This is Why Nobody is Playing Halo Infinite
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2023
- Hands down the worst thing about Halo Infinite and leads me to stop playing and touch grass or go to Halo MCC
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a pre game lobby and veto system would also solve this issue but we know that's never happening
Its crazy to think that we havent had a veto/vote system since MCCs original disaster launch nearly 10 years ago (god just saying that makes me feel old).
I bet they would say UI issue or something stupid over not implementing it.
Fire 343
Game is dead, just play MCC...
Yeah, saying this for years now...
Halo reach had so many awesome community features and way better Customizing, especially because nothing was locked behind a pay wall but grind wall. And they didn't release half baked cores without any stuff to customizer them, yes I am looking at you crysis and WW2 cores!!!!
The idea of having a feature from a decade ago is inconceivable to 343
I feel better playing Halo CE over Halo Infinite, real talk.
One feels like a chill, atmospheric Halo game and the other one feels like twitchy COD Halo with corny robots filling every moment with cringe dialogue.
I feel better not playing than playing.
Probably because aiming doesn't feel like shit in CE. No amount of content or freedom of choice will help infinite when the aiming itself feels like garbage.
Halo Infinite is rotten to the core. Even if they try as hard as they can to make improvements, a house built on sand cannot stand.
Halo Infinite is rotten to the core. Even if they try as hard as they can to make improvements, a house built on sand cannot stand.
COD’s playlist selector is so necessary and desired here. For as broken as that game is, I can play the modes that I want, as much as I want!
Now it’s a cycle of “we can’t add it because of the population” and then “more people leave because they can’t play what they want”
And because of that 2/3 of CoDs game modes are dead and unplayable. It's just the same game over and over with no variety outside of shoot and run. People want Halo to be Halo but want it to implement CoD features so fast without realizing who the main player base is (and surprise it's not people in the UA-cam comments)
The worst part about this is they are capable of making a player first system. The playlist slector in MCC is a pretty good system, and I think I know why that isn't in Infinite. I think the reason this is randomized is because people would grind challeges fairly easy and 343 wouldn't make any money off those stupid challenge swaps.
True reason is the player base is sooo small they cant have everyone only playin swat and 2 other types. They have to create the illusion of a lot of players/faster lobby searches
The changes aren't even communicated in any way unless you go out of your way to check. the average player just hits play on quickplay and then wonders why the mode they played last week that they like is not coming up anymore. always confusing why 343 makes these decisions when they have blueprints like MCC or OG reach to work from, just bring back the OG reach voting/challenge systems.
I'm sure some turbo virgin nerd at 343 has crunched the numbers and found out they make 3% more revenue this way though
facts king
Veto might be better than voting cause folks might keep voting for the same shit
@@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 if most people wanna play it then they should get to.
if it becomes a noticeable problem then 343 should use that data and change playlists so everyone can find what they want easier.
You underestimate the intelligence of the majority of Halo players
@@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903 🤓
It’s like 343 doesn’t want me to play their game 😂😭
they dont
Baffling that people still play this after season 2
Its crazy too how people still play shitty Fortnite too or even people playing their favorite classic games like Pokemon or Pacman or Sonic Or Mario or Yugioh or digimon! 🤯🤯😱😱😱
I just want slayer 24/7 playlist. Its rare to see people play the objective.
Is there no Team Slayer playlist?
@@JawnCena-dn7jc only unranked
If people aren't playing the obj in ranked either you're in low lobbies or they're all frying and expecting you to be the obj guy
Yes! Rankd Team Slayer.. nothin else in it.. Back in the day, you would venture out into other things willingly when this was your main go to.. ya needed the break. It worked when the main scene was this casual competitive Team Slayer Rank, FFA Slayer Rank, Team Doubles Slayer Rank, Big Team Slayer Rank.. Theses were everyones main grind, the itch that brough you back, and what help add the legitimacy needed lol.
It's crazy to me how many of the multiplayer features they perfected in MCC and then completely abandoned them for Halo Infinite.
Maybe if they gave players a choice, they could get a better view of what works and what doesn’t. Then changes could be made improve the game modes that get the lower play counts. It must be tiring to see your predecessors games get played more and enjoyed more than your new stuff.
Because the old stuff is actually fun 👍
@@Fire4ward Not to say it didn’t have issues, but it was small comparatively to the good.
You guys remember the days when we could play the game modes we wanted to play. Halo 3…we didn’t know what we had until it was gone.
I remember that back in Halo 2...
Honestly, I forgot this embarrassment of a game was still up and running. Who the hell is still putting themselves through this dumpster fire?
This is miles better than Halo 4 and Halo 5 multiplayer
It amazes me how many people still defend this game. It is fucking mind boggling.
@@rm25088 It's truly bizarre behavior. The only explanation I can come up with is that the people still defending this game, or 343 at all, have some strange form of stockholm syndrome.
The worst Halo Infinite experience I had was playing the first season 3 featured playlist, got 4 BTB escalation slayers in a row, then joined quickplay in an attempt to avoid it, only to get escalation slayer 3 more times.
For the love of god they have to stop adding party modes to standard playlists.
Quick play is specifically made to have everymode that doesn’t have its on playlist☠️
@@StonyCarrot1001 The issue is that there is no place for semi-casual modes. This is why we are vouching for a mode select.
Slayer
Flag
Stronghold
King of the hill
These are all standard playlists in quickplay -- but things get weird when you put Escalation Slayer in the mix. That mode should belong in a social playlist as it simply didn't fit within those aforementioned modes.
When I tried season 3 I swear the only thing I played was escalation slayer lmao
Since a few weeks... I log into halo infinite, look what's going on, try to play a game, suffering due to one of its bugs of an endless list then turning it off again. Sometimes don't even start a game. I join the menu and immediately close the game again because I'm tired before I started searching a game.
Get better wifi 🤷♂️ i find games every min and every night 🤷♂️
@@ChadsYTLife_ it’s not that, the game constantly crashes, and the fps issues are still there
They do it so when they fix it, ppl say oh 343 have fixed the problem let's pat them on the back and praise them and say "oh 343 are not bad see they've fixed it"......come on its the oldest trick in gaming keeps the fan bois and content makers ticking over
Halo infinite was the one game I was looking forward too and it sucked so bad I barely even play games anymore. I went out more got a gf and I’m about to graduate college now and I have a job lined up 343 fucked up so bad they changed me from a true gamer to a normal GUY
Lol here's me, can't be asked to get a GF, can't be asked to find a Job and can't be asked to play Games.
Damn bro want a birthday cake or something? 🎂
Congrats. That's what really matters in life. I wish I could do the same 😂.
True reason is the player base is sooo small they cant have everyone only playin swat and 2 other types. They have to create the illusion of a lot of players/faster lobby searches
An mcc type of matchmaking system could be great but because the population is too low it will only increase wait times
Moral of the story. Release a complete game day 1 or get updates out monthly...
Every time I see you Boys dropping bombs on Infinite, I tune in and end up in total amazement at just how badly 343 continues to fuck this franchise. Keep er up boys!
the halo 2 graphics and gameplay looked better than infinites as it transitioned wtf
Says it all really
The Bungie Halos felt alien and atmospheric. Infinite looks like a generic shooter in the background of a film
Halo Infinite is basically a Taco Bell bathroom. ... just a propetual shit machine ..and once in a while they'll clean it up, but then another bigger smellier shit has taken its place
I got Tac Slayer CTF on the new map with the hallways. I swear I wanted to just uninstall lmao. Nobody could score
prob worst map in the game
They need to fix stockpile, worst game mode in the game
What really sucks is with some tweaks it COULD be actually a pretty fun mode. The execution though has blown since launch and they have done NOTHING to tweak or fix it.
@@MasonAveKid437 Yeah, just make it like Reach's version of stockpile.
I hate this system so much. Sure it sucks that there might be a game mode that no one likes, but you can’t FORCE people to play it. It’s so crazy that these developers look at this and think “players are just going to have to suck it up” and what makes it worse is that they perfected it, they innovated the match composer, leading the industry in player choice, but they just went “nah, bro, trust me, you want challenges and random game modes”
How about I just quit and play an entirely different game, dude.
You would think 3shit3 would be trying everything in their power to bring people back so they would be trying to make people happy. But, it seems like the complete opposite.
ya PeeWhorePee is dumb and stupid and I hope they go to heck
Wow that new leadership sure is kicking in fast and well 🤣 🤣
One of the reasons I quit Infinite. The multiplayer experience was dogshit then, and apparently still is dogshit now. How?
I just watched the 4 h Xbox documentary over the last few days and it's honestly crazy Microsoft doesn't give Halo to another studio. Halo is VITAL for the success of Xbox.
This is why simple is better. OG Halo all the way thru Reach had a simple matchmaking system with no BS involved. Matchmaking that worked and a player base that stayed consistent. Why? Because Bungie Halo rocked. They knew what we wanted and delivered. 343 at this point seems to literally want to kill their own game. And it's working.
They don't want to kill their own game, they want to kill Halo
People quitting games is a WAY bigger problem than the playlists. I hate assholes who quit early.
It’s pretty funny looking at all the content coming to mw2 season 3 2 months after season 2
And and then comparing that to infinite’s season 3 content that came 10 months after season 2.
It’s so fucked just seeing the night and day difference between a dev that is actually capable of providing an actual live service and one that can’t.
Halo 3 was like this. But it had vetoing
It’s honestly so fuckin shitty how they handle this game. This season was NOT a comeback no matter how people try to spin it
"And any developer should KNOW that system is terrible."
1000% agreed.
Especially with 20 years of history and metrics of what worked previously. It seems like in an attempt to mitigate the long-term drop-off that naturally happens in a lot of games, they also completely screwed the short term. It's so gross/wrong.
I stopped playing because of THIS PROBLEM! I hate that I can’t have fun and play what I want!
I wanted to show my friend the new map and we couldnt see it because every game was the old maps
I'm in luck because I only play Team Snipers!
Samee! So relieved they put that playlist back in permanently.
at this point I've found the best way to deal with HI is just to play other stuff and keep your expectations low - I'll probably just wait for the next game at this point and even then I'm gonna go in super sceptical
for me it's the new player base 343 aims for that ruins it all for me. They always settle for less, and if you critic it prepare for them defending it to the skin of their teeth. And if a new season is to release they loop everything they say and go back to fantasizing that everything will be amazing
I'm a diehard Infinite player and I have to agree. It does feel like a lottery when hoping to get the game mode you want 😀
bungie COME BACK DAMN
i hate not being able to play the type i want and map i want ... it's so annoying
indeed.
Absolutely psychotic to have Escalation Slayer (a party game) in the quick-play mode .
While it's there , there's no playlist for casual slayer/objective ?
They're so scared of Halo Infinite's low player count being exposed.
Skill-Based Matchmaking Cesspool. 343 also lied about removing MMR from Ranked and having Ranked entirely based on CSR. 343 continues to force All players under a totalitarian Digital Dictatorship and also forcing 50% win rates. How do you force 50% win rates and guarantee players are going to lose 50% of the time? You pair them against other players who are literally themselves. The Same KD, the same Win-to-loss, shot accuracy, etc
They need the filter system, screw the veto system. I always hated it, people would only pick the 'popular' maps on repeat.
Bro ranked sucks absolute rn. Can’t get a single EU server
It's astounding how MCC is almost universally praised by the community for it's matchmaking and multiplayer systems. Before Infinite, I was positive that MCC was a testbed for everything coming. Customization, free battle pass, custom made matchmaking, etc. And we literally got NONE of it.
343 Industries!
Please listen to the guys!!!!
So many points they make reflect the views of your fans!
Halo Infinite is rotten to the core. Even if they try as hard as they can to make improvements, a house built on sand cannot stand.
How about 343 just takes 343 steps away from halo and let somebody else do it like id software.
Or The coalition
I hate this game, but I hate 343 more.
i re-installed the game last night and thought i would watch some vids to see if my decision was a good one, watched this vid and uninstalled before i ever bothered trying, thanks for saving me some time
i did the same it somehow feels worse than it did around launch
A Halo MCC match filter > than a veto system in my opinion. In a veto sysytem there will always be some people that are going to be unhappy, because their taste differs from the rest of the lobby and the map/gamemode they want to play doesnt get voted. This problem doesnt exist with a mcc match filter
It does technically exist though, when it constantly picks your least favorite maps out of the pool that’s given to you. I just don’t understand why we can’t have both systems combined together to be honest. Would be nice to be able to queue for BTB and not get Heavies on Avalanche, Territories on Highlands or some shitty forge map in the canyon part of Forge World every single time.
@@ColonelFatass3 for me, getting the right gamemode is more important than getting the right map. But i agree, a combination of both systems would be even better
Nothing is going good in Halo, and Star Wars is falling apart again great! 🙁
Modern gaming is just monetized crap anymore so disappointing how it's turning out infinite was oversold and under delivered
I think another awful feature they’ve doubled down on so hard has been the shop. I know people keep talking about it but my god the shop prices have just gotten worse. So many things that are just locked behind a paywall. Last week they had THE Halo CE Mark V for the Mark VII Armor Core, in the shop, in a bundle, for $22. The week before, it was the Marathon Helmet. Y’know, MARATHON, THE GAME BUNGIE MADE BEFORE HALO? The Marathon Helmet that was also on Halo 3, no extra costs, you could unlock it right out of the box, day one, no issue. They need to stop forcing people to pay for bundles to get the shit they want. If you want to make us pay for armor, the least you could do is let us get individual shit so I don’t pay $10-$20 for an armor bundle that has one piece I’m gonna use.
Halo worked when the main scene was this casual competitive Team Slayer Rank, FFA Slayer Rank, Team Doubles Slayer Rank, Big Team Slayer Rank.. emphasize on the SLAYER!!!!! These were everyones main grind, the itch that brough you back, and help add the schoolyard legitimacy needed lol. it mattered culturally at the time what your Halo Team Slayer Rank was amongst friends circles lol idk. They took all those playlists away in Halo Infinite and are forcing gameplay/contracts that force players away from earning medals and what is Awesome about Halo, which was the sandbox competitive nature of it. They continue to blow it and could flip the switch over night imo.
I think the idea of it is they want people to play the game. Not just slayer or just one mode because then it becomes repetitive and then also creates a lower player count anyway. I'm honestly surprised that this game isn't booming on twitch. Now, them changing swat to tactical slayer idek the idea behind that. It's like Walmart changing their name to something else.
Honestly, I'd be playing Infinite WAY more if it had MCC's system. I typically quit matchmaking because I'm sick of playing stuff I don't care to play.
Me too. I end up going back to MCC or a different game with better multiplayer selections.
What they should do is have the regular playlists named like normal (Team Slayer, BTB, SWAT) and THEN have a different playlist for said modes, variety SWAT, variety BTB and such for the dumbass shit that no one wants to play.
I still don't understand how they fuck up something so simple
Member when you’d get 3 options and a vote? Bungie members
5 steps forward and 30 leaps back.
Nobody is happy with this system. My personal thoughts are that I want quickplay to have literally everything to get the most variety, and people who want specific modes never get them. They need to just commit to one or the other for quickplay until they get match composer.
How is it in 2023 they have the default setting in the game for voice chat disabled and nobody knows that you can enable it so people with mics don’t even go in to fix the setttings BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE ENABLED BY DEFAULT !!!! I have played halo infinite for months and only ran into one teammate who was communicating through a mic. It’s sad honestly
No campaign dlc. No firefight. No new vehicles
They finally nail down the enemy a.i. and they don't have a firefight 🥲
I swear I can't find a single game on MCC the moment I mess with the filter settings. I end up turning all of them on just to be able to find a game.
I think MCC has a near-perfect system. I'd make one improvement - add in a quick play button similar to Infinite, but that randomly sorts you into *anything.* Give it two simple toggles - include/don't include BTB, and include/don't include firefight. Post-match, players can stay with their lobby or opt-out to go to a new one. If you stay, you and the rest of the lobby vote for what's next based on the lobby size. Being able to jump from BTB, to 4v4, to 8v8 fiesta and back in one playlist would be really cool and simple, and the MCC customization would still be an option for people who want to play specific things. This would also help all modes be autofilled by people using quick play. That would make MCC's matchmaking pretty much perfect in my eyes, and they should 100% do that to Infinite's quick play button too while adding in MCC's selection system.
Waiting to get into a game an then finally getting in; realizing it's not one you wanna play an then forced to watch the map walkthrough an team video
A veto system is the ideal middle-ground here. It makes no sense the decisions being made.
As much as I hate it when Halo takes ideas from COD I will say that COD at least let’s you go into a quick play menu and select which game modes you specifically wish to match make into.
Even MCC did this before Infinite.
I love playing in the BTB on the new desert mode... Until they change it.
Reason why nobody plays is because of the Fortnite earning system & the lack luster content that is being released too slowly. There are lots of other minor tweaks that I’m sure you have mentioned. All they had to do was what Bungie did.
I stopped when it was basically proven the matchmaking was EoMM. Haven't logged in since.
I don’t like how they keep rotating modes week by week, just keep everything
Going into it, I was expecting this video to be about the shop
Danta when are we going to teach Kyle how to read its becoming a problem
So, after all this time, the game is still not worth playing? The only reason i even consider installing infinite again is due to the MCC being so depopulated, that it takes ages to find lobbies some days, at least in Europe.
They could alternatively just add a vote/veto system and it would fix the entire problem.
Maybe that feature will be in beta next year. Lmao. Probably not.
If they change the lottery matchmaking, stockpile would probably die lol
You guys said it perfectly. They are making the player count lower by not having a matchmaking composer and instead having the shitty basic system they have and they are rationalizing that they need to have a short list of playlists because of playlist health. Back when the game launched and they actually had a healthy player base they were using this excuse for why we had Quick Play, Bot Bootcamp, BTB & Ranked as our only options for playlists. Remember how shit that was??? People were pissed there was no Team Slayer playlist. Junyszek tweeted out some shit about concerns about playlist health, but that they would make a Team Slayer playlist. They just make some of the most tone deaf and flat out dumb decisions over...and over....and over...and over....ANND OVER for 10+ years now.
ive never had a video align so well with my religious beliefs
on god idk why i make content in this game sometimes
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Who would have thought that releasing an incomplete game, with a fractured player/fanbase and keeping it like that for almost 2 years would lead to a game to have few players
To be honest, lottery isn't that big of an issue, it gives game modes that never get played some light. Since most people play Slayer/Infection, Fiesta, and Big Team battle (this is evident with all Halos that include these options) and other game modes are left to die. I have yet to see actual concern over the lottery playlist outside of people just being mad they cant play CTF when they want to, when reality the player base barely plays outside of 3-4 game modes. The Slayer playlist alone is always full, which just proves my point that taking away the lottery would just kill game modes and people would complain about there not being enough players for oddball.
It's honestly not that big of a deal. The biggest problem for this game is that is still uses the BLAM engine as a base and Reach (this is proven by the Spartan sometimes spinning in place which was first shown in Reach and has reoccurred since then). Hit detection is wocky (however better than the other FPS games out right now but that's not an excuse) and the melee is still having issues from Halo 2 and 3. Those are the real issues, not a lottery playlist that's full everyday and takes less than 30 seconds to connect to a game (mind you CoD takes about 2-3 minutes to find a game despite it's player base). Halo Infinite does have its problems I do admit, especially since the sandbox patches for the campaign (they should just make Multiplayer updates separate from Campaign like they did with Halo 5). It's just the lottery system is so low on the list that it wouldn't really have an impact if it was changed or not. This just feels like a very personal issue that people haven't really thought about, it's just something to complain about and those people are the worst because they just will never enjoy anything. They try to become the loudest voices, ruining it for others because it's not Halo 3. Like I'm a Halo 2 fan purist personally but I'm not going to be mad and make irrelevant arguments as to why the game is failing.
They still haven’t fixed that shit?!?!? Haven’t played in over a year! They still won’t let you play the way you want to play. 😂😂😂🤣😭
naw man the worst part of halo infinite is giving everybody the sidekick pistol to spawn with.
if i wanted everybody to spawn with I power weapon I would play fiesta.
I got on to play ranked snipers after only playing it twice, and now its fucking gone. What the fuck?! It was there for like 2 days?! (I probably dont have the time accuracy, but essentially i only got on those two days to play ranked snipers) but now its gone and now i dont wanna play cause every playlist is basically the same thing. A shuffle of everything. I could pick one playlist and get the same thing i would from the others...
I hope the tactical playlist gets a update in the future. It would be nice to play with the BR or Bandit. Commando Rifle and Sidekick would be okay too. But all other variants in that playlist don't feel appropiate for Tactical Slayer (SWAT).
Incredible in how much of a better state the game is by now. Later this month we'll have firefight and all that's left is to add new weapons and vehicles
csgo has it best in their competitive, you can choose which maps you play on and choose which ones you do not want to get. If only Halo had that for just the casual modes. Everytime my friends and I play we get the same maps multiple times in a row and we end up leaving or quitting
im convinced that 343 is sabotaging the game to make people go play halo 5
I tried this game casually in the free to play mode, my god the only people who play this game are the biggest try hards and no one else, what is the point of having FTP if the only people who would play this game are the people who play it 5000 hours everyone else just gets crushed.
Hear me out. The only good things, in my opinion, that 343 gave us was Halo 4s story. ONLY THE STORY. Halo 5s warzone idea granted req packs sucked. The idea itself was great and actually turned out fun-ish. Halo infinites story was a DECENT closure to the f up that was halo 5 guardians…
i want to play MCC, but the lack of aim assist on M/Kb is absolute aids.
Mouse and keyboard feels great up until you pick up a precision weapon and the controller boys just shit on you from 30 yards away.
I want Halo CE PC version. Instead they gave us the less updated(not as good) Console version. Then the ranked halo 1 doesn't even have big team battle. Look halo CE originally was 2v2's. Yet the PC version had such a fun multi-player.
It's really fucking telling when I play MWII(22) more than Infinite, which has its own problems, repetitive af when I don't even have the BP for it. Smh.
If they'd only balance M&K and controller inputs in mcc and add a modded customs browser, it would be perfect.
Literally all they need to do is put in a map voting system, have players vote from a selection of 3 random maps, each with a random game mode. Fucking easy, games have been doing this since like the dawn of online shooters.
This would also require a pre and post game lobby system which is already in demand from the player base.
Yeah I remember even Return to Castle Wolfenstein had a voting system like that, and that was the early 2000s.
Imagine voting for your next map you wanna play? And then seeing what maps need reworks based on communities voting, then making a separate 24/7 playlist version of the rework of the map.
Just a crazy thought that could make maps more better as an overall experience.
(I get dripping content, cod can learn from this too. Drop 1 new map and rework a map that is clearly no one wants to play.)