Gretsch Built In Strap Locks -- What You Need To Know! 5420tg
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- This is a short video demonstrating how the built in strap buttons (strap lock system) work on the Gretsch Electromatic 5420 electric guitar with a new Gretsch leather strap, and a few things you need to consider when using it. This is the same strap lock system Gretsch uses on many models in the Professional series and the Electromatic series, including the 6120, the Jet (5220, 6128, 6129, etc.), the 5410 Rat Rod, and the older 5120.
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I only had an issue with the studs coming out from tightening the barrel too tight. Gave the studs a bit more light torque and never had an issue since.
I’ve watched all of your videos in the last day or so lol. My wife recently bought me a 5427tg in this blue color and I’ve been researching it for days. Thanks for sharing some things about this limited model. I had played this one which was used at guitar center and was impressed by it. I didn’t even plug it up. Her and my son went back and purchased it without my knowledge haha! I get to pick it up Friday. Thanks
Hey Braderrick, thanks for checking some videos out, and thanks for the comment. The 5427 is a great guitar and I really like the new FT-5E pickups. You have a cool family!
I have a Gretsch SSLVO Brian Setzer model an have Schaller strap locks mounted on it. And on a couple other guitars, too. I can use the same strap on all of them with no mucking about. No screw rotation or loosening either.
Thanks for sharing. My Gretsch is a Streamliner g2420 and it has the universal strap buttons. Never had an issue with those Fender rubber washers and an Ernie Ball Strap. I do want to convert to traditional Gretsch strap buttons. It's just classier.
I agree. The traditional Gretsch strap buttons just look right on a Gretsch, and they can work fine with the right strap. Thanks for the comment, Dan.
I love my gretschs, but hate their strap buttons. Replaced them with a 7 dollar amazon standard button set. Went from wall-hanger to headbanger.
Thank you Hogan’s Hideout for this explanation. Helpful and useful. I am enjoying mine G5420 a lot the last few days. May I ask another question? I hope I am allowed to. I own a Strat. Playing on the Gretsch I noticed it is a little more tricky to solo in the 17th position (key of Am) due to the design of the hollow body which is thicker. Maybe you can show us some tricks to play decent in this position. Thank you.
Thanks for the comment and suggestions Sjaak Strik, I'm glad you enjoyed the video! It's definitely harder to play in the upper register of a 5420 style guitar than on a Strat or Tele due to the more limited access and the bulkier heel joint. I have one of the Player's Series Gretsch Jets and it has a more sculpted heal joint and much easier access to the high notes. I love Gretsches too and plan on making more Gretsch videos!
@@hoganshideout Thanks. I already did subscribe so I will definitely watch your next video.
Even better is to get rid of those Gretsch screw down strap barrels and upgrade to some Schaller strap locks. They don't unscrew and back themselves out with strap rotation, you can use any strap thickness, and you can interchange straps between your other guitars that are set up the same way as needed.. That's what I've done on all of my Gretsch guitars and I can interchange them with my Fenders as well..
I like the Schaller strap locks too and that's what Gretsch installs on the pro players series guitars. I have had issues with those too, in the past, though. I just worked on my brother's American Ultra Strat which comes stock with Schaller strap locks, because the strap buttons are getting wrenched around and screwed off when he's wearing the strap. None of these systems are perfect, but the Schaller is my favorite. Thanks for the comment!
Are the schaller strap lock screws the same size as those strap locks that come with the gretsch G5230T or do you need to a tech to make a different thread so they can fit?
@@juansalazar6443 Mine swapped right in.
@@WS102you used the schaller S locks? Can you send me a link of which ones you used.
@@juansalazar6443 I used the standard Schallers with the Gretsch screws. They worked together on both of my Gretschs. I just looked at Schaller's site though and it looks like they use an Allen key setup with an integrated 1/8" - 3mm screw. The old style allowed you to remove the screw and use the stock screw that came with the guitar. You'd have to compare the two to see if the new screw in S-Lock would be compatible.
I use Franklin Strap straps and they are pretty thick - leather top with suede back, and I've not had issues. Like Marc says below, don't over tighten the barrel.
Thanks for the comment Tim. After reading your post, I read back over Marc's and I realized the video is not clear about the issue I intended. I wasn't so much concerned that the stud would be unscrewed by the strap, my concern is that the barrel will come unscrewed from the stud. I should have made that more clear in the video and I think showing the Fender strap block clip is the main source of confusion. Thanks for pointing that out and thanks again for the comment and for checking the video out.
I love Gretsch guitars but have always replaced their stock strap locks to a universal. Now it doesn't matter what strap or guitar combo I use, I'm good.
Thanks for the comment. The Gretsch Pro Player Series actually come with Schaller strap locks preinstalled. I had a Ken Smith bass years ago that had recessed strap locks so if you didn't have the strap with the correct strap pieces attached you couldn't use a strap at all. Like this: reverb.com/item/45282550-ken-smith-black-tiger-elite-vintage-6-string-bass-crotch-walnut-tiger-maple
Hogan's Hideout, thank you! I just purchased a G5422G-12 Electromatic Classic Hollow Body Double-Cut 12-String With Gold Hardware. Have had it for about two weeks. Love it. It has Gretsch Knurled Strap Retainer Knobs. The one (strap knob) on the top cutaway was unscrewing and I didn't notice it untill it was just about to come out. I did catch it in time. Should this be replaced? Solutions?
Thanks for the comment Michael. Is the stud/post coming unscrewed or the knurled strap button? The strap buttons are prone to unscrew themselves from use and strap movement and you just have to watch them.
@@hoganshideout Yes, that's what happened, the stud/post started unscrewing itself from the guitar itself.
My Gretsch bass is arriving today, I have dunlop's on all my other basses and have had no problem with them. How difficult would it be to replace the gretsch button with a Dunlop strap lock?
You can screw the strap post out with a small phillips head screwdriver and then install the Dunlops. Here is a photo showing what the gretsch post looks like: www.imuso.co.uk/itm/gretsch-strap-pin-chrome
I have the 5427TG. The strap button by the neck came loose, including the screw itself. I installed a Schaller lock and everything is fine. I wanted to install a Schaller lock on the bridge end, but I can’t get that screw out of the body. I’ll watch it closely to see if it works its way out.
Hi Gene. Could you get the screw out with a pair of pliers or vice grips? It might ruin the screw but you won't be reusing it anyway. Just be careful not to snap it off in the body!
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There’s a tiny phillips head slot in the end of screw.
@@bobbieneedham Thanks Bobbie.
@@hoganshideout Hi same issue here with my New G5422TG. So if the screw studs are left handed which I realize, how are you supposed to screw in the new Schaller strap locks.? Can you provide a link to the ones that workrd for you. Thank you.
These things constantly came loose no matter what and so I went to remove the screw thats mounted and it not only stripped itself but cracked the finish below it lol. How do you remove these things?
Too bad...
The end of the screw that goes into the guitar is a reverse thread; therefore “righty loosey.” The tendency then is to loosen the screw when you tighten the lock. Don’t try too hard to tighten the lock; just make it snug.
I’ve just acquired a Gretsch Electromatic 2006, Peerless built. It’s suffered from the Screw part “ moving about,” and enlargement of the hole. As far as I can see, thickness of the body, would seem to indicate that this is not a good place to locate and indeed support the screw ?. I’ve now fitted a new strap lock, with a nut and washer on the inside. Thoughts anyone ?.
Hi John. Generally the fix for a loose strap button is something like toothpicks and Titebond and that works well -- I actually am going to put up a short video in a few days showing that procedure on an electric bass.
@@hoganshideout Hello and very many thanks for the reply. I can see if the screw hole is just slightly enlarged, your fix would be spot on. Unfortunately mine was the original hole +it's diameter extended to one side. Without gluing a wood piece in etc, etc, there was no fixing !. Hence the installation of a "larger fitting", with a t shaped nut, inside and a bolt holding the outside on. I just wonder if the Guitar side, is thick enough for the original fitting ?. Anyway, I'm good to go now. All the Best, Fenn.
Hi John, I just reread your question. You can actually glue a small piece of wood behind the strap button area (that you fish into the guitar through a pickup hole) to screw the strap button into. It's an easy fix.
I had same issue as Marc Mercier describes. The stud screws are left handed and the barrel is right handed so when you tighten down on the barrel it can loosen the stud. What is the reason for the stud being left handed? I'm sure there is a logical one.
I'm not sure exactly why the stud is reverse threaded but I don't think all Gretsch models are that way. I would just snug the stud down a bit and then not tighten the barrel up too much and see how that works. You could glue the stud in with a drop of Titebond glue, but that may make it hard to get out later should you need to remove it.
Actually, I can't see any logic in the choice of left hand threads on the stud. I challenge Gretsch to defend that little piece of dumb.
Hi - I’m looking to get that strap. Just last night actually. I can’t find the length anywhere. How long is it time permitting? Thanks!
The one in the video actually belongs to my brother and I gave it back to him when I returned his 5427. Very cool strap, though, and I've been meaning to get one myself!
@@thescibsters2049 Nice!
I only need the bottom end of the guitar button
Dumbest design ever.......if you try to tighten the knob, which is kind of what our intuition tells us to to do, you're loosening the stud because it uses left hand threads on its screw. Righty tighty would have been the logical choice in the case of the stud. Gretsch should fix this. Or just make available a stud with right hand screw threads.