Destroying Japanese Equipment After WWII - Saishu Island (Jeju-Do) October 1945 [ WWII Documentary ]

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  • @tonyheffernan7403
    @tonyheffernan7403 Місяць тому +237

    What a waste of good Scrap Metal

    • @jacobbradford7229
      @jacobbradford7229 Місяць тому +23

      My thoughts exactly.

    • @johnye4433
      @johnye4433 Місяць тому +10

      The U.S. had overcapacity problems too with their ships, so they sank them as well.

    • @IlllllllIIIIIIl
      @IlllllllIIIIIIl Місяць тому +17

      미국은 일본군의 무기를 한국 제주도 앞바다에 버렸다. 한국전쟁때 저 무기를 남한에 줬으면 북한군이 쳐 들어왔을때 더 버틸수 있었을것이다.

    • @sommebuddy
      @sommebuddy Місяць тому +10

      What were they supposed to do with it?....transport it 9 thousand miles to the USA for processing?.. Spend millions on fuel to transport thousands of tons of scrap?. There is no way it could happen in Japan at that time either, no facilities operating, and not nearly enough coal or gas to fuel them.

    • @johnye4433
      @johnye4433 Місяць тому +4

      @@sommebuddy basically nobody knew Japan would need the scraps in a few years, at that time, yes, they rather disposed of them thinking Japan would be put back to an agricultural country

  • @CAPTAINBAZOOKA-wn5by
    @CAPTAINBAZOOKA-wn5by Місяць тому +163

    what a waste..........................................today a museum would die to have some of that stuff

    • @leslieleung1564
      @leslieleung1564 Місяць тому

      Museum has their own collection.

    • @rad4579
      @rad4579 Місяць тому +1

      @@leslieleung1564 Some do.

    • @Stella1971
      @Stella1971 Місяць тому +3

      If you want to let the snake live you might want to defang it.

    • @dannyblaze915
      @dannyblaze915 Місяць тому +8

      I guess they weren't thinking about what where you gonna think in 2024

  • @SpreadEagled
    @SpreadEagled Місяць тому +48

    Those Arisaka rifles would have been very desirable for historical firearms collectors today! 🇯🇵

    • @Grandizer8989
      @Grandizer8989 22 дні тому

      Yup. Especially the later war ones made of cheaper wood

  • @raskolnikov9067
    @raskolnikov9067 Місяць тому +52

    I wonder what all that equipment would be worth today if they had kept it and stored it properly.

    • @ttnyny
      @ttnyny Місяць тому +18

      The cost of proper storage over 80 years would overwhelm its current market value. There's no intrinsic value in outmoded military equipment other than its scrap value. It has value to collectors - a limited market - and much of that value is driven by scarcity. If the contents of warehouses full of, say, a particular model of 1940s field gun comes onto the market, the value of the gun plummets.

    • @SpartacusColo
      @SpartacusColo 17 днів тому

      @@ttnyny I bought a Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifle from Big 5 back when they were $100. I want to say that was 15-20 years ago. The same rifles are going for five-times that, now. The SKS rifles which were $80 back in the 80's, can go for over a grand if they are Russian. But value is well beyond money: the rifle of our defeated enemy in WW II would be quite valuable in a number of ways. Plus, were an entrepreneur to have acted on those captured rifles, they likely would have gone straight to market following the war, and NOT merely into storage.

  • @Dog.soldier1950
    @Dog.soldier1950 Місяць тому +37

    The volume of war material post war was astronomical both in Europe and Asia to include the Axis and the allies. My late father-in-law was an Ordnance officer in occupied Japan during the Post Korean War era and supervised surplus sales. The major end items and other material took many years to dispose of, mostly to the Japanese

    • @pexxajohannes1506
      @pexxajohannes1506 Місяць тому

      Not in Soviet Union who gave ALL Jap weapons to communist insurgents. Destroying perfectly good ordnance instead of arming Americas allies is just American stupidity power to 10.

    • @ClovisPoint
      @ClovisPoint Місяць тому +2

      those pics of hundreds of jeeps ,dodges ,WLAs in Japan

  • @ZebraAfrica
    @ZebraAfrica Місяць тому +32

    The steel should have been melted down to make new steel products.
    Tank engines etc could have been made use of to power equipment.
    Look at things and think of reusing them. Will save a lot of money.

    • @pamtnman1515
      @pamtnman1515 28 днів тому

      Military is designed to break things, and unfortunately military was put in charge of managing the outcome

    • @cuentaprincipal3225
      @cuentaprincipal3225 15 днів тому

      bro... was the start of the cold war... plenty of money for weapons

  • @ijjdyuichi
    @ijjdyuichi Місяць тому +24

    うちの亡きなった爺さんが済州島で終戦を迎えました。済州島の当時の映像は初めて見ました。武器は一部海洋投棄していたのですね。

    • @alcohol_soju_drunk1218
      @alcohol_soju_drunk1218 Місяць тому

      아깝습니다. 50년도의 전쟁에서 한국인들은 일본도에 육탄공격으로 소련제 T-34에 맞서싸워야했습니다

    • @The_Conspiracy_Analyst
      @The_Conspiracy_Analyst 20 днів тому

      済州島はひどいところです! そこでは奇妙な動物の遠吠えが絶え間なく聞こえます。また、落雷も頻繁に起こります。 嵐がないときでも。 それは危険を生み、何もすることができません。 恐ろしいですね!

  • @4thforcon426
    @4thforcon426 Місяць тому +17

    As a milsurp collector, it makes me wanna cry.

  • @richardstark9216
    @richardstark9216 Місяць тому +92

    My father, who served aboard the Essex class carrier USS Bunker Hill. The ship, after repairs to kamikaze damage, assigned to "Magic Carpet" duty to return US servicemen after the end of hostilities. On homeward bound the ship dumped tens of thousands of gallons of aviation fuel into the ocean. They had no aircraft aboard and the fuel was surplus. Your taxes at work.

    • @warren3967
      @warren3967 Місяць тому

      What a fucken stupid thing to say. It was war, maybe you forgot. What were they supposed to do? Bring the fuel back and which would have cost more than to dump it. Your ignorance is stupefying.

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd Місяць тому +4

      You're complaining about something from 80+ years ago? How is it relevant? You're upset about the wasting of tax dollars? You picked *that* as your example?!

    • @babuzzard6470
      @babuzzard6470 Місяць тому +6

      The greenies would have a heart attack these days.

    • @waynemanning3262
      @waynemanning3262 Місяць тому +5

      ⁠@@iatsdnothing in this film is relevant today, so why are you watching this? He brought up the point how incredibly wasteful the government was then.

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd Місяць тому

      @@waynemanning3262 So what was the point of "Your tax dollars at work"? It's either talking about now, in which case it's non-sensical, or it's talking about then, in which case it's equally non-sensical given there was a world fvcking war going on.
      In short, the post made no sense. The new question is why are you defending stupid?

  • @LMHS63John
    @LMHS63John Місяць тому +15

    My Father served on Saipan, Tinian and Guam during and after the Japanese surrender during WW-2. He said all the equipment that was stored for the land invasion of Japan that never came was loaded onto ships placed over the Mariannas Trench and sunk by Navy fighter planes. Too expensive to bring all the way back to the USA was the reason.

    • @gerardpoltawsky4656
      @gerardpoltawsky4656 Місяць тому

      i read an interesting fact , that all the equipment for the invasion of japan went to indo china to fuel the next war in vietnam to help the french for the rubber

    • @metivs
      @metivs 27 днів тому

      now it all makes sense.

  • @scottw550
    @scottw550 Місяць тому +18

    I remember reading somewhere that some brand-new American WWII fighters were also tossed into the ocean and some planes went straight from the assembly line to the scrap heap.

    • @LookinThePastWarArchives
      @LookinThePastWarArchives  Місяць тому +6

      Lot's of brand new B-24s were flying from the factory to the scrapyard when the war ended.

    • @egosumhomovespertilionem
      @egosumhomovespertilionem 24 дні тому +6

      Absolutely true. My farther, a lieutenant commander in the U.S. Navy Seabees, witnessed brand-spanking new F4U Corsairs, F4F Hellcats, and TBF Avengers being pushed off the flight deck of a carrier to make room for returning soldiers, sailors and Marines during Operation Magic Carpet. We liquidated an amazing amount (billions of dollars worth) of vehicles and equipment at war's end. Most of the aircraft would soon be completely obsolescent in the jet age, and much of the equipment was surplus to post-war needs. My dad spent an extra year in the Pacific after the war, liquidating surplus construction equipment, including bulldozers, backhoes, graders, dump trucks, etc. Initially sold to our wartime allies for pennies on the dollar of the original production cost, they were later just given away to any friendly country that could arrange transport to come and get them from whatever island on which they were located. As for surplus and captured, weapons and equipment, there were hundreds of millions of dollars, if not billions, in wasted steel, aluminum and other valuable metals that could have been used to rebuild Japan, China, etc., but in the mindset of the post-war American economy it was thought better to just make everything new from scratch to promote full employment of the American labor force. And if we were destroying American surplus, it was even easier to just throw Japanese equipment, ammunition, etc., into the ocean as part of disarming the Japanese. Almost zero thought of recycling in contrast to the wartime economy. Crazy stuff.

    • @JoeBlow-fp5ng
      @JoeBlow-fp5ng 17 днів тому +1

      @@egosumhomovespertilionem War is nothing but a waste.

    • @ousou78
      @ousou78 15 днів тому

      What a waste, could they not be repurposed as civilian liners across the world?
      Selling them low rather than just getting scrap métal could have spread US soft power not just in Western Europe.

    • @egosumhomovespertilionem
      @egosumhomovespertilionem 15 днів тому +1

      @@ousou78 There was no practical use for the thousands of single-engine fighter, dive bomber and torpedo bomber aircraft used by the U.S. Navy during WWII -- they had no substantial passenger or cargo capacity. On the other hand, thousands of C-47s (military version of the DC-3) survived the war and continued in military or civilian service for decades after the war -- some are still flying today. When I was a child growing up in Florida in the 1970s and 1980s, there was at least one regional airline that was using several dozen DC-3s to fly passengers between the major international airports in Tampa, Orlando and Miami and several smaller cities in the state.

  • @ericUtr
    @ericUtr Місяць тому +73

    woow.... the stupidity of dumping all that in the sea in a time that the world needed so much for rebuilding. Humanity is daft.....

    • @funkymonkey2k425
      @funkymonkey2k425 Місяць тому +20

      i'm sure theres an angle to this where the americans wanted to humiliate the japanese by making them destroy their own equipment

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +15

      @@funkymonkey2k425 Wrong. It was part of the armistice that Japan was responsible for destroying the equipment. The Americans are "helping" and making sure they carry it out.

    • @funkymonkey2k425
      @funkymonkey2k425 Місяць тому +9

      @@obsidianjane4413 i see, i still like to think the americans got some satisfaction from being the ones to monitor them

    • @pantsmcgee
      @pantsmcgee Місяць тому +13

      The fuel you'd have to burn to get all of this anywhere it could be processed would be more useful than the materials you'd recover from recycling. On top of that, in the grand scheme of things, this is very little. A single scrapped destroyer or sloop would yield hundreds of times more steel than this, and there were hundreds of them going into reserve waiting to be scrapped at the end of the war. While there were shortages and a lot required for rebuilding post war, any disruptions that existed were being caused by logistics (the ability to transport materials to where they needed to go, and the labour required for rebuilding), not overall supply.

    • @stevendeitrich6933
      @stevendeitrich6933 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@pantsmcgeeDo you realize Japan imported scrap steel all the way from America before the war & after ? They had no domestic source of steel . This was just total waste

  • @ClovisPoint
    @ClovisPoint Місяць тому +15

    The amount of stuff just mindlessly dumped in the ocean and destroyed ,those tanks could have gone to Museums ,the ocean treated like a free waste dump, in later years radioactive materials etc ,a fellow I knew said after the War his father stayed back in New Guinea and for 4 months, loaded ships and dumped material in the ocean ,everything ,backwards and forwards just dumping material ,tents ,cooking equipment ,munitions ,parts ,everything

    • @pokachan3451
      @pokachan3451 Місяць тому +3

      my grandfather was slow to be demobilised from the Australian army as he too was involved in massive disposals at Bougainville

    • @慕容邀月
      @慕容邀月 Місяць тому +2

      那時候沒有環境保護概念

    • @kaptainkaos1202
      @kaptainkaos1202 22 дні тому

      A museum? The war was just ended! Do you really think anyone who had probably seen their shipmates killed by the Japanese wanted a museum? No, they wanted to ensure these monsters couldn’t do it again.

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa Місяць тому +19

    The pragmatist in me says that equipment can all be salvaged and resold for a profit for the US but I don’t think they were thinking that way. It’s more like vengeance. They want all that equipment destroyed forever.

    • @johnye4433
      @johnye4433 Місяць тому +1

      The Japanese industries were wrecked, so it was not possible to processed weapons at that time. The U.S. had overcapacity of ships too, so they sank them as well.

    • @The_Conspiracy_Analyst
      @The_Conspiracy_Analyst 20 днів тому

      Well, realisitically at that time any equipment potentially marketed had to at least be up to standards of new Soviet equipment that was already on the drawing boards. A client state's army would need stuff to match that. And this Japanese stuff was already somewhat dated. So it had limited marketability.

  • @unclexeres
    @unclexeres Місяць тому +40

    Destroying the Japanese ability to wage War even after their surrender was not just a means to humiliation but instrumental in ensuring there was no way there was going to be an insurrection against the occupation.

    • @joshuapopoff9225
      @joshuapopoff9225 Місяць тому +10

      I’m sure the fish appreciated that all that crap was being dumped in their home! No wonder we’ve destroyed our environment!

    • @joseortiz3582
      @joseortiz3582 Місяць тому +2

      It happens in many wars. There are photos of Germany WW1 planes & blimps destroyed after surrender [turn into scrap], & WW2 German helmets also turned into scraps. Who knows if some Ford's 1959 Edsel screw was once part of a Nazi WW2 helmet?🙂

    • @モグ太郎-m7m
      @モグ太郎-m7m Місяць тому

      韓国にこの武器を渡していたら、北朝鮮の侵略に対する有効手段に成り得た。アメリカ政府の平和ボケ。

    • @CurlyBill-78
      @CurlyBill-78 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@joshuapopoff9225found the hippie tree hugger

    • @64maxpower
      @64maxpower 27 днів тому

      The Japanese Military seems pretty capable of waging war 80 years later

  • @bessie2275
    @bessie2275 Місяць тому +12

    I have been to Jeju island twice, amazing, fantastic scenery.

  • @kriley9386
    @kriley9386 Місяць тому +10

    Dear Look, Thanks for not adding extraneous comments or inappropriate sound.

  • @lerouge4461
    @lerouge4461 Місяць тому +18

    Enough to make collectors weep.

  • @itikey
    @itikey Місяць тому +39

    溶かして再利用すればよかったのに!

    • @AOP1967
      @AOP1967 Місяць тому +3

      Totalmente de acuerdo contigo.

    • @itikey
      @itikey Місяць тому +2

      @@AOP1967 gracias

  • @0159ralph
    @0159ralph Місяць тому +20

    I wonder how many Toyotas and Datsuns were made out of the scap metal

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang Місяць тому +7

    Not too long after salvage and wreck hunters would be scouring the Pacific for whatever was left.Lae and Nadzab airfields were littered with aircraft that today would be worth millions but they were scrapped.

  • @ニゴイスキー
    @ニゴイスキー Місяць тому +5

    In this time, US Occupation authority did not consider constructing South Korean Army with Japanese weapons?
    Meanwhile, North Korean Army was constructed with Japanese and Soviet weapons by Soviet Occupation authority.

  • @molanlabexm15
    @molanlabexm15 Місяць тому +30

    All those Arisakas…

    • @markcollins919
      @markcollins919 Місяць тому +1

      And alot of those ended up in US households in the late 40s when the occupation forces came home. They made playing army great. They were plugged and the chrysanthemum was filed off the receiver. So were Samurai swords.

    • @peteloomis8456
      @peteloomis8456 29 днів тому

      ​@@markcollins919A friend of mine in the late 70s his father was in WW2 and he somehow brought one of these rifle back home after the war ended and he showed the rifle to me and it was in very good shape still . It had no plugged barrel and the bolt still functioned like it should as well as the trigger when cocking the bolt back & pulling the trigger and the firing pin knob would would go forward . If he could have found some ammunition for it I'm positive it would still have fully functioned and shot . His dad never talked about that war or when after WW2 he joined the Army and caught in the Korean war as he was a Marine during WW2 but many years later he showed us pictures of the dead japs he killed along with a Japanese flag he had brought home from the war that had blood stains on it that he shot & killed . I found out he died some years ago & he is buried at the Fort Snelling MN military cemetery that also has soldiers from the 1800s buried in the cemetery being the Fort was built to help keep peace in the area when there were a lot of Indians that were causing issues that were killing people back then probably because they were mad that the white man had stolen their land . Look up Schells brewery in MN which has been around for a long long time & see why they didn't get burned out & killed by the local Indians in that area of MN where they slaughtered many white people in that area bit left the brewery and people who worked at the brewery alone lol . I took the tour of this brewery many years ago twice and have 2 cedar boxes I bought from them that came with a beer mug that they have someone make at the brewery to sell as souvenirs but like I said look up why the Indians didn't kill or burn the brewery down because it will make you laugh a little & it has something to do with a lot of old western movies where the Indians liked to drink fire water lol .

  • @mdmarko
    @mdmarko Місяць тому +11

    Interestingly, Cheju Island, now part of the Republic of Korea, produces large quantities of tangerines. Ate many of them during two tours in that country.

  • @FRIEND_711
    @FRIEND_711 Місяць тому +5

    Those tanks belong to the Independent 14th tank company, usually consistents of 100 personal and eleven tanks. (Here there's 12. (Type-97 Chi-Ha Old turret x6 new turret x5 +1 unknown, maybe old turret but hard to tell.)
    Thank you for posting this! Researching Japanese tank units and their exact consistency is hard and this video helped with at least one unit!

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому +1

      Some sources state that towards the end of the war, each independent tank company was equipped with one Chi-He Type 1 medium tank.
      However, there is no official documentation to back this up.

    • @FRIEND_711
      @FRIEND_711 Місяць тому

      @@かこうえん-l4l I don't think there's any evidence to back that up at all I'm afraid.
      Here most likely all of them are Type-97s and 14 was the last ITC the imperial army had.
      The 1st fought in Guadalcanal. 3rd & 4th fought in Saipan.
      7~12th fought in the Philippines. All these before the Chi-He was deployed for units.
      The 2,5 and 6th are said to be stationed in the Chishima islands but I found no combat record or any records about them, they kind of vanished sadly.
      And finally the 13th which was in Kagoshima and has the highest likely hood of having a Chi-He since another unit in the same prefecture, the 6th Independent tank brigade were armed with Chi-He's.
      However this one has confirmation that it was only armed with 9 light tanks. (Unknown if only Ha-Go or mix with Ke-Nu's)
      It's possible that the original source confused the two. The ITC and the ITB.

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому

      @@FRIEND_711 Production of the Chi-He began in February 1944, and 145 tanks were produced by August 1944.
      It would have been possible to send the Chi-He to Luzon.
      This was the time when the most Japanese merchant ships were sunk by American submarines.
      Some of the platoons of the independent tank companies sent to Luzon did not arrive, and the companies were merged and reorganized.
      The American attack on Luzon in the Philippines began in January 1945, so there was plenty of time.
      On July 17, 1944, the Japanese Army suffered a major blow when six ships were sunk, including the Zinzan Maru, carrying the advance platoon of the 8th Independent Tank Company, the Shozan Maru, carrying the main force of the 10th Independent Tank Company, and the Nichizan Maru, carrying the vehicles of the 12th Independent Tank Company.
      Nine men were killed in the 8th Company, 43 men including the company commander were killed in the 10th Company, and four men were killed in the 12th Company.

    • @FRIEND_711
      @FRIEND_711 Місяць тому +1

      @@かこうえん-l4l yes technically yes but by that logic the Chi-Nu had time to see action in Okinawa.
      I know that not all the tanks made it and the reorganization was a cluster F*ck and a half.
      But none show that they had Chi-He's.
      Not on the reports or records. Only one testimonial by one of the survivors but that was probably a misunderstanding like how the 7th tank regiment was thought to be armed with Chi-He's because their crews called the Chi-Ha Kai's Type-1s. Since they were carrying the type-1 47mm tank gun.

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому

      @@FRIEND_711 "帝国陸海軍の戦闘用車両 戦車マガジン1992年4月号別冊"
      This book describes a Chi-He turret mounted on a Chi-Ha chassis, photographed after the US military occupied Luzon.

  • @osamunagaya1739
    @osamunagaya1739 Місяць тому +21

    Russian army brought back everything in the occupied Europe, while Americans dumped weapons in the ocean.
    When the Korean War broke out, the South Korean army had just run away.
    Some newly born armies in southern Asia have resisted the comeback of the old colonial forces with weapons the Japanese left.
    .

    • @robertslugg8361
      @robertslugg8361 Місяць тому +3

      The best story I heard was that Russian soldiers brought back toilets from Germany without understanding that they needed plumbing to actually work.

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому +7

      朝鮮戦争中に米軍から日本の工場へ「航空機用の強力な機関砲を作れますか?」と依頼がありました。
      日本人の技術者は次のように答えました。
      「武器の製造に使える工作機械はあなたたちが全て破壊したか没収したので作れるわけがありません」

    • @モグ太郎-m7m
      @モグ太郎-m7m Місяць тому

      関東軍の技術者は八路軍に協力した人もいました。
      中華人民共和国成立後に帰国した人々は洗脳されたと差別され、帰国後はまともな職業にはつけませんでした。
      大日本帝国のアジア解放が嘘っぱちであった事が露見しました。

    • @モグ太郎-m7m
      @モグ太郎-m7m Місяць тому

      ​@@かこうえん-l4lアメリカの依頼は弾薬とトラックがメインでしたが、軍服、軍靴を始めトイレットペーパーまで求めていました。

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому +1

      @@モグ太郎-m7m 私のコメント先だった「日本には技術者がいなかった」と書いた人はそのコメントを消去したようです

  • @itsconnorstime
    @itsconnorstime Місяць тому +4

    3:47 so this is where the boating accident gun meme came from.

  • @apergiel
    @apergiel Місяць тому +2

    Nice. Truly interesting. History classes may want to start with movies such as this, cemeteries of the war dead and interviews of surviving family members.

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis Місяць тому +6

    Today such a waste of material would be seen as heretical, let's alone the whole "enviromental" stuff of dumping all these things in the ocean !
    Naturally there was a motive for these things, the US Army wanted to get rid of all these weapons in the fastest way possible, once I read in the '70s that there were yet a lot of B24/25 abandoned in some areas of the Pacific, because at the end of the war would've been too costly sending them back in the USA.

    • @Teh0X
      @Teh0X Місяць тому +3

      At some point in the war, American units were able to get replacement aircraft so quickly that repairing the worn and damaged became waste of time.

  • @berteisenbraun7415
    @berteisenbraun7415 Місяць тому +15

    Holy cow that stuff would be worth millions today.

    • @joereedsmith1531
      @joereedsmith1531 Місяць тому

      People are diving and recovering such things. The chinese are salvaging WW2 Ships for the metal, name a famous WW2 wreck and its now gone thanks to the chinese, War Grave means nothing to them. HMAS Perth was found and now its gone the Indonesians have stolen the lot. HMAS Sydney and Kormoran the chinese have taken.

    • @StoopidFishRacing
      @StoopidFishRacing Місяць тому

      not nearly what it would have cost to store it all these years...

    • @Jreb1865
      @Jreb1865 Місяць тому +1

      @@StoopidFishRacing Wrong...

    • @The_Conspiracy_Analyst
      @The_Conspiracy_Analyst 20 днів тому +1

      @@StoopidFishRacing People mindlessly and senselessly repeat this. Why? Not everywhere price gouges you for storage. I have been to warehouses in the Philippines that were full of M1 Garands, M3 Grease guns, M-14s and other stuff. New in cosmoline.

  • @michaelrainone296
    @michaelrainone296 Місяць тому +4

    Wow!! I wonder if that location could be or has been found??!!! Depending on the depth,a barge with a scrapyard type magnet or grapple could score some real good old equipment.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 Місяць тому +2

      you do know that the ocean is SALT WATER?

    • @michaelrainone296
      @michaelrainone296 Місяць тому

      @Sshooter444 Ya but if it's deep enough maybe just maybe that delays deterioration.Then again maybe I'm nuts😂😂😂.

    • @peteloomis8456
      @peteloomis8456 29 днів тому

      ​@@michaelrainone296As long as there isn't any oxygen in the water metal still can survive for long periods of time even in salt water as long as it's kept submerged but the salt definitely doesn't help it at all .

  • @davidyoung8521
    @davidyoung8521 Місяць тому +50

    War is such a waste.

    • @braxxian
      @braxxian Місяць тому +8

      Yes it is. And in the end it always ends up pointless.

    • @treystephens6166
      @treystephens6166 Місяць тому

      @@braxxianjust a bunch of money and lives wasted every time

    • @RCRWJR
      @RCRWJR Місяць тому +1

      weapons of war use to kill and destroy why so dumb

  • @ericsonhazeltine5064
    @ericsonhazeltine5064 Місяць тому +3

    Some great collectors’ items there.

  • @xjuliussx
    @xjuliussx Місяць тому +32

    such a waste, everything could have been melted and converted to help recover the country industry and pay for the war debts.

    • @nicklansing22
      @nicklansing22 Місяць тому +2

      Saishu is an island hundreds of miles from mainland Japan and 100 from Korea.

    • @WgCdrLuddite
      @WgCdrLuddite Місяць тому

      The US military has never cared about being profligate.

    • @Conradlovesjoy
      @Conradlovesjoy Місяць тому +1

      That’s not how it works at all. Scraping tanks is nearly impossible.

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому +9

      @@Conradlovesjoy 1958年に開業した東京タワーの資材には、朝鮮戦争でスクラップになったアメリカ陸軍の戦車が使われました。

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Місяць тому +1

      There was a huge glut of steel in the post war years. It would have cost more money and resources needed for reconstruction to haul that small amount of scrap where it could be recycled.

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 Місяць тому +4

    Considering the amount of scrap that was sent from around the world for Japan's steel industry (it had no coal ), it could have been melted down again.. One thinks of all those 'only factory run' aero engines produced in Australia and then dumped in the oggin.

    • @ニゴイスキー
      @ニゴイスキー Місяць тому

      Japan have coal, it was mined domestrically until about 1960.
      Certainly, Japan has no iron ore.

  • @revolutionhamburger
    @revolutionhamburger Місяць тому +2

    Imagine thinking you'd not need these weapons of war anymore for the next war after just fighting the big war.

  • @書いても基本返信見ません
    @書いても基本返信見ません 29 днів тому +3

    残して置いて欲しかったな。

  • @retepeyahaled2961
    @retepeyahaled2961 Місяць тому +8

    I guess it was the best thing to do. You can hardly expect American GI's to meticulously tear all equipment apart, sort the materials, set up logistical chains and build factories to melt the different metals... and then transport it to the US? Sounds awefully expensive to me. Or leave it to the Japanese to do the work? You take a big risk leaving all those weapons in the hands of your former enemy. Still a terrible waste, though.

  • @tb7771
    @tb7771 22 дні тому

    As a WW2 collector since the 70's this makes me sad.

  • @mikewolf417
    @mikewolf417 Місяць тому +3

    We are looking at these films of the destruction of Japanese war materials with 21st century eyes but back in 1945 there was so many weapons left they didn't look at them with historical artifacts in mind, they just wanted to destroy them so they couldn't ever be used again. We did it with Germany also and in America brand new B-17's and B-24's were flown from the factories brand new and sent right to the boneyards. War is such a waste but thinking about it on what we know today how much of the equipment dumped in the oceans harmed the reefs and marine life. Today when we sink a ship to make it a reef, such as the carrier Oriskany, millions was spent on scraping that ship of any harmful properties, wiring and even paint scraping so the ship wouldn't destroy marine life through chemical pollution. Nothing was done like that in 1945 to 1948. Just a thought.

    • @gerardpoltawsky4656
      @gerardpoltawsky4656 Місяць тому

      upstate ny has a town called oriskany the anchor and war monument there

  • @nattyn199
    @nattyn199 Місяць тому

    With all that gear, just imagine the carnage and casualties that would have occurred on both side if an invasion of the home islands had happened

  • @jjhays36
    @jjhays36 Місяць тому

    I live in South Korea and have been to Jeju many times. Interesting.

  • @tomd864
    @tomd864 Місяць тому

    I have 1 of those rifles and bayonets that survived the war. Actually I have weapons from most of the countries involved in the war.

  • @masaset
    @masaset Місяць тому +1

    今でも飛べるBF109やタイガー戦車がドイツ軍装備品として残存したのに、、同じ瓶の蓋でもえらい違いだな

  • @atlanticrf
    @atlanticrf 19 днів тому

    What people do not consider is the American servicemen wanted to return home after the war. It was also a big political force. So, who exactly wanted to hang around some crappy place to recycle or rebuild obsolete equipment?

  • @sanclementekid
    @sanclementekid 21 день тому

    My father went to Manchuria in 1945 after the war and he was with USMC troops who demobilized the Japanese troops.

  • @PRR5406
    @PRR5406 21 день тому

    I tend to think of the brass, bronze, and copper alone. The steel was recyclable, but not particularly valuable. Consider the amount of precious metals scattered along the Pacific Ocean floor from combat losses, then consider the Atlantic. It would be worth billions in today's market, but more expensive to retrieve it using today's technology. Post 1945,the allies had so much unused surplus, we could buy anything from real Surplus stores. It's a hellish waste, but war is always a stupid, hellish waste of life and machinery.

  • @leo77672001
    @leo77672001 22 дні тому

    I agree , waste of scrap metal 🪙 what were they thinking 🤔

  • @863rafael
    @863rafael 16 днів тому

    Now you know where they dumped it!

  • @kevinedwards7206
    @kevinedwards7206 Місяць тому +4

    not only a waste of resources but also..
    imagine all the carbon and heat/ soot released just during WWII alone.

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer8989 22 дні тому

    4:54 an artist could’ve made an anti war display out of those rifles

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 Місяць тому

    The Japanese had been planning, and acting on that plan, to fight on in the mountains and cities during the invasion of Japan. Significant amounts of war material had been stored in sheltered places.

  • @mlovmo
    @mlovmo 23 дні тому

    From the perspective of the South Korean military, this was a waste. That equipment and its ammo (minus the Chi-Ha tanks) would have been useful at the beginning of the Korean War since the Korean Army still used Japanese infantry weapons in addition to U.S. weapons.

  • @rodneywatson7855
    @rodneywatson7855 19 днів тому +1

    What an absolute crying shame. All that stuff is now worth a fortune in the collectable market. Was no need at all to do that, they could have just stored the stuff, geez what ding bats.

  • @z80softcard
    @z80softcard Місяць тому

    A tragedy like Okinawa almost happened in Jeju Island.

  • @sengodebu
    @sengodebu Місяць тому +2

    あああああ燃えてく…

  • @ZebraAfrica
    @ZebraAfrica Місяць тому +7

    South Korea asked the US for weapons as they were aware of the USSR was equipping North Korea with tanks and aircraft.
    The US said no. Some of this stuff would have been very welcome to South Korea.
    North Korea almost took the whole of South Korea when they attacked due to the lake of weapons in the South.
    Funny how during and after WWII, the USSR kept outsmarting the USA & UK.

    • @Sshooter444
      @Sshooter444 Місяць тому

      we gave S Korea our stuff, they are not fond of the Japanese

  • @bw2442
    @bw2442 23 дні тому

    So much could be recycled. Out of work people were everywhere. Tanks could be modified for farm work.

  • @jerrymiller8313
    @jerrymiller8313 19 днів тому

    Truman ordered the destruction of many c-47s (DC-3) because he wanted the airplane companies have a market for new planes. The other factor was cost of shipping scrap back to factories that were set up to recycle the material. Another factor was getting rid of small arms that could be a potential threat if Japan's warlike group gained some more political power.

  • @johnschofield9496
    @johnschofield9496 Місяць тому

    Sure hate to see all the personal arms being tossed !

  • @marcm4268
    @marcm4268 Місяць тому

    I would like to buy this material. Is it still on the market, or at the bottom of the sea? 🌊 3:22 ohhh god! I can’t watch!

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch3894 29 днів тому

    What a shame!It would be worth millions for collectors...

  • @duartesimoes508
    @duartesimoes508 Місяць тому

    _Legacy Collectibles_ would have bought the whole stock! 😀

  • @ilganis
    @ilganis Місяць тому +1

    why so brutal destroying valuable guns lmgs rifles

  • @MarkH10
    @MarkH10 20 днів тому

    We all have heard of "No money down" real estate. The US had so many thousands of Liberty ships that many Greeks, including Ari Onassis made a deal with the Surplus Department to take ships for nothing, and pay over time. He became the richest guy in the world by the early 60's due to that program.
    The US has done that a few times. When ever the US has a sudden tragic surplus, make them a deal. Aim big.

  • @ericlundquist3466
    @ericlundquist3466 24 дні тому

    damn.... that's a massive waste of resources . x this by how many times this has happened from ships being purposely sunk or equipment in different theaters of war and wars in general., we humans are dumb as hell.

  • @꿀단지-b7j
    @꿀단지-b7j 17 днів тому

    와.. 제주도 영상;;

  • @kiwi6444
    @kiwi6444 20 днів тому

    No environmental issues back then.

  • @LafayetteCCurtis
    @LafayetteCCurtis Місяць тому

    If the Allies had known what would happen five years later, I'm pretty sure they would have been eager to use the ex-Japanese equipment to build up the ROKA. Even the obsolete tanks could have had their turrets removed and repurposed in pillboxes around the few viable routes across the 38th.

    • @thevenizer3640
      @thevenizer3640 Місяць тому

      This was filmed in what is now Jeju island in formerly Japanese-occupied South Korea. There were supposedly a lot of communist sympathizers on Jeju during the late 1940s. Tensions were building up even before the Korean War started and many communists were arrested or executed by the South Korean military.

    • @LafayetteCCurtis
      @LafayetteCCurtis Місяць тому

      @@thevenizer3640 Would all the equipment have come from Jeju, though? Sounds like it was more of an intermediate collection point for stuff from much of the American half of the peninsula instead. The existence of a Communist insurgency would have made all the more reason for the US to support anti-Communist forces much in the same way they enabled Syngman Rhee’s and later right-wing dictatorships. Note also that their stance towards the Indonesian independence movement seems to have shifted after the rump Indonesian government suppressed a Communist uprising in 1948 (well, more of an internal army conflict that spiralled out of control with the Communists free-riding, but close enough).

    • @thevenizer3640
      @thevenizer3640 Місяць тому

      @@LafayetteCCurtis There doesn't seem to be much information on the disposal, so it's very possible they came from different locations.

  • @joemiller9931
    @joemiller9931 Місяць тому

    What a waste- scrap metal that could be recycled or weapons that could be given to our allies.

  • @peterjones7895
    @peterjones7895 25 днів тому

    Don't forget about the russians. They could have moved in there taken all that equipment. The risk was too high to leave it. Have you noticed what happened to all the lend lease equipment hidden in the mines in ukraine for eighty years. It has been used to fuel a war.

  • @jean-jacquessaussey5697
    @jean-jacquessaussey5697 Місяць тому

    la mer, un cimetière et une poubelle...

  • @jimsmith9819
    @jimsmith9819 Місяць тому +1

    look at the air pollution

  • @MinhNguyen-cn8kx
    @MinhNguyen-cn8kx 25 днів тому

    Fantastico saishu... Respect from Vietnam... Allahu akhbar.

  • @DexterBanks5555
    @DexterBanks5555 22 дні тому

    What a stupid thing to do. They couldve sold those equipment for cheap to third world countries who need to defend themselves or use the scrap metal.

  • @am.jerman5854
    @am.jerman5854 Місяць тому

    Kenapa di hancurkan ya. Kenapa tidak d lebur lagi jadi alat2 yg laen

  • @FRANCISPOLLARD-r3p
    @FRANCISPOLLARD-r3p 23 дні тому

    Looking at the faces of the Japanese soldiers and wondering if there was no war, they could have been friends with the Americans. Same holds true for the Germans. After WWI. the English Soldiers got to meet the German Soldiers in Europe and discovered that they were pretty much the same kind of good people. It is in a British Documentary and interview of a British soldier.
    We are forced to fight for Kings, Queens, Politicians and Bankers of the Tribe who run our countries. Today, Israel bombed Iran, but warned Iran not to protect itself and attack back. So, Iran has no right to fight back. The US Navy, Air Force and Marines are ready at the behest of Israel's orders. We are suckers. We are a Smuck.

  • @MASTER3RDEYE
    @MASTER3RDEYE 20 днів тому

    That so stupid. The equipment could have been scrapped. US military leadership is dumb.

  • @wilburross9709
    @wilburross9709 26 днів тому

    The war was over and everyone was sick of it. This was all Japanese war junk and nobody wanted it; we built better stuff at home ourselves. To all of the crying collectors, look at it this way: This just makes all of your junk rarer, more exclusive and more valuable! Also notice no Samurai swords were pitched-those were about the only souvenirs from the Pacific war that had any value.

  • @majorronaldmandell7835
    @majorronaldmandell7835 Місяць тому +2

    I wonder where that equipment was captured? Must be in Japan itself, since there is so much of it, and the tanks look undamaged?

    • @dave.of.the.forrest
      @dave.of.the.forrest Місяць тому +5

      According to the title, this stuff would've belonged to the Japanese occupation forces on Jeju-do Island off the southern coast of Korea.

    • @majorronaldmandell7835
      @majorronaldmandell7835 Місяць тому +1

      @@dave.of.the.forrest : Thanks! I missed that! Sure is a lot of it! Those Japanese soldiers were also vey lucky. They basically missed the war, stationed on that island. No combat. No slaughter. No jungle diseases. No starvation.

  • @markjohnson429
    @markjohnson429 18 днів тому

    Why are the Japanese doing the work? Was this forced labor?

  • @heermannmorrer
    @heermannmorrer День тому

    They could have given this to Chiang Kai Sheks Chinese Nationalists fighting ahainst the communists the same time.
    Lack of equipment was ome of the factors why the Nationalists lost the Chinese Civil war,they could have used this stuff very well and were in dire need of it.

  • @hiramabiff2017
    @hiramabiff2017 Місяць тому

    What a time to be a scrap metal dealer. Can you imagine the opportunities the was to ern a fortune.

  • @joeedwards627
    @joeedwards627 16 днів тому

    Never understood destroying stuff, keep it, re-use it, just stupid, uk government crushes untaxed cars!?? Auction them for charity, give them to the third world… etc etc, always stupid people around it would seem

  • @64maxpower
    @64maxpower 27 днів тому

    Had they known these weapons could have been sent to Ukraine

  • @garciavelert
    @garciavelert 26 днів тому

    y green peace no dice nada

  • @mikefernandes4054
    @mikefernandes4054 20 днів тому

    And y’all wanna swim in the ocean and look how they used to treat it back in the day! I can’t i marine what’s done there they they never told anyone they was dumping

  • @いいまっせ何だかんだ
    @いいまっせ何だかんだ 16 днів тому

    勿体ない~☺️

  • @青石治郎
    @青石治郎 Місяць тому +1

    今なら、不法投棄です。海洋汚染もいいとこ。それにしても、まだ陸軍にはこんなに兵器が温存されていたとは?

    • @ニゴイスキー
      @ニゴイスキー Місяць тому

      武器はあっても、燃料や弾薬はなかったかもしれません。米軍機や潜水艦が日本の輸送船を見つけ次第に沈めていました。

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому

      @@ニゴイスキー 兵器も弾薬も本土決戦用に備蓄されていました。燃料は数回の作戦で無くなる量でしたが、爆薬や弾薬はアメリカ軍の上陸が想定される地域にはたくさんありました。
      天皇陛下の終戦命令が無ければ、数百万人のアメリカ兵が命を失っていたでしょう。
      戦後にアメリカ軍の少尉の指揮で九州の建設中のトンネルに500トンの爆薬と弾薬を集め焼却を行いました。
      焼却中に爆発が起こり、その山は丘になりました。
      作業員と周辺住民、147人の命も無くなりました。負傷者も149人いました。
      少尉は帰国し軍事裁判の結果「不名誉除隊」になりました。

    • @かこうえん-l4l
      @かこうえん-l4l Місяць тому

      日本陸軍は、沖縄の次は済州島だと思ってたんでしょうね

  • @situationalawarenes
    @situationalawarenes Місяць тому

    Did you see the mass american planes scrapped ?

  • @highvel-kq2to
    @highvel-kq2to 22 дні тому

    rotsa ruck roundeye....

  • @Ivan_Rom-Zap
    @Ivan_Rom-Zap 21 день тому

    Остатки японской гордости

  • @林志誠-q7h
    @林志誠-q7h Місяць тому

    濟州島投降日本軍的裝備被銷毀,
    濟州島投降日本兵, 營養好都吃到好胖,

  • @josephbingham1255
    @josephbingham1255 Місяць тому

    I read they dumped Japanese swords until MacArthur realized the importance of handed down family swords. Capt. Oba who surrendered on Okinawa had his family sword returned to him by the person in Texas who had received it from him back then. Oba's family has it now.

    • @wilburross9709
      @wilburross9709 26 днів тому

      I have seen shows where this was done and I think it is wonderful for them to do it! Some of those swords were family heirlooms, carried into battle by ancestors for centuries. I have seen others where good luck flags, etc. signed by family members and sent with the Japanese soldier were returned from US soldier's families after they had the writing translated and figured out what it was all about. Hopefully part of the healing for everyone involved

  • @kimjensen-m9r
    @kimjensen-m9r 22 дні тому

    Mon det giver et godt bund liv for ikke kuin fisk

  • @adeptasororitas3760
    @adeptasororitas3760 Місяць тому

    Янки любят мусорить.

  • @robertleonhardt1226
    @robertleonhardt1226 Місяць тому

    Destroying???😂

  • @giorgiobranca7056
    @giorgiobranca7056 Місяць тому

    😠

  • @davestrang8585
    @davestrang8585 24 дні тому

    Dumb

  • @bernigunther5804
    @bernigunther5804 Місяць тому +1

    本当に古臭くてオモチャの様な兵器。
    最初から勝てる訳が無い。