🔥Electronic Shifting for Everybody? - SRAM Rival AXS 🔥

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 23 жов 2024

КОМЕНТАРІ • 194

  • @gravgrav
    @gravgrav 3 роки тому +19

    Love your camera work on this one. Love the use of long focal length for that mid shot of you w/ domane

  • @rolffuchs2737
    @rolffuchs2737 3 роки тому +7

    Every time i tested an electric shifting is said to myself, wow i need it. Than i came back to my mechanical Ultegra and asked myself why? - This is so easy and brilliant and effortless.

    • @LazyGrayF0x
      @LazyGrayF0x 3 роки тому

      Same. Friend let me try Force, which is very nice, so then I went and $400 for Dura Ace 900 mechanical lol

  • @NicolasLangloisDemers
    @NicolasLangloisDemers 3 роки тому +6

    The millisecond shifting delay is standard on all ETAP/AXS (even on Red). It is less apparent with a single derailleur setup only (doesn't have to analyze for dual paddle signal).
    You get used to it an eventually learn to shift a millisecond earlier.

    • @tinglydingle
      @tinglydingle Рік тому

      Have to say that I've not noticed it, but I run 1x so that might explain it.

  • @cccorlew
    @cccorlew 3 роки тому +6

    Bonus love for mentioning lack of blips means less accessibility. What a great job overall. LOW GEARS! YEA!

  • @gamby16a
    @gamby16a 3 роки тому +5

    It's a step in the right direction, although the weight weenie in me will stick with Rival CX1 (cross/gravel) and Red 10 (road) for the time being.
    $249 powermeter is incredible. I wish they'd make it in GXP so any setup could use it.
    Also, you're getting damn influencey to have this setup on video the day the gruppo was released! Very impressive 😃

  • @johnmeloy4667
    @johnmeloy4667 3 роки тому +22

    Mechanical brakes you say? There already is an option for that: Force eTap AXS shifters. They come in both HRD and mechanical versions, and the mechanical versions are $230-only $30 more than these Rival AXS shifters (sans caliper). So problem solved!

    • @fjskj6529
      @fjskj6529 2 роки тому

      Theres one on eBay right now and Im kinda weary if those really existed. Looks like SRAM abandoned it? Theres barely any signs of it existing ever

  • @ToddWBucy-lf8yz
    @ToddWBucy-lf8yz 3 роки тому +8

    all I want are the shifters...pair that with an Eagle GX rear derailer and you have the perfect electronic mullet setup.

    • @00fattimatti00
      @00fattimatti00 3 роки тому

      I'm currently building a bike like that. Just with the force shifters as these weren't out yet.

    • @vongdong10
      @vongdong10 3 роки тому

      I'm planning to do a mullet build, too bad these shifters sold out instantly. Just bought the crankset and GX eagle rear derailleur to prepare for when the shifters come back in stock

    • @GasmanA
      @GasmanA 3 роки тому

      LOL posted same thing elsewhere....I’m converting a Midnight Special from mechanical brakes and Rival to Rival AXS hydro w a GX Eagle. I was going to change the cassette and go 12 speed 9-46 with eThirteen but no figure the existing setup works great so lets just make it hydro - electric!

  • @erniebecquer7835
    @erniebecquer7835 2 роки тому

    Just received my 2023 Domane SL6 eTap, the bike is amazing and the eTap drivetrain works beyond my expectations. It’s smooth and responsive.

  • @peterbaskind9872
    @peterbaskind9872 3 роки тому +3

    My gravel build from last year has GRX Di2. It's fun. But I am not convinced that electronic shifting is a game changer. I would certainly want mechanical shifting on a touring bike.

  • @frakafrocka
    @frakafrocka 3 роки тому +3

    Russ u have ridden so many bikes. Please make a vid on how to find best spot to install drop bar brake levers on handlebars. Thanks for content.

  • @mauricioorantes9809
    @mauricioorantes9809 3 роки тому +9

    Nice review. Good job. Hope Laura is okay.

  • @NickNiemiec
    @NickNiemiec 3 роки тому +1

    Nice to see you finally getting to the niche brand known for their cool 80s steel touring bikes - Trek!

  • @gemsimmx
    @gemsimmx 3 роки тому +1

    I think if you use a Force AXS shift-break lever (for rim brakes) instead of Rival AXS, then you can use brake cables (assuming cable pull length is same for rim and mechanical disc brake) and also blips...

  • @alarson722
    @alarson722 3 роки тому +2

    Ordered patches and stickers just this week, can't wait! Great review, I appreciate your thoughtful and honest take on these topics. I've learned so much from your videos. Thank you for sharing.

  • @TheGotoGeek
    @TheGotoGeek 3 роки тому +1

    As far as cable brakes, there is an option: use the Red or Force eTap rim brake shifters. I don’t know how the pricing works out with that, but it’s doable.

  • @chrisralston2654
    @chrisralston2654 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for your perspective, Russ. I beelive the reason SRAM has a slight lag shifting is because the system has to confirm you are not pressing the other shifter, indicating a front mech change.

    • @facejoker1349
      @facejoker1349 3 роки тому +1

      How about 1x gear config?. Can I shifting faster?.

    • @chrisralston2654
      @chrisralston2654 3 роки тому

      @@facejoker1349 Good question! If the 1x shifts at the same speed, then my theory is junk. Russ?

    • @thedownunderverse
      @thedownunderverse Рік тому

      @@facejoker1349 yes, 1x is faster

  • @michaelgoodman3326
    @michaelgoodman3326 3 роки тому

    I'm using Shimano GRX Di2 with a 2x, 48/31 and an 11-40 11 spd cassette. It's considerably better than 1-1 gearing and can even take an 11-42 cassette for even slightly easier gears. Nothing special required to set this up. It all worked straight out of the box. It's expensive but I really appreciate Di2. Super easy to shift even on seriously technical terrain when I don't want to move my hand position to try to shift. It's been bullet proof and only requires recharging about every 2-3 months.

  • @danmathis4046
    @danmathis4046 3 роки тому +1

    Another excellent review. And, thanks for the consistent advice on lower gears. Age + inclines = need for lower gears!

  • @gilerd77
    @gilerd77 3 роки тому +5

    Why would you ever need such low gears? Haha got ya! Lower the better dude. Thanks for review, a labor of love 💕.

  • @Nicoya
    @Nicoya 3 роки тому +6

    I think the $200-ish premium to upgrade to a power meter is a game changer. The question goes from "why ride with power" to "why not ride with power".

    • @larrywhite8590
      @larrywhite8590 3 роки тому +2

      I’m not sure party pace and power meters are a thing. But I’m with you on this.

    • @Nicoya
      @Nicoya 3 роки тому +2

      @@larrywhite8590 How else are you supposed to enforce the "nobody go over 100watts" ride rule?

    • @tubamonkey1
      @tubamonkey1 3 роки тому

      The use of the term game-chanher after the year 2008 exposes your inner roadie

  • @afsocit
    @afsocit 3 роки тому +3

    lack of blips is a real bummer. for me it's one of the main things appealing about electronic drivetrains

  • @Kingjay814
    @Kingjay814 3 роки тому +10

    I just wish SRAM didn't use DOT3 for their brakes. I love what SRAM is doing with their group sets. I hope this will be the push Shimano needs to expand their Di2 tech down to the 105 level.

    • @Rikcey
      @Rikcey 3 роки тому +2

      They dont use DOT3, it's DOT5.1.
      There's imho, no downsides, it's more available for cheaper, and highly regulated. Never had a brake fade. The chance of mineral oil to have water at the caliper is more than enough reason to go DOT.

    • @fadenseiden
      @fadenseiden 3 роки тому

      @@Rikcey Mineral >>> Dot

    • @Rikcey
      @Rikcey 3 роки тому +1

      @@fadenseiden I disagree for the reasons stated above.

    • @tubamonkey1
      @tubamonkey1 3 роки тому

      Shimano has become the Apple of components. They rely on a history of innovation, while simply copying (claiming to improve) on new ideas and designs.

  • @p.a.ch.3861
    @p.a.ch.3861 2 роки тому

    quite agree with you that too many " electronic" surrounding our life these days ; i prefer to ride to the nature on mechnical components without worry about any electrical issues and phone connection

  • @glennpettersson9002
    @glennpettersson9002 3 роки тому +1

    I look forward to all the used mechanical group sets that will be coming into the used market👍

  • @alfonsolizarazo9806
    @alfonsolizarazo9806 3 роки тому +1

    No thanks, No dot fluid for me. I am a home mechanic, I recently got rid of a Force CX1 group as I could not stand those breaks/bleeding. I may try the GX AXS for MTB set up though. Nice to this channel POV on this topic.

  • @jonamcc
    @jonamcc 3 роки тому

    The only disc brakes I've had that never squeaked or rubbed were the TRP HyRd. Flat mount road disc brakes are a PITA to adjust and install.

  • @BlackWaterCyclist
    @BlackWaterCyclist 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and honest review. I agree with you on the electronic delay. I think it's just I'm used to the mechanical shifters from years past and the electronic definitely feels disconnected. I know I really do not like electronic shifters on the mtb bc of delay.

  • @maxredburn6610
    @maxredburn6610 3 роки тому +25

    I'm a fan of mechanical bicycles!

  • @eto2352
    @eto2352 3 роки тому +3

    Best review of the groupset i've seen. Honest, and really well-thought out pros/cons.
    It does seem like a big mistake not offering a mechanical version, especially on the "entry level" group.
    I understand it on the higher end stuff, but they really limit the potential in a major way.
    Good thing is, Shimano Di2 redesigns will be dropping soon, so more instantaneous shifts and reliability and precision. Also hoping for 105 Di2!

  • @GasmanA
    @GasmanA 3 роки тому +3

    I agree my @pathlesspedaled there is a slight delay. Not significant but noticeable. I have a Red AXS setup and a Di2 and the Shimano version is noticeably quicker. I do love the idea of brining wireless to Rival. And the wireless aspect is easier then Di2 even thought I prefer the ability to manipulate the RD better with the Shimano app. Great review and nice that you got it so quick!!

  • @arjay325
    @arjay325 2 роки тому

    Awesome review! This groupset looks great and might be considering getting this for my first geared bike. Currently riding an urban fixed gear bike and a tracklocross. :) You deserve more subs, sir! Cheers from Manila!

  • @davetbassbos
    @davetbassbos 3 роки тому

    You could record shifting on a stand, then import the recording into an audio editor like the free Audacity. Then zoom in on the audio, flag the sound of the shifter clicking and then flag the sound of the derailleur moving. You can then see the difference in milliseconds between the two actions, simple!

  • @jeffk433
    @jeffk433 3 роки тому

    Have Di2 on 1 bike. Nice option but Disc Brakes are a must have. I get the reasons you like mechanical disc brakes Russ but I like hydraulic. I think the bigger thing to address is ease of maintenance with hydraulic. They should stick with mineral oil based & streamline flushing.

  • @cefiersBlock
    @cefiersBlock 3 роки тому

    I fell like the big advantage of electronic shifting is the size if the levers and the that you can have multiple shifters.
    I would really like to try a setup with alt bars and multiple "under bartape" shifters. Then connect everything to a hub dynamo :D
    It would be awesome if there was a open electronic system out there where one battery powers your light, shifting, dropper, bell,charger and you could connect all brands (of course wireless neds its own battery) there is even an electronic rholoff so you could run some really wierd setups.

  • @swray2112
    @swray2112 3 роки тому

    Saw quite a few videos about the Rival AXS release today. Normally I ignore releases about major manufacturer groupsets, but I'm especially interested in the cranks. I've spent hours & hours researching and the AXS is the only ones that fit my criteria. I almost shelled out the $450 for the Force AXS cranks to replace my very long in the tooth FS7000s (Ultegra level compact, before Shimano would stoop to making an actual Ultegra compact). I currently run 2x with 34T/44T on the 5-bolt 110BCD cranks. 5-bolt 44T 110BCD chainrings are getting really hard to find! I can live with the 13T jump instead of 10T, but won't give up the low Q factor or 172.5mm arms of road cranks. I agree with Russ, too bad they didn't make a cable brake version, but I'll never ride anything other than Retro-shift (Gevenalle) hood mounted shifters, so moot point for me.

  • @markwilkinson3903
    @markwilkinson3903 3 роки тому

    What do I think ? It certainly interests me, more than I thought it would - I've never seriously considered electronic shifting (one more thing to go wrong / to charge up before I can go for a ride ) but I could fit this, today to my N=1 bicycle - A 2017 Domane that has Hydro flat mount 11 speed 105.
    Currently running it 46-30 with 11-32 cassette and this would take me touring over the lumpier stuff at home, and overseas when that's a thing again.

  • @hollycow123445
    @hollycow123445 3 роки тому

    Russ, you should check out a guy in Canada who makes adaptors for brakes and such. AS solutions. I bought an IS to flat mount adaptor so I could run GRX hydro brakes on my Vaya which has the same brake mount set up as your Crust (flat mount up front and IS in the rear). As far as I can tell this guy is the only one making this adaptor.

  • @wademt
    @wademt 3 роки тому

    I really like your channel man. Great work!
    I think this meets the factory need to bring wireless to lower price points. It can be mixed and matched to Force and Eagle for custom builds.
    I just finished building a custom bike for all around riding and touring. A Ritchey carbon Outback Breakaway with Force Wide AXS with a low 30/36 gear. Fitted with Paul Klamper brakes. Walking is my lower gear,since I walk/push about 2.5 MPH.
    My cockpit is Redshift. I have their aero bars, suspension stem, and control grips. Fitted to Salsa carbon 52cm cowchippers.
    My tour kit is Bedrock custom frame bag, Salsa handlebar roll. Bedrock Vishnu fork bags, and a Tailfin carbon AeroPack trunk.
    The thing you said about not liking to use electronics for electronics or something like that... I would get over that if I were you. I’ve set up my AXS to shift 3 gears per long hold, and shift sequential. So shifting lower goes from 2-2 to 1-3, and shifting higher is 1-8 to 2-7. It’s so nice to not have to think about it.
    I’m taking off to ride from Istanbul to Barcelona over the summer with this bike. I live in Bigfork btw.

    • @wademt
      @wademt 3 роки тому

      I’m presently in Torino, Italy, a little more than halfway along on my trip. I mailed my camping heat home in Kotor, Montenegro because hotels are cheap during covid, and showers are awesome in 40C weather.
      SRAM AXS is the bomb! I went down to the limestone deck in Zadar Croatia when I missed seeing a slight curb and smacked the rear mech hard. My 3 cog quit working right on both rings. But the easy micro adjustment made everything better than new. I have the 43/30 and 36-10 package. Super happy with more than 1,000 kms. Carry a 3rd battery.

  • @markhall445
    @markhall445 3 роки тому

    Not having a mechanical disk option and flat mount only hydraulic brakes is an absolute deal breaker for me. I almost stopped watching the review a second after that was mentioned. Thanks for the Review Russ. Really nice work.

    • @SteveFullerBikes
      @SteveFullerBikes 3 роки тому

      It's definitely not designed as an upgrade path for anything other than bikes made in the last two years or so. Just not the market they are aiming at

    • @markhall445
      @markhall445 3 роки тому

      @@SteveFullerBikes that’s about right. Rival AXS is totally an OEM group set. Sram tries to keep aftermarket sales and custom bike builders in mind but obviously choose not to this time.

    • @johnmeloy4667
      @johnmeloy4667 3 роки тому

      You could use Force AXS Shifters for mechanical brakes. The force mechanical shifters only cost $30 more than the Rival hydro shifters, and you also get blip shifter ports.

    • @markhall445
      @markhall445 3 роки тому

      @@johnmeloy4667 thanks for this. Didn’t realize the negligible price difference. I’ve put Force AXS mechanical on two gravel bikes and liked the result.

  • @shannonkeller8003
    @shannonkeller8003 3 роки тому

    Awesome review and E shifting is definitely getting closer to me wanting to try it. However, I get anxiety about busting an expensive derailer because I ride all my bikes like a 245 lb kid, jumping my carbon triathlon bike off of whatever looks fun! I’m also a little disappointed that the “existential wetness” wasn’t addressed.......

  • @TheGotoGeek
    @TheGotoGeek 3 роки тому +1

    You got to review the new AXS? Russ, you’ve hit the big time!

  • @gorillazfan1023
    @gorillazfan1023 3 роки тому

    Late 2019 I was looking to build a bike with mechanical GRX 1x and it seemed like that was around $1k so $1.2K ain't bad at all. Still probably won't ever go electronic unless it literally fell into my lap.

  • @slowwerthensnot
    @slowwerthensnot 3 роки тому

    Ebikes and etap, getting some high zoot stuff! Great video was really glad to see the 46x30 combo as well

  • @mikefox2924
    @mikefox2924 3 роки тому

    Mechanical breaks would make me want to go to this setup. I'm not sold on hydro's for gravel riding

  • @frenchbikewrench7451
    @frenchbikewrench7451 3 роки тому

    Given that Force AXS has a rimbrake option, you would assume there is a cable version in the pipeline. Or maybe it works with those wacky hydraulic rim callipers SRAM brought out a while back (although not much use for gravel) ?

  • @astro61362
    @astro61362 3 роки тому

    Interesting. I do like the no cable look.

  • @johnpark8637
    @johnpark8637 3 роки тому +1

    14 gear inches? is that possible to get on an off the rack touring bike? Trek, surly, fuji, Masi, all seem to only go as low as 20 gear inches?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      Old touring triples with an inner 24 tooth or mountain doubles with a 22t inner.

  • @erikjohnson6484
    @erikjohnson6484 3 роки тому +1

    My one issue with electronic shifting and with all things electronics. Is the proprietary batteries that company's insist to use for designed obsolescence. Basically forcing you to throw away or modify the product when they no longer make the battery packs. All in hope that you will buy the newer model. Which is a shame for such a cool tech id be interested in otherwise.

    • @SteveFullerBikes
      @SteveFullerBikes 3 роки тому

      The batteries used for the original eTap and eTap AXS are the interchangeable.

    • @erikjohnson6484
      @erikjohnson6484 3 роки тому

      @@SteveFullerBikes That's great until they choose to no longer support it. Which is silly when there is hundreds of standard cell size batteries they could of choose from. They do it to limit the products life to push future sales when sales of older product tappers off. Mark my words. Few years down the line they will come out with fTap ABC123 that has bios update for chain configs with a non backwards compatible battery. I'm the type of person that wants things to run into the ground from use and not when a company chooses it should.

  • @thecappy
    @thecappy 3 роки тому

    It's good to see Sram bringing this out. Maybe Shimano will make a 105 Di2. I upgraded to Grx di2 2x with 11-40 cassette, and that is about all I need for 15% hills.

    • @kbd13-n9c
      @kbd13-n9c 2 роки тому

      Shimano has recently said (very recently) they don’t plan on doing that unfortunately.

    • @panjacekrz
      @panjacekrz Рік тому

      @@kbd13-n9c heh just reading comments and I saw few minutes ago in other video that 105 got di2 ;)

  • @millermiller75
    @millermiller75 3 роки тому

    I’ve been waiting for a lower-tier electronic group set and think this is ideal. I hope they put it on some aluminum bikes and not just carbon.

  • @TimFitzwater
    @TimFitzwater 3 роки тому

    That gear range would work for me so it is interesting. My issue is more the other one you mention - flat mount hydros - having all the options would be nice. Group sets always cost more on their own so I will be interested to see the price when brands like All City are selling it. I’ll probably never have one but I think these will sell like hot cakes especially on completes. When do we get wireless Di2 105? 😘

  • @cheut
    @cheut 3 роки тому +1

    I need a Domane review! Ive been looking at getting one and id love to hear your thoughts

  • @youngmers
    @youngmers 3 роки тому

    you said that mechanical disk brakes are fine for gravel !! have them on my Kona libre and I think their shit.. not at all up to the job what type would you recommend? as it might save me some cash in the upgragde.

  • @shawnwakeman6324
    @shawnwakeman6324 3 роки тому

    Thank you for temporarily going full roadie. Your opinions and perspectives are much more valuable to me, and I suspect other humans, than the wash of reviews from race elitists.

  • @wong5150
    @wong5150 2 роки тому

    that rear derailleur delay is by design - the RD (brain) is waiting to see if you meant to hit both paddles to shift the front -

  • @JoshKablack
    @JoshKablack 3 роки тому +1

    At $1200 I have to ask if the optional app includes GPS tracking for when someone swipes it off your bike?

  • @mortenreippuertknudsen3576
    @mortenreippuertknudsen3576 3 роки тому

    Curious did you like the bike as a roadbike? The Atheos is one of the few carbon rodbikes on the marked that appeals to me (from reading about it).

  • @oldcrust4741
    @oldcrust4741 3 роки тому

    Great reality check -- thanks!

  • @realalbertan
    @realalbertan 3 роки тому

    Pair the rival derailleurs with the time trial blip box and choose your brakes

  • @Kab_On_The_Fly
    @Kab_On_The_Fly 3 роки тому

    After thorough research I've decided to do a Bombora build. What would I need to use this on a Bombora?

  • @dontspamkoth
    @dontspamkoth 3 роки тому

    Price is still a huge inhibition for partypace riding, but this is still a good review.

  • @billromano5844
    @billromano5844 3 роки тому

    Great review Russ! Here's a question that I don't understand about the SRAM AXS stuff: In regards to shifting from lo to hi or hi to lo with a double chainring setup, will the front derailleur shift automatically before you go into a cross chaining scenario or does the rider have control of where and when the front derailleur shifts? Is there a full automatic mode and a manual mode? If I wanted to completely cross chain the thing, will it let me?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      Yes you can cross chain it.

    • @juliantaylor1126
      @juliantaylor1126 3 роки тому +1

      So it doesnt have an auto mode where it will automatically shift the front chainring?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      @@juliantaylor1126 it does. I couldn't get it to work because the components were under embargo and weren't showing up in the app. But it should work now.

  • @Thomas-fk6ep
    @Thomas-fk6ep Рік тому

    Great review! Ty

  • @redpillcanucklofi
    @redpillcanucklofi 3 роки тому

    Great review...very indepth! This was like reading the manual but more fun :) Do people even read manuals anymore though...lol. Great job on your video :)

  • @SurpriseMeJT
    @SurpriseMeJT 3 роки тому

    Did Sram send you the bike to review, or did you request it?
    You should pair an Eagle AXS rear derailleur for the ultimate mullet. Me? I'm sticking with cables. The right triple group weighs less than this group and has way more range and lower gears.

  • @endianAphones
    @endianAphones 3 роки тому

    I'm just waiting for the Apex AXS shifters, and SX AXS derailleur.

  • @joeumbrell8774
    @joeumbrell8774 3 роки тому

    Nicely shot video. I'm a cheapass and will stick with my Microsoft Advent setup.

  • @AREMPEE
    @AREMPEE 3 роки тому

    Would you recommend this gs for gravel bike? I mostly, ride my gravel bike on road.

  • @Ray-dz9fn
    @Ray-dz9fn 3 роки тому

    For that price, does the Rohloff enter the picture with evenly distanced steps and wide range? Rohloff needs to create a new hub though that deals with thru-axle frames though, and the barrel shifter is rather clumsy.
    Russ, I think you mentioned a future Rohloff eval.

    • @markhall445
      @markhall445 3 роки тому

      We could wait a lifetime for real Rohloff updates. They have been teasing potential competitors for years and I expect we will see some good competition soon.

  • @brendonnoble5227
    @brendonnoble5227 3 роки тому

    Could you just buy the blips and the rear mech, so that you could use any type of brake/bar combo?

  • @softreset82
    @softreset82 3 роки тому

    Curious, are the hoods comfortable in that position? They look they would create a rather uncomfortable wrist angle.

  • @Kittyjesus503
    @Kittyjesus503 3 роки тому

    Mullet gearing no problem. Neat but I’m not going to run out and buy a group set. And I don’t like sram brakes as much as shimano. Personal preference.

  • @Mylittledistraktions
    @Mylittledistraktions 9 місяців тому

    Can you review the trek checkpoint 2021.

  • @cipher.u.justice
    @cipher.u.justice 3 роки тому

    Consolidation to disc brakes in the industry means no more mechanical brake options (even for discs), unfortunately. Biggest benefit to electronic is the day-to-day not having to ever worry about losing cable tension or tuning barrel adjusters every so often, just remember to check the batteries once a month. For the more reasonable people that won't buy at MSRP, electronic groups go for dead cheap if you buy them second hand individually, since all the hardcore roadies will sell the second they get it scratched the first time or the next generation comes out.

    • @gravgrav
      @gravgrav 3 роки тому

      I have always struggled to find used etap and AXS.

    • @cipher.u.justice
      @cipher.u.justice 3 роки тому

      @@gravgrav you're right the market is a little sparse atm, though there was a huge sell off of gen1 when AXS dropped; IME easier to pick up used Shimano Di2

    • @cccorlew
      @cccorlew 3 роки тому

      If you have a Gramin can pair with the group and report low batteries.

  • @2001MBKBooster
    @2001MBKBooster 3 роки тому +1

    Nice review again Russ!
    'm happy SRAM has come out with a less expensive AXS option. This should sell by the boatload, but I can't wait to see what Shimano will counter with.
    BTW. What bike were you riding? It looks really nice.

  • @philtomlinson8220
    @philtomlinson8220 3 роки тому

    Nice review, but i'd also like to know what you thought of the Domane?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      It’s a fun road bike and a not very good gravel bike.

  • @waynosfotos
    @waynosfotos 3 роки тому

    Maybe good for gravel applications, but pure road, it is to heavy and pricey for a mid tier groupset. The total cost of the bike is stepping into serious bike territory but not delivering on performance relating to weight..

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому

      Weight. You must have this confused with a roadie channel :)

    • @waynosfotos
      @waynosfotos 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV lol yes probably have, but it must be said, that this groupset is mostly and prodominently reviewed for road use, re-my comment.

  • @Massproduce201
    @Massproduce201 3 роки тому

    Welcome to the light side

  • @bobqzzi
    @bobqzzi 3 роки тому

    Well done review.

  • @TnFruit
    @TnFruit 3 роки тому

    What do you think of air liner?

  • @hogdog567
    @hogdog567 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Russ, just wondering if you’ve considered the gear ratio potential of Classified’s hub gear system? You could potentially run a super wide 1x system (if and when they make the cassettes) with the same ratios repeated at a 0.7 ratio! When you do the maths you can have a crazy wide spread of gear without worrying about whether the derraileur could cope.

  • @andrewabdelmalak6442
    @andrewabdelmalak6442 Рік тому

    Can you do a video on SRAM APEX AXS?

  • @dougcohenmiller
    @dougcohenmiller 3 роки тому

    Can you accidentally shift the bike next to you that is also running this system? What a hoot that would be!

  • @jp93309
    @jp93309 3 роки тому

    Feel a bit left out of the whole e-shifting movement. Maybe I’ll demo one to see what I’ve been missing.

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому

      It's novel. I still prefer the flexibility of mechanicals personally.

  • @mitchcoulter9681
    @mitchcoulter9681 3 роки тому

    What do I think about it? I don’t get it. Why? Why have wireless shifting? Really just seems like a weird flex.

  • @michaellofaso1351
    @michaellofaso1351 3 роки тому

    How do you like the domane? I started working for Trek a few months ago.

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +2

      It's a fun road bike, but not my favorite on mixed terrain. Climbs well and descends tarmac beautifully. Rode it with 32mm tires and it felt skittish on loose gravel. Biggest complaint is the proprietary seat mast. I actually couldn't get the seat low enough for me to ride comfortably. I had to use flats and wear Blundstones to try to get the bike to fit without feeling like I was getting kicked in the 'taint.

    • @michaellofaso1351
      @michaellofaso1351 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV oh yeah that's crazy annoying! Did you buy it? 30 return no questions asked! Everything is out of stock these days! Did you order it a while ago?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      @@michaellofaso1351 no it's a test bike for the groupset.

    • @michaellofaso1351
      @michaellofaso1351 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV holler. That's a hard bike to come by right now. Way to go!

  • @biking261
    @biking261 3 роки тому

    Russ with aero wheels, you have changed :-)
    On a serious note I would be interested on your thoughts of the Domane frame with the Isospeed inserts.

  • @dantdmjr.2990
    @dantdmjr.2990 3 роки тому

    Take of your head badge sticker!!!!

  • @jonathangapay1724
    @jonathangapay1724 3 роки тому +3

    Canyou pair that with the GX AXS in 2x with a big cassette and get a really wide range?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +2

      Don't know. That would be fun to try.

    • @swray2112
      @swray2112 3 роки тому +2

      GCN's review said it was completely interchangeable with their mountain electric shift groupsets, so with the mountain RD you could run a 10-46 rear cassette.

    • @jonathangapay1724
      @jonathangapay1724 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV Do. Or do not. There is no try. 🙂

    • @chw0112
      @chw0112 3 роки тому

      No, if you use the Eagle RD and cassette, you need the eagle chain. Eagle chain only works with 1x chainrings.

    • @jonathangapay1724
      @jonathangapay1724 3 роки тому

      @@chw0112 oh. 1x then.

  • @ronalcasid3844
    @ronalcasid3844 3 роки тому +1

    How do you like that Domane? Are you going to review it?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +3

      I can't get the seat mast low enough. Thats why flat pedals and Blundstones during the review and it still 'taint no fun. Great on the tarmac rough and sketchy on the grav grav with a loose surface.

    • @ronalcasid3844
      @ronalcasid3844 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV what size was the frame?

  • @kymcopyriot9776
    @kymcopyriot9776 3 роки тому

    Electro gears? Meh. I just had eyes on the little Domane. I’m no roadie but I was offered a Series 5 Carbon Domane awhile ago and I absolutely love it. A ‘supple’ road fitness bike!

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому

      Not a fan of the seatmast. Couldn’t get the saddle low enough.

  • @VeloViking
    @VeloViking 3 роки тому

    What about tire clearance at the front derailleur?

  • @nenadp7644
    @nenadp7644 3 роки тому

    We need to make flat pedals on road bikes a thing

  • @elibraverman9458
    @elibraverman9458 3 роки тому +1

    4:29 That head badge sticker still on has me dead. XD

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +2

      I don’t get to keep bikes and try to return them in decent shape.

  • @richbob594
    @richbob594 3 роки тому

    Big con. I have a 3 year old Red 22 etap group. The front derailleur died. There are no replacements out there and Sram has no plans to release any in the future. So when one part fails the whole group is junk.

  • @KurtisPape
    @KurtisPape 3 роки тому

    14 gear inches! Thats pretty much the easiest gear possible, that 28t chainring with 52t cassette.

  • @jonpoon3896
    @jonpoon3896 3 роки тому

    Maybe it’s just me, but in most cases, I don’t expect someone who wants cable disc brakes to want electronic shifting

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому

      I'd purchase an electronic shifting groupset that had cables. So would many others that don't want the hassle of dealing with toxic fluids spilling all over the place. Hydros for road are overrated IMO.

    • @jonpoon3896
      @jonpoon3896 3 роки тому +1

      @@PathLessPedaledTV I appreciate that some would want it. I just doubt there would be enough for SRAM to wanna make it

  • @andarenbici
    @andarenbici 3 роки тому

    Will you do a Domane review?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +2

      No. It uses a seat mast that I can't get low enough to actually ride for a long period.

    • @andarenbici
      @andarenbici 3 роки тому

      @@PathLessPedaledTV :-( The price of progress.

    • @alexlove2502
      @alexlove2502 3 роки тому

      Too bad the bike / seat post fit don’t allow for a full review of the bike. I’ve heard people say the Domane with wider tires is a decent option for the less gnarly gravel in my area, but it would have been great to get your perspective. Glad to get your thoughts on the new SRAM options, though.

  • @anderw2
    @anderw2 3 роки тому

    What do you mean by flat mount?

    • @PathLessPedaledTV
      @PathLessPedaledTV  3 роки тому +1

      The disc brake mount on your bike is either post mount or flat mount.

  • @stroudnick
    @stroudnick 3 роки тому

    This, just like the GX eagle group, is going to sell out immediately and be impossible to get! The GX upgrade group is already selling for $200 over MSRP on ebay ... Even with flat mount only option the shifters/calipers are still a pretty reasonable price when all is said and done. I'm going to be looking at a multet GX/Rival Axs group for gravel ... 10 years ago people would have said the same thing about hydo vs mech brakes for MTBs, just saying.