I really like your practical approach to overlanding. A lot of channels have guys/gals with $100,000 worth of rig and toys, and what they do just isn't something the average person can afford. Your approach shows that getting out there and exploring can be done by most anybody that really wants to. Thanks for the vids, and the advice. Cheers.
Not so fast there partner. I was thinking something similar until I was watching one of his newer videos. In the description box there was a partial list of his gear with links to where you could get the same stuff. Mostly through amazon. So I clicked on the link for his basic 2 burner camp stove it was $349 for a camp stove. I purchased one at a yard sale for $5 and used it for over 20 years and guess what? It cooked the meals just the same. So next I clicked on his fry pan…$60 made in france. It was like that if not worse the farther down the list I went. By the time I had clicked on 5-6 items I added them up and they cost more than a full set of tires for my truck that I use for camping and overlanding. It was ridiculous how expensive the stuff was Look for some of his newer videos and do what I did and you will see what I mean. And listen ive got nothing against buying whatever gear you want if you can afford it but dont make it sound like anybody can just go out and drop a couple thousand dollars on 5 or 6 items and off they go. You want affordable I should make a list of the stuff I started with including my $5 grill lol
Totally agree with what Brain Dohertty and bburgess67 said below. I love how you keep it simple and explain why you do so. I have a 2017 Tacoma TRD and all I've done is put on BFG KO2s and that was expensive enough. When I see these guys spending thousands on bumpers, roof racks etc. its insane. How many of us can drop $20k on those types of upgrades? You do what you do with what you have - commendable.
Another valuable video. Thanks. I’m starting to feel embarrassed at how much my gear acquisition is mimicking yours. 🥴 A few years ago, I started freezing water in plastic milk jugs for the cooler. Prevents the mess as the ice melts, and becomes a source of water as well. Free too. Win/win/win
Haha, that's almost exactly what I do. I discovered that the bottles of "Sparking Ice" (some fruity carbonated water beverage which one of my kids randomly picked out on a pit stop one day) are unusually sturdy, and fit perfectly in the bottom of my cooler, so I have 7 of those refilled with water which I deep-freeze in a chest freezer. I just lay them across the bottom of the cooler to perfectly form a new floor of ice. I know it's not as ideal as having the cold above, but I pack the most vulnerable items like raw meat at the bottom right on the ice, and the less vulnerable items at the top, and the refrigeration works quite well. I can't stand having my food in a mess of melting ice. And yes! Backup water! I ended up drinking one of them on the way home from eastern Oregon. :-)
I’ve been doing that for the last few decades and I recommend the heavy duty jugs of water and also if filling them at home I use water that has been out through my Berkey water purifier. It’s the only one that can legally be called a water “purifier” as it purifies the water to 99.9999999% pure. That’s 7 digits to the right of the decimal point. No other filter works that well. It removes everything from the water including pharmaceuticals which are some of the most difficult to remove. I sound like a commercial for the Berkey but I’m not associated with them other than I’m a customer/fan of their systems. I take it with me every year in the fall when I camp for 5-8 weeks straight and all the water we drink is run through the Berkey. Even water we are going to boil goes through the Berkey first because it doesn’t just kill stuff it removes stuff like heavy metals and pesticides and other chemicals.
The bottles of water that I couldn’t remember the name of lol is Arrowhead water. The shape of their gallon size (its actually a bit less) makes them easy to store or stack and they fit in lots of places most others won’t. Also the bottle is strong enough to reuse with your own filtered water from home. I freeze them in one of my big upright freezers at home and I use several different sizes. This way I can lay the big almost square ones on the bottom of my cooler then I can slip the other sizes in amongst what I’m storing in their finally I put some of the smaller individual sized bottles on the top. These usually melt first so I can drink them as they melt and I shift some of the medium size bottles up higher in the cooler. Since cold “falls” I keep bringing bottles up near to the top. If I remember to keep my cooler in the shade outside on a bed of debri like pine needles and not stuck in the hot vehicle it will make everything stay cold longer. I have a really big white Coleman cooler that takes two grown men to move. And no it’s not one of those roto molded Yeti style cooler. Anyways ive had meat stay frozen for several weeks doing it my way. Something that is key to this working is I purchase the stuff I want frozen about a month before I I go. I store everything in one of my big upright freezers for that entire month. That way I know the stuff is beyond frozen when I fill the cooler. Oh and I keep the cooler inside the house not the garage with some of the frozen water jugs in it for several days before I load it up to go. Its not as much of a hassle as it seems lol. These things make huge differences when it comes to keeping stuff frozen. I like to bring ice cream that nobody but me knows about and serve it up after two weeks in the boonies and its still frozen solid. With a little effort you can make just about any cooler behave like one of those expensive ones and if you read the instructions on those coolers they tell you to do what I just did lol. Cheers
Maybe somebody mentioned it or not, there's a type of gas can you can get at Marine stores where it's wide and the cap is on top, with a built in vent. They're usually used with small boats/dinghies. One of those might work better for you! Thanks for the video man! I picked up the T4 Gazelle Overland earlier this year and just got an Outback, looking forward to doing some light trips.
Thank you so much for all your feedback on the equipment you use. Like the person a few comments ago said majority of the people on here recommend much more and much more expensive things then are technically needed but your honesty really helps. Thank you again
From one Subie owner to another, thank you for your channel. Good updates on gear. Curious about new plans for water, I know you have been getting update for us. Thanks again. Stay safe around the fires.
I'm still undecided about water handling. I haven't really devoted much thought to it yet...for now just back to carrying some 1-gallon jugs like I used to do. It was sure nice having running water on demand, but failure aside, there were a few aspects of my system I wasn't entirely happy with, so I'm going to take my time and re-think the whole thing. Thanks for watching!
I use a 5 gallon jug with valve and it works fine for me. Jugs for the rest of it. I too keep it simple and easy. However, some may say I’m old and lazy, I call it whatever works for you! And yes, I’m old and sometimes lazy. LOL
My favourite channel by a long way thanks Donald. Owning a Forester SH that is lowered and hits every pot hole on 18 inch rims looking to change it up as a fresh new build for camping trips.
if your shit isnt easy or cumbersome to set up/break down... thats when your calm and relaxing start to erode. fast and easy/reliable gear, KEEPS you happy and relaxed
I've been travelling about the west in my 2013 Honda Pilot (FWD), with my T3 as the main abode. I carry too much to sleep inside the vehicle much. I was on the Alvord Desert for 2 wks, and just KNEW that a gnarly wind/dust storm was going to send me and my 2 mth old T3 rolling along the playa. Luckily that storm was preceded by a teaser windstorm that convinced me to tie down my stuff like I wanted to keep it. I even took the initiative to learn some knots! The issues I experienced with the tent were: Zippers - I hope they switch to YKK. The Alvord Desert separates the men zippers from the boy zippers. That fine powdery soil gets into spots beach sand can only dream of. I ended up zipping one door for the remainder of the trip because the zipper (for the no see-um) broke. Tried brushing them clean and coating with some olive oil. So far, so good. I'm not certain YKK zippers would've saved the day, but my sleeping bag, and every top performing piece of gear I have had them. Rainfly - for normal use, it's great, I think. I would not have imagined a dust storm blowing a crap-ton of dirt up & under the rainfly into the tent and covering EVERYTHING. I don't know what could be done about something like that, but that's what designers are for. Also, that door design. From my perspective, it seems like the tension on the hub, when staked & tied off, creates too much stress on the door zippers. I've got a Sierra Designs mummy bag that's 40 yrs. old and has NEVER let me... down. 😉 I know I've rambled a bit, but I've been out for almost 3 mths w/o too much contact, and I couldn't help commenting on the T3. As always, great reviews, sir.
Don, thank you so much for this video! I follow your channel because I run a 2016 Jeep Compass and its rear cargo area is probably pretty darn close to yours. Space is limited and knowing what you carry helps me tremendously. Anyway, I returned my Gazelle T3 and put a T4, for more interior space, on Amazon's save list. I will add a Midland 105GMRS CB radio. I had a Midland CB in a '78 Dodge Custom Van when they were "hip" in my 30's; never experienced any issues with the Midland. For lights I use the strings of Luminoodle and power them with an Anker battery; I pack three Ankers of various sizes for my cell phone, bedside fan and other small chargeable items. For Christmas I use ENO string lights that produce different colors. Of course, a good adult beverage is part of the celebration (Pendleton). I also use the Coleman cot but the pad is too thin and I can feel the springs and the frame. I bought a base camp pad by Teton which is wider, longer and thicker making the cot super comfortable. If I sleep in the back of the Compass I use the Teton by itself and it works well for me. My power unit is the Jackery 240 which was $269; shelling out $470 for the 500 or $1000 for the 1000 was beyond my financial limits. I just needed something to power my Alpicool C20 fridge and an electric blanket for those super cold nights. I have a drone but it seems that other campers out here don't appreciate the noise and possible invasion of privacy. A couple of them have been shot out of the air. I thought about adding a hitch and using one of those rear metal baskets to carry extra fuel and a portable potty or whatever gear is needed. I have a cargo basket on the roof but my kayak and all of the "wet" gear goes on top. Stay safe and our prayers go out to everyone on the West Coast (I have family and friends out there).
@@softroadingthewest I'm really pleased with the Alpicool C20 and the price is reasonable, $203 from Amazon to my front door. I have it plugged into a 110 outlet in my gear room and store my adult beverages in it. I set the temperature for 39 degrees fahrenheit (or you can set it in centigrades) and it will vary three to four degrees, depending on the ambient temperature in the room. The motor is whisper quiet even when the motor "kicks on" and it produces minimum condensation inside. When I first bought it I set the temp at 34 F and a sheet of ice formed on the walls so I elevated the temp to 39 and haven't had an issue with icing since. When you use it in your Subi, you may want to place a cover over it as the ambient temperature (usually warmer in a vehicle) will affect its performance. It's advised that the vents on the sides are never blocked. I am going to make a recflective cover for mine. I will buy a small roll of it at Lowe's. A friend of mine fashioned a cover for his Dometics using cardboard and a short roll of leather material bought at Walmart. He says it helps in the performance of its motor.
I get inspired of the capabilities of the forester every video! Really digging the build out in the trunk. Can’t believe you have not had anyone sleep in it yet! That’s insane!! Makes me want to take mine for a trip every time I see you have so much fun, cheers!
Well, it's a pretty cramped space to sleep in. I used to only sleep in the car, before I got the tent, with a different platform build that was roomier, and even there I quickly got tired of squirming around in the car to change clothes or get into/out of bed. My daughter slept once on the old platform while I slept outside in a small one-man tent, but once I got the Gazelle, she immediately preferred being in there with me. I still feel the day *could* come when I will be grateful I've got a spot to sleep in the car. :-)
I really like and admire your set-up, very practical and cost effective too. Especially like your galley, sort of a tribute to the old teardrop campers in it's way, and your stove is excellent. You could churn out a lot of vittles on that unit if need be! Thanks for your content, always a pleasure "visiting" with you!
I sure appreciate your approach to gear and your honesty about what works and what doesn’t! These ideas obviously resonated with many of us! Yours is a fresh voice in a sea of high dollar “cool” stuff! If I had to wait till I could buy all of those things, I’d never get out in the boonies! Thank You!
New to the overland experience, have watched many different videos on this subject yours is one of the best I’ve seen. Thank you for the info on all the gear. Stay safe & happy trails 🏕
A bit of advice concerning the gas can on the roof. If you put a thin piece of white board on top of it with a couple of spacers made of wood or plastic it will prevent it from bulging so much. I had to carry mine in the same position as yours for quite awhile and that helped tremendously with that issue.
My camping context is not the same as yours, but I go out to camp and enjoy the outdoors, not spend unnecessary time setting up camp. That being said, each of us has a context for our camping adventures and balance of how much time and energy and money we can or are willing to spend. Your explanation was done well and hopefully will help people recognize we each have different criteria for what we need/desire for our camping experience. Thanks for the videos!
You have such a sensible, cost sensitive and efficient method. Very impressive. I have watched a number of your videos, subscribed and liked. You have a lot of creative ideas as well. Thank you for giving me and, no doubt, others inspiration.
Recently got a 08 outback. Working on getting my setup going less overland more long stays I picked up a white duck regetta tent and a wood stove so it's good to know good gear to think about. I'm excited to get out and test it!
I like what you were saying while leaning on your little table if I might add something. For me having everything set up and/or break down quickly is important because as you said I’m out there to enjoy the outdoors, the trees, the wind, the view etc and the less time I spend setting up means more time enjoying the outdoors. If I pull into a beautiful spot about an hour before dark I don’t want to spend 45 minutes setting up my camp site. Thats 30 minutes to long and 30 minutes I could have been enjoying my surroundings.
Thanks for sharing your experience. As a sailor trip planning is the most important part of the journey. Would be nice to show your laptop planning and transfer of waypoints to your portable device, I think it would be beneficial to many non-tech people. Thanks JP
It's a long-planned video that I hope to get to someday. But in the meantime...with Gaia GPS, there is no transfer process. Both your desktop computer and your mobile device are linked to your Gaia account. What you do on one device automatically shows up on the other device. I can mark waypoints and routes while doing research on my desktop computer, and they just show up on my iPad. And when I'm out on the trail, I can record tracks or mark waypoints I find along the way while using my iPad, and when I'm back in front of my computer, there they are. :-)
I’ve been using a 97’ Suburban for Overlanding, which has its ups and downs (mainly fuel economy). I was just given a 2004 Forester XS and was glad to find your page. This is great advice, especially as I’ve gotten use to virtually unlimited space in the Burb.
That was a great video. Surprising just how much you can pack in and on the Subie👍 It’s always nice to get your reviews of equipment. Can’t wait for the next video. Adventure on 👍🚙🏕🍻 P.S. Didn’t you just celebrate hitting 25k subscribers and now you’ve passed 26k?! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎊🎉
Thanks Geoff! It's always an interesting challenge to balance what to bring vs the space available while also aiming towards my constant goal of rapid deployment and breakdown. :-)
Re: your table and time; 3 years ago, I went around the US on my Goldwing on a time-limited (20 days) trip (2 nights each in Key West and Bas St. Laurent, NB; 1 night at all other stops) and didn't even take a table, to save time (and packing space). You're spot on with simplicity!
I carry two 3.5 gallon rotopax on the rack of my land cruiser. I used to stack them and that was a nightmare. I had nothing but problems. I now have two separate mounts to carry them separately, but I still ratchet strap them both down. Love the rotopax, but you can’t just set it and forget it.. Great video👍
I bought the gazebo. I am surprised by how much wind the screen stops. It is big enough to put a cot in and have a ton of space to organize gear. Used for three months straight while in SD last summer and it was salvation from the sun. Only time I dropped downn the roof was when the winds were 40+ sustained. I stacked totes and tied the collapsed roof them. Prevented a catostrphic collapse due to wind. FYI, the roof holds quite a bit of water and the seals hold well.
New subscriber, but I’ve kinda watched you off of Jason’s channel. That tent is pretty cool. Super fast setup. You, at least in the Subaru, camp like I do out of my Suburban. I use a cot tent. It does take longer to setup, but when you figure my bed is part of the tent, and my bedding is already in it, it probably washes, time-wise. I do carry a pop up. I use it to bridge to back of the suburban and the tent. I’ve got the same little table, mines aluminum, love it. Cool video. I’m looking forward to exploring it more. 😁👍
We have something in common....my 16 yr old wants to inherit my Subaru Forester and camp. I never new it could be done as efficiently until watching your videos. Thank you for the reviews and explanation why it works for you. Did you happen to record: how you wired your 📻 cb under dash and up through the roof?? 🧰 Thank you for all the time spent recording for us-
I did shoot the install of my radio (like, a year ago, LOL) but it's just been too low a priority to get around to editing it. My antenna wire goes out the back of the radio and through a rubber grommet in the firewall (my Forester has a dedicated pass-through point up behind the pedals, just had to punch a small hole through the rubber seal) then it runs up the A-pillar along with the wiring for my roof-mounted lights. Previously I had pressed it down into the channel between the windshield and the A-pillar and sort of sealed it in with black silicone, but I had to tear it out when I broke my windshield. I recently came up with a new simple DIY approach to getting wires to the roof and I will be covering that in a video at some point, hopefully soon. :-)
Great information, thank you so much! I am looking for a overlanding next summer, but I am a newbie, so your tips are really helpful. I’m surprised you don’t sleep in the car but the tent looks awesome. I’ve been looking for one I can stand up in and easily set up and take down. Loved your demonstration of how easy it is to take down and fold up.
I slept in the Forester for a couple of years, but it's a small, cramped space. The spacious Gazelle tent felt like an upgrade even though it required a little more setup and breakdown work. :-)
Thanks for keeping us updated 👍🏼 I’m glad you talked about your cot because I’ve been thinking about getting one. The jackery 500 is the next big item on my list thanks to your constant good remarks about it. Can’t wait to see what other cool gear comes your way!
Great video Donald. Love how budget minded your gear is. Helps keep me in check when I look at things. Because of you I bought the Gazelle T3 when your first video came out. For fridge, I recommend looking into the Iceco brand. I learned about this company through UA-camr, Hobotech. I went with the VL45 which comes with the well known SECOP compressor. I have used it a number of times this year with my Jackery 1000 and it has worked flawlessly.
Great video man! Just so you know, I use a WiFi iPad with GAIA, but bought a dual GPS receiver. It has worked well for me. All this info here was great tho, thanks!
Yes, excellent point, I did forget that was possible. A nice option especially for someone who already has a wifi iPad. I got my iPad specifically for this purpose so it made sense for me to go straight for the GPS-enabled model, but I forget that most people probably already had iPads long before I got mine. :-)
Hi from north Idaho. Nice review video, thanks. For the gas can, you could make a blanket/bag to slip over it using duct wrap insulation. This would help keep it from getting overheating and swelling up. PS, I've had Foresters for almost 25 yrs and love them. Haven't kitted my out for camping the way that you have, though I do exploration in Idaho and Montana.
Greetings from the other side of the smoke (Klamath Falls) I was surprised to see you upload today. I know Eugene is getting hammered by the smoke from the Holiday Farm fire. It's good to see you faring well enough to be filming and uploading.
Fortunately I happened to go out on the morning of Labor Day to film this.The Holiday Farm fire started that night and since Tuesday morning we have been shrouded in the thickest smoke I've ever seen in Eugene, even dating back to the field burning days of the 1970s. It's been impossible to be outdoors ever since...I lucked out that I got it done when I did! Stuck inside now so just focusing on getting as much editing done as I can. :-)
Very nicely put together, thank you for sharing! The one suggestion I would have is up the power of your radio (some new high power GMRS rigs are coming soon so there are several on sale now) and use a bigger external antenna that is not obstructed by your rack. I went from CB to ham and running 40-50 watts with a full size mobile antenna I can reach many many miles on VHF or UHF in the desert around here (Reno, NV).
also a ham here, I second the suggestion to get a higher power GMRS and to get the antenna into clear space. I still run CB when I'm running trails and gGambler 500 events.
Donald - Gas can suggestion: A. Build a reflective housing with ample ventilation on all sides (think sandwich). B. Construct a simple sensor such that: if the can still swells within that housing, it presses on a contact which will alert you in some manner (like a simple buzzer). At least you will be alerted before a problem arises on a pleasant 105° day. A. is straightforward, B. will take some makerspace dude, but is trivial.
That's a great idea. You're right, it wouldn't be that hard to make some kind of shade for the can...I bet that would make a significant difference. I think it could be done in such a way that a visual check is still possible, as I get in and out of the car so frequently anyway and have already developed the habit of keeping an eye on it...
With great thanks, I am a new sub! Really, REALLY appreciate your “don’t have to overspend” fiscal mindset, and your gloriously practical approach to gear (and how much time & effort it takes to set up & maintain gear)!!! I may not “overland”, but I do want to be able to explore & camp anywhere the mood strikes me and my vehicle will carry me (wait... is THAT “overlanding”?? 😂😂), and while we have recently sacrificed to invest in a capable vehicle (Toyota 4Runner), that purchase left no $$ in our family budget for fancy vehicle mods or high-end gear. I am SO grateful to find a UA-camr who seems to be focused on enjoying the experience with minimal/reasonable cost furnishings that require as little effort as possible to use. I look forward to exploring your other videos and gear recommendations (LOVE that pop up tent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Thanks again 💐💐💐
Thanks for sharing your gear, I have been thinking about those LED light strips as well instead of the work lights attached to the battery consuming a load of power. I bought two recessed LED spots that you usually use for the kitchen or for outdoor panels on the floor. They run at 12V and damn it was one hell of a mess getting the cables going (I ran the cables through the trunk door where the cables for the licenseplate run, down to the C-Pillar where those plastic hooks are, and back up to the rear middle trunk light with the switch, attached it so I can choose to have perm light, only light when the trunk is open or completly off). I put them into the trunk door where those round rubber bumpers are (the ones plugging the chassis), so that when you open the trunk now, the lights are shining from above right onto the kitchen, not too bright but when its dark you can see everything. Good thing about it, is that the interioir plastic lining of the trunk gate is obscuring the lights when your standing right in the middle, so you dont get blinded. Was like 20€ with premium recessed LED spots. I love your kitchen setup by the way, its just so functional without any useless stuff that just adds weight and costs. Also, the wood allows to change and adjust it whenever wanted, just love that. UA-cam doesnt let me slideshow anymore, so I have uploaded it via imgur imgur.com/a/2vBAH9g And yes its a mess with the cables, but only took me 2-3 hours for both lights on my SH Forester. Also added some other camper conversion pictures. Its far from being ready yet.
I've always just had cheap basic folding camp chairs we got probably 20+ years ago. Nothing worthy of note. Although...I did somehow just manage to lose one of them, so some interesting new (used) camp chairs *will* be showing up in future episodes. I will be talking about those once I get a chance to use them.
Gme radios make a fantastic through-glass adhesive windscreen mounted antenna that offers more range than the little magnetic mounted aerials, and swapping across to a permanently mounted "whippy" type aerial can give you a massive increase in range. Definately going to check out that t3 type tent though, putting together plans for a off-road forester build.
I use scepter military jerry cans. They are plastic 5 gal cans. They are designed to expand with heat and vapor expansion. In fact, they even sell a wrench to crank down and open the cans. It can be tough if they are full and expanded with vapor. They can expand quite a bit, which may look alarming but is actually accounted for in the design. Rotopax is a reputable company and I assume the expansion of plastic is accounted for. I would not worry about fuel spill due to expansion. The only thing to maintain would be the seal in the screw top. I would carry a spare or buy an extra to replace if your cap starts leaking.
I am running a Fuelpax can, made by Rotopax but their less expensive line. The manual specifically stated it should be vented by removing the cap when it swells. :-/ I do hope one day to build a custom rear bumper setup where a fuel can, either this one or another one, could be mounted upright, and even if it needed to be vented, it would be a simple matter. Fortunately I do a lot of my trips in fall/winter/spring and at least don't have to worry about the gas can at those times. :-)
The folding table you use is the one I’ve been using for years. I actually have 2 of them and they are perfect. Bought a bigger table the folds up smaller and hate it, it’s too hard to set up and wasn’t worth it. Love your channel.
I like your gears.. we have the jackery 240 and after 3 days of camping we still have 90% and we run a small fan overnight.. I will look for the same tent as yours, thanks!
I bought the iPad mount you replaced. I had a piece of glass custom cut to fit down in the cubby in front of my gear shift and mounted it and my iPad mini down low. Works great and is rock solid. Your assessment is dead on, it needs additional bracing tone rock solid.
Fuel canister ! I often travel in Africa where you are not always guaranteed that there is fuel at your next stop. We often have 4420 liter “jerry. cans” on a roof rake. Topping up your vehicles fuel tanks as soon as you can lowers the center of gravity and in your case will prevent the swelling of the canister. A bit difficult to “lend” some to a mate though.
I absolutely agree with You. I think at most times setting up/taking down the camp actually isn't the most enjoyable part of camping, it is the practical necessity. The enjoyable part begins, when the camp is set up and you can start to spend time in it: prepare a meal (if that is what you enjoy - for some it is annoying necessity also :P ), wander a bit around your campsite, kick back and relax, maybe open an IPA ;) Although one necessary chore I usually enjoy is collecting firewood. I guess it feels ok because it also gives a chance to explore the surroundings. And I feel like a mighty gatherer returning the camp with huge pile of fire material :D But generally yes - it is totally must to make the setting up part so easy it goes fast, especially for when you arrive at dark. Nice informative video as always, keep up the good work!
I used to think of collecting firewood as a PITA and would always try and bring firewood with me, but I agree, it has turned into a pleasurable & satisfying part of the experience that I have come to truly enjoy.
Nice video. I also use my iPad mini 4 with Gaia. If you don't have the cellular version you can use an external gps paired to the tablet for the signal.
Time stamps?... thanks but no thanks, I can't skip quality content 👌. But thanks for talking about the Gaia GPS + iPad, I've been curious about that. We're thinking of getting a cheap used tablet solely for running Gaia, when we do get Gaia. Waiting for these dang 🔥🔥🔥 to burn out so we can explore again. Chance of rain next week 🤞. Hope you're staying safe with that Holiday Farm fire over there. It's so sad.
I know, these fires are unbelievable. Holiday Farm has slowed considerably with the shift in winds and we got some additional firefighters as well (still woefully undermanned but every bit helps). We're safe in the city, just persistently socked in with thick smoke and everything covered in ash. Hoping they can get things contained enough soon to get the highways open again. I can't even begin to imagine what the drive up the McKenzie is going to look like now.
@@softroadingthewest oh man I know! We were planning on driving out there in October/November... but that's just going to have to be pushed back a bit now. We moved to PDX from Texas January this year. We fell in love with the beauty of Orgeon and decided to move. We barely scratched the surface of exploring what Oregon has to offer. These fires are just devastating.
Haha, I love to cook and love to make cooking segments! Not everyone loves to watch them, but this is JUST the encouragement I need to do more of it!! :-)
I’m a new subscriber and really enjoyed this video as well as a couple of others that we watched. I searched “Subaru overlanding” and found your channel mainly because we want a smaller, more reliable vehicle that we can use as a daily driver and for weekend exploring. 2 questions: 1. Do you think the Forester can be used as a daily/weekend vehicle? 2. Do you get good gas mileage? The used 4 Runners and Land Cruisers we’ve been reviewing don’t seem to get very good mileage. Thanks again for your practical approach to overlanding! We look forward to enjoying more episodes.
1. That's how I use mine. 2. Decent, for a trail-capable mini-overlander. Around 25 mpg on the highway, 18 around town/stop & go filming on the trail. Note, that's fully loaded with my gear inside, gear on the roof, and running heavy all-terrain tires. Before I started modding the car I got around 30 mpg on the highway.
I just found you (June 2021) and had never heard of the term softroading. Love it. Watched you 12 favorite camp meals and was hooked. The plastic folding table comes in aluminum. Sturdier and takes hot stoves. I bought mine at Walmart for about $13 but that was a few years ago.
Hi Donald, Thank you for sharing your experiences. When you break it all down, there are many layers to your overlanding adventures. You have managed to contain everything you need in a package called a Subaru Forester. When you consider some people have rigs twice your size, you have to be more space conscious and resourceful, which I believe you have achieved and will continue to hone. Can I get personal and ask....what have you arranged in your setup for the call of nature?
Most of the time, a shovel and a walk into the woods. :-) Though I do also carry a 5-gallon bucket and plastic bags that fit it, for times/places where that's impossible. The Gazelle provides the privacy if I'm out with other people and there isn't a forest to disappear into.
Camping is a byproduct of overlanding, because you need to sleep after traveling/exploring all day before continuing the journey the next day. While some people go camping for the sake of camping - they set up camp at a destination and enjoy camping AT that destination - overlanding, as most people see it, is more about the journey, the exploration, and generally involves setting up camp somewhere new each night, and breaking camp each morning. This is an important distinction, because if I was just going out for the sole purpose of camping, I would not necessarily choose all of these specific items. Many well-known overlanders around the world don't necessarily camp each night, e.g. in Africa where they will often stay in a lodge if there happens to be one. They're still overlanding...traveling and exploring, and sleeping when night comes. Some of the time, they make camp, some of the time, they may use local accommodations. There aren't any lodges where I go, so camping every night it is. While I'm, you know, overlanding. :-)
A better fuel storage system for you might be a boat fuel tank. You can get horizontal mount fuel tanks with the caps on the top. I'm sure you can find one that is tough enough.
This is something I kicked around a long time ago, actually back when I still had a roof basket and was tired of ratchet-strapping a 5-gallon jerry can into it. I ultimately decided against it because I didn't want a gas can installed permanently on my roof...I only carry extra fuel when I might actually need it, the rest of the time, my Fuelpax sits in the garage, out of the elements, and not adding extra weight to the car. My other concern was filling it up. In Oregon, self-service fueling is against the law...operating gas pumps and filling tanks must be performed by the gas station employees, and I suspect most would not climb precariously up the side of my car to get the nozzle into a roof-mounted tank. And I certainly wouldn't want to uninstall the thing just to get it filled, and then have to hoist the full tank up onto the roof and re-attach it. I lift the Fuelpax up there all the time, yeah, but it's got handles designed to make it easy to manipulate, and a simple effective mounting system. I mean, maybe there would be a way to work around all of that, but I think I'm probably more likely to just find a way to mount the Fuelpax vertically. Eventually, some custom rear bumper work may resolve the issue. :-)
@@softroadingthewest I wasn't thinking of the permanent mount type but rather the type used for out board boats. They are portable and strap down to the deck. They have handles and I liked the idea because you could use the outboard port for transferring fuel to the car. I was considering them because they are so inexpensive compared to something that mounts on my spare tire mount. I almost never go where I need extra fuel. But I have a trip planned for the north Maine woods and my FJ's fuel tank isn't up to the task.
@@EthosAtheos Oh yeah! Had to go look them but yeah I see what you mean. That's not a bad idea at all. I abhor dealing with ratchet straps, but I bet one could DIY some kind of metal strap-down system to make it fast & easy to lock into place. If you do end up pursuing it, I would be very curious to hear how it goes!
Ha. I love that you have the jackery too. I love that power source. It’s so convenient. What would you recommend for a portable stove or cooling set up?
There are so many good options these days in various configurations. I used to use a little Coleman single-burner butane stove, very compact, inexpensive, and worked great, except below freezing, when the butane stops flowing properly. I've been using a Camp Chef Mountaineer for the past couple of years and I expect never to buy another stove again, it's super well built and is both more powerful and more able to be dialed down to a simmer than any other stove I've used. Not cheap and pretty bulky, but I love mine.
Not sure I could fill a video. 68,000 miles on the odometer. I don't do any maintenance above and beyond the recommendations, aside from maybe changing the air filter more often. I change the oil every 5,000 miles. I get about 18-20mpg around town/on the trail, and 25mpg with highway driving. I have not had any breakdowns on or off road, no repairs...aside from gradually stripping off more and more of the plastic bits on the underside which get a little abused with what I do. :-)
@@softroadingthewest Thanks! If you did it over again, would you buy the same year Forester? What is the oil consumption in the year you have? Wasn't there a class action lawsuit covering the 2012s? I use to have a 2001 that I had 213K miles on it before I got rid of it. Not sure what year to get at this point? CVT? Manual? 4 speed? EJ? FB? Thanks for taking the time for questions!
@@danmc2678 Yes, I still prefer this model Forester and this engine. It is indeed the FB25 known for oil consumption and yes, it's part of the lawsuit. I have found that mine does not consume excessively in normal around-town driving and highway driving to the mountains for excursions, but with prolonged high speed driving (e.g. full-day drives at freeway speeds) it will eat through a quart of oil in about a thousand miles. I keep a close eye on the oil in general, but road trips to California or whatever, I'm checking it daily. In order to have Subaru replace the short block on the extended warranty that resulted from the lawsuit, it has to undergo a dealer-sealed consumption test. I haven't done this because I know it won't fail in my usual day to day use...I would need to think to coordinate the test with a road trip, but then would be stuck without the ability to actually check my oil and top it up, so the miles driven would have to be very carefully planned out to get it back to the dealer without running it dry. So for now I just stay on top of it. I've not found it to be particularly difficult to manage. I still prefer the FB25 because it has the newer multi-layer steel head gaskets which (supposedly) will not fail as they almost inevitably do in the EJs (I owned two previous Subarus and both experienced head gasket failure), and because it has a timing chain instead of a timing belt, and thus doesn't need the expensive tear down every 105,000 miles to replace the belt. As for transmission, I've never driven a CVT. I'm sure they're fine for general purpose, but they don't seem to hold up for those who offroad their cars frequently. And unless you can find a manual with a dual range transfer case, an auto is probably going to be better offroad than a manual. My 4EAT has been great.
@@softroadingthewest I just discussed the oil consumption issue with a Subaru service advisor, he told me 2012's are out of the extended warranty for the oil consumption fix so you may want to check with Subaru ASAP to confirm? 2013's are still covered he said. He also said Foresters were still having oil consumption problems on early 2017 models, fyi. 2018 models on up are supposed to be ok.
@@danmc2678 Oh really? Honestly I've never looked into it with any depth, I seem to recall reading the lawsuit settlement resulted in extending the warranty on the short block to 10 years/100,000 miles. But I've never actually talked to anyone about it. Fortunately it's not a major issue for me, but I'll have to see what I can find out about that...I did assume I had that in my back pocket...
Off topic, but news of the ongoing wildfires on the West Coast is now making headlines over here in the UK. I hope you, your family, friends, and everyone you know is ok.
We are safe here in the city where I live. We have a large fire raging nearby, but the winds have shifted and it has slowed its progress towards town. I have friends who live closer to it than me who are on evacuation alert, but it looks like they'll be fine. Unfortunately many further up in the hills have lost their homes and businesses.
Hi, great video! Have you thought about upgrading your fuel canister to the Rotopax? Unlike the Fuelpax, the Rotopax is roto-molded and much thicker. It should be able to contain the vapor and prevent expansion.
Perhaps if the Fuelpax fails, I'll move in that direction. The whole system is on the pricey side for my budget approach (thus the Fuelpax in the first place) but the swelling/venting issue really is a PITA.
I was actually going to dive into that, but the video was already over-long so I let it go. Ultimately it was just a failure on my part to adequately secure a connection that was subject to extra stress. I had actually previously thought about reinforcing that very fail point, but never got around it...and paid the price for my procrastination. :-)
Don.... another excellent video. I'm new to the world of "overlanding" and vehicle camping and your information is extremely helpful. The little Walmart folding table you showed.... would it also be suitable for sitting on, like a backup stool?? Also, on the Ice Chest.... have you tried using dry ice to extend your cooling time? Any thoughts? Thanks again for your nicely filmed and delightful commentary. Very helpful indeed!! Best wishes..... Ax.
The table is not sturdy enough to sit on. These days I frequently set my 4-gallon water jug on it, and that's definitely pushing its limits. The problem with dry ice is that it is TOO cold. It will deep freeze anything that's in the cooler with it. Seems like it would get expensive as well, and would be one more errand to run during the already-busy hours before leaving on a trip. I've since replaced the cooler with a reasonably priced 12-volt fridge and SO glad I did.
I really like your practical approach to overlanding. A lot of channels have guys/gals with $100,000 worth of rig and toys, and what they do just isn't something the average person can afford. Your approach shows that getting out there and exploring can be done by most anybody that really wants to. Thanks for the vids, and the advice. Cheers.
I couldn’t of said it any better
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Truth!
Ditto
Not so fast there partner. I was thinking something similar until I was watching one of his newer videos. In the description box there was a partial list of his gear with links to where you could get the same stuff. Mostly through amazon. So I clicked on the link for his basic 2 burner camp stove it was $349 for a camp stove. I purchased one at a yard sale for $5 and used it for over 20 years and guess what? It cooked the meals just the same. So next I clicked on his fry pan…$60 made in france. It was like that if not worse the farther down the list I went. By the time I had clicked on 5-6 items I added them up and they cost more than a full set of tires for my truck that I use for camping and overlanding. It was ridiculous how expensive the stuff was Look for some of his newer videos and do what I did and you will see what I mean. And listen ive got nothing against buying whatever gear you want if you can afford it but dont make it sound like anybody can just go out and drop a couple thousand dollars on 5 or 6 items and off they go. You want affordable I should make a list of the stuff I started with including my $5 grill lol
Perfect is the enemy of good enough. As long as your craftsmanship gets the job done for you, it's right.
Well put!
I like watching your videos as a possibility that I can get outdoors without the $50k+ vehicle and $30k of gear.
Love the iPad sponsor disclaimer 😊😆
Efficiency is the name of the game. Quick setups/tear downs really make for better camping
Great points you've addressed
Totally agree with what Brain Dohertty and bburgess67 said below. I love how you keep it simple and explain why you do so. I have a 2017 Tacoma TRD and all I've done is put on BFG KO2s and that was expensive enough. When I see these guys spending thousands on bumpers, roof racks etc. its insane. How many of us can drop $20k on those types of upgrades? You do what you do with what you have - commendable.
I've been a leisure camper for many years and ease of everything is the key to a good trip.
Another valuable video. Thanks. I’m starting to feel embarrassed at how much my gear acquisition is mimicking yours. 🥴
A few years ago, I started freezing water in plastic milk jugs for the cooler. Prevents the mess as the ice melts, and becomes a source of water as well. Free too. Win/win/win
Haha, that's almost exactly what I do. I discovered that the bottles of "Sparking Ice" (some fruity carbonated water beverage which one of my kids randomly picked out on a pit stop one day) are unusually sturdy, and fit perfectly in the bottom of my cooler, so I have 7 of those refilled with water which I deep-freeze in a chest freezer. I just lay them across the bottom of the cooler to perfectly form a new floor of ice. I know it's not as ideal as having the cold above, but I pack the most vulnerable items like raw meat at the bottom right on the ice, and the less vulnerable items at the top, and the refrigeration works quite well. I can't stand having my food in a mess of melting ice. And yes! Backup water! I ended up drinking one of them on the way home from eastern Oregon. :-)
I’ve been doing that for the last few decades and I recommend the heavy duty jugs of water and also if filling them at home I use water that has been out through my Berkey water purifier. It’s the only one that can legally be called a water “purifier” as it purifies the water to 99.9999999% pure. That’s 7 digits to the right of the decimal point. No other filter works that well. It removes everything from the water including pharmaceuticals which are some of the most difficult to remove. I sound like a commercial for the Berkey but I’m not associated with them other than I’m a customer/fan of their systems. I take it with me every year in the fall when I camp for 5-8 weeks straight and all the water we drink is run through the Berkey. Even water we are going to boil goes through the Berkey first because it doesn’t just kill stuff it removes stuff like heavy metals and pesticides and other chemicals.
The bottles of water that I couldn’t remember the name of lol is Arrowhead water. The shape of their gallon size (its actually a bit less) makes them easy to store or stack and they fit in lots of places most others won’t. Also the bottle is strong enough to reuse with your own filtered water from home. I freeze them in one of my big upright freezers at home and I use several different sizes. This way I can lay the big almost square ones on the bottom of my cooler then I can slip the other sizes in amongst what I’m storing in their finally I put some of the smaller individual sized bottles on the top. These usually melt first so I can drink them as they melt and I shift some of the medium size bottles up higher in the cooler. Since cold “falls” I keep bringing bottles up near to the top. If I remember to keep my cooler in the shade outside on a bed of debri like pine needles and not stuck in the hot vehicle it will make everything stay cold longer. I have a really big white Coleman cooler that takes two grown men to move. And no it’s not one of those roto molded Yeti style cooler. Anyways ive had meat stay frozen for several weeks doing it my way. Something that is key to this working is I purchase the stuff I want frozen about a month before I I go. I store everything in one of my big upright freezers for that entire month. That way I know the stuff is beyond frozen when I fill the cooler. Oh and I keep the cooler inside the house not the garage with some of the frozen water jugs in it for several days before I load it up to go. Its not as much of a hassle as it seems lol. These things make huge differences when it comes to keeping stuff frozen. I like to bring ice cream that nobody but me knows about and serve it up after two weeks in the boonies and its still frozen solid. With a little effort you can make just about any cooler behave like one of those expensive ones and if you read the instructions on those coolers they tell you to do what I just did lol. Cheers
Between my wife and I we've had 18 Subaru wagons, starting w/ a 1981 ...1.6 lol. They have been SUCH a companion in our outdoor lives.
I had no idea the center support part in the Gazelle tent was metal and could be used with a light. That’s a complete game changer haha!
I love how you display the functionality and size of everything! Subbed!
Maybe somebody mentioned it or not, there's a type of gas can you can get at Marine stores where it's wide and the cap is on top, with a built in vent. They're usually used with small boats/dinghies. One of those might work better for you! Thanks for the video man! I picked up the T4 Gazelle Overland earlier this year and just got an Outback, looking forward to doing some light trips.
Thank you so much for all your feedback on the equipment you use. Like the person a few comments ago said majority of the people on here recommend much more and much more expensive things then are technically needed but your honesty really helps. Thank you again
From one Subie owner to another, thank you for your channel. Good updates on gear. Curious about new plans for water, I know you have been getting update for us. Thanks again. Stay safe around the fires.
I'm still undecided about water handling. I haven't really devoted much thought to it yet...for now just back to carrying some 1-gallon jugs like I used to do. It was sure nice having running water on demand, but failure aside, there were a few aspects of my system I wasn't entirely happy with, so I'm going to take my time and re-think the whole thing. Thanks for watching!
I use a 5 gallon jug with valve and it works fine for me. Jugs for the rest of it. I too keep it simple and easy. However, some may say I’m old and lazy, I call it whatever works for you! And yes, I’m old and sometimes lazy. LOL
My favourite channel by a long way thanks Donald. Owning a Forester SH that is lowered and hits every pot hole on 18 inch rims looking to change it up as a fresh new build for camping trips.
Nice, have fun with the new build!
if your shit isnt easy or cumbersome to set up/break down... thats when your calm and relaxing start to erode. fast and easy/reliable gear, KEEPS you happy and relaxed
I've been travelling about the west in my 2013 Honda Pilot (FWD), with my T3 as the main abode. I carry too much to sleep inside the vehicle much.
I was on the Alvord Desert for 2 wks, and just KNEW that a gnarly wind/dust storm was going to send me and my 2 mth old T3 rolling along the playa. Luckily that storm was preceded by a teaser windstorm that convinced me to tie down my stuff like I wanted to keep it. I even took the initiative to learn some knots!
The issues I experienced with the tent were:
Zippers - I hope they switch to YKK. The Alvord Desert separates the men zippers from the boy zippers. That fine powdery soil gets into spots beach sand can only dream of. I ended up zipping one door for the remainder of the trip because the zipper (for the no see-um) broke. Tried brushing them clean and coating with some olive oil. So far, so good. I'm not certain YKK zippers would've saved the day, but my sleeping bag, and every top performing piece of gear I have had them.
Rainfly - for normal use, it's great, I think. I would not have imagined a dust storm blowing a crap-ton of dirt up & under the rainfly into the tent and covering EVERYTHING. I don't know what could be done about something like that, but that's what designers are for.
Also, that door design. From my perspective, it seems like the tension on the hub, when staked & tied off, creates too much stress on the door zippers.
I've got a Sierra Designs mummy bag that's 40 yrs. old and has NEVER let me... down. 😉
I know I've rambled a bit, but I've been out for almost 3 mths w/o too much contact, and I couldn't help commenting on the T3.
As always, great reviews, sir.
Love the Les Stroud vibes of this channel. Keep it up
I can’t click on these new videos fast enough! Love the channel
Haha, keep on clicking! :-) Thanks for watching!
Don, thank you so much for this video! I follow your channel because I run a 2016 Jeep Compass and its rear cargo area is probably pretty darn close to yours. Space is limited and knowing what you carry helps me tremendously. Anyway, I returned my Gazelle T3 and put a T4, for more interior space, on Amazon's save list. I will add a Midland 105GMRS CB radio. I had a Midland CB in a '78 Dodge Custom Van when they were "hip" in my 30's; never experienced any issues with the Midland. For lights I use the strings of Luminoodle and power them with an Anker battery; I pack three Ankers of various sizes for my cell phone, bedside fan and other small chargeable items. For Christmas I use ENO string lights that produce different colors. Of course, a good adult beverage is part of the celebration (Pendleton). I also use the Coleman cot but the pad is too thin and I can feel the springs and the frame. I bought a base camp pad by Teton which is wider, longer and thicker making the cot super comfortable. If I sleep in the back of the Compass I use the Teton by itself and it works well for me. My power unit is the Jackery 240 which was $269; shelling out $470 for the 500 or $1000 for the 1000 was beyond my financial limits. I just needed something to power my Alpicool C20 fridge and an electric blanket for those super cold nights. I have a drone but it seems that other campers out here don't appreciate the noise and possible invasion of privacy. A couple of them have been shot out of the air. I thought about adding a hitch and using one of those rear metal baskets to carry extra fuel and a portable potty or whatever gear is needed. I have a cargo basket on the roof but my kayak and all of the "wet" gear goes on top. Stay safe and our prayers go out to everyone on the West Coast (I have family and friends out there).
That's awesome the Jackery 240 will run your fridge. I'm definitely thinking along the lines of a small Alpicool or similar.
@@softroadingthewest I'm really pleased with the Alpicool C20 and the price is reasonable, $203 from Amazon to my front door. I have it plugged into a 110 outlet in my gear room and store my adult beverages in it. I set the temperature for 39 degrees fahrenheit (or you can set it in centigrades) and it will vary three to four degrees, depending on the ambient temperature in the room. The motor is whisper quiet even when the motor "kicks on" and it produces minimum condensation inside. When I first bought it I set the temp at 34 F and a sheet of ice formed on the walls so I elevated the temp to 39 and haven't had an issue with icing since. When you use it in your Subi, you may want to place a cover over it as the ambient temperature (usually warmer in a vehicle) will affect its performance. It's advised that the vents on the sides are never blocked. I am going to make a recflective cover for mine. I will buy a small roll of it at Lowe's. A friend of mine fashioned a cover for his Dometics using cardboard and a short roll of leather material bought at Walmart. He says it helps in the performance of its motor.
Hey that’s great to know about the fridge running on a Jackery 240.
I get inspired of the capabilities of the forester every video! Really digging the build out in the trunk. Can’t believe you have not had anyone sleep in it yet! That’s insane!!
Makes me want to take mine for a trip every time I see you have so much fun, cheers!
Well, it's a pretty cramped space to sleep in. I used to only sleep in the car, before I got the tent, with a different platform build that was roomier, and even there I quickly got tired of squirming around in the car to change clothes or get into/out of bed. My daughter slept once on the old platform while I slept outside in a small one-man tent, but once I got the Gazelle, she immediately preferred being in there with me. I still feel the day *could* come when I will be grateful I've got a spot to sleep in the car. :-)
softroadingthewest Yup when the day comes and you need to sleep in the trunk, you’ll be glad you had it there. cheers for the reply!
I really like and admire your set-up, very practical and cost effective too. Especially like your galley, sort of a tribute to the old teardrop campers in it's way, and your stove is excellent. You could churn out a lot of vittles on that unit if need be! Thanks for your content, always a pleasure "visiting" with you!
Thanks for watching!
I sure appreciate your approach to gear and your honesty about what works and what doesn’t! These ideas obviously resonated with many of us! Yours is a fresh voice in a sea of high dollar “cool” stuff! If I had to wait till I could buy all of those things, I’d never get out in the boonies! Thank You!
Thanks Dan!
New to the overland experience, have watched many different videos on this subject yours is one of the best I’ve seen. Thank you for the info on all the gear. Stay safe & happy trails 🏕
A bit of advice concerning the gas can on the roof. If you put a thin piece of white board on top of it with a couple of spacers made of wood or plastic it will prevent it from bulging so much. I had to carry mine in the same position as yours for quite awhile and that helped tremendously with that issue.
My camping context is not the same as yours, but I go out to camp and enjoy the outdoors, not spend unnecessary time setting up camp. That being said, each of us has a context for our camping adventures and balance of how much time and energy and money we can or are willing to spend. Your explanation was done well and hopefully will help people recognize we each have different criteria for what we need/desire for our camping experience. Thanks for the videos!
You have such a sensible, cost sensitive and efficient method. Very impressive. I have watched a number of your videos, subscribed and liked. You have a lot of creative ideas as well. Thank you for giving me and, no doubt, others inspiration.
Recently got a 08 outback. Working on getting my setup going less overland more long stays I picked up a white duck regetta tent and a wood stove so it's good to know good gear to think about. I'm excited to get out and test it!
I like what you were saying while leaning on your little table if I might add something. For me having everything set up and/or break down quickly is important because as you said I’m out there to enjoy the outdoors, the trees, the wind, the view etc and the less time I spend setting up means more time enjoying the outdoors. If I pull into a beautiful spot about an hour before dark I don’t want to spend 45 minutes setting up my camp site. Thats 30 minutes to long and 30 minutes I could have been enjoying my surroundings.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
As a sailor trip planning is the most important part of the journey.
Would be nice to show your laptop planning and transfer of waypoints to your portable device, I think it would be beneficial to many non-tech people.
Thanks
JP
It's a long-planned video that I hope to get to someday. But in the meantime...with Gaia GPS, there is no transfer process. Both your desktop computer and your mobile device are linked to your Gaia account. What you do on one device automatically shows up on the other device. I can mark waypoints and routes while doing research on my desktop computer, and they just show up on my iPad. And when I'm out on the trail, I can record tracks or mark waypoints I find along the way while using my iPad, and when I'm back in front of my computer, there they are. :-)
Thanks for the info about your software, it is actually very good, less human intervention hence less chances for introducing errors
I’ve been using a 97’ Suburban for Overlanding, which has its ups and downs (mainly fuel economy). I was just given a 2004 Forester XS and was glad to find your page. This is great advice, especially as I’ve gotten use to virtually unlimited space in the Burb.
My setup is under 15 mins. Cause when the weather is bad, I’d like to be warm and dry in a jiffy.
That was a great video. Surprising just how much you can pack in and on the Subie👍 It’s always nice to get your reviews of equipment. Can’t wait for the next video. Adventure on 👍🚙🏕🍻 P.S. Didn’t you just celebrate hitting 25k subscribers and now you’ve passed 26k?! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🎊🎉
Thanks Geoff! It's always an interesting challenge to balance what to bring vs the space available while also aiming towards my constant goal of rapid deployment and breakdown. :-)
The Jackery and ither solar generatirs are game changers....I will be living in my Subaru and could not do that without my Jackery
I just bought a Gazelle T4 because of this video! I can't wait to try it out!
Re: your table and time; 3 years ago, I went around the US on my Goldwing on a time-limited (20 days) trip (2 nights each in Key West and Bas St. Laurent, NB; 1 night at all other stops) and didn't even take a table, to save time (and packing space). You're spot on with simplicity!
I carry two 3.5 gallon rotopax on the rack of my land cruiser. I used to stack them and that was a nightmare. I had nothing but problems. I now have two separate mounts to carry them separately, but I still ratchet strap them both down. Love the rotopax, but you can’t just set it and forget it.. Great video👍
Yeah tents are now dave proof thanks for the videos am from the uk sadly lost me dad to alzhimers two months ago thinking of getting out more.
I bought the gazebo. I am surprised by how much wind the screen stops. It is big enough to put a cot in and have a ton of space to organize gear. Used for three months straight while in SD last summer and it was salvation from the sun. Only time I dropped downn the roof was when the winds were 40+ sustained. I stacked totes and tied the collapsed roof them. Prevented a catostrphic collapse due to wind. FYI, the roof holds quite a bit of water and the seals hold well.
New subscriber, but I’ve kinda watched you off of Jason’s channel. That tent is pretty cool. Super fast setup. You, at least in the Subaru, camp like I do out of my Suburban. I use a cot tent. It does take longer to setup, but when you figure my bed is part of the tent, and my bedding is already in it, it probably washes, time-wise. I do carry a pop up. I use it to bridge to back of the suburban and the tent. I’ve got the same little table, mines aluminum, love it. Cool video. I’m looking forward to exploring it more. 😁👍
We have something in common....my 16 yr old wants to inherit my Subaru Forester and camp. I never new it could be done as efficiently until watching your videos. Thank you for the reviews and explanation why it works for you. Did you happen to record: how you wired your 📻 cb under dash and up through the roof?? 🧰 Thank you for all the time spent recording for us-
I did shoot the install of my radio (like, a year ago, LOL) but it's just been too low a priority to get around to editing it. My antenna wire goes out the back of the radio and through a rubber grommet in the firewall (my Forester has a dedicated pass-through point up behind the pedals, just had to punch a small hole through the rubber seal) then it runs up the A-pillar along with the wiring for my roof-mounted lights. Previously I had pressed it down into the channel between the windshield and the A-pillar and sort of sealed it in with black silicone, but I had to tear it out when I broke my windshield. I recently came up with a new simple DIY approach to getting wires to the roof and I will be covering that in a video at some point, hopefully soon. :-)
Great information, thank you so much! I am looking for a overlanding next summer, but I am a newbie, so your tips are really helpful. I’m surprised you don’t sleep in the car but the tent looks awesome. I’ve been looking for one I can stand up in and easily set up and take down. Loved your demonstration of how easy it is to take down and fold up.
I slept in the Forester for a couple of years, but it's a small, cramped space. The spacious Gazelle tent felt like an upgrade even though it required a little more setup and breakdown work. :-)
Thanks for keeping us updated 👍🏼 I’m glad you talked about your cot because I’ve been thinking about getting one. The jackery 500 is the next big item on my list thanks to your constant good remarks about it. Can’t wait to see what other cool gear comes your way!
Thanks Shawn! Jackery also just came out with a new "300" model which is a little more affordable but has some nice upgrades over the 500 as well.
Great video Donald. Love how budget minded your gear is. Helps keep me in check when I look at things. Because of you I bought the Gazelle T3 when your first video came out. For fridge, I recommend looking into the Iceco brand. I learned about this company through UA-camr, Hobotech. I went with the VL45 which comes with the well known SECOP compressor. I have used it a number of times this year with my Jackery 1000 and it has worked flawlessly.
Great to hear, I will definitely take a look at those.
Holy cow, dude! Love your channel and really appreciate you making this vid! Rock on and be safe!
This was a great video Donald and I didn’t realise it was from a year ago lol. I should have noticed the vehicle lol
I could watch your videos all day long.
Great video man! Just so you know, I use a WiFi iPad with GAIA, but bought a dual GPS receiver. It has worked well for me. All this info here was great tho, thanks!
Yes, excellent point, I did forget that was possible. A nice option especially for someone who already has a wifi iPad. I got my iPad specifically for this purpose so it made sense for me to go straight for the GPS-enabled model, but I forget that most people probably already had iPads long before I got mine. :-)
I also bought a Dual Electronics Bluetooth gps for an existing non cellular iPad I had. It works great with Gaia!
Hi from north Idaho. Nice review video, thanks. For the gas can, you could make a blanket/bag to slip over it using duct wrap insulation. This would help keep it from getting overheating and swelling up.
PS, I've had Foresters for almost 25 yrs and love them. Haven't kitted my out for camping the way that you have, though I do exploration in Idaho and Montana.
Very useful thanks. I’m sorry to hear about the Gazelle model you use. It was on my bucket list. We will see what the new one looks like next year.
Hopefully will turn out to be worth the wait. I'm very curious to see what the changes will be.
Greetings from the other side of the smoke (Klamath Falls) I was surprised to see you upload today. I know Eugene is getting hammered by the smoke from the Holiday Farm fire. It's good to see you faring well enough to be filming and uploading.
Fortunately I happened to go out on the morning of Labor Day to film this.The Holiday Farm fire started that night and since Tuesday morning we have been shrouded in the thickest smoke I've ever seen in Eugene, even dating back to the field burning days of the 1970s. It's been impossible to be outdoors ever since...I lucked out that I got it done when I did! Stuck inside now so just focusing on getting as much editing done as I can. :-)
Very nicely put together, thank you for sharing! The one suggestion I would have is up the power of your radio (some new high power GMRS rigs are coming soon so there are several on sale now) and use a bigger external antenna that is not obstructed by your rack. I went from CB to ham and running 40-50 watts with a full size mobile antenna I can reach many many miles on VHF or UHF in the desert around here (Reno, NV).
also a ham here, I second the suggestion to get a higher power GMRS and to get the antenna into clear space. I still run CB when I'm running trails and gGambler 500 events.
Just flawless, loved it!
We'd love to join you on one of your trips!!!
Awesome recap on how the gear is all working for you. Saving as a favorite and will check out your Amazon links.
Donald - Gas can suggestion: A. Build a reflective housing with ample ventilation on all sides (think sandwich). B. Construct a simple sensor such that: if the can still swells within that housing, it presses on a contact which will alert you in some manner (like a simple buzzer). At least you will be alerted before a problem arises on a pleasant 105° day.
A. is straightforward, B. will take some makerspace dude, but is trivial.
That's a great idea. You're right, it wouldn't be that hard to make some kind of shade for the can...I bet that would make a significant difference. I think it could be done in such a way that a visual check is still possible, as I get in and out of the car so frequently anyway and have already developed the habit of keeping an eye on it...
With great thanks, I am a new sub! Really, REALLY appreciate your “don’t have to overspend” fiscal mindset, and your gloriously practical approach to gear (and how much time & effort it takes to set up & maintain gear)!!! I may not “overland”, but I do want to be able to explore & camp anywhere the mood strikes me and my vehicle will carry me (wait... is THAT “overlanding”?? 😂😂), and while we have recently sacrificed to invest in a capable vehicle (Toyota 4Runner), that purchase left no $$ in our family budget for fancy vehicle mods or high-end gear. I am SO grateful to find a UA-camr who seems to be focused on enjoying the experience with minimal/reasonable cost furnishings that require as little effort as possible to use. I look forward to exploring your other videos and gear recommendations (LOVE that pop up tent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Thanks again 💐💐💐
I'm happy to hear you've found it helpful! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing your gear, I have been thinking about those LED light strips as well instead of the work lights attached to the battery consuming a load of power. I bought two recessed LED spots that you usually use for the kitchen or for outdoor panels on the floor. They run at 12V and damn it was one hell of a mess getting the cables going (I ran the cables through the trunk door where the cables for the licenseplate run, down to the C-Pillar where those plastic hooks are, and back up to the rear middle trunk light with the switch, attached it so I can choose to have perm light, only light when the trunk is open or completly off). I put them into the trunk door where those round rubber bumpers are (the ones plugging the chassis), so that when you open the trunk now, the lights are shining from above right onto the kitchen, not too bright but when its dark you can see everything. Good thing about it, is that the interioir plastic lining of the trunk gate is obscuring the lights when your standing right in the middle, so you dont get blinded. Was like 20€ with premium recessed LED spots.
I love your kitchen setup by the way, its just so functional without any useless stuff that just adds weight and costs. Also, the wood allows to change and adjust it whenever wanted, just love that.
UA-cam doesnt let me slideshow anymore, so I have uploaded it via imgur imgur.com/a/2vBAH9g
And yes its a mess with the cables, but only took me 2-3 hours for both lights on my SH Forester. Also added some other camper conversion pictures. Its far from being ready yet.
That's a *sweet* setup! Nice work!
Missed the camp chair. Great video for us minimalists. Thanks.
I've always just had cheap basic folding camp chairs we got probably 20+ years ago. Nothing worthy of note. Although...I did somehow just manage to lose one of them, so some interesting new (used) camp chairs *will* be showing up in future episodes. I will be talking about those once I get a chance to use them.
Gme radios make a fantastic through-glass adhesive windscreen mounted antenna that offers more range than the little magnetic mounted aerials, and swapping across to a permanently mounted "whippy" type aerial can give you a massive increase in range. Definately going to check out that t3 type tent though, putting together plans for a off-road forester build.
I'm about to buy a forester, just bumped on your channel. Second video I watched, you've earned a subscriber.
Thanks for watching, enjoy the Forester!
I use scepter military jerry cans. They are plastic 5 gal cans.
They are designed to expand with heat and vapor expansion.
In fact, they even sell a wrench to crank down and open the cans. It can be tough if they are full and expanded with vapor. They can expand quite a bit, which may look alarming but is actually accounted for in the design.
Rotopax is a reputable company and I assume the expansion of plastic is accounted for.
I would not worry about fuel spill due to expansion. The only thing to maintain would be the seal in the screw top. I would carry a spare or buy an extra to replace if your cap starts leaking.
I am running a Fuelpax can, made by Rotopax but their less expensive line. The manual specifically stated it should be vented by removing the cap when it swells. :-/ I do hope one day to build a custom rear bumper setup where a fuel can, either this one or another one, could be mounted upright, and even if it needed to be vented, it would be a simple matter. Fortunately I do a lot of my trips in fall/winter/spring and at least don't have to worry about the gas can at those times. :-)
The folding table you use is the one I’ve been using for years. I actually have 2 of them and they are perfect. Bought a bigger table the folds up smaller and hate it, it’s too hard to set up and wasn’t worth it. Love your channel.
I was skeptical when I bought it but I am extremely pleased with this purchase, it has worked out far better than I expected!
I like your gears.. we have the jackery 240 and after 3 days of camping we still have 90% and we run a small fan overnight.. I will look for the same tent as yours, thanks!
great information for those of us just starting out. prices have skyrocketed in the past year+ though.
I bought the iPad mount you replaced. I had a piece of glass custom cut to fit down in the cubby in front of my gear shift and mounted it and my iPad mini down low. Works great and is rock solid. Your assessment is dead on, it needs additional bracing tone rock solid.
Ahh, interesting approach, very clever.
@@softroadingthewest the big downside is having to look down to see the map. Eyes off the trail or road ain't exactly great or safe.
15 seconds in, love the sound of the new lower profile exhaust system.
Awesome mate, thanks for running through all your gear. Very informative as always, great stuff 👍👍🇦🇺
Fuel canister ! I often travel in Africa where you are not always guaranteed that there is fuel at your next stop. We often have 4420 liter “jerry. cans” on a roof rake. Topping up your vehicles fuel tanks as soon as you can lowers the center of gravity and in your case will prevent the swelling of the canister. A bit difficult to “lend” some to a mate though.
Awesome list, some must haves with a little bit of extras. I like keeping things simple!
Definitely have to keep it to a minimum with a car this small. :-)
That Gazelle is slick as snot!
I absolutely agree with You. I think at most times setting up/taking down the camp actually isn't the most enjoyable part of camping, it is the practical necessity. The enjoyable part begins, when the camp is set up and you can start to spend time in it: prepare a meal (if that is what you enjoy - for some it is annoying necessity also :P ), wander a bit around your campsite, kick back and relax, maybe open an IPA ;) Although one necessary chore I usually enjoy is collecting firewood. I guess it feels ok because it also gives a chance to explore the surroundings. And I feel like a mighty gatherer returning the camp with huge pile of fire material :D
But generally yes - it is totally must to make the setting up part so easy it goes fast, especially for when you arrive at dark.
Nice informative video as always, keep up the good work!
I used to think of collecting firewood as a PITA and would always try and bring firewood with me, but I agree, it has turned into a pleasurable & satisfying part of the experience that I have come to truly enjoy.
Nice video. I also use my iPad mini 4 with Gaia. If you don't have the cellular version you can use an external gps paired to the tablet for the signal.
Yep, I completely forgot about that! This is an excellent solution for anyone who already owns a wifi iPad.
Time stamps?... thanks but no thanks, I can't skip quality content 👌. But thanks for talking about the Gaia GPS + iPad, I've been curious about that. We're thinking of getting a cheap used tablet solely for running Gaia, when we do get Gaia. Waiting for these dang 🔥🔥🔥 to burn out so we can explore again. Chance of rain next week 🤞. Hope you're staying safe with that Holiday Farm fire over there. It's so sad.
I know, these fires are unbelievable. Holiday Farm has slowed considerably with the shift in winds and we got some additional firefighters as well (still woefully undermanned but every bit helps). We're safe in the city, just persistently socked in with thick smoke and everything covered in ash. Hoping they can get things contained enough soon to get the highways open again. I can't even begin to imagine what the drive up the McKenzie is going to look like now.
@@softroadingthewest oh man I know! We were planning on driving out there in October/November... but that's just going to have to be pushed back a bit now. We moved to PDX from Texas January this year. We fell in love with the beauty of Orgeon and decided to move. We barely scratched the surface of exploring what Oregon has to offer. These fires are just devastating.
Epic Setup Breakdown! Thx
Great info! This helps when considering new gear for our adventures!
Love the channel, you do awesome stuff. A request from me is more cooking content, you seem to be a great cook. Thanks keep it up cheers
Haha, I love to cook and love to make cooking segments! Not everyone loves to watch them, but this is JUST the encouragement I need to do more of it!! :-)
@@softroadingthewest I also love the cooking segments - keep them coming! :)
Have to say, looking forward to the video on the RAM mount setup you have going.
I really appreciate the fast setup consideration.....I will be moving around a lot and slow, involved setup and breakdown would get old fast
Thanks for the tips. I just started putting together my camping gear list.
I have the same radio set up. And you're correct it is great.
Nice! I have a buddy with the MTX115 but I felt for my uses the 105 for $50 less was largely adequate.
The gasoline drum, I lined it with aluminum adhesive tape, to insulate it 🖤
Wow! Not only did the video come out visually stunning, but the audio quality is AMAZING!! What type of mic did you use?
That is the Rode Video Micro connected to my camera. I'm pretty happy with this little mic given its size and entirely reasonable price.
Good content once again. Thanks for showing us what you use on the trails. George.
Just discovered your channel, thanks to Coyote Works. Thanks for sharing your vids.
Thanks for coming over from Coyote Works! I am a fan of Casey's videos as well.
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I’m a new subscriber and really enjoyed this video as well as a couple of others that we watched. I searched “Subaru overlanding” and found your channel mainly because we want a smaller, more reliable vehicle that we can use as a daily driver and for weekend exploring. 2 questions: 1. Do you think the Forester can be used as a daily/weekend vehicle? 2. Do you get good gas mileage? The used 4 Runners and Land Cruisers we’ve been reviewing don’t seem to get very good mileage. Thanks again for your practical approach to overlanding! We look forward to enjoying more episodes.
1. That's how I use mine.
2. Decent, for a trail-capable mini-overlander. Around 25 mpg on the highway, 18 around town/stop & go filming on the trail. Note, that's fully loaded with my gear inside, gear on the roof, and running heavy all-terrain tires. Before I started modding the car I got around 30 mpg on the highway.
softroadingthewest Thank you very much!
I just found you (June 2021) and had never heard of the term softroading. Love it. Watched you 12 favorite camp meals and was hooked. The plastic folding table comes in aluminum. Sturdier and takes hot stoves. I bought mine at Walmart for about $13 but that was a few years ago.
I need that tent 👍
Hi Donald, Thank you for sharing your experiences. When you break it all down, there are many layers to your overlanding adventures. You have managed to contain everything you need in a package called a Subaru Forester. When you consider some people have rigs twice your size, you have to be more space conscious and resourceful, which I believe you have achieved and will continue to hone. Can I get personal and ask....what have you arranged in your setup for the call of nature?
Most of the time, a shovel and a walk into the woods. :-) Though I do also carry a 5-gallon bucket and plastic bags that fit it, for times/places where that's impossible. The Gazelle provides the privacy if I'm out with other people and there isn't a forest to disappear into.
Poor Gazelle! hhaha. I
@@softroadingthewest Thanks for the info. I guess it's one of the basic needs that I stress about. Don't know why, except I've got an unusual gut.
It's rad that camping has a new name, "overlanding"...
Camping is a byproduct of overlanding, because you need to sleep after traveling/exploring all day before continuing the journey the next day. While some people go camping for the sake of camping - they set up camp at a destination and enjoy camping AT that destination - overlanding, as most people see it, is more about the journey, the exploration, and generally involves setting up camp somewhere new each night, and breaking camp each morning. This is an important distinction, because if I was just going out for the sole purpose of camping, I would not necessarily choose all of these specific items.
Many well-known overlanders around the world don't necessarily camp each night, e.g. in Africa where they will often stay in a lodge if there happens to be one. They're still overlanding...traveling and exploring, and sleeping when night comes. Some of the time, they make camp, some of the time, they may use local accommodations. There aren't any lodges where I go, so camping every night it is. While I'm, you know, overlanding. :-)
I was watching your flooded subaru when this video showed up!!!!!!!!!!!
Very good information! Thank you. Just getting into this and it gave me lot's of Ideas! Subbed
A better fuel storage system for you might be a boat fuel tank. You can get horizontal mount fuel tanks with the caps on the top. I'm sure you can find one that is tough enough.
This is something I kicked around a long time ago, actually back when I still had a roof basket and was tired of ratchet-strapping a 5-gallon jerry can into it. I ultimately decided against it because I didn't want a gas can installed permanently on my roof...I only carry extra fuel when I might actually need it, the rest of the time, my Fuelpax sits in the garage, out of the elements, and not adding extra weight to the car. My other concern was filling it up. In Oregon, self-service fueling is against the law...operating gas pumps and filling tanks must be performed by the gas station employees, and I suspect most would not climb precariously up the side of my car to get the nozzle into a roof-mounted tank. And I certainly wouldn't want to uninstall the thing just to get it filled, and then have to hoist the full tank up onto the roof and re-attach it. I lift the Fuelpax up there all the time, yeah, but it's got handles designed to make it easy to manipulate, and a simple effective mounting system. I mean, maybe there would be a way to work around all of that, but I think I'm probably more likely to just find a way to mount the Fuelpax vertically. Eventually, some custom rear bumper work may resolve the issue. :-)
@@softroadingthewest I wasn't thinking of the permanent mount type but rather the type used for out board boats. They are portable and strap down to the deck. They have handles and I liked the idea because you could use the outboard port for transferring fuel to the car.
I was considering them because they are so inexpensive compared to something that mounts on my spare tire mount. I almost never go where I need extra fuel. But I have a trip planned for the north Maine woods and my FJ's fuel tank isn't up to the task.
@@EthosAtheos Oh yeah! Had to go look them but yeah I see what you mean. That's not a bad idea at all. I abhor dealing with ratchet straps, but I bet one could DIY some kind of metal strap-down system to make it fast & easy to lock into place. If you do end up pursuing it, I would be very curious to hear how it goes!
@@softroadingthewest I will let you know. I had the same thought about avoiding ratchet straps.
Awesome video, really informative.
Ha. I love that you have the jackery too. I love that power source. It’s so convenient.
What would you recommend for a portable stove or cooling set up?
There are so many good options these days in various configurations. I used to use a little Coleman single-burner butane stove, very compact, inexpensive, and worked great, except below freezing, when the butane stops flowing properly. I've been using a Camp Chef Mountaineer for the past couple of years and I expect never to buy another stove again, it's super well built and is both more powerful and more able to be dialed down to a simmer than any other stove I've used. Not cheap and pretty bulky, but I love mine.
Thanks for the great video...looking forward to your Ram Mount video :)
Please do a review of your Subaru maintainence! How many miles, repairs, how often you change the oil, fuel economy, off road breakdowns, etc.
Not sure I could fill a video. 68,000 miles on the odometer. I don't do any maintenance above and beyond the recommendations, aside from maybe changing the air filter more often. I change the oil every 5,000 miles. I get about 18-20mpg around town/on the trail, and 25mpg with highway driving. I have not had any breakdowns on or off road, no repairs...aside from gradually stripping off more and more of the plastic bits on the underside which get a little abused with what I do. :-)
@@softroadingthewest Thanks! If you did it over again, would you buy the same year Forester? What is the oil consumption in the year you have? Wasn't there a class action lawsuit covering the 2012s? I use to have a 2001 that I had 213K miles on it before I got rid of it. Not sure what year to get at this point? CVT? Manual? 4 speed? EJ? FB? Thanks for taking the time for questions!
@@danmc2678 Yes, I still prefer this model Forester and this engine. It is indeed the FB25 known for oil consumption and yes, it's part of the lawsuit. I have found that mine does not consume excessively in normal around-town driving and highway driving to the mountains for excursions, but with prolonged high speed driving (e.g. full-day drives at freeway speeds) it will eat through a quart of oil in about a thousand miles. I keep a close eye on the oil in general, but road trips to California or whatever, I'm checking it daily. In order to have Subaru replace the short block on the extended warranty that resulted from the lawsuit, it has to undergo a dealer-sealed consumption test. I haven't done this because I know it won't fail in my usual day to day use...I would need to think to coordinate the test with a road trip, but then would be stuck without the ability to actually check my oil and top it up, so the miles driven would have to be very carefully planned out to get it back to the dealer without running it dry. So for now I just stay on top of it. I've not found it to be particularly difficult to manage.
I still prefer the FB25 because it has the newer multi-layer steel head gaskets which (supposedly) will not fail as they almost inevitably do in the EJs (I owned two previous Subarus and both experienced head gasket failure), and because it has a timing chain instead of a timing belt, and thus doesn't need the expensive tear down every 105,000 miles to replace the belt.
As for transmission, I've never driven a CVT. I'm sure they're fine for general purpose, but they don't seem to hold up for those who offroad their cars frequently. And unless you can find a manual with a dual range transfer case, an auto is probably going to be better offroad than a manual. My 4EAT has been great.
@@softroadingthewest I just discussed the oil consumption issue with a Subaru service advisor, he told me 2012's are out of the extended warranty for the oil consumption fix so you may want to check with Subaru ASAP to confirm? 2013's are still covered he said. He also said Foresters were still having oil consumption problems on early 2017 models, fyi. 2018 models on up are supposed to be ok.
@@danmc2678 Oh really? Honestly I've never looked into it with any depth, I seem to recall reading the lawsuit settlement resulted in extending the warranty on the short block to 10 years/100,000 miles. But I've never actually talked to anyone about it. Fortunately it's not a major issue for me, but I'll have to see what I can find out about that...I did assume I had that in my back pocket...
Off topic, but news of the ongoing wildfires on the West Coast is now making headlines over here in the UK. I hope you, your family, friends, and everyone you know is ok.
We are safe here in the city where I live. We have a large fire raging nearby, but the winds have shifted and it has slowed its progress towards town. I have friends who live closer to it than me who are on evacuation alert, but it looks like they'll be fine. Unfortunately many further up in the hills have lost their homes and businesses.
Hi, great video! Have you thought about upgrading your fuel canister to the Rotopax? Unlike the Fuelpax, the Rotopax is roto-molded and much thicker. It should be able to contain the vapor and prevent expansion.
Perhaps if the Fuelpax fails, I'll move in that direction. The whole system is on the pricey side for my budget approach (thus the Fuelpax in the first place) but the swelling/venting issue really is a PITA.
I have same table, for hot stuff I just use a cookie sheet that also is used to make breakfast.
Oh clever! How do you use the cookie sheet for breakfast, just on top of the stove burners?
@@softroadingthewest Yeah it doesn't look very nice all burnt . Just a tool.
another awesome video, was hoping for a postmortem on the water system :-)
I was actually going to dive into that, but the video was already over-long so I let it go. Ultimately it was just a failure on my part to adequately secure a connection that was subject to extra stress. I had actually previously thought about reinforcing that very fail point, but never got around it...and paid the price for my procrastination. :-)
@@softroadingthewest sounds like one of my projects.. Have a great week!
Don.... another excellent video. I'm new to the world of "overlanding" and vehicle camping and your information is extremely helpful. The little Walmart folding table you showed.... would it also be suitable for sitting on, like a backup stool?? Also, on the Ice Chest.... have you tried using dry ice to extend your cooling time? Any thoughts? Thanks again for your nicely filmed and delightful commentary. Very helpful indeed!! Best wishes..... Ax.
The table is not sturdy enough to sit on. These days I frequently set my 4-gallon water jug on it, and that's definitely pushing its limits.
The problem with dry ice is that it is TOO cold. It will deep freeze anything that's in the cooler with it. Seems like it would get expensive as well, and would be one more errand to run during the already-busy hours before leaving on a trip.
I've since replaced the cooler with a reasonably priced 12-volt fridge and SO glad I did.
@@softroadingthewest Don... thank for your quick and helpful reply. The follow up is most appreciated. Best wishes.... Ax