I was always really bad at BS 180’s and I find a good tip is doing half cab 180’s in between BS 180’s and tricking your muscle memory into getting used to the turn.
Dunno if anyone cares but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother recently =)
half cabs feel like a whole different trick. i mean, they are, but fronstide 180 and fs half cabs feel very similar and the muscle memory translates for me - but i struggle with half cabs
Ben I finally got these on lock. Took me a YEAR...I had such a hard time with this trick. your advice to keep your back foot slightly more toeside helped me to become more consistent and land better, and the scooping motion helped me as well...I cant do them super high, maybe not even 1 deck high but I can get them off the ground and do them off curbs and ledges. You are right, backside 180s are SO satisfying and I do think they look cooler than frontside 180s when done well. Thank you for this video, it really helped me
@@thesanch3841 As a rule, that's false. I myself can nollie frontside heel higher and cleaner than I can nollie front 180 but I wouldn't call it easier...
@@marcusrosales3344 maybe so but the rotation for me was very intuitive, no cap I landed one 3 try the first time trying. Back 180s took me literally 1 year of trying on and off but then again I learned both around the same time. I'm not even trying to argue, I'm jus saying I hope I can speak for many others, the backside struggle is fucking real
When you are learning skateboarding, when you haven't gotten really into ollies or airs yet, you can really lean into backside turns and it's fine. But once you leave the ground it is a disaster to lean into backside turns, to lean forward over your board - your skateboard will fly ahead of you and out from under you. It is essential to keep your weight centered over your board. Like you say, a good way to do this is to shift your weight to your back foot while you are rotating. I find that really good practice for keeping your weight centered over your board is practicing kickturns/spins. You can pull a 360 turn without too much attention to balance, but once you get good at centering your weight you will be able to do 720's, 1080's...1440's...They're really satisfying to get good at. Just practicing these spins, backside and frontside, is part of my daily practice. Along with some pushups, sit-ups, squats, heel lifts, some basic weight training and elliptical bike (maybe just a few of these depending on time/motivation).
I'm looking forward to this. I've always sucked at back 180s. Because of that I feel like I've never learned back lips or back tails or basically anything substantial backside. I've been thinking of working on them so I can learn switch back lips, regular front boards scare me but switch feel natural, so I figure that's the best route for me. Decent back 180s are a goal to work on this week.
I've struggled with these for so long, back in the day I actually learned switch backside ollies before regular. Definitely getting these ones better once it stops freezing/snowing here.
Its a strange but familiar feeling doing switch backside ollies. It feels like skating in the bizarro world and i love it. Looking forward to your next video Ben. Most other skate channels feel like rubbish because of the greatness of your videos.
You can definitely scoop them the way ben does in this video, however, I prefer to keep my back foot in normal ollie position to get a little more pop, which in turn gives you better height, which allows you to do the rotation in the air instead of having to pivot. I pivoted my 180s for the longest time and this tip is part of what helped me to get the rotation in the air.
Oh my gosh thank you so much for that tip about it doesn’t matter if your board does the 180 it’s if your body does because you can always revert in the end!!!
Ive got most basic tricks down and some harder tricks but i never got back 180s i barely started trying them like three days ago so im glad you made this!:)
What I like most about backside 180s is whenever I pop and move maybe 90 degrees, landing, and then reverting the last 90 degrees to finish out the turn.
Nice video! Another tip I found helpful when trying to learn backside 180s was to learn backside reverts. That way, you already have down the motion and what you should be doing with your shoulders. At this point, you just need to incorporate the ollie.
Hello Ben I absolutely love the channel... could you please find in your heart to do a how to trick tip video on the humble feeble grind especially on a rail or flat bar. I used to have this trick about five years ago but I can’t seem to get it back, any help or advice would be much appreciated. Much love from Australia 👍😊
If you watch your front foot at the last ending 180s that you do, you actually have your front foot pulled back from the toeside edge an inch or two. This is what was the key for me in learning bs 180s, so thought I'd point that out.
It's weird everyone says the shoulder thing, but the hips end up ahead of the shoulders for the landing. The other thing I notice is that during the landing, it looks like Ben watches the tail land, not the nose.
Would you say the scoop is similar to a revert? Also at some point do you think you could do a 360 revert video? I've been stuck on 180s for a long time
I will definitely try to look down and swing the shoulders, I don't why my switch bs 180 are good and my Normal one are literally a Olli bs pivot. Ps great video as always, much love from Italy.
Bro, for me, I can rotate it for the most part, but I don’t continue to roll fakie, I instead roll back the way I came from, as if I just did a kick turn on flat ground…
adam rizzle notice how I stopped riding it after the first 180? There is to much space from the back bolts to where the tail goes up and on top of that the tail has an unusually mellow angle. I'm actually pretty bummed about it so far. It felt lousy on Indy's so I have thunders on it now. Havent tried it yet.I thought it would be steep but didn't notice the tail. The nose is great and the shape is otherwise nice but it's going to have poopy pop on the tail.
I don’t get how people find the bs 180 hard I for one find the fs 180 really hard.And I can kick flip.So if you can fs or bs 180 worry I can only bs 180 and I can kickfilp
I have never got these. Nowhere near. I have a mental block when rotating bs on a skateboard. I can do BS 50-50, BS 5-0, BS Smith, BS boardlides for days, but the BS 180 still eludes me. Even backside reverts and BS powerslides to fakie, if you can count them, are in the bag. Front Side 180's are healthy and effortless. No thought required. Two things for me are fundamentaly wrong. No matter how hard I try to pop, my back foot does not want to lift off the ground. Like my back foot will not commit or is disconnected from my brain. Second thing is, no matter how hard I try or rotate my arms, head, hips, my feet will only go 90 degrees. It is purely in my head, but I can't unlock it. I have been battling these for 6 six years now and all the tips produce the same result. They are so far off, I don't know how to begin to fix them. The most frustrating thing is that this is my go to trick on a snowboard! FFS!!! I can do 1's, 3's and 5's on a snowboard, backside or fronside. The only limiting factor is the condition or shape of the kicker which determines whether I take off heel or toe edge. I need therapy.
I was always really bad at BS 180’s and I find a good tip is doing half cab 180’s in between BS 180’s and tricking your muscle memory into getting used to the turn.
Dunno if anyone cares but if you guys are bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all the latest series on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my brother recently =)
@Tyson Jayden Yup, I have been using instaflixxer for since november myself =)
Ahh that’s what I’m trying to do right now. I can bs revert all day but throw an Ollie into the mix and I’m lost.
@@matroxman11 that’s my situation too
half cabs feel like a whole different trick. i mean, they are, but fronstide 180 and fs half cabs feel very similar and the muscle memory translates for me - but i struggle with half cabs
Ben I finally got these on lock. Took me a YEAR...I had such a hard time with this trick. your advice to keep your back foot slightly more toeside helped me to become more consistent and land better, and the scooping motion helped me as well...I cant do them super high, maybe not even 1 deck high but I can get them off the ground and do them off curbs and ledges. You are right, backside 180s are SO satisfying and I do think they look cooler than frontside 180s when done well. Thank you for this video, it really helped me
Bs180, the most difficult of the really basic (not counting flips) tricks there is imo! Nice! 😊👍
pop shuvits are even cheesier
Naw nollie front 180 or switch back 180. I guess a beginner wouldn't be doing those usually but they're definitely basic.
@@marcusrosales3344 nollie front 180 is way easier than bs 180 don't @ me
@@thesanch3841 As a rule, that's false.
I myself can nollie frontside heel higher and cleaner than I can nollie front 180 but I wouldn't call it easier...
@@marcusrosales3344 maybe so but the rotation for me was very intuitive, no cap I landed one 3 try the first time trying. Back 180s took me literally 1 year of trying on and off but then again I learned both around the same time. I'm not even trying to argue, I'm jus saying I hope I can speak for many others, the backside struggle is fucking real
When you are learning skateboarding, when you haven't gotten really into ollies or airs yet, you can really lean into backside turns and it's fine. But once you leave the ground it is a disaster to lean into backside turns, to lean forward over your board - your skateboard will fly ahead of you and out from under you. It is essential to keep your weight centered over your board. Like you say, a good way to do this is to shift your weight to your back foot while you are rotating. I find that really good practice for keeping your weight centered over your board is practicing kickturns/spins. You can pull a 360 turn without too much attention to balance, but once you get good at centering your weight you will be able to do 720's, 1080's...1440's...They're really satisfying to get good at. Just practicing these spins, backside and frontside, is part of my daily practice. Along with some pushups, sit-ups, squats, heel lifts, some basic weight training and elliptical bike (maybe just a few of these depending on time/motivation).
Probably my fav feeling trick.
I'm looking forward to this. I've always sucked at back 180s. Because of that I feel like I've never learned back lips or back tails or basically anything substantial backside. I've been thinking of working on them so I can learn switch back lips, regular front boards scare me but switch feel natural, so I figure that's the best route for me. Decent back 180s are a goal to work on this week.
Same! I learned switch front boards first just learned regular ones yesterday lol
I do need to work on these.. Don't really understand why they are so much harder than FS
I've struggled with these for so long, back in the day I actually learned switch backside ollies before regular. Definitely getting these ones better once it stops freezing/snowing here.
I forgot about switch backside ollies. thats a fun trick.
I love those too. They are hard to do really nice.
Its a strange but familiar feeling doing switch backside ollies. It feels like skating in the bizarro world and i love it. Looking forward to your next video Ben. Most other skate channels feel like rubbish because of the greatness of your videos.
b gab you are too kind. Thank you:)
You can definitely scoop them the way ben does in this video, however, I prefer to keep my back foot in normal ollie position to get a little more pop, which in turn gives you better height, which allows you to do the rotation in the air instead of having to pivot. I pivoted my 180s for the longest time and this tip is part of what helped me to get the rotation in the air.
I’m trying to learn these now. Having a hard time getting all the way around. Thanks for the advice.
Thank you for the BS 180 tip. It will help me a lot to get right!
You positively rip. Love your videos, Ben!
Oh my gosh thank you so much for that tip about it doesn’t matter if your board does the 180 it’s if your body does because you can always revert in the end!!!
Thanks for another great video.
Ive got most basic tricks down and some harder tricks but i never got back 180s i barely started trying them like three days ago so im glad you made this!:)
What I like most about backside 180s is whenever I pop and move maybe 90 degrees, landing, and then reverting the last 90 degrees to finish out the turn.
Going to be trying my first backside 180s today! Thanks Ben
its alllll in the shoulders with backside spin tricks. so fun.
Nice video! Another tip I found helpful when trying to learn backside 180s was to learn backside reverts. That way, you already have down the motion and what you should be doing with your shoulders. At this point, you just need to incorporate the ollie.
Brandon Plante I was sitting in my van this morning before work and I was thinking the exact same thing. Oh well. Maybe there will be a 2.0 someday.
Hello Ben I absolutely love the channel... could you please find in your heart to do a how to trick tip video on the humble feeble grind especially on a rail or flat bar. I used to have this trick about five years ago but I can’t seem to get it back, any help or advice would be much appreciated.
Much love from Australia 👍😊
I will try to get on it so you can get on your feeb's.
If you watch your front foot at the last ending 180s that you do, you actually have your front foot pulled back from the toeside edge an inch or two. This is what was the key for me in learning bs 180s, so thought I'd point that out.
mk element yup. Ball of foot roughly centered in the board.
Nice for me is all in the showders and then the rest is flowing 😊✌grate vid as always 😀
Thanks Lukasz☺
I landed my first backside 180 today!
Thank you
Could you make a video on how to rock & roll on transition? Your tips are super helpful
I will try to get back to some more transition videos soon. Right now I am going to be doing some backside ledge ones.
imagine catching this man outside your local high school
It's weird everyone says the shoulder thing, but the hips end up ahead of the shoulders for the landing. The other thing I notice is that during the landing, it looks like Ben watches the tail land, not the nose.
Great channel!
Would you say the scoop is similar to a revert? Also at some point do you think you could do a 360 revert video? I've been stuck on 180s for a long time
I will definitely try to look down and swing the shoulders, I don't why my switch bs 180 are good and my Normal one are literally a Olli bs pivot.
Ps great video as always, much love from Italy.
I'm learning this before frontside 180s lol too late now I've almost got it
Bro, for me, I can rotate it for the most part, but I don’t continue to roll fakie, I instead roll back the way I came from, as if I just did a kick turn on flat ground…
and don't forget to watch out for ice!
I just learnt FS 180 and trying to do these... It's difficult to rotate 90 degrees, let alone 180
I can fakie backside 180 but I have trouble doing a normal backside 180. When I try a normal backside 180 I keep rotating 90 degrees.
Grrrrrrrreat!
This trick is so hard
How do you like that Politic deck? Review coming soon?
adam rizzle notice how I stopped riding it after the first 180? There is to much space from the back bolts to where the tail goes up and on top of that the tail has an unusually mellow angle. I'm actually pretty bummed about it so far. It felt lousy on Indy's so I have thunders on it now. Havent tried it yet.I thought it would be steep but didn't notice the tail. The nose is great and the shape is otherwise nice but it's going to have poopy pop on the tail.
any tip to get that last 20 degrees? i keep landing just below a clean 180 for a stylish roll away
Turn your shoulders more. Focus on your back foot going all the way around. Like your tracking it to get full 180.
thanks I will try that
Wow ben the view and subscriber are growing fast AF! ;) I KNOW IT
Do shuvit flips!
One of these days.
can you do a review of the Vans Old Skools you're skating
I will be for sure.
I dont know why but bs for me is allot easier than fs? I have no idea why. Do I like being blind or something!
Literally harder than Kickflips for me
Bro for some reason kick and heel flips are easier for me then this trick 😔
I don’t get how people find the bs 180 hard I for one find the fs 180 really hard.And I can kick flip.So if you can fs or bs 180 worry I can only bs 180 and I can kickfilp
I have never got these. Nowhere near. I have a mental block when rotating bs on a skateboard. I can do BS 50-50, BS 5-0, BS Smith, BS boardlides for days, but the BS 180 still eludes me. Even backside reverts and BS powerslides to fakie, if you can count them, are in the bag.
Front Side 180's are healthy and effortless. No thought required.
Two things for me are fundamentaly wrong. No matter how hard I try to pop, my back foot does not want to lift off the ground. Like my back foot will not commit or is disconnected from my brain. Second thing is, no matter how hard I try or rotate my arms, head, hips, my feet will only go 90 degrees.
It is purely in my head, but I can't unlock it.
I have been battling these for 6 six years now and all the tips produce the same result.
They are so far off, I don't know how to begin to fix them.
The most frustrating thing is that this is my go to trick on a snowboard! FFS!!!
I can do 1's, 3's and 5's on a snowboard, backside or fronside. The only limiting factor is the condition or shape of the kicker which determines whether I take off heel or toe edge.
I need therapy.