I Severely Underestimated Lighter. He Was 100% Worth it | Zenless Zone Zero | Coffee w Hako 28

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  • @majorwakanda8858
    @majorwakanda8858 16 днів тому +9

    Hoping Big Daddy is an S rank fire attacker given how much lighter references him.
    A big daddy, lighter, Lucy/Burnice team would be fun.
    If big daddy was confirmed I’d be pulling. I went all in for C2 M1 Yanagi, so I have to go for Miyabi.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +4

      Big Daddy is so darn high up on my wishlist atm, more Ben Sized agents pls

    • @Farweey
      @Farweey 14 днів тому

      ​​@@HakoCityYESSS!! we need more ben sized agents

  • @PyroCatus
    @PyroCatus 16 днів тому +7

    75% fire and ice buff mean you can use pen ratio or attk 5th disc for even more damage.

  • @HumbertoHernandez
    @HumbertoHernandez 16 днів тому +10

    I want to pull for him, but I gotta be strong for Miyabi, her ball, and probably Astra Yao. The math won't do if I don't save.

    • @wamxxxxxx
      @wamxxxxxx 16 днів тому +1

      🤝
      happy for Hako tho

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +2

      Haha, sounds good my man! Do Not let me ruin anybodies saving plans

    • @soundplayground3742
      @soundplayground3742 15 днів тому +1

      Same here bro, I have to be strong and resist the temptation LOL!
      I'll definitely get Lighter on his re-run.
      Playing with him on his story missions is so fun and I'm loving the sidescrolling missions because I used to play all of the great fighting games and it feels so satisfying to do his attacks 😂!

  • @yake4885
    @yake4885 16 днів тому +4

    Yea i agree that lighter is definitely an investment for the future ice/fire dps with how much he buffs fire/ice damage not to mention the bonus fire/ice shred.
    Also idk the theorycrafting side of things, but i think we can swap the element dmg on disc 5 with something like atk% or pen% to inflate our damage even more

  • @Zywvut
    @Zywvut 16 днів тому +6

    Got lucky and got him and his w engine in 90 pulls, better than I expected tbh. Made my Ellen way stronger and fits in her team as a buffer/stunner/sub dps. No regrets pulling 👍🏽

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +2

      Ooh i love that! I am doing some Ellen testing now with Lighter + Caesar, might have to run Ellen without her additional ability active but the boost from these 2 monsters will be worth it it looks like

    • @Zywvut
      @Zywvut 16 днів тому +1

      @ worth running them both with Ellen cause her additional talent is just 30% ice damage if I’m not mistaken. Also you can run the calydon bangboo to increase skill damage for Ellen

  • @Bl4kAce
    @Bl4kAce 16 днів тому

    It's very interesting to see people's opinions of Lighter. He seems to be pretty divisive, but I expect more people to come around on him as time goes on.

  • @kailaniivo
    @kailaniivo 16 днів тому +3

    He's so much fun! No regrets about pulling him. But... I lost the 50/50 and had to spend more polychromes than I thought in order to get him. So initially I didn't pull for his W2, aaaand now I'm wondering if maybe I should just take the plunge and pull for the weapon as well.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +1

      Ooof, who'd you lose it to? Do you possess any 5* stun engine? Personally i don't consider his engine that crazy compared to Koledas or Lycaons

    • @kailaniivo
      @kailaniivo 15 днів тому

      @HakoCity I got C1 Lycaon on 50/50. I wish I had S-rank stunner wengines, but I don't. Hence my dilemma with the weapon.

  • @loonyatuni
    @loonyatuni 16 днів тому +1

    Pilot best boy ❤🐺🪽
    Ahhh I am so happy about this video! I was so excited for Lighter & it sucked hearing he wouldn’t be useful (not enough to put me off, but it definitely put a dampener on him - like if you make your favourite food & no one else likes it… you’ll still love it for yourself but not want to make it for others’ anymore, which feels a lil sad!)
    Also interesting that his buffs dooooo make a good difference because that’s exactly what I was asking you the other night!
    He feels really fun & easy to play - which, as a potato, is very much my preferred playstyle! (Sorry Yanagi) So I hope I can save enough pulls back up to get him 🔥

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому

      He's honestly twice as fun and thrice as useful as i was expecting. I think you'd really like him on your account!

  • @runbaa9285
    @runbaa9285 16 днів тому +3

    I think what a lot of people missed is that Lighter isn't actually power-creeping Koleda or Lycaon... he instead kinda power-screeps Soukaku... A team of Ellen, Lycaon, and Lighter is honestly absurd from what I've tried. He fills in Soukaku's role of buffing ice damage, and between both him and Lycaon, any boss is getting dazed hella fast, they can barely do anything, lmao...

    • @dopelope8112
      @dopelope8112 15 днів тому

      He buffs both lycon and koleda while power creeping them a bit at the same time lol

  • @mikeymishima7167
    @mikeymishima7167 16 днів тому

    7:53 Ain’t no such thing as a must pull I’ve gotten everything done without Caesar. Just fine.

  • @razingwhy
    @razingwhy 15 днів тому +1

    I pulled him early not dipping into my Miyabi fund, but i have no ellen or soilder 11, so albeit i got him i have no use for him atm. he looks so good tho the lack of ice and fire dps is at a all time low so maybe he will shine better later

  • @BioMatic2
    @BioMatic2 16 днів тому +2

    Im glad for those that pulled for him, but he still has no place in my account sadly.
    Now if he buffed physical that would've been another story.
    Then i wouldnt have pulled for Yanagis signature and i would already have him.
    But now is Miyabi saving time for me.
    Maybe on a re run if they release a fire atacker that i like.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +2

      I still don't quite get why he buffs ice, none of the other Calydons is ice, and he would have been the perfect fit for all of them buffing physical q.q

    • @runbaa9285
      @runbaa9285 16 днів тому +2

      @@HakoCity It's because he's both hot and cool... get it? 😂

  • @sleepy_pommie
    @sleepy_pommie 16 днів тому +1

    I only pulled for Ellen and now I got M2 Lighter. Best investment on this game! I finally finished Ninive max 11 etheral level thanks to him! I play him as a dps and he’s so good…

  • @chillygoose_
    @chillygoose_ 16 днів тому

    I pulled him and have been running him in 2 very different team playstyles, the first team is a Caesar, Lighter, Lucy sons of Calydon team which can break enemies so quick it's ridiculous. And then I've been running him in a rina, lighter, and ellen team which focuses on buffing Ellen with the pen buff (my rina is M1 and her weapon is R2 bc Rina likes me ig) which feels super fast and engaging to play! I'll also swap out rina for soukaku if I feel like I need more of an ice priority rather than assorted enemies. He feels like he's really niche but enables lots of flexibility for the teams he can be used with! He's my first stunner so being able to sub him out for Caesar to be flexible feels really useful! Also his ingame model makes him seem like a giant compared to Belle or Wise which already makes him worth

  • @veldinsparx
    @veldinsparx 16 днів тому +1

    Did you get his w engine too? Or just Lighter? :o
    And if you didn't get his engine then which engine are you using with him?

    • @Kspice9000
      @Kspice9000 16 днів тому +1

      You can use any of the 5 star standard impacts or the cooking pot 4 star.
      Hellfire gears works pretty well with morale works, giving you more energy gain while he's off field and allies are building morale.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +1

      Only went for him, i had a Hellfire gears and Qingyi's engine just collecting dust, so been alternating between them

    • @veldinsparx
      @veldinsparx 16 днів тому

      @@HakoCity Oh yea I did see that Qingyi's engine is actually REALLY good for him!

  • @antdeviant
    @antdeviant 16 днів тому +2

    nah, id skip Lighter, couz i dont have Ellen and Soldier11.
    i think Lighter will be one of the best late game characters with m1-2 and engine + proper team, but right now his potential is very limited.
    gonna make sure for Miyabi rotation and save 200+pulls.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +1

      That is fullly understandable tbh, best of luck in getting Miyabi!

    • @antdeviant
      @antdeviant 15 днів тому

      @@HakoCity you too, buddy! gonna try your ritual to summon her this time xD

  • @gearhead-quarters30
    @gearhead-quarters30 16 днів тому +2

    I'm 20 from hard pity. If miyabi is the second banner next patch I may do a few more pulls for him.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому

      Heck yess! I do very much believe Miyabi will be 2nd, but we'll see!

    • @Somata_
      @Somata_ 16 днів тому +1

      Its rumored that Miyabi and Harumasa are gonna be on the patch for the full duration of 1.4 actually.

  • @Kspice9000
    @Kspice9000 16 днів тому +1

    I want him but I ended up getting a surprise ealry 50/50 loss right after getting m1 yanagi. So now I'm super tempted because he flows really well with yanagi/burnice, but then I lose guarantee Miyabi....

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому

      I love Lighter, but i'd say hold fire for your lil foxgirl Spice!

  • @Freej3
    @Freej3 16 днів тому +1

    You know what Hako?
    I have an interesting video Idea --> go to the "Battle Tower" even if it was Floor 25, use these agents:
    Test run 1: Ellen / Caeser / Lighter
    Test run 2: Ellen / Lighter / Brunice
    Test them out and see the 75%.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +2

      That sounds amazingly fun, only problem is i am at Floor 104, at in order to slot Lighter in i'd need to reset myself to 25 again q.q.. Which i might do just to bring an Avocaboo with me, just working up the strength for it

    • @Freej3
      @Freej3 16 днів тому

      @HakoCity you can do it later but I hope you pass Floor 104 and above, don't lose hope and you can do it 👍🏻

  • @zamuro1919
    @zamuro1919 13 днів тому

    How accurate are those dmg calculations in game? I really think sometimes they are wrong. Awesome vid btw, Miyabi funds are safe

  • @mordakie3805
    @mordakie3805 15 днів тому

    you pulled his m1 is he worth it at M0?

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  15 днів тому

      Defo, i still have not applied his cinema yet, wanted to record a bunch of stuff at M0

  • @progaming-ok8tq
    @progaming-ok8tq 16 днів тому +1

    lighter

  • @asrar_b
    @asrar_b 16 днів тому

    F2P though im really reconsidering this status
    I LOVE Lighter (his EP/story/interaction dont help reducing that) but i dont have Ellen or S11 nor I want to pull/play either if i get S11
    I have Koleda and Lycaon though both are benched cause they are not good with Zhu yuan (did not get Qingyi)
    I know i have to skip him but i caved yesterday and used all my pulls and lost to Lycaon M1
    Gonna cry in the corner

  • @KibaAzure
    @KibaAzure 16 днів тому

    Still feels scummy that you can't reach his max damage bonus without a 5-star engine though.

    • @HakoCity
      @HakoCity  16 днів тому +2

      I hear you mate, after pulling him i'm kinda hoping that the normal banner will give me Lycaons engine, i think that would be sick on him

    • @KibaAzure
      @KibaAzure 16 днів тому +2

      @@HakoCity Here's hoping Trigger ends up being the 5-star fire attacker he needs!

    • @malificajones7674
      @malificajones7674 16 днів тому

      Why? You're playing a product for free.
      If you choose not to buy it, then why would you expect to perform as well as somebody that has spent money on the game?