Well said there need to be big changers i run a very nice Bsa meteor rifle the wood is very nice it from the late 70s to early 80snthe barrel is good internal and external it has a great trigger shoots well and in 22cal and it likes the new wasps Rws superdome rws hobby air arms field diablo.
Good to see there is a channel with airguns without all the PCP stuff. I spent my youth with spring airguns. Even today I have so much fun with. Owner as adult of many of the top models by Weihrauch and DIANA. Thanks for sharing! Yor voice has something of ASMR.
Recently got a chrony to test out my Diana 34. It is old and inconsistent. CPH 7.9gr avg: 763 fps 10.21ft-lbs. spread: 32 StdDev: 10.89. Watching your videos makes me think I need to tune it.
I bought one of these rifles for my brother about ten years ago and it is a very good shooter in .22. Later I bought him a 460 in a .22 and it is also a terrific shooter.
eyeballing this D34 centennial (came out in 2010) edition in 177 . walnut stock, very nice. like new and all factory full power but asking equal to US700. ...like I need another !
😉 If you wanted a World Beater Super Magnum... You just ordered the 350M and it did exactly what they said it would do ! AND Give you Pects like Mighty Mouse !!! 💪
I've always been looking at and wondering if I should buy, a Diana 34, maybe when the the 'shooting supplies piggy bank' is replenished, I should go shopping for one. In the meantime Kevin, my local Gunsmith has recently picked up a large collect of rifles from an Estate, and among them is an HW35 Weihrauch. which has a broken stock and some other blemishes of poor handling and old age showing. He figures he can restore this to 'good as nearly new' and has offered me first refusal, if I'm interested. So now I have another one to consider. I will be test shooting this one, and check it out as you do with a Chronograph and target shooting session, so we can see what's what. I am interested even now. We will see later.
Absolutely. The "bell" is actually a 14" diameter, demolition saw blade. Check out this video for a quick look at it. ua-cam.com/video/HWnJSuXv4CI/v-deo.htmlsi=sRp83_jJAxYDuZm9
@@razor1962 Hi Kevin, forgive me but, 14" sounds rather large. The largest I have on hand is a 7", but I'm not sure where I'd place it. I try to keep a low profile, but the ringing sound is great fun. R, Steve
@@razor1962 Hello again, 14" sounds really large. Do you find it difficult to hit a smaller saw blade with your spring piston guns? I noticed that most of the impacts are in the lower 2/3rds of the saw blade. R, Steve
@@steveinla8963 Not at all. I placed the "bell" at 60 yards. It's certainly not much of a challenge to hit it. The smaller blades just don't ring like the 14" one does. At 60 yards, many of my rifles will keep the pellets within a 1" group.
Hi Kevin! Nice Diana. A legend. The new Diana's are not my cup of tea. Don't like plastic details. I put a new spring and seals in a Mod.53 side lever from a friend and the old ones are very well made. Looking forward when the kit is installed. Cheers! 😁
That won't get any more accurate left shot as is. Just listen to the gun (3:00 - seems like it got louder) it should not be making that much noise it sounds very dry just by swinging the barrel up and down. New spring and lube should do the trick. And I'm willing to bet once the tune is done after it breaks in you can pull off a much tighter group shooting with just open sights alone. Good find MC I love the open sights on this 34! 👍🏻
Thanks. It was as one would expect inside. Not dry and all parts were in good shape. I'll be releasing a video detailing the installation of an ARH tune kit in the near future. I neglected to order a new piston seal, however, so there will be a follow-up video as well. We'll get this gun shooting perfectly.
Hi Marc i have the Model 36 in a 22 caliber. I have it a long time. I just can't find a mount for the scope to stop the movement..Any ideas? Thanks and another Great Video pal!!!
if the gun has a little barreldroop ,its not impossible that that explains the group ,a barrel perfect in line will be less swinging and better lockt and its more accurat with a scope,if barreldroop is there correct it with a ittlle removing of the hitting spots from the barrelblock till its correct . no barrel seal in the barrel at that time , mount the gun in a vice .waterlevel on the cilinder tube and on the barrel you see it
I watched your videos on the Diana 34 .177 rifle the other day and that prompted me to pull my 34 out of the closet and give it a quick once over... plans are to start plinking with it. One question I have is regarding a small flat head screw on the scope rails towards the rear of the compression tube... it has a very short screw thread and on my RWS 300 scope mount I noticed this screw prevented seating the scope mount entirely over the scope rails. One post online said this screw can shear off by the force of the recoil and it should be removed when mounting the scope... it also prevents using the scope locking screws since it pushes the scope mount out of the locking screw hole alignment. When I gave my rifle a quick clean I noticed my locking screws had backed themselves up to the scope tube. I removed the flat head screw blocking the scope mount and aligned the scope locking screws and tightened everything down. My question is... what was the flat headed screw's purpose?
While I've never had occasion to remove that screw, my guess is that it's there to help anchor the scope rail. You are correct not to mount your scope with the mount touching the screw. It can indeed sheer off if your mount is slipping. I mount my rear ring just forward of that screw. Close, but not quite touching. That way, it's easy to determine if your scope mount is slipping. If you're unable to achieve the proper eye relief, consider an offset ring. Thanks for watching.
Hi, we've spoken before reference your oddly long barrelled Tracker There are two fundamental engineering faults with the 34 platform, one is the wedge breech, you really have to press those pellets in, make sure there is no lip at the bottom or it will clip it when closing. The most egregious however, is the transfer port, you will note that it emerges behind the breech. Now, take a peek inside, and you will see it is central in the tube. The thinking behind collecting the air centrally is that it is most efficient, and that is entirely correct, until you make a ridiculous dog leg drilling with two angled corners between that point and the pellet. Filling the transfer port with your favoured metal epoxy and then drilling it through from the breech end will give you about 50fps (allowing a lighter spring/piston if you wish as an option, without any power loss) It's a really silly idea that they have stuck with for about 60 years now. The 34 is a widely copied platform, all those Chinese Remingtons etc etc etc are using it...but they have all eschewed this, necessarily(in the case of having TP chicanery), long compression tube plug and drilled through direct, and all of them make better power (the barrels vary unfortunately on most clones.. might get a tack driver, then the next throws a pattern like a coach gun) but the powerplant efficiency of having a straight transfer port and the longer stroke having a more conventional breech plug size is very obvious. So, if you ever want to tune that 34, that's the place that profound efficiency gains are made Dom
Lots of useful information. Thank you so much. While I won't be re-drilling any transfer ports, I'm sure that someone will put this info to use. Thanks so much, my friend.
Does that rifle have a kit installed or is it stock? Those velocities are incredible my 1999 made 34 will only shoot the 7.9 Crosmans around 850 fps and it has a brand new full power Vortek spring and piston seal.
The GRT kit may be a little hot for a .177 mod. 34. The GSX-OS would be my suggestion if you don't mind losing a little speed compared to the factory output. They are both excellent kits. Best wishes.
That's right, my friend. I'll be installing a 12 ft lb ARH kit in an upcoming video. I had ordered by mistake when I attempted to order the full power kit. Im actually glad the it worked out that way. Thanks for watching!
Underated guns the 34's I had a bugbuster for a short while, found the crosshairs too thick for me & mounting wasn't easy on some guns due to the short tube so moved it on.
Hi, how are you doing? Can you please help me out, I have a Diana 45 old model with the metal trigger and I’m looking for the Tun up kit, thank you for your help 👋👍
Not sure who will offer a kit specifically for an old model 45. I'm pretty sure that those rfles had leather piston seals. You can probably obtain a custom, high output spring for it, but I don't know of anyone who offers a complete kit. Thanks for watching.
Agreed. I will always admire a gun that relies upon metal ( preferably steel) and wood. I don't dislike synthetics, and I understand that there are advantages, but for me, wood will always be the only choice as long as there is one. There's no denying the quality of some other great piston gun manufacturers who employ plastic sparingly and safely. I won't let a little plastic stop me from being interested in a gun, but a gun with no plastic will almost always sell me on it.
Hmmm...I'm having a hard time finding one that isn't the EMS, Classic version. I'll be looking for another 34 in .22 soon. Thanks for watching my friend.
The old style Diana 34 is classy. That is something that the new Diana 34 lost with the plastic sights.
Yes, sadly, as time passes, manufacturers find new ways to cut costs. Ultimately, we pay the price either way...Thanks as always my friend.
Completely agree with you mate
Well said there need to be big changers i run a very nice Bsa meteor rifle the wood is very nice it from the late 70s to early 80snthe barrel is good internal and external it has a great trigger shoots well and in 22cal and it likes the new wasps Rws superdome rws hobby air arms field diablo.
The 34 is a great gun. Very reliable and extremely tunable like all Dianas. Mine runs just as well at 12fpe as it does at 16fpe. Great video Kevin!
Thank you! Turns out that I ordered the 12 ft lb kit for mine too. I'll be installing it in an upcoming video.
Thanks as always my friend.
BEAUTY. POWER . ACCURACY … to find such virtues in something as simple as an air rifle is truly a blessing and a treasure .
Indeed Richard, this is exactly what keeps my interest piqued with springers. Thanks as always my friend.
Mine is arriving today. Bought it used and supposedly like new. Photos back it up. Been wanting one for a while now.
Terrific rifle. Especially with the TO6 trigger. Enjoy!
OUTSTANDING.
Good to see there is a channel with airguns without all the PCP stuff. I spent my youth with spring airguns. Even today I have so much fun with. Owner as adult of many of the top models by Weihrauch and DIANA.
Thanks for sharing!
Yor voice has something of ASMR.
LOL regarding my voice. Thanks for watching. So glad that you found the channel.
Recently got a chrony to test out my Diana 34. It is old and inconsistent. CPH 7.9gr avg: 763 fps 10.21ft-lbs. spread: 32 StdDev: 10.89. Watching your videos makes me think I need to tune it.
It definitely sounds like it needs attention. A rebuild could be in order.
Oh Diana 34, my faithful companion growing up.
I'm sure that you're not alone. I would've loved to own a model 34 in my youth. Thanks so much for watching, my friend.
Great little gun, had one in the 1984 ,should have kept it. Great video.
The good news, Iwan, is that they're pretty easy to find on the used market. Thanks as always my friend.
Great video Kevin... Hope to see the tune for it... Thanks again for shearing
Thanks John, I'll be installing a 12 ft lb kit from ARH in a future video.
See you on Saturday, my friend.
I bought one of these rifles for my brother about ten years ago and it is a very good shooter in .22. Later I bought him a 460 in a .22 and it is also a terrific shooter.
I need you to call "My" Brother and tell him to "Step Up His Game" ! 😂
Wow David, you've got a very lucky brother. You've also got good taste in airguns.
Thanks for watching my friend.
Looking forward to the tune up Kevin! Really nice rifle!thanks for the video!
Thank you, Dave. I'll be installing a 12 ft lb kit from ARH in an upcoming video. Thanks as always my friend.
always good to see springers . The 34 is a solid performer and a classic. Best with a 16 J spring.
Thanks for watching, my friend.
eyeballing this D34 centennial (came out in 2010) edition in 177 . walnut stock, very nice. like new and all factory full power but asking equal to US700. ...like I need another !
@nilslarson7532 Sounds like a pretty one, for sure. You only live once Nils....😊
Why is it best at 16J?
Great review Kevin, bit of a twang of her, No doubt you will rectify that problem.
Thanks Pat. Yes, you know me and what I think about the "twang"...😁
Unlike other brands, the Fpe that Diana pretends is what you can always expect.
😉 If you wanted a World Beater Super Magnum... You just ordered the 350M and it did exactly what they said it would do ! AND Give you Pects like Mighty Mouse !!! 💪
Honesty goes a long way with me. Real world claims are welcome. Thanks as always my friend.
Can't wait to see what the tune kit does for the rifle! 30 for the spread is pretty big. We'll see!
Most likely the Piston Seal... 🤔
Some of those shots were blowing smoke.
Yes, I will be installing an ARH 12ft lb kit soon. Thanks for watching my friend.
I have a RWS 34 with the T06 trigger and a 12 ft/lb Vortek kit. It is all I need in an air rifle smooth accurate and a joy to shoot.
Indeed. Thanks for watching, my friend.
A tune kit ought to bring this rifle right to the top. Never been disappointed in my RWS guns. ScottinPa.
Hi Scott. I'll be installing a 12 ft lb ARH tune kit in an upcoming video. Thanks as always my friend.
Already looking forward to the tuning.
Thank you. Coming soon. This will be the first in a two video series.
I put one of ARH's kits in my .22 350 Magnum. Along with his spring tar and moly paste. Next to no spring buzz and much smoother. 24ft'/lbs.
Mr Macarri produces a fine product. I'll be installing one of his 12 ft lb kits in this rifle. Thanks as always, my friend.
Given the 350M's power level you can Delrin/Polypropylene sleeve the piston to tweak out any residual Buzz... 😉 That's a Pretty Significant spring. 😳
Nice work Kevin!
Thanks very much my friend.
I've always been looking at and wondering if I should buy, a Diana 34, maybe when the the 'shooting supplies piggy bank' is replenished, I should go shopping for one.
In the meantime Kevin, my local Gunsmith has recently picked up a large collect of rifles from an Estate, and among them is an HW35 Weihrauch. which has a broken stock and some other blemishes of poor handling and old age showing. He figures he can restore this to 'good as nearly new' and has offered me first refusal, if I'm interested. So now I have another one to consider.
I will be test shooting this one, and check it out as you do with a Chronograph and target shooting session, so we can see what's what. I am interested even now. We will see later.
That HW35 is a classic. Such a fine rifle. I hope the deal works out for you. Thanks as always my friend.
Hello, could you show us your "bell" sometime? Is it really a bell, or another piece of metal like a section of tubing? Thanks, R, Steve
Absolutely. The "bell" is actually a 14" diameter, demolition saw blade.
Check out this video for a quick look at it.
ua-cam.com/video/HWnJSuXv4CI/v-deo.htmlsi=sRp83_jJAxYDuZm9
@@razor1962 Hi Kevin, forgive me but, 14" sounds rather large. The largest I have on hand is a 7", but I'm not sure where I'd place it. I try to keep a low profile, but the ringing sound is great fun. R, Steve
@steveinla8963 Check with someone in construction. They may have an idea where you could find an old, worn-out blade.
@@razor1962 Hello again, 14" sounds really large. Do you find it difficult to hit a smaller saw blade with your spring piston guns? I noticed that most of the impacts are in the lower 2/3rds of the saw blade. R, Steve
@@steveinla8963 Not at all. I placed the "bell" at 60 yards. It's certainly not much of a challenge to hit it. The smaller blades just don't ring like the 14" one does. At 60 yards, many of my rifles will keep the pellets within a 1" group.
I need to get my 34 out! Haven’t had it out this year yet
What about your 36 ? 😏 Hell... drag out the Diana Stable ! 😊
Can’t forget about the old Winchester 435 and 425
Great stuff!
Go for it Nibs!!! Awesome rifle!
Great, looking forward to seeing what it's like with a tuning kit in it ✌️😎
Thanks very much. Tune kit installation video coming soon.
Thanks so much for watching my friend.
Hi Kevin! Nice Diana. A legend. The new Diana's are not my cup of tea. Don't like plastic details. I put a new spring and seals in a Mod.53 side lever from a friend and the old ones are very well made. Looking forward when the kit is installed. Cheers! 😁
Thanks Ron. It really is a shame the way manufacturers are becoming more and more reliant on plastic.
That won't get any more accurate left shot as is. Just listen to the gun (3:00 - seems like it got louder) it should not be making that much noise it sounds very dry just by swinging the barrel up and down. New spring and lube should do the trick. And I'm willing to bet once the tune is done after it breaks in you can pull off a much tighter group shooting with just open sights alone. Good find MC I love the open sights on this 34! 👍🏻
Thanks. It was as one would expect inside. Not dry and all parts were in good shape. I'll be releasing a video detailing the installation of an ARH tune kit in the near future. I neglected to order a new piston seal, however, so there will be a follow-up video as well. We'll get this gun shooting perfectly.
Hopefully the tune kit will get rid of that twang.
Looking forward to seeing the results.
I'll be installing a 12 ft lb kit from ARH. The twang will disappear. 😁
Thanks for watching my friend.
@@razor1962 ARH, is that Jim Maccari?
I’ve heard he’s very good and especially with the old FWB sports?
@Kev Spinage That's the guy and yes, he's the man to see on those old 124s and 127s
Hi Marc i have the Model 36 in a 22 caliber. I have it a long time. I just can't find a mount for the scope to stop the movement..Any ideas? Thanks and another Great Video pal!!!
B-square makes very good mounts which will usually hold securely without movement.
Thanks for watching my friend.
Diana ZR Mount ! I have one on My 50S with a Hawke 4-12×50 😉👍
Nice Kevin , I have 2 Diana’s air bug and a 54 air king very well made air guns .
Indeed. Diana makes a fine airgun. Thanks as always, my friend.
@@razor1962 welcome Kevin
if the gun has a little barreldroop ,its not impossible that that explains the group ,a barrel perfect in line will be less swinging and better lockt and its more accurat with a scope,if barreldroop is there correct it with a ittlle removing of the hitting spots from the barrelblock till its correct . no barrel seal in the barrel at that time ,
mount the gun in a vice .waterlevel on the cilinder tube and on the barrel you see it
Good info Peter. Thanks very much and thanks for watching my friend.
Do you have any of your used airguns for sale?
Hi John. I'm sorry, but I currently have nothing available for sale.
Thanks for reaching out, my friend.
Curious what the 34 would chrony with some of the heavier 10gr .177 pellets.
I'll be looking for a .22, 34 to max out. For this one, I'll be installing a 12 ft lb ARH kit.
Thanks as always, my friend.
I watched your videos on the Diana 34 .177 rifle the other day and that prompted me to pull my 34 out of the closet and give it a quick once over... plans are to start plinking with it. One question I have is regarding a small flat head screw on the scope rails towards the rear of the compression tube... it has a very short screw thread and on my RWS 300 scope mount I noticed this screw prevented seating the scope mount entirely over the scope rails. One post online said this screw can shear off by the force of the recoil and it should be removed when mounting the scope... it also prevents using the scope locking screws since it pushes the scope mount out of the locking screw hole alignment. When I gave my rifle a quick clean I noticed my locking screws had backed themselves up to the scope tube. I removed the flat head screw blocking the scope mount and aligned the scope locking screws and tightened everything down. My question is... what was the flat headed screw's purpose?
While I've never had occasion to remove that screw, my guess is that it's there to help anchor the scope rail. You are correct not to mount your scope with the mount touching the screw. It can indeed sheer off if your mount is slipping. I mount my rear ring just forward of that screw. Close, but not quite touching. That way, it's easy to determine if your scope mount is slipping. If you're unable to achieve the proper eye relief, consider an offset ring. Thanks for watching.
Hi, we've spoken before reference your oddly long barrelled Tracker
There are two fundamental engineering faults with the 34 platform, one is the wedge breech, you really have to press those pellets in, make sure there is no lip at the bottom or it will clip it when closing.
The most egregious however, is the transfer port, you will note that it emerges behind the breech.
Now, take a peek inside, and you will see it is central in the tube. The thinking behind collecting the air centrally is that it is most efficient, and that is entirely correct, until you make a ridiculous dog leg drilling with two angled corners between that point and the pellet.
Filling the transfer port with your favoured metal epoxy and then drilling it through from the breech end will give you about 50fps (allowing a lighter spring/piston if you wish as an option, without any power loss)
It's a really silly idea that they have stuck with for about 60 years now.
The 34 is a widely copied platform, all those Chinese Remingtons etc etc etc are using it...but they have all eschewed this, necessarily(in the case of having TP chicanery), long compression tube plug and drilled through direct, and all of them make better power (the barrels vary unfortunately on most clones.. might get a tack driver, then the next throws a pattern like a coach gun) but the powerplant efficiency of having a straight transfer port and the longer stroke having a more conventional breech plug size is very obvious.
So, if you ever want to tune that 34, that's the place that profound efficiency gains are made
Dom
Lots of useful information. Thank you so much. While I won't be re-drilling any transfer ports, I'm sure that someone will put this info to use.
Thanks so much, my friend.
Does that rifle have a kit installed or is it stock? Those velocities are incredible my 1999 made 34 will only shoot the 7.9 Crosmans around 850 fps and it has a brand new full power Vortek spring and piston seal.
Hi Wes. Yes, the 34 has a full power kit from ARH installed.
Thanks for watching, my friend.
The GRT kit may be a little hot for a .177 mod. 34. The GSX-OS would be my suggestion if you don't mind losing a little speed compared to the factory output. They are both excellent kits. Best wishes.
That's right, my friend. I'll be installing a 12 ft lb ARH kit in an upcoming video. I had ordered by mistake when I attempted to order the full power kit. Im actually glad the it worked out that way. Thanks for watching!
Underated guns the 34's I had a bugbuster for a short while, found the crosshairs too thick for me & mounting wasn't easy on some guns due to the short tube so moved it on.
I'm having the same complaints about the BugBuster. Thanks as always my friend.
Hi, how are you doing? Can you please help me out, I have a Diana 45 old model with the metal trigger and I’m looking for the Tun up kit, thank you for your help 👋👍
Not sure who will offer a kit specifically for an old model 45. I'm pretty sure that those rfles had leather piston seals.
You can probably obtain a custom, high output spring for it, but I don't know of anyone who offers a complete kit. Thanks for watching.
With that output you might want to try the Diana Super Mag.s or CPH ? 🤔
Can't wait to see the Tune video ! 😀
Thanks Marc. I'll be installing a 12 ft lb kit fro ARH in an upcoming video.
Thanks for watching my friend.
@@razor1962 Sweet ! 😃👍 Do try the Super Mags then. They tend to be annoyingly accurate. 🤔
Just don’t let Mark know about this rifle 😊
He already knows, Paul. He's got a custom left hand blank for it that may be headed my way. Stay tuned...
Ohhhhh , I’m screwed !!!
Thank you for these wonderful videos, a big like and I am adding my wife as a subscriber to your channel.
Thanks so much, Paul. I sincerely appreciate your viewership.
The disappointment part about the rifle is the plastic parts like the trigger, safety latch, other than that it’s a good rifle 👋
Agreed. I will always admire a gun that relies upon metal ( preferably steel) and wood.
I don't dislike synthetics, and I understand that there are advantages, but for me, wood will always be the only choice as long as there is one.
There's no denying the quality of some other great piston gun manufacturers who employ plastic sparingly and safely. I won't let a little plastic stop me from being interested in a gun, but a gun with no plastic will almost always sell me on it.
As far as i am aware the Diana 34 is still available new.
Hmmm...I'm having a hard time finding one that isn't the EMS, Classic version.
I'll be looking for another 34 in .22 soon. Thanks for watching my friend.
@@razor1962 i thought the EMS classic 34 was the same model as yours , my mistake.
Really like your channel.
@Ian White Thank you, Ian. So glad to hear that you're enjoying the channel.
9 61 what? Cows?
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Sorry.
.22 fps?
.177 cal. 940 fps.