don't get me wrong, there has been times when Deb and Peter have both had tantrums at listening to other offers but this was not that.

    • @neonwired4978
      @neonwired4978 3 роки тому +18

      @@PhilosophyofElivagar and then she tried to claim she didn't intend it which was just a complete lie as it was pretty clear what she was saying.

    • @PhilosophyofElivagar
      @PhilosophyofElivagar 3 роки тому +9

      @@neonwired4978 exactly, lot of people missing the point

    • @khalidazhar101
      @khalidazhar101 3 роки тому

      Exactly

  • @MrMFoxd
    @MrMFoxd 3 роки тому +1214

    Deborah definitely changed her mind at the last minute and came up with her rant about sharing just to get out of the offer

    • @neonwired4978
      @neonwired4978 3 роки тому +65

      not really, they were pretty disrespectful

    • @qataribananahamock1495
      @qataribananahamock1495 3 роки тому +82

      Not true, I think she just witnessed these 2 taking her offer too lightly despite others aren’t as interested as her. I bet she felt if she went along she will pay and work for them. They’re not appreciative of Deborah enough is all.

    • @susanwaugh3885
      @susanwaugh3885 3 роки тому +79

      She just didn’t like the fact that they were asking Sarah, the food expert, to get on board too. She got the hump at not being solely the dragon they wanted. Typical of Deborah of course, always has to be no 1 and centre of attention.

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 роки тому +63

      Their question was perfectly reasonable. They were entitled to look at all the possibilities - just Deborah or a partnership.

    • @tgchikukwa6947
      @tgchikukwa6947 3 роки тому +27

      @@roberthutchins4297 But Sarah had not made an offer to them

  • @knuckalar
    @knuckalar 3 роки тому +815

    Deborah is usually one of the better dragons but acted like a spoilt child in this

    • @sheslying7117
      @sheslying7117 3 роки тому +53

      That's a standard move for her

    • @olyjfitness
      @olyjfitness 3 роки тому +37

      They all have huge egos which is strange for seeming business people you wd think they see opportunities not personal issues

    • @aftabmohammedify
      @aftabmohammedify 3 роки тому +43

      Oh so poor from Deborah . The lady certainly didn't mean that. I feel sorry for her.

    • @MrZeldion
      @MrZeldion 3 роки тому +30

      Honestly Deborah should have just said she had changed her mind rather than pin the blame on a very reasonable and sensible suggestion. Poor woman I hope she doesn't feel guilt

    • @ghamandlupin
      @ghamandlupin 3 роки тому +34

      No she didn't. It's thousands of pounds of her own money ffs. You'd act the same.

  • @ranjivdussoye877
    @ranjivdussoye877 3 роки тому +410

    Clearly deborah seized an opportunity to withdraw her offer after she realised it wouldn’t be a good offer

    • @Kris_Aalst
      @Kris_Aalst 3 роки тому +17

      Not true. The deals made on camera are not binding at all, so she could have easily backed out at the real negotiations that start after the show.

    • @gerbil61
      @gerbil61 3 роки тому +4

      That was not clear to me.

    • @Kris_Aalst
      @Kris_Aalst 3 роки тому +8

      @@ben2749 All caps means I sort of know what type of person I'm dealing with here, so I'll go easy on you. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but what I said is the truth. The real negotations happen after the show is taped, and more often than not no actual deal is made. You can find out for yourself very easily by googling something like 'dragons den deals binding or not'. You'll get dozens of results that confirm what I said. I also refer to the website www.tigermobiles.com/dragons-den/ which gathers information about whether or not deals made on camera actually went through afterwards. I warn you though, you're in for a huge disappointment.

    • @lordhiten
      @lordhiten 3 роки тому +2

      @@Kris_Aalst Much like Deborah, you are also equally well versed at reading someone & deciding how to handle the conversation by keen observation. Well done mate!

    • @MindSetReset
      @MindSetReset 3 роки тому

      I think Deborah only likes to invest with Peter and no of the otbets🤔

  • @boneyarsebogman
    @boneyarsebogman 3 роки тому +734

    Just a note on celiac disease: Nick was way off the mark. If you actually have a gluten intolerance, like celiac disease, then it's not just that the food has to be gluten free - it can't touch any counters or surfaces that had anything containing gluten in them. Cross contamination is a huge deal for these people and many restaurant kitchens can't accommodate those kind of issues. It's changing, but Nick is still wrong.

    • @seanA416
      @seanA416 2 роки тому +22

      I agree 100% but it is still such a niche market with only about 1% of the population suffering from celiac disease.

    • @libraryofpangea7018
      @libraryofpangea7018 2 роки тому +28

      @@seanA416
      1% of 68 million, is just the floor. With the ceiling being set by people without celiacs but who also eat gluten free. In an under served market, with a high potential of repeatable sales.
      Percentages are always relative to context, 1 percent can actually be alot.
      And that's before looking at growth options in foreign sales.
      Deb is just sensitive to ego stings, but she was right about their investment potential.

    • @Calax93
      @Calax93 2 роки тому +15

      I've worked in kitchens were we've had gluten free orders. It is this not that hard. We change gloves do a wipe down and make it seepereately from the rest of the food. There is literally a button when taking orders and this process happens automatically

    • @gothlymoor9472
      @gothlymoor9472 2 роки тому +52

      Yeah, I think Nick was confused that having celiac disease is not the same thing as preferring not to eat it. I found that a bit annoying cause I feel like he was so flippant with celiac disease and it’s not as simple as eat the naturally gluten free food. If it was only that simple 🤦‍♀️.

    • @flare90
      @flare90 2 роки тому +10

      It is a small market but Nick was wrong a lot. Also his point about health eating and gluten is uh yeah.

  • @icystrangers5482
    @icystrangers5482 3 роки тому +288

    THIS IS ABSOLUTELY RANK!!! said NIck Jenkins, stuffing his face with more roll.

  • @thenamesgould
    @thenamesgould 3 роки тому +1130

    Feel for this pair ... Touker with a random freakout about them taking a holiday and Deborah going berserk about a shared deal. What were the dragons on that day?!?!

    • @sammuddel7751
      @sammuddel7751 3 роки тому +47

      Definitely salty about summin!

    • @kevinprince89
      @kevinprince89 3 роки тому +224

      Touker especially, what was he on about? He's got several businesses too that are being run by managers while he sits here taking part in a TV show.
      He gets weirdly emotional sometimes

    • @ChewyPiano98
      @ChewyPiano98 3 роки тому +91

      @@kevinprince89 crazy part is, with how 2020 & 2021 have gone, we see that businesses can be run remotely 🤦‍♂️

    • @AntiMatter930
      @AntiMatter930 3 роки тому +21

      Northern Irish people have a weird effect on folk 😂

    • @Clamfaced
      @Clamfaced 3 роки тому +28

      Maybe it was the last pitch after a long day of filming or something.

  • @vampires18
    @vampires18 2 роки тому +263

    That poor woman is going to be haunted by Deborah saying that to her, thinking that she messed up everything for them when in fact Deborah was just being prickly. She did not need to treat these people like that. Sometimes you feel like the dragons are people and nice and then you get slapped with how detached they are because of their lifestyles.

    • @justno984
      @justno984 Рік тому +28

      You expected a millionaire to act like a decent human being?... I'm shocked at the fact that people still fall for their facades

    • @kushchanna2847
      @kushchanna2847 Рік тому

      True that

    • @jawaela
      @jawaela Рік тому +15

      @@justno984 It’s not that black and white… you’re the type of person to say people are either good or evil

    • @matthannigan78
      @matthannigan78 Рік тому +15

      I think that it was entirely appropriate. If she gained insight into the type of person she is working with and realizes that she cant work with someone like that, then Deborah should pull out. I’m glad that deborah did that.

    • @sh4rk559
      @sh4rk559 Рік тому

      Yeah she was tight for that

  • @Clamfaced
    @Clamfaced 3 роки тому +296

    Sarah sitting there awkwardly because I don't think she was even offended at the sharing thing and had no idea what Deborah's issue was.

    • @commanderkeen3787
      @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +45

      I think Sarah is scared of Deborah judging by her final comment

    • @basharstats4482
      @basharstats4482 3 роки тому +13

      no Sarah understood the point verh well. she literally said that's y she is not gonna invest. it meant it's gonna b a nightmare to work with them.. these dragons r super snart ppl we oftdn forget. it's all abt timing. the fact she asked for. three way joint venture even before Sarah made an offer meant these ppl r gonna b verh manipulative and always urgue to push their way which is gonna b a nightmare for the investors. had she waited until Sarah made an offer then they wud have walked away with a deal. might have bn even two dragons. in biz it's very important to kno wen t stop talking and wen to start talking. split second decisions

    • @TheBdylan23
      @TheBdylan23 3 роки тому +9

      @@basharstats4482 You are absolutely correct, on two separate occasions one of them spoke when they shouldn't have, that silence is crucial. Deborah was correct in spotting they weren't committed to her despite giving them leeway concerning their other businesses.

    • @Alg0rM0rtis
      @Alg0rM0rtis 3 роки тому +2

      @@basharstats4482 Good observation, I did not see that way

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 роки тому +1

      No, at the end she agreed with Deborah

  • @p.v.7269
    @p.v.7269 3 роки тому +839

    Deborah sure was acting like a child over here. It's their business and they have every right to ask if they can bring 2 dragons on board instead of one. Being THAT offended that she was asked to share with another dragon who's more qualified in that industry than she is, is just ridiculous. She's too damn old to be behaving like that.

    • @susanwaugh3885
      @susanwaugh3885 3 роки тому +75

      I couldn’t agree more and Sarah agreeing with Deborah just made me cringe. I’m like Sarah don’t agree with her, throw it back at her that she had the hump because madam wasn’t no 1, and clearly they had their sights firmly on Sarah with her experience and it pissed off Deborah. Can’t believe Sarah went out. What a gutless woman

    • @davidmellish3295
      @davidmellish3295 3 роки тому +71

      Yes but Sarah hadn't made an offer and they were trying to talk her into it when Deborah had already made an offer THAT was the problem.
      If they had both had made offers then asking them to go in together wouldn't have been a big problem.
      But cause Sarah hadn't made an offer and Deborah had,she felt like they weren't really interested in her as they were trying to get Sarah to make an offer when they already had one. She felt like they didn't really want her as the were concentrating on Sarah,basically saying' come on Sarah please offer we want you'
      If they had both offered then it would have been negotiations as normal.
      Playing them off against each other for better percentages or asking them to team up.
      This was a bit different as only Deborah had offered

    • @p.v.7269
      @p.v.7269 3 роки тому +27

      @@davidmellish3295 The issue is that Sarah had said she was hesitant but had decided she was still interested enough and was about to make an offer when the couple asked if they (she and Deb) could possibly team up. It isn't like Sarah said she's out and they tried to bargain to get her in anyway, she was moments away from making them an offer, but Deborah's childish entitled sensibilities got all triggered and she exploded at the audacity of somebody to want her and another dragon to team up. All Deborah had to do was say "No I'm not interested in sharing with another dragon, you get me by myself or you get nothing" which would have been fair. But she went on some nonsensical rant about how dare they even think about saying such a thing and even guilt tripped that poor lady into crying and apologizing even though she literally did nothing wrong and had nothing to apologize for. That was horrible and shameful and Deborah bullied these people out of the den, and I believe Sarah agreed with her only because she didn't want to get any of that temper tantrum directed at her.

    • @davidmellish3295
      @davidmellish3295 3 роки тому +24

      @@p.v.7269 that's not what she said,listen again Sarah HADN'T made an offer THAT'S the point,you CAN'T know the future NONE of us can. In your OPINION she was going to make an offer but she hadn't and that's what pissed Deborah off. She says it quite clearly that she doesn't like the fact that they are asking them to team up BEFORE Sarah has made an offer.
      I'm NOT saying I agree,I'm just saying that is what Deborah said

    • @p.v.7269
      @p.v.7269 3 роки тому +17

      @@davidmellish3295 I did listen again and my point still stands. Whether or not Sarah had made an offer is in fact actually NOT the point. The ACTUAL POINT is that Deborah got her panties in a massive twist over something she had no reason or right to get so offended about, blew a very tiny situation completely out of proportion and made the entrepreneurs who said nothing wrong and did nothing wrong cry and apologize and beg forgiveness. Sarah was debating on making an offer and was on the edge of doing so, but whether or not she had made an offer or was going to make one at all is irrelevant to the point and the main issue. The main issue is Deborah acted like a whiny entitled brat and threw a tantrum over nothing. I know she SAID she was upset over the fact that Sarah hadn't yet made an offer, but that is not the point, nor is it a justification for the way she behaved.

  • @sineadbradyfan2151
    @sineadbradyfan2151 3 роки тому +125

    This business lady was very lovely and encouraging, and Deborah was so unnecessarily mean to her. I usually like Deborah, but this was just rude on her part.

    • @OperaJH
      @OperaJH Рік тому

      That’s why I have never like Debra. She’s always mean under her false and glib exterior. She’s usually annoying if not outright vindictive.

  • @lewisdolan6990
    @lewisdolan6990 3 роки тому +221

    Toucan was just putting words into their mouths. Not once did they say they'd be sunning it up on holiday 🤔

    • @pauljames7333
      @pauljames7333 3 роки тому +55

      He does this quite frequently. He fabricates a reason not to like the business or the people so he can have a rant and angrily declare himself out with full dramatic effect; with the drama only happening in his mind 😆

    • @roberthutchins4297
      @roberthutchins4297 3 роки тому +1

      @@pauljames7333 But he´s the one I´d choose for my business,

    • @bubbleboybenni
      @bubbleboybenni 3 роки тому +4

      There's quite a lot cut out though isn't there? Like don't think things go for an hour or 2? So maybe some was edited out. I dunno.

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 3 роки тому +2

      Touker, unless you are a keyboard hero, looking to play on words, but sound like a held back child.

    • @lewisdolan6990
      @lewisdolan6990 3 роки тому +5

      @@HIOP0 have a day off.

  • @one4all126
    @one4all126 3 роки тому +322

    To have both Sarah and Deborah on board would have opened up the product to retailers, catering and the hospitality industry... totally understand where the lady entrepreneur was coming from when she was searching for a partnership between them... feel bad for her and totally get it.

    • @one4all126
      @one4all126 3 роки тому +13

      Sarah does bars, clubs and restaurants and a little hospitality...
      Deborah does leisure and hospitality...
      There would have been a good synergy between both of them to help grow that business in all the areas it needed to get into...
      The entrepreneur saw that, which was what she failed to/ didn't get a chance to get across...

    • @one4all126
      @one4all126 3 роки тому +15

      @@Ayomayo48583 Sarah was half in half out. Some people on the den usually say something extra to try and push the dragons to put in an offer. The entrepreneur was right with her tactic but said the wrong things to persuade Sarah.
      The entrepreneur also said she wanted them to 'share' the investment, but she said it at the wrong time and should have said it if both Sarah and Deborah had put in offers.

    • @one4all126
      @one4all126 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ayomayo48583 Let me know when more people agree with you than me on this comment thread (using the 'thumbs up') and then we can talk about who is talking nonsense...

    • @one4all126
      @one4all126 3 роки тому +2

      @@Ayomayo48583 I just pointed out a fact - something you appear to struggle with... take it whatever way you want.
      Fact that you resort to name calling shows how weak your arguments have been...

    • @one4all126
      @one4all126 3 роки тому +3

      @@Ayomayo48583 I'm sure somewhere out there in her own way Deborah appreciates you throwing your toys out the pram for her...

  • @saltypork101
    @saltypork101 2 роки тому +17

    "deskill your kitchen" - translation: provide your workers with no interesting tasks and no room to flex their creativity, and then use that as a twisted justification to pay them absolute peanuts.

    • @sexyhomeowner9345
      @sexyhomeowner9345 2 роки тому +5

      It also means less variety in menus between restaurants and pubs, the result of them not hiring chefs who use nuance when cooking.

  • @sequencerman5
    @sequencerman5 3 роки тому +142

    All the woman did, I believe, was to help Sarah, who couldn't get her thoughts together, to make a decision. There was NO ill intent on the woman's part and Deborah Meadon simply proved just what a cruel streak she possesses by allowing the woman to leave the den crushed.

    • @niksta007a
      @niksta007a Рік тому

      She's a psychopath

    • @streetfightingman4240
      @streetfightingman4240 Рік тому +6

      Yes I think she was just trying to make it a more tempting deal for both dragons (and obviously having seen the show before she knows they tend to share the deal happily) but if backfired. I think Deborah already may have had reservations about them for whatever reason, so maybe it was a way out to an extent.

    • @tonyttt31
      @tonyttt31 11 місяців тому +1

      Deborah, a cruel streak? Wow.

  • @Jasper-Holland
    @Jasper-Holland 3 роки тому +212

    Damn, the dragons were so harsh in this pitch

    • @litigioussociety4249
      @litigioussociety4249 3 роки тому +6

      Not really. They reasonably critiqued the business and products. Also, the lady definitely insulted Deborah by favoring Sarah.

    • @cjj6412
      @cjj6412 3 роки тому +12

      They realized these guys are doing the same thing the dragons are doing.
      Putting other people in charge and fcking off. You know how these dragons keep talking about their phenomenal teams. That's why the dragons couldn't take it. Touker acts like phones don't exist or that he is cutting his own fabric.
      there's a new thing called D2C which will is more lucrative than drop shipping and that's what these guys were doing. Dragons hate it because thats their turf, or they'd like it to be,

    • @lukebignell7846
      @lukebignell7846 3 роки тому +6

      @@litigioussociety4249 aren’t they allowed to have a favourite investor. It’s their business

    • @litigioussociety4249
      @litigioussociety4249 3 роки тому

      @@lukebignell7846 Sure, but it comes off as not being thrilled to work with Deborah.

    • @SirPeterlll
      @SirPeterlll 3 роки тому +8

      Debbie misread the whole situation if she really meant it. No insult was there from the lady.

  • @ukseverestormchaser
    @ukseverestormchaser 3 роки тому +44

    Touker has presumably closed all of his businesses since the pandemic then because he doesn't like the idea of remote working?

  • @iamlegend68
    @iamlegend68 3 роки тому +249

    We all know that Deborah had second thoughts about her offer and used the sharing thing as a way out. If that comment genuinely upset her and she's been in business so long, I'm surprised she's so weak.

    • @Clamfaced
      @Clamfaced 3 роки тому +18

      I swear other pitchers have done similar things like that before and nobodys gotten mad so I think it might have been an excuse to back out. I know for sure people have been asked many times "Which Dragon would you want to make you an offer" and they've answered and people were fine with it.

    • @beerscotch611
      @beerscotch611 2 роки тому +7

      It's a reality TV show at the end of the day. Sometimes the drama is just fabricated for the audience.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean 2 роки тому +3

      Lol she's stronger than you'll ever be, mate.

    • @boykhan22
      @boykhan22 2 роки тому +1

      She is WEAK

    • @jdigi78
      @jdigi78 2 роки тому +7

      @@Clamfaced the issue isn't that they wanted the dragons to share, the issue is deborah had already made an offer and they were asking if they would split it as a means to get sarah on board instead. if you had 2 dragons who were on the fence it would be fair to suggest, but when one is all in and you're trying to convince another to go in too its a little disrespectful

  • @MaliYojez
    @MaliYojez 2 роки тому +50

    Something else was clearly going on and the Dragons took out their annoyance on the couple. Very unfair. Normally previous success would be an asset and collaboration between Dragons is often an option.

    • @deerheart87
      @deerheart87 3 дні тому

      Def they were all very hostile

  • @rohitthomas8040
    @rohitthomas8040 3 роки тому +107

    A nice couple, they deserved to be treated better.

  • @rorie16
    @rorie16 2 роки тому +203

    I felt so incredibly sorry for Claire when she apologised in the elevator...Deborahs reaction was incredibly and unnecessarily OTT and she should know better!

    • @lorenzoh.6571
      @lorenzoh.6571 Рік тому +13

      She regretted her offer and she used an excuse to escape

    • @nealphore
      @nealphore 11 місяців тому

      I just started watching, haven't seen anything and I'm already in agreement

    • @tonyttt31
      @tonyttt31 11 місяців тому +5

      I don't think it was very OTT. I also think Claire came in too soon with the split offer.

    • @rebekahcranwell6421
      @rebekahcranwell6421 11 місяців тому +3

      No, I don't think Deborah was unreasonable.

    • @carolkrone3610
      @carolkrone3610 2 місяці тому

      I think Claire jinxed herself. She just talked way too much. Should have let the husband handle the pitch.

  • @BleachRush
    @BleachRush 3 роки тому +175

    Deborah getting triggered was uncalled for. The business owners wanted to Capitalise on the opportunity not undermining Deborah's ability to help them. I don't get it why she got offended suddenly.

    • @JJR0694
      @JJR0694 3 роки тому +12

      It was a terrible idea to shop the money Deborah offered to other dragon's. Not even countered Deborah, just literally said your money is good now we have that in the bag does anyone else want to get in. Poor business, wise eyes see dossers from a mile off

    • @biscuit4259
      @biscuit4259 3 роки тому

      They go in wanting two dragons.

    • @mohammediqubaldesai8201
      @mohammediqubaldesai8201 3 роки тому +1

      She is just grumpy

    • @jakeevans9746
      @jakeevans9746 3 роки тому +2

      Seems like they are finding the silliest excuses so that they don’t have to invest. Deborah’s offer is not good at all with she wanting 40%. Don’t know why she’s so offended.

    • @JJR0694
      @JJR0694 3 роки тому

      @@jakeevans9746 risk 40k on some wank bank business then talk

  • @Nemcoification
    @Nemcoification 3 роки тому +67

    Debby: I'm not worried you have multiple businesses, you're capable.
    Also Debby: I was willing to overlook you having multiple businesses.

  • @andrewstubbs822
    @andrewstubbs822 3 роки тому +32

    Touka's having a tantrum here, like a geriatric who's spilled porridge over his chequered PJ's.

  • @EstrellaViajeViajero
    @EstrellaViajeViajero 3 роки тому +176

    Deborah definitely felt she was taking a punt, or she wouldn't have asked for 40%. So it's a bit weird she wouldn't want to split it with Sarah, as that would halve the risk. That makes me think she was on a knife edge about making the offer, and as soon as one thing happened that she didn't like, it pushed her back across the line.

    • @SuitedConnectors
      @SuitedConnectors 3 роки тому +4

      You're right.

    • @pepethunder
      @pepethunder 3 роки тому +7

      In that case it wouldnt even matter if they shook hands, Deborah would just do what Dragons have done before and not follow up on the investment offscreen. I guess the show is the real winner here with the drama.

    • @tgchikukwa6947
      @tgchikukwa6947 3 роки тому +7

      But Sarah had not made an offer to them

    • @susanwaugh3885
      @susanwaugh3885 3 роки тому +6

      It was her ego and that’s the reason she backed out. She didn’t like the fact she asked Sarah to join her. It made her feel as though Sarah was ‘the one’ needed to make this business a bigger success as she has greater knowledge of the food industry and had made her fortune from this, and Meadon was clearly hacked off by the entrepreneurs request. Sarah, to get on the right side of Deborah, backed out otherwise she was about to make an offer when Deborah made hers. It annoyed me how Sarah always has to be up Meadons arse and can’t stand on her on two feet during this programme and make offers unless other dragons make an offer. She gets on my nerves

    • @alannagrant1883
      @alannagrant1883 3 роки тому +5

      @@pepethunder that’s rubbish you often see follow up episodes with Deborah right there with her clients that she invested in and still mentoring them years later, so shut your gob

  • @commanderkeen3787
    @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +282

    Have a great lunch everyone lol

  • @adrodog17
    @adrodog17 3 роки тому +25

    I thought Deborah totally took it the wrong way, anyone could tell that there was no malice implied

  • @theovolz3073
    @theovolz3073 3 роки тому +52

    “There’s no such thing as bad publicity”
    Nick Jenkins: that is horrible. That is really, truly, HORRIBLE.

    • @wideawake914
      @wideawake914 3 роки тому +1

      That old saying only applies in show business, Companys will fight tooth and nail to avoid bad publicity.

    • @andrewstubbs822
      @andrewstubbs822 3 роки тому +2

      I think we're all DD addicts. The man's an absolute tosser.

    • @ajjo6987
      @ajjo6987 3 роки тому +5

      If you watch it again you ll see how he wanted to say “it’s disgusting “ 😂but then he realized Ou yeah horrible 😂😂😂

  • @deborahpeters1597
    @deborahpeters1597 3 роки тому +79

    Did anyone notice they said two dragons sixty thousand pound before they actually went in the den?,so that was there plan,I still felt sorry for them though.I think Sarah feels a bit intimidated by Deborah so tries to keep on the right side of her.

    • @collincovid6950
      @collincovid6950 3 роки тому +3

      Never noticed that. It came across as though Deborah had made the wrong decision, her percentage high, as though she expected the couple to pull out, and when they did not, the excuse came into play.

    • @logangallagher7050
      @logangallagher7050 3 роки тому +1

      Their

    • @kimgysen10
      @kimgysen10 3 роки тому +1

      Yes I did! If anything, it made me respect Deb's sense for business even more. It's not the kind of people Deborah would like to do business with.

    • @boykhan22
      @boykhan22 2 роки тому +1

      Moral of the story: never mention any thoughts verbally before entering the den. The walls have ears.

  • @ahmadsalmanmustafa5518
    @ahmadsalmanmustafa5518 3 роки тому +62

    Everyone talking about sarah and deborah
    Me: Peter was a bit quiet this time

  • @samtheguru
    @samtheguru 3 роки тому +90

    They got some harsh treatment here.

  • @kerrygallagher8508
    @kerrygallagher8508 3 роки тому +31

    Deborah definitely regretted making an offer and was looking for the perfect excuse to withdraw

  • @lewisdolan6990
    @lewisdolan6990 3 роки тому +100

    Deborah just changed her mind and made up any bull she could think of. Made herself look silly

    • @Kris_Aalst
      @Kris_Aalst 3 роки тому +7

      Nah, the deals made on camera are not binding at all, so she could have easily backed out at the real negotiations that start after the show.

    • @AwesomeMetalBands
      @AwesomeMetalBands 3 роки тому +3

      I don't agree the two so-called entrepreneurs completely rubbished her offer. Not professional

  • @Dykhouse
    @Dykhouse Рік тому +16

    I’ve never understood the angst over someone having another business. The Dragons all have multiple businesses.

    • @random-nz7dy
      @random-nz7dy Рік тому +1

      It's valid to ask somebody why they need your money if they already have super successful businesses going
      It's also a potential point of leverage in the negotiation

    • @9k49
      @9k49 Рік тому +1

      Ultimately they want the biggest ROI possible, other businesses can impact that

  • @juffjaff
    @juffjaff 3 роки тому +24

    "We've got a great product, and we're going to do really well"
    cuts to the Den on fire

  • @StandardGoose
    @StandardGoose 2 роки тому +83

    Why does Nick have such a hard time understanding that not everyone with Coeliac's disease wants to live on hard boiled eggs? Maybe they just fancy a cake every now and then.

    • @itsjustmaddisen
      @itsjustmaddisen 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly. My sister has it- I have Ulcerative Colitis and when it flares up I have to be put on a specific list and I would eat a lot of what my sister would cook and I’d even ask her help to learn how to cook it. It actually really helps when I have a flare up.

    • @misleadingwolf4098
      @misleadingwolf4098 6 місяців тому

      Nick doesn't have coeliac disease

  • @csabz
    @csabz 3 роки тому +22

    8:30 When I ask my boss if I could work from home one day a week.

    • @pauljames7333
      @pauljames7333 3 роки тому +2

      So true, sounds like you have a control freak manager like I do 😆

    • @chakalaka3960
      @chakalaka3960 3 роки тому +1

      Old fashioned management, my old CEO thinks you can only work if your ass is in the seat in the office

  • @Aztecius
    @Aztecius 2 роки тому +32

    Debroah can be truly embarrassed by how she acted he. Just embarrassing.

  • @danh9905
    @danh9905 3 роки тому +35

    As a celiac myself, I can say Nick really screwed up here. Yes, anyone can order a "gluten free" meal to enjoy the health benefits of being gluten free I have yet to discover, but its entirely different when even trace amounts from using the same utensils or work space can make you severely ill.

    • @dontakeshit
      @dontakeshit 3 роки тому +4

      But you must admit celiacs that are so gluten intolerant are a small market

    • @ameliashostak4764
      @ameliashostak4764 2 роки тому +1

      @@dontakeshit yeah i was gonna say that can't be the norm.

    • @katesummers709
      @katesummers709 2 роки тому +4

      @@dontakeshit all people with Celiac Disease have to completely avoid all gluten, wheat, barley and rye. It's not an intolerance, it's an autoimmune disease. Even a crumb of gluten is damaging.

    • @itsjustmaddisen
      @itsjustmaddisen 2 роки тому

      I don’t think he knows what words mean. Also he has no clue what cross contamination is.

    • @bexica5676
      @bexica5676 Рік тому +2

      Nick would be the type who says “just pick the croutons off the salad and it’s gluten free” meanwhile people with celiac disease would get sick from the remaining crumbs. Restaurants, if not properly trained (or maybe for lack of care) WILL do this. And people get very sick.

  • @axeman14
    @axeman14 3 роки тому +7

    If I ever see Touker on a beach somewhere I’m gonna bollock him and tell him to get back to the office immediately...

    • @dontakeshit
      @dontakeshit 3 роки тому

      He's finding people on the beach to rent his office space in London

    • @donramanayake1505
      @donramanayake1505 2 роки тому

      Lol - nice one!

  • @sheslying7117
    @sheslying7117 3 роки тому +27

    Deborah so insecure when she senses any kind of rejection

    • @alannagrant1883
      @alannagrant1883 3 роки тому

      Geeez you haven’t seen Touker and Peter in action then, you need to watch more episodes

    • @adamrandles4055
      @adamrandles4055 3 роки тому +1

      Yeahs it’s so apparent in loads of episodes

    • @blazkify
      @blazkify 3 роки тому +2

      and its not even a rejection. The fact that they include Debbie in the offer mean they already accept Debbie in their mind.

  • @EngKarimM
    @EngKarimM 2 роки тому +30

    I'm sure Claire mentioned the sharing option when Sarah was talking, in order to encourage Sarah to give even a partial offer.
    It's like she would say: "would you be ready to do a partial offer?".
    So i can't understand the crazy response she got. Moreover, not even having the chance to explain herself makes it even more outrageous.
    you know what? I think it might be in their benefit not to have such a grumpy dragon on their side...

  • @DarkReapersGrim1
    @DarkReapersGrim1 3 роки тому +47

    Just when I thought Deborah was going to make her first offer without following Peter Jones like a puppy, she goes out for one of the most trivial reasons. I've watched years of Shark Tank and Dragon's Den (Canada and UK) and rarely do the dragons/sharks get offended or ask "am I not good enough?" when the entrepreneur asks them if they'd like to work with another dragon/shark. It's almost like a compliment because you're putting the ball in their court and offering them the opportunity to work with whoever they want to work with. Add to that, it cuts down their level of risk with how much money/capital they have to put up if there's another dragon/shark willing to share the costs.

    • @2Malachi
      @2Malachi 3 роки тому

      AWALT.

    • @buckethead133
      @buckethead133 3 роки тому +2

      Defo she takes Peter as free ride. She is his little chihuahua. 😑

    • @raianf
      @raianf 3 роки тому +6

      It’s different in this case. Usually sharing comes after multiple offers are received. In this case they jumped the gun and alienated Deborah. As an investor I would do the same.

    • @MegaDudeman21
      @MegaDudeman21 2 роки тому

      @@raianf very immature

    • @Currie01
      @Currie01 Рік тому

      Agree 100%

  • @hobowithashotgun48
    @hobowithashotgun48 3 роки тому +94

    Honestly, if Deborah is willing to throw that kind of bratty tantrum on television, imagine how horrible it is to work with her once there are no cameras around. They're better off without her if thats the way she behaves. Dodged a bullet.

    • @kingdavewoody
      @kingdavewoody 2 роки тому +7

      I just came from another video where she had a tantrum after she made an offer and they tried getting Touker to make an offer. She apparently doesn't like not being a preferred dragon : /

    • @claudiogonzalez9926
      @claudiogonzalez9926 2 роки тому +4

      @@kingdavewoody well imagine making a decision based on your gut feeling against your beliefs or rationale, just to find out the feeling is unrequited. Just like in your love life. It hurts :P and it shows that they don't value your offering or they don't see how lucky they are to have it. It makes perfect sense.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 роки тому +2

      You should watch the reason she rejected Tangle Teezers.

    • @dbgreene9020
      @dbgreene9020 2 роки тому

      @@claudiogonzalez9926 exactly 💯!!

  • @Michael.Virtus
    @Michael.Virtus 3 роки тому +62

    And that's why the old saying "Silence Is Golden" is pure wisdom.

    • @criss2842
      @criss2842 3 роки тому +4

      It would have fallen through regardless.

    • @kebabkebob7808
      @kebabkebob7808 3 роки тому +6

      Debbie was looking for an excuse to get out, there was nothing wrong with what the entrepreneur said. She was being a child

    • @skiiwine9973
      @skiiwine9973 3 роки тому +1

      @@kebabkebob7808 If you think there was nothing wrong with what the entrepreneur said then you need to rewatch the video. And also the deals made on camera are not binding at all. There's still due diligence needs to be made.

    • @kebabkebob7808
      @kebabkebob7808 3 роки тому +1

      @@skiiwine9973 Ok I rewatched it and I'm still 100% correct

    • @skiiwine9973
      @skiiwine9973 3 роки тому +2

      @@kebabkebob7808 No you are not. If Debbie wanted to get out of the deal... she can do that one during the due diligence process. Like I said, the deals made on cam are not binding so it nullifies your argument about Debbie looking for an excuse.

  • @sagittarius_a_starr
    @sagittarius_a_starr 2 роки тому +8

    Before even getting into the elevator to go up, the two had already said that they wanted 2 dragons and 60K... she wanted 2 the whole time. Deborah did over-react, but her basic instinct isn't wrong: in a business relationship, how it begins, is how it ends. i think that's also true for romantic relationships. one of the best pieces of advice I've got.

  • @iiU2
    @iiU2 3 роки тому +48

    *She only wanted to see if the Dragons would share the % of the pitch. Double the experience, right?* We see it all the time in the Den. In fact, it shows that Debra was not very keen on the people running the business but would "make do" if it made money.

    • @Clamfaced
      @Clamfaced 3 роки тому +16

      Part of me thinks she changed her mind and was just looking for an excuse to be out.

    • @commanderkeen3787
      @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +7

      Deborah in a bad mood and/or Deborah finding the perfect opportunity to quickly cure her "investor's remorse"

    • @deborahpeters1597
      @deborahpeters1597 3 роки тому

      @@Clamfaced I totally agree with you great minds think alike!!!

    • @WayneBagguley
      @WayneBagguley 3 роки тому +2

      There are no nice dragons left any more. They don't seem to last very long, maybe because they don't want to be associated with such a-holes.

    • @nick777forde
      @nick777forde 3 роки тому +1

      The entrepreneur should have been patient and waited for Sarah's offer.

  • @texyrexy
    @texyrexy 3 роки тому +79

    Debbie throwing her toys out of the pram again.

  • @WonkaVator72
    @WonkaVator72 3 роки тому +12

    "The rules of the Den state that a Dragon may withdraw their offer at any time prior to it being accepted." Then it goes into the due diligence phase... where the offers often get withdrawn.

  • @BeastTheMadness
    @BeastTheMadness 3 роки тому +22

    Nick wanted to say "disgusting" but stopped himself 😂

    • @kmdewhurst
      @kmdewhurst 3 роки тому +11

      You need to save that word for something more serious. Like if one of your daughters forgets to flush after taking a shet. It was one of yas.

    • @Fjred
      @Fjred 3 роки тому +1

      @@kmdewhurst 😂

    • @GinjaFajr
      @GinjaFajr 3 роки тому +1

      @@kmdewhurst 😆classic

    • @zarganon9594
      @zarganon9594 3 роки тому +1

      he said rank which to me is worse

  • @m6xx7demix
    @m6xx7demix 3 роки тому +22

    Perfect timing for an upload just started my lunch break at work 🙂

    • @orionxtc1119
      @orionxtc1119 3 роки тому

      what did you get to eat?

    • @m6xx7demix
      @m6xx7demix 3 роки тому

      @@orionxtc1119 chicken curry 🤤

  • @Locutus
    @Locutus 3 роки тому +9

    Too many dragons throwing their toys out of the pram in this pitch.

  • @agenttyson007
    @agenttyson007 3 роки тому +34

    Dam! I kind of felt bad for these Entrepreneurs, especially leaving with your confidence Crushed like that. Deborah punished them Hard for the slightest mistake, she did not need to take it so Personal. It is a open business deal and she is only trying to encourage another Dragon to Invest, which is the Whole Point of the Show.

  • @NecroMorrius
    @NecroMorrius 3 роки тому +14

    What the hell is Touker on about

    • @royfr8136
      @royfr8136 3 роки тому +2

      They wouldnt be interested in his London offices... so hes angry..

    • @Polkadot2
      @Polkadot2 3 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @commanderkeen3787
      @commanderkeen3787 3 роки тому +3

      Touker is always so emotional. When he doesn't like someone, it's usually for some arbitrary reason. He then sits back and listens intently for a more measured analysis from one of the other Dragons, to see if he made a mistake

  • @HHHKingofKings58
    @HHHKingofKings58 3 роки тому +52

    Lmao Debbie is such a spoiled brat. She always throws her toys out of her pram at the slightest hint that someone would be interested in anything other than an exclusive deal with her alone.

    • @JCstock
      @JCstock 3 роки тому +3

      They're all spoiled brats they're multimillionaires.

    • @alfunzsean5381
      @alfunzsean5381 3 роки тому +1

      Not at all she's smart I rate her for that they was just there to talk on and on 🤣😅

    • @alannagrant1883
      @alannagrant1883 3 роки тому +2

      I think Deborah is the most astute, honest and intelligent, loyal dragon out of all them!, I’d pick her anytime over the others

  • @janetanderson5463
    @janetanderson5463 2 роки тому +57

    I hope that they are madly successful , I think that all of the Dragons were unnecessarily horrible to the poor couple . The Dragons self importance is making them nasty people in my opinion.

    • @skylarrose4854
      @skylarrose4854 2 роки тому +6

      They ended up being successful

    • @intrepidtomato
      @intrepidtomato Рік тому

      @@skylarrose4854 that's what I thought!! they are clearly already successful

  • @finsouth-klein1054
    @finsouth-klein1054 3 роки тому +8

    Nick: That bread roll is absolutely rank
    *continues eating bread roll*

  • @therealchocolatebrownie
    @therealchocolatebrownie 3 роки тому +43

    *After Debra makes an offer...
    Entrepreneurs- Hello other Dragons
    Debra (triggered)- I'm offended and I don't think you're interested in my offer and for that reason I'm out!
    🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 3 роки тому +1

      It's not written "Debra".

    • @therealchocolatebrownie
      @therealchocolatebrownie 3 роки тому +4

      @@BenjaminGoose Deborah.... here you go mate 👍

    • @buckethead133
      @buckethead133 3 роки тому +2

      @@BenjaminGoose Wow such a great comment. Your effort is highly regarded.

    • @Kris_Aalst
      @Kris_Aalst 3 роки тому +3

      That's not at all what happened. I suggest you watch the video again. They get an offer and they immediately ask the remaining dragons (in this case only one but that doesn't matter) if they want to share with Deborah. That's a nono. That's saying, "We don't want to go with only Deborah so please jump on board". The "we don't want to go with only Deborah" part is insulting to her.

    • @therealchocolatebrownie
      @therealchocolatebrownie 3 роки тому +2

      @Kris Maybe they thought that Sarah and Deborah will make exceptional partners for them if they work together. I know that they didn't relay that in a proper manner but I understood why they asked the question. There was no reason for Deborah to get offended! And if you watch other Dragon's Den videos you will notice that Deborah does this all the time. If she has put an offer on the table and if the entrepreneurs ask another dragon a question after "talking to the wall", she gets offended straight away! Often the Dragons, especially Deborah, Peter, and Touker forget that the entrepreneurs have the right to negotiate with any dragon they want! That doesn't necessarily mean that they are dismissing their offers. Why does a said Dragon have to be the entrepreneur's first choice? What's wrong with being the second choice? As long they can make the Dragons more money, that should be more than enough! Deborah doesn't get this! And hence the reason for my comment. 🙌

  • @ashes187
    @ashes187 3 роки тому +10

    This episode was definitely shot on a Monday....such mood swings by the Dragons....

  • @teerath11
    @teerath11 3 роки тому +10

    One of the most childish and cruel episode on those poor business people. Feel really bad for them. Those dragons have become so pathetic.

  • @iancampbell9297
    @iancampbell9297 3 роки тому +13

    Wow Debbie ,get over yourself...she's just exploring other options

  • @atharvapansare1487
    @atharvapansare1487 3 роки тому +24

    It was so obvious that once Sarah didn't look too keen on investing, Deborah regretted her offer. What a lame excuse just to withdraw the offer! There was no need to act like such a spoilt brat.

  • @mrsurprise2294
    @mrsurprise2294 3 роки тому +19

    I'm mad keen for a bread roll right now

  • @mountainman6172
    @mountainman6172 2 роки тому +5

    Debra rant at the end is the epitome of 'tactical gambit'

    • @rjmunt
      @rjmunt Рік тому

      "taking a calculated risk in order to gain an advantage" is my understanding of the term *tactical gambit* wrong ?

  • @galacticosmoderncombatvers6315
    @galacticosmoderncombatvers6315 3 роки тому +13

    As I think Deborah is always really honest, this time, she was unbelievably horrible, bu putting this lady on the spot like that!

  • @sajjadali2008
    @sajjadali2008 2 роки тому +8

    They have deals that they share on Dragons Den all the time, Deborah was SO wrong there. She just merely asked if they would want to share it probably due to Sarah's experience.

  • @melissamcclain34
    @melissamcclain34 2 роки тому +7

    I'm @11:22 and I knew just as soon as the entrepreneurs said they owned a hotel together that Peter Jones was going to get all worked up about their level of commitment to the business😂😂😂

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 роки тому +2

      7:32 Touker was worse, literally attacking them for going on holiday even though the business can be run from anywhere. Get with the times already.

  • @FeedMyPets
    @FeedMyPets Рік тому +4

    Touker went mental and even after replaying it i can’t fully work out why.

    • @Drawingb
      @Drawingb 8 днів тому

      Prolly upset they came to pitch bread and not their other business 😂

  • @reginalram9050
    @reginalram9050 3 роки тому +12

    Deborah gave a terrible offer for 40% of the company without stating how she could help them. They should have rejected it outright

  • @Gedagnors
    @Gedagnors 3 роки тому +7

    "Colum is quick to make clear that the 25-year-old friendship wasn't on the rocks as a result. "We would never have given away 40% for just £60,000."'
    (belfasttelegraph)

  • @-WhizzBang-
    @-WhizzBang- Рік тому +7

    She shouldn't be so upset that she screwed things up with Deborah! She wanted to take 40% of their business. They are probably better off with what happened!

  • @luxgoods
    @luxgoods Рік тому +5

    That’s a good example on the saying that ‘There’s no room for mistakes in business’. That was merciless from Deborah.

    • @9k49
      @9k49 Рік тому +2

      sad but true. Deborah was unprofessional in her response but hopefully Claire learnt the lesson about *how* to put forward offers.
      The sad reality is it’s more about ‘how’ you present something than ‘what’ it is

  • @itsthatenglishdriver
    @itsthatenglishdriver 3 роки тому +11

    I really like Dragons den but situations like that with Deborah almost makes me question if I want to watch it any more.

    • @donramanayake1505
      @donramanayake1505 2 роки тому +3

      I agree. I feel if the show is about rich people due to their money abusing contestants, I'd rather not watch. If its about investments or drama its one thing. This is disgusting - Deborah didn't even deign to acknowledge the apology. Even when it was proffered after all the deals were done and the show had ended.

    • @whyisblue923taken
      @whyisblue923taken 2 роки тому

      Yeah. This kind of thing makes me want to stick to US Shark Tank and I don't like Mark or Lori.

    • @Phyto.
      @Phyto. Рік тому +3

      I have been binging DD on youtube, but this episode is where I draw the line. Firstly, how dare they throw a tantrum about running more than one business when that is LITERALLY the reason they sit on those seats in the first place. But Deborah's tantrum was the icing on the cake. I am done with these childish predatory capitalists.

  • @lookitdatassby
    @lookitdatassby 5 місяців тому +1

    My insight tells me that Deb pulled out when she had the first opportunity and did a classic "it's not me, it's you". 😂

  • @Dylan-xt7ki
    @Dylan-xt7ki 2 роки тому +3

    Nick Jenkins has clearly never heard of coeliacs. Pretending that him "not eating the bread" is anywhere near the same as a coeliac being bed ridden with pain because the lentils the kitchen used had a single grain of wheat cross contaminating them

  • @alexander191297
    @alexander191297 2 роки тому +2

    Colum: “Hello, my name is Colum, and with me today is Claire”…
    Deborah: *Starts writing in her notebook*

  • @Heydd00
    @Heydd00 3 роки тому +20

    Damn, I feel sorry for them. None of them really wanted to invest, they were just playing with them.

    • @TheAazah
      @TheAazah 3 роки тому +2

      Deb was fully in so I don't get why they wanted to share it. Makes no sense to me. The comment section over reacted

    • @yusufpatel5519
      @yusufpatel5519 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheAazah there’s nothing wrong with them just asking Sara if she wants to share

    • @donniethezombie4495
      @donniethezombie4495 3 роки тому +2

      @@yusufpatel5519 except there was only one offer on the table.

    • @TaxingIsThieving
      @TaxingIsThieving 2 роки тому

      @@yusufpatel5519 Not before Sara gives an offer.

  • @boshankers12
    @boshankers12 Рік тому +6

    Deborah is actually a disgusting person. She regretted her offer and used that innocuous reason to get out of it. That poor woman looked absolutely crushed. It’s nice that her business partner consoled her

  • @frontleftfender
    @frontleftfender 3 роки тому +4

    They broke the first "rule of crumb", never test a dragons ego

  • @greatsoldier
    @greatsoldier Місяць тому +1

    Before they even stepped foot into the den they already said they wanted 2 dragons, I can see how her mind jumped there

  • @royfr8136
    @royfr8136 3 роки тому +18

    Deb has such an ego. These people are such cxxts. She got them feeling apologetic about giving up 40% of their business. And trying to negotiate. I think all of the dragons were the kind of kids at school that were really selfish, never shared and.. generally cxxts. It was her ego that was offended.

    • @yolo7349
      @yolo7349 3 роки тому +1

      The most successful people normally have those traits

    • @Samuel1836
      @Samuel1836 3 роки тому +1

      Even Sarah Willingham?

    • @royfr8136
      @royfr8136 3 роки тому +1

      @@Samuel1836 She was slightly walked over on the show. And left. Most of the dragons that I have felt were 'ok' left. I think Peter and Deb are terrible people. It's just that this society praises money. And people who make it - their personalities are ignored.

    • @donramanayake1505
      @donramanayake1505 2 роки тому

      @@yolo7349 You mean successful as in caring and ensuring the well fare of thousands of people like Mother Theresa?

    • @royfr8136
      @royfr8136 2 роки тому

      @@donramanayake1505 mother Theresa was another cxnt. you obviously know nothing about her

  • @HateTheEnding
    @HateTheEnding 6 місяців тому +1

    People like Nick are the reason that those of us with allergies and intolerances are not listened to. He chose not to eat gluten and yes, many things are naturally gluten free. But he's not considering the pans the food is cooked it, chopping boards, the fact that wheat shows up in the weirdest places. And that for us, a bit of gluten or an allergen, causes prolonged intense pain and illness and worse for people who have anaphylactic symptoms. Also,1 in 10 people are estimated to be coeliac so there is definitely an audience out there!

  • @macmoody68
    @macmoody68 2 роки тому +3

    No wonder Debs doesn’t have any children.

  • @ListerLanius
    @ListerLanius 3 роки тому +11

    Just eating my Five Guys lunch at work in Chiswick, hope everyone is well!

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 3 роки тому +2

      No one cares what you're eating.

    • @ListerLanius
      @ListerLanius 3 роки тому +3

      @@BenjaminGoose you silly goose

  • @sjaakvanderelst3084
    @sjaakvanderelst3084 3 роки тому +10

    I love Dragons Den and I love you, have a great day wherever you are and whomever you are.

  • @UndisclosedTalent
    @UndisclosedTalent 3 роки тому +2

    Moonpig ate a lot of that roll before deciding it was 'rank'

  • @ItsRoflz
    @ItsRoflz 3 роки тому +11

    Deborah makes some good investments but I've been saying for awhile that she's kind of hypocritical. I mean think about how many times entrepreneurs have multiple offers on the table, just for the entrepreneurs to immediately address Deborah and Peters offers. Rarely did you hear the other dragons complaining when this happened.

  • @StorytellerDan
    @StorytellerDan 3 роки тому +2

    Rrrriiiight, because Solomon isn´t somewhere else whilst his enterprise is running along.

  • @d.gerstmann4930
    @d.gerstmann4930 3 роки тому +17

    Honestly, I feel that in this case the dragons were being less than fair.

  • @nickjames2407
    @nickjames2407 3 роки тому +2

    Debbie stubbed her out like a cigarette just to cop out. Nasty.

  • @fefeeffefeff8237
    @fefeeffefeff8237 3 роки тому +4

    weirdest pitch i've ever seen, maybe the producers told them to act a certain way or something because that was just bizzare, they did literally nothing wrong

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 3 роки тому

      It’s obvious they were told to play up for the cameras. Even Nick’s comments were weird.