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Hi dale have the same bike ? What is you best uncorrected horsepower with all your modes I live in Florida want to do some modes when you get a chance thanks
@@albertschneider5978 I only test in SEA HP with smoothing on the full 5 setting. This is the industry standard and the smoothing hurts it a bit , but allows you to get a much better idea of problem areas. I can tell you Standard or uncorrected settings only changes the numbers about 1 to 1.5 HP either way. Cheers Dale
im 90 kg Dale so im gonna get a new spring over the winter and set it up again .... far too soft for me at the mo and that's after me setting it up ....
Very helpful video, thanks Dale. One question regarding measuring the 0 position for the rear suspension: this is done holding the bike straight with tires on the ground? You said 'lift up the bike, take all the tension of the shock'. That sounds like putting the rear into the air 🤔
Hi Daniel, Its best to have a buddy help you. With the side stand down you can tip the bike to the left, lift and top out the shock, or even slightly lift the tire off the ground even 1 inch. Cheers Dale
Do you reckon there's a chance to use a preload ring C-spanner, Dale? I have a couple versions from Öhlins, and two other types of preload ring hooks to fit a 3/8” ratchet. I can also smack with screwdriver and mallet if req'd!
Just use a new medium to large flat blade screw driver. Take your time and hold in position. Most spanners are a pain in the ass to get in there. Mark the adjustment ring with a Shapie marker to keep track of your turns. DW
Hey thanks for making these videos! I adjusted my suspensions which started with similar numbers to yourself, for the front forks I'm maxed out on the top adjuster and can only get to 40mm or rider sag, is there a way to receive the limiter of harness adjustment? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks again
If your doing it exactly how I show you in the video, 40mm is fine. You must be heavier that I am. If it feel like its bottoming under hard braking, you may need a slightly stiffer set of fork springs. DW
Hi Dale. Thanks so much for the video. Picking my bike up today, and I see the preload is backed out to no rings showing. Gonna try and get the dealership to help me set sag, and if they can’t, I’ll just move the rings in till ~19mm are showing. Did you have to adjust the front preload from factory too? If so, by how much? I weigh 190lbs, 200 with gear.
Hi 69, forget the rings. What you want is 35 to 40 mm max of rider sag in the rear, and front. The front end should have that much adjustment, but the rear spring may be to soft for your weight to get those numbers. If not, look into another spring. The valving is not to bad from the factory. Cheers DW
definitely check all settings, set up and pre D might not to do this, i put my own little dot with a sharpie and reset all 4 screws, one of the front forks was a turn off from factory settings!) id be interested if your final sag settings were close to mine
Im interested in this bike (trying to find a demo) but wondering how comfortable can you get it with stock suspension? Im 200lbs and sometimes ride with my 120lbs gf and roads around here are just terrible more so after winter. Thanks!
If you just cruise you should be ok, but you will need to really compress the stock rear spring with the top adjuster. In a perfect world you will want to install a stiffer rear spring, then set up the sag for that. A stock bike with you on it will really sag how they come off the showroom. Cheers Dale
hi dale, got my 2022 z900 cafe a few weeks ago, i checked the rear shock and it was literallyonly 2 turns from the edge, i measured like u said and turned it in a full turn and now its 38mm, im 200lbs maybe i should leave it there, im about to get out the zip tie for front, im assuming the large outer nut does the front adjustment? (edit: yep went 5 turns in, 2 more than stock to get 38mm) feels good, but havent tried in rain yet, riding in the wet is what got me thinking it might not be set up right in 1st place, i lowered my tires to 36/36psi and so far thats made the largest diff, they gave me the bike with 38/42 psi (manual probably errs on side of higher weight or passenger) any other pointers appreciated thanks again, jean pierre
With me at 170 lbs or so suited up on my Z900RS Cafe, I have zero issues at a my street pace. I remove the feelers from the bottom of the pegs on all my bikes also. I really like the peg location for the street, and I touch the side stand before the pegs. If your a good rider, and on the heavy side, many will need a heavier rear spring for the shock. If your going to track the bike often, it would be a good idea to have a set of adjustable rear sets. But then again it depends how fast you are. The bike bone stock is mush, with way to much sag on both ends. Watch a few of my ride along videos. Cheers Dale
Dale, about how many turns of rear preload did you add? I'm picking one up tomorrow, and perusing the online owners manual did not yield any useful info about rear preload ranges or even the standard setting. At 225 pounds I reckon she will need a few twists of the ring!
It does not work that way, you have to measure it to do it right Ricardo, and do the front and rear at the same time. You can just crank it up between test rides and get it better, but that is not the way to set up the suspension. DW
Dale, yep I do understand the principles at work. But if I knew a 50 pound lighter rider on the same bike had X turns of preload, I'd put in X turns and begin measuring at that point. Knowing a useful starting point just streamlines the process of finding the ballpark, no use looking until we reach the correct city.
@@RickyJr46 Ok I'm at the shop now and just l looked at my bike for you. I have 19mm of threads showing from the top surface of the top lock ring. For your weight I would at least start at 35 to 40 mm of thread showing above the lock ring. This is just a guess, and you will still need to measure it properly. Back to work now ... Cheers DW
Thanks for watching guys, and be sure to comment below if you like the video's, give a thumbs up, ring the bell and be sure to subscribe > Dale Walker Holeshot Performance
Hi dale have the same bike ? What is you best uncorrected horsepower with all your modes I live in Florida want to do some modes when you get a chance thanks
@@albertschneider5978 I only test in SEA HP with smoothing on the full 5 setting. This is the industry standard and the smoothing hurts it a bit , but allows you to get a much better idea of problem areas. I can tell you Standard or uncorrected settings only changes the numbers about 1 to 1.5 HP either way. Cheers Dale
Excellent I need to try this. Tried wheeling my 2022 z900rs tonight and it is sofffft I'm 6'2" 220ish
This will help, but you will need to upgrade the rear spring most likely. DW
@@DaleWalkerHoleshot need like 100N spring rate? Will do very occasional 2up riding also.
im 90 kg Dale so im gonna get a new spring over the winter and set it up again .... far too soft for me at the mo and that's after me setting it up ....
Yep heavier riders may want to upgrade to a stiffer spring rate. DW
Dale -- Thanks for the guidance on setting up sag for my Z!
nice simple advice!
Great video. Thanks for posting! Really helpful. 👍🏻
Glad it helped you out !
@@DaleWalkerHoleshot yes it really did help me out. I have set my preload to about 35-36mm now. It’s like a different bike! Really chuffed. 👍🏻
Legend!!! Thank you
Excellent tutorial, top notch!
Helpful to others I'm sure, thanks DW
Awesome, this is exactly what I've been searching for easy and to the point, would these numbers be the same on the Z900ZR? Also I weigh around 98kg
Yes, but your about 216 lbs. You will most likely need a stiffer rear spring Dean. Cheers Dale
Very helpful video, thanks Dale. One question regarding measuring the 0 position for the rear suspension: this is done holding the bike straight with tires on the ground? You said 'lift up the bike, take all the tension of the shock'. That sounds like putting the rear into the air 🤔
Hi Daniel, Its best to have a buddy help you. With the side stand down you can tip the bike to the left, lift and top out the shock, or even slightly lift the tire off the ground even 1 inch. Cheers Dale
Do you reckon there's a chance to use a preload ring C-spanner, Dale? I have a couple versions from Öhlins, and two other types of preload ring hooks to fit a 3/8” ratchet. I can also smack with screwdriver and mallet if req'd!
Just use a new medium to large flat blade screw driver. Take your time and hold in position. Most spanners are a pain in the ass to get in there. Mark the adjustment ring with a Shapie marker to keep track of your turns. DW
Hey thanks for making these videos! I adjusted my suspensions which started with similar numbers to yourself, for the front forks I'm maxed out on the top adjuster and can only get to 40mm or rider sag, is there a way to receive the limiter of harness adjustment? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks again
If your doing it exactly how I show you in the video, 40mm is fine. You must be heavier that I am. If it feel like its bottoming under hard braking, you may need a slightly stiffer set of fork springs. DW
Excellent tutorial
My z900rs feels like it's running on flat tires under my 250 pound butt
Yeah you will need to update the fork springs and rear shock most likely. Cheers DW
Hi Dale. Thanks so much for the video. Picking my bike up today, and I see the preload is backed out to no rings showing. Gonna try and get the dealership to help me set sag, and if they can’t, I’ll just move the rings in till ~19mm are showing.
Did you have to adjust the front preload from factory too?
If so, by how much?
I weigh 190lbs, 200 with gear.
Hi 69, forget the rings. What you want is 35 to 40 mm max of rider sag in the rear, and front. The front end should have that much adjustment, but the rear spring may be to soft for your weight to get those numbers. If not, look into another spring. The valving is not to bad from the factory. Cheers DW
definitely check all settings, set up and pre D might not to do this, i put my own little dot with a sharpie and reset all 4 screws, one of the front forks was a turn off from factory settings!) id be interested if your final sag settings were close to mine
@@jean-pierrefernandez2460 Not sure since its been awhile now. I use a nylon tie around the fork tube when I do the front.
Im interested in this bike (trying to find a demo) but wondering how comfortable can you get it with stock suspension? Im 200lbs and sometimes ride with my 120lbs gf and roads around here are just terrible more so after winter. Thanks!
If you just cruise you should be ok, but you will need to really compress the stock rear spring with the top adjuster. In a perfect world you will want to install a stiffer rear spring, then set up the sag for that. A stock bike with you on it will really sag how they come off the showroom. Cheers Dale
hi dale, got my 2022 z900 cafe a few weeks ago, i checked the rear shock and it was literallyonly 2 turns from the edge, i measured like u said and turned it in a full turn and now its 38mm, im 200lbs maybe i should leave it there, im about to get out the zip tie for front, im assuming the large outer nut does the front adjustment?
(edit: yep went 5 turns in, 2 more than stock to get 38mm)
feels good, but havent tried in rain yet, riding in the wet is what got me thinking it might not be set up right in 1st place, i lowered my tires to 36/36psi and so far thats made the largest diff, they gave me the bike with 38/42 psi (manual probably errs on side of higher weight or passenger)
any other pointers appreciated
thanks again,
jean pierre
That's a good starting point, go with 34 to 35 PSI front and 38 rear for the street. Cheers DW
@@DaleWalkerHoleshot thanks man
What do you think of the footpeg position? I demo'd a z900rs and found them to be too low.
With me at 170 lbs or so suited up on my Z900RS Cafe, I have zero issues at a my street pace. I remove the feelers from the bottom of the pegs on all my bikes also. I really like the peg location for the street, and I touch the side stand before the pegs. If your a good rider, and on the heavy side, many will need a heavier rear spring for the shock. If your going to track the bike often, it would be a good idea to have a set of adjustable rear sets. But then again it depends how fast you are. The bike bone stock is mush, with way to much sag on both ends. Watch a few of my ride along videos. Cheers Dale
Great video
Dale, about how many turns of rear preload did you add? I'm picking one up tomorrow, and perusing the online owners manual did not yield any useful info about rear preload ranges or even the standard setting. At 225 pounds I reckon she will need a few twists of the ring!
It does not work that way, you have to measure it to do it right Ricardo, and do the front and rear at the same time. You can just crank it up between test rides and get it better, but that is not the way to set up the suspension. DW
Dale, yep I do understand the principles at work. But if I knew a 50 pound lighter rider on the same bike had X turns of preload, I'd put in X turns and begin measuring at that point. Knowing a useful starting point just streamlines the process of finding the ballpark, no use looking until we reach the correct city.
@@RickyJr46 Ok I'm at the shop now and just l looked at my bike for you. I have 19mm of threads showing from the top surface of the top lock ring. For your weight I would at least start at 35 to 40 mm of thread showing above the lock ring. This is just a guess, and you will still need to measure it properly. Back to work now ... Cheers DW
Perfect, thank you so much!
@@RickyJr46 Your Welcome !
How far up from the bottom of the fork is bottom out?
I never checked ... DW
Do you know of any place that sells a heavier rear spring?
No since I have yet to look into that SF. Something I may do down the road though DW
Please send me a reminder e mail, and let me work on this. It will take a while SF dlwalker@holeshot.com Cheers Dale