On Being Spiritual but not Religious
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2017
- You like many other people will likely experience something like an encounter with the divine in your lifetime. Most people, when they experience it, struggle to find words to describe it. Nothing seems adequate to convey how stirring the experience is.
It’s experiences like that, I think, that can cause people to look at religions, with their rules and doctrines, as a pale shadow of the thing that they experienced. I imagine that’s why more and more people are describing themselves as spiritual but not religious. Religion is seen as something that suffers from stale formulas that do little to express the rapture of spiritual revelation.
In a sense, they’re right. If you were to encounter God, religion would seem like a reduction that comes drastically short of the real thing. It’s like comparing the experience of looking at a map of the ocean to the experience of standing on the threshold of that vast expanse. But here’s the thing. While a map may not be the ocean, it’s still indispensable if you want to know something about it.
Religion is a lot like that. It’s not God and it may seem pedantic and trivial in comparison, just as a map is to the ocean, but it can be vital to helping you navigate your spiritual life. Being spiritual but not religious doesn’t mean you won’t have religious ideas or even doctrines, it just means that you’ll have very juvenile ones that thinkers and theologians have tried but abandoned.
If God exists and if we want to respond to those profound experiences, than we have to do something with them. We have to interpret them and try to understand what is being asked from us, if anything. The difference between a religious and non-religious response is a matter experience and objectivity. On your own, you have very little of either of those things but in the context of a community or a tradition, you benefit from a collection of experiences and knowledge. Without that collective of knowledge, your operating within your own narrow perspective and assumptions and if the divine does exist, than I imagine it would challenge my own assumptions and present qualities that would be surprising and unexpected. If it wasn’t, I’d be afraid that it was merely my own invention or a projection of MY preferences. But if I encounter something that isn’t conveniently compatible with my own assumptions and way of living, then I can be more sure that it isn’t something that I invented or projected.
Every religion proposes doctrines that will challenge your assumptions and preferences. In the spiritual but not religious scenario, there isn’t anything that will force you to do this.
There’s a much higher risk of picking and choosing ideas and assumptions that happen to suit your preferences. If you are the only one who defines the doctrines of your personal spirituality, then you’re not really connecting with something outside of yourself… you’re just worshiping your own assumptions. Or put another way, you’re just encountering and potentially worshiping… yourself. Good religion will draw your attention out of your own selfish perspective towards God and a community of people. Being spiritual is something that happens by default. It’s an accident of your existence. Religion is what happens when you put your spiritual reality to work.
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"Religion is living by what is theologically known. Spirituality is living by what is continually discovered."
Love this
@@dee01_ We live in a BIBLICAL world, in where BAAL is worshipped and praised to this day and CHRIST is rejected by many.
GOD give us different languages, just to stop us from finishing the building of the tower of BABEL.
If the tower of BABEL was never build, the language of man would have stayed the same. /whatever was the language in which mankind speak in those days).
GOD give us languages of different kind, not religions. Man made up religions. Religions are our own fantasies and imaginations.
Therefore, souls, lets seek CHRIST, not religions.
Being religious is following a religious leader's journey to experience GOD... However, spirituality is having your own experience with GOD.
GOD is not so much to believed... GOD is to be experienced.
I agree with your statement but there’s one risk you run with experience. Experiences are subjective to individuals, and thus lack absolute objectivity. Without an absolute standard, we’d end up not with God, but with idols of our own experiences, which we take for God. There has to be an absolute standard that goes beyond experiences.
Love your comment!!
@@viorel233 how is man made religion any different?
Very well put. I am in the process of trying to convince people that religion and spirituality are different, and nourishing the spirit is vital. Unfortunately Christians in the US are so divided and confused that they give Christ and Christianity a serious disadvantage when it comes to open-minded, loving spirituality. I went to a Catholic School in India, and my experience with Christianity was WONDERFUL. I'm not Christian, but respect Christ, Mother Mary and Christianity, but Christians here are nothing like Christ - They're pushy, narrow minded & competitive. Some actually believe that Christ is a Jealous God, who will be offended if you visit a temple, mosque or learn about other faiths. Good gracious, that makes me want to weep!! I see that you are pro-Christian, that's your faith. But please try to live with the fact that others have free will, are not Christian, and wish to co-exist in Peace. So try not to push it and be accepting of all beings. Study Omnism - It's a great way of looking at religion. Be Well & At Peace. Blessings.
Omnism is stupid and yes our God is a jealous God. It is his Godly jealousy. And whatever you described as negative are the signs that someone is a good Christian. So yea, do not expect Christians to accept stupidity such as omnism. Omnism is literally an attack on the character of Christ. As the character of Christ is being the sole God of humankind. Therefore making yourself guilty of what you accused Christians of!
I agree. We are all "Spiritual Beings, having a Human Experience" - The One Almighty Spirit is within us, (that part of us that is Holy and Good) and in Everything that is Good. Good is God. God isn't a form or a human (thank Heavens he's not!?) So that spirit within us that is pure & good connects with the Heavenly Spirit, God, Almighty One, Lord, Whatever we want to call it, but that label is too confining, like the doctrines and religious books that tell us how we should worship, and who we should worship. Through the years, religious wars, religious bigotry and hatred that has stemmed from it, has put people off. Faith is Key, Each one's relationship with the holy spirit, that Divine spirit to spirit connection - That's what you mean. It's a Wonderful feeling and you don't HAVE to be religious, to feel it.
I always wonder, thank you for sharing that
Can you please recommend some books and resources please, Thank You!!
Excellent video sir! Thank you.
very good, brian. as always. ... I pray your work and ministry help more people each day. I am sure it already is. God bless you
I am so inspired by your message.
*C.S. Lewis said it best:*
_I remember once when I had been giving a talk to the R.A.F., an old, hard-bitten officer got up and said, "I've no use for all that [theology] stuff. But, mind you, I'm a religious man, too. I know there's a God. I've felt Him: out alone in the desert at night: the tremendous mystery. And that's just why I don't believe all your neat little dogmas and formulas about Him. To anyone who's met the real thing they all seem so petty and pedantic and unreal!"_
_Now in a sense I quite agreed with that man. I think he had probably had a real experience of God in the desert. And when he turned from that experience to the Christian creeds, I think he really was turning from something real to something less real. In the same way, if a man has once looked at the Atlantic from the beach, and then goes and looks at a map of the Atlantic, he also will be turning from something real to something less real: turning from real waves to a bit of coloured paper. But here comes the point. The map is admittedly only coloured paper, but there are two things you have to remember about it. In the first place, it is based on what hundreds and thousands of people have found out by sailing the real Atlantic. In that way it has behind it masses of experience just as real as the one you could have from the beach; only, while yours would be a single isolated glimpse, the map fits all those different experiences together. In the second place, if you want to go anywhere, the map is absolutely necessary. As long as you are content with walks on the beach, your own glimpses are far more fun than looking at a map. But the map is going to be more use than walks on the beach if you want to get to America._
_Now, Theology is like the map. Merely learning and thinking about the Christian doctrines, if you stop there, is less real and less exciting than the sort of thing my friend got in the desert. Doctrines are not God: they are only a kind of map. But that map is based on the experience of hundreds of people who really were in touch with God -- experiences compared with which any thrills or pious feelings you and I are likely to get on our own are very elementary and very confused. And secondly, if you want to get any further, you must use the map. You see, what happened to that man in the desert may have been real, and was certainly exciting, but nothing comes of it. It leads nowhere. There is nothing to do about it. In fact, that is just why a vague religion -- all about feeling God in nature, and so on -- is so attractive. It is all thrills and no work; like watching the waves from the beach. But you will not get to Newfoundland by studying the Atlantic that way, and you will not get eternal life by simply feeling the presence of God in flowers or music. Neither will you get anywhere by looking at maps without going to sea. Nor will you be very safe if you go to sea without a map._
This is great. Where is this taken from??
Quoth the raven: "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis.
Man, I gotta read that some time. Thank you!
It is an astoundingly well-written book for laymen, especially the skeptic. The first part of the book is all rational apologetics that require no potentially dubious empirical evidence or you "just having to take my word for it."
My goodness, I absolutely loved this. Thank you for sharing, sir. It ties in very neatly with the point of the video; so much so that I bet this Lewis quote is the likely inspiration for the "map" analogy that Brian draws in the video. Once again, thanks for sharing the whole quote.
I love your videos. Please never stop :)
Excellent Video and great explanation about Religion.
Spirituality to my understanding is anything but narrow.. It has countless paths.. There are roles and many things still have to remain organized because of natural law being taken into consideration.. We are in a time right now where there is a huge awakening a great unveiling where all the lies are being exposed, The age of pisces is ending and the age of Aquarius is here.. Millions of christians are waiting for the end of the world but it's only the end of the age.. Turmoil all over the world is because of these changes taking place and people are fighting them.. Spirituality is all around every one of us every second.. Getting in tune with it as a beautiful thing.. Be grateful for everything you have no matter what and the universe will give generously to you.
Very good points and well spoken. Thank you
Hands down Brian's BEST video, ever...
An excellent commentary, thank you.
Good video, I'm a practicing Muslim and your right , it's beneficial to be in a community of worshippers!!
Hi! Im a Muslim too and I found this video. Great to see my Muslims out here! :)
You are a sage, young Brian
I Think history clearly shows that religion has not been formed with spirituality and truth in mind, but rather as a vessel for Power-greedy men to divide and conquer. If our own experience of this World is NOT important, then why are we here? Im not saying that a "map" cant have its purpose. But if you dont travel yourself, then what good is the map?
History does not clearly show that. No single man or group of men ‘invented’ religion to ‘divide and conquer’.
@@user-wl8mf3dq6f crusaders...israel...isis.... should i keep going?
@@karimalrawas6185 that’s how people use religion, and isis is the only bad example you gave. Crusades were defensive wars against Muslims and Israel is a country, not a terrorist organisation.
@@user-wl8mf3dq6f the crusades started before the first war against muslims, way before
@@user-wl8mf3dq6f they were attacking everyone in the name of Christ including isolated tribes...and israel is the biggest harborer of terrorism in the 21st century this is broad as daylight..
Great analogy here... thank you.
My realigon is living life to the fullest and enjoying life that's the best realigon
just found your channel. nice content!
Great video!!!!! 🙂
Most people treat the map as an idol, not a tool.
This thing everyone cause god can't be given and it can only find you when ones intent is correct. Only you can create the intent in you heart and when one is ready it will find you. Wishing nothing but good for you.
Such a great video wow
All religious doctrine is open to interpretation. I believe it is important to recognize interfaith connections and how they can help led one to The Way.
@Jarrett Schneider The same can be said of Christianity so relax there, buddy. And YES they ALL are subject to interpretation because spirituality is subjective by nature. It's personal. The experiences with it are going to be VASTLY different. And should be.
This is why scriptures tells us believing christians to not follow man made religions. Such as what the Catholic Church teaches. Many years ago before they changed the definition of religious it meant the steady practice of one’s faith. Religious also was applied to many aspects of life such as sports, job and putting the baby to sleep by a certain time. Being spiritual is no different. You have a choice to choose a certain time or method to connect with God uninterrupted. Shoot, you can do it as you are walking or jogging at work in your mind what have you. And many times being amongst others who shared the same spiritual experience heightens the relationship we have with God. Jesus explains to us it’s the heart of the law just not the doing of it. It should be in our hearts to love our neighbor as ourselves, to not desire to murder, steal or take one’s wife or lie against someone. Like he said if a man looks at a woman that’s not his wife and lust after her in his heart, he has committed adultery. We think that it was only physical but it all started in the hearts of people first. There’s a lot to unpack here but let me just say when you practice spiritually you’re being religious.
what i have in mind:
1. We don't know for sure the number of planets in our galaxy, the number galaxies in our universe, the number of universes in the multiverses, the number of multiverses in a dimension and the number of dimensions in the multi dimensions.
2. It has the highest probability that we are not the only living being. If not, will the others have the same construct? Will they have the same perspective of The Source/God/Creator? Will they have the same religions?
If not, then..
3. The Source of All/God/Creator does not have name, religion, face, etc like the one that people tend to assimilate God with and which gives birth to atheism, agnosticism, satanic churches, terrorist, etc..
4. I don't care what God's name, gender, face, physics cause God is much beyond the box of ideas that we assimilate God with..
5. But I'm living in Earth. Thus, I choose to believe the teaching of Love by Jesus. Because Love is the only universal language. I don't care whether He is God or not. Jesus does not invent christianity, His pupils do..
6. To understand God, the universe and all is way outta human brain capacities and abilities. Just live life to the fullest and share love toward each other and the nature.
Call me a dreamer but this dream of mine will void any wars, poverties, natural disasters..
You said, “picking & choosing” like that’s not what religious people do daily.
They do, despite being religious, not because of it... I speak for the catholic faith and no others.
Excellent commentary!
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To me, spirituality is a journey of seeking the ultinate reality. It is different from religion which is a set of practices to follow. To me further, d goal of a particle physicist and spiritual seeker is same- i.e. experiencing d ultimate reality though diff approches. One aporoach from physical lab, another from mental lab, which is a meditation process. We call this ulyimate reality as God, which modern science has limited to d tiniest physicality alone, whereas vedic literatures say that beyond physicality, there is certain formless features called 'Chit' (pure consciousness, a massless force/energy). All forms r his diverse manifestations of d formless energy within.. .. I m from north east India.
Those people see the faith as arbitrary instead they just focus on these “spiritual experiences” that they struggle to put together and yet don’t realize that that is them yearning for a deeper relationship with God.
Glad people are discussing this. Am spiritual guru. Religion am not for or against. I don’t try to be spiritual am just naturally that way. Am sure I’m not only one. Just watched a video with pastor Mike talking about hot religion has stigma. Yeah ok . Spirituality in my experience is way more stigmatized and no one says it. I know from my experience. I have friends who are atheists and they don’t believe in any of it and stigmatize spirit just as much as religion and for people like me in the middle in just about anything that we get scrutinized from both sides left and right. Am hoping people in middle like me. Probably a good chunk at least 33% get a voice to represent them. To many people on left and right doing more harm than good and not realizing it. Good vid. Have a great new year. James. Not lora. Shared account
Interesting. It seems like his descriptions and criticisms of spirituality are also a very accurate description of religion.
i really like the space you're creating here on yt. but some people just believe each one has their own path, and other people's experiences, no matter how big their name, are just that, other people's. also, if there is a way to experience the sacred, there might be no knowledge needed in regards to what is being experienced. christian mysticism is a curious phenomenon, no wonder it's been heavily ostracised over the centuries.
Good reasoning to weak up spiritual but not religious. Biggest objective for me to believe is my pride. I struggle every day whit pride, thanks for religion reminds me about it.
It's not pride. It's reasoning. Don't be afraid of it
Utilize is as a mini-guide but not the only way to continue.
I have a new perspective... I shall read the Bible more. Does this mean I should go to church and all that as well???
wtf. why not assume that being spiritual means to be openminded to the vast realm outside of our little material world, but not being bound by ancient manmade books and regulations? why not assume that being religious is simply the easy way out of facing yourself and your inner divine being? who am i? what am i? why am i here? why do i exist? what is the point of all this? if you really seek answers to those questions, then your spirit will become wiser and more mature in the process, even if you will never find the answers. religion offers you the answers in detail...so much that it can show you how to live. you may find compfort in this and you will find happyness within your tribe of likeminded humans. you will feed your need of being part of a group as a social mammal and if you remain unchallenged by other tribes with other gods and views, then you will live a happy life. however...you wont find true wisdom and you will only cripple your own social and spiritual potential.
ThePeopleAreFucked I agree with what your saying completely . But I must say this guy has a point. If we dnt have ideals from what’s giving how can we choose our choices the best way. I’m a Christian n barley go to church but going to church doesn’t make me Christian it’s believing in Jesus and doing what Christ done. It’s more about loving and forgiving. You can be the worse person in the world or have many ideas but it’s about your choices and how you treat ppl.
@@gameraddictedx7443 hi! the same way as going to church does not make you christian. being christian does not make you a good person. being a good person does also not mean that you are always making the right choices. understanding, empathy and compassion are the first things that come to my mind if i think about how we can forgive and love others and ourselves. however the next thing i am thinking about is that monkeys, horses, dogs and so on are not christians but they have the same abilities for compassion and empathy as some rather interesting studys show. so in conclusion i would say being our true selves as humans, and cultivating our empathy towards other beings, is as close as we can get to being so called "good people".
ThePeopleAreFucked exactly brodie. As long as we do that we wouldn’t need anything to keep ppl in check with themselves. 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Finally a comment that makes sense. Everyone is close-minded, judgmental and seems brainwashed in this comment section..
Sura 2 v 256
Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. There is no compulsion and coercion in regard to religion
LOVE THIS! Very well put! I'm working on a video like this to combat all the "Spiritual but not Religious" videos ("I love Jesus but hate religion"). If we are the only authority on truth, we end up worshiping ourselves and not God.
Fuck off.
God is the only authority on God - not any person or any church.
@igor lopes All hierarchies are man made
@igor lopes Sorry, but Jesus never talked about anyone being better or more important than anyone else. Men came up with that concept to control one
another.
@igor lopes You can believe that if you like. 😏
Good Post!!! Upon meeting "Spiritual, but not Religious" people, I often wonder "What is so spiritual about you?" It often seems that there is nothing that couldn't better be described with other words. The etymology of SPIRIT comes from the Latin for breath. The etymology of RELIGION comes from the Latin for "to bind together". All people breathe, but without community there is nothing which speaks of commitments or of keeping obligatory relationships. It seems like "spiritual, but not religious" is people trying to substitute how they would like to be perceived for what they actually do.
I believe in one thing: Spiritualism is far older than Religion. I couldn't understand religion if it wasn't for spiritualism.
Spiritualism isn't understanding. Theology is understanding. There is no pre-theology tradition of applying reason to spiritual concepts.
@@BrianHoldsworth, Similar and yet if the perception of the Almighty God is everything than the only truth I can understand is, an huge universal puzzle for power's to exist.
I'm a Catholic priest, and consider myself both religious and spiritual. I am amused and perplexed by the use of the phrase "spiritual but not religious," as if the two were mutually exclusive. They're not. Mother Teresa was both. I don't understand why more people don't simply describe themselves as agnostics. Or to consider and admit that they are engaging in syncretism.
@iloveyellow Peace be with you. I'm not sure you're doing justice to the traditional definition of religion/religious. The term also connotes spiritual adherence and worship. The intellect and the will, two of the three classic powers of the soul, are both involved. The term should not be reduced to doctrine alone.
Being spiritual in my accordance is to feed food that your soul (spirit) is wanting :) and the food that soul is craving for is already written in many holy scriptures (in religious books) and by ref to these scriptures is how millions of people on earth have already experienced a power ( GOD ) and have already built their belief system in their religion.... now what ever new term you coin in like this, I am sure one day when your community grows , you might be willing to publish your own scripture (one more faith) but the challenge will be from where (which scriptures ) will you derive the good and bad things to do in life , or if suppose you will not refer any scriptures it will take centuries to experiment with mankind , to analyse , to observe and to conclude that these these things is what you do to satisfy the inner self , but what my belief is that by doing all these again we will be coming back to point zero where it started and your community may name the new power that you experience with new noun ( like 'the Universe' ).
Its like you are reverse engineering religion to get to a goal , 2 + 2 = 4 is already proved to the world , but you want to add to the people mind that 3 + 1 also equals 4.
Ik that there is a lot of back and forth about religious and spirituality. I can say that I am Spiritual but not religious, even though I believe in God and I believe in Jesus Christ and the more I’ve read the Bible when it came to the live before and after Christ. And it honestly more spiritualities then religious. When it comes to religious a lot of people live by the old covenant instead of the new covenant which is faith based. Jesus was a spirit in a dirt body, which means he understood humanity and feelings like all of us. Jesus was a man a faith and a believer of all thing is possible with the right mindset and faith in his heart. Honestly that is very spirituality, we was put on earth to create what is in heaven , which is love, sharing, abundance, wealth for all humanity on earth. When it comes to spirituality, I myself pray not only for myself but for others, I meditate to calm myself down, I listen to people to a better understanding, I believe that everything I pray for is already done and what I ask for requires actions. Being a righteous person is far greater then being a religious person because that is what spirituality is all about. I am not living through Fear but I am living through Faith, belief, and freedom. I chose love over over anger . I chose to use the mind that God had bless me with and not be wicked. I chose to be active and not laziness. I’m not here to tell people how to live their lives but I am here I let everyone know that it is not okay to judge someone because they not what you are. God want us to live a righteous life and choose him in everything we do. I love you all and pray that all have a understanding and give God/The most high thanks everyday moving forward.
James 1: 27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained [a]by the world.
Philippians 3: 3 for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh,
Your analogies are always on point Brian! You really have a gift. BTW your discussion here reminds me of the 2015 New Year's day homily of Pope Francis, particularly this part -- "No manifestation of Christ, even the most mystical, can ever be detached from the flesh and blood of the Church, from the historical concreteness of the Body of Christ. Without the Church, Jesus Christ ends up as an idea, a moral teaching, a feeling. Without the Church, our relationship with Christ would be at the mercy of our imagination, our interpretations, our moods"
balintuna Great quote. Thanks!
Four minutes of facts.
I'm not religious and since I don't know what the word "spiritual" even means I guess I'm not spiritual either. All I know is I have thoughts and feelings and that's it. And when my brain is dead they'll be gone too.
Though I don't agree with you, I respect your beliefs.
I respect your honesty... are you a seeker? Do you seek answers?
I'm don't have a reliigionn but I'm spiritual
I'M SPIRITUAL AGNOSTIC
Same
@@crazzey I'm atheist now
@@scottlally4030what made you change?
Spiritual and belief in God, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit is the best way I'd belief.
Can you actually be a christian but not religious?
You just described the majority of christians
this reminds me of the incorruptible body's of ROMAN CATHOLIC SAINTS! Including saint Podre PEO .Check it out on UA-cam:)
Wow. Well said.
Religion is a guide book you can follow completely or partly, but it still gives you a suggested pathway to follow and a suggested belief system. (Belief example: Christianity, man born with original sin; Judaism, man born pure but with the capacity to choose good or sin.) Being spiritual is just a capacity to feel.
An Irish wag said, only half in jest, that the most spiritual but not religious person is Satan. He firmly believes in the Divine but it utterly against religious definitions and limitations.
You described Protestantism...my version of faith.
Neilan Adams protestantism is not the true Christianity it a break from Holy Mother Church, the Roman Catholic Church
very nice, thank you. I see you are Christian, great but point of clarification: not all religions believe in or use the Word "God".
Great vid! Thanks for the Canadian + catholic high quality content
The universe is alive. That's all I need to know. No god necessary.
How can one have a spiritual experience in the context of a religion? It's impossible. If one is religious, they will have a religious experience. To have a spiritual experience one must leave religion behind and search for a connection between the divine and the individual. Religion does not want people to do this because they soon discover that there is no need for religion. I heard a RCC Priest talking about the evils of Harry Potter. Then he expanded it to include meditation. Meditation when done properly, will induce a spiritual experience like no other and the result is that there is no need for religion. How many millions have been killed in the name of religion? It's beyond counting. How many have been killed in the name of spirituality? None. Figure it out for yourself.
Sometimes meditation uses form of magic cliche chakras and so on, a scientific kind of meditation or Zen meditation is considered ok, rcc has his own form called adoration of the holy sacrament. For spiritual experiences in the rcc look for the ecstasy of saint Theresa
And if everyone had their own spiritual experiences, there would be no conflict? No because everyone will have a different experience and will make of them different things. We can't be ignorant to spiritual truths and we need a religion (Catholicism) to guide us. If that weren't the case, we wouldn't even be talking about this.
The question is simply this. If God really exist or not. If so, who is God? Has God been active or is He off doing something else at this point. If God is an intelligent being, just as we are, than it stands to reason that we can not decide to describe God in a way that best suits our own image. We must except His revelation, not one of our own making. Think of it. Someone can describe you in such as way that you end up saying, "that's not who I am". And that's the danger. When set off on a spiritual journey apart from God, we set up ourselves up to become our own gods. God has revealed himself to us in the person of Jesus. The Gospel reveals everything, answers everything and offers a genuine hope that is beyond measure. It's the perfect love story between God and humanity. Spirituality without revelation will lead us down a wide road that may seem beneficial, but it's not. You can't judge a religion on the faults and failures of individuals who do thing's that are wrong. As a matter of fact, it's our failures and faults that drive us to the cross.
Hell's real video...
I just think that there are people trapped in some insular religions because they are paying out their karma.
So why are we worshipping the map then?
We're not, we are following it.
I hear Greenland is super accurate on all maps ever... lol
Religion : A book tells you what's good and what's bad. It dictates you how you should live your life, and if you don't respect it you'll be punished. And therefore you can't even think by yourself and you are close-minded because other than what is written in your book is false. Religion teaches you to judge. Some God tells you what to do, how to think and you blindly accept it for a fact and obey. Religion is a cult, that's what it is. Sadly you don't realize it and it's normal because you are brainwashed.
Spirituality : Freedom. Everyone experiences their own faith in their own way. It doesn't force you to do anything. You are free to think and be who you are. Spirituality allows you to be more open-minded, to experiment life on your own and to think by yourself. Spirituality focuses on self-development and is not a sort of collective brainwash. You can believe in a God without associating yourself with some sort of a disguised cult. God doesn't equal religion.
Yes!
And sadly, people want to believe what they are told rather than what they realize. Dogma is nothing more than being chained to a leash without objection, and it is entirely inhumane. You shouldn't be tied to a leash, where you're unable to think for yourself, you should strive for your passion and will to be better. Be you. Be yourself. No one else but yourself have the ability to change the world. You are this universe, and the universe is within you.
satan is spiritual but not religious
Satan knows the Word of God has a lot of power and this is why he does a bunch of things to keep us away from the truth. That is what he was doing with Jesuschrist when he was in the desert. The devil believes in the Eucharist more than humanity; he wants Jesuschrist established church to go down and humanity lost. He wants people to stop believing in God. The devil wants people to not believe. All this world mess is the devil. But God still have His loyal friends. God will win. Patience.
But he dont real
Matthew 26:26-27 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins."
1 Corinthians 11:27
For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: that the Lord Jesus, on the night He was betrayed, took bread, and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me." For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes. Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.
Drink the blood, eat the body. Is this what your religion is all about ? The bible was written by men for men. Women, submit graciously to your husbands. Let them beat you and sexually abuse you and then ask for forgiveness from them. How long do you think before women say that's BULLSHIT ! Religion sucks ! All religions suck. Anything that comes between you and the divine sucks and should be stopped immediately.
There is no Satan! You just broke the first commandment in your statement!
Your a Funny man
My confessor told me, in so many words, that I can no longer listen to the super-ridged, Catholic channel, here on UA-cam (and I'm not talking about the sedevacantist, who thinks he isn't one) because knowing too much can be dangerous to one's soul --especially when the knowledge gets the mind off God, but he okayed you!
And now that you've realized IT is not your calling from God, it makes me wonder, is you last name Fischer, or Peterman, for you are like Cephas, a fisherman of souls.
PS Please don't let my compliment cause you to sin against charity (for all newcomers to the faith, the sin aginst charity is called "pride" and its a sin against the 1st commandment: "You shall have only One God").
What is "super rigid"?
If your--rather tiny--community's beliefs are based on faulty or incomplete knowledge...can you really call that better than walking alone and seeking truth on your own? I guess I find it a little insulting for you to say to people "hey, your spirituality will never be MATURE enough without a bunch of other old guys to tell you what to believe or reaffirm what you believe" or whatever the hell you're saying by referring to it as "juvenile". That's really insulting. In my experience, everything I've learned independently, everything I've experienced, all the values I've accumulated and come to the conclusion of as being "right" HAVE been reaffirmed by...some old guy like a thousand years ago. Some of the stuff I've just thought of on my own is echoed in the words of Greek philosophers and Renaissance artists and industrial age scientists and mystics throughout all time and all these figureheads who were definitely WAY smarter than me. So I definitely do not agree that going it alone is going to result in juvenile thinking. That's just not true. If you think that, YOU haven't done enough objective seeking yourself. I don't believe God needs any intermediary. The internet is ...the largest collective on the planet. I don't know how much more collective you can get. If the argument you're making is you need a community to teach you the way...well no one has any reason to go to church or subscribe to a specific religion because their church is the internet. And if you want to further argue that the internet is full of misinformation...well every group is. Every collective is imperfect. It is up to you to trust God to guide you personally in this world full of shady humans with agendas. How can you trust anything EXCEPT your own personal experience with God? I don't understand that lol
He is insulting quite a lot.
@@socksumi Right. I just don't think people that have a problem with this path understand it. That's just what it comes down to. If you NEVER step outside the church into the wilderness how are you even going to know? Lol Most of them are too afraid to do that.
Spirituality without Religion can lead you anywhere.
Religion without Spirituality can lead you nowhere.
Only Religion with Spirituality can lead you where you want to go.
It’s like triangulating a certain point. You need two points and angles of reference to determine the third.
This analogy also screams trinitarian thought, as well as Jewish thought. All capital punishment cases required two collaborating eyewitness testimonies.
Matthew 26:59-61
59 Now the chief priests and the whole council sought false testimony against Jesus that they might put him to death, *
60 but they found none, though many false witnesses came forward. At last two came forward
61 and said, "This fellow said, 'I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days.' "
Read your Bible. It's not just church. Yall think you can get closer to God and still live like u want? NO! Believe me I've been there. You must strive to be holy and accept Jesus in your heart. It's not about preference! It's about what God wants! You create your own God that's OK with how u live. I know this sounds hard, but I've been there. Trust the Bible. It is historically accurate. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. God bless yall. 😁
i am spiritual not religious i believe in Jesus Christ so that is what I am
April Young Do you believe the bible is the word of God?
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I am non-religious
That's how people start doing witchcraft and sorcery. They start doing druidic and satanic forces.
Those things are only real to people who don't take personal responsibility for the goings on in their own minds.
It's all a crock of fables..... 🙄
@@horsepowerenthusiast6933 maybe to you because you’re SELFISH. But people’s lives become ruined by getting into these things. That’s the deception of “spirituality”. It’s a selfish religion called “spirituality”. The Spirit realm is real and the spiritual ramifications people go through, is very sad.
C.S. Lewis Mere Christianity!
Idolatry is exclusion
God creates man, man creates religion, religion destroys man, man destroys God.
Boom.
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Very accurate!
By now, everybody that has make an effort to research into Christianity may know the following:
1. The New Testament is not real... at all.
2. Virgin Mary apparitions are not real, they are all fake.
3. The protagonists of every religion, doesn't matter the name, are mythical figures.
Having said that, I have experienced the presence of God in the form of unexplained events that have happened to me.
How can I pray to GOD without naming or involving a mythical figure?
You're talking down to people who prefer to put their own interpretations on their experiences, even those most numinous. In the end you advise joining some organization, without which we poor saps are hopelessly lost in our own meditations. Life is a journey that over some stretches is, and must be, traveled alone. As long as we are alive, and awake, we have an almost infinite capacity to sort these things out for ourselves, without the help of any "community," including the Catholic Church, which I notice you take pains not to mention, but which is your real affiliation as you elsewhere indicate. You speak of wanting to go "into deeper waters, but if we don't know what we're doing can be extremely dangerous." And that without some superior guidance and authority, we will have only what you call juvenile outcomes. This is not only supercilious and presumptuous, but to someone like me who is three times your age, my son, faintly amusing. I can assure you that taking the risk of casting off all lines and standing out for the farthest horizons on your own can reveal glories undreamed of in common hours, or inside any church. Your basic position is that some authority is necessary to help us make sense of our experiences and that we need to, like children , hold Someone's hand, To which I say, Bunkum. And just by the way, my son, who are you who has only just begun to shave, to be talking about Ultimate Reality? What you know about Ultimate Reality can be written on the back of a postage stamp!
For him to say that going it alone and depending on self for enlightenment is supercilious and presumptuous? Really? What does age have to do with what he said?
@@barbararickman8543 I can sympatize with this, really. Like most things, we must learn to crawl before we can walk. Unfortunately, I was brought up in churches that didn't spend much time or effort on true religious education. When I asked difficult questions, I was either met with platitudes, like, "God's ways are higher than our ways," or, on more than one occasion, I was told I was misled by the devil and I was going to hell. Mind you, I was a teenager asking honest questions. Since I was disregarded and cast aside, I followed my own path, which led to paganism and witchcraft. It's not until this past year that I was able to make sense of it all. This world is so full of enormous egos and glory-seekers. Why was I so easy to cast aside and enabled to walk astray? The Church failed me... big time. But I was determined to learn and understand what it's all about. And I did it on my own. I've seen from my youth how the Church is completely missing the point and focusing on all the wrong things. Religion doesn't save people. Only faith and hope in God can do that. I've done far better without "church" than I've been able to do in "church". But, no one would even be able to understand my story, or even hear me out. All it takes is one look at me, and people assume I'm lost or confused. I've had to rebuild my sense of reality, purpose, and meaning from the ground up, lay a foundation, and understand what religion is all about. I'm not the one that's confused. The one's who think they have all the answers are more lost than those who've had to suffer the trials and errors to learn things the hard way. You can learn a lot more by navigating the ocean yourself, than by studying that map.
Well said, but its clear your trying to convince people of god through incognito christain apologetics...nice try though.
Not being religious does not mean unteachable, selfish or anything else you describe it as! You have a misunderstanding of what we mean by not being religious. Far too many practice religion that will hear God say depart from me I never knew you.
Also doesn’t mean we are not connected to a body of Christ followers.
This is nonsense, could finish it.
Being so called spiritual is their religion.
i think people say Spiritual to cop out honestly. basically saying "I believe there is a God and i acknowledge that he exists but well thats it and I talk to him when i need something." Its a cop out born of this bullshit modern day concept that any sort of rules or standards are now considered narrow minded and intolerant. screw that tolerance isn't a virtue
Tarot is a sin
::yawn:: spirituality = religion freeware
Spiritual is silly, a decadent ego projection.
I think the same thing about preachers who claim to know what God thinks.
Spirituality is being open hearted, being kind to others, no matter what type of person they may be, letting people be themselves in the best way possible. I personally believe 'God' isn't real, but I'm extremely spiritual. The idea of praying and begging to something 'higher' than you. Though spirituality is being connected through groudedness. Being equals, not putting yourself below or above anyone else.
@@nlg0x Is there an after life?
@@robertlight5227 A life where you are your true self, your spiritual being, your soul. I don't know if you'd call it an afterlife, because you can connect with your spirit in this conscious human experience. But to an extent you live your 'afterlife' in the spiritual souls we are, after you die.
@@nlg0x Can u prove any of this belief? It sounds merely like opinion with no verification.
ideology sorry you are not there. i
I am disgusted by how sexist every religion is so no thanks, and the condoning of abuse and condemning of diverse sexialities and gender identities. Religion can find me when people start getting it right. Hence, never.
Religion is man's search for God
Christianity is God's search for man
God doesn't search for man!!!
Slanus Greenstreet Read “The Hound of Heaven” by Francis Thompson.
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Christianity, Islam, Mormonism. Are all cults.
Judaism, Methodism, Lutheranism, Episcopalianism and Baptists are NOT cults( these are only Abrahmic religions.
Please explain how Christianity is a cult, but "Methodism, Lutheranism, Episcopalianism and Baptists" are not, even though they are forms of Christianity.
This video is bad ngl
very true
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