Love the fact that this guy begins by highlighting the essence of a rare and unique level of talent... a chanel that brings you about 100 unique talents per month
It's extremely annoying but I can hardly blame the guy, he's playing the algorithm like most cookie cutter semi successful channels. Only truly exceptional channels make it without playing the numbers.
His former teammate Nico Young might've been on that list if Covid-19 hadn't destroyed the 2020 outdoor season. Nico was jammin as a senior, having broken the NXN course record, and then the 3,000 indoor national record. Fast. Edit: Colin's 1500 split from that indoor mile was 3.44, which is fastest in the nation this year. He could prolly go sub 3.40 outdoors.
bro Corona is the sole reason we have all those records and new Prs talents etc.there was no testing for a huge chunk of 2020 Think about it. Jacobs 10.00 to 9.80 in 1 year 🤣
We have to remember that Colin has 3 teammates breathing down his neck right behind him, pushing him to these times. Everyone else on that list won most of their races by margins
He can't help if he runs for Newbury Park, and even his brother is good enough to breathe down his neck. Besides, he usually goes to the front and holds it.
@@chadtaylor1788 nah I think its a good point to make, solo running is just tougher to get better times, so colin definitely benefitted from having the other 2 best highschool runners of all time
Yessss she SMASHED that world record in indoor worlds!!! I was thinking about this chanel and how I'd love to have the statistics explained by this gentleman!
Impossible to touch Ryan’s accomplishments, however Colin’s versatility is crazy. His most impressive run to date is ‘21 cross nationals, entire NP team rewrote the record book. But his 800 and mile speed is also undeniable. I think Colin has the potential to smash 3k and 5k records at NAU. Will be amazing to see him reunite with Nico
There's no doubt the 2021 XC National Course is short. All of the runners ran between 20-30 second PR's on that course. Let's see how close Colin gets to Rupp's National 5K High School record of 13:37.
Alan Webb smashed Ryun's H.S. record for the mile by almost 2 seconds, when he ran a 3:53.6 almost 21 years ago. Ryun's best 800m in H.S. was 1:49.2 and Webb ran a 1:47.7/800m and Ryun's best 2 mile time was 9:04 in H.S. and Alan Webb ran an 8:45 2 mile time in H.S. And Hobbs Kessler smashed Jim Ryun's 1500m time of 3:39, last year, when he ran a 3:34.6 1500m time. That is equivalent to a 3:52 mile time.
@@richardmilliken8705 Modern athletes benefit from many things including Webb 20 years ago. If Ryun was running today with all of those benefits there’s a pretty good chance he could win against these guys.
@@daltonpulsipher I think you're right. Everything has improved significantly since 1965, when Ryun set the H.S. Mile Record of 3:55. And it is nice to see that he is still considered the GOAT H.S. Athlete. ua-cam.com/video/8AgSJE9DUxQ/v-deo.html
Another AMAZING video, man! Colin Sahlman easily cracks the Top 10 U.S. High School All-Time, and should probably be ranked in the Top 4, but not #1. If Sahlman would have qualified for the U.S. Olympic Team in Tokyo as an 11th Grader last season, the way Jim Ryun made the Olympic team as an 11th Grader back in 1964 (coincidentally, also in Tokyo), it would be a tougher decision to make.
Indeed! Jim Ryun would've run sub 3:50 with the incredible tracks and running shoes they have now. Ryun also would've run 1:45 in the 800 meters. And with coach Brosnan, he would've run 8:20 for the 2mile.
I think a Solid Number 3 placement may be apt now in advance of the 2022 outdoor Session, but one things for sure, this guy is- longterm- really Special. Great Video & Research once again, love your Channel ( although I was only a sprinter & jumper in my day 🤗)
Ngl I don’t get the hype over American HS athletes. Im in my second last year of English secondary school (equatable to High school) I run a 3:50 1500m so I have a year to take off around 6 seconds to get my sub 4min mile before I leave what would he HS in America I train with a guy who won National 800m who does 1:50 And has a 3:44 1500 so is sub 4 in essence. And yet I’m only around top 25 in the U.K., is the US just much weaker per person at middle distance Or am I suffering from bias as I’m surrounded by incredibly fast people?
It’s not impossible to compare the two! Ryan is a far superior athlete! I would estimate if Ryan was running on the tracks today it worth at least a second a lap and if had the lighter spikes and better nutrition who knows.
Ryun (let’s spell his name correctly!) was not just the best high school runner ever, he’s the best high school ANYTHING ever. He ran multiple sub four minute miles while in high school including in a state meet, on a cinder track, obviously running by himself. He ran under four minutes as a junior in high school. He made the freaking Olympic team when he was 17!! He was a household name in the United States as a teenage runner, which is simply unheard of.
@@jefffawcett I couldn't agree more. Also, as a high schooler in 1965, Ryun ran 3:55.3, within 1.7 seconds of the world record. No other high school miler has come anywhere near the world record. By comparison, Alan Webb ran 3:53.43. Faster than Ryun, but 10.3 seconds slower than the world record of 3:43.13 at the time. A great effort, but not even close to Ryun's achievement.
@@rodjohnson2632 El G's World Record for the Mile was done with the help of EPO, HGH, and Testosterone and that's why 25 years later it still has not been broken. There's no doubt that Hobbs Kessler's National High School Record of 3:34 for the 1,500 meters, which is almost 5 seconds faster than Jim Ryun's High School best of 3:39 is a superior time, even when you figure the running shoes, faster tracks,nutrition and training. Kessler smashed Webb's 1500 meter H.S. time of 3:38 by 4 seconds. Hobbs also hold the H.S Record for the Indoor Mile with a 3:57. Hobb's 1500 meter time last year in HS was faster than the NCAA Outdoor 1500 meter record. Hobbs was also ran a 8:39/ 2 mile time as well as an 1:47 / 800 meter relay leg in H.S.
I usually watch your videos with my 2 year old daughter because she LOVES running and to run fast but I fucks with your channel because you NEVER talk shit about how runners suck or they are overrated or overhyped, it's all love from you to everyone in the sport. One of the only sports channels on youtube where that happens.
Dathan graduated from Rockford High School. I went there and got a track scholarship due to our school being one of the most known D1 high schools in MI. Good to see him getting mentioned and seeing his extremely old R uniforms. He’s still well-known in the area. The one year I ran CC (2013ish), I got to meet him on my birthday. Great man and doesn’t act like he’s “well-known”. Incredible athletes you cover. Keep it up!
As a runner from Michigan as well Dathan’s accomplishments are beyond legendary. In another video it’s mentioned that no one’s gotten closer than 37 seconds I think to the national record he set on the same MIS speedway course. And of course he ran away in winning the Foot Locker “national championships” from the likes of Alan Webb and Ryan Hall.
It should be noted that Colin did lose to Cade Flatt at new balance nationals indoor. To be fair I’m pretty confident that was Flatt’s first race and was fresh while Colin had run the 4xmile the night before.
And Ryun & Pre with today's training, running shoes and super-fast-tracks, would've run much faster than today's H.S. runners. Jim Ryun would've run 3:48 mile, 1:45/800m and 8:25/2 mile. Pre would've run an 8:18/2 mile & 13:20/ 5K and Lindgren would've run an 8:15/ 2mile & a 13:15/5K & a 27:55/10K in H.S. Only Hobbs Kessler & Alan Webb would've been competitive against Jim Ryun in the mile in H.S.
Setting the American record in the mile, missing the world record by less than two seconds, AND beating the Olympic champion in the process makes Jim Ryun the GOAT high school distance runner of all time. No one else is even close.
Agreed. Ryun would've made the 1964 Olympic final (1500) had he not contracted a flu bug. He was 17!! The fact that he qualified for the US Olympic team against the best milers in America is just mind boggling. Then the following yr as HS Sr. He was ranked in the world top 5.
He and the whole Newbury Park HS team have been pulverizing HS distance running for the last 2 years. Twins Lex and Leo Young from the same team are nearly as good as Colin, and Colin's younger brother nearly beat him in the 880, running in the high 1:40's, and is probably only 4 or 5 seconds back in the mile. That whole team is scary fast.
German Fernandez is a robot. He went to. School with my niece. I watched him blow away everyone in 800 , 1600 and 3200. At state he lapped everyone in the race. He was a beast!
Idk why youtube recomended this channel to me, BUT i watch every video.. I suddenly love T&F. Well, I like numbers and comparing numbers and records and stuff.. I hope to be alive when the regular 2h-Marathon will be achieved.
If we think Colin is gonna be one of the greatest then you gotta wait for Lex and Leo Young. They’re running times pretty close to them and they’re still a year younger, hell, Lex is probably gonna break 4 this outdoor. and they just turned 17 like a month ago
If Sahlman had an unbelievable Sr. Track campaign I can see him moving up to 4 or 5 HS alltime. Maybe 3? Ryun & Lingren are almost impossible to surpass. They were so unbelievably talented at age 17-18 I just can't see them not be 1& 2 respectively. GOATS for sure.
Never had the pleasure of getting to know young future stars so much. This channel is in my top 5 subs of over 400 channels. Probs top 3 tbh. 👌🏼 Also, could you keep us posted ( or maybe do a vid?) on his younger brother Aaron? Looks like he might be beating his older bother soon? 👍🏼
This youngster has an engine for a heart. That is very good performance for some so young. Give it some time before you place him on the list of all time high school greats.
I was a few time all American in D2 and this kid would have kicked my ass in everything haha. I love these videos, thankful to have an insightful UA-camr doing great research and asking awesome questions. Keep going!
Congrats on your successes! Your achievements aren't insignificant, even if you think guy kick your butt! Can you give any training tips for my upcoming HS Freshman? He's fast, in our area (not crazy fast tho), but mostly uncoached & keeps getting shin splints. Someone said he's running too much & over-training, but he probably couldn't have won conference & regionals (8th grade) (no state comp for MS) & finished 7th at Eastbay/Footlocker Midwest Regionals (MS division), & qualified for Indoor Nationals if he hadn't been "over-training". He usually just runs 7-10 miles daily, sometimes in 2-a-days (5 miles morning & night). He doesn't have a coach. Any advice to train/improve/avoid further injury, Keegan?
Fortunately for Eric Holt, he’s already done sub 4 indoors and outdoors before. Also I am excited for the next generation of college athletes, who may bring us a sub 3:50 indoor mile before turning pro.
Yeah, I personally think Colin is a solid 4 on that list, since he is so versatile. I also think Nico could've been on the list if he hadn't lost a year to Covid.
@@trinidadrodriquez876 true, I think going outside the USA the best youth athlete ever would probably be Jacob Kiplimo, he was hitting ridiculous times at 15 and qualified for the Olympics even younger than Jim Ryun
I personally think Dathan is the best HS cross country runner ever. Because he ran his 14:10 at MIS, a much slower course, and also because he was a much faster 5K runner than any of his peers, oppose to Colin who was challenged by a few other people in the Nation. That being said he, is much better in track comparatively, I think, as an overall Track runner he is top 5 right with Hobbs except he favors more in the 2 and Hobbs in the shorter events
Did u see Dalia Frías 4:35 first race of the season? That was insane also CA state record. You should make a vid on that I think she will break the national record soon.
Hey Andrew, when are you doing to a video on the teenager Nicholas Griggs from Ireland who has very recently broken the European Under-20 indoor mile record, clocking a magnificent 3:56.40, less than three months after turning 17!
Hi @@richardmilliken8705 bit of a silly comment as I'm not saying he is is best of all time. Plus you are not comparing like for like, if we were then Hobbs Kessler's best indoor mile time is 3.57.10 which he did aged 18y 10m vs Nicholas Griggs 3.56.40 ages 17y 3m. So again, not sure why he doesn't deserve his own video in the future
@@aidanorourke1632 Hobbs Kessler 17yr 10mth at 3:57/ indoor mile and 18yr 2mth 3:34/ 1500m. Kessler was a World Ranked Rock Climber before he started training seriously at 16. I would give Griggs the edge over Colin Sahlman, as he is 14months younger. Your man deserves his own video.
Hi@@richardmilliken8705 at 16 this guy Nick Griggs was beating the best runners in Europe in the u20 championship who were all about 3 years older than him and running a final lap in 55 seconds. Agreed he should have his own video and when you say that you would give him "the edge" over Colin there is no argument at all. When Colin was aged 17 he was running 3,000m in 8m 34.68s and 5km in 14m 27s Nick at the same same was doing 3,000m in 7m 57s and 5k in 14m 15s so he is way ahead if we are comparing like for like and all of Nick's PBs today even are better than Colin's who is 14 months older. Looking forward to the video on him Andrew!
@@aidanorourke1632 Colin ran the 3K in 7:56.97, and the 3200m in 8:43 at 17 years of age and he won & ran the National High School XC 5K Championships in 14:03. The indoor mile is the only distance that Griggs has run faster than Colin. Grigg's 14:15.98 in the 5K on a track is nothing to write home about. I don't see Griggs coming close to Rupp's National H.S. 5K record of 13:37. Only time will tell, what kind of improvements both of these runners can. Jakob and the East Africans have produced much faster times on the track than any American or Ireland H.S. Athletes. I believe that Kipchoge ran the 5K in 12:50 at the age of 18.
It will be interesting to see what his future as a world class athlete holds. There have been so many high school wonders that under perform after that. I ran against the likes of Rudy Chapa and Carey Pinkowski back in the late 70's. Both top rated high schoolers and teammates at that time. Not that they didn't perform extremely well at University of Oregon and Villanova they never really made it to the world class level. For Chapa is was an injury that ended his career. I was at UofO when he attempted his failed comeback. It was sad to witness. Salazar was there and Pinkowski showed up as well. Last I heard Pinky was the Director of the Chicago Marathon.
I'd say that based on his current times, dominance against his peers and fairly favorable comparison against other greats, he's easily top 5 with a strong case for top 3. If he continues his strong form, I think he's capable of being #1 but we'll see where his times go.
Probably sumner bc sprinter 800m runners typically flourish in outdoor bc their speed endurance is built to run (in his case) 52,54 splits. I’m not sure Colin has the speed to run a race against him going out so fast but hey who knows
Probably sumner bc sprinter 800m runners typically flourish in outdoor bc their speed endurance is built to run (in his case) 52,54 splits. I’m not sure Colin has the speed to run a race against him going out so fast but hey who knows
Great video. He evidently has the talent, now we need to see if he has the temperament to sustain it. I hope he doesn't prove to be a 'fizzler'! I've seen so many promising young athletes just fizzle out when they got the big time.
The Newberry Phenomenon is these great runners all come from two families which obviously have some pretty fantastic genetics. The moms and dads must have been great athletes. It is no difference the Mondo Duplantis, the world record holder in the pole vault. His dad was a world class pole vaulter and his mom was a world class Heptathlete.
See the comment below about Colin having teammates so close. Ryun had none...and no rabbits....and dirt track.... and old shoes.... normal high school coach (not mega coaches of today).
Let's take it 1 step at a time. I don't see him breaking Hobbs Kessler's High School Record in the 1,500m which is 3:34 and Rupp's National H.S. record for the 5K is 13:37. Rudy Chapa's National H.S. Record for the 10K is 28:32. And Mike Granville's National H.S. Record for the 800M is 1:46.
Now that Colin is at NAU we can see that he still needs some serious development. On NAU which just accomplished the NCAA championship Colin was 6th or 7th man on the team. He is still a freshman and has only been through the cross country season. I am looking forward to what will happen next year after Lex and Leo arrive at Stanford and Aaron is added to NAU.
Wow! These guys are truly amazing, and the fact that Sahlman has several teammates very close to him in their performance tells me they must have some fantastic coaching, and so there's one big Q: What are their training methods?
I went to school in the same district and we had similar training plans, mostly just consistency really and icing and doing everything possible to eat well and maintain that perfect shape from the start to end of the season
@@Anthonylollz For sure we can say that Colin has extraordinary talent, genetics, if he indeed follows the same training and diet plans as his team-mates, but the fact that those team-mates aren't that far off from him in performance still suggests that their training is a big factor...Sure would like to have more details on that.
I hate to mention it but PED's come to mind whenever I see something like this. Okay, so when one or even two individuals from the same team perform at this level over the course of many years I can easily accept that. But when I see year over year domination and multiple teammates performing at this level year after year it does beg the question.
@@kenhalal375 Yes, that thought does come to mind. I wonder how tight is the testing for that at high school level, and I'd guess there might not even be any. We'll see how these athletes do as time goes on if they continue to compete. Meanwhile, I'd still like to know more about their training too...Is it something unique that might explain their success?
TRP - nit pick #1: Eric Holt did not "miss going under 4 minutes by 1/1,000 th of a second". He missed *going* *under* by *2* thousandths. Nit pick #2: because USATF and World Athletics still do not recognize XC certified courses, and because a variety of methods are used to measure XC 5Ks, there is little consistency in "5K" XC courses. This throws some shade on XC records at any particular distance. There is at least one XC 5K that has been measured with a steel tape, which would definitely be accurate IF proper measuring protocols were strictly adhered to. Then, "of course", elevation profiles vary hugely between courses. It is interesting but not necessarily valid that any 5K XC performance can be compared to another on a different course. Thanks for the great video.
Inasmuch as I admire the legendary Steve Prefontaine, there is no question that Sahlman’s resume dwarfs that of Prefontaine. Sahlman’s pace in the 3200 beats Prefontaine’s pace for his 2 mile record. Prefontaine did run a 13:52 in the 5k on the track, which is astounding, but Sahlman’s 14:03 5k national record in XC is clearly a better mark. (That said, Prefontaine, as a high schooler Prefontaine had essentially no competition, no elite coaching, no elite training staff, and ran on cinder tracks in rural Oregon in the 1960’s… but we’re not talking about how great Prefontaine could have been if he were in high school today, we’re talking about his actual achievements as much as they could be compared). I can’t wait to see what Sahlman and his Newbury Park teammates do this outdoor season.
Why are you comparing a kid who ran in the 60s to a kid who is running today. Why don't you compare Sahlman to international teenagers? Is it because he won't measure up?
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 this is not my comparison, this discussion is about who would be in the top ten best high schoolers in history. The list is all teens from the USA. There is no 1:1 comparison between any two runners, even those who have competed against each other.
@@jeffreycarman2185 Let's take it 1 step at a time. Hobbs Kessler set the H.S. Record for the 1500m last year with a 3:34 which smashed Webb's record of 3:38 for HS. And Lukas Verzbicas's H.S Record for the 2 mile is 8:29. Galen Rupp's H.S. Record for the 5K is 13:37. And Rudy Chapa's H.S. Record for the 10K is 28:32. And Mike Granville's H.S.Record for the 800m is 1:46.
Better update your stats...Gary Martin, Archbishop Wood High School 3:57.98 in the 1 Mile!!! Now there's 14 high schoolers all time sub 4 minutes. And he's the first in PA!
Arguably he should be in the Top 10. But factoring in that he has teammates pushing him all the time which most athletes never have and certainly the people in the top 10 list. Then factor in the new super shoes that have been supplying the world with so many faster times they should be outlawed. And of course the advances in technology with track surfaces and such and maybe he cracks the top 12 realistically compared to that group. Btw I was an editor for the first NXN for Nike and was a historian for years.
Rheinhardt Harrison ran an indoor 1,000m in 2:22 in January of this year, which works out to around 57 seconds per 400m, and then ran his first mile race in February 2022 at 4:01.15. I don't know why Harrison wouldn't be somewhere in this discussion. Anyway, A race between Sahlman and Harrison would be one for the ages. Hopefully it'll happen this year.
@@davidp5492 Based on what? I gave you FACTS, and you responded with literally none in return. Want more? Harrison did a workout of 3 x 1 mile repeats at 4:18, 4:14, and 4:07, followed by 3 x 400m at 54 for all three... This was not meant as a slight on Sahlman. Sahlman may well be better, but you can't just automatically ignore Harrison.
1. Gerry Lindgren 2. Jim Ryun 3. Dathan Ritzenhein 4. Lukas Verzbicas 5. Alan Webb 6. German Fernandez 7. Craig Virgin 8. Colin Sahlman 9. Drew Hunter 10. Jeff Nelson
If you took Ryan and put him with today's runners....HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY destroy the competition. With today's training and technology Colin would always be in his rear view mirror. That comparison isn't even close.... Ryan would destroy Colin all week and twice on Saturday invitationals. Ryan by far is the biggest freak out of high-school to walk these United States.
Ryun was from my era. I was not even close to any of them. Considering the advances in equipment, training, nutrition, surfaces, etc. Ryun might still be at the top. Always interesting to compare different eras or generations. Debate will continue I'm sure.
Newbury park has proven to be the goats. Not by having just one goat but the whole team loaded with goat talent. Colin graduated but his brother and the twins have not. Factor in a short season and you could argue how talented Nico really was then and now. My point is the athletes have to run the courses but it takes the right culture and hats off to brosnen for creating the vision and having the tools for these kids to develop so well. No doubt in my mind that this was the kids buying into great coach. His wife is still there and will see how it goes after this next group graduates.
Colin is Like 2 or 3 all Time for high school Runners.. He’s Something Else I Know he’ll make the Olympics one day he looks really Disciplined and From his interviews he’s a Really Humble Guy 😌 but he did get robbed of his Junior year cross country season and most of the track season last year cause of the pandemic 😕
This school sounds a lot like the Joe Newton York HS dynasty in Illinois. I have not followed it for years, but as I recall most all of their stand out runners were burned out by the time they got to college.
While all these young men should be acknowledged for their talent as high school runners that does not bode well for what is the ultimate goal. Going to and winning an Olympic or World Championship. Except for Jim Ryun and Galen Rupp all of these remarkable athletes display the short time as a top athlete as did all the previous athletes on your list. The demands of the sport are such that a top-level career longer than 4-5 years is the exception not the rule. So admire them for what they are now. Everything else is a bonus.
please look into Carly Wilkes from Virginia. she just committed to a D1 running college and in any event over the 800 she has dominated since freshman year. recently attended the new balance track meet and ran a 16:48 in the 5k. it would be really cool for you to look into it
He is obviously very strong for his age, but how does he compare to Jakob's times at the same age? Is he actually well in front? 1500 times 14 3:48.37 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 30 Jul 15 15 3:42.44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 9 Jun 16 16 3:39.92 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 18 Jun 17 17 3:31.18 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 20 Jul 18 18 3:30.16 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Lausanne 5 Jul 19 19 3:28.68 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 14 Aug 20 1 Mile 16 3:56.29 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 15 Jun 17 17 3:52.28 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Eugene OR 26 May 18 18 3:51.30 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stanford CA 30 Jun 19
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Love the fact that this guy begins by highlighting the essence of a rare and unique level of talent... a chanel that brings you about 100 unique talents per month
Yeah every video is so much hype and saying of all time .
It's extremely annoying but I can hardly blame the guy, he's playing the algorithm like most cookie cutter semi successful channels. Only truly exceptional channels make it without playing the numbers.
thats one of the most exceptional comments I've read in a long time
His former teammate Nico Young might've been on that list if Covid-19 hadn't destroyed the 2020 outdoor season. Nico was jammin as a senior, having broken the NXN course record, and then the 3,000 indoor national record. Fast.
Edit: Colin's 1500 split from that indoor mile was 3.44, which is fastest in the nation this year. He could prolly go sub 3.40 outdoors.
bro Corona is the sole reason we have all those records and new Prs talents etc.there was no testing for a huge chunk of 2020
Think about it.
Jacobs 10.00 to 9.80 in 1 year 🤣
Ryan STILL holds the mile record for a high school only mile.
@@hawaiianprestigecars8493 Yanks hate the fact an Italian won the 100m gold.... You mugs.
@@pervyboy69 Well, let's keep in mind that he is a Black Italian Stallion originally from the Bronx, NY.
@@richardmilliken8705 Weak
We have to remember that Colin has 3 teammates breathing down his neck right behind him, pushing him to these times. Everyone else on that list won most of their races by margins
Doesn’t matter how you get there if you get there you got there man don’t break down the hard work that they all still put in
He can't help if he runs for Newbury Park, and even his brother is good enough to breathe down his neck. Besides, he usually goes to the front and holds it.
@@chadtaylor1788 tell that for the uncounted sub 2 hours marathon
@@chadtaylor1788 nah I think its a good point to make, solo running is just tougher to get better times, so colin definitely benefitted from having the other 2 best highschool runners of all time
We should wait until he is a high school athlete no longer before having an accurate picture of where he should be ranked. Time will tell
Definitely, give him this season and then we'll know
100% agreed!
but it's fun to speculate!
Yeah can't wait for a video update to the top 10 list after this outdoor season
When he is no longer able to take PEDs and plateaus?
Would love to see a video of Yulimar Rojas, Venezuela doesn’t have a lot to cheer for and she is unbeatable on the triple jump. Thanks!
Is Yulimar Rojas the sister of Vida Rojas?
Yessss she SMASHED that world record in indoor worlds!!! I was thinking about this chanel and how I'd love to have the statistics explained by this gentleman!
She's amazing
I would love to see some more coverage of field athletes, not just runners. TRP touches on them at times, but not near as much as they deserve.
@@gunterlil952 to be fair the channel is called total running productions
Impossible to touch Ryan’s accomplishments, however Colin’s versatility is crazy. His most impressive run to date is ‘21 cross nationals, entire NP team rewrote the record book. But his 800 and mile speed is also undeniable. I think Colin has the potential to smash 3k and 5k records at NAU. Will be amazing to see him reunite with Nico
Man, would love to know how these guys train!
There's no doubt the 2021 XC National Course is short. All of the runners ran between 20-30 second PR's on that course. Let's see how close Colin gets to Rupp's National 5K High School record of 13:37.
Alan Webb smashed Ryun's H.S. record for the mile by almost 2 seconds, when he ran a 3:53.6 almost 21 years ago. Ryun's best 800m in H.S. was 1:49.2 and Webb ran a 1:47.7/800m and Ryun's best 2 mile time was 9:04 in H.S. and Alan Webb ran an 8:45 2 mile time in H.S. And Hobbs Kessler smashed Jim Ryun's 1500m time of 3:39, last year, when he ran a 3:34.6 1500m time. That is equivalent to a 3:52 mile time.
@@richardmilliken8705 Modern athletes benefit from many things including Webb 20 years ago. If Ryun was running today with all of those benefits there’s a pretty good chance he could win against these guys.
@@daltonpulsipher I think you're right. Everything has improved significantly since 1965, when Ryun set the H.S. Mile Record of 3:55. And it is nice to see that he is still considered the GOAT H.S. Athlete.
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Another AMAZING video, man! Colin Sahlman easily cracks the Top 10 U.S. High School All-Time, and should probably be ranked in the Top 4, but not #1. If Sahlman would have qualified for the U.S. Olympic Team in Tokyo as an 11th Grader last season, the way Jim Ryun made the Olympic team as an 11th Grader back in 1964 (coincidentally, also in Tokyo), it would be a tougher decision to make.
I don’t think he comes to his level, Jim Ryun ran in the 60s with a faster time. I don’t think any high schools comes to him Ryun
Indeed! Jim Ryun would've run sub 3:50 with the incredible tracks and running shoes they have now. Ryun also would've run 1:45 in the 800 meters. And with coach Brosnan, he would've run 8:20 for the 2mile.
I’d probably put Sahlman around 5th
I think a Solid Number 3 placement may be apt now in advance of the 2022 outdoor Session, but one things for sure, this guy is- longterm- really Special. Great Video & Research once again, love your Channel ( although I was only a sprinter & jumper in my day 🤗)
Ngl
I don’t get the hype over American HS athletes.
Im in my second last year of English secondary school (equatable to High school)
I run a 3:50 1500m so I have a year to take off around 6 seconds to get my sub 4min mile before I leave what would he HS in America
I train with a guy who won National 800m who does 1:50
And has a 3:44 1500 so is sub 4 in essence.
And yet I’m only around top 25 in the U.K., is the US just much weaker per person at middle distance
Or am I suffering from bias as I’m surrounded by incredibly fast people?
It’s not impossible to compare the two! Ryan is a far superior athlete! I would estimate if Ryan was running on the tracks today it worth at least a second a lap and if had the lighter spikes and better nutrition who knows.
In my mind Ryun (not Ryan) will always be #1.
If you look outside the US, Jakob Ingebrigsten is likely the all-time #1 IMO.
Ryun (let’s spell his name correctly!) was not just the best high school runner ever, he’s the best high school ANYTHING ever. He ran multiple sub four minute miles while in high school including in a state meet, on a cinder track, obviously running by himself. He ran under four minutes as a junior in high school. He made the freaking Olympic team when he was 17!! He was a household name in the United States as a teenage runner, which is simply unheard of.
@@jefffawcett I couldn't agree more. Also, as a high schooler in 1965, Ryun ran 3:55.3, within 1.7 seconds of the world record. No other high school miler has come anywhere near the world record. By comparison, Alan Webb ran 3:53.43. Faster than Ryun, but 10.3 seconds slower than the world record of 3:43.13 at the time. A great effort, but not even close to Ryun's achievement.
@@rodjohnson2632 El G's World Record for the Mile was done with the help of EPO, HGH, and Testosterone and that's why 25 years later it still has not been broken. There's no doubt that Hobbs Kessler's National High School Record of 3:34 for the 1,500 meters, which is almost 5 seconds faster than Jim Ryun's High School best of 3:39 is a superior time, even when you figure the running shoes, faster tracks,nutrition and training. Kessler smashed Webb's 1500 meter H.S. time of 3:38 by 4 seconds.
Hobbs also hold the H.S Record for the Indoor Mile with a 3:57. Hobb's 1500 meter time last year in HS was faster than the NCAA Outdoor 1500 meter record. Hobbs was also ran a 8:39/ 2 mile time as well as an 1:47 / 800 meter relay leg in H.S.
I usually watch your videos with my 2 year old daughter because she LOVES running and to run fast but I fucks with your channel because you NEVER talk shit about how runners suck or they are overrated or overhyped, it's all love from you to everyone in the sport. One of the only sports channels on youtube where that happens.
Dathan graduated from Rockford High School. I went there and got a track scholarship due to our school being one of the most known D1 high schools in MI. Good to see him getting mentioned and seeing his extremely old R uniforms. He’s still well-known in the area. The one year I ran CC (2013ish), I got to meet him on my birthday. Great man and doesn’t act like he’s “well-known”.
Incredible athletes you cover. Keep it up!
As a runner from Michigan as well Dathan’s accomplishments are beyond legendary. In another video it’s mentioned that no one’s gotten closer than 37 seconds I think to the national record he set on the same MIS speedway course. And of course he ran away in winning the Foot Locker “national championships” from the likes of Alan Webb and Ryan Hall.
Brilliant upload. I hadn't heard of him, as I'm from the UK. Really appreciate this. Bless up bro 👊
Yup, as mentioned, let's see how he does in the 2022 Outdoor Season before ranking. PBs incoming!
It should be noted that Colin did lose to Cade Flatt at new balance nationals indoor. To be fair I’m pretty confident that was Flatt’s first race and was fresh while Colin had run the 4xmile the night before.
Just amazing how fast high school runners are today. I ran in the 70s, when Ryun and Prefontaine were the legends.
And Ryun & Pre with today's training, running shoes and super-fast-tracks, would've run much faster than today's H.S. runners. Jim Ryun would've run 3:48 mile, 1:45/800m
and 8:25/2 mile. Pre would've run an 8:18/2 mile & 13:20/ 5K and Lindgren would've run an 8:15/ 2mile & a 13:15/5K & a 27:55/10K in H.S.
Only Hobbs Kessler & Alan Webb would've been competitive against Jim Ryun in the mile in H.S.
They lapped every team twice, and the team in last 3 times. I was there it was so hype
Setting the American record in the mile, missing the world record by less than two seconds, AND beating the Olympic champion in the process makes Jim Ryun the GOAT high school distance runner of all time. No one else is even close.
Agreed.
That is a big fat lie. It makes Ryun the greatest high school athlete of all time (and that is exactly what SI voted him)...
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 read above it says the GOAT high school distance runner
Agreed. Ryun would've made the 1964 Olympic final (1500) had he not contracted a flu bug. He was 17!! The fact that he qualified for the US Olympic team against the best milers in America is just mind boggling. Then the following yr as HS Sr. He was ranked in the world top 5.
Agreed. Plus, the tracks that he was racing on!
I’ve never heard of this kid before these videos. Hopefully he continues to dominate the competition on the world stage.
He and the whole Newbury Park HS team have been pulverizing HS distance running for the last 2 years. Twins Lex and Leo Young from the same team are nearly as good as Colin, and Colin's younger brother nearly beat him in the 880, running in the high 1:40's, and is probably only 4 or 5 seconds back in the mile. That whole team is scary fast.
I think my top 5 all time currently would be:
1. Jim Ryun
2. Alan Webb
3. German Fernandez
4. Hobbs Kessler
5. Colin Sahlman
I see no lies
Ryun was a monster
German Fernandez is a robot. He went to. School with my niece. I watched him blow away everyone in 800 , 1600 and 3200. At state he lapped everyone in the race. He was a beast!
This is the right list
honestly, i would put colin above hobbs...
Idk why youtube recomended this channel to me, BUT i watch every video.. I suddenly love T&F.
Well, I like numbers and comparing numbers and records and stuff.. I hope to be alive when the regular 2h-Marathon will be achieved.
If we think Colin is gonna be one of the greatest then you gotta wait for Lex and Leo Young. They’re running times pretty close to them and they’re still a year younger, hell, Lex is probably gonna break 4 this outdoor. and they just turned 17 like a month ago
If Sahlman had an unbelievable Sr. Track campaign I can see him moving up to 4 or 5 HS alltime. Maybe 3? Ryun & Lingren are almost impossible to surpass. They were so unbelievably talented at age 17-18 I just can't see them not be 1& 2 respectively. GOATS for sure.
Salman's brother is another Beast. Rare history in the making with "brother duos"...
Looks like running is freedom and effortless for Him incredible ❤️🇺🇸
Never had the pleasure of getting to know young future stars so much. This channel is in my top 5 subs of over 400 channels. Probs top 3 tbh. 👌🏼
Also, could you keep us posted ( or maybe do a vid?) on his younger brother Aaron? Looks like he might be beating his older bother soon? 👍🏼
Really is the best channel of track and field.
Your top 10 list was pretty on point but who to drop now that Colin is top of the heap
This youngster has an engine for a heart. That is very good performance for some so young. Give it some time before you place him on the list of all time high school greats.
I really thought he wouldn’t be able to touch Webb’s outdoor record but with his last two 800s showing that speed I really can’t put a cap on him
The GOAT in Track and Field Videos.
German Fernandez is the greatest high school distance runner of all time; raw talent without a great coaching staff (program).
I was a few time all American in D2 and this kid would have kicked my ass in everything haha. I love these videos, thankful to have an insightful UA-camr doing great research and asking awesome questions. Keep going!
Congrats on your successes! Your achievements aren't insignificant, even if you think guy kick your butt!
Can you give any training tips for my upcoming HS Freshman? He's fast, in our area (not crazy fast tho), but mostly uncoached & keeps getting shin splints. Someone said he's running too much & over-training, but he probably couldn't have won conference & regionals (8th grade) (no state comp for MS) & finished 7th at Eastbay/Footlocker Midwest Regionals (MS division), & qualified for Indoor Nationals if he hadn't been "over-training". He usually just runs 7-10 miles daily, sometimes in 2-a-days (5 miles morning & night). He doesn't have a coach. Any advice to train/improve/avoid further injury, Keegan?
@@trishadodd9695 Make sure he is eating properly and getting adequate nutrition
Fortunately for Eric Holt, he’s already done sub 4 indoors and outdoors before. Also I am excited for the next generation of college athletes, who may bring us a sub 3:50 indoor mile before turning pro.
The womens 1500 WR is 3:50
@@waterproof4403 I was talking about men
Everyone's turning Pro, even Hobbs Kessler who ran 3:34/ 1500 meters to set the H.S record last spring, turned Pro.
Yeah, I personally think Colin is a solid 4 on that list, since he is so versatile. I also think Nico could've been on the list if he hadn't lost a year to Covid.
Uh woah, I think we need to talk about his YOUNGER brother running a 1:48 😱 Jeeeeeezzz
Love your channel bro 👍🏼
Jim Ryun definitely deserves the #1 spot, but I think Colin Sahlman comes in at #2
But only counting Americans
@@trinidadrodriquez876 true, I think going outside the USA the best youth athlete ever would probably be Jacob Kiplimo, he was hitting ridiculous times at 15 and qualified for the Olympics even younger than Jim Ryun
@@aaronjenkins6048 yeah also 3 kids from Europe
Ryan running those times on dirt track is the mic drop. I knocked something like 6 or 7 seconds off my mile PR first time on modern track surface.
He's got a long way to go. There have been many great potentials. We shall see...
I personally think Dathan is the best HS cross country runner ever. Because he ran his 14:10 at MIS, a much slower course, and also because he was a much faster 5K runner than any of his peers, oppose to Colin who was challenged by a few other people in the Nation.
That being said he, is much better in track comparatively, I think, as an overall Track runner he is top 5 right with Hobbs except he favors more in the 2 and Hobbs in the shorter events
The new hs 5000m rec of 13:25.86 is inanse its an average of 8:35 3200
Did u see Dalia Frías 4:35 first race of the season? That was insane also CA state record. You should make a vid on that I think she will break the national record soon.
Depends on his summer season, he can go from 2nd to 7th depending on his performances i guess
Wow. Great video!
Hey Andrew, when are you doing to a video on the teenager Nicholas Griggs from Ireland who has very recently broken the European Under-20 indoor mile record, clocking a magnificent 3:56.40, less than three months after turning 17!
Hobbs Kessler ran a 3:34 for the 1500 meters & a 1:47 for the 800 meters at 17 years of age.
Hi @@richardmilliken8705 bit of a silly comment as I'm not saying he is is best of all time. Plus you are not comparing like for like, if we were then Hobbs Kessler's best indoor mile time is 3.57.10 which he did aged 18y 10m vs Nicholas Griggs 3.56.40 ages 17y 3m. So again, not sure why he doesn't deserve his own video in the future
@@aidanorourke1632 Hobbs Kessler 17yr 10mth at 3:57/ indoor mile and 18yr 2mth 3:34/ 1500m. Kessler was a World Ranked Rock Climber before he started training seriously at 16. I would give Griggs the edge over Colin Sahlman, as he is 14months younger. Your man deserves his own video.
Hi@@richardmilliken8705 at 16 this guy Nick Griggs was beating the best runners in Europe in the u20 championship who were all about 3 years older than him and running a final lap in 55 seconds. Agreed he should have his own video and when you say that you would give him "the edge" over Colin there is no argument at all. When Colin was aged 17 he was running 3,000m in 8m 34.68s and 5km in 14m 27s Nick at the same same was doing 3,000m in 7m 57s and 5k in 14m 15s so he is way ahead if we are comparing like for like and all of Nick's PBs today even are better than Colin's who is 14 months older. Looking forward to the video on him Andrew!
@@aidanorourke1632 Colin ran the 3K in 7:56.97, and the 3200m in 8:43 at 17 years of age and he won & ran the National High School XC 5K Championships in 14:03. The indoor mile is the only distance that Griggs has run faster than Colin. Grigg's 14:15.98
in the 5K on a track is nothing to write home about. I don't see Griggs coming close to Rupp's National H.S. 5K record of 13:37. Only time will tell, what kind of improvements both of these runners can.
Jakob and the East Africans have produced much faster times on the track than any American or Ireland H.S. Athletes. I believe that Kipchoge ran the 5K in 12:50 at the age of 18.
I dont care about high-school running or any running but I just watched this whole video
The running stick! He has no body! Amazing!
It will be interesting to see what his future as a world class athlete holds. There have been so many high school wonders that under perform after that. I ran against the likes of Rudy Chapa and Carey Pinkowski back in the late 70's. Both top rated high schoolers and teammates at that time. Not that they didn't perform extremely well at University of Oregon and Villanova they never really made it to the world class level. For Chapa is was an injury that ended his career. I was at UofO when he attempted his failed comeback. It was sad to witness. Salazar was there and Pinkowski showed up as well. Last I heard Pinky was the Director of the Chicago Marathon.
Would be great to see a video about the best prep-aged performances globally! Amos’ 1:41.73 and some of Jakob’s performances come to mind.
Erriyon Knighton.
Sydney McLaughlin
Hobbs Kessler
Mondo Duplantis
All yes
I'd say that based on his current times, dominance against his peers and fairly favorable comparison against other greats, he's easily top 5 with a strong case for top 3. If he continues his strong form, I think he's capable of being #1 but we'll see where his times go.
Man I'd love to see Sahlman vs Will Sumner in the 800m at the end of the outdoor season
Probably sumner bc sprinter 800m runners typically flourish in outdoor bc their speed endurance is built to run (in his case) 52,54 splits. I’m not sure Colin has the speed to run a race against him going out so fast but hey who knows
Probably sumner bc sprinter 800m runners typically flourish in outdoor bc their speed endurance is built to run (in his case) 52,54 splits. I’m not sure Colin has the speed to run a race against him going out so fast but hey who knows
Sumner will break Granville’s record if he stays healthy, Colin cannot touch his speed
Great video. He evidently has the talent, now we need to see if he has the temperament to sustain it. I hope he doesn't prove to be a 'fizzler'! I've seen so many promising young athletes just fizzle out when they got the big time.
Anxiously waiting on the Yulimar Rojas' video
The Newberry Phenomenon is these great runners all come from two families which obviously have some pretty fantastic genetics. The moms and dads must have been great athletes. It is no difference the Mondo Duplantis, the world record holder in the pole vault. His dad was a world class pole vaulter and his mom was a world class Heptathlete.
Not to mention great year round weather and you have the San Monica mountains right there for your hill work.
Meanwhile on a small island just north west of Europe a 17 year old kid just ran a 3:56 indoor mile.
Sheesh
What island?
@@kenbrandon4554 Ireland 😂
WESTERN EDGE OF EUROPE
@@patlevv7382 Yes and No. I, like you perhaps, am qualified to say that.
Depends on the distance, but he's definitely "in the running." (I'll see myself out.)
The only thing I could think of when he beat is younger brother in the 800 was how many times since they were little they. Raced each other
Never, ever remove Ryun from the GOAT in high school. There is no comparison. He was so all alone in time!!
See the comment below about Colin having teammates so close. Ryun had none...and no rabbits....and dirt track.... and old shoes.... normal high school coach (not mega coaches of today).
Sahlman is the GOAT and will break records that have been professionally unbroken for decades.
Hic old is he ?
@@KevinLeSionnais 18
Let's take it 1 step at a time. I don't see him breaking Hobbs Kessler's High School Record in the 1,500m which is 3:34 and Rupp's National H.S. record for the 5K is 13:37.
Rudy Chapa's National H.S. Record for the 10K is 28:32. And Mike Granville's National H.S. Record for the 800M is 1:46.
Now that Colin is at NAU we can see that he still needs some serious development. On NAU which just accomplished the NCAA championship Colin was 6th or 7th man on the team. He is still a freshman and has only been through the cross country season. I am looking forward to what will happen next year after Lex and Leo arrive at Stanford and Aaron is added to NAU.
Wow! These guys are truly amazing, and the fact that Sahlman has several teammates very close to him in their performance tells me they must have some fantastic coaching, and so there's one big Q: What are their training methods?
I went to school in the same district and we had similar training plans, mostly just consistency really and icing and doing everything possible to eat well and maintain that perfect shape from the start to end of the season
@@Anthonylollz For sure we can say that Colin has extraordinary talent, genetics, if he indeed follows the same training and diet plans as his team-mates, but the fact that those team-mates aren't that far off from him in performance still suggests that their training is a big factor...Sure would like to have more details on that.
I hate to mention it but PED's come to mind whenever I see something like this. Okay, so when one or even two individuals from the same team perform at this level over the course of many years I can easily accept that. But when I see year over year domination and multiple teammates performing at this level year after year it does beg the question.
@@kenhalal375 Yes, that thought does come to mind. I wonder how tight is the testing for that at high school level, and I'd guess there might not even be any. We'll see how these athletes do as time goes on if they continue to compete. Meanwhile, I'd still like to know more about their training too...Is it something unique that might explain their success?
What do sprinters eat before a race ?
Nothing, They Fast !
I ran the 200 once in high school just to grab the points when nobody else was lining up. I almost threw up at the end. These runners are amazing.
Wish the UK was like this mind so much envy for USA track Athetics
Okay, I'll get on this hype train. Let's ride!
TRP - nit pick #1: Eric Holt did not "miss going under 4 minutes by 1/1,000 th of a second". He missed *going* *under* by *2* thousandths. Nit pick #2: because USATF and World Athletics still do not recognize XC certified courses, and because a variety of methods are used to measure XC 5Ks, there is little consistency in "5K" XC courses. This throws some shade on XC records at any particular distance. There is at least one XC 5K that has been measured with a steel tape, which would definitely be accurate IF proper measuring protocols were strictly adhered to.
Then, "of course", elevation profiles vary hugely between courses. It is interesting but not necessarily valid that any 5K XC performance can be compared to another on a different course.
Thanks for the great video.
I met this guy last week, cool dude!
I say 2. But we need to wait and see how he does in the track season.
Shawnee mission south high school…1970s with Steiner, Smith and more were great.
Inasmuch as I admire the legendary Steve Prefontaine, there is no question that Sahlman’s resume dwarfs that of Prefontaine. Sahlman’s pace in the 3200 beats Prefontaine’s pace for his 2 mile record. Prefontaine did run a 13:52 in the 5k on the track, which is astounding, but Sahlman’s 14:03 5k national record in XC is clearly a better mark.
(That said, Prefontaine, as a high schooler Prefontaine had essentially no competition, no elite coaching, no elite training staff, and ran on cinder tracks in rural Oregon in the 1960’s… but we’re not talking about how great Prefontaine could have been if he were in high school today, we’re talking about his actual achievements as much as they could be compared).
I can’t wait to see what Sahlman and his Newbury Park teammates do this outdoor season.
Why are you comparing a kid who ran in the 60s to a kid who is running today.
Why don't you compare Sahlman to international teenagers? Is it because he won't measure up?
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 this is not my comparison, this discussion is about who would be in the top ten best high schoolers in history. The list is all teens from the USA. There is no 1:1 comparison between any two runners, even those who have competed against each other.
@@jeffreycarman2185 Let's take it 1 step at a time. Hobbs Kessler set the H.S. Record for the 1500m last year with a 3:34 which smashed Webb's record of 3:38 for HS. And Lukas Verzbicas's H.S Record for the 2 mile is 8:29. Galen Rupp's H.S. Record for the 5K is 13:37. And Rudy Chapa's H.S. Record for the 10K is 28:32. And Mike Granville's H.S.Record for the 800m is 1:46.
Better update your stats...Gary Martin, Archbishop Wood High School 3:57.98 in the 1 Mile!!! Now there's 14 high schoolers all time sub 4 minutes. And he's the first in PA!
Arguably he should be in the Top 10. But factoring in that he has teammates pushing him all the time which most athletes never have and certainly the people in the top 10 list. Then factor in the new super shoes that have been supplying the world with so many faster times they should be outlawed. And of course the advances in technology with track surfaces and such and maybe he cracks the top 12 realistically compared to that group. Btw I was an editor for the first NXN for Nike and was a historian for years.
Tough to be that Appleford fella, top of the team elite at any other school and at Newbury Park he’s the guy that sandbagged the team record
Rheinhardt Harrison ran an indoor 1,000m in 2:22 in January of this year, which works out to around 57 seconds per 400m, and then ran his first mile race in February 2022 at 4:01.15. I don't know why Harrison wouldn't be somewhere in this discussion. Anyway, A race between Sahlman and Harrison would be one for the ages. Hopefully it'll happen this year.
@@davidp5492 Based on what? I gave you FACTS, and you responded with literally none in return. Want more? Harrison did a workout of 3 x 1 mile repeats at 4:18, 4:14, and 4:07, followed by 3 x 400m at 54 for all three... This was not meant as a slight on Sahlman. Sahlman may well be better, but you can't just automatically ignore Harrison.
After this track season he’ll be number 1. Also hope he comes to Oregon
He has already committed to going to NAU this fall to join former Newbury Park High team mate Nico Young.
1. Gerry Lindgren
2. Jim Ryun
3. Dathan Ritzenhein
4. Lukas Verzbicas
5. Alan Webb
6. German Fernandez
7. Craig Virgin
8. Colin Sahlman
9. Drew Hunter
10. Jeff Nelson
Lindgren, Pre, Hulst, Virgin, Ritz, Verzbiscas are the top 6 greatest H.S. XC
If you took Ryan and put him with today's runners....HE WOULD ABSOLUTELY destroy the competition. With today's training and technology Colin would always be in his rear view mirror. That comparison isn't even close.... Ryan would destroy Colin all week and twice on Saturday invitationals. Ryan by far is the biggest freak out of high-school to walk these United States.
Great runner! Ryun was on another level though
Ryun was from my era. I was not even close to any of them. Considering the advances in equipment, training, nutrition, surfaces, etc. Ryun might still be at the top. Always interesting to compare different eras or generations. Debate will continue I'm sure.
Need a Gary Martin video.
Amazing.
Newbury park has proven to be the goats. Not by having just one goat but the whole team loaded with goat talent. Colin graduated but his brother and the twins have not. Factor in a short season and you could argue how talented Nico really was then and now. My point is the athletes have to run the courses but it takes the right culture and hats off to brosnen for creating the vision and having the tools for these kids to develop so well. No doubt in my mind that this was the kids buying into great coach. His wife is still there and will see how it goes after this next group graduates.
Colin is Like 2 or 3 all Time for high school Runners.. He’s Something Else I Know he’ll make the Olympics one day he looks really Disciplined and From his interviews he’s a Really Humble Guy 😌 but he did get robbed of his Junior year cross country season and most of the track season last year cause of the pandemic 😕
For a bit more accuracy this has to await the end of his 2022 outdoor season.
so much for this thought. Abel just crushed him by 5.7 seconds.
Seems like he should be solidly in the top 5.
goat of highschool running imo
Can’t place him yet, he is not done!
eyeing him
This school sounds a lot like the Joe Newton York HS dynasty in Illinois. I have not followed it for years, but as I recall most all of their stand out runners were burned out by the time they got to college.
Still waiting on the video for Benjamin Azamati. You know the guy with a time faster than boling.
Gary Martin just ran a 3:57 in the Philadelphia Catholic league championships.
No2 on the list - without doubt
While all these young men should be acknowledged for their talent as high school runners that does not bode well for what is the ultimate goal. Going to and winning an Olympic or World Championship. Except for Jim Ryun and Galen Rupp all of these remarkable athletes display the short time as a top athlete as did all the previous athletes on your list. The demands of the sport are such that a top-level career longer than 4-5 years is the exception not the rule. So admire them for what they are now. Everything else is a bonus.
What about Drew Hunter - guy was a beast fro everything from the 800m (1:48) to sub 4 mi to absolutely dominating at footlocker nationals for XC
please look into Carly Wilkes from Virginia. she just committed to a D1 running college and in any event over the 800 she has dominated since freshman year. recently attended the new balance track meet and ran a 16:48 in the 5k. it would be really cool for you to look into it
The clock doesn't lie. He ranks where ever the clock puts him. If he gets better then he moves up to where his best time ranks him.
Only in the US are they still running in miles and 1600m 3200m? the rest of world went metric 50 years ago.
If there is anyone who can possibly break Daniel Komen records, I highly think it's this👆 young man.
He is obviously very strong for his age, but how does he compare to Jakob's times at the same age? Is he actually well in front?
1500 times
14 3:48.37 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 30 Jul 15
15 3:42.44 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 9 Jun 16
16 3:39.92 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stockholm 18 Jun 17
17 3:31.18 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 20 Jul 18
18 3:30.16 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Lausanne 5 Jul 19
19 3:28.68 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Monaco 14 Aug 20
1 Mile
16 3:56.29 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Oslo 15 Jun 17
17 3:52.28 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Eugene OR 26 May 18
18 3:51.30 Jakob Ingebrigtsen NOR 19 Sep 00 Stanford CA 30 Jun 19
Sundown track series footage is pretty buns