Yeah, a note to all you young people from my lifetime of experience: be very careful who you hang out with or have relationships with. There are a lot of super weird people in the world and Ezra is just one example of what can happen. Don't share very much about yourself when you're getting to know people because they can turn on you and use things against you. Be slow when you're developing relationships because you want to get to know the WHOLE person.
Lol...she definitely thinks she is a philosopher. She comes off a weird and not very bright. Her essays are corny and not profound. Sounds like she is trying to create a personality
I know that is annoying and egocentric sounding. Like waah waah, go cry yourself to sleep about it like the rest of us. Buckle up, Buttercup. This life is like war and we are all soldiers....just trying to make it through and hopefully have a few laughs and nice moments during it. This endless focus and dissection of one's feelings and thoughts is just not helpful to the mission, or to their ability to get through it. Put on your big girl panties and chin up! Don't be dragging the rest of the platoon down with you... Lol
@@sifugurusensei What??? OJ won his case and he tryed on the gloves with rubber gloves underneath. You look wayyy to young to even remember that case. Maybe that why you don't know what you are talking about.
@@juneaskew6871 thank you for thinking that I look young. I know that O.J. was aquitted. I'm in my 40's. I watched the trial and I know that he's guilty of murder. Prosecutors failed. The fact that the gloves didn't fit didn't mean anything. Norm MacDonald that did the weekend update at the time said it best: "the jury is divided between those that think O.J. is guilty and those that are really, really stupid."
I don't care who you are, it's very abnormal to sound and bear an expression of self-satisfaction at your trial for murdering your boyfriend. There is a hint of an underlying smirk on her face almost continuously. She also wants to appear bright and curious when in fact she comes across as fairly dumb and voyeuristic, a peeping Tom into someone's soul. It's disturbing and creepy. I'm so glad she was found guilty and given 50 years behind bars.
Oh! Rockin' comment. A voyeur into his soul, without A CLUE what she was seeing. Absolutely- I love this description. She was copying him to seduce him, but she didn't understand a word he was saying. Beautifully put. Haunting. I hope you're a writer too!!
He’s already mad about the waste of tax money and time cause she won’t just confess to what happened and is bullshitting ... also who would want to touch anything after them two did
@@xoswatson351 7:28 She is ridiculous by trying to submit more 'essay' and arguing about it even with the judge. Hours after hours and they haven't even mentioned the killing. This lawyer looks clumsy and unprofessional. Why is it so difficult for her to wear gloves when handling the journals?
Cami Mons no doubt. All three of them were beta males willing to put their thing in crazy because she definitely was crazy. Damn sometimes it’s embarrassing to be a male when you deal with other males willing to screw anything even crazy
She is so ridiculous it’s so hard to believe she is a real lawyer it’s crazy just listening to her with this damn essay she wants to add to as a exhibit. I don’t even know the whole story yet and it just feels like how is a journal going to prove innocence
Serena Roberts ahahahahha what did he sing if u don’t mind me asking Barry white let the music play Aaaaaaaaaaa just wanna dance the night Away haha sorry 😐 But I would have laughed it would have ruined it for me lol
The fact the Judge is allowing the defendant to describe the victims feelings through his own series of Journals/Essays is ridiculous. The defendant can play it to her/his own defense, which is bs.
@@lorel9371 right. I've heard of judges allowing the witness or defendant to give more explanation and judge tells the jury they have to form their own opinion of whether or not some things true, but never seen a defendant be allowed to "describe & explain" their own victims thoughts & feelings! RIDICULOUS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!
Also, she isn't reading the essays in entirety. Things can be interpreted completely different ways when you dont see "the big picture". I know nothing about this case and just started watching it so maybe im missing something here?
@@basicbecky6306 That's my point. The defendant is being asked to read "selected" paragraphs from HER VICTIM'S JOURNAL, then she's being allowed to interpret what he meant and felt while writing it. That's absurd! She doesn't factually know what he was thinking, feeling, describing in those essays, by doing so she is given the opportunity to falsely sway the jury in her own defense.
Well, this is from her perspective because he isn't there to give his actual side of the story, so yeah, he's gonna sound as weird as she when it's coming from her head and mouth!
The purpose of the doodles is to show that she saw the essays and that they therefore would have an affect on her mentally during this time. Very convenient that she doodles on those... 🙄
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony. Stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni! She and her defendant are both D.C. comic's Joker crazy. It makes sense if you are insane.
Exactly. She saw the pieces of work. Doodled while discussing them...wtf and doodles in court. So did Charles manson. Flaws in her character. She shouldn't do that.
If youre prone to cough Bring some damn cough syrup or tabletd in places like libraries, court, cinema, etc Ok just joking. Seriously, heart medication causes chronic coughing and that's probably why there's always a coughing maniac in crowds
"Secondary school." Attorney: "Do you mean college?" "Oh, yes!" Jesus. This girl thinks she's smarter than everybody else in the room when she can't even read simple words that the attorney gives her.
This girl is guilty as fuck. I seen approx 3 minutes total of 2 videos. No idea what murder ur circumstances she is charged of but I already know shes fucking guilty as charged.
So.. this relationship was sex, then writing essays about the experiences and then reading these essays and then translating the meaning of these essays. DULL!
the journal entries with "You" and his sin..he is writing to God not her. I havent seen anyone pick up on this . I noticedit immediately when I saw those journal entries.
I know. Relationships purely on sex; hooking up every now and then with nothing in-between or it's so consuming that it's all you do and think about. What is the point? There is so much more to relationships and life.
If I were a jury member I'd be thinking, 'Damn I should have acted like I knew her during selection!' This case epitomizes why people do not want to sit on a jury!
What with all the ‘misery’, ‘suffering’, pumpkin doodles and reading books whilst on the job… these two would have benefited from working at a soup kitchen. Both are extraordinarily self absorbed…
She sucked as an artist like most girls just like her who use the arts as a fashion statement so that they can feel unique and talented without ever have any actual talent or genuine ability. All of the artwork on her car and the images shown in the media of her art work were all blatantly plagiarized RALPH STEADMAN drawing and paintings. She tried to play them off as her own with no credit ever given to the actual artists she stole from. I wouldn't be surprised if she plagiarized everything else like so many coffee shop girls just like her. Such as her poetry, fashion sense, contrived persona.
@@sheliw838 Not a bit. But I love how she managed to become emotional when she saw her own drawing about her dog. Oh, dear me, she almost cried! Excellent performance 😂
Its as if Casey Anthony and Jodie arias had a baby .. she even looks like Casey Anthony..put dark brown straight hair. They could be twins almost.. crazy b%$#@!s
This is the most convoluted and bizarre defense ever. Using the victim's alleged journals as the script for the defense is bad enough, but the supposed analysis by the victim via the defendant is total bullshit. I do not believe she discussed anything in the journals with him, or even if the writings are about her, or even who actually wrote that stuff. Those doodles are irrelevant. All they show is that she had possession of the journals at some point, assuming she even did those doodles. This woman is pathological.
estelle patella yes it is the strangest defense ever. Unless being a bad writer is self defense for murder. I fail to see what the defense was trying to prove.
Nah...she did discuss the journals with him. She was in love with his creative spark and it didn’t matter whether or not she was the muse or inspiration of the work. She doodled on the pages so she could embed herself into the work because she admired something of herself as a part of it. Still, the use of the victim’s journals is “unprecedented” as the commentator says, and that is notable because in law when a precedent is set you then have cause and justification to use said items in future cases. It’s all tech and times or even maybe zeitgeist, which is what I find interesting at this moment and in this space in time.
@@mbd6054 gosh finally somebody said it. bunch of pseudo-philosophical works, i would write when I was studying latin and italian litterature during lyceum at 17 years old. i was just a virgin. that's it. a virgin who read too many books and didn't know how to live and act proper. a weirdo. this is weirdo stuff. real literature and essays, the one that will get you Nobel or world approval is another thing... "essays"... this is some bohemien narcisistic shit we should all avoid writing... a great quote from an italian poet: "Up the age of 18 every young boy writes... Then only two categories of people keep on writing: poets an idiots..."
@@traurigesland4622 ABSOLUTELY AGREE. People who write like this shouldn’t even have their works called ‘essays’. I remember writing dumb sh in a journal that I called ‘essays’ but rlly they were a bunch of psychopathic thoughts and narcissistic philosophical remarks that…until now…made me realise how sad and weird I used to be. I was basically brainwashed by books and literature to the extent of thinking that what I wrote was intellectual..BAHAHA 😂 Same goes with people who write rlly sketchy fan-fiction. Like if you wanna call your work ‘essays’ and have title of being an ‘author’ write something that’s actually embedded with effort and not some creepy psychedelic bullshit.
Wait so he was reading passages from his journal to her while they were having sex? I’m all the way confused with this story. All these passages, this fluid sexuality- woo this is heavy. I cant wait until they get to the actual crime!
“I won’t ask you about any more of your doodles" said the lady who continued to ask her about several more of her doodles immediately after saying she wouldn’t 🤦🏻♀️
Raquel Adauto What the hell was her point with the doodles? To prove she was with him comfortable enough to doodle lil pics. So weird, the defense attorney is taking direction from the client coz the client is a mastermind
Wow..and so disrespectful with the Court smiling and behaving like they are in the Mall drinking coffee ☕, nobody cares about her interpretations, Alex is death. This trial wasa waste of money.
It’s interesting how she never uses interjections like “um” or “uh”.. Like EVER. I think that’s why her speaking seems so concocted/like a performance.
I can't wrap my head around how all this hearsay was admitted. I get the judge said it wasn't hearsay as it wasn't admitted to assert that a particular fact was true, but holy hell! The defendant kept being asked "what did he mean by that?" That's not relevant to the defendant's state of mind! It goes directly to his state of mind, which we will never know because he's dead! I'm a lawyer myself and I just can't help but wince every time the defendant was asked to repeat words that the victim allegedly told her regarding his journal entries. It's hearsay pretending not to be hearsay to my ears. What other purpose could the relaying of these alleged conversations serve? Certainly not state of mind, as the defense kept repeating. And when she was asked to repeat what he said to her after discovering he had slit his wrist! Hearsay! My goodness. She should have just read out the entries and left the jury to determine for themselves what Alex meant by them. They didn't need a dishonest and self-serving defendant to interpret a dead man's words to them.
lostbeyondpluto Right? I’m not a lawyer, BUT my love for crime investigations has taught me hearsay is irrelevant. This is so one sided. Basically yes to everything you said I agree haha
She had three different men at the same time putting their D” in crazy. One she falsely accused of rape to the police and had to recant it admitting it was consensual. The other she murdered and lied about where and how to the police. The other was as old as her step father. All that and she’s walking around not able to tell if she is a boy or a girl with a made up man’s name (Ezra). And a last name of a guy that killed himself out of insanity in the Alaskan wilderness. The defense lawyer has nothing to do but make her boyfriend look crazy before the prosecutor gets a hold of her in court. She’s just like the Charlie Manson girls. I’m supposed to believe that she was upset about journal entries when she originally saw him writing about cannibalism and pursued him after that. She is bat sh*t crazy. The lawyer is trying damage control but it’s not working.
trailtrs1 Chris McCandless did not kill himself FYI. He starved to death because he got stranded where he was in Alaska. He was a fool. But I do admire what he did, just not HOW he did it.
So if someone told u they were gonna murder a certain person and that certain person was murdered then the information u have is just hearsay ? 75% of the stuff people under oath are saying is just hearsay lol but they're under oath so we are supposed to believe it as fact... which I dont but I'm just saying
Apart from not generally being fond of murderers, this one has a special place in my distaste for 1) being just beyond narcissistic, 2) saying 'yes' consistently before a question is even asked and 3) saying 'all the time' when she means 'frequently'. And 4) she makes my skin crawl.
Oh my gosh thank you for bringing the “yes” thing up, I don’t see anyone else talking about it but it annoyed me soo much. She was saying it where a yes wasn’t even needed.
I'd say the whole crowd was narcissistic except possibly Jason Mengle... Alex Woodward thought he was Nieztche....and Ezra thought she was an LGBTQ Silvia Plath😂
@Alphonzoe Elrich i figured that like Jodi Arias she put on the church lady outfit to blend in with the rest of the do gooder citizens that are deciding her fate. Clearly choice of clothes make her appear more volnurable as opposed to the more trendy androgenous style of clothing she wore before her arrest.
That letter had nothing to do with her. It was written to God. He addressed "You" with a capital "Y" mid sentence. The strategy was that he was speaking to her and he wasn't. Not sure if the prosecution picked up on that.
It's also a reflection of deep the defense had to go into very petty detail in hopes of giving a juror ANY teeny tiny thing to feel sympathetic towards her for. It's a sign of desperation.
Crochet Happy he was talking about her in some of them though. You can’t deny that. I understand she is guilty, but she clearly had a strange and twisted relationship
The goal of the court was not just to save time but to preserve the jury’s perspective to be as unbiased as possible, and it worked. The jury observed alllll this gaslighting and found her guilty of intentional first degree murder after only 3 hours of deliberation. She was sentenced to prison for life. This is a good example of the justice system.
Only two people will ever know what really happened in the bedroom and one is forever silent. So horrendously unfair for the Woodworth family. I don’t believe a word this walking nightmare says. Not one word.
Regardless of what the cornball threatened to do she could of left. She killed someone. Therefore her life ends as well. She has been indoctrinated into the prison system to rot. Poo poo platters for precious.
@@jackielove2737yes but at least it’s clear you can see the delusion with darrell brooks. This case is just bizarre because of the way they make her same and the specific evidence they choose to dwell on
They constantly allow women entitlements they don't allow to others these days. I think bc of the whole "me too" movement bs. Bc If it was reversed and it was a man defending himself, I'm willing to bet the journals wouldn't have been permitted. Js.
liberty jewel while that may be the case, it was mentioned that the STATE was whom brought the journals into play here, not the defendant, therefore they’re essentially just using the “evidence” (i dont really see it as evidence in this sense, moreso just justification and explanation to her state of mind in a weird way) given to them, so they, in essence, justmay due and rambled for maybe a little too long about them to prove a point that she may have had a subtle fear about alex and that was exacerbated the day of the incident so if anyones to blame for the use of the journals, its the state not the defendant but idk i dont do law stuff
They both are pretentious, they both enjoy the camera, flat affect, they both say “yes” instead of yeah. There is a shallowness to their testimony. She is so out of touch with her feelings. She needs in-depth therapy!,
He was only one of 3 relationships she was in. She didnt live with him nor was she dependent on him for financial support. If she really didnt like what they were doing she simply could just not go to his house. She wasnt stuck with him. She did like it. He was something new and adventurous. That's why she kept going back.
I find it really disgusting that Alex Woodworth, the victim, seems to be the one on trial here.. While the jury was instructed that this information was only admissible as Ezra's own interpretation of Alex's writing and beliefs, it still seems incredibly prejudicial towards Alex.. The defense strategy is obviously to assassinate Alex's character and paint him as negatively as possible. Despite the obvious motive, confession, and Ezra's attempt at manipulating the evidence/failure to report the incident. Despite having previously (likely falsely) reported her alleged "sexual assault", which has been deemed by prosecutors to be nothing more than cover up for her consensual sexual relationship with a third party (which is backed up by text messages)... This all just feels inappropriate and I am very surprised that the judge allowed much of this "evidence" to be admitted and shown to the jury. Especially with such complicated instructions.
I feel that the emotional response stems from the memories that took place durring the time she spent with Alex while doodling these. I feel that the defense attorney showed them as a way to show us that the journals were written durring a time that Ezra was around Alex. Making the content of the journal more relevant to what is going on durring their relationship.
@@stephaniedreams5529 I think the doodles go against her though. You would either have to be extremely naïve doing little drawings on his journal about cannibalism and stuff or be so covertly narcissistic. I mean someone's writing all these dark and horrifying writings and you're drawing a pumpkin or a dog?? What!?
First of all, Ezra is NOT a gender neutral name. It is unequivocally a masculine name from the ancient Hebrew texts. I have never once encountered a female with that name. Second, why can’t this girl read properly and why does she just wing it when using certain terms? She seems to pronounce many a word wrong while trying to convey a certain level of well-spokenness. Very odd.
Probably cause she’s really nervous. I used to freeze up when having to read in front of a group too. In no way am I defending her I’m just saying I could understand why she is pronouncing stuff wrong!!
I have to politely disagree with you about the name Ezra. I have actually never known anyone with this name in my 38 year life, but to me it sounds more feminine. This proves her point that it’s neutral.
@@gillmanjr87 sorry, to correct you. I'm a bit older than you but I learned already in my schooltime about the famous American poet, Ezra Pound. He lived later in Italy. He was a man.
Seems like that's ALL they did. He read passages from books during sex?!? Was sleeping w a he/she that lived with a man old enough to be her father?!? Wtf
@Amanda Schlicher Press you should get your head checked or go spend some time in the crazed killers jail cell and wait till she tweaks and thinks you have slighted her.
Doodling on every page that he asked her to listen and absorb shows a troubling sign.... She probably blanked out every time he would read one of his passages and just agree with whatever he was saying/feeling in reflection. It is evident that each piece she doodled on has words in it she can't even pronounce or understand when reading them to the court. (as we see her lawyer correcting every mistake) This clearly shows she was just "there" during these recitings/discussions of his work but blanking out and doodling instead. Very chilling
I feel this defense attorney is a bit scattered. The judge said it best when he said she has "marbled" a lot of "this" together. Maybe she wasn't as prepared as she should have been, putting a defendant accused of murder, on the stand...?
So many things about “Ezra” are weird. This is the type of person, if I met them or had to interact with them, would be so off-putting I’d do everything I could to avoid them and when that wasn’t possible I’d try to make that interaction as short as I could. Just. So. Strange.
Anyone, please weigh in so as to correct me if you see any mistakes in my descriptions here. My understanding is that these points are already agreed to by all parties of the trial: 1. She now states that after a period of several months of mutual separation while both the man and the woman were regaining independence from one another following a break up, the killed man did not invite her to visit him and the killed man did not invite her to contact him. But she did initiate visiting him on the day that she killed him, and she did initiate the action of persuading him and then driving the two of them somewhere away from the man’s home on the day of his death. 2. She now states that she had told him that she desired to go somewhere together in PUBLIC away from his home to have conversation. But she also now states in conflict with that while she was in control of her own car she drove the two of them to an isolated more private location that is out of view of the public. 3. She now states that she forcibly took the knife from this man’s hand, but in conflict with that she also states that she picked up the knife which was previously dropped by the man. 4. She states that she stabbed this man 16 times while he was in the car. But it in conflict with that there was a small quantity of blood marks found in the car which show that it was impossible for the man to be bleeding from these wounds while being in the car. 5. She states that she was afraid that she would be killed by this man and that this is her justification for taking her own actions to kill him. But she also states that he then moved away from her, he left the car after she stabbed him 16 times, and he then positioned himself next to a trailer some distance from the car - at which point she chose to move herself toward him on her own volition instead of running away. 6. She states that the man’s response to her first stabbing of his body was NOT to grab and take control of her arm that is holding the knife - but she claims that he instead grabbed her hair while allowing her to continue stabbing him 15 more times while he made no effort to gain control of her knife hand in order to protect himself from further knife attack from her. 7. She states that this man, after being stabbed by her 16 times, somehow was able to position himself on the muddy ground without leaving any of his hand marks in the mud. 8. While she had total control of the phone she broke it apart and then hid the phone parts. She did not use this functioning phone to call for help. 9. She had recently put a knife into her car, and this is the knife that she used to kill him. 10. She cannot see without her glasses. But somehow she was able to see the knife in order to pick it up and she was able to locate the man after he had moved some distance away from the car, and she was able go to him at the trailer - all while she was not wearing her glasses. Am I accurate in thinking that all parties to the case, including the woman who is the defendant, already agree about my 10 points?
I'm just adding an 11th point that came to mind. 11. The woman who stabbed the man was in contact with a local resident about 8 minutes walking distance or perhaps 100 seconds of driving distance from the stabbed man. According to the doctor, the stabbed man was possibly still alive for 30 minutes following the stabbings inflicted by the woman. Instead of requesting prompt attention to help the stabbed man, the woman knowingly directed people to spend time exploring for the man in a park area that is some distance from the man's real location which was only known to the woman. In conflict with these facts, the woman is also claiming that she wanted to help the stabbed man and that she cared about his well-being, and this was her stated justification for choosing to move herself toward the man after he had moved away from the car and after she had stabbed him 16 times while being afraid that he was intending to kill her. All parties are in agreement that this is what she is claiming.
I believe all you said was 100% accurate. The PROBLEM is: Ezra claimed she was being RAPED and her actions resulted from the PERCEIVED rape. How do we make a premeditated murder from this and make it stick?
@@ohioh111b111y It seems like we will never know if there was an attempted rape because the woman admits to having killed the only other witness to the situation in question, thus preventing authorities from questioning the other witness. In order to conclude whether attempted rape occurred, the jury will have to discern and decide whether or not the woman shows a habit of lying. It seems evident and agreed that the woman lied to authorities to intentionally send them away from the wounded man at a time when he required urgent medical attention in order to remain alive, and thereby she successfully and consciously prevented this life-saving care from being provided to the man that she had knifed. It seems reasonable to conclude that the woman's claim of someone attempting to rape her does not matter because it's a fact that no one was raping her or attempting to rape her when she lied with the conscious purpose and personal motive of delaying and blocking medical care for this dying man. Because of this, it seems reasonable to conclude that the woman knowingly took action to end the man's life while no one was threatening to rape her, while no one was assaulting her, while no one was restraining her, while no one was coercing her. If I was a jury member who is being trusted by the broader community to produce a correct verdict, I think that I would want to focus on some key factors during jury deliberations: It seems evident and agreed that the killed man was not stalking the woman nor pursuing the woman after they broke off their relationship. It seems evident and agreed that on the day that the man was killed, the woman had continuous predominant control over the big picture sequence of activities, including her own actions to come to his home uninvited with the killing knife placed by her into her car, including her own actions to lure the man away from his home to a remote area after persuading him to get into her car by telling him that they would go somewhere public together, including her own actions to misdirect the authorities after the stabbings and thereby prevent urgent medical care for the wounded bleeding man, including her own actions to destroy and hide the phone which could have been used to help save the man's life, including her own actions to tell authorities that someone had cut her when in fact it was her who had cut herself. These were her chosen actions taken by the woman while she was free of outside threat or coercion. I'm perceiving that the woman decided to change several of her stories instead of choosing to talk straight with authorities; I'm perceiving that the woman admitted that she had previously conditioned or trained the killed man to expect mutually-endorsed engagement in eccentric rough sex and knife play that produced pleasure for the woman as she desired and as she requested; I'm perceiving that the defense attorney is presenting hearsay in the form of the killed man's irrelevant philosophy writings which tell us nothing about the man's motives, emotions, decisions, or state of mind on the day that he was killed; I'm perceiving a psychology witness and a brain research witness who are presenting unscientific guesses about how human consciousness maybe operates for maybe some people maybe some of the time; and I'm perceiving that it seems that there is no actual evidence of a real rape being initiated by the man who was participating in a sequence of events on that day which were being thoughtfully controlled by the woman. If I was on the jury I would want to present all of these perceptions to my fellow jury members, and I would want to listen and learn from their analysis of these above factors.
@@pinksalt1057 Hello Pink Salt. Her descriptions seemed like lies to me. My sense is that her and the man would NOT have done the things that she claimed to have happened. A man stabbed once who has enough consciousness and enough strength to hold someone by the hair would not allow their attacker to continue stabbing him 15 more times. I have been a rape counselor. Her claims about of her own thinking and her own experiences do NOT make sense to me. As I was listening to her talk I was trying to be on her side in a supportive spirit while trying to follow her statements. It seemed to me that she was fabricating her story and NOT telling the truth. If I was on the jury I would hope to hear from my fellow jurors their own responses to my 11 points. Perhaps I would change my views from what they say to me as I listen to them. At this time over half a year later, I would still want to present my 11 points and hear what others have to say to me about whether I am accurately observing what I have seen and heard during this process. If my points remain valid, then I would vote for judging her guilty. If my points are shown to be irrelevant or invalid, I would want to re-study everything with fresh eyes.
Well a normal judge would never allow such things, anyone that's going to handle evidence before or after a trail is required to keep their hand off unless it's with gloves on. It's to keep from cross contaminating evidence that will be needed for later keepings. Such disrespect from the defence attorney
Wolf Gang ahahaha ahahahah I’m laughing can you imagine being that person tho I use to hate that when it would happen in school class or a sneeze fit hahahahaha
I really don't understand how Ezra telling us what he meant in his writings is considered at all. Who's to say she's interpreting them correctly at all. Wouldn't this be considered hearsay in a sense?
Gee Im not a lawyer but !! why is she aloud to say what her young man was thinking and feeling. Hes not around to agree or disagree. Surely this is seen as hear say. Why judge allowing?
That information is merely to get an idea of what she believes.... Not to validate whether she is right or not about her opinion which is what it is. She's a covert narcissist. A jezebel.
That is because it goes to her “state of mind” meaning it’s what she believes he was thinking at the time. It doesn’t go to “the truth of the matter asserted” meaning the jury cannot use it as evidence of what his thoughts were. The jury can only use it as possible evidence of what she believed his thought were.
The prosecution had to be careful. Shes playing innocent victim. If he had really gone after her then she couldve used it to make herself look like the poor lil victim.
I did a UA-cam search for the prosecution part and all I got was prosecution closing arguments part 1 and 2. They're both pretty long videos, and I'm guessing that might be all we get of that. If someone else is lucky enough to find something more in the line of what we're searching for please post it here. Thanks.
If she were genuinely afraid she would not be smiling while recollecting. This woman is displaying typical duping delight that liars display. I do not believe she was afraid for her life for one moment. She doesn’t seem traumatized. Edit : I do see trauma in her face after being sentenced though and I meant she doesn't seem traumatized when recollecting specific details about the incident she is describing on the stand. In those specific moments of recollection we should see more of that scared and traumatic feeling coming through where with her we see more of a bland affect and even many cases of duping delight.I understand trauma has many faces. I'm giving my perspective of her entire testimony after developing a baseline and studying all the facts I could find about her behaviour. I'm sorry if this comment is offensive. I don't believe this woman. She was known to lie and tell different people different stories about alleged SA. She also had selective memory fails and retrieval when telling story to police and doctors.
@@mrsjenco7898 thank you for sharing your experience and I am very sorry for your rape. I'm talking about her entire testimony. Not one burst of laughing which is different to what I described. I understand trauma is not always the same, but I'm talking about her ENTIRE statement. Not one part. The sum of all the bits. If I had watched your statement about your experience I wouldn't have said a burst of laughter made you be deceptive. Or even a few bursts of laughter. It's the sum of all the parts. Developing a baseline, and adding up all the bits into a conclusion. It's called statement analysis. I am sure your face didn't look pleasant and happy when describing intimate details of the rape. A few bursts of nervous laughter would be completely normal in a nervous situation. You need to look up statement analysis and then maybe you will understand what I am talking about. I am sorry for your trauma. Please seek therapy.
@@tomgleckler5069 See their not giving the whole picture the defendant was living as a " boy/non-binary " person or both girl and boy at times. It's all confusing. But what we see now is not was.
I think Alex was the submissive and she was the dominant. That's why she was able to have 3 lovers while seeing him. A dom wouldn't allow his submissive to have another man because he would see her/him as his personal property. She was the dom and her unwillingness to leave Jason was the cause of his broken heart and depression. She is pure psychopath.
Momma Abraham she kinda hesitated when she was asked about it, like she was keeping with her story. The way the journals read, he didn’t really seem that dominant. I would feel if he was very controlling and dominant that he would’ve never been okay with her floating in and out. That and she mentioned how she pushed him to be more explorative. That give some a right to abuse you, but she’s more giving an interview for the cameras instead being on trial. There’s no emotion behind her smile. Unless he was dominant in a passive-aggressive way, it doesn’t play into her narrative. She comes off as arrogant kinda like the “Loud music” trial. This was about control. I don’t think their lifestyles should’ve played a huge part in the story. Do what you want at your house, it’s not going to interrupt my life at all, but her attorney really every detail known. I think it played against her. I think if the lovers killed each other it would be overly important. The first guy, it didn’t really help me understand her other relationships. It’s all so one-sided.
Incorrect a dom absolutely would depending on their specific kinks.. Some doms like the power of forcibly sharing.. I think there is a lot more to the bdsm part of this than what is presented.. Especially considering the victim and the other guy were friends..
Guys...the reason they read his journals is because their defense is that he attacked her. His journals paint a picture of a weirdo in so many words. He talks about violent things and thinks theres no life meaning which paints this picture of someone who could commit a crime. Whether any of you like it or not everyone is entitled to a defense. Sometimes people dont like it. But they need to explain their relationship and everything that goes into it to help understand what happened.
His words do not paint what you say. Everyone has their own interpretation. That’s the problem here. She should not be allowed to interpret his works for her own gain. She can’t even pronounce half the words. Give me a freaking break.
therealsongstress is it tho? Lol. Are you not listening to the disturbing complexity of the dynamic? Jodi was a scorned woman who was used for sex by some fratty dude and revenge murdered him.
Ironic that she named herself McCandless when Chris McCandless himself rid himself of that name (he called himself Alex Supertramp) because he probably didn’t greatly associate with McCandless himself. After all, it was his father’s name, and he really disliked his father. So basically she named herself after a man that her hero (Chris McCandless) detested. She should have thought this through a little more.
Ikr and didn't she say he wrote a book too? He didn't write a book, there was a book written about him no? She doesn't even pronounce the last name right.
What happened to dating and going to movies and hanging out with friends and having fun? What are all of these profound, psychologically dark themes and where were his parents when he was writing these macabre essays? He uses a capital Y for You when referring to her like she was like some mythical goddess. Why didn't she tell his parents he was cutting his wrists...those essays scream help me and instead she killed him? Parents keep watch over your children and forget about privacy...snoop at every chance.
LadyJane Loves tea I grew up in the 60 s so what’s your point...Jim Morrison’s life turned out great didn’t it..he had a father who put him down and alienated himself from his son...you sound inexperienced and naive. I doubt you have children.
I think kids now don’t study religion, art, beauty, philosophy and the humanities in general. This is why I believe they are lost. Jim Morrison helped me with my loneliness (I’m 25) art helps remind us how great it is to be alive even at the worst of times. These kids don’t have the education to handle a society with the rules we have. Nihilistic and misanthropic with no gratefulness for being alive. That’s what’s wrong with our youth
She was trying to demonstrate how astute and intelligent she was but came across as snobby and arrogant. Also, has anyone noticed that she always repeats the question that was asked before giving an answer? Also, she doesn't wait until the lawyer finishes the question that was meant to be rhetorical. I think she loves hearing herself talk.
Did the defence attorney prepare, whatsoever? She seems like she passed the BAR that morning. Overall this case is truly heartbreaking, Alex Woodworth was a truly beautiful soul.
Ezra saw how Jason reacted over John, and knew that the Alex situation was going to end it ALL. She wanted to talk to Alex and make him agree to lie to Jason for her. He refused. She killed him. That is literally what happened. You’re welcome.
Yeah she wanted to hold onto the guy she KNEW was stable and wasn’t a novelty or a fancy for stroking her narcissistic tendencies and her vanity. She had her fun and now she wanted to return to life as she knew it, safe, familiar and Alex was starting to be too much for her and when he doth protest too damn much she killed the sh!t outta him! She had a “fire” in her eyes that Jason recalled and he was scared about what she was gonna do it seemed. He knew her pretty well. If she wasn’t the least bit afraid of Alex then what has the defense been trying to show this whole time?! What a mess!
Yeah, a note to all you young people from my lifetime of experience: be very careful who you hang out with or have relationships with. There are a lot of super weird people in the world and Ezra is just one example of what can happen. Don't share very much about yourself when you're getting to know people because they can turn on you and use things against you. Be slow when you're developing relationships because you want to get to know the WHOLE person.
Excellent advice !
Excellent advice !
It would take me about five minutes to realize this woman is insane!
I think they said 17 minutes for the jury to decide.,
So true.
He read religious books to her while having intercourse. This is the weirdest relationship I’ve ever heard of.
thomas kwasigroch i mean how does that even work? Really.
Sounds like some handsmaids tale shit.
She’s probably lying
Miracle’s Homestead M idk i kinda believe it just because of all those weird “essays” lol
Bo Ya i was trying to imagine it in my mind and still haven’t figured it out.. Lmao!
I hate it when people think they are so deep and profound
Lol...she definitely thinks she is a philosopher. She comes off a weird and not very bright. Her essays are corny and not profound. Sounds like she is trying to create a personality
All of this is just so much B.S... a man was SLAUGHTERED by this MONSTER! WHO CARES WHAT SHE THINKS???!!😡🤡
I know that is annoying and egocentric sounding. Like waah waah, go cry yourself to sleep about it like the rest of us. Buckle up, Buttercup. This life is like war and we are all soldiers....just trying to make it through and hopefully have a few laughs and nice moments during it. This endless focus and dissection of one's feelings and thoughts is just not helpful to the mission, or to their ability to get through it. Put on your big girl panties and chin up! Don't be dragging the rest of the platoon down with you... Lol
lol just telling my husband this. It’s embarrassing really. 😂
If you have to act overly profound - as though every statement is quotable... you're probably as deep as a mud puddle.
not wearing gloves to handle evidence is a very stupid idea
Yeah, just ask O.J.
I've watched alot of trials and them showing evidence and I've always scene them us gloves??
@@sifugurusensei What???
OJ won his case and he tryed on the gloves with rubber gloves underneath.
You look wayyy to young to even remember that case. Maybe that why you don't know what you are talking about.
@@juneaskew6871 thank you for thinking that I look young. I know that O.J. was aquitted. I'm in my 40's. I watched the trial and I know that he's guilty of murder. Prosecutors failed. The fact that the gloves didn't fit didn't mean anything. Norm MacDonald that did the weekend update at the time said it best: "the jury is divided between those that think O.J. is guilty and those that are really, really stupid."
Bernard Phillips
I love how adamant she was about it too, like dude what
I don't care who you are, it's very abnormal to sound and bear an expression of self-satisfaction at your trial for murdering your boyfriend. There is a hint of an underlying smirk on her face almost continuously. She also wants to appear bright and curious when in fact she comes across as fairly dumb and voyeuristic, a peeping Tom into someone's soul. It's disturbing and creepy. I'm so glad she was found guilty and given 50 years behind bars.
She’s got the worst case of DUPING DELIGHT anyone ever did see!
Oh! Rockin' comment. A voyeur into his soul, without A CLUE what she was seeing. Absolutely- I love this description. She was copying him to seduce him, but she didn't understand a word he was saying.
Beautifully put. Haunting. I hope you're a writer too!!
@@angeldip5797 and self-satisfaction- weeping at the sight of her own doodles!! My God!
@@laurasalo6160 also how you put it was beautifully done as well! you're spot on.
@Howsoonisnow-to5nv
That's very kind of you to say. 🙂 Thx
Hahaha the judge said “ Don’t bring it over here, I don’t want my DNA on it “! 😂🤣😂🤣
The Judge wanted no part of this madness !
He’s already mad about the waste of tax money and time cause she won’t just confess to what happened and is bullshitting ... also who would want to touch anything after them two did
Time stamp!?
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She is ridiculous by trying to submit more 'essay' and arguing about it even with the judge. Hours after hours and they haven't even mentioned the killing. This lawyer looks clumsy and unprofessional. Why is it so difficult for her to wear gloves when handling the journals?
Ezra defense attorney talks about a bunch of nonsense she sucks at getting her point across
Jacqueline Castillo I 100% agree on this. So unorganized and it was hard to watch
It’s a ruse to make Alex look like he’s as bat sh*t crazy as we all know she is
trailtrs1 well, both of them were pretty whacko. Birds of a feather.
Cami Mons no doubt. All three of them were beta males willing to put their thing in crazy because she definitely was crazy.
Damn sometimes it’s embarrassing to be a male when you deal with other males willing to screw anything even crazy
She is so ridiculous it’s so hard to believe she is a real lawyer it’s crazy just listening to her with this damn essay she wants to add to as a exhibit. I don’t even know the whole story yet and it just feels like how is a journal going to prove innocence
I had a boyfriend that tried to sing during sex one time. It’s been years and I still cringe
Was he any good at singing though...🙉
Lorraine Wadsworth no literally not at all
Serena Roberts ahahahahha what did he sing if u don’t mind me asking Barry white let the music play
Aaaaaaaaaaa just wanna dance the night
Away haha sorry 😐
But I would have laughed it would have ruined it for me lol
Litlisa it was too uncomfortable to laugh 😂 honestly I don’t remember but it was probably The Weeknd or Beyoncé
best youtube comment of all time.
The defense attorney gets on every one of my nerves. WTF! Was she hired off craigslist?
Right 🤣 She better hope this was just an "off" day for her!
Yeah she's horrible!
@ peep z,yep, that sounds about right!🙃
Peep z too funny. Thanks for the laugh.
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And this defense lawyer is all over the place. Lay down the pipe or maybe skip a few of your daily Adderall doses.
Tisha Milligan this is the best comment I’ve ever seen on YT
The : "lady " " man " " thing " never got attention , caring love . Too sad , but she didn't need to KILL................
Wow seriously, she needs to calm her mania let the murderer speak. Aka her client
@@chelsiemuscarella6504 right! Defense lawyer was trying to get by with "Leading" every question she asked.
Exactly the laywers are just as mental as the killer...
What am I even watching ? These people are nuts....
Very true. Bat sh*t crazy. Three beta males were putting their thing in crazy.
trailtrs1 🤣🤣🤣
insane
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I guess we are nuts for watching 😂
No one:
Ezra: YES.👀
I hope no one messes up the 66 likes... That is when I knew she did it.
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Omg was thinking the same ⚰️😂
Are you guil....
YES. 👀
The defense strategy here is to humanize her while simultaneously dehumanizing the victim
Christine Tilton I thought it was, I wrote my feelings down badly so it’s self defense
Good observation 👏🏾
That’s a common defence attorney’s tactic in murder trials
That could so work against them in the jury’s eyes. The victim doesn’t have a voice, so if that’s their strategy, they are walking a fine line.
She would have done better to remind everyone of their age difference more consistently.
The fact the Judge is allowing the defendant to describe the victims feelings through his own series of Journals/Essays is ridiculous. The defendant can play it to her/his own defense, which is bs.
I know right! I was shocked.
Did the judge fall asleep? What kind of a judge allows that B.S?
@@lorel9371 right. I've heard of judges allowing the witness or defendant to give more explanation and judge tells the jury they have to form their own opinion of whether or not some things true, but never seen a defendant be allowed to "describe & explain" their own victims thoughts & feelings! RIDICULOUS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT!
Also, she isn't reading the essays in entirety. Things can be interpreted completely different ways when you dont see "the big picture". I know nothing about this case and just started watching it so maybe im missing something here?
@@basicbecky6306 That's my point. The defendant is being asked to read "selected" paragraphs from HER VICTIM'S JOURNAL, then she's being allowed to interpret what he meant and felt while writing it. That's absurd! She doesn't factually know what he was thinking, feeling, describing in those essays, by doing so she is given the opportunity to falsely sway the jury in her own defense.
the defense is a mess... so unprepared and all over the place. This was so hard to watch.
Crap lawyer
Forreal she sounds like she is for her rather than against
And fckn long... Like enough with the FUCKING ESSAYS ALREADY 😖😖😖
Seriously this lawyer is a dumpster fire
@@torit2809 lol!! She sounds like her talent agent trying to get her a book deal or something lmao
He sounds just as weird as her, this whole situation is bizarre
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@Seven Black Swans🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, this is from her perspective because he isn't there to give his actual side of the story, so yeah, he's gonna sound as weird as she when it's coming from her head and mouth!
Maybe he helped her
@@sharcrum well... All those essays......
Who else is tired of the journal entries?
I whatched only half of the first part because of this and skipped right to this one.
Me i am literally fuming... So ANNOYING... WHAT THE FUCK
This is a very very strange and unorganized situation
Can you imagine judge Judy in this courtroom with all crazyyyyy nonsense? Lol
Miss Harvey are you 23-36?
Omgg she would be snatching edges literally!!!😂😂🤣🤣
She would have cut through McCandless' bull and narcissism in seconds.
You can tell that everyone is getting REALLY sick of her lawyer. She’s horrible!
Thank you.
Yes. She is as annoying as Ezra the Great.
Her breathing sounds in the mic are awful.
This whole case is weird.
The Defence is trying to dress this up. But it's just cold-blooded murder.
Edgy kids...at their best 🤦🏼♀️
Wtf do “doodles” have to do with anything🤦🏻♀️
The purpose of the doodles is to show that she saw the essays and that they therefore would have an affect on her mentally during this time. Very convenient that she doodles on those... 🙄
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony. Stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni! She and her defendant are both D.C. comic's Joker crazy. It makes sense if you are insane.
Trying to show she was part of the journals I think, but it’s all a load of shit!
Exactly. She saw the pieces of work. Doodled while discussing them...wtf and doodles in court. So did Charles manson. Flaws in her character. She shouldn't do that.
Also, kiiiiiinda rude to doodle in someone else's journal. If she at all respected what he was writing, she wouldn't turn it into a coloring book.
WHY didn’t the person having a 20 min coughing fit leave the courtroom til it was over?
Dani 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 so damn annoying
Dani In every trial I’ve ever watched there has been a coughing person...
And it sounds like they have a Michrophone on! I hate it!
If youre prone to cough
Bring some damn cough syrup or tabletd in places like libraries, court, cinema, etc
Ok just joking.
Seriously, heart medication causes chronic coughing and that's probably why there's always a coughing maniac in crowds
At least is hired for these trials. A judge attorneys,stenographer, jury and guy who coughs Now you know.
"Secondary school."
Attorney: "Do you mean college?"
"Oh, yes!"
Jesus. This girl thinks she's smarter than everybody else in the room when she can't even read simple words that the attorney gives her.
She doesn’t read very well either
Right? Her reading out loud was awful!
This girl is guilty as fuck. I seen approx 3 minutes total of 2 videos. No idea what murder ur circumstances she is charged of but I already know shes fucking guilty as charged.
She needs to go to The Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too
She didn't know the word facsimile
Wow the defense attorney is almost as unlikeable as her client.
Possibly on purpose because she knows her client is guilty
Yeah I want to see her bar records, she disrespected the court by pulling the whole not wearing gloves thing
YESSSS!!!!! AND WIERD !!!
When covert and overt narcissists play together... 😬
Lol yes
I was thinking the same thing.
Perfect explanation
The judge is so done with the poetry and the reading of the journals 😂😂
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Bruh the freakin lawyer seems exhausted with those 😭😩
Fr, and them mf doodles, I just cannot😩!!!
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So.. this relationship was sex, then writing essays about the experiences and then reading these essays and then translating the meaning of these essays. DULL!
the journal entries with "You" and his sin..he is writing to God not her. I havent seen anyone pick up on this . I noticedit immediately when I saw those journal entries.
I know. Relationships purely on sex; hooking up every now and then with nothing in-between or it's so consuming that it's all you do and think about. What is the point? There is so much more to relationships and life.
Yup, sounds very claustrophobic
This is the first time I have ever seen the "bore the jury to death" defense.
Omg yes... For fuck's sake i am over here dying slowly... Move onnnn
Watch the Jodi Arias case, it’ll be your second time.
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If I were a jury member I'd be thinking, 'Damn I should have acted like I knew her during selection!'
This case epitomizes why people do not want to sit on a jury!
What with all the ‘misery’, ‘suffering’, pumpkin doodles and reading books whilst on the job… these two would have benefited from working at a soup kitchen. Both are extraordinarily self absorbed…
Her explaining her doodles proudly like a child has me rolling my eyes so hard
She sucked as an artist like most girls just like her who use the arts as a fashion statement so that they can feel unique and talented without ever have any actual talent or genuine ability. All of the artwork on her car and the images shown in the media of her art work were all blatantly plagiarized RALPH STEADMAN drawing and paintings. She tried to play them off as her own with no credit ever given to the actual artists she stole from. I wouldn't be surprised if she plagiarized everything else like so many coffee shop girls just like her. Such as her poetry, fashion sense, contrived persona.
I just came across this case. Were the doodles relevant to anything?
@@sheliw838 literally no! i think it was to just show that she was there when he read it and showed her or whatever
@@sheliw838 Not a bit. But I love how she managed to become emotional when she saw her own drawing about her dog. Oh, dear me, she almost cried! Excellent performance 😂
Its as if Casey Anthony and Jodie arias had a baby .. she even looks like Casey Anthony..put dark brown straight hair. They could be twins almost.. crazy b%$#@!s
He apparently had magic powers too. He could have sex in a dark room while reading a book.
Ashley Galyean
Damn!! Good point!
Touché!
Excellent point
A kindle book has some light.
Ashley Galyean Ezra had something in common with Ted Bundy and it seems Betty Broderick.
This is the most convoluted and bizarre defense ever. Using the victim's alleged journals as the script for the defense is bad enough, but the supposed analysis by the victim via the defendant is total bullshit. I do not believe she discussed anything in the journals with him, or even if the writings are about her, or even who actually wrote that stuff. Those doodles are irrelevant. All they show is that she had possession of the journals at some point, assuming she even did those doodles. This woman is pathological.
estelle patella yes it is the strangest defense ever. Unless being a bad writer is self defense for murder. I fail to see what the defense was trying to prove.
It also shows that she wasn't that afraid of what he wrote if she could randomly doodle on it.
@@underestimatedsmilin2429 Would that work in the defence's favour?
They have to make the three men she was having sex with look evil so that she can get off
Nah...she did discuss the journals with him. She was in love with his creative spark and it didn’t matter whether or not she was the muse or inspiration of the work. She doodled on the pages so she could embed herself into the work because she admired something of herself as a part of it.
Still, the use of the victim’s journals is “unprecedented” as the commentator says, and that is notable because in law when a precedent is set you then have cause and justification to use said items in future cases. It’s all tech and times or even maybe zeitgeist, which is what I find interesting at this moment and in this space in time.
i object to his ramblings being called 'essays'
Absolutely. Self indulgent melodrama. The boy read too much Kafka. Awful.
@@mbd6054 gosh finally somebody said it. bunch of pseudo-philosophical works, i would write when I was studying latin and italian litterature during lyceum at 17 years old. i was just a virgin. that's it. a virgin who read too many books and didn't know how to live and act proper. a weirdo. this is weirdo stuff. real literature and essays, the one that will get you Nobel or world approval is another thing... "essays"... this is some bohemien narcisistic shit we should all avoid writing... a great quote from an italian poet:
"Up the age of 18 every young boy writes... Then only two categories of people keep on writing: poets an idiots..."
@@traurigesland4622 well said. They are two wanna-bes who don’t realize how pathetic they sound
@@traurigesland4622 ABSOLUTELY AGREE. People who write like this shouldn’t even have their works called ‘essays’. I remember writing dumb sh in a journal that I called ‘essays’ but rlly they were a bunch of psychopathic thoughts and narcissistic philosophical remarks that…until now…made me realise how sad and weird I used to be. I was basically brainwashed by books and literature to the extent of thinking that what I wrote was intellectual..BAHAHA 😂 Same goes with people who write rlly sketchy fan-fiction. Like if you wanna call your work ‘essays’ and have title of being an ‘author’ write something that’s actually embedded with effort and not some creepy psychedelic bullshit.
We should burn all books. 😂
Wait so he was reading passages from his journal to her while they were having sex? I’m all the way confused with this story. All these passages, this fluid sexuality- woo this is heavy. I cant wait until they get to the actual crime!
...ehem, that's the crime right there LOL, Who do that kind of thing ?
@@j.erickson8571 right! 😂
Girl, I said exact same thing!!
Allegedly
She's a pathological liar. The victim sounds like a typical philosophy student. She sounds like a murderous psycho.
“I won’t ask you about any more of your doodles" said the lady who continued to ask her about several more of her doodles immediately after saying she wouldn’t 🤦🏻♀️
The defense was so annoying!! I couldnt have been in there lol. Would've annoyed the hell out of me!!
RIGHT THOOOOO!!!
Raquel Adauto What the hell was her point with the doodles? To prove she was with him comfortable enough to doodle lil pics. So weird, the defense attorney is taking direction from the client coz the client is a mastermind
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Wow..and so disrespectful with the Court smiling and behaving like they are in the Mall drinking coffee ☕, nobody cares about her interpretations, Alex is death. This trial wasa waste of money.
It’s interesting how she never uses interjections like “um” or “uh”.. Like EVER. I think that’s why her speaking seems so concocted/like a performance.
Well spoken people can do crimes
pink salt she is far from well spoken . It’s a show . She can’t read anything beyond elementary levels.
@@pinksalt1057 well spoken people can commit*** crimes 😂
As I read this she said “um” lol
Instead of um and uh, she pauses.
I can't wrap my head around how all this hearsay was admitted. I get the judge said it wasn't hearsay as it wasn't admitted to assert that a particular fact was true, but holy hell! The defendant kept being asked "what did he mean by that?" That's not relevant to the defendant's state of mind! It goes directly to his state of mind, which we will never know because he's dead! I'm a lawyer myself and I just can't help but wince every time the defendant was asked to repeat words that the victim allegedly told her regarding his journal entries. It's hearsay pretending not to be hearsay to my ears. What other purpose could the relaying of these alleged conversations serve? Certainly not state of mind, as the defense kept repeating. And when she was asked to repeat what he said to her after discovering he had slit his wrist! Hearsay! My goodness. She should have just read out the entries and left the jury to determine for themselves what Alex meant by them. They didn't need a dishonest and self-serving defendant to interpret a dead man's words to them.
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Right? I’m not a lawyer, BUT my love for crime investigations has taught me hearsay is irrelevant. This is so one sided. Basically yes to everything you said I agree haha
She had three different men at the same time putting their D” in crazy. One she falsely accused of rape to the police and had to recant it admitting it was consensual. The other she murdered and lied about where and how to the police. The other was as old as her step father.
All that and she’s walking around not able to tell if she is a boy or a girl with a made up man’s name (Ezra). And a last name of a guy that killed himself out of insanity in the Alaskan wilderness. The defense lawyer has nothing to do but make her boyfriend look crazy before the prosecutor gets a hold of her in court.
She’s just like the Charlie Manson girls.
I’m supposed to believe that she was upset about journal entries when she originally saw him writing about cannibalism and pursued him after that.
She is bat sh*t crazy.
The lawyer is trying damage control but it’s not working.
trailtrs1 Chris McCandless did not kill himself FYI. He starved to death because he got stranded where he was in Alaska. He was a fool. But I do admire what he did, just not HOW he did it.
So if someone told u they were gonna murder a certain person and that certain person was murdered then the information u have is just hearsay ? 75% of the stuff people under oath are saying is just hearsay lol but they're under oath so we are supposed to believe it as fact... which I dont but I'm just saying
lostbeyondpluto I’m not a lawyer and even I thought all that too...
Apart from not generally being fond of murderers, this one has a special place in my distaste for 1) being just beyond narcissistic, 2) saying 'yes' consistently before a question is even asked and 3) saying 'all the time' when she means 'frequently'. And 4) she makes my skin crawl.
ooooo. narcissistic. are u enjoying using your new word you learned last week? how adorable.
@@lemonlimelukey Are you enjoying your probably over-indulged behaviour of randomly attempting to insult people? You poor sap.
Oh my gosh thank you for bringing the “yes” thing up, I don’t see anyone else talking about it but it annoyed me soo much. She was saying it where a yes wasn’t even needed.
@@BrookelynnM8 I'm glad I'm not alone!
I'd say the whole crowd was narcissistic except possibly Jason Mengle... Alex Woodward thought he was Nieztche....and Ezra thought she was an LGBTQ Silvia Plath😂
I feel like I'm watching a trial from 1994 w the way she's dressed.
Thats how they dress in northern Wisconsin
Lol lol
It's a tactic,bc shed never dressed like that before. Listening to her romantic accounts is so cringe lol.
Big brother is watching.
@Alphonzoe Elrich i figured that like Jodi Arias she put on the church lady outfit to blend in with the rest of the do gooder citizens that are deciding her fate. Clearly choice of clothes make her appear more volnurable as opposed to the more trendy androgenous style of clothing she wore before her arrest.
@Alphonzoe Elrich yeah, pseudo-intellectual ACT.lol
The fact that they argued over a tiny excerpt in his journal for longer than it would take to read it is just the best example of our judicial system.
Yes, one you should be thankful of.. An objection and ruling might not seem like a big deal in this case but in other cases it's paramount.
That letter had nothing to do with her. It was written to God. He addressed "You" with a capital "Y" mid sentence. The strategy was that he was speaking to her and he wasn't. Not sure if the prosecution picked up on that.
It's also a reflection of deep the defense had to go into very petty detail in hopes of giving a juror ANY teeny tiny thing to feel sympathetic towards her for. It's a sign of desperation.
Crochet Happy he was talking about her in some of them though. You can’t deny that. I understand she is guilty, but she clearly had a strange and twisted relationship
The goal of the court was not just to save time but to preserve the jury’s perspective to be as unbiased as possible, and it worked. The jury observed alllll this gaslighting and found her guilty of intentional first degree murder after only 3 hours of deliberation. She was sentenced to prison for life. This is a good example of the justice system.
Say doodle one more effin time😖
She's a darn diddley doodler!
Lol
Ughh..you meant the word, “yes”. She probably said the word *yes* 1500 times! 😂😂
@@VeeAmericanEagle shes in court. "Yes" is always appropriate
I was fully expecting to see a doodle of a “doodle” haha 🍆
Next name change: “YESzra”
😂
😭🤣
I want to slap her because of the way she says *Yesss* (and for other reasons, as well). 😖
that defence attorney is a joke just why refuse to wear gloves when handling the journal's??? she's doing my head in 🤦♀️
Seems useless and crazy
Only two people will ever know what really happened in the bedroom and one is forever silent. So horrendously unfair for the Woodworth family. I don’t believe a word this walking nightmare says. Not one word.
believe what u want...who cares....ur so nasty
It is so sad
Evy Courtney it’s you and your mother who are nasty. Watch it snowflake.....fire burns.
I just want someone to wipe that shit grin off her face,permanently.
Regardless of what the cornball threatened to do she could of left. She killed someone. Therefore her life ends as well. She has been indoctrinated into the prison system to rot. Poo poo platters for precious.
Her defense is so unprepared. The Journals were a waist of time. This is the weirdest court case I’ve ever seen.
Well, seems like the Darell Brooks' trial takes the cake now.
@@jackielove2737yes but at least it’s clear you can see the delusion with darrell brooks. This case is just bizarre because of the way they make her same and the specific evidence they choose to dwell on
Ezra's lawyer reminds me of Amber Heard's lawyer....the fumbling, the disorganised plan, lots of irrelevant talk...
@@lorismuir6774 I agree 😳
I am so surprised that they are allowing her to interpret the victim's writings.
They constantly allow women entitlements they don't allow to others these days. I think bc of the whole "me too" movement bs.
Bc If it was reversed and it was a man defending himself, I'm willing to bet the journals wouldn't have been permitted. Js.
@@libertyjo6238
You are exactly right
@@ooaa5243 👍sadly right tho. But thanks.
liberty jewel while that may be the case, it was mentioned that the STATE was whom brought the journals into play here, not the defendant, therefore they’re essentially just using the “evidence” (i dont really see it as evidence in this sense, moreso just justification and explanation to her state of mind in a weird way) given to them, so they, in essence, justmay due and rambled for maybe a little too long about them to prove a point that she may have had a subtle fear about alex and that was exacerbated the day of the incident so if anyones to blame for the use of the journals, its the state not the defendant but idk i dont do law stuff
@@seliisnotonfire
Your response sounds extremely intelligent. I think to understand it I will have to read it several times. Thank you for posting it.
She acts just like Jodi Arias! Really proud of herself!
She look like jody arias too
Cami Mons I laugh when she is corrected by lawyer for mispronunciations of words.
Even her glasses are strikingly similar lol
No she doesn't.
They both are pretentious, they both enjoy the camera, flat affect, they both say “yes” instead of yeah. There is a shallowness to their testimony. She is so out of touch with her feelings. She needs in-depth therapy!,
Nobody:
Ezra: *yes*
😂😂😂😂😂 so accurate
Dude fr right 😂😂✌🏻
🤣🤣
Don’t keep a diary.
Sometimes it might help
How bout DON'T BE A PSYCHO KILLER?!?!
How about “don’t be a narcissistic wacko!?”
Amen!!
Nope. It’s a terrible idea.
Off the record, the defence attorney should sue her hairdresser for malpractice...or maybe get up a little earlier.
Ray Ray
Plot twist, it’s apart of the look Hahahaha
Ray Ray I laughed too hard at this
Kaycee Botte: Nothing like that ‘just out of the shower’ look to keep the jurors’ minds off the defendant...very clever.
Savannah Mal: Well, I do like to entertain but I should be more polite. I mean, maybe it was just windy outside...or maybe she showers at work, lmao.
Maybe she’s “boy” too.😉
When we could cough in public.. Precious memories 🥰
:-)
😂😂now If you even sniff around people..
People:👁👄👁
😂😷
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hi :3
He was only one of 3 relationships she was in. She didnt live with him nor was she dependent on him for financial support. If she really didnt like what they were doing she simply could just not go to his house. She wasnt stuck with him. She did like it. He was something new and adventurous. That's why she kept going back.
I find it really disgusting that Alex Woodworth, the victim, seems to be the one on trial here.. While the jury was instructed that this information was only admissible as Ezra's own interpretation of Alex's writing and beliefs, it still seems incredibly prejudicial towards Alex.. The defense strategy is obviously to assassinate Alex's character and paint him as negatively as possible. Despite the obvious motive, confession, and Ezra's attempt at manipulating the evidence/failure to report the incident. Despite having previously (likely falsely) reported her alleged "sexual assault", which has been deemed by prosecutors to be nothing more than cover up for her consensual sexual relationship with a third party (which is backed up by text messages)... This all just feels inappropriate and I am very surprised that the judge allowed much of this "evidence" to be admitted and shown to the jury. Especially with such complicated instructions.
He's so pretentious.
Sadly, Alex cannot tell his story now or expound on his writings.
Who cares about her doodles and why would she get emotional over her own doodles? Seriously
I feel that the emotional response stems from the memories that took place durring the time she spent with Alex while doodling these. I feel that the defense attorney showed them as a way to show us that the journals were written durring a time that Ezra was around Alex. Making the content of the journal more relevant to what is going on durring their relationship.
@@stephaniedreams5529 I think the doodles go against her though. You would either have to be extremely naïve doing little drawings on his journal about cannibalism and stuff or be so covertly narcissistic. I mean someone's writing all these dark and horrifying writings and you're drawing a pumpkin or a dog?? What!?
Exactly!!
She crazy
I bet this defense lawyer could produce a mean 6 hour local theatrical performance.
Jared Smith she’s the reason people dodge jury duty
I just Yelled " HA HA" in the creepiest voice and my kid jumped in her sleep
@@corettaha7855 lol
First of all, Ezra is NOT a gender neutral name. It is unequivocally a masculine name from the ancient Hebrew texts. I have never once encountered a female with that name. Second, why can’t this girl read properly and why does she just wing it when using certain terms? She seems to pronounce many a word wrong while trying to convey a certain level of well-spokenness. Very odd.
Probably cause she’s really nervous. I used to freeze up when having to read in front of a group too. In no way am I defending her I’m just saying I could understand why she is pronouncing stuff wrong!!
Shira Ansbacher I grew up with a girl named Ezra.
I have to politely disagree with you about the name Ezra. I have actually never known anyone with this name in my 38 year life, but to me it sounds more feminine. This proves her point that it’s neutral.
@@gillmanjr87 sorry, to correct you. I'm a bit older than you but I learned already in my schooltime about the famous American poet, Ezra Pound. He lived later in Italy. He was a man.
Shira Ansbacher, I'm quite astonished that noone heard of Ezra Pound, the famous American poet.
Holy crap! Ezra and Alex sure did “Discuss a lot of things ...often.” 🙄😳
Seems like that's ALL they did. He read passages from books during sex?!? Was sleeping w a he/she that lived with a man old enough to be her father?!? Wtf
For real. What man reads their journal to people? Just odd.
I hate how she mispronounces "often" . It's pronounced OFFEN, not "ofTen".
Ronnie nah. It's actually often lol. Good try though.
@@sheliw838 I bet she read them without his consent.
So she used him, played head games, and strung him along and is now using his heartbroken reactions as a justification for killing him?
ur reading that into it ...she wasn't playing him
Sure. And she murdered him via a knife.
All of what u said is basically bullshit. What I said is truth.
@Amanda Schlicher Press you should get your head checked or go spend some time in the crazed killers jail cell and wait till she tweaks and thinks you have slighted her.
@@DigAPonyY is ur favorite plot clear
Where is cross examination?
Knilja indeed.
Knilja part 3
Ten 25 thanks
Defence attorney - If you can’t convince the jury, at least confuse them..
Great strategy
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit..."
I would REALLY like to see the prosecution's cross examination of this woman. Is that available anywhere?
She's a piece of work. On the stand, she acts like she's giving a speech to an audience, and rehearsed at that.
Doodling on every page that he asked her to listen and absorb shows a troubling sign.... She probably blanked out every time he would read one of his passages and just agree with whatever he was saying/feeling in reflection. It is evident that each piece she doodled on has words in it she can't even pronounce or understand when reading them to the court. (as we see her lawyer correcting every mistake) This clearly shows she was just "there" during these recitings/discussions of his work but blanking out and doodling instead. Very chilling
and it makes me sick that they are then using that same "woman" to explain what the writer meant and felt when writing these pieces.
Defendant says "Yes" at the oddest times.
M U R F
I noticed that too! And she got all excited about weird shit
Yes
LMAO Y E S
I was just gonna comment that.
yEs iAm ferfreshed yES
I feel this defense attorney is a bit scattered. The judge said it best when he said she has "marbled" a lot of "this" together. Maybe she wasn't as prepared as she should have been, putting a defendant accused of murder, on the stand...?
She looks so happy and with joy as she answers the questions. Sick
So many things about “Ezra” are weird. This is the type of person, if I met them or had to interact with them, would be so off-putting I’d do everything I could to avoid them and when that wasn’t possible I’d try to make that interaction as short as I could. Just. So. Strange.
YES!
Anyone, please weigh in so as to correct me if you see any mistakes in my descriptions here. My understanding is that these points are already agreed to by all parties of the trial:
1. She now states that after a period of several months of mutual separation while both the man and the woman were regaining independence from one another following a break up, the killed man did not invite her to visit him and the killed man did not invite her to contact him. But she did initiate visiting him on the day that she killed him, and she did initiate the action of persuading him and then driving the two of them somewhere away from the man’s home on the day of his death.
2. She now states that she had told him that she desired to go somewhere together in PUBLIC away from his home to have conversation. But she also now states in conflict with that while she was in control of her own car she drove the two of them to an isolated more private location that is out of view of the public.
3. She now states that she forcibly took the knife from this man’s hand, but in conflict with that she also states that she picked up the knife which was previously dropped by the man.
4. She states that she stabbed this man 16 times while he was in the car. But it in conflict with that there was a small quantity of blood marks found in the car which show that it was impossible for the man to be bleeding from these wounds while being in the car.
5. She states that she was afraid that she would be killed by this man and that this is her justification for taking her own actions to kill him. But she also states that he then moved away from her, he left the car after she stabbed him 16 times, and he then positioned himself next to a trailer some distance from the car - at which point she chose to move herself toward him on her own volition instead of running away.
6. She states that the man’s response to her first stabbing of his body was NOT to grab and take control of her arm that is holding the knife - but she claims that he instead grabbed her hair while allowing her to continue stabbing him 15 more times while he made no effort to gain control of her knife hand in order to protect himself from further knife attack from her.
7. She states that this man, after being stabbed by her 16 times, somehow was able to position himself on the muddy ground without leaving any of his hand marks in the mud.
8. While she had total control of the phone she broke it apart and then hid the phone parts. She did not use this functioning phone to call for help.
9. She had recently put a knife into her car, and this is the knife that she used to kill him.
10. She cannot see without her glasses. But somehow she was able to see the knife in order to pick it up and she was able to locate the man after he had moved some distance away from the car, and she was able go to him at the trailer - all while she was not wearing her glasses.
Am I accurate in thinking that all parties to the case, including the woman who is the defendant, already agree about my 10 points?
I'm just adding an 11th point that came to mind.
11. The woman who stabbed the man was in contact with a local resident about 8 minutes walking distance or perhaps 100 seconds of driving distance from the stabbed man. According to the doctor, the stabbed man was possibly still alive for 30 minutes following the stabbings inflicted by the woman. Instead of requesting prompt attention to help the stabbed man, the woman knowingly directed people to spend time exploring for the man in a park area that is some distance from the man's real location which was only known to the woman. In conflict with these facts, the woman is also claiming that she wanted to help the stabbed man and that she cared about his well-being, and this was her stated justification for choosing to move herself toward the man after he had moved away from the car and after she had stabbed him 16 times while being afraid that he was intending to kill her. All parties are in agreement that this is what she is claiming.
I believe all you said was 100% accurate. The PROBLEM is: Ezra claimed she was being RAPED and her actions resulted from the PERCEIVED rape.
How do we make a premeditated murder from this and make it stick?
@@ohioh111b111y
It seems like we will never know if there was an attempted rape because the woman admits to having killed the only other witness to the situation in question, thus preventing authorities from questioning the other witness. In order to conclude whether attempted rape occurred, the jury will have to discern and decide whether or not the woman shows a habit of lying.
It seems evident and agreed that the woman lied to authorities to intentionally send them away from the wounded man at a time when he required urgent medical attention in order to remain alive, and thereby she successfully and consciously prevented this life-saving care from being provided to the man that she had knifed.
It seems reasonable to conclude that the woman's claim of someone attempting to rape her does not matter because it's a fact that no one was raping her or attempting to rape her when she lied with the conscious purpose and personal motive of delaying and blocking medical care for this dying man. Because of this, it seems reasonable to conclude that the woman knowingly took action to end the man's life while no one was threatening to rape her, while no one was assaulting her, while no one was restraining her, while no one was coercing her.
If I was a jury member who is being trusted by the broader community to produce a correct verdict, I think that I would want to focus on some key factors during jury deliberations:
It seems evident and agreed that the killed man was not stalking the woman nor pursuing the woman after they broke off their relationship. It seems evident and agreed that on the day that the man was killed, the woman had continuous predominant control over the big picture sequence of activities, including her own actions to come to his home uninvited with the killing knife placed by her into her car, including her own actions to lure the man away from his home to a remote area after persuading him to get into her car by telling him that they would go somewhere public together, including her own actions to misdirect the authorities after the stabbings and thereby prevent urgent medical care for the wounded bleeding man, including her own actions to destroy and hide the phone which could have been used to help save the man's life, including her own actions to tell authorities that someone had cut her when in fact it was her who had cut herself. These were her chosen actions taken by the woman while she was free of outside threat or coercion.
I'm perceiving that the woman decided to change several of her stories instead of choosing to talk straight with authorities; I'm perceiving that the woman admitted that she had previously conditioned or trained the killed man to expect mutually-endorsed engagement in eccentric rough sex and knife play that produced pleasure for the woman as she desired and as she requested; I'm perceiving that the defense attorney is presenting hearsay in the form of the killed man's irrelevant philosophy writings which tell us nothing about the man's motives, emotions, decisions, or state of mind on the day that he was killed; I'm perceiving a psychology witness and a brain research witness who are presenting unscientific guesses about how human consciousness maybe operates for maybe some people maybe some of the time; and I'm perceiving that it seems that there is no actual evidence of a real rape being initiated by the man who was participating in a sequence of events on that day which were being thoughtfully controlled by the woman.
If I was on the jury I would want to present all of these perceptions to my fellow jury members, and I would want to listen and learn from their analysis of these above factors.
Mike what is your personal verdict?
@@pinksalt1057 Hello Pink Salt.
Her descriptions seemed like lies to me. My sense is that her and the man would NOT have done the things that she claimed to have happened. A man stabbed once who has enough consciousness and enough strength to hold someone by the hair would not allow their attacker to continue stabbing him 15 more times.
I have been a rape counselor. Her claims about of her own thinking and her own experiences do NOT make sense to me. As I was listening to her talk I was trying to be on her side in a supportive spirit while trying to follow her statements. It seemed to me that she was fabricating her story and NOT telling the truth.
If I was on the jury I would hope to hear from my fellow jurors their own responses to my 11 points. Perhaps I would change my views from what they say to me as I listen to them.
At this time over half a year later, I would still want to present my 11 points and hear what others have to say to me about whether I am accurately observing what I have seen and heard during this process. If my points remain valid, then I would vote for judging her guilty. If my points are shown to be irrelevant or invalid, I would want to re-study everything with fresh eyes.
This girl is lethal. She lies so easily about men violating her. This is truly scary
She doesn't go to "college"...she goes to "secondary school". The faux pretension is its own gruesome crime.
Right! Secondary school is high school lol, that was so asinine. I guess she was trying to sound European and flopped.
That chic really dislikes wearing gloves 🤔
Well a normal judge would never allow such things, anyone that's going to handle evidence before or after a trail is required to keep their hand off unless it's with gloves on.
It's to keep from cross contaminating evidence that will be needed for later keepings.
Such disrespect from the defence attorney
She literally sounds like a middle schooler talking about her love life like she is.
Incomplete sentence. What do u mean commenter?
Is anyone else wondering who the F Ted is?!
meow so weird that they just.. overlooked that lmao. with all their little pet name explanations..
they overlooked it i believe bc even ezra said she had no clue wtf that was and the only person they could ask is... y’know..a lil dead
Yeah who’s Ted...were these supposedly written for her?
The person having the coughing fit must be so embarrassed.
Wolf Gang I thought the same thing.
Wolf Gang ahahaha ahahahah I’m laughing can you imagine being that person tho I use to hate that when it would happen in school class or a sneeze fit hahahahaha
what time
They shouldn’t be theirs a Sicker person in the room
Defense attorney: “what did you...”
Ezra: “what I learned in boating school is...”
HAHA!
😂😂😂
I really don't understand how Ezra telling us what he meant in his writings is considered at all. Who's to say she's interpreting them correctly at all. Wouldn't this be considered hearsay in a sense?
Gee Im not a lawyer but !! why is she aloud to say what her young man was thinking and feeling. Hes not around to agree or disagree.
Surely this is seen as hear say. Why judge allowing?
Weird
That information is merely to get an idea of what she believes.... Not to validate whether she is right or not about her opinion which is what it is. She's a covert narcissist. A jezebel.
That is because it goes to her “state of mind” meaning it’s what she believes he was thinking at the time. It doesn’t go to “the truth of the matter asserted” meaning the jury cannot use it as evidence of what his thoughts were. The jury can only use it as possible evidence of what she believed his thought were.
How unprofessional and unready this Defense team was especially that woman! She looks like she’s running late for everything? So confusing too.
I can't wait until the prosecutor's turn. We'll see how "sweet" she is then.
They already did. Seriously dropped the ball. Counsel on both sides of this case are herrendous. Hers too.
The prosecution had to be careful. Shes playing innocent victim. If he had really gone after her then she couldve used it to make herself look like the poor lil victim.
@Kilnmaster did you find the prosecution videos? tia
I did a UA-cam search for the prosecution part and all I got was prosecution closing arguments part 1 and 2. They're both pretty long videos, and I'm guessing that might be all we get of that. If someone else is lucky enough to find something more in the line of what we're searching for please post it here. Thanks.
If she were genuinely afraid she would not be smiling while recollecting. This woman is displaying typical duping delight that liars display. I do not believe she was afraid for her life for one moment. She doesn’t seem traumatized. Edit : I do see trauma in her face after being sentenced though and I meant she doesn't seem traumatized when recollecting specific details about the incident she is describing on the stand. In those specific moments of recollection we should see more of that scared and traumatic feeling coming through where with her we see more of a bland affect and even many cases of duping delight.I understand trauma has many faces. I'm giving my perspective of her entire testimony after developing a baseline and studying all the facts I could find about her behaviour. I'm sorry if this comment is offensive. I don't believe this woman. She was known to lie and tell different people different stories about alleged SA. She also had selective memory fails and retrieval when telling story to police and doctors.
I laughed while reporting being raped.. it's self preservance..trauma does not have the one face
@@mrsjenco7898 thank you for sharing your experience and I am very sorry for your rape. I'm talking about her entire testimony. Not one burst of laughing which is different to what I described. I understand trauma is not always the same, but I'm talking about her ENTIRE statement. Not one part. The sum of all the bits. If I had watched your statement about your experience I wouldn't have said a burst of laughter made you be deceptive. Or even a few bursts of laughter. It's the sum of all the parts. Developing a baseline, and adding up all the bits into a conclusion. It's called statement analysis. I am sure your face didn't look pleasant and happy when describing intimate details of the rape. A few bursts of nervous laughter would be completely normal in a nervous situation. You need to look up statement analysis and then maybe you will understand what I am talking about. I am sorry for your trauma. Please seek therapy.
She is a manipulative compulsive liar, absolutely agree.
Her lawyer was so unprepared it stressed me out 🙄🤌🏽
I am no prize, but for the love of pizza, what the hell did these men see in her?
@@tomgleckler5069 See their not giving the whole picture the defendant was living as a " boy/non-binary " person or both girl and boy at times. It's all confusing. But what we see now is not was.
Thats what I'm screaming! She's just fugly-as a 'boy', or girl!
she's pretty.
Lisa Mahoney
Lmao I feel like that needs to be put on a coffee mug. Love it
An available free p*ssy for beta males.
I think Alex was the submissive and she was the dominant. That's why she was able to have 3 lovers while seeing him. A dom wouldn't allow his submissive to have another man because he would see her/him as his personal property.
She was the dom and her unwillingness to leave Jason was the cause of his broken heart and depression. She is pure psychopath.
Momma Abraham she kinda hesitated when she was asked about it, like she was keeping with her story. The way the journals read, he didn’t really seem that dominant. I would feel if he was very controlling and dominant that he would’ve never been okay with her floating in and out. That and she mentioned how she pushed him to be more explorative. That give some a right to abuse you, but she’s more giving an interview for the cameras instead being on trial. There’s no emotion behind her smile. Unless he was dominant in a passive-aggressive way, it doesn’t play into her narrative. She comes off as arrogant kinda like the “Loud music” trial. This was about control.
I don’t think their lifestyles should’ve played a huge part in the story. Do what you want at your house, it’s not going to interrupt my life at all, but her attorney really every detail known. I think it played against her. I think if the lovers killed each other it would be overly important. The first guy, it didn’t really help me understand her other relationships. It’s all so one-sided.
Momma Abraham wow did you nail it. Donne woman with submissive beta cuck guys. Played them all
Incorrect a dom absolutely would depending on their specific kinks.. Some doms like the power of forcibly sharing.. I think there is a lot more to the bdsm part of this than what is presented.. Especially considering the victim and the other guy were friends..
Ezra could doodle a hanged man that spells out “Alex” and yet the defense would say “In the passage above the doodle, what does Alex mean by that?”
"Love and do as you will "sounds like something Aleister Crowley, would say
Kara here I was wondering if that was an intended allusion.
@@tawdryhepburn4686 I know right, I couldn't help but get that creepy vibe about it!
Its "Crowley".
You nailed it on that one!
@@tsommers3284 oops...I"ll fix it . Thanks!
Who needs prosecution with a defence like this?
Guys...the reason they read his journals is because their defense is that he attacked her. His journals paint a picture of a weirdo in so many words. He talks about violent things and thinks theres no life meaning which paints this picture of someone who could commit a crime. Whether any of you like it or not everyone is entitled to a defense. Sometimes people dont like it. But they need to explain their relationship and everything that goes into it to help understand what happened.
It's called philosophy. She found him so interesting, until she needed to find him "so scary"- a manipulator.
She should be able to bring up whatever she wants. She is on trial and has the right to defend herself.
His words do not paint what you say. Everyone has their own interpretation. That’s the problem here. She should not be allowed to interpret his works for her own gain. She can’t even pronounce half the words. Give me a freaking break.
Dude was freaky af. She's a lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets too
Bowie Tatum buahahaha
She’s a murderer
This is Jodi arias all over again
therealsongstress is it tho? Lol. Are you not listening to the disturbing complexity of the dynamic? Jodi was a scorned woman who was used for sex by some fratty dude and revenge murdered him.
Cat Evans ... same, they’re both cray cray
Ezra is smart and controlled
This case is a philosopher's, psychiatrist's, and/or writer's wet dream.
Ironic that she named herself McCandless when Chris McCandless himself rid himself of that name (he called himself Alex Supertramp) because he probably didn’t greatly associate with McCandless himself. After all, it was his father’s name, and he really disliked his father. So basically she named herself after a man that her hero (Chris McCandless) detested. She should have thought this through a little more.
Doesn't he accept his name in the end though?
Ikr and didn't she say he wrote a book too? He didn't write a book, there was a book written about him no? She doesn't even pronounce the last name right.
@@lookaftering5638 isn't he dead at the end
@@matts4025 He does, but he writes a final message and signs it with his original name .... I think
@@lookaftering5638 so at his lowest he wanted to die with his fathers name... think that says something
What happened to dating and going to movies and hanging out with friends and having fun? What are all of these profound, psychologically dark themes and where were his parents when he was writing these macabre essays? He uses a capital Y for You when referring to her like she was like some mythical goddess. Why didn't she tell his parents he was cutting his wrists...those essays scream help me and instead she killed him? Parents keep watch over your children and forget about privacy...snoop at every chance.
I believe that she was the author of his supposed essays etcetera
LadyJane Loves tea I grew up in the 60 s so what’s your point...Jim Morrison’s life turned out great didn’t it..he had a father who put him down and alienated himself from his son...you sound inexperienced and naive. I doubt you have children.
Hi JimPal, know you from Lady J channel, I'm trying to play catch-up on this trial. Nice to see someone I know on this channel.
Sharon nice to see you too! Hope you have a wonderful weekend!!
I think kids now don’t study religion, art, beauty, philosophy and the humanities in general. This is why I believe they are lost. Jim Morrison helped me with my loneliness (I’m 25) art helps remind us how great it is to be alive even at the worst of times. These kids don’t have the education to handle a society with the rules we have. Nihilistic and misanthropic with no gratefulness for being alive. That’s what’s wrong with our youth
Her lawyer has WAY too much attitude for someone so disorganized lmao
Bring on the prosecution!! Let’s go
She was trying to demonstrate how astute and intelligent she was but came across as snobby and arrogant. Also, has anyone noticed that she always repeats the question that was asked before giving an answer? Also, she doesn't wait until the lawyer finishes the question that was meant to be rhetorical. I think she loves hearing herself talk.
Alex called her “his lamb” which he meant she was his sacrifice. That sounds creepy.
Did the defence attorney prepare, whatsoever? She seems like she passed the BAR that morning.
Overall this case is truly heartbreaking, Alex Woodworth was a truly beautiful soul.
Was he tho?
Or does America just romanticize the dead?
Ezra saw how Jason reacted over John, and knew that the Alex situation was going to end it ALL. She wanted to talk to Alex and make him agree to lie to Jason for her. He refused. She killed him. That is literally what happened. You’re welcome.
Totally agree!!
It actually makes sense
If she planned it, why not bring a gun? A knife is way more unpredictable. Death is far less guaranteed. Something to think about.
Yeah she wanted to hold onto the guy she KNEW was stable and wasn’t a novelty or a fancy for stroking her narcissistic tendencies and her vanity. She had her fun and now she wanted to return to life as she knew it, safe, familiar and Alex was starting to be too much for her and when he doth protest too damn much she killed the sh!t outta him! She had a “fire” in her eyes that Jason recalled and he was scared about what she was gonna do it seemed. He knew her pretty well.
If she wasn’t the least bit afraid of Alex then what has the defense been trying to show this whole time?! What a mess!
My discomfort at watching her smugly give evidence is eased by the knowledge that she has half a century to languish in prison.
Same 😂
What a pretentious couple, however, this Ezra “entity” is extremely narcissistic. Her smug facial expressions are a giveaway.
A covert narc.
One of her friends said she knows Ezra liked being on the stand: Oh finally we get to talk about ME.
And that’s a friend..
@@DancingQueenie true,i see right through her facade.
All three of them. Jason too.
She’s a fake everything about her is a facade