How I Carry Trash Outside Without A Spare Tire Mount
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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I learned the hard way that on long overland trips, having a way to carry trash outside the car is essential. All of the ready-made solutions are designed to hang from a rear-mounted spare tire. But what if you don't have your spare back there?
Here's what I came up with, and to top it off, it was dirt cheap.
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This guy has a video/answer for every question I have.
Nice solution.
Thank you ! Love this idea!
Thinking outside of the box!
The reason we enjoy your chanel Donald👍🏻
U r right is correct
I have been doing pretty much the same thing for about two years I have a US Army backpack that is canvas but it’s still very waterproof and I have it attached to the back of my roof box. It doesn’t hang down below the roof level and I have it attached very securely so it lies flat against the box and it’s been super convenient for dirty clothes dirty shoes trash, wet items, whatever I don’t want to carry in my box or in the car.It doesn’t look too big or unwieldy, but it holds a lot !It is fine for garbage, but honestly I use it mostly for muddy or wet storage
Adapt. Improvise. Overcome. GREAT IDEA! Thanks for sharing.
Great video.
Very nice
Stay moist my friend!
LOL
A friend of my uncle used surplus packs as "back of seat" storage in his subaru back in the mid 80s.
That's a great idea!
I got one of those knockoff trasharoo bags - but then I do have a spare tire to mount it to. Those bags look kinda odd - spare tire or not. Most people you encounter don't even know it's a trash bag. But they do work - and if you ever had a bear or something smaller like raccoons go after your trash, at least it's outside. I've had animals go in there but they always found something to keep them happy and they didn't try to enter the vehicle. So there's a bonus - aside from smell protection - to carry your trash on the outside.
Another plus I find is me frequently picking up odd pieces of trash along the trail I go. A bottle or can, a mylar baloon. So much easier to stop, pick it up and toss it in the outside trash.
Everyone who takes this even a little serious will be happy to have a bag dangling on their back-end. Ridiculous or not - at least the people who have an outside trash have the intention to pack out what they packed in - and just maybe a little extra (out of course)
Excellent point! What usually happens to me is I end up accumulating cans, bottles, and other trail trash right at my feet in the driver's footwell because I don't have anyplace else to quickly put it when I hop out to grab something. It will be nice to be able to just throw it right in the trash!
You are a great inspiration Donald. Thanks!
I like how it makes your car look like it's carrying a backpack lol. It looks good and rugged cool idea, cause I want to pick up trash on trails
Nice and cheap mod. About the only thing I can think of is the top flap does not look like it completely cover the pouches. If it does, great. If not, I see a bunch of rain water entering it.
Excellent stuff, Donald! Love the ingenuity!!!
Thanks!
Great idea! I found one at my local surplus store in Burbank, CA for $13. HA, now I just need the Forester, or Outback to put it on.
Perfect idea. Will definitely consider this design on my next weekend getaway.
Looks perfect in every way.
I would stop short of "perfect," but for $16 I am very very happy with it. :-)
Great solution, thank you sir.
I like the way you make it work with out spending a lot of money!
I have to admit, looking for ways to accomplish something inexpensively has become kind of a fun challenge. While part of me would certainly like to be able to just buy the perfect product for every need without regard to cost, in some ways that almost seems a little boring. Of course, every now and then, I have no choice but to bite the bullet and just spend the money on the perfect product, so it's nice to offset those expenses by finding ways to save where I can. :-)
Great job. Love your DIY !! Safe travels 🤘🏻
Thanks!
Great idea! Loving the innovations as opposed to just bolting on "cookie cutter" modifications 🤔
Thanks again! 👍🏻
Ahh, very nice! I've been very steadfast against spending $40-$50 on a bag to hold trash. This seems to be the answer to my "prayers". I gotta get one!
Now this is an awesome idea! Great job!
Attached it with a sea sucker.
Great idea you have a great day
Another good video. Thank u. I have an old backpack kinda like what u have that I will use. I will be using a swing out spare tire mount that fits the tow receiver. Really liking your ideas.
Great idea, love to see those tips shared...We can all learn.
Great idea Donald! I sure appreciate your cost saving ideas! We can all benefit from that!
Thanks Dan!
Great design Donald as always
HI ! If you make the upper straps longer and lower straps sorter, then you will be able to see out of your rear glass...
mirrors
Better than a stinky roof rack for sure. Look forward to the update after the trip. George.
Great tip. Thanks
I have a Promaster so I'm running with your idea and just getting longer straps somehow and strapping it to the outside of the back door. I should have no problem doing this as I have nothing on my roof yet to secure it to. Maybe in the future as I am able to upgrade. Great idea.
Nice mod! we also have no rear spare but we most often are carrying our kayaks up top so we stuff our garbage bag in one of them while in camp. We long ago learned to not store it inside the vehicle...mouse attractant for sure. We also have one of those spring loaded, pop up camping garbage containers, we use it when in bear country as we can sling it up into the tree tops.
This is so funny, I have been doing something very similar for a couple of years. I wanted a cheap trasharoo system but I don't have a spare tire on the back either. I got an old backpack from Goodwill, cut the shoulder straps, and attached them to my rack with the plastic slides. It hangs below my window, so no visibility issues. I actually bought a large magnet and mounted it inside the pack to secure it to my hatch. I drive on the freeway with it, zero issues. I line it with kitchen bags. It's super important since I use a luggable loo and I would not want that trash inside the truck ;-)
Nice, I LOVE the magnet idea! I may add that to mine.
Strange idea but could you build a braket for it from the holes used for the licence plate?
My idea for my SH forester: Buy this same bag or similar, and with a little sewing, attach some of those bent flat hooks that are used on trunk mount bike racks. Then you can simply attach the bag directly to the back hatch. I don't have anything on the roof nearly that far back. Bonus: you can open the hatch with the bag fully attached!
Good idea!
Really nice idea, months ago I even thought about using a tow hitch for the spare wheel and a trasharoo. But I massivly hate those ball-tow-hitches (just is so wobbly), and getting 2 inch hitches in Germany and then registering those is difficult and costly. So I thought I just get a trash-container from laboratory equipment with an airtight lid on top. Not much space, and inside the cabin but no smell and can be used as a chair as well. But this seems like a good solution too, only that my forester doesnt have scratches (yet)
That's not a bad solution! It's especially helpful when an item can serve two purposes like that. I considered doing something along those lines as well, but just could not envision where in the car I could possibly put it...every nook and cranny gets packed, especially on weeklong trips when I most need the trash container. And I agree, I'm not a fan of the hitch-mounted spare tire carriers. I prefer to just wait until I can get a custom swing out fabricated. Thanks Dennis!
Looks good I'd do it!
Thanks Donald! When will we see another trip?
Earlier this month, I headed out for a weeklong expedition, but we had to abort the trip after one day and reschedule. In the meantime, it's been impossible for me to get back out even for a short adventure. Thus the recent series of, well, non-trip videos. :-( We are finally heading back out on the original planned weeklong trip very very soon, and I'll have a whole series of what I think are going to be some interesting episodes. Unfortunately, you'll have to endure a couple more non-trip vids until I get back and get to editing the new adventures. Thanks for watching, and stay tuned!
Storing trash on the outside is not bear safe. How about a dry bag as the simplest and effective containment option for in the car storage?
Too bad there’s no Smell-O-Vision. I’m sure the smell coming off that garbage after cooking in your roof box would have been...delish😳🤢 Thanks Donald 👍🚙🏕🍻
LOL! That experience convinced me I needed to do something about it before my next long adventure!
Seems like rain will collect in that bag?
That's the second comment along those lines and I was thoroughly puzzled, but finally looking at the video again, I see it now. I didn't pay much attention as I put in on the car here, but those side panels do tuck neatly up under the top flap. I see that I didn't have it set up quite right here. :-)
Combine the lower straps into a single carabiner maybe? One less thing to unlatch. I really like this. I've been thinking about doing something over the tailgate of my truck but want to keep the scratches down ... Tho I definitely have started to get a few pinstripes on the sides.
Oh that's a great idea, I will give that a try!
Nice!
Good idea👍😊...
Just curious, did you consider a dry bag? They come in many shapes and sizes. Some come with shoulder straps too. If it's waterproof, it seems like it would keep liquid (and smells) in too. You could even go back to your roof idea and swing it over the side for better reachablity when you are in camp...
I sure enjoy your videos. Thank you for sharing with us!
My first thought exactly.
I looked at oodles of bags of every sort, including many versions of dry bags. This one nonetheless appeared to have the best potential for being adaptable to my setup - and was dirt cheap.
A 40l MARCHWAY Floating Waterproof Dry Bag on Amazon works great as well. Just cut off the backstraps.
Don, if it works for you, brother, do it! With my Jeep Compass with the spare tire inside in the wheel well, I used an old waterproof hunting backpack by Banded. I unhooked the shoulder harness at the bottom, draped them over the open door and used $2 compression straps from Walmart and ran them through the loops at the end of the shoulder straps secured each strap ends with buckles found in Walmart's craft section. The closed hatch keeps the pack flat on the door without it flapping. I positioned it so it wouldn't interfere with my rearview mirror vision; however, the pack negates the use of my rear hatch wiper. It's not a huge issue as I hardly ever use it. I just ensure that both of my side mirrors are always clean and fog free. Unfortunately, the Banded pack is a hunter's camo and my Compass is black so it is very noticeable. To maintain cleanliness inside the pack I keep a contractor bag inside so the garbage never touches the interior of the pack including any fluids. I always carry a roll of contractor bags in my spare tire well along with tools, survival shovel, a collapsible snow shovel ($20 in Walmart's auto section), Trail Boss ax, a short Marble axe, a Silky folding saw, IFAK, a portable battery jumper, chains and a small air compressor. I like that Czech surplus backpack and that it is OD green, too.
Nice! Sounds like you found a great solution. Yeah, it's true I can't use my rear wiper either with that on there. But with everything I have stacked up in the back of my car, I don't have much vision out the back window anyway. :-)
@6:52 time stamp I thought about the metal bits of the bag banging against the glass and causing it to break (shatter as safety glass is wont to) specially as the bag may be full. Maybe a wee bit of duck tape (plastic) to provide deformation the brittle glass cannot provide upon impact. Or maybe I'm being a bit too much of a worry wort.
PS I kinda did the same on my XTERRA, but I used a drybag-type backback that I had laying around the house being unused.
I do have rubber pads attached to the metal bits. Still, having seen people try unsuccessfully to break windows with rocks and bats and hammers, even completely full of trash I don't think this would ever have enough weight/mass to break that window.
Just wondering if the cops could bust you going down the roads/interstate. Being that it looks like it might block your view. 🤔
They couldn't. It's no different that driving a box truck, which has zero rear window view. The law requires two mirrors. I have mirrors on each side of the car so am legal regardless of what I do in back. Where this sits is right in line with that vertical panel behind my fridge where all my electrical stuff, fire extinguisher, first aid kid, paper towels, etc are all mounted, so there's no visibility loss there anyway...it was already gone. In any case, I don't plan to drive down the highway with this on. It held fine at 60 mph, but still makes me uncomfortable. I'm only going to use it on there when I'm actually on the trail for days at a time.
What about the critters that want your trash?
I've camped many many nights with friends who have exterior trash bags, and not once have we had animal issues. Those friends all have camped many many other nights without me, also without issue. There are thousands of rigs running around out there with Trasheroos (or similar) on their spare tires. It would appear not to be a huge issue. That said...if I'm ever deep in aggressive bear country, I don't think I'll be leaving that on there. :-) It seems not to be a problem in Oregon though. I will definitely let everyone know if critters become problematic. :-)
@@softroadingthewest thank you, i'm in Texas I've had raccoons try to break into everything. I will definitely try this.
@@michellenead9286 Aah, yeah, raccoons are a different story for sure. I never see them in the wilderness, only around town. I would never leave a bag of trash on my car at home, the raccoons would probably figure out how to remove it and just take the whole thing away, LOL.
Why not try removing the straps from the bottom, and use those magnets you found earlier to hold the bottom to the back gate? Then you don’t have to worry about uninstalling it when you pull in to camp, and you can still move it around as you need. Just a thought.
I'd be more worried about the metal tabs hitting the window. Metal tabs can shatter tempered windows really easy especially going down bumpy roads.
I've added rubber bumpers on all the metal bits against the car. 6:29 Unless you're referring to something else. But that's the only metal on the back of the bag.
Yeah I caught that when you mentioned it@@softroadingthewest . I used to work with glass & the lightest touch of metal can shatter tempered glass. Just ALL the bouncing around we know that things especially push on things don't tend to stay.
How about some black pipe insulator on the back? That will give some cushion for the bouncing & keep the pack 2" off window. Or set it on the bumper & hook to bottom of bumper & a cinch strap to rack??? Turn bag around so front will face car so straps go straight down bumper.
Thanks for putting the link in. Will be getting one eventually.
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Looks like the cover doesn't cover the sides of pack all the way. How about using a bungee somehow to pull the top of the sides in Under the top flap to keep rain from getting in it?
@@tpseeker3367 Yeah, I see that I had this sort of folded out wrong. The sides do tuck underneath the cover nicely, I just wasn't paying attention when I set it up here. :-) I think it's gonna be fine but I'll definitely report back if I'm unable to keep rain out of it.
Sweet @@softroadingthewest I'll surely get one now. The whole time they were sticking out to me & I'm thinkin ahhh yes 4 day old garbage & along comes some rain with 2 days to go. The ripeness would have bears chasing us down the trails during summer.
Keep up the great work. With the ideas you are sharing with everyone you are giving us extra funds for more time on the trails.
Thanks Again
Pardon what may be a dumb question, but do you have to be concerned about attracting wildlife to your vehicle while camping?
Not a dumb question, totally fair. I'll see how it goes, but I'm not too worried. Nearly everyone I know - and have been out camping with for the past few years - carries their trash outside their vehicle, just like this. To my knowledge, none of them have experienced any issues. In Oregon. I think if I was in heavy-duty bear country, I'd definitely be inclined to lock the trash in the car at night.
I'm wondering about it sloshing back and forth, and scratching the window. ..do you notice if that's happening?
I was able to snug it up pretty good, but there was probably a little movement and scuffing. The rest of this car was already pretty significantly pinstriped so that was not really a concern for me. If you're worried about anything getting scratched, I would not recommend this approach. :-)
@@softroadingthewest Thanks. I found a possible solution. I think a small ladder, for an SUV, would work, and then I can mount my bags. 👍🏼
@@MsSupermanian Great idea!
What if you bought long straps and buckles and ran them through the top and bottom gaps in your hatch. Then the trash container would be secure and out of the way when the hatch was open or closed. Instead of the straps running around the entire hatch maybe you could have hooks that grabs the top and lower gaps in the hatch.
In my case, I need the bag to be independent of the rear hatch. At camp, my rear hatch is open all the time, as that is my access to my kitchen, but I need the trash bag to be accessible also when the hatch is open. The slide to the side is a 15-second operation...worth the trouble for me, to have the trash bag handy. :-)
I take it this is a teaser to LAND you bought and that is the lay-out of a new foundation to a small home?????
No...I wish though! I was indeed camped (with permission) on an isolated 5-acre plot of forested private land where, yes, a house will be built, but this spot is on the Oregon coast and overlooks the Pacific Ocean. Prime real estate like this is waaaaaay beyond my budget. I'll be happy if I can just manage to get back here to camp again before construction begins. :-)
How you handling your trash nowadays. I have a Tundra and thinking of downsizing to a midsize SUV/truck.
Currently, not very well, haha. Just using a regular ol' trash bag, which rides in the back of the truck when I'm driving, hangs off my canopy door handle during the day/evening at camp, and gets put inside the cab of the truck at night while I sleep. I currently just have no way to strap anything on the back. When I eventually get to a rear bumper build, I plan on having some kind of swingout arm to carry some stuff and I expect I will strap this or some other trasheroo kinda thing onto that. :-)
@@softroadingthewest Thanks for the reply. I have a 2015 Tundra double cab with a topper. It's great. Great engine, loads of room, I sleep in the back, etc. I live in Gresham and it's my daily and I am on the fence about downsizing. it's a great time to get a good deal on a trade and I'd love a 4runner as I could sleep in it and it would be more trail worthy. It's just me and my dog, don't do truck stuff, just camping. I can sleep in the 4runner but as a camper and fly angler, I am having a hard time with the dirty inside of an SUV being a solid choice. I double cab tacoma short bed would be the only configuration I would go for but I couldn't sleep in it unless I got a topper and slept diagonally like you in your new rig. I don't want an access cab because my dog. It's a tough choice but a truck bed is super hard to beat. I wouldn't trade the tundra for a double cab long bed as it's almost just as big as want I have now. It's a tough choice. I most likely will just keep and deal with the full size. I really want to downsize though and go farther down the trail and peace of mind navigating PDX streets. It's a tough decision.
Maybe it's just cause I live in Alaska and I'm always super bear aware, but I really can't understand the trend of hanging a bag of trash on the outside of your vehicle? If you have that trash for long enough to stink up the inside of your car, it's way more than enough to waft odors to attract wildlife.. be it an annoying fly, to a rabidness raccoon, to a lethal predator like a bear or big cat
That was my initial reaction when I first saw Trasheroos a few years ago. But probably 90% of the rigs I have camped with over the past few years have had Trasheroos or similar spare-tire-mounted trash bags. To my knowledge, none of those friends/acquaintances have ever had animals getting after their trash. It's certainly never happened on any of the many nights I've been camped with a Trasheroo or two in camp. But this is in Oregon, and while we have bear here, it's rare to cross paths with them (I've lived here my entire life and have only seen one bear ever, which was just doing everything it could to get away from me as fast as possible). I can see how in California or Alaska bear country, this approach might not be advisable. But there are thousands upon thousands of rigs roaming the west with trash bags strapped to their spare tires. It seems generally to be non-problematic. Based on other people's general success with this approach, I'm willing to chance it. Guess we'll see what happens! You can be sure that if I have a problematic encounter, I will absolutely let everyone know! :-)
how wide are your current bars on the roof rack there Donald?
What do you mean, the stock Forester rails running lengthwise, the crossbars, or the unistrut stuff?
@@softroadingthewestthe round bar at the tail end of your rig perpendicular to your vehicle. Still working on my 80/20 inc aluminum setup. Trying to nail down if 60" is too wide else 54 or 58" might suffice. Want to setup a Thule cargo box alongside a Kuat Mini Skinny rack :)
@@51249ca Oh, that is not part of the rack, that is actually PVC pipe painted black, which houses supports for my DIY awning. If you give this a quick skim, it should clarify:
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(in that video, I've got it mounted on the side of the car, but I eventually moved it to the rear to cover my kitchen area in my hatch)
But to answer your question...that piece of pipe is 5' long.
Curious about the ATV sticker on the back of your Subaru?
It's a permit that's required to access OHV areas, such as the dunes, and other OHV trail systems scattered around the state. Most of the forest service or BLM roads I drive require no permit, but it's fun to occasionally explore some of the OHV areas as well, especially the various dunes. It's just $10 for a two-year permit, and no test or anything required when it's for a street-legal vehicle, so it's no burden at all.
What were all those lines on the ground (3:40 in)? Looked like you were outlining a new foundation for a building.
I was camped on private property (with permission). It is indeed the site of a future home, that is in the process of being designed and laid out. I didn't capture the view in this video but the spot overlooks the Pacific Ocean. Hopefully I can use this spot a few more times before they break ground. :-)
Before I got my Spare Tire Mount, I used a trunk mount bike carrier .
That's a great idea!
Umm... bears. Just sayin’. I’m not well versed in Oregon camping, but I tend to be where bears rip into things first and ask questions later... in that guttural grumbly language.
Almost every group camping trip I've ever been on, at least one or two rigs had Trasheroos (or similar exterior garbage bags). Never had any issues with animals. I might approach this differently if I was in heavy duty bear country, but based on the experience of nearly all my 4x4 friends who run Trasheroos (or similar) I'm not feeling too worried. We have bear in Oregon, but after having been here my entire life, I've only ever seen one, and I've not heard stories of bear encounters here like you hear about in California or Alaska. We'll see what happens. If it ends up attracting a bear, I will absolutely positively let you all know. :-)
have you considered using the stock rear towhook location? not sure if the sh has that option, but my sj fxt has a rear towhook spot and a stock towhook came with the car
Do you mean the thread-in eye hook thing that screws into the back bumper? I did not think of that as a mounting point. That may be a better solution for some. I admittedly was only able to access that hole I'm using in the framework because my rear bumper cover is chopped.
@@softroadingthewest Yeah, the thread in eye/tow hook location. I only mentioned that because I figured it would be easier to access and would provide just 1 more location to clip things onto. I just leave mine threaded in there all the time because I dont want to loose the hook and I also like clipping things there.
It blocks you back view a ranger will ticket you can’t have anything blocking window view
No. If that were the case, you wouldn't be able to put a camper on a pickup truck, or pack the back of your station wagon to the roof (which I've done countless times) or drive a U-Haul truck for that matter. What's required is two rearview mirrors, which I have on the exterior regardless of what is in or on the back of the car. It would only be illegal if I didn't have a passenger side exterior rearview mirror.
That aside, I do only use this on the trail. I pack it into the car for the highway driving to and from my exploration area, but that is just for the wind/flapping, not for visibility. I already have obstructions inside my car that block the same area of the rear window anyway.
The would be ilegal you will get a ticke
Illegal? How so?
Looks awful