@@carlossalazar2164 not sure when you worked there? Time will tell how the tires do after a year? All the manufacturers are using the basic same rubber compound. I purchased these tires at Costco so they have a 60k mile tread warranty. The BFG trail terrains are very similar to the BFG KO2, but street oriented bias. Pirelli owns BFGoodrich so they stand behind the product. BTW - I do like my Trail Terrains, I’ve put on about 5,000 miles.
@Mitchell Kasdin just my experience when I worked at a tire shop, you're going back 11yrs. Maybe they did improve already, but personally, I would never run them
@@carlossalazar2164 With the advent of computers, cad-cam and material science, what was status quo is no longer the case. Michelin the parent company would not warranty the tires for 60k miles if that was the case? Also, not sure where you worked, but the BF Goodrich Trail Terrains are new tires, first labeled and manufactured in 2019. So when you say the tires are no good it’s conjecture not real world experience. I own the Trail Terrains tires and overall they are far better then the OEM Pirelli Scorpions 🦂. Are the trail terrains the best tires? Probably not, but there is no best tires in all categories.
Do this video with each brand! Thier all terrains and up. It would help log everything each company is offering at that time. Idk might be cool. It was nice to see all these bad boys next to each other.
the salesman asked me if I wanted the 20" rim and wider tires... I said no.... I want the 19" skinny tire... he asked why... I said it handles these eastcoast potholes better due to bigger sidewall and bites thru the snow better... not to mention protects against the curbs also...I buy for practicality... :)
look at the tire size of those old model fords going through cow paths; when there were practically no roads or infrastructure. some learning from those old film reels
Sipes are for gaining more straight line traction in slippery conditions. The reason the sipes don’t go all the way to the edge of the tire is to prevent chunking of the edges of the tire if you are to drive off-road.
Wow, this video summed up a massive amount of highly technical tire technology in a concise video! I've been in the tire industry for over 10 years, specifically in LT/Off Road tire evaluation/performance and the amount of condensed information here is phenomenal. Wet compound traction(not hydroplane) are some major differences you'll find overall, with winter performance(tread compound and design) a close second outside of major design differences in mud/sand traction already discussed in this video. Excellent video!
3 peak mountain snowflake is a spin up traction test only. No braking. No handling. It is acceleration only and done in a lab. It's an indicator of possible winter performance, but so much more goes into a tire actually being good in the snow.
Hey we live up above the snow line and don't drive paved roads. Just gravle dirt mud n snow. I have Swampers and BFG Baja's Mt and my Maxxis Mt. Wife has Hankook I Pike. Great snow tire!!!
ATs don't cut it in mud. Siped mild mudders with a compound that doesn't freeze will work OK almost anywhere. Check out the Trxus MT and the discontinued Parnelli Jones Dirt Grip.
We've had great luck with the Yokohama MT, they've done well in rain and snow, better than my old Mickey ATZP3. A lot noisier though and they flat spot pretty bad. The mickeys are better in most conditions except crazy mud and snow, and they fixed the snow with the new version. You are right. There's nothing more slippery in the universe than a Falken or BFG in the dirt after the rain.
I break through brush, honey locusts, sharp rocks, occasional lost fence post, etc. I just gashed the sidewall on my Trxus M/T so bad I won’t keep driving it. I take my air down to 8psi on sand, 18 on rocks and whatnot, 25 on the road, 35 long trips. I need tough sidewalls. Oh, I also have a thing for ignoring curbs so yeah I need tougher tires.
You should put on your website top categories people value in choosing tires. Based on their input, recommmend tires they should buy. For example, ask how much dry, wet, snow handling, offroading vs driving in asphalt matters to them and recommend a product.
@@TrailBuilt surprised you were able to read that. Just saw that it was full of bad auto corrections. Glad you got the gist of it. Fixed the comment now.
Seem to value the 3pmsf and m+s rating or at least mention it quite a bit. It might be worth mentioning, that not all tires that have it, are good. I have hankook dynapros on my new truck and they're trash compared to the wranglers my other truck had. Both at tires, the hankook wet traction is ass, break loose with much less throttle on snow/rain.
I’m in the market for new tyres and it’s the most confusing and mind numbing decision ever! They are so damn expensive, it’s not something you want to get wrong.
I recently installed Kenda Klever 35x10.5T17LT R/T and I instantly regretted it. I love the tires. They’re quiet and grippy but they look like 33s compared to my buddy’s 35x12.5R17 BFG KO2.
@@TrailBuilt they are awesome. I decided to get the 10.5” wide instead of 12.5”. Being 2.5” wider sure makes big difference visually. Wished I knew how different it would look before I bought them.
@@TrailBuilt I run Kenda Klever R/T KR601s on my Jeep XJ. I've always liked the performance of tall/skinny tires. I've used wider tires for sand but I prefer tall/skinny for mud/snow.
Dam with 3 tires in front you 10! Minutes on that bfg alteratain. Dam let's talk bout the rest of them you must have a lot of them to sell. My Maxxis covers all those features plus way more .
I see one set of Baja Pro tires from Mickey Thompson but they are backordered! I could find something available maybe 44" spec tires? www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/store/tires?sort=popular&width_from=44&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0
Awesome video! Any plans to test the Toyo Open Country CT? I’ve had them on my Power Wagon for 15k miles and I really like them. Drove coast to coast twice with them, snow/ice, rain, mud, rocks…they can truly do it all.
I have the same tire and mostly use them for hotshot in the north but occasionally head south so they've seen it all. From hauling pipe into AZ mines up steep grades on loose gravel to hauling conex in ID out of massive cobalt mines on tight single lane snowpacked mountain passes and all the HW in between. They are fantastic tires that deserve more attention.
Depends on the type of look you are going for with your setup, I found this setup in our gallery running those specs and I really like it! www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/wheel-offset-gallery/2518176/2015-ford-f-150-fuel-rebar-6-zone-suspension-lift-6in
I have old style kms that were jk rubicon take offs on my Gladiator. Great off road. But man are they noisy. They have a pretty symmetrical tread pattern. Smart of them to change that for the km3
Km3 are amazing. I've had mine for about a year now and the are amazing in snow,mud,ice,rocks. Plus ride smooth and pretty dam close to silent for a Mt tire
What tires would you recommend for casual offroading. I drive a chevy trailblazer with 5" worth of lift(3" suspension 2"body) and mostly encounter sand(sugar sand) with the occasional mud(clay) but also use the truck to daily around.
Best Hybrid tires. Nitto Ridge Grapplers. I daily them (about 40 mins each way to work). Not loud and it handles the curvy roads Just make sure your under 33 PSI any higher and your spine will shatter. lol I also went on many trails in Southern California. It was able to tackle most trails. (some just came down to articulation and clearance) Haven't tested on John Bull yet. Hope to tackle that beast this summer. Remember with sand will any off-roading (I.E Sand Hallow) its always about tire pressure. 20 PSI or less of if you're bead locked 10-15. SET-UP 3rd Gen 4Runner. 4WD 2.5 inch lift. Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/75/R16. 2nd rec would be Toyo Open Country and Milestar Patagonia A/Ts
To put into perspective how much money is put into tire development, Goodyear has been testing on the ISS to see if there are any benefits of fabrication, specifically the formation of silica partials, in zero gravity.
This is such valuable information, thank you!! Hopefully my stones never get stuck in the tread block. Haha, but seriously, your videos are the best on UA-cam in this market. Keep it up!
I’m trying to find legit advice on whether the trail terrains would be sufficient for a half ton truck that occasionally tows given the limited weight ratings offered. I don’t need the KO2 for how much I’m on road but I also don’t want a CUV tire
I would try something like the Yokohama GO15. Nice rugged tire with good all weather traction and better off road than you'd expect, plus some nice reasonably still walls for hauling and towing. Puncture resistant and great tread life. They had a little whine on concrete on my truck, but only at like 68 mph, quiet at all other speeds. I know your post is old but I hope this helps.
I have a question. First time this has been an issue. Everyday I have to drop my tire pressure to 33lbs from 37 lbs sometimes 39lbs why do they keep getting so high in pressure? Should I just leave it alone I have a jk so it’s not heavy. 315/70/17 size Goodyear territory mt tire
We find that the Baja Boss seems to be the more popular choice. The Baja Boss is great in lose surfaces and the Legend is good for larger rocks. Both can provide a great off-road experience!
I thought this is off road things but this is not for off road. Just for city people that people don’t have any knowledge in the Nature and all paying money You may change name put love to on the front 😂
You guys push your website all the time and I’m starting to think you don’t know how broken your site is. Has been for months. A stock Chrome browser renders a horrible UI. Looks like lots of CSS and JavaScript issues. It’s completely unusable.
You guys are charging more for tyres over there than we pay for them in Australia 🤔 strange. Eg 285/65r18 wildpeaks - $414 each on your website $350 each here in Oz 🇦🇺🇦🇺
Almost 20 min of this video is a BFG Trail Terrain overview just a heads up.
I just ordered the BFG trail terrains so that’s good.
Bfg fkn suck lol. When I worked at a tire shop most tires past a yr of production date started to crack bad between the treads
@@carlossalazar2164 not sure when you worked there? Time will tell how the tires do after a year? All the manufacturers are using the basic same rubber compound. I purchased these tires at Costco so they have a 60k mile tread warranty. The BFG trail terrains are very similar to the BFG KO2, but street oriented bias. Pirelli owns BFGoodrich so they stand behind the product. BTW - I do like my Trail Terrains, I’ve put on about 5,000 miles.
@Mitchell Kasdin just my experience when I worked at a tire shop, you're going back 11yrs. Maybe they did improve already, but personally, I would never run them
@@carlossalazar2164 With the advent of computers, cad-cam and material science, what was status quo is no longer the case. Michelin the parent company would not warranty the tires for 60k miles if that was the case? Also, not sure where you worked, but the BF Goodrich Trail Terrains are new tires, first labeled and manufactured in 2019. So when you say the tires are no good it’s conjecture not real world experience. I own the Trail Terrains tires and overall they are far better then the OEM Pirelli Scorpions 🦂. Are the trail terrains the best tires? Probably not, but there is no best tires in all categories.
Do this video with each brand! Thier all terrains and up. It would help log everything each company is offering at that time. Idk might be cool. It was nice to see all these bad boys next to each other.
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the salesman asked me if I wanted the 20" rim and wider tires... I said no.... I want the 19" skinny tire... he asked why... I said it handles these eastcoast potholes better due to bigger sidewall and bites thru the snow better... not to mention protects against the curbs also...I buy for practicality... :)
look at the tire size of those old model fords going through cow paths; when there were practically no roads or infrastructure. some learning from those old film reels
Good for you
Sipes are for gaining more straight line traction in slippery conditions. The reason the sipes don’t go all the way to the edge of the tire is to prevent chunking of the edges of the tire if you are to drive off-road.
Wow, this video summed up a massive amount of highly technical tire technology in a concise video! I've been in the tire industry for over 10 years, specifically in LT/Off Road tire evaluation/performance and the amount of condensed information here is phenomenal. Wet compound traction(not hydroplane) are some major differences you'll find overall, with winter performance(tread compound and design) a close second outside of major design differences in mud/sand traction already discussed in this video. Excellent video!
We appreciate the kind words and the support!
3 peak mountain snowflake is a spin up traction test only. No braking. No handling. It is acceleration only and done in a lab. It's an indicator of possible winter performance, but so much more goes into a tire actually being good in the snow.
Hey we live up above the snow line and don't drive paved roads. Just gravle dirt mud n snow. I have Swampers and BFG Baja's Mt and my Maxxis Mt. Wife has Hankook I Pike. Great snow tire!!!
ATs don't cut it in mud. Siped mild mudders with a compound that doesn't freeze will work OK almost anywhere. Check out the Trxus MT and the discontinued Parnelli Jones Dirt Grip.
We've had great luck with the Yokohama MT, they've done well in rain and snow, better than my old Mickey ATZP3. A lot noisier though and they flat spot pretty bad. The mickeys are better in most conditions except crazy mud and snow, and they fixed the snow with the new version. You are right. There's nothing more slippery in the universe than a Falken or BFG in the dirt after the rain.
I break through brush, honey locusts, sharp rocks, occasional lost fence post, etc. I just gashed the sidewall on my Trxus M/T so bad I won’t keep driving it.
I take my air down to 8psi on sand, 18 on rocks and whatnot, 25 on the road, 35 long trips. I need tough sidewalls. Oh, I also have a thing for ignoring curbs so yeah I need tougher tires.
You should put on your website top categories people value in choosing tires. Based on their input, recommmend tires they should buy. For example, ask how much dry, wet, snow handling, offroading vs driving in asphalt matters to them and recommend a product.
Great suggestion, definitely something we can consider adding to the site in the near future!
@@TrailBuilt surprised you were able to read that. Just saw that it was full of bad auto corrections. Glad you got the gist of it. Fixed the comment now.
Great idea
Seem to value the 3pmsf and m+s rating or at least mention it quite a bit. It might be worth mentioning, that not all tires that have it, are good. I have hankook dynapros on my new truck and they're trash compared to the wranglers my other truck had. Both at tires, the hankook wet traction is ass, break loose with much less throttle on snow/rain.
I’m in the market for new tyres and it’s the most confusing and mind numbing decision ever! They are so damn expensive, it’s not something you want to get wrong.
Update. I went with the BFG KM3s. So far, I couldn’t be happier.
Something that is not talked about much is Tire weight … does a light weight tire help performance(less energy needed to turn tire) and Fuel economy?
it sure does!
Yes but it’s also more susceptible to punctures off road.
Well said. Thank you
I recently installed Kenda Klever 35x10.5T17LT R/T and I instantly regretted it. I love the tires. They’re quiet and grippy but they look like 33s compared to my buddy’s 35x12.5R17 BFG KO2.
Man thats a bummer! Kenda Klevers are awesome!
@@TrailBuilt they are awesome. I decided to get the 10.5” wide instead of 12.5”. Being 2.5” wider sure makes big difference visually. Wished I knew how different it would look before I bought them.
@@TrailBuilt I run Kenda Klever R/T KR601s on my Jeep XJ. I've always liked the performance of tall/skinny tires. I've used wider tires for sand but I prefer tall/skinny for mud/snow.
So you are basing your regret solely on looks? I love my 35x10.5r17 on, and off-road.
@@LRtwins2 and your basing my comment based on just the word “regretted“? Please, now tell me what the sentence after my regret sentence says.
Dam with 3 tires in front you 10! Minutes on that bfg alteratain. Dam let's talk bout the rest of them you must have a lot of them to sell. My Maxxis covers all those features plus way more .
Super swamper tires all the WAY
What wheels are shown on your highlander? I would like a set.
Wish the Kenda klever rt was made in a 285/75/16
I love the price of the milestar Patagonias but damn in all my research everyone says you’ll be lucky to see 30,000 usable miles
Well, since you already did everything on your website, where can I find a set of 54s???
I see one set of Baja Pro tires from Mickey Thompson but they are backordered! I could find something available maybe 44" spec tires? www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/store/tires?sort=popular&width_from=44&saleToggle=0&qdToggle=0
@@TrailBuilt they have interco’s super swampers and 49
Awesome video! Any plans to test the Toyo Open Country CT? I’ve had them on my Power Wagon for 15k miles and I really like them. Drove coast to coast twice with them, snow/ice, rain, mud, rocks…they can truly do it all.
I have the same tire and mostly use them for hotshot in the north but occasionally head south so they've seen it all. From hauling pipe into AZ mines up steep grades on loose gravel to hauling conex in ID out of massive cobalt mines on tight single lane snowpacked mountain passes and all the HW in between. They are fantastic tires that deserve more attention.
Thanks for the great info., what is recommendations for all terrain tires for 2015 Explorer with 20R rims.
Depends on the type of look you are going for with your setup, I found this setup in our gallery running those specs and I really like it! www.trailbuiltoffroad.com/wheel-offset-gallery/2518176/2015-ford-f-150-fuel-rebar-6-zone-suspension-lift-6in
I have old style kms that were jk rubicon take offs on my Gladiator. Great off road. But man are they noisy. They have a pretty symmetrical tread pattern. Smart of them to change that for the km3
Km3 are amazing. I've had mine for about a year now and the are amazing in snow,mud,ice,rocks. Plus ride smooth and pretty dam close to silent for a Mt tire
Toyo Open Country R/T Trail, baby! Go hybrid
So if you are totally crazy and willing to have two sets of tires and wheels, one for on road like a A/T tire and an M/T tire?
Daily/Weekend Warrior stuff
Nitto Ridge Grapplers
BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2
Big boy off-roading
Milestar PATAGONIA M/T
Mickey Thompson Baja Boss M/T
how about doing a review on the nokian outpost at thanks amillion love this site
What tires would you recommend for casual offroading. I drive a chevy trailblazer with 5" worth of lift(3" suspension 2"body) and mostly encounter sand(sugar sand) with the occasional mud(clay) but also use the truck to daily around.
Best Hybrid tires. Nitto Ridge Grapplers. I daily them (about 40 mins each way to work). Not loud and it handles the curvy roads Just make sure your under 33 PSI any higher and your spine will shatter. lol
I also went on many trails in Southern California. It was able to tackle most trails. (some just came down to articulation and clearance) Haven't tested on John Bull yet. Hope to tackle that beast this summer. Remember with sand will any off-roading (I.E Sand Hallow) its always about tire pressure. 20 PSI or less of if you're bead locked 10-15.
SET-UP
3rd Gen 4Runner. 4WD 2.5 inch lift. Nitto Ridge Grapplers 285/75/R16.
2nd rec would be Toyo Open Country and Milestar Patagonia A/Ts
To put into perspective how much money is put into tire development, Goodyear has been testing on the ISS to see if there are any benefits of fabrication, specifically the formation of silica partials, in zero gravity.
This is such valuable information, thank you!! Hopefully my stones never get stuck in the tread block. Haha, but seriously, your videos are the best on UA-cam in this market. Keep it up!
Glad it was helpful! We definitely appreciate the support and enjoy making these informal video for you guys.
Sand, gravel and dirt is what I most frequently drive on.
Recommended tire?
Falken wildpeak At3w is a great tire all around tire
Milestar Patagonia's, because that's what Matt from Matts Off-Road recovery uses. 😂
The indestrucible K02
Just put kenda at2 on my truck and love them
I’m trying to find legit advice on whether the trail terrains would be sufficient for a half ton truck that occasionally tows given the limited weight ratings offered. I don’t need the KO2 for how much I’m on road but I also don’t want a CUV tire
I would try something like the Yokohama GO15. Nice rugged tire with good all weather traction and better off road than you'd expect, plus some nice reasonably still walls for hauling and towing. Puncture resistant and great tread life. They had a little whine on concrete on my truck, but only at like 68 mph, quiet at all other speeds. I know your post is old but I hope this helps.
Good Stuff,Great Tips 😄👍🏿
I have a question. First time this has been an issue. Everyday I have to drop my tire pressure to 33lbs from 37 lbs sometimes 39lbs why do they keep getting so high in pressure? Should I just leave it alone I have a jk so it’s not heavy. 315/70/17 size Goodyear territory mt tire
When they warm up from diving the pressure goes up. Only check tires when they're cold.
So what better for pure offroad ? A Mickey Thompson MTZ or the BAJA BOSS M/T. ? Woupd one be louder than the other ?
We find that the Baja Boss seems to be the more popular choice. The Baja Boss is great in lose surfaces and the Legend is good for larger rocks. Both can provide a great off-road experience!
When it comes to loudness on the road, because both are beefy tires, they will both produce noise. However, most people find it not to be that bad.
@TrailBuilt thanks so much I love the channel
Are you affiliated with custom offsets?
Yes sir! That is our brother company.
Informative
Thoughts on super swampers?
They engineer them so they won't get sued and so we have to treat them as a major purchase.
Cant they make a tire last longer than 4years
Ever hear of interco
Milestar Patagonia tires
what is the best off road tires for 05 Subaru Baja
Great question! What kind of off roading are you planning on doing? Where do you live? WIll these be daily driven too?
@@TrailBuilt any all terrain tires that has M+S traction
@@TrailBuilt and yes they will be daily driven
@@TrailBuilt Looking at the thumb nail, are the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT bad tires ?
@@gen1c8rs88 no, they are good, this guy has a few videos on them… just luck of the drawl on the picture.
1st I guess...why not
Double check their statements
Went on ur sight…very difficult to navigate
Trail terrain tire is going to be useless off-road,it is probably a good rain and ligth snow tire.The KM3 tire is a very good off-road tire.
I thought this is off road things but this is not for off road.
Just for city people that people don’t have any knowledge in the Nature and all paying money
You may change name put love to on the front 😂
🤔
You guys push your website all the time and I’m starting to think you don’t know how broken your site is. Has been for months. A stock Chrome browser renders a horrible UI. Looks like lots of CSS and JavaScript issues. It’s completely unusable.
You guys are charging more for tyres over there than we pay for them in Australia 🤔 strange. Eg 285/65r18 wildpeaks - $414 each on your website $350 each here in Oz 🇦🇺🇦🇺