Prisons, energy and the NHS: how bold will Starmer’s cabinet be? | SpectatorTV
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- In his first 24 hours as Prime Minister, Keir Starmer has appointed his cabinet and held a cabinet meeting. Most of his frontbench have carried over their shadow briefs, but there were a few surprise appointments too. With huge mountains to climb when it comes to the NHS, welfare and prisons, how radical will Keir's 'Starmtroopers' be?
Cindy Yu speaks to Fraser Nelson and Katy Balls.
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James Timpson seems like a key appointment
😂 I see what you did there.
I work in a prison and they tried to expand it 3 times wasting MILLIONS of tax payers money and still haven't broken ground.
@@tresslerj1985 how do you live with yourself doing the devils work and narcissistic games on the prisoners?
How do you live with yourself?
Doing the devil’s works and narcissistic games on the prisoners?
What would you do if turns out there’s a day of judgment?
You’d be f***ed then
Your taking a big risk and for no big reward
How do drugs get into prisons and how do you get Blow Jobs from female prison officers?
David Lammy 😂
Window licker, crayon collector 🤡
I love this appointment. If we're to be a serious country again, why not bring experts into ministerial office (Like other countries do E.G. Poland)? Everyone should see the current status quo of having moderately intelligent amateurs shuffling between cabinet positions every six months as the pointless, ineffective exercise it is.
Ah yes, just look at how experts handled Covid.
@@fredo1070Look how politicians handled it 🤣
@@AgentGreyFox Yes, they listened to the experts, trust the science.
Anyone with any intelligence and honesty wouldn't touch politics with a barge pole.
JM Keynes was pretty useful after WW2.
David Lammy who is not only one who preaches racism. But as foreign secretary. No experience. And senseless. Imagine him talking about making peace with Sergey Lavrov one of the most experienced and knowledgeable people in foreign countries and affairs. It will be so embarrassing.
This will be the shortest political honeymoon period.
Band of gold song lyrics are appropriate here
4 yrs or so then gone...it won't take long for us to see their intentions.
First thing he needs to do is sack the upper echelons of the NHS and put some serious business people in there to sort it out. My contacts with those at the sharp end indicate that the problem comes from the top management and certainly from my experience the sharp end people are top class TRYING to give a service.
Clearly you're not familiar with how "sharp business people" operate.
The folks you speak of know nothing of providing good services, their sole job is to provide good returns each quarter for share holders.
Thinking applying the business approach to public services is what's put us in the mess we're in.
@@johnhawkins2717 Totally agree, it needs pushing that the NHS is not a business it’s a publicly funded service.
So the standard for a ministerial ‘flying start’ is a Tweet! 🤔🤨
Streeting's post about the NHS was fairly empty boilerplate, so I don't know why the guy here was gushing over it. What he liked was apparently how it implies fundamental changes, but if this happens I suspect they will be similar to Brown's public/private partnerships, ie stuff they wouldn't let the Tories get away with but Labour makes more palatable for some reason..
Ask him to look into cousin marriages in Bradford with all the associated birth defects and why it costing the NHS a fortune and will continue to do so . Search " birth defects in bradford " to get some idea of it .
Dopey people think the NHS is safe in Labours hands
Appointing to cabinet Lisa Nandy, a woman who thinks that rapists should be placed in women-only prisons if they want it, and David Lamy, a man who thinks that being black makes him immune to criticism for his ignorance on women's rights and female anatomy, shows how NOT serious Starmer is about representing the public.
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 Awe didums, super majority getting to you frazer 😂
sending hugs!....
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 David "we won't have time to repeal Tory laws" Lammy
Nope it's the fact that Labour are kind of shit @@marksykes1191
@@skyblazeeterno Awe bless , your tears are the sweetest nectar I have ever tasted 😂😂😂
Well don’t let them out then! Build proper mental institutions for gods sake!
Yeah we're going to need more and more of them thanks to Labour when their fantasy green policies start to bite.
Yes to put himself and his Government in them.😅😅😅😅😅
Timpson’s a smart appt by PM & whole model is a lot more nuanced. - From crime prevention to managing reoffending rates; education, rehab & resettlement. Mental health & addiction issues are often huge part & then there’s types of crime & risk. Plus the capacity & condition of the estate & public protection & victim support issues. Sounds like they’ll review whole model & treatment of each component. I don’t think Starmer will ever be soft on crime as former DPP & unlike last Govt, release unlikely to be driven by shortage of prison spaces but probably based on key interventions & outcomes.
They will be very bold indeed if they have david lammy as one of their leading stars who famously thought Henry the seventh became the king AFTER henry the eighth when he appeared on celebrity mastermind. 🤣🤣🤣
😆😆😆
Which king was which in bygone eras is key knowledge to being a successful foreign minister in modern times. Truss probably knows it but unfortunately did not know the borders between Russia and Ukraine.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL I CANTTTT
Lammy is an absolute arse
He has a Master's from Harvard Law.
Labour’s plans and appointments seem really grounded and very positive. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
WAKEUP!
Got my comment deleted?
Your not worth my time!!
@@jeanlockley2911 I didn’t waste my time deleting your comment. That was somebody else.
@@jeanlockley2911 anything is better than conservatives or reform. At least labour are sane.
Let Labour remember Aneurin Bevan 😊
Labour to decriminalise crime. They did that in California and Los Angeles. Two cities that have collapsed into anarchy.
Did he just imply women shouldn't be in prison? Women already get much less time in prison than men for the same crime.
So looks as if we are moving towards more electronic tagging. Instead of drugs couriers whizzing round on their e bikes, people will now have to call at their house 🙄
Drugs should be decriminalised. Drug laws have created a trillion-dollar global organised crime industry that corrupts police, politicians and judiciary.
Exactly, these people are daft!
Use the detention camps that boris built during covid lockdown to increase prison capacity.
Increase capacity? How much is that gonna cost? Where are you going to get the prison workers from?
@@henrydemonfreid1985 so bojo built six detention camps without considering the cost of staffing them. Tory policy. Figures. Deals to buddies. Back handers etc. But no money to staff them. Amazing!
@@Denise-vn8wz I heard G4S is in charge of prison staff now… That they go through so little training and a high turnover of staff that the system is totally kaput.
Lol, the male journalist said the new Health Minister got off to a 'flying start' within 2 hours - Streeting just sent out a tweet saying the NHS is broken. I guess the people at the Spectator are easily impressed.
nhs is broken because people abuse it, and some of the staff too, blood scandals, mass murder, surgeon branding livers, rapist doctors, murdering nurses,
Streeting is absolutely correct in his assessment, I work for the NHS and its broken. It's nor just hospitals but care homes. So little available so then old people stay in hospital and then bed block!!
Home grown Nurses are off to Australia and we've ransacked India and other countries for there's!! How do you save the NHS?
@@simoncooper8520 not the point the comment was making. It is broken is an obvious statement that does not need saying. Having a journo impressed by 'the sun is hot' statement show the lack of intergrity of the journo.
@@rebeccahedge7566It’s a good benchmark against which to set Labour‘s achievements in office so that right wing media outlets can’t just blame everything on the incoming government.
@freebeerfordworkers Since Thatcher introduced Right to Buy, councils have had to sell off their council houses at a significant discount, meaning they've pretty much universally fallen far below the social housing stocks they need. After the 2008 financial crisis when many councils effectively lost all their savings and then had their budgets massively cut back during Austerity, they've been on a desperate scramble to afford the basic mandatory services they have to provide, so have had to make decisions like (for example) closing down care homes they can't afford to run anyway in order to convert them into flats that are desparately needed to meet their minimum needs there.
Basically all ready finding excuses
And they don't have any
Labour worked with Conservative all the time
Im hopefuly about labour. It certainly wont be worse than the last 5
Shut prisons so it starts the soft touch. Do the crime do the time, I've been attacked (taxi driver) I have had my car kicked and was awarded damages which I never got, infact the guy did more crime and I was told they had scrapped the money he owed me after 2years of waiting in exchange for a prison sentence however the sentence was for a separate crime.
I believe they should be tougher on them, yes give them the benefit of the doubt for the first crime and maybe try to get them on the straight and narrow but after that put them in tough prisons with no TV or games, no gym just basic food and water I guarantee best part of them won't want to go back
Bold was running up the Normandy beaches on June the 6th 1944 ,the only bold this lot know is the washing machine powder .
No isn't it a button in that software thingy?
They prepped that landing for 2+ years, they held off so long 5 million Russian soldiers died pulling the Germans away from France so that America could avoid casualties. They cleared the airspace completely and ran a gasoline line undersea to France from Britain before they would get off their asses in Britain. No it was not "bold" it was late, oversupplied, and so careful as to be criminally negligent. But you keep on imagining how great it was, you keep buying into the bullshit. Most of it was a cakewalk, the weather was more dangerous than the Germans when compared to Russian sacrifice.
They boldly stuffed their snouts in the expenses book.
@@cliveo3 ah but at least they are using Bold Professional!
@@cliveo3 god, the war was 80 years ago, let it go
I wonder who they would have got for justice if Shabana Mahmood hasn't scraped home. Or Health with Streeting.
Under the prevailing socio-economic conditions, one wonders how much change Starmer Government will be able to bring about. However, having said that I wish the new Labour Government best wishes and all the luck in the world.
Streeting has no mandate for anything with his tiny majority.
@@stevenwilliamson6236 we need to get first past the post removed
Am I correct in thinking nearly all the MP have been voted in by less than what, 30% of eligible adults? (given such incredibly low turn out)
We'll have to wait and see but one will want to discuss electoral reform until nearer the next election
@@mlb2076Strange how right leaning voters have only just 2 days ago decided that they don't like FPTP.🤔
No, really? 😱 You should go tell him, mate!
Very troubling that labour seem to believe that two thirds of those prisoners shouldn’t be in prison 🤷♀️
Exactly but remember, they do not have to live next to these people.....
All seems fairly sensible so far to be fair.
Strange to see isn't it? An odd feeling after the last 10 years to think we might not have completely self interested loonies running the show
How many prime well paid jobs for starmers family friends and his 'boys' will there be?
I can only imagine the mess they will make
As opposed to the last 14 years.
coming up, assisted dying in line with starmer's malthusian beliefs.
Looooooo{ool😂
Added insult to injury.
It's not what a politician SAYS, it's what they DO NOT say...
Labour's cabinet haven't got a brain between them God help us all.
@michaelcoomes7670 Many stellar academy records. Successful careers then made it onto the cabinet. That one brain cell seems to be a good one.
I'm not overly enthused by most the cabinet, but hopefully they do a good job. Big hopes for S5reeting as hes been shadowing for 3 years
Or you could fufil one of the basic roles of a criminal justice system and actually penalize people who cause real harm and damage to others instead of bending over backwards for those who decide to commit crime and stop denying victims of crime any form of justice by gaslighting the public with nonsense about how prisons don't work and we should be investing taxpayers money with endless efforts to rehabilitate those who will never change their ways without real fear of consequences if they do not.
@peterholden3672 with a prison population where over 75% in for either violent, sexual or drug offences- the idea that a minister can turn around and tell the public that 1/3rd of them shouldn't be there so they can stay at home and serve a sentence whilst being able enjoy the privileges of a family life and employment, privileges which statistically they have denied others, is abhorrent.
Your broken English writing skill is criminal.
@@johnsmith1474 🤣 go outside and touch grass
@@redcoated2517 I totally agree with your sense of justice, but I think Labours plans make sense, considering they are talking about different sections of the prison population. I doubt the egregiously nasty criminals would be the ones serving their sentence at home. That would probably just go to petty criminals, (like people stealing food since malnutrition is a big problem under tory rule) and also drug addicts would be in this section, hopefully getting the proper advice on helping to stop their addictions.
@@redcoated2517"violent, sexual or drugs" is a massively broad category that you've just made up. Take out drug-use "crimes" and decriminalise, and you'll reduce prison congestion and organised crime/police corruption at a stroke.
He won't... anyone believing that any politicians ever keep their pledges is a muppet 🤣
Starmer will be off to Davos to get his pat on the back from Schwab and his instructions from The WEF.
Prison reform starts with Drug policy reform! All drug use should be decriminalised and treated as a health issue or non-issue depending on the drugs. Crazy how drug policy reform isn't mentioned at all on any mainstream news media in regards to prison reform.
I'm glad someone finally put Lisa Nandy in her place 😁
Don’t remember most of this in the manifesto
There was no manifesto. Just a to Do list which means they can get away with any crap they vote on without accountability. It is like an oligarchy
Party who lectures about racism don’t have an inclusive / diverse cabinet 😂
not bold just an utter nightmare for freedom loving people
We are practically a bankrupt country arent we? Reforms are not going to work if managers and CEOs keep awarding themselves large pay rises every year & generous pensions on their retirement. Also there are "too many chiefs and not enough indians" as the saying goes. Prime example of this, is the NHS, along with Water companies and local councils. They are a law on to themselves.
Prison is a easy one
Set longer prison sentences
No good behaviour off
Get rid of computers phones
Games room
It's a prison not a holiday camp
More schooling and keep fit
@@cleolector710 and give Linda her job back at hmp Wandsworth
Great Britain = Disneyland for migrants and they all get given FREE Fast Track Wristbands for all the rides, Hotel accommodation along with Food is also FREE! All on us, the TAX PAYERS.
And the Boats just keep coming, and they are getting bigger and bigger.
R.I.P UK
@@G4RY1159 411 😂
You're honestly more likely to be being seen by a migrant in the average A&E at the moment than in the queue behind them. The most prominent place in the country when it comes to migration has always been the South-east and the fact the people there did not base their votes on migration is pretty telling. There are a whole list of things the average voter in this election was far more concerned about
@@andrewpepper3145 Your Clearly not up to date on the many full Hotels, or various other properties that are full, and that's only increasing.
Do some real digging, I have and it was spread over years.
What is concerning, disturbing, is what little you know.
The Sun and Daily Heil says?
@@56NeilWatson I don't read papers
Go back to bed.
Does that mean sam melia will be released for his non crime?
Is the week in 60 minutes coming back?
1, she didn't say that about prisoners and 2 I trust timpson about anything more than a client journalist of a corrupt tory party
A freak show worthy of any circus!!
How much he does depends on how much USA wants him to do!
Lammy as FS?!?!
FFS, god help us all.
You appear to have a nasty case of the FFSSs. Get that looked at, if you can. I imagine you'll have to go private.
Kid starver starmer has no idea, He is the most vile man outside of prison in this country
Forcing shyster utility companies to abolish their obscene standing charges and cancelling the frozen personal tax allowance set by chancellor Hunt would be welcome but i doubt if it will happen anytime soon.
Their views seemed aligned to me… find alternative solutions for people who do not benefit from being in prison which frees up place for those who do. Seems sensible to me.
If the Tories were useless, this is definitely a Hold My Beer moment by Labour.
I expect nothing good.
we can already see they have no intention of addressing poverty, it should of been first on their list. same old top down nonsense
@@hybridh9702 unless you are mentally ill there is no excuse to BE in poverty in the UK
How can Labour be worse?
Truss wiped out my savings and made me lose my mortgage when she crashed the economy
How can Starmer do any worse than that?
@@AFndjdj7373expect privatisation of the NHS and perhaps getting us involved in a foreign war
@@skyblazeeternothose are already happening 😂
Are you mad? Or just a Russia bot?
Urgent!!
Prepare for waves of Crime coming!!
We’re finished
We were under the Conservative party.
Very dark days for the UK ahead, fantastic result by reform though! Time to bring in proportional representation now! Reform 4.1m votes, 14% of the vote share but only 5 seats!
Can't stand Labour but this prison idea is actually a good idea. We should have done it. We have people in prison who are there for missing bill payments and smoking pot recreationally. I can believe we are wasting a lot of money jailing these people.
The justice system is a total joke and has been for years . Making death threats against an autistic schoolboy for accidentally dropping a quran and the police not even bothering with them but prosecuting the boys mother is a good example of it.
Attacker Smoked Cannabis.
That's rubbish. I worked in prisons. Violence, fraud, false documents (immigration offences), burglary, rape, child porn, etc. not smoking pot ornot paying bills.
Stop MPs from having 2nd jobs
Let them all in !!!!!
Only 24 hours. It seems like an eternity. How much more suffering do I have to endure?
European Civilisation never recovered from the French Revolution. Just saying.
Awww!
Congratulations keepup the MOMENTUM
It feels like Labour want Reform to win in 2029
Labour only got in for 2 reasons: due to a voter turn out at 60% - one of the lowest turn outs in 20 years - meant that, thanks to how undemocratic our voting system is under the completely corrupt 1st past the past system, a third of those voters were the only ones to actually voted Labour in. It's quite frightening that such a small percentage of votes somehow managed to get Labour a massive majority of 410 seats... This country is turning gradually into a dictatorial state, where, thanks to incredibly dubious hard left ideologies, anything even remotely perceived as offensive, sexist, racist, homophobic, ad infinitum, can get you sacked, or in extreme cases, legal action taken against you.
How anyone can possibly think Labour will drastically change the direction of Britain with its higher echelons all coming from the same institutions that got us to where we currently are, are incredibly delusional.
This nation is also on the cusp of bankruptcy with our debt-to-GDP ratio practically at %100...Be prepared to see more tax hikes in the very near future.
So, this is the guy taking us to war
It's going to be one of the funniest comedy shows ever ! Wet blanket & Ginger !
The Geheime Staats Polizei
Women can commit crimes and walk free, but men must serve time? Why not just prosecute by race? This madness must be stopped.
Anyone else think Children Of Men is the future..
A chamber of horrors!
Great description!
What a stupid comment people attacking the labour party are bitter because labour won the election
Better than the previous Government's cabinet? 🤔😂😂😂😂😂
Labour will piss in the wind for 5 years until reform takes over. The people have spoken
What a waste of time if an analysis of the new cabinet.
HEARTBROKEN!
😢😢😢😢😢😢
Pollution in the highest while we in the UK are being punished by our Government for climate change man date while many other Countries seem to only to have greed rather than care for human life.
So while they act selfishly, we have to suffer by forced Government policies onto us without care for us, in so many ways that has become absolutely impossible for many of us to endure.
This is obviously causing mental health issues and it continues to escalate as companies continue to profit more and more every year while UK citizens suffer from the burden off selfishness by greedy businesses, supermarkets chains, Insurance companies, Energy Companies, Higher Taxes in almost every aspect 8n our day to day living, rise in rents, bills and charges on Vehicles in all avenues almost gives us not much positive to look forward too.
With our women, girls being harassed, raped or bullying.
Our Christian Culture seems to be set at the back of Muslim culture which is not our history.
Our Late Majesty Queen Elizabeth RIP must be so disappointed in our Government on the continued aggressive behaviour onto our Christian Culture by not looking after our heritage, firstly by putting others over our own culture.
We have still open our hearts and were willing to help where we can and sadly we are treated as 3rd class citizens or that we are the ones coming here looking for help.
Our families have fought, died and not even in death where they rest are they being left to RIP.
While Government hands out millions to Muslims to give them Graveyards which will be on top of our Loved ones that fought for our Country is being let down after there services to Country.
It is truly heartbreaking to see our beautiful Country that our Grandfather's, Grandfather's, fathers, mothers, brothers and sister's have fought to build a beautiful Country for us to be proud is now being pulled right out from under our feet.
But; when Election comes around our Government knows who we are only until they are elected and then we are swept over the Cliffs like waste they couldn't wait to get ride off.
There is a God, God Our Father will lead us to our eternal glory and I pray that my God will be a forgiving God for what Our Government has done onto us.
Heavily Father, I Recite Your Son's Words on the Cross.
Father Forgive Them For They Not Know What They Have Done. Amen 🙏 🙏 🙏
Wes Streeting as a successor to Keir Starmer? Heaven help us.
it won't happen
They are shutting women's prisons not mens prisons.
What is a woman ?
They are re-rolling them to be male prisons. Female prisoners are equally vile.
Rayner goes to Oxfam for her clothes
Rayner is the most unscrupulous politician ever, a National embarrassment to GB
It's going to be a disaster. Sir Keir Starmer could not answer the question about "what is a woman?", his record when he was head of the CPS is open to scrutiny too. No male rapist who identifies as a woman should be allowed into a women's prison. No one should be in prison for failure to pay the fine imposed for not having a TV licence. There are some extreme left wing people in this cabinet, the party is divided over Israel/Gaza situation, they will give no pushback on woke ideology in education, NHS, civil service etc. The constitutional changes are concerning too. Blair encouraged mass immigatrion because many immigrants vote Labour, so there will be no attempt to control that either.
The blue rinse brigade will be having kittens. They wanted to lock people up for the crime of being homeless.
Yes, but presumously they're also having kittens that so many are being released early because of the Tories approach, so not sure there is a 'blue rinse friendly' approach available?
Sorry, in charge of prison, has nothing to do with sentences. What rubbish!
2m people could 'probably' be working. Have you made that number up?
Is this the beginning of an end to political credibility.
David lamys not fit to be mopping the floors
Trust the process......this too cannot last.....
Lammy. No no no!
real ? how long before the in fighting starts as they only have the same policies as wishy washy
WEF tosspots
Absolute rubbish, and will get worse
@@carolegill2456 Can’t get be any worst than the last 14 years we’ve had under Tories
What's worse that "absolute"? Moderate your hyperbole, woman!
Its not funny but in might eventually be safer in prison than out snd about.
prison comment is true
What is a women?
Labour running the country is like allowing the inmates to run the asylum.
Not a mad idea at all to be honest.
I'm not sure anyone should be in prison for non-violent crimes. Most other crimes could be more efficiently punished with fines, community service, and house-arrest.
@@andybrice2711 What about the case of Sam Bankman Fried? Do you think he should escape prison?
@@JamchesterBoozle Well, actually - yes! He should be obliged to return all of the money to his company's victims out of his own pocket. If he hasn't got the money, then garnish his incomes for as long as it takes - for the rest of his life, if need be. Putting him in prison is adding insult to injury - the people who lost their money due to his crime now have to pay (through taxes) for his prison stay. Wherever possible, restitution, even only partial restitution, is a far better resolution than putting someone in prison.
Delusional. You don’t think burglary leaves people traumatized. What a soppy left wing comment
@@JamchesterBoozle Yeah. For financial crimes certainly, the penalties should be primarily financial. He should have to serve a long program of community service. And an even longer sentence of having any wealth or earnings almost entirely garnished to try and compensate his victims.
Though there is always the option of low-security prisons.
How about if a scammer robbed your family of every penny? No prison?
The word "bold" should be stricken from the political lexicon, it's a nonsense term unless you are talking about that fool who ran wearing the bright yellow suit covered with inane badges & buttons.
@@johnsmith1474 I didn’t know Boris Johnson got himself a yellow jacket
Katy Balls should confine herself to the written word. Her mangling of the English language is very difficult to listen to.
Let’s not forget Lammy accused papal smoke of being racist
Rayner Nandy Dodds
You’d be hard pressed to find 100iq points in the entire Labour cabinet