I thought the portrait was just the film’s way of saying the hotel “got” Jack’s spirit, and now JACK will appear as the next bathroom attendant for the next poor bastard that takes the caretaker job.
If you watch the Mike Flanagan movie adaptation of Kings sequel to The Shining, he becomes the bartender when Danny comes back to the Overlook. I don't remember that scene in the book, so I'm sure it was only in the movie, but Danny comes back to the Overlook and meets his father as the bartender.
What unsettled me the most as a kid was, strangely enough, where scenes of the big empty lobby and the hallway with that droning background music without anything scary actually happening. I found the use of liminal space in this movie really creepy.
That goes through my head so much, I saw this tiktok of an writer traumatizing her characters and ever since then, this exact phrase runs through my head so much
Shelly Duvall is the dark horse GOAT in this movie and doesn't get the recognition she deserves. Her character does everything right despite being out of her mind terrified, protects her son like a mama bear, and gets them out thanks to Hallorann sacrificing himself and getting a working vehicle there. Duvall portrays uncomfortable ugly horror with no vanity and complete investment...likely assisted by Kubrick's horrible treatment of her under the guise of "supporting" her performance.
The way Jack Torrance reminds me of my own dad, especially when he was drinking... this movie always disturbs me on so many levels. The book is amazing too
I wouldnt be suprised if this film helped Jack get the role for the Joker. The way he goes from sane, to unpleasant, to a$$hole to insane, and finally killer insane a$$hole. is amazing
They are probably purists of the book, since Stephan King himself hated this film because of how much was changed from the book source material that he created.
@@andyd3447 I can't agree the film is great if abuse was required to create it. That would make me an accessory; someone who wants to see more abuse as long as it makes a spooky ghost story or whatever. (And yeah, I know, there's probably no movie ever made that didn't abuse someone in the process of making it.)
Wasn’t sure if Jack was actually seeing ghosts or was the hotel just draining whatever sanity he had left. I definitely believe he was a reincarnation.
They never really made it clear whether they are actual ghosts or the Overlook projecting these visions into Jack and Danny's minds because they had the shine. It's explained a little more in the sequel Dr.Sleep that the Overlook is similar to a psychic vampire, in that attracts and feeds off of psychically gifted people. Most normal people can't see the things at the Overlook, but those with the shine are very sensitive to them, and the hotel feeds off of them.
They mention it was built on ancient tribal land so that most likely checks out. Also not the first mention of a place being a psychic vampire in Stephen King's work Rose Red is another example of a haunted house that feeds off of people with psychic gifts .
@@arminarlert1953 again, King never exactly made it clear, but yes, the Overlook is kind of alive. Also possibly cursed. It has a will of its own and feeds off of people with the shine. As the person above noted, this isn't the only time King created a place that had a will of its own and fed off of people. Rose Red was similar.
Filming locations …opening credits is Canada even though it’s supposed to be Colorado and the exterior hotel is the Timberline Lodge on the slope of Mt Hood in Oregon
Happy New Year! Love this movie. The scene with the man on the bed and someone in a bear costume gave me a nightmare as a child and still creeps me out to this day. lol
My theory is that a tragic event took the lives of everyone at a party. Their souls are trapped at the Hotel. Maybe Jack could have been helped by Wendy ?? xx
Note the accident happened well over a year ago -- but he's only been sober for five months. There are all kinds of temporal inconsistencies in this film. Most of them deliberate.
I remember watching this when I was a kid, and loved it for the score and atmosphere. Then also loved when Dick and Danny realized they could both shine.
Note also in the early scene in the car, how he's constantly obliquely dissing his wife, with its implied rebuke about her allowing her son to watch TV unsupervised.
It's been awhile since I read the book, but from what i remember, the infamous scene with the man in the dog suit in a suggestive pose with the man on the bed was based in and explained in the book. One of the earler owners of the Overlook was bisexual and had a gay boy toy he would cheat on his girlfriend or wife with. There's a terrifying part where either the spirit or the hotels projection of him (it's never made clear) corners Danny in the hallway and barks at him in the dog costume. He crawls on all fours at him and terrorizes poor Danny. It was a really scary part
When I was a preteen I had a phase where I got into Stephen King books and read like 2/3rds of the book together aloud with my mom during a mother/daughter trip and later watched the movie w her when we got back, i never finished it w her and she had passed a few years later, during the pandemic I decided to try and re-read it and it was left of at that exact moment and I was like “oh fuck, that’s scary as fuck, nope! I am putting this back down”. And haven’t reopened it since. Maybe I might give it a go and finish it one day, but till then… Lol!
Definately check out the director's cut of Doctor Sleep. Its Mike Flanagan at his finest and does deliver for fans who werent happy with the changes Kubrick made with this movie
I love pretty much everything Mike Flanagan does. As a huge Stephen King fan, or a "Constant Reader" as we are called, I loved Dr. Sleep. Flanagan did a great job of making a sequel for both the King novel and the Kubrick movie.
If you read the book, then you know that they NEVER used the elevator because it was so old and rickety. But in the movie, Wendy takes his breakfast on the roly cart.
I live in an area that has a lot of old buildings and also hot springs, so there's a hundred year old hotel and hot spring resort in the next town over. The main building is MUCH smaller than the Overlook/Stanley but it feels very similar especially situated up in the mountains, and the inside feels very similar too. I went there the first time and was like 'oh man I want someone to chase me down these halls with an axe so bad' XD
Happy New Year! 🥳 It took me longer than I care to admit to watch this movie. I finally took the plunge when Doctor Sleep came out because, as a huge Mike Flanagan fan, I really wanted to watch that movie and I knew it would be better with the context of the original movie. Both were so, so good. Of course, as a big movie fan, I knew what an amazing actor Jack Nicholson was, but I had never seen Shelley Duvall in anything before and she was a revelation. Great way to start the New Year! Thanks!
I'm late but Wendy and Dick Halloran getting together is the ending my soul needs 😭 ALSO I get super revved up like you guys when Jack is taunting Wendy about "his" responsibilities/if she's ever considered them, when literally she's doing his job every day!! 😤
Happy New Year, Boys!!! And I love that Nicholson's longest relationship was 17 years with actress Anjelica Huston, from 1973 until 1990. Ending right before she played the Grand High Witch & Morticia Adams. Wendy Carlos (the GOAT) and Rachel Elkind made the score it's own character in the film. And I just found out looking up his info, that I'm actually 4 months older than Danny Lloyd. So I'm the same age as Danny Torrance. That's trippy. LOL.
You should consider watching “Room 207” either just you privately or as a reaction. An in-depth documentary that, fair warning, does have some theories on the films themes that might make you eye roll and are closer to conspiracy theories but also a lot of good film maker interviews and many insights especially about background things in scenes and how Kubrick messed with the hotel layout to disorient viewers.that are eye opening and you’ll have a lot of “I never noticed that moments”
The exterior of the Outlook Hotel is actually filmed on Mt. Hood in Oregon. The building is Timberline Lodge. I always get excited seeing filming locations in my home state.
Happy New Year to the cutest couple ever❤❤❤❤ I absolutely love this movie ❤❤❤the cast is amazing. Jack was the perfect man for the job and I agree Shelly is stunning and so sweet ❤❤❤❤
Happy New Year boys!! I can't wait to see the movies you guys choose this year! This channel has become a comfort space for me and I'm super grateful for that!! Starting off with a fun fact about The Shining! I'm sure y'all have heard this before and I don't know if anyone has already commented this (I tried to look and I didn't see anyone but if someone did already I'm sorry!!) Not sure if this is 100% true, but I read online that the young actor who played Danny wasn't allowed to actually watch the full finished movie once it was done (for obvious reasons lol). They actually went and cut around and basically edited together an entirely different film for him to watch so he could "see" what he helped create! He wasn't allowed to watch the real thing until he turned 18! If I remember correctly, after he watched it he commented that he was glad nobody let him watch it when he was any younger and I don't blame him! As a writer myself who would 10000% go up to a hotel in the snow to get away and write (not while it's entirely empty but still), this movie TRAUMATIZED ME the first time I watched it!!
I love the theory that there are no ghosts in the hotel… it’s the manifestations of the trauma experienced by Wendy and Danny. The abuse they experienced was too much for their brains given they were isolated with their abuser with no protection. Abuse was psychological, physical, and suspected sexual abuse of Danny. If this theory is correct, Stanley K is a master at psychologically terrorizing the viewer without using the paranormal but just the evil of men.
Shelley said that the staircase seen was the hardest she have done, she was emotionally exhausted after ,its amazing this scene, you can really feel the fear she has and Jack well you just look at him, for me one of the best psychological thrille , horror out there
The reason that Danny doesn't want to discuss Tony anymore after the doctor asks him does Tony tell him to do anything is because "Tony" is a kind of stand-in for his father who told him to do certain naughty things with him and you can imagine what they are since Tony lives in his mouth: ua-cam.com/video/dW2GrG7Zk0U/v-deo.htmlsi=HMtJE-LTNFnhha_G
One of the things I took from this movie or novel was that some of the haunts were from the initial scandalous activities at the hotel, which seem to be a kind of collective of energy, haunted events that made a sort of scar that infects anyone that’s open to it. Although the characters that are ultra sensitives like the son can see the horrors, the negative. Warnings. It’s a good movie n novel. We can’t help but explore theories about how it all happens n effects people . Both mysterious n alien. Great reaction video. Always a joy.
I'd love to know what you guys thought of Steven Weber's performance in the miniseries. I was thoroughly impressed - I thought he was strictly a comedy guy since I had only ever seen him on Wings. But in The Shining? He scared me!
Personally, I liked the mini series, and Steven Webers performance as Jack Torrence. It was actually much closer to the book than this Kubrick version. Steven Weber is really a big King fan and has narrated some of his audiobooks.
I was hoping someone would be talking about the mini series. I loved it as it is closer to the book. Maybe Wes and Chey can revisit it like they’re doing with this movie. I do love this movie as well. I just choose to see it as an alternate universe version. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone react to the mini series before. It needs some love too!
I am halfway my first time watching you watch a movie, and I like your banter a lot. Never mind that you both have seen (parts of) The Shining before, because you are as engaged in it as an average truly first time reactor, if not more so. After finishing this I will check out your other reactions, and hope to find more classics.
All the talk about men made me really want to watch your reaction to Men (2022) with Jessie Buckley lol Also, Bones and All (2022) I would die to see that ;) For this movie I love how they had to slow down Jack Nicholson when he was handling the axe because he was a volunteer firefighter, so he was chopping all of their doors down too fast XD That fact always makes me giggle. Also, mad props to the woman who had to type up "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." All 500 pages worth! I hope she was paid well, as well!
The interview portion is very informative but also kinda misleading. Jack's interview is important, but Wendy's interview with the visiting nurse is much more revealing. Wendy brushes over the abuse, the alcoholism, and Tony's existence as if they were minor details. She knows Jack on a daily basis and must have seen many distressing things but at this point, I think she loves him still but, of course she doesn't really know Jack. " Ya don't know Jack!" She is covering up for an abusive partner, who can say why. She has to be afraid of Jack, while at the same time she loves him. We don't learn anything about Wendy's past, her family, her education, she is presented as a wife and mother who loves her family. But as any person who loves or lives with an alcoholic knows, presentation is very important. To her Jack's alcoholism is easily explained away by the stress of the job of teaching. I love, love your theory about Dorothy Gale and I'm a gonna rewatch this film very shortly on that basis alone. Happy new year! Oh, didja ever see Burnt Offerings? This film, I believe, influenced the shining. Kubrick, like so many creative people, was a magpie, picking up bits here and there when it suited him. Another great film I have always loved and would fit in perfectly with your channel is The Abonimable Doctor Phibes. It seems younger people totally dismiss Vincent Price for being campy, but this film and its sequel show a much different Vincent Price. Lastly, The Witchfinder General is the very best acting of Mr. Price in a horror film. It is genuinely terrifying and hard to watch. 😮
I live about an hour and a half from Estes Park and I've been to the Stanley! It's a beautiful hotel. If you go, I would recommend doing one of the tours, the guides are very knowledgeable and you get to see all of the areas of the hotel you may not get access to otherwise.
@15:13 You haven't lived until you got to experience a basement that had a lot of parties "back in the day." My grandparent's basement was the one, as I would get to the bottom of the stairs walk about 12 feet, and I had to turn around and head back upstairs. It was like drowning in the Ocean one entity after another. When my grandmother passed the basement was empty, but it was eerie like you could hear a pin drop. Then the day before the house sold one single consciousness was left, and its not when I would say was "happy." Fast forward the new owner before reselling the home asked my mother, "someone died in the house," and my mother told her 2, and then she asked if anyone died in the basement. I will leave that story right there. #thatisall
I didn't get to stay at the Stanley unfortunately (the real one, not the one in the movie), but I did stay nearby and got to take a nighttime tour while in town for my cousin's wedding. It's a really cool experience (no paranormal sightings on the tour, of course) and they even take you down in the basement. Word of warning for those wanting to stay at the Stanley: if you're going in the summer, just know that the main building does not have air conditioning!
Oh also - a lot of the score is from Bartok Music for Percussion Strings Celeste...idk something like that. But I think it's mvt 4. So when I was majoring in music, we listened to it in a music history class and and half the class was like "wait....waaaaiiiiiit." Now it's one of my favorite pieces.
"Ma'am, this is a Wendy's"---I'm not even finished my drink and I need to get another!!! lol Please, please do Carrie, and The Omen, and even The Evil Dead! Chris
Hi! We currently have done the omen on our patreon! $5 tier (it’ll hit UA-cam one day- but locked in the vault for now! Also we’ve done all the Evil Dead movies on the channel! (With Carrie to come in the near future!) thanks for commenting 💕
happy new years bbs! I stayed in a haunted room at the Stanley, the hotel it was based off of, which you know, love every interpretation, all offer something different
just noticed for the first time ever that the poster beside the boilers that shelley is working on says CHOKING right before we see danny with bruises on his neck
The car off to the side of the road at the beginning was Stanley Kubricks ways of giving Stephen king the middle finger cause they hated eachother. That was the original car in the book, but Kubrick changed it to another car and color. He does this throughout the movie in little ways. And also add stuff in that he thought would be thought provoking.
24:52 Happy New Year! 🎉 Hope you two have the best year ever, so far.. I know you love Sissy Spacek and Shelley Dulvall. May I suggest you watch the movie called "3 Women". It stars both of them and in the movie Shelley duvall's signature color is yellow too.
oh gosh you should have seen jack when he was younger then this before the shiney. He did a few edgar alan poe novel inspired films. and has in a few films with boris karloff and even vincent price. I didnt even know it was him UNTIL he did his smile. never saw him back then without his shirt but from the looks Id say he had a swimmers build before he started growing a big of daddy fat.
You two are a hoot! While Jack and Danny are crucial to the story, Wendy had to be able to portray a woman who starts hesitant, but becomes strong and a fierce mother bear. Shelley Duvall was a revelation in this role! My first two intros to Jack Nicholson were The Joker and The Shining. Dude scarred me and I loved it. Did you know that there are "rumors" that the director, Kubrick, was the person who filmed the "fake" moon landing. The rumors say that's the reason Danny wore an Apollo 11 sweater and even hinted that the carpet pattern was based on the shuttle/rocket, whatever it is. PS, I remember the days when kids didn't wear seatbelts. Those were the days....😂
yall need to watch the movie 3 women with shelley duvall and sissy spacek! Both horror icons starring together in a dream like movie about identities switching. It has a eerie feeling. I wouldnt say its straight up horror but it does dip into horror energy at times. Its my fave movie ever.
I always hate the scene when she checks up on him and his writing and he’s such a total jerk about it. I wouldn’t want anything to do with him after that. You’re on your own, Buddy.
Obviously, I'm not that much of a jerk about it but as I writer I understand how he was feeling on that part. When I'm on a roll if something happens that takes me out of it, I get so upset. Because if I don't write my thoughts down immediately they are pretty much lost at that point. And I have to put myself in a certain mood to get my inspiration as well. So when I sit back down to continue it's as if I can never get back to that particular place which stinks. That's why I have so many stories that started out amazing but I haven't been able to finish. Or if I tried to go back it's as if it's a completely different story. The tone has shifted, I accidentally start using different tenses, etc. I've never cursed anyone out about it but I have gotten huffy and irritated. And I at least thank them if they bring me food, if they just leave it for me and leave. Also, sorry Wendy I don't like other people reading my work if I don't feel it's good enough yet. You can maybe read a paragraph that I've edited a million times already though lol But you'll have to not read it in front of me, I would be too anxious XD
@@Taramw32 Completely agree, it makes me shudder every single time I watch it! The amount of trash thrown her way in the film and in real life makes me just want to hug her!
Keeping in mind that the book is better than the movie, and the TV miniseries is better than the movie (and more faithful to the book), there are still some things that explain Jack's bad behavior. Danny inherited "the shine" from someone, and it wasn't Wendy, it was Jack. Jack drank to keep the visions at bay. Once he wasn't drinking, he fell prey to the influence of the Overlook, and was possessed by it. That's why he's such a creep. It wasn't him, it was the evil of the Overlook. (Also, considering how much Kubrick and the cast actually tortured poor Shelly, I'm not surprised at how she was running or acting by the end of the film.) As for why Jack's in the picture at the end, everyone the Overlook takes "joins the party" so-to-speak.
Yes this is exactly it! I dont know why ppl take away that jack was always there or reincarnated. I thought it was obvious that people who died get added in to the picture bc the hotel has their soul now.
I just saw that Shelley only made $35,000 for her role.... 😢 worth only $133,000 now. She deserved better.
Happy New Year! Let's start the year off with TRAUMA! 😜
Let's start it with EYEBROWS
I thought the portrait was just the film’s way of saying the hotel “got” Jack’s spirit, and now JACK will appear as the next bathroom attendant for the next poor bastard that takes the caretaker job.
If you watch the Mike Flanagan movie adaptation of Kings sequel to The Shining, he becomes the bartender when Danny comes back to the Overlook. I don't remember that scene in the book, so I'm sure it was only in the movie, but Danny comes back to the Overlook and meets his father as the bartender.
What unsettled me the most as a kid was, strangely enough, where scenes of the big empty lobby and the hallway with that droning background music without anything scary actually happening. I found the use of liminal space in this movie really creepy.
Grady letting him out of the pantry establishes that the ghosts can exert a physical effect. The ghosts left the key in the door.
Also, the lady from the bathroom choked Danny!!
Me on a random Tuesday:
My brain: “Wendy…darling…LIGHT of my LIFE!”
That goes through my head so much, I saw this tiktok of an writer traumatizing her characters and ever since then, this exact phrase runs through my head so much
Shelly Duvall is the dark horse GOAT in this movie and doesn't get the recognition she deserves. Her character does everything right despite being out of her mind terrified, protects her son like a mama bear, and gets them out thanks to Hallorann sacrificing himself and getting a working vehicle there. Duvall portrays uncomfortable ugly horror with no vanity and complete investment...likely assisted by Kubrick's horrible treatment of her under the guise of "supporting" her performance.
The way Jack Torrance reminds me of my own dad, especially when he was drinking... this movie always disturbs me on so many levels. The book is amazing too
I wouldnt be suprised if this film helped Jack get the role for the Joker. The way he goes from sane, to unpleasant, to a$$hole to insane, and finally killer insane a$$hole. is amazing
An hour with the gurls. 🎉 Happy New Year, babes.
My local cinema showed this as a secret Halloween screening - I was so excited when it started to play, seeing it on the big screen was amazing!
I dont know why so many people dislike this movie. Its one of my favorite psychological/suspense movies. The acting by everyone is just so good!!!
They are probably purists of the book, since Stephan King himself hated this film because of how much was changed from the book source material that he created.
@@deadsetondreams1988 too bad so sad Stephen King the movie was great.
I dislike it because I've heard the shoot was abusive for Shelley Duvall.
@@jimballard1186 Yes she was mentally and emotionally abused during the film. I agree that was wrong but the film was great.
@@andyd3447 I can't agree the film is great if abuse was required to create it. That would make me an accessory; someone who wants to see more abuse as long as it makes a spooky ghost story or whatever.
(And yeah, I know, there's probably no movie ever made that didn't abuse someone in the process of making it.)
Wasn’t sure if Jack was actually seeing ghosts or was the hotel just draining whatever sanity he had left. I definitely believe he was a reincarnation.
They never really made it clear whether they are actual ghosts or the Overlook projecting these visions into Jack and Danny's minds because they had the shine. It's explained a little more in the sequel Dr.Sleep that the Overlook is similar to a psychic vampire, in that attracts and feeds off of psychically gifted people. Most normal people can't see the things at the Overlook, but those with the shine are very sensitive to them, and the hotel feeds off of them.
@@cullenarthur8879so the hotel is kinda alive or cursed?
They mention it was built on ancient tribal land so that most likely checks out. Also not the first mention of a place being a psychic vampire in Stephen King's work Rose Red is another example of a haunted house that feeds off of people with psychic gifts .
@@arminarlert1953 again, King never exactly made it clear, but yes, the Overlook is kind of alive. Also possibly cursed. It has a will of its own and feeds off of people with the shine. As the person above noted, this isn't the only time King created a place that had a will of its own and fed off of people. Rose Red was similar.
Filming locations …opening credits is Canada even though it’s supposed to be Colorado and the exterior hotel is the Timberline Lodge on the slope of Mt Hood in Oregon
Not to mention that the interior is a giant set at Ellstree Studios in England.
Happy New Year! Love this movie. The scene with the man on the bed and someone in a bear costume gave me a nightmare as a child and still creeps me out to this day. lol
Furries need love too. 😆
I stayed in the Stanley. Got the tour. The whole shebang. We experienced door opening and the ceiling fan going on by itself.
My theory is that a tragic event took the lives of everyone at a party. Their souls are trapped at the Hotel. Maybe Jack could have been helped by Wendy ?? xx
I hope you two have a lovely year ahead🎉 And I love the dynamic of your relationship, it's beautiful to watch.
Note the accident happened well over a year ago -- but he's only been sober for five months.
There are all kinds of temporal inconsistencies in this film. Most of them deliberate.
I remember watching this when I was a kid, and loved it for the score and atmosphere. Then also loved when Dick and Danny realized they could both shine.
Note also in the early scene in the car, how he's constantly obliquely dissing his wife, with its implied rebuke about her allowing her son to watch TV unsupervised.
It's been awhile since I read the book, but from what i remember, the infamous scene with the man in the dog suit in a suggestive pose with the man on the bed was based in and explained in the book. One of the earler owners of the Overlook was bisexual and had a gay boy toy he would cheat on his girlfriend or wife with. There's a terrifying part where either the spirit or the hotels projection of him (it's never made clear) corners Danny in the hallway and barks at him in the dog costume. He crawls on all fours at him and terrorizes poor Danny. It was a really scary part
When I was a preteen I had a phase where I got into Stephen King books and read like 2/3rds of the book together aloud with my mom during a mother/daughter trip and later watched the movie w her when we got back, i never finished it w her and she had passed a few years later, during the pandemic I decided to try and re-read it and it was left of at that exact moment and I was like “oh fuck, that’s scary as fuck, nope! I am putting this back down”. And haven’t reopened it since. Maybe I might give it a go and finish it one day, but till then… Lol!
Definately check out the director's cut of Doctor Sleep. Its Mike Flanagan at his finest and does deliver for fans who werent happy with the changes Kubrick made with this movie
Doctor Sleep is so good, I just love Mike’s work and he did such a fantastic job with that movie. 🖤
Rebecca Ferguson was amazing in that movie as Rose the Hat.
I love pretty much everything Mike Flanagan does. As a huge Stephen King fan, or a "Constant Reader" as we are called, I loved Dr. Sleep. Flanagan did a great job of making a sequel for both the King novel and the Kubrick movie.
@@cullenarthur8879 Best of both worlds!
I love this channel so much. You guys make me feel happy and safe for some reason. This is one of my favorite horror movies too.
"Pelvis open to him" 🤣🤣🤣 Happy New Year, you beautiful guys. Love you both! ❤
If you read the book, then you know that they NEVER used the elevator because it was so old and rickety. But in the movie, Wendy takes his breakfast on the roly cart.
Jack Nicholson is LEGEND. Period.
You guys should watch some of Shelly Deval's fairytale theater. She puts a spooky spin on fairytales
Happy New Year to you both!! Stay fabulous!
I live in an area that has a lot of old buildings and also hot springs, so there's a hundred year old hotel and hot spring resort in the next town over. The main building is MUCH smaller than the Overlook/Stanley but it feels very similar especially situated up in the mountains, and the inside feels very similar too. I went there the first time and was like 'oh man I want someone to chase me down these halls with an axe so bad' XD
The Simpsons' parody of this movie can't be beat as best Treehouse of Horror segment!
Happy New Year! 🥳 It took me longer than I care to admit to watch this movie. I finally took the plunge when Doctor Sleep came out because, as a huge Mike Flanagan fan, I really wanted to watch that movie and I knew it would be better with the context of the original movie. Both were so, so good. Of course, as a big movie fan, I knew what an amazing actor Jack Nicholson was, but I had never seen Shelley Duvall in anything before and she was a revelation. Great way to start the New Year! Thanks!
Starting out the new year with the shining? Nice.
I'm late but Wendy and Dick Halloran getting together is the ending my soul needs 😭 ALSO I get super revved up like you guys when Jack is taunting Wendy about "his" responsibilities/if she's ever considered them, when literally she's doing his job every day!! 😤
one of my favourite horror movies ❤ also Wes I am obsessed with that sweater you're wearing, serving looks
Shelley's performance is one of the best is screen history!!!
Happy New Year! Y'all are officially the ones I'm watching first in 2024 - I need to read the novel! Thank you for this New Year's Gift!
Happy New Year, Boys!!!
And I love that Nicholson's longest relationship was 17 years with actress Anjelica Huston, from 1973 until 1990. Ending right before she played the Grand High Witch & Morticia Adams.
Wendy Carlos (the GOAT) and Rachel Elkind made the score it's own character in the film.
And I just found out looking up his info, that I'm actually 4 months older than Danny Lloyd. So I'm the same age as Danny Torrance. That's trippy. LOL.
You should consider watching “Room 207” either just you privately or as a reaction. An in-depth documentary that, fair warning, does have some theories on the films themes that might make you eye roll and are closer to conspiracy theories but also a lot of good film maker interviews and many insights especially about background things in scenes and how Kubrick messed with the hotel layout to disorient viewers.that are eye opening and you’ll have a lot of “I never noticed that moments”
The exterior of the Outlook Hotel is actually filmed on Mt. Hood in Oregon. The building is Timberline Lodge. I always get excited seeing filming locations in my home state.
Happy new year my friends, and yes, please do Dr. Sleep!
Happy New Year guys 🎉❤
Happy New Year to the cutest couple ever❤❤❤❤ I absolutely love this movie ❤❤❤the cast is amazing. Jack was the perfect man for the job and I agree Shelly is stunning and so sweet ❤❤❤❤
You know what always gets me? The "Tuesday" slate. I don't know why, it's practically a jumpscare for me.
Don't feel bad. Tuesday gets a lot of people.
This movie traumatized me as a child alobg with Halloween..... and that's why l love them lol
I love you guys! Happy New Year! 🥳
Happy New Year boys!! I can't wait to see the movies you guys choose this year! This channel has become a comfort space for me and I'm super grateful for that!!
Starting off with a fun fact about The Shining! I'm sure y'all have heard this before and I don't know if anyone has already commented this (I tried to look and I didn't see anyone but if someone did already I'm sorry!!) Not sure if this is 100% true, but I read online that the young actor who played Danny wasn't allowed to actually watch the full finished movie once it was done (for obvious reasons lol). They actually went and cut around and basically edited together an entirely different film for him to watch so he could "see" what he helped create! He wasn't allowed to watch the real thing until he turned 18! If I remember correctly, after he watched it he commented that he was glad nobody let him watch it when he was any younger and I don't blame him! As a writer myself who would 10000% go up to a hotel in the snow to get away and write (not while it's entirely empty but still), this movie TRAUMATIZED ME the first time I watched it!!
I love the theory that there are no ghosts in the hotel… it’s the manifestations of the trauma experienced by Wendy and Danny. The abuse they experienced was too much for their brains given they were isolated with their abuser with no protection. Abuse was psychological, physical, and suspected sexual abuse of Danny. If this theory is correct, Stanley K is a master at psychologically terrorizing the viewer without using the paranormal but just the evil of men.
Shelley said that the staircase seen was the hardest she have done, she was emotionally exhausted after ,its amazing this scene, you can really feel the fear she has and Jack well you just look at him, for me one of the best psychological thrille , horror out there
Happy New Year 🎊🎈🎊🎈 boys!! 2024!!
Happy new years y'all are such a inspiration i love your guys content ❤
The reason that Danny doesn't want to discuss Tony anymore after the doctor asks him does Tony tell him to do anything is because "Tony" is a kind of stand-in for his father who told him to do certain naughty things with him and you can imagine what they are since Tony lives in his mouth:
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I love the deep dive into the little details of this film:) Like Shelly’s cigarette ash hanging on for dear life:)
I love the stock music heard during the first maze scene. It was featured prominently in the 1968 classic Doctor Who story, "The Web of Fear".
One of the things I took from this movie or novel was that some of the haunts were from the initial scandalous activities at the hotel, which seem to be a kind of collective of energy, haunted events that made a sort of scar that infects anyone that’s open to it. Although the characters that are ultra sensitives like the son can see the horrors, the negative. Warnings. It’s a good movie n novel. We can’t help but explore theories about how it all happens n effects people . Both mysterious n alien. Great reaction video. Always a joy.
Your sweaters are iconic
I'd love to know what you guys thought of Steven Weber's performance in the miniseries. I was thoroughly impressed - I thought he was strictly a comedy guy since I had only ever seen him on Wings. But in The Shining? He scared me!
Personally, I liked the mini series, and Steven Webers performance as Jack Torrence. It was actually much closer to the book than this Kubrick version. Steven Weber is really a big King fan and has narrated some of his audiobooks.
@@cullenarthur8879 Time to check out some audiobooks, then...!
I was hoping someone would be talking about the mini series. I loved it as it is closer to the book. Maybe Wes and Chey can revisit it like they’re doing with this movie. I do love this movie as well. I just choose to see it as an alternate universe version. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone react to the mini series before. It needs some love too!
Happy New Year! Fingers crossed for a collab between you guys and Shut Up James in 2024!
Happy new year, Chey, and Wes! I'm so happy you're reacting to this movie!
I am halfway my first time watching you watch a movie, and I like your banter a lot. Never mind that you both have seen (parts of) The Shining before, because you are as engaged in it as an average truly first time reactor, if not more so. After finishing this I will check out your other reactions, and hope to find more classics.
Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year
All the talk about men made me really want to watch your reaction to Men (2022) with Jessie Buckley lol Also, Bones and All (2022) I would die to see that ;)
For this movie I love how they had to slow down Jack Nicholson when he was handling the axe because he was a volunteer firefighter, so he was chopping all of their doors down too fast XD That fact always makes me giggle.
Also, mad props to the woman who had to type up "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy." All 500 pages worth! I hope she was paid well, as well!
Who knew I needed the huntie's perspective on, The Shining.
When I hear Jack Nicholson laugh in this movie, all I can think of is The Jokee from the '89 Batman movie..
The interview portion is very informative but also kinda misleading. Jack's interview is important, but Wendy's interview with the visiting nurse is much more revealing. Wendy brushes over the abuse, the alcoholism, and Tony's existence as if they were minor details. She knows Jack on a daily basis and must have seen many distressing things but at this point, I think she loves him still but, of course she doesn't really know Jack. " Ya don't know Jack!" She is covering up for an abusive partner, who can say why. She has to be afraid of Jack, while at the same time she loves him. We don't learn anything about Wendy's past, her family, her education, she is presented as a wife and mother who loves her family. But as any person who loves or lives with an alcoholic knows, presentation is very important. To her Jack's alcoholism is easily explained away by the stress of the job of teaching. I love, love your theory about Dorothy Gale and I'm a gonna rewatch this film very shortly on that basis alone. Happy new year! Oh, didja ever see Burnt Offerings? This film, I believe, influenced the shining. Kubrick, like so many creative people, was a magpie, picking up bits here and there when it suited him. Another great film I have always loved and would fit in perfectly with your channel is The Abonimable Doctor Phibes. It seems younger people totally dismiss Vincent Price for being campy, but this film and its sequel show a much different Vincent Price. Lastly, The Witchfinder General is the very best acting of Mr. Price in a horror film. It is genuinely terrifying and hard to watch. 😮
I live about an hour and a half from Estes Park and I've been to the Stanley! It's a beautiful hotel. If you go, I would recommend doing one of the tours, the guides are very knowledgeable and you get to see all of the areas of the hotel you may not get access to otherwise.
@15:13 You haven't lived until you got to experience a basement that had a lot of parties "back in the day." My grandparent's basement was the one, as I would get to the bottom of the stairs walk about 12 feet, and I had to turn around and head back upstairs. It was like drowning in the Ocean one entity after another. When my grandmother passed the basement was empty, but it was eerie like you could hear a pin drop. Then the day before the house sold one single consciousness was left, and its not when I would say was "happy." Fast forward the new owner before reselling the home asked my mother, "someone died in the house," and my mother told her 2, and then she asked if anyone died in the basement. I will leave that story right there. #thatisall
I didn't get to stay at the Stanley unfortunately (the real one, not the one in the movie), but I did stay nearby and got to take a nighttime tour while in town for my cousin's wedding. It's a really cool experience (no paranormal sightings on the tour, of course) and they even take you down in the basement. Word of warning for those wanting to stay at the Stanley: if you're going in the summer, just know that the main building does not have air conditioning!
I'm crying at you two going in on Jack! 😂
Oh also - a lot of the score is from Bartok Music for Percussion Strings Celeste...idk something like that. But I think it's mvt 4. So when I was majoring in music, we listened to it in a music history class and and half the class was like "wait....waaaaiiiiiit." Now it's one of my favorite pieces.
"Ma'am, this is a Wendy's"---I'm not even finished my drink and I need to get another!!! lol Please, please do Carrie, and The Omen, and even The Evil Dead! Chris
Hi! We currently have done the omen on our patreon! $5 tier (it’ll hit UA-cam one day- but locked in the vault for now! Also we’ve done all the Evil Dead movies on the channel! (With Carrie to come in the near future!) thanks for commenting 💕
In the book Jack is crazy 🤪 before he even gets to the hotel. He beat up a kid at his school before they even leave for the hotel.
45:03 one of my friends in highschool was doing an essay and did this exact thing it was like 6 pages of that quote repeated 😂
Great vid guys! Cannot wait to see you do _Doctor Sleep_ (fab sequel)! 😁💜
happy new years bbs! I stayed in a haunted room at the Stanley, the hotel it was based off of, which you know, love every interpretation, all offer something different
if yall want some deets, I got em, life goal: their halloween ball
It’s a bear not a dog!
I thought so too for the longest time.
just noticed for the first time ever that the poster beside the boilers that shelley is working on says CHOKING right before we see danny with bruises on his neck
"Get me a floatie" 😂 8:34
Doctor Sleep, (2019) ❤❤❤
The car off to the side of the road at the beginning was Stanley Kubricks ways of giving Stephen king the middle finger cause they hated eachother. That was the original car in the book, but Kubrick changed it to another car and color. He does this throughout the movie in little ways. And also add stuff in that he thought would be thought provoking.
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24:52 Happy New Year! 🎉 Hope you two have the best year ever, so far.. I know you love Sissy Spacek and Shelley Dulvall. May I suggest you watch the movie called "3 Women". It stars both of them and in the movie Shelley duvall's signature color is yellow too.
oh gosh you should have seen jack when he was younger then this before the shiney. He did a few edgar alan poe novel inspired films. and has in a few films with boris karloff and even vincent price. I didnt even know it was him UNTIL he did his smile. never saw him back then without his shirt but from the looks Id say he had a swimmers build before he started growing a big of daddy fat.
I went to the Stanley over thanksgiving break! We did the tour but didn’t stay there. The set recreations were cool to see. Definitely worth the trip!
As a colorado native, this movie is such a vibe to me.
You two are a hoot! While Jack and Danny are crucial to the story, Wendy had to be able to portray a woman who starts hesitant, but becomes strong and a fierce mother bear. Shelley Duvall was a revelation in this role!
My first two intros to Jack Nicholson were The Joker and The Shining. Dude scarred me and I loved it. Did you know that there are "rumors" that the director, Kubrick, was the person who filmed the "fake" moon landing. The rumors say that's the reason Danny wore an Apollo 11 sweater and even hinted that the carpet pattern was based on the shuttle/rocket, whatever it is.
PS, I remember the days when kids didn't wear seatbelts. Those were the days....😂
Re Luke mourning for Kenobi: You should watch Robot Chicken's "4 Princess Leia Moments."
This is the most frightening movie that I have ever seen!😢
yall need to watch the movie 3 women with shelley duvall and sissy spacek! Both horror icons starring together in a dream like movie about identities switching. It has a eerie feeling. I wouldnt say its straight up horror but it does dip into horror energy at times. Its my fave movie ever.
I always hate the scene when she checks up on him and his writing and he’s such a total jerk about it. I wouldn’t want anything to do with him after that. You’re on your own, Buddy.
Obviously, I'm not that much of a jerk about it but as I writer I understand how he was feeling on that part. When I'm on a roll if something happens that takes me out of it, I get so upset. Because if I don't write my thoughts down immediately they are pretty much lost at that point. And I have to put myself in a certain mood to get my inspiration as well. So when I sit back down to continue it's as if I can never get back to that particular place which stinks. That's why I have so many stories that started out amazing but I haven't been able to finish. Or if I tried to go back it's as if it's a completely different story. The tone has shifted, I accidentally start using different tenses, etc. I've never cursed anyone out about it but I have gotten huffy and irritated. And I at least thank them if they bring me food, if they just leave it for me and leave. Also, sorry Wendy I don't like other people reading my work if I don't feel it's good enough yet. You can maybe read a paragraph that I've edited a million times already though lol But you'll have to not read it in front of me, I would be too anxious XD
@@deadsetondreams1988 I don’t like being interrupted while focused and on a roll either. The way he talks to her still makes me cringe, though.
@@Taramw32 Completely agree, it makes me shudder every single time I watch it! The amount of trash thrown her way in the film and in real life makes me just want to hug her!
Giving a shout-out to Timberline lodge in MT. hood where some of this movie was filmed
Its a bummer to look up recent pictures of the Overlook, as its now surrounded by McMansions.
I found out about this movie because of TWISTER at the drive-in scene and it is a must-watch on Halloween!
Great movie with a fab Stanley Kubrick's direction. Loved the book, but I like the movie more.
I guess i am q psychopath. I love sunny side up eggs
That hotel looks amazing!
You said you read the book; of COURSE it was the ghost who choked Danny! I know you hate Jack but he didn’t do EVERYTHING lol 🤣
I need this right now.
my favorite horror movie 🥹❤️❤️❤️
Keeping in mind that the book is better than the movie, and the TV miniseries is better than the movie (and more faithful to the book), there are still some things that explain Jack's bad behavior. Danny inherited "the shine" from someone, and it wasn't Wendy, it was Jack. Jack drank to keep the visions at bay. Once he wasn't drinking, he fell prey to the influence of the Overlook, and was possessed by it. That's why he's such a creep. It wasn't him, it was the evil of the Overlook. (Also, considering how much Kubrick and the cast actually tortured poor Shelly, I'm not surprised at how she was running or acting by the end of the film.) As for why Jack's in the picture at the end, everyone the Overlook takes "joins the party" so-to-speak.
Yes this is exactly it! I dont know why ppl take away that jack was always there or reincarnated. I thought it was obvious that people who died get added in to the picture bc the hotel has their soul now.