Great review as always, one thing good about most fx rifles is the synthetic stock make them very light, which would be great to carry around when hunting, it was nice to meet you both at the daystate experience days 😊
A great honest review as always. I was hoping you would get a DRS to work your magic on. Ive recently bought one in .22 and from the reviews ive seen they weirdly seem to be grouping better than the .177. I bought the darc single shot loader and jb3d adjustable extended butt hook both from ebay which has vastly improved the accuracy of the rifle. Keep up the great work i can't wait to see the upgrades planned and hopefully some might find there way into your ebay shop🙏🏻
Looking forward to a conversion. I was going to buy one but instantly disliked how the breech was disproportionately thinner than the cylinder over the barrel, ruining the lines/overall look for me. Didn't know whether the internals could be reproduced, on my small lathe, to fit a slimmer cylinder and new rifled barrel. It is screaming for a nice wooden stock, and certainly an Air Arms style stock would be super. Shame about dovetails being so short. I imagine 2 or 3 spacers along barrel would help nullify harmonics/POI change.
Shocking accuracy for a rifle that costs 700 quid! Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on it. CZ barrel, and an in-house produced suppressor/shroud perhaps? :)
Thanks for sharing sir. Your videos are so valuable as to all the correct information you share with us. I am really enjoying mine in 177 sub 12. I can't wait for the saber tactical stock soon to be on the market and my rifle. I will also be getting myself the carbon shroud which can then be filled to 250bar. Take care hope you have a great week 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
I've been looking at this gun and have it on my short list but the accuracy is a bit off . I wouldn't spend almost £800 just to shoot a few tin cans and spinners, a gun half that price is more than adequate for that. Thanks for the video, it has helped with my choice making, I don't suppose you have made a review on the BSA scorpion by any chance? much appreciated 😊
Lovely looking rifle, although I think you are being too kind around the accuracy :-) I also think its a 1k rifle when you factor in the pic rail, which is almost a must have........however, a nice fair review on a rifle which has so much promise.....looking forward to the series.
Cracking video as always and you tell it as it is unlike the FX fanboy promoters who claim everything FX is the most accurate thing on the planet, don't get me wrong I think FX come up with some of the most innovative mix of design features around. I have an Impact M3 and it shoots like a laser beam but it took a lot of work and money to make it do that a lot of which was following your advice with a new HFT 500 barrel and an Airmarksman Backbone to make it rigid. I don't know anyone who has had success with the drinking straw liner barrel on any sub 12 rifle, most people I know are very dissapointed at the accuracy for what is normally an expensive bit of kit.
My m3 was a laser out of the box. When i say one hole at 50y... it would put a jsb right in the exact same spot the last one went. You couldnt tell if you actually shot another shot. two or ten shots.. all in the same spot. 75y group opened toi a ragged hole.. 100y the pellets began to spiral and open up to a 2-3" area. Going to slugs for knock down power and consistency over 75y is when things got difficult. But i think people THINK thbey need these mods to shoot slugs at distance.... but in my experience, the modifications had me chasing my tail more than anything. Back to how the gun came and back to the basics... she shoots light 32-34g slugs like a laser. It doesnt and never did need any of the money into parts you think it did. I will say... some liners you get from them are flat shit. they love their stamped barrel liners but i believe they are incredibly inconsistent. Its a lottery... sometimes you win sometimes you lose
Great review, i was thinking of getting 1 in 177 changing the stock to a leftie custom in walnut that would bring the price to over £1000, but to see how unacceptable the grouping are at 30 yards its a no from me,my airarms s200 is still the best light weight original bullpup out there 👍.
nice review👍, always good to see a review outside of the usual FX youtube crowd 😋. I did see in other videos that the drs does not like every pellet, maybe some ammo change would add to that grouping. some questions if you don't mind. did you experience any low shots after resting the rifle? also does the maverick magazine fit with the picatinny mounted?
Looking forward to want you two do this one :) I have tried a club members DRS and really can't say i like the stock it's to short for me :( Was great speaking with you both at the Daystate/BRK Days.
I'm dying to see the barrel liner and shroud matt showed a glimpse and it seems different more ridged because of having to separate liner from air cylinder and something about keeping it free floating they had to come up with something interesting maybe a follow-up on that nobody's shown that yet...
Great video. Not sure if it is a design fault but one thing I am hearing is the DRS can lose power over time. Having had a look at a friends, there doesnt seem to be any locking screw on the hammer spring adjuster. Over time as he was shooting it the vibration caused the HS adjuster to move and, because it is under pressure from the spring, it was slowly unwinding itself. Maybe he just got unlucky with his ????
Liked the design so I bought an Artemis M30 a couple of years ago, might try and make a new barrel for it because it shoots worse than this gun but not to bad for the money. Thanks for sharing another interesting review. Big thumbs up. 👍
I would check the brass thimble at the breech, the leade, rifling and crown first. Even with Chinese barrels I find that most faults are easily fixed with deburring/polishing.
Another great video and one I've been watching out for so thank you..I'm interested to see the improvements you can make to it, as I'm thinking of going for one..The trigger needs sorting can't understand why FX hasn't resolved the sticky trigger. Anyway thank you for the video and looking forward to the next one about the DRS..
@@sub12airgunners Can I ask you a question please..I'm a huge fan of yours and I really enjoy your work..relating to the DRS rifle..Do you think the rifle could be improved if it was worked on by one of the Tuning companies and would it be worth doing? Your opinion would be welcomed. Thanks
I use a Allen Key to rotate the magazine , then hold it to install the pellets as the mag system can be a tad fiddly to rotate with it being a mini mag
Jesus them groups aint great, i used mine at 40 yards with a 3x9 scope which i could barely see the target using jsb heavys and got better groups 🤔 switched to a longer scope now so will try a proper group next outing, i went for the grade 1 walnut, fantastic looking rifle, looking forward to see what work you do to it and maybe try the heavys again, my t12 and drs both like em, seems to be a fx thing, got a link or name for the gauge cover ?, hate the chrome
@@sub12airgunners to be honest I'm really surprised by the grouping my little verminator groups at 50 yards like this one groups at 50 I honestly expected it to be a tack driver 😕
Thanks for the review. Interesting. Got to admit if that was mine I'd be a little disappointed with those results. As already said £750 ish isn't the end of of it when you add on the pic rail etc. Probably better to save up another £2 ,£300 quid and buy something better or buy secondhand and buy something far superior.
Accuracy at 30yrds is just not good enough, if a rifle can’t shoot straight. 🤔 what’s the point of owning it? ? I can’t see many people buying this product to shoot tin cans. Are Fx marketing this rifle as a fun gun / toy? Hopefully they aren’t marketing it as a hunting rifle. Punching paper is one thing, watching a rabbit with a smashed jaw trying to feed is another. Consistency? 🙄. Accuracy , Accuracy, Accuracy, =consistency.
Air arms diablo field pellet wise perform the best, but these really like slugs. I have never liked FX after buying the mk1 crown that was terrible but these group well and accurate but quite pellet fussy
Hi nice video as always but seriously the way that performed is terrible I’ve got an FX Typhoon which shoot’s better than that so I’m shocked that FX have turned out a gun that performs so badly & having seen lots of your videos I know it’s not your shooting that made this gun look bad ,look forward to see if the upgrades make any improvements.
I would have thought that FX would have moved forward and on a bit further than this by now and created a fantastic example of a state of the art PCP ? BUT NO..
Mine is like a laser! Just 'cos his isn't accurate ( yet) doesn't make all of them so.and I don't use JSB pellets - too many fliers, so I use H& N ftts or Daystate kaisers( same thing).btw, this is the first FX I've ever owned - I have Daystate, Airarms and weirauch pcps - and what I call the best springer I've ever had,a hw98.
This is what irritates me about rifle manufactures. If they had been honest and called it a junior rifle or been clear about its limitations regarding accuracy I would be fine about it. However they didn’t. Every video I have seen this rifle being used you sit there and question the inconsistency in accuracy. I also wouldn’t call £750 a budget rifle considering you can get a HW110 for the same kind of money and that is a lot more accurate. I will be interested to see if you can resolve the issues with a stiffer barrel / liner as I suspect it is due to the change in pressure or other compromise they have had to make which is causing the issues.
Accuracy wow if that were mine it would be going back🤣 but on the up can’t wait for upgrades 😁
yes it's not great but it will be in the end😁
Great review as always, one thing good about most fx rifles is the synthetic stock make them very light, which would be great to carry around when hunting, it was nice to meet you both at the daystate experience days 😊
yes it is very light and easy to shoot 😀 it was good to meet you too👍
Ooh, I'm excited about about the "shorty" version, that should look fantastic, please do!
thank you for watching 😀 we are going to try 😀
A great honest review as always. I was hoping you would get a DRS to work your magic on.
Ive recently bought one in .22 and from the reviews ive seen they weirdly seem to be grouping better than the .177.
I bought the darc single shot loader and jb3d adjustable extended butt hook both from ebay which has vastly improved the accuracy of the rifle.
Keep up the great work i can't wait to see the upgrades planned and hopefully some might find there way into your ebay shop🙏🏻
Looking forward to a conversion. I was going to buy one but instantly disliked how the breech was disproportionately thinner than the cylinder over the barrel, ruining the lines/overall look for me. Didn't know whether the internals could be reproduced, on my small lathe, to fit a slimmer cylinder and new rifled barrel. It is screaming for a nice wooden stock, and certainly an Air Arms style stock would be super. Shame about dovetails being so short. I imagine 2 or 3 spacers along barrel would help nullify harmonics/POI change.
Shocking accuracy for a rifle that costs 700 quid! Looking forward to seeing you work your magic on it. CZ barrel, and an in-house produced suppressor/shroud perhaps? :)
😁 thank you for watching 😀
I’ve installed the hp plenum and huma reg to mine. Just a little more tuning and it’s a lot more efficient and quieter
Great analysis as always. Looking forward to the modifications 👏
Coming soon 😀
Can't wait for the upgrades on this one
yes this should be a good one if we can get some bits 😀 thank you for watching 🙏
Thanks for sharing sir. Your videos are so valuable as to all the correct information you share with us. I am really enjoying mine in 177 sub 12. I can't wait for the saber tactical stock soon to be on the market and my rifle. I will also be getting myself the carbon shroud which can then be filled to 250bar. Take care hope you have a great week 🎯🇬🇧👍🏼
thank you for watching 🙏
I've been looking at this gun and have it on my short list but the accuracy is a bit off . I wouldn't spend almost £800 just to shoot a few tin cans and spinners, a gun half that price is more than adequate for that. Thanks for the video, it has helped with my choice making, I don't suppose you have made a review on the BSA scorpion by any chance? much appreciated 😊
Lovely looking rifle, although I think you are being too kind around the accuracy :-) I also think its a 1k rifle when you factor in the pic rail, which is almost a must have........however, a nice fair review on a rifle which has so much promise.....looking forward to the series.
i know what you mean but this one is at the bottom end of the scale, had we have got the all singing all dancing one i would not be happy
Looking forward to see the a compact version.
if we can get the parts it should be very neat 😀
Cracking video as always and you tell it as it is unlike the FX fanboy promoters who claim everything FX is the most accurate thing on the planet, don't get me wrong I think FX come up with
some of the most innovative mix of design features around. I have an Impact M3 and it shoots like a laser beam but it took a lot of work and money to make it do that a lot of which was following your advice with a new HFT 500 barrel and an Airmarksman Backbone to make it rigid. I don't know anyone who has had success with the drinking straw liner barrel on any sub 12
rifle, most people I know are very dissapointed at the accuracy for what is normally an expensive bit of kit.
i would agree with you, i love my m3 but you need to make it work properly to get the best out of it
My m3 was a laser out of the box. When i say one hole at 50y... it would put a jsb right in the exact same spot the last one went. You couldnt tell if you actually shot another shot. two or ten shots.. all in the same spot. 75y group opened toi a ragged hole.. 100y the pellets began to spiral and open up to a 2-3" area. Going to slugs for knock down power and consistency over 75y is when things got difficult. But i think people THINK thbey need these mods to shoot slugs at distance.... but in my experience, the modifications had me chasing my tail more than anything. Back to how the gun came and back to the basics... she shoots light 32-34g slugs like a laser. It doesnt and never did need any of the money into parts you think it did.
I will say... some liners you get from them are flat shit. they love their stamped barrel liners but i believe they are incredibly inconsistent. Its a lottery... sometimes you win sometimes you lose
@@Nicholas-im8bd glad you had a better experience than me.
Great review, i was thinking of getting 1 in 177 changing the stock to a leftie custom in walnut that would bring the price to over £1000, but to see how unacceptable the grouping are at 30 yards its a no from me,my airarms s200 is still the best light weight original bullpup out there 👍.
the 200 is a hard gun to beat 😀 the groups got a lot better when we tightened up the valve cap
Good honest review as always. Look forward to any future videos on this 👍
thank you for watching 😀
nice review👍, always good to see a review outside of the usual FX youtube crowd 😋. I did see in other videos that the drs does not like every pellet, maybe some ammo change would add to that grouping. some questions if you don't mind. did you experience any low shots after resting the rifle? also does the maverick magazine fit with the picatinny mounted?
no low first shot on this one and the maverick / crown mag will not fit with the low pic rail fitted 😀 thank you for watching 🙏
Looking forwards to the barrel change Video, would like to purchase.
Looking forward to want you two do this one :) I have tried a club members DRS and really can't say i like the stock it's to short for me :( Was great speaking with you both at the Daystate/BRK Days.
thank you for watching 😀 it was nice meeting you too
I'm dying to see the barrel liner and shroud matt showed a glimpse and it seems different more ridged because of having to separate liner from air cylinder and something about keeping it free floating they had to come up with something interesting maybe a follow-up on that nobody's shown that yet...
yes we will be showing it all soon 😀
Great video. Not sure if it is a design fault but one thing I am hearing is the DRS can lose power over time. Having had a look at a friends, there doesnt seem to be any locking screw on the hammer spring adjuster. Over time as he was shooting it the vibration caused the HS adjuster to move and, because it is under pressure from the spring, it was slowly unwinding itself. Maybe he just got unlucky with his ????
we will have a look mate, we are just putting led through it at the moment to give it's best chance😀 it is supper consistent at the moment though
Liked the design so I bought an Artemis M30 a couple of years ago, might try and make a new barrel for it because it shoots worse than this gun but not to bad for the money.
Thanks for sharing another interesting review. Big thumbs up. 👍
I would check the brass thimble at the breech, the leade, rifling and crown first. Even with Chinese barrels I find that most faults are easily fixed with deburring/polishing.
@@Marcus1954s Yeah, all my Artemis airguns shoots quite well apart from the P18 which is really bad and the M30 does also need some help. 😁
thank you for watching 🙏
Nice one man, great video once again..
Appreciate that
Awesome video thanks for your honest review on the air gun thanks for sharing be safe buddy 💯
thank you for watching 🙏
Honest review thankyou
thank you for watching 🙏
I'll probably get some stick for this but can you use a bipod stud on that synthetic stock?
yes it's not a problem if fitted properly
Another great video and one I've been watching out for so thank you..I'm interested to see the improvements you can make to it, as I'm thinking of going for one..The trigger needs sorting can't understand why FX hasn't resolved the sticky trigger.
Anyway thank you for the video and looking forward to the next one about the DRS..
Thank you very much!
@@sub12airgunners Can I ask you a question please..I'm a huge fan of yours and I really enjoy your work..relating to the DRS rifle..Do you think the rifle could be improved if it was worked on by one of the Tuning companies and would it be worth doing?
Your opinion would be welcomed.
Thanks
I use a Allen Key to rotate the magazine , then hold it to install the pellets as the mag system can be a tad fiddly to rotate with it being a mini mag
good tip 😀
FX is the Apple(smartphone) of the airgun industry.
Your videos are awesome though, wish you were in a FAC country.
thank you and tanks for watching
And still using the famous FX "the garbage" trigger.
🤣 thank you for watching 🙏
These peaked my interest but after that accutacy testing im staying well clear from this like all other fx models. They are truely awful groupings.
thanks for watching 🙏
Jesus them groups aint great, i used mine at 40 yards with a 3x9 scope which i could barely see the target using jsb heavys and got better groups 🤔 switched to a longer scope now so will try a proper group next outing, i went for the grade 1 walnut, fantastic looking rifle, looking forward to see what work you do to it and maybe try the heavys again, my t12 and drs both like em, seems to be a fx thing, got a link or name for the gauge cover ?, hate the chrome
we are still bedding it all in so i hope they get a little better
Can I ask you a question..On the rifle did you find the magazine tight when you inserted it into the rifle? Thanks again..
yes it's very tight and we only have the one o ring on our one
@@sub12airgunners have you tried unloading some pellets that have been loaded by the mag ? Could it be the magazine which is affecting the pellets
@@ads3453 yes we did rod pellets back out and the mag does damage some for sure but we do try ssl as well
I was wanting one of these but after watching this video it just doesn't perform as well as my MK1 FX verminator 😢
it's not great but may get a little better with a bit more use
@@sub12airgunners to be honest I'm really surprised by the grouping my little verminator groups at 50 yards like this one groups at 50 I honestly expected it to be a tack driver 😕
Are you still going to do a vid on the ATF Vixen? Or has it lost interest now it's been out a good while?
no still going to do one 😁
@@sub12airgunners Brill,been waiting for that too. i really need to see your strip video for the vixen.
Smart rifle but ill definitely be sticking with my old S410
what is the diameter of fx drs barrel in .25/700mm ? please
Thanks for the review.
Interesting.
Got to admit if that was mine I'd be a little disappointed with those results.
As already said £750 ish isn't the end of of it when you add on the pic rail etc.
Probably better to save up another £2 ,£300 quid and buy something better or buy secondhand and buy something far superior.
yes it's not as good as we were expecting but it is what it is, had i have got the all singing one i would not be happy
nice one 😁😁
Trigger assembly looks slightly different then the Panthera.
Makes more sense than the over priced Pro
thank you for watching 🙏
FX nice...❤ it
thank you for watching 🙏
Fx consistency.
Consistently bad , On all models out of the box shocking ☹️
£700 for tin can gun😳
the consistency is good on this one 😀
Accuracy at 30yrds is just not good enough, if a rifle can’t shoot straight. 🤔 what’s the point of owning it? ?
I can’t see many people buying this product to shoot tin cans. Are Fx marketing this rifle as a fun gun / toy?
Hopefully they aren’t marketing it as a hunting rifle. Punching paper is one thing, watching a rabbit with a smashed jaw trying to feed is another.
Consistency? 🙄. Accuracy , Accuracy, Accuracy, =consistency.
Air arms diablo field pellet wise perform the best, but these really like slugs.
I have never liked FX after buying the mk1 crown that was terrible but these group well and accurate but quite pellet fussy
we did try aa diablo and express but the jsb seemed better
Nice review of a shotgun 🤨
🤣
Nice ❤❤👍👍👍
thank you for watching 🙏
Budget? 😂😂😂
from the big names this is very budget you can't get anything from AA, Bsa, Daystate, brk, Weihrauch
Hi nice video as always but seriously the way that performed is terrible I’ve got an FX Typhoon which shoot’s better than that so I’m shocked that FX have turned out a gun that performs so badly & having seen lots of your videos I know it’s not your shooting that made this gun look bad ,look forward to see if the upgrades make any improvements.
yes it's a shame but we will make it better 😀 thank you for watching 😀
I would have thought that FX would have moved forward and on a bit further than this by now and created a fantastic example of a state of the art PCP ? BUT NO..
some things are stunning and some are not just seems to be FX now
Wait what, that accuracy is TERIBLE!! I know it's not the shooter, he is very capable, the accuracy from that gun is terrible, I'm shocked.
It’s an FX 👍🏽
🤣🤣
yes it's not great but we are still bedding it all in so may get a little better
Mine is like a laser! Just 'cos his isn't accurate ( yet) doesn't make all of them so.and I don't use JSB pellets - too many fliers, so I use H& N ftts or Daystate kaisers( same thing).btw, this is the first FX I've ever owned - I have Daystate, Airarms and weirauch pcps - and what I call the best springer I've ever had,a hw98.
@@Esoxlucius51 maybe he didn't use the best pellets for that rifle then.
This is what irritates me about rifle manufactures. If they had been honest and called it a junior rifle or been clear about its limitations regarding accuracy I would be fine about it. However they didn’t. Every video I have seen this rifle being used you sit there and question the inconsistency in accuracy. I also wouldn’t call £750 a budget rifle considering you can get a HW110 for the same kind of money and that is a lot more accurate. I will be interested to see if you can resolve the issues with a stiffer barrel / liner as I suspect it is due to the change in pressure or other compromise they have had to make which is causing the issues.
That not accurate that's shocking. Can't wait for you to do your magic on it it definitely needs it
thank you and thanks for watching 👍
🏆 I'm sorry
thank you for watching 🙏
already seen the accuracy was not good on this rifle on a couple other channels to be honest I would never buy an fx...Agt, epic, krait all day long
yes agt, airmaks are very good
@@sub12airgunners i saw another vid saying how tight the stock is put on to the action can help with harmonics aiding accuracy hope it helps
How much nob
😂
PCP zero interest
Get a 2nd hand weirauch.
Doesn't matter which one.