I don't think many people are going to accept this answer, it will not convince the unbelievers. It only serves to make God seem unjust. Here is my own explanation: Esau was the type of person who would trade his entire inheritence for a bowl of soup. He had no love for God, or his plans concerning their offspring. This is reminiscent of a man, who would trade all he can have in heaven, for temporary wealth here on earth. That the here and now, he loves more than the future. This is not the kind of man who God desires to lead his long term plans of a particular group of people. He hated him because Esau cared more for what he can gain from our physical world than what God could have planned for him
This is true because it actually says in the New Testament that we shouldn't be wicked like Esau who sold his descendants wellbeing for a bowl of soup. It was a very wicked thing to do because look now the Edomites became enemies of God because of Esau
Short answer: God does what He pleases, and is always just, and good. No matter how badly we want to say election is unjust, it isn’t and makes perfect sense in the mind of God, we must trust in Him because His ways are higher than our ways.
The answer is written in the gospel, Jesus names the God of the old testament beginning from genesis as the Pharisee or in other word, heads of state, a coucel of men.
All praises. The reign of Esau is wrapping up, judgment is already at hand, “first shall be last, last shall be first” Jacob is about to reign. Captivity for the wicked.
Don't you think it's interesting that Esau's reign was led by a small group of individuals born from the tribe of Yakov? Controlled opposition theology.
But why did God reject Esau? Wasn't it Jacob who swindled Esau out of his inheritance? Didn't their mother trick Isaac, while on his deathbed, into blessing Jacob instead of Esau by disguising Jacob as Esau? I'm still studying this, but it seems like Esau really got crapped on, which is disheartening because that would mean God does not love everyone.
Esau is edomites then amalek then agagalites then hamadanites then Macedonian then greek then rome the western europe. If you read the bible and relate till now with history of this people what does they have in common. Hate toward Israelites and always fighting th out of envy and are despicable people. For the things western europe has done to africa and other part of globe. If your God what will you say.😂😂😂for the pain they causes a lot of people for their selfish reasons what do you say.
Esau I hate is a prophency on ezekiel 35 God give reasons for destroying edomites- western europe cause in book of obadiah edom is a group of nations"edomites nations" will be destroyed on end times prophency I dont know why christians neglect ezekiel 35-36 and concentrate on rapture + other prophencies.
I'm guessing it was all God's plan, as Jacob, the more devout of the two, was the one more worthy of the inheritance, as even Isaac nonchalantly acknowledged, after all was said and done, that it must've been God's will, as he witnessed Jacob deceptively obtain the blessing from Isaac, and did not intervene.
@@elliecelestee why then do he flaunt his power and felt so sure he could destroy Jacob and his descendants, and another part of scripture it says that he represents the end of the world and Jacob the new, and marks the second coming of Christ, when Christ returns he’s going to make a new earth and heaven, after the thousand year reign. If esau marks the end of the world he parallels satan while Jacob parallels Jesus the Christ. When god says to turn your back to the world when the world turns its back on u, what do u think all these verses mean? And if it isn’t this where in the scripture does it say otherwise
Jacob is not the chosen one. If one read the Bible they can understand. Revelation 2:9 is exposing descendants of Jacob. They are pretending to be Jews but they are not.
God hated Esau from the womb Jacob and Esau are twins they faught in the womb God spoke to their mother and said she will give birth to many nations! Esau means hairy Esau came out red skin and hairy if you think of Esau’s decedents today they are Turned red by the almightY SUN and hairy men from the Russian Caucasus mountains , Roman , Asians , and Arab …..can’t argue Gods words that he declared and decreed!!! Esau’s decedents have many of his traits….. God hated Esau because he was Ungodly , did everything against Yahweh, was vain , greedy , and down right evil !
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Hey you know I love how you know my Bible better than me! I'm a Jewish believer, well Messianic Jew (Christian Jew if you will) and it brings me joy seeing Christians loving God so much and it's wonderful to see Jesus everywhere in the OT. Man do I wait to see you in heaven one day and share testimonies. Love from Israel!
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food. Jacob was willing to do anything to keep the covenant and so if God had let such a man as Esau throw it away, God would have broken his word with Abraham.
I’ve learned over the years that sometimes there are no answers. Not entirely. God is God and he owes us no explanation. We think we need explanations on things but God can do what God wants to do. He gives so much.
Scripture: Acts 10:34-43 (NRSV) Then Peter began to speak to them: "1 truly understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. God chose Jacob over Esu because Esu never desired the lord, even his descendants after him didn't believe God or seek after him. His brother Jacob and his descendants did seek the Lord. They feared him and and did what was right due to this they were accepted. Jacob sought after God and was more responsible than Esu, Esu was more laid back and lazy wanting earthly things. God chose Jacob because he wanted someone who would lead his nation righteously seeking him.
This god misinterprates everything as he wants, in my life i see everyday that most evil, sadistic, sociopaths are given happy life, and most compassionate ppl are being tortured every day, i am not going to accept his judgement, even if he will make me suffer even more than i am right now, i am person who respect truth, compassion, miracles and nothing more, and this sad, abusive, imperialistic being calling himself god didn't show me sht of this 3 things, i will never accept him.
This passage has to do with Jacob being preeminent over Esau in terms of service. “The elder shall serve the younger.” It doesn’t mean God actually hated Esau. It was a cultural and Hebrew idiom speaking of preeminence. Romans 9 is not about God loving only select people and only saving them and condemning the rest of mankind before they were born. That’s an entirely misinterpretation of Romans 9. Jesus used the idiom in the same way. He said unless you hate your parents you cannot be my disciples. Obviously he didn’t mean to hate your parents. What He meant was that He must be preeminent; even over our own parents.
The same indignation Esau had towards Jacob is the same indignation the most high holds against Esau...... Esau's descendants had a perpetual hatred.... When coming out of Egypt, Esau denied the Israelites passage through their land and met them with violence.... The amalekites....who is Also the descendants of Esau waged war against them crossing Jordan.... Thats strike 2..... The last and final straw for Esau/Edom was assisting king Nebuchadnezzar in the destruction of Jerusalem in 580bc..... Esau stole many of the treasures from temples and any fleeing Israelite they captured and turned over to the Babylonians...... Esau showed he could not forgive therefore the father has an everlasting indignation towards them..... Esau's descendants are today's Caucasians..... According to Esau's blessings, he'd dwell in the best places on earth and would obtain them through war...... The racism that exists in America has nothing to do with skin color, the negros of America are the lost tribes of Israel while the Caucasian race comes from Esau...... That same unreasonable hatred still lives his descendants hearts....... Pay attention to the prophecy and blessings of Esau and you can easily spot him...... Whatever people/culture they've encountered throughout history, they've assumed their identity..... Removing their guilt trying to hide amongst other nations....... Before you respond to my comment, note that are other Caucasians who have confessed to the negroes of America to be the lost tribe of Judah..... And the very reasoning for enslaving Judah was apart of their punishment for disobedience against God...... The catch 22 is, our enslavers would be that of Esau...... So again the racism in America isn't about skin color but an ancient siblings rivalry that's still happening today.
You tell them brother he said because he wasn't chosen lies this is why black people can't trust them never know which one you can or can not so don't trust any of them
Yes he was wicked from birth he even stole who came out of the womb first. When God talks about Esau he's talking about the heart of men. This was a wonderful breakdown. Thank you.
But let's remember when Esau was born he was called red which was the implication of his color of skin which was white and it turned red. And Jacob was black so color does have quite a bit to do with it in the long run. It was the thing that was used to weaponize why they could behave the way they did. So you cannot take that out of content either. But great breakdown
@BrownieMiyamoto 😅that's literally the entire story of your race from the beginning of time. A people who were born so insecure you had to go around the world colonizing & terrorizing to prove some false sense of superiority when the truth is without weapons & arms to wage warfare there's nothing superior about you at all. Projection, Denial, & Deflection, & lying is your strong suit.
I'm baffled by the sheer lack of knowledge in the body of Christ. All that scripture simply means is that the Messiah would come through Jacob. Jacob was the one who believed the gospel, so it was he who continued in the prophetic office of Isaac.
@@tylerbuck9347 no such thing as freewill. And show me in the Bible were it says that Yah hated Esau because of sins that he would commit in the future 😂😂.
BECAUSE GOD READS HEART AND KNOWS WHAT IS IN THEIR HEARTS. GOD HAS CREATED ESAUL AND JACOB ; HE KNOWS FROM THE BIGINNING WHAT IS STORE IN THEIR HEARTS. HE NEW THAT JACOB WAS A QUIET MAN AND ESAU WAS A TROUBLE MAKER, ONTIL TODAY. HAVE A NICE DAY AND SHARED.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
2 Esdras 6:9 [9]For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth. Job 9:24 [24] The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Job 11:20 [20]But the eyes of the wicked shall fail, and they shall not escape, and their hope shall be as the giving up of the ghost. 'No hope for Esau.'
God hated Esau not because He hated the person but his attitude and character there’s nothing left inside Esau, he’s will was far from God. He is the biblical example of Carnality (not only chasing after worldly things) but biblically means: choosing something that is temporary over something that is eternal… The context spoke about the culture and their values, 👉 Genesis 25:29-34 Exchanging birthright, he was taking granted of that birthright - At the time Birthright represent inheritance and salvation, In our time now Birthright is the Holy-Spirit and Salvation & it very serious before God.
How could God hate Esau for his attitude when the Book of Romans makes it clear that before Esau had even been born or had done anything wrong, God had already hated him as the following passage shows: [Romans 9:11-13 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”] It's all about God’s grand plan for the salvation of the human race. God is a master strategist, planning end time events from the very beginning.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
why not gather wealth and blessings by being deceptive just like Jacob , cheat your way to the top the end justifies the means , that's basically what we learned from this story.
TIME IS SHORT. YOU AREN'T GOD'S WARRIOR. I'M WARNING YOU LEARN OF GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY AND HOLINESS❤HIS ELECTION IS IMMUTABLE. IT MATTERS NOT AN OUNCE HOW JACOB OBTAINED POSITION OVER ESAU IT WAS ORDAINED BY GOD ❤
Yes, it seems that way but we are taught not to form judgements based on what we see - have faith ( which is our confidence and hope) that God is good. Therefore, His ways, that are higher than ours, is also good even if we don't currently understand. At the end of Genesis 26 we see this: "When Esau was forty years old, he took Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite to be his wife, and Basemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and they made life bitter for Isaac and Rebekah". Maybe we can say that because of Esau's wicked ways, especially towards his parents who he should have honored, God was making a way to bring justice towards Esau by changing his destiny for the good of Issac and future Israelites. But who knows.... I trust God.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Romans nine is all about salvation, and he’s using how he loves Jacob and hated Esau. And yes, he chose one man to bring about his purposes and make a nation out of him. Jacob is the one that was saved and Esau was the one who was damed to hell and at the end, Paul says it’s not man who wills or desires but it’s God who shows mercy that is the deciding factor of a man getting saved.
The TEXT plainly says "According to God's Purpose in Election". Read the text. Most explanations are found in the TEXT. It's NOT hard to find the answers. It only BECOMES hard when we RESIST THE SIMPLE TRUTHS of God's Word.
God already knew what kind of character Esau had even before he was born. If God had chosen Esau to get blessed, then God's purpose of reconciling human to Him would not have occured past forward to Jesus Christ's mission to redeem those who are with faith. Esau was not walking in God's way. Esau would have already wiped out Jacob's descendants or kill Jacob before he could even have produced. Blessing is important because it means God's protection covers the blessed. God sees the future. He knew what was in Esau's mind and what kind of person he would be. God didn't tell Esau to do evil. Esau made his own choice.
How was Esau evil?? Jacob & his mother conspired against Esau. Esau was told by his father to go into the wilderness to kill a deer so he could eat savory meat one last time. Esau did as his father asked as the dutiful son. Jacob & his mother both lied to Isaac. Premeditated lies so that Isaac would give the inheritance & birthright to Jacob when Isaac intended to give it to Esau. Much later after Jacob’s time with Laban when Esau wanted to meet his brother Jacob was an absolute coward. Esau could have killed his brother and everyone in his brother’s party. Instead Esau embraced Jacob and hugged him. When Jacob (feeling ashamed) offered Esau some of his wealth Esau said I have enough. I ask you, where is the evil of Esau? Esau was the better man , despite NOT being “God’s chosen”. Esau dutifully worked for his father and was a good son. His only sin in his parents eyes was marrying a woman they disagreed with . Esau had calloused rough hands of a man well aquatinted with hard work. Jacob had the soft hands of a schemer & liar. A true judge of a man is his actions. Esau was the better man. He even followed God’s rules despite his own family’s evil.
Why does he create people he hates? Seems sadistic to me. Like a man who wants to become father, impregnates a woman just to torture and mistreat the son or daughter. But i guess there is a deeper truth: Judaism is a religion invented by Jews and therefore contradictory. Continuations of it: Christianity and Islam are even more contradictory becaue it becomes not better as further as you continue it.
I can't say it makes sense to me but then I'm not exactly Albert Einstein, either. What I can say is that I have (REGRETTABLY!) greatly sinned during my time in this world, and while The Lord has for sure been brutal at times when I deserved it, He has also been AMAZINGLY merciful towards me as well!!! So, the bottom-line is that Jesus is the absolute *Gold Standard* for all things good. Thus, one can rightfully assume that He for sure does everything with goodness and fairness, even if sometimes it can be a little hard to understand from our human perspective. (When we meet him on the other side, I strongly suspect He'll make things clear for us with no problem the answers to our questions.)🙂💛🧡💖💝
@@mavecolby7562 esua come out red and hairy ask urself what people on the earth are red , and jacob looked like the people of that region brown Israelite as discribe in the Bible are black on to the ground. One of your 4 fathers Willie lynch us the tactic of turning the light skin Israelite against the darker because the true jews are black .Alittle history for ya
Jacob is the so called african americans, native indians and hispanics. Esau is the mountain dwellers it says in the bible, which means the Caucasian. The reign of the white man is just about over. You have inherited lies and Gods wrath will be felt. @@mavecolby7562
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Justice is what we earn, but Grace and Mercy are things that we have not earned and can only be given, if God were to give us justice we’ve all earned death and hell but through Gods Grace and Mercy in Christ Jesus we get Salvation, Forgiveness, and Eternal life… learned that from R.C Sproul
GOD didn't like Esau heart ...look at the world since easu run it. All bad. You notice easu only prosper when blacks are treated right. ......but his pride want let him believe Jacob is the heir to.the throne. ....that why.white people hate us. But they hold on to they white pride. Meaning they think purity means skin. But that only to make themselves feel better. Hate is real
But shouldn't Jacob have helped his brother, who was in such dire need that he would trade his birthright? Jacob took advantage of his starving brother.
@@BlckCloud73 No because Jacob was conceived before Esau. Esau threaten to kill their mother if he couldn't come out her womb first. They removed that story from the bible. Its in the legend of the Jews and in some other ancient text.
Yeah and he kinda got punished for it. His father in law / uncle deceived him when he gave him Leah to marry instead of Rachel whom he loved. He deceived and got deceived as well.
*1 corinthians 12:13* For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
God doesn't hate anyone, but in the comparative sense he preferred Esau less. Just like when Jesus said you must love him but hate mother and father and such in comparison to him.
Because the jewish god is a jewish invention. And jews are not the chosen race but normal people like anybody else. Judaism, Christianity and Islam make no sense. Abraham already was a maniac.
You know, it’s funny how everybody gets mad at God for choosing Jacob, but every ancient family honored the older brother. Every second child was always “hated” or “not chosen”. All God did was reverse the order and make a point… which we all seem to miss… God chooses and uses those who He decides. The first born son was automatically chosen, and given the blessing, does that mean every parent hated their second child? Does that mean God hated every second born boy? And all daughters? Why aren’t we asking why the first child is always chosen automatically in ancient culture without any regard for how they acted or what they did? Instead of God, coming out being a liberator of the second born (underdog,) child, He’s the bad guy….
@@christforteens_fromateen6190 OK? HE KNOWS WHO'S GONNA ACCEPT HIM & HE REALLY WOULD LOVE EVERYONE TOO. THE FLIP SIDE... HE ALSO KNOWS WHO'S NOT. WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FREEWILL. NOW... ONCE WE CHOSE TO FOLLOW HIM OUR ( WORLDLY / FLESH ) FREEWILL BECOMES VERY LIMITED BECAUSE WE ALLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TAKE OVER & WE BECOME LESS. MORE SPIRIT, LESS FLESH. THAT MEANS... HIS CHILDREN FLOURISH IN HIS GUIDANCE TO BECOME CHRIST-LIKE. I TRUELY BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE ( TRUE ) Q IN LIFE? "WHO DO YOU SERVE?" ONCE YOU CHOSE GOD... IT'S A DONE DEAL. I KNOW THAT ONCE YOU DO YOU CAN'T BREAK THAT BOND... BECAUSE HIS ( TRUE ) CHILDREN COULDN'T EVEN STOMACH IT. BUT HEY... THAT'S JUST ME.
Wrong… God knows their heart even before the creation of the world. He doesn’t remove their free will. He simply chooses those who love Him and want to do His will.
I'm 16, I've read this entire scenario and I STILL feel bad for Esau. I absolutely do not respect Jacob at all for what he did and the fact that Esau apologized to Jacob infuriated me. Jacob is manipulative and while he gave his his birthright as the firstborn, if we're being honest, he was young and easily manipulated. After I read this, I put down the Bible for a bit and was just very confused on why Jacob received was blessed. I still love God and will pick up the Bible soon, but this entire chapter just left me so mad. Esau did nothing wrong, yet was shown to have the greatest character as he even apologized to his brother after.
Remember, history is recorded accurately in the Bible, the good, the bad, and the ugly truths are there. When people failed to act righteously, like David and Bathsheba, the Bible records that history as a lesson to us all that everyone can make wrong sinful choices. Jacob’s past deceitfulness is not hidden from us, it’s recorded for all to know the truth of how God can turn any of our stories around. Check out this article for more: www.gotquestions.org/life-Jacob.html
We must also remember Luke 14:26, "“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." Jesus isn't talking about hatred that leads to murder which He Himself condemns (Mathew 5:21-22, see also 1 John 3:15) but it is the kind of hatred to be thought less than or for not giving a lot of attention or thought to something or someone else compared to another. For example in Deuteronomy 21:15 speaks "If a man has two wives, one loved and the other unloved, and they have borne him children, both the loved and the unloved, and if the firstborn son is of her who is unloved," and also Jacob loving Rachel but "hating" Leah. In conclusion, this is the "kind" of hatred God doesn't condemn. It is just.
Obadiah 1:9 “And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.” Obadiah 1:10 “For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.” Obadiah 1:18 “And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.” Ezekiel 25:14 “And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD.” Yahawah HATES Esau-Edom period.
It always amazed at how Euro-Americans Christians always give their people a cockeyed explanation of The Bible! Thanks to the real woke people of Israel, we all use the Precept upon Precept and true biblical history to correct those who are awake! Halleluyah!
I am no one to criticize God or his works as I am barely even capable of comprehending them and please do not take my questioning and lack of understanding as criticism but rather expression of my lack of understanding seeking after God's will and character. That said, I do not understand why a man who practices deception against his own brother and at the request of his mother lies to his own father on his death bed would be preferred by God. I also do not understand why people are so quick to take pride in their flesh and judge even their own brothers whom are no worse and no better than them as we all have fallen short and need God's redemption through his Son Jesus. There is so much I do not understand, but I know God is good as sure as I know water is wet and so above all else let God's will be done.
Is it possible that God hated Esau because of how he reacted? He was vengeful, murderous, disobedient etc. another thing yall seem to miss is Esau was well taken care of, even rejecting Jacobs gifts because he was so blessed. Just because Esau's promise wasn't as good as Jacobs his purpose was still fulfilled when he became an enemy of Israel.
This is basically what European colonizers did to brown skinned native Americans. Take their property and culture then tell them "pull yourself up by the bootstraps"
@@BlckCloud73I don't get it either. Rebekah Isaac & Esu's mother aided in the deceit. Shouldn't be the other way around. Is it because he was to hairy?
@@BlckCloud73 , whole Judaism is a jewish invented religion with jewish propaganda. Of course they portray god and their ancestor as superior. Torah and Bible are full of contradictions. Christianity and Islam the continuations of Judaism are without sense too. If people want to follow any religion it should be their ancestral religion.
God was speaking about the nations within the womb. Esau represented one nation and Jacob represented God's people. God predestined people for purposes not for salvation.
Short and sweet and to the point. But really just WHY would God love one and hate the other in the same womb? Now for something totally different. It has to do with the ' seed wars ' , that is, the seed of the woman versus the seed of the serpent. In Genesis 3: 15 God promises there will come a Messiah from the 'seed of the woman ' to make things right and open a way for mankind to still dwell with God. God also mentions that there will be an adversary, the ' seed of the serpent ' to thwart the coming of this Messiah. In Genesis 6 the seed of the serpent is introduced to the world through the Watcher angels falling from their first estate of being heavenly angels capable of going from angelic spiritual state to temporary human - like state in their assistance to men of earth, to taking on the human flesh form permanently in order to have relations with women of earth and produce children. Their seed contaminated the bloodline of every last person on earth except Noah, his wife, and his three sons. Before the flood waters killed all the contaminated people - contaminated with the ' seed of the serpent ' - the sons had to find wives of the contaminated people and find the purest possible to repopulate after the flood. Ham' s wife was obviously most heavy carrier of the ' bad seed ' ( quite possibly on purpose by Ham ) and the evil Canaanites came from Ham. Shem's wife was most pure although not perfect as a tiny, recessive gene came through and surfaced in the person of Esau. Esau was a hairy, red - haired, hairy like an animal, type of person. Esau was just like a red - haired giant Canaanite although he was not a real Canaanite but rather from the Nephilim bloodline from before the flood through the wife of Shem. Canaanites were from Nephilim bloodline from before the flood through the wife of Ham. It is my belief that the small amount of recessive DNA hiding in the lineage of Shem came to the surface in the fashion of one half of a set of fraternal twins. That is to say Rebecca carried both the ' seed of the woman ' and the ' seed of the serpent ' in her womb at the same time. THAT IS WHY when Esau came out first and was slated to be the bearer of the birthright which also involved being the carrier of the lineage to the Messiah that every effort was made to not let that happen. The bloodline to the Messiah had to be pure and if Esau had been in the lineage then the Messiah would not be able to be a Messiah. AND that is why God would ' love ' Jacob and ' hate ' Esau. Jacob was the legitimate bearer of the pure lineage of the ' seed of woman ' from Eve and Esau was the carrier of the evil ' seed of the serpent ' from Genesis 6. Esau then went on to marry Canaanite princess ( doesn't mean she was pretty, might have been as hairy as he was ) Which would mean that the Edomites were mostly a combination of evil blood carried over from before the flood from two different lineages, from two different wives of Noah's family. And that is most likely why they don't really exist today.
All this talk about Esau being the evil carrier of the bloodline of the serpent might make for interesting reading but at best this is just the imagination of the writer. Let us not let our imaginations guide us in interpreting scripture. If God has not revealed some issue or if we do not know, it is better to stay away from.personal opinions on biblical issues. Just some brotherly advice.
@@thewicktrimmer9089 a lot of people have trouble with the whole ' Genesis 6 ' scenario and I have been trying to follow every possible avenue that Ines up at all with scripture. Besides, isn't that the question posed with this video? Just trying to find every possible answer.
@@michaelszczys8316 Point understood. I will also study this issue in more detail and ask God for wisdom to understand his real reasons for hating Esau. I am confident that the Holy Spirit will provide the enlightenment and when he does, I will also share what I would have learnt. I admit that the Bible is no easy Book.
@@thewicktrimmer9089 studying that subject a lot it got to my curiosity on just how Esau was apparently so ' physically' different. It got me thinking. Total speculation mind you.
@@michaelszczys8316 When you read Revelation 12 and you discover that the dragon or devil has a scarlet or red color ( Revelation 12:3 and 17:3) then you understand why God had to hate Esau who had the same red or scarlet colour ( Genesis 25:25). This is because from the point of conception in the womb of Rebecca, Esau was destined to be a spiritual child of the serpent whose sole aim was to destroy God's chosen people. So of course God needed to hate him because he represents the physical manifestation of Satan here on earth, with his desire to destroy anything that came out of Jacob (Remember Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, Esther 9:24) You might also recall what Esau vowed after he was tricked by Jacob. [Genesis 27:41 Esau held a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing his father had given him. He said to himself, “The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob.”] Only a child of the serpent can deliberately plan to kill his own brother. That's what Jesus meant by the expression, [Mark 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.] The Bible is the most fascinating of all books ever written.
God works through the free choices, both good and bad, of human moral agents to accomplish his purposes. Unfortunately we often don’t give God good choices to work with, and that seems to be what happened in this case.
Sir, God is love but he does hate sinners (Psalm 5:5, Psalm 11:5). He only loves his elect and hates the rest with a holy hatred. All are sinners who are deserving of wrath. Romans 9 does have to do with emotions, not just nations. Study the entire Bible, buddy.
` Holy Hatred ' , where do You Read that in The Bible ? There's no Such a Holy Hatred In The Bible , dont Push your Human Concepts in the Bible just to Prove Your Belief.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Well, the lineage of Esau when you read the Bible, it talks about Dukes of this in Duke Duke. I’m pretty sure they’re talking about the Caucasian race because he still had a line just like Jacob had. Lineage
How are caucasians the lineage of Esau? According to a lot of pro-blacks, everybody back then was black until Esau came along. If Esau's parents and twin brother were black, how was he white? Even if he were albino, he still had black DNA, facial features, and kinky hair. And he had 3 to 6 wives. If his wives were black (or at least colored....definitely not white), then how could his offspring be white? And if his offspring went out and had children with blacks or at least colored people, how could Esau's grandchildren be white? As the lineage went further, Esau's offspring got blacker and blacker or more and more colored (if indeed Esau was the first white). When did Esau's lineage all of a sudden started becoming white? King David must have been part of Esau's lineage and white also. 1 Samuel 16:12 and 17:42 says that David was ruddy (which is red) and even says that David had a fair countenance.
AND I HATED ESAU AND LAID HIS MOUNTAIN WASTE FOR THE DRAGONS OF THE WILDERNESS. SURE SOUND LIKE THE ALMIGHTY GOD MEANT HE HATED ESAU AND ALL OF HIS OFFSPRING. "GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
It sounds like Esau's service was rejected by Jacob and his people. Jacob was in fear of Esau because of his own behavior. Esau got over it and was glad to see Jacob. I wonder how Adam felt about the Shining One (snake) after he tilled the soil and created the Garden of Eden, a promised land, a heavenly home, the new heaven and new earth, before settling east of Eden? Perhaps that someone was in need of salvation? He probably knew it was time to settle east of Eden when he took a bite. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO) The earth was barren, with no shrub of the field and, as yet, no man to till the soil. Adam tilled the soil and prepared the Garden of Eden, a promised land, a heavenly home, a new heaven and new earth, according to the plan of his Father, and then he settled east of Eden and has tilled and cultivated the earth ever since. I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB) Light and vegetation are created before the sun and moon because the story is about the new heaven and new earth. Yahweh is the light and Adam, the Christ, is the lamp. Your creation story is when, in the beginning, Adam found you in a wasteland, (Gen 1:2 NABO), empty, and void of understanding, your having become corrupted by sin, and he shielded you as the apple of his eye. (Deu 32:10 NABO) The Son of David rules from David's throne and over his kingdom. Yet, the Son of David is also the root of David. The older, serving the younger. The only begotten Son of David according to the spirit. The Lord God will give him the throne of David his Father (Luk 1:32 NABO) Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO) Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father (1Co 15:24 NABO) The Son himself will (also) be subjected to the “One” who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all. (1Co 15:28 NABO) ---------------------------------------------------------- Adam, the Christ, is a third-party mediator to this world and these heavens between you and your Father. In this version of the story, Jacob is seated at the table and Esau, the first-born serves him. For who is greater: the one seated at table or the one who serves? Is it not the one seated at table? I am among you as the one who serves. (Luk 22:27 NABO) Esau, the firstborn, lives by the sword (sacrifice) and serves his brother, Jacob, who was born gripping (striking at) his heel. Isaac blessed Esau saying: Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO) You will not always have me (Mat 26:11 NABO) I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB) My kingdom does not belong to this world. (Joh 18:36 NABO) Where I am going you cannot come. (Joh 8:21 NABO) Then I took my staff "Refuge" and snapped it asunder, breaking off the covenant which I had made with all peoples (Noahic covenant) (Zec 11:10 NABO) Then I snapped asunder my other staff, "Heritage" (Deu 32:8) breaking off my brotherhood with (or between?) Judah and Israel. (Zec 11:14 NABO) the one who ascended far above all the heavens themselves (Eph 4:10 NABO) never to return to corruption (Act 13:34 NABO) "By your sword (sacrifice) you shall live, and your brother you shall serve; But when you become restive (weak; faint; infirm; a worm; man of suffering; restless; wanderer in the desert; way of the Lord in the desert), you shall throw off his yoke from your neck." (Gen 27:40 NABO) Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau! (Gen 32:12 NABO) Esau ran to meet him, embraced him, and flinging himself on his neck, kissed him as he wept. (Gen 33:4 NABO) Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light. (Mat 11:29-30 NABO) --------------------------------------------------- Adam was without sin. The sin of Adam is prophetic of the sacrifice, when he wields the fiery sword guarding the way to the Tree of Life on the day of vengeance AS judgment, setting up the abomination of desolation in him, as the Temple without one stone left standing upon another. By his sacrifice, he justifies David when he speaks and, at his resurrection, he vindicates him in his sentence. The hand of (Yahweh/ David) is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. (Isa 59:1 NABO) David, the Morning Star, is the Light of the world and the Son of David is the Lamp of the Light of the Father. ----------------------------------------------- What is Christianity about? I hear a lot of hate speech. I'm a Bible person. The Bible, and this earthly creation, is about the salvation of those who became corrupted by sin. Corruption by sin appears to be a part of the fabric of the universe. Yahweh is the God of metallurgy. The gates of the nether world (Abyss/ Death) will not prevail against his Everlasting Lake of Fire and Brimstone (sulfur) where you will be smelted and refined, have your dross removed and be purified. There, you will be tormented or, tested for purity by questioning. Tormented: 1) to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the color of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal 2) to question by applying torture Just as silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin are gathered into a furnace and smelted in the roaring flames, so I will gather you together in my furious wrath, put you in, and smelt you. (Eze 22:20 NABO)
2:48, but in the case of Sara God instructed her to wait & trust on him for this favored son. Since she disobeyed, then why did God punish Ismail for her faults? And in the case of Jacob & Esau why then did God use Rebecca & Jacob to "Steal" the birth right instead of just handing it over to Jacob right from the beginning ? That seems a crooked way to teach a moral lesson?
God Loved Esau and Hated Jacob! Proven by the current State of Isn'tRael. The State of Isn'tRael ain't Israelite as the Israelites were sent into Diaspora by God because they are bad! The Edomites are God's Chosen and the land the State of Isn'tRael is the land God promised to Esau. Next proof are the laws of the State of Isn'tRael. They closely resemble the Code of Cana'an law of Vatican curia's council of Cana'an. God also loved the Cana'anites but not as much as the Edomites (Genesis 36:2)
Although this answer given by the speaker was thought out I believe in good or educational intentions, it is not the answer nor a good interpretation of these verses. A better and more accurate answer of this passage was very plain and simple but a mystery to those not given eyes to see or ears to hear. God loved one and hated the other! Even more so it even explains in a human understanding in Romans: 9 verse 13 It's predestination, election, love & hate. It means that before the foundation of the world God the Father gave God the Son a remnant of people or saints that SHALL be saved, preserved. And the "neither doing any good or evil" part was a way to explain that none of your filthy works will get you to heaven. Also that it was God that did the picking, God that did the dying, and God that did the saving for whom he loved. So the passage means God loved or saved Jacob, and God hated or damned Esau from the foundation of the world with neither of them having done anything good or evil. Yes it does later talk about the different family lineage and God's grace but still the same thing. Why did He love one family lineage and not the other? For the same reason or answer: He loved 1 and hated the other for no other reason than that's what He wanted to do. He's God and whatever He does is good snd right even if You, I, or anyone else thinks that it isn't fair or right.
Wrong!!! God hated Esau because he sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of soup!!! God spoke to Abraham and promised that he will be the father of a multitude of nations (Gen 17). Esau and Jacob were 15 years old before Abraham died (Gen 25). Then, God also spoke to Isaac (Abraham’s firstborn) and promised him that through “your seed all nations of the earth will be blessed ( Gen 26).” Isaac wanted to bless Esau- his firstborn- before he dies to confer the blessing as the firstborn and as promised by God (Gen 27) who said to him “through your seed all nations of the earth will be blessed”. But unknown to Isaac, Jacob along with his mother tricked Isaac. Jacob and his mother believed the promise God told Abraham and Isaac but not Esau. The seed that will eventually come was Jesus Christ. Thus Abraham, Isaac, Rebeccah, and Jacob believed but Esau did not. In fact, Esau dishonored Isaac and Rebeccah by marrying two Canaanites displeasing his parents. Thus God hated Esau for rejecting and disbelieveing “the seed” that He promised to Abraham and Isaac through which His Son Jesus would eventually come for a bowl of soup!!!! Yes, Esau would serve the younger as spoken of by God to Rebeccah but that is not why God hated Esau. The servant role of Esau was a statement of his condition after rejecting God’s promise. In fact God cursed Edom - the descendants of Esau- for they have become violent and unwilling to let Isarelites pass through their land in their journey to Canaan and worse fought against them!!!! Everytime hate is mentioned in the Scripture refers solely to wickedness done against God, His nature or against His laws. Thus God hating Esau meant that Esau did something wicked before God. The reference of hating father and mother and self in Luke 14:26 refers to wickedness in man that keeps him from being a disciple of Jesus. Hating a brother in other texts is an evil condition of the heart of the one hating and therefore since God does not have an evil heart, when God hated Esau it was because Esau did evil in God’s eyes by rejecting the promise.
@@jacksonrelaxin3425 God is not a name. Its a title meaning something worshipped; a deity. 1 corinthians 8:5 ““For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)” Psalms 96:4-5 “For the LORD is great, and greatly to be praised: He is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols: But the LORD made the heavens.” Maybe you ought to be more zealous so you can actually know the name of the God your following. He is also called “The Lord” but King David is also called “Lord” by his subjects in 1&2 Samuels. Its like calling him “The president” a true saying. But not a name. Ironically him saying “The most high” is more concise and clear than you saying God. We know he’s talking about the highest of all powers but what “God” are you speaking of?
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
I was taught the Hebrew of that word is not actually "hate". It's more closer to God "loved him less." Can someone that knows Hebrew well please clarify... ?
It's hyperbole like "Unless you hate father and mother you cannot be my disciples." God was getting ready to harden Israel for their rejection of their Messiah and it was Israel who was crying out about "Why did you make me this way?" It's not about us and reading ourselves into Romans 9 in Narcissigesis.
That seems like giving god an easy out. It's literal personal hatred if you go back to the Hebrew. It's also a direct contradiction to John 3:16. It's why I renounced it all. Bad contradictory shit show.
@@johnloftin2461 saying that's giving God an easy way out, is not an actual rebuttal for the explanation. You're just trying to justify it having to be a contradiction
@@quantumfrost9467 you set your theology on nuance and word games. That's giving god an easy out. The church castrated god long ago in America. Everyone insists upon how he must be so loving, despite what that book says and despite what happens in the world. I don't have to come up with more contradictions for christianity because the church gives god an easy out on that as well. Just think how cheap you guys really sell your souls. I bet there isn't one thing in your life you don't see the goodness of god. Christianity is a religion of convienience, that's why cheap and shallow answers to biblical problems. I'm not justifying anything, just calling christianity a first rate debacle. But if you want contradictions, they are there. Example: Please explain the death of King Saul. How did he die and how do you reconcile the 2 differing accounts? (they give god an easy out on this one too). If you want deeper theological stuff, JOhn 3:16 vs most of Romans 9 specifically regarding Esau. I know the orthodox defenses and they're absolutely stupid. No one would reason anything in life the way the church comes to it's conclusions. let me know if you want more contradictions and I'll be happy to provide them, but if you think the general attitude of bless god for good things and when bad shit happens it's the deviil or gods mysterious ways. You guys have made the cross a joke.
@@quantumfrost9467 And I just thought I'd mention it's still a massive contradiction unresolvable inside orthodox belief. Staying within orthodoxy it becomes impossible to stay consistent from Gen to Rev.
This explains nothing. All you did was argue that "Oh hate doesn't actually mean hate here." That is not an explanation, it's a very lazy negation of what is plainly stated in order to paint god as the good guy instead of the tyrant who plays favorites before people are even born.
God is timeless and immaterial he can see things before they even exist. It's simple Esu was lazy giving every thing he had for his own pleasure. He gave it his birth right to Jacob because he thought it was worthless compared to food. Good didn't chose favorite he chose the one who would be more responsible in leading a nation wich was Jacob who was more responsible and sought after God compared to Esu who didn't
@@xm377Moyocoyatzin Bc Esau had the choice to not be that way. You aren't forced to be a certain way but you must humble yourself and be grateful for what you have and have a willing heart. It's not black and white. Esau had so much hate in his heart, it trickled down for generations, hence why God had to destroy his land in Ezekiel. His lineage took every chance to hurt Israel when they were already down. Even going so far as to join the enemy side and killing the Israelites as they were trying to flee in some cases. They mocked their misfortune time and time again. You can't be bitter and be right with God. It doesn't work that way. You especially can't go against Israel and expect God to let you get away with it. Why do you think He wipes out the world at the end besides the wickedness? It's bc all the nations are going to turn on Israel yet again and try to take them over. It's not going to end well for them. I shake my head at the Muslims that are trying to claim it now. I weep for our president who is siding with Palestine. The doddering old fool. He's putting this nation under God's wrath and what's worse, he's fully aware of it.
@@proverbs31woman51 If god already knows what we are going to choose then how is it a real choice? And again: Why does god create people that he knows in advanced that he is going to hate?
@@xm377Moyocoyatzin The God is acting different in The Old Testament from The New Testament. Even if it is the same God, in the New Testament God is full of love, mercy and forgiveness. In the Old Testament God is presented as Something to be afraid of because it is might punish you. With the came of Jesus, God begins to be Something you should love, not being afraid of. Since Jesus, God started to forgive the one doing bad things, instead of punishing him. That's the meaning of Jesus salvation of the world. He made God, The Father, love us again as he used to before Adam and Eve ate the fruit. Before Jesus, God loved good people and hated bad people, now, Jesus made God incapable of hating anyone. Now God loves good people and forgives bad people(if they seek forgiveness).
The Book of Amos and the Book of Obadiah. Get to reading both. A lot of these books seem to cancel each other out. Just a bunch of prophets (people) hating on each other.
Look up the definition of 'Unreliable Narrator in Literature'. Like it is for many other characters in the Holy Book recorded in words chosen by the "winner" opposing them but now telling the story as the "victor", Esau was never going to be described in any way as worthy of what was ultimately taken from him, regardless of what he was really like. Otherwise the events that happened would come across as nothing more than cruel and unjustified. Again, look up 'Unreliable Narrator in Literature'
@@henrydaley1255 His mother conspired with his brother (his mother's favorite) for his father's blessing (and by extension, his birthright and his inheritance as the firstborn son) to be removed from Esau (his father's favorite) and be given to Jacob. That's the whole reason Jacob was fearful of having to return and face his brother. Didn't you read the story? The unreliable narrator is whoever wrote that God later hated Esau to make justifiable that whole plan decades earlier. Also, and more concerningly about that story, who is the writer that he (I presume it's a he) can speak so authoritatively on God's behalf, and with such confidence, that God hates one person (or people group) in particular? God wiped out the Edomites (Esau's descendants) because, in their bitterness and anger for what happened, they later refused to help Jacob's descendants during the exodus from Egypt. And it was written by the narrator that God perceived that sentiment the same as hatred. And so He allowed the Edomites to be annihilated. I'm no theologian, but isn't hatred in the Bible portrayed as akin to murder?
@@mark_c_1874 First of all Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a meal 🥘 that wasn’t even cooked properly. 2 Peter 1:20 “Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.” 2 Peter 1:21 “For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” You speak as though you know what you’re talking about. This is the Heavenly Father’s plan and it’s perfect in every way. Isaiah 46:10 “Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:” Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” We are all programmed to do exactly what the Heavenly Father Yahawah wants us to do! Free will is an illusion and Jacob was always meant to get everything
@@mark_c_1874 Exodus 4:22 “And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:” Exodus 4:23 “And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.” Jeremiah 51:19 “The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.” Unreliable narrator that must be you! Edo-mites wiped out?? You are having a laugh aren’t you! Ecclesiastes 4:16 “There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.” They have to serve 1000 years of slavery first then they will be wiped out as attested to in the book of Obadiah! We who actually know the truth, know that prior to the second coming and the establishment of Israelite rulership on this earth Es-au would be ruling this world. Job 9:24 “The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?” Es-au is the wicked 2 Esdras 6:7 “Then answered I and said, What shall be the parting asunder of the times? or when shall be the end of the first, and the beginning of it that followeth?” 2 Esdras 6:8 “And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau.” 2 Esdras 6:9 “For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.” Jacob is going to pull Es-au out of rulership and take over. Starting with our Lord and Saviour Yahawashi!
Hello, I think your response brings up an important point for us to consider. You’re saying Esau isn’t being portrayed fairly because of an unreliable narrator. Looking at how Jacob is portrayed, do you think he looks like the good one? Jacob the liar appears to be the undeserving one, doesn’t he? So, is there possibly a deeper question to ponder about our sinful nature and God’s mercy, which none of us deserve? Can anyone understand how he’s chosen his people before creation and yet we also have free will? Instead of reducing this to a literary analysis of “unreliable narrator,” could you ask yourself how the apparent contradictions and injustice of God’s blessing on Jacob descendants and cursing of Esau’s offspring force us to wrestle with God…as Jacob wrestled with him in Genesis 32?
God did not hate Esau. God hated the mentality of Esau. He could not see beyond the immediate future in order to receive blessings nor did he value legacy which would have alerted him to the importance of his birthright in relation to his future. Rebecca saw this in him and it made her angry as well, which is why she intervened on behalf of Jacob so that the promises of God through Issac would not be wasted on someone who didn't care or understand the value of it. What God hated was Esau's lack of understanding and wisdom not Esau the man. All Esau's troubled future is a testament to his mentality.
they were both most likely brown. it doesn't make sense that Jacob be served by Esau when white people had their foot on the necks of black people throughout history...
@@emmanuelrufai6471 Yes. the majority of all biblical figures, including Jesus was most likely brown. and im sure that there were plenty of biblical figures that were also black.
Come out of nowhere bringing black and white, God doesn't care about the color of ur skins. It's peoples in this world whom the devil have controlled over and make them hate each other, the devil is our real enemies, the devil don't want us to succeed. And human is made in God image. The Bible don't talk about white and black.
No Biblical scholar agrees to that not to mention your belief system has been debunked many times Even if that is the case the Bible clearly states God loves everyone and Gentiles can be saved .
@@dude9318 i never said gentiles can't be saved. But God definitely doesn't love everyone. Because everyone doesn't love God. John 3:16 was referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. Not everyone! Learn the percepts buddy!
@@cezz1105 more verses than John 3:16 that suggests God loves everyone Also are you a hebrew Israelite? Because what is all this nonsense of esau being the modern day white race ?
@dude9318 I get so tired of explaining this to the ignorant of the Bible. But I'll do it again even tho I know I might as well be talking to a wall 🙄. God loves everybody right? Let's see what the Bible says about it. Proverbs 8:17 “I love them that love me; THE IGNORANT: NO GOD LOVES EVERYBODY Romans 9:13 “As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.” THE IGNORANT: NO, GOD LOVES EVERYBODY John 17:9 “I pray for them: I pray NOT for the WORLD, but for them which thou hast given me; 2 esdras 6:56 54And after these, Adam also whom thou madest lord of all thy creatures, of him come wee all, and the people also whom thou hast chosen. 55All this haue I spoken before thee, O Lord, because thou madest the world for our sakes. 56As for the other people which also come of Adam, thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like vnto spittle: Now read all those scriptures/percepts and tell me God loves everybody. He doesn't, because everybody don't love God. Wake up!
@@cezz1105 You didn't answer my question of if you are a Hewbrew Israelite You believe all white people are condemned to hell or something Because that is what they believe
Yah God was not talking about the . Notice what God said to Rebekah "Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
✊🏿vs✊🏻 it's literally explaining the split of race off Lucifer (light bearer) planting his seed into mankind (NEPHILIUM). Cain was marked by God fled into land of NOD (Europe
The chosen ones went on boats & ships into slavery into Egypt (modern day america & all four corners of world & seas . This includes all the 12 tribes of Israel (ALL BLACK PEOPLE) NOT AFRICAN'S BUT NEGROES. The chosen came from darkness into marvelous light (GENEsis) the indigenous people (Judah meaning praise ) which is what Satan didn't wanna do when God was making plans for the furst creation of mankind. Satan said there mud people I'm made of light . Lololol it's all there who God's chosen people are. Jesus came into ministry looking for God's children so he gathered 12 different tribes of black men to follow him so there Children would be saved because there lost . It's literally right in the bible he told the gentile how dare you take from the children's table when she asked to hear the message of Christ the Messiah. This message is only for the lost nation black people have no flag no nation no nothing. WE BLACK PEOPLE ARE GOD'S CHOSEN CHILDREN.
Do you know those two nations of people are the so called african americans and the cuacasian? Once this is understood the bible makes a lot more sense.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
So what I've picked from peoples' opinions in the replies is that this was a judgement about what they would do in the future, what was in their hearts, Jacob honoring the covenant and esau not honoring it
@@Yahshuaismyeverything , that means he is a sadist? What a great god. It seems that the devil is not the biggest evil in Bible ^^ But i guess there is a deeper truth: Judaism is a religion invented by Jews. Of course it contains a lot of propaganda in which Jews and the jewish god are heros in their own stories. Continuations of this religion: Christianity and Islam however are not better. Abrahamic religions are just insane nonsense. Its better to be Atheist of believe in the god of ancestral religions eg. Odin, Thor, Zeus, ...
Read! Read! READ! It has nothing to do with Malachi or love! It has to do with “election,” as to “Who” God Wants in His Kingdom, and Why? Romans 9:16--- “It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s Mercy. But Mercy for what? Jacob and Esau were not yet born, and had not done good or evil? And after they were born, there was Jesus Christ. So, why God’s Mercy (unmerited pardon) before the children were yet born? This will Scare You!!! For the evil both had done “before” they were yet born from the womb?
God didn't hate esau, it was his earthly father that hated him! How do I know. Because my earthly father hates me. And Jesus tells us that he didn't hate Esau , esau is part of the 144,000.
Yes, God is Love but can Love be with hate together? God hates SIN and he who sins does not Love God. Can light exist in darkness? God can't abide in him. So the logic would be Esau loved sin over God. For when we love God we depart from sin we hate it as much as He does.
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9: 11-13 NOTE "Just as it is written!" Well where is it written? It is written in Genesis 25: 23! The Lord said to her, (Rebekah) “Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger.” It was talking about nations not individuals! In there lives the older DID NOT serve the younger. But the Nations did! When the Bible referred to Esau and Jacob it was referring to THE NATIONS THEY REPRESENTED NOT THE INDIVIDUALS.
I have a question. Why won't God just love both of them equally? Was God unable in conditions as to choose both of them. Why getting in situation of rejection? Don't you think there some deep concept in which the Bible is trying to tell?
I WAS WAITING GOR THAT, OUR BLESSING...THE BLESSING THAT , JACOB'S MOTHER AND GOD AND HIS FATHER HAD HAD PROVADED HIM.....I KNOW, WE ARE NOT USING IT YET....NOW IT IS COMING AND IT IS COMING IN FUL FORCE, I NEW WHEN IT'S COMING, I WOULD HAVE KNOWN.....WHY DO WE NEED TO STRORGLE ABOUT IT, IT IS WRITTEN.....NO ONE CAN STOP GOD DESCISION, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE..WE DIDN'T FIGHT WITH IN NYOU WHEN IT WAS YOUR TURNED
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The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
The place that they named Israel. The original name was Negro land then they changed it to the land of Jacob. Then, when the black keyboards lights were defeated and kicked out of their land then they changed it to the land of Israel. The name of Israel. God said that he in the end times will allow his people to know who they are, and the truth shall be revealed. And guess what? It's happening now, as we speak all praises due to yahawashi
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the old testament is an allegory. It’s not about the people, Jacob and Esau nor is it about the nations that came from them. This is simply God loving faith and hating works. This is why it says that Esau could find no Place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears, meaning, no matter how hard you try, you can’t get salvation by works or begging.
It’s really about each nations and individuals faithfulness. This is consistent across genesis throughout the Old Testament ( Hebrew bible). It’s the same thing in the New Testament. It’s all about faithfulness and a relationship with GOD
HERES A CLUE THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE IS NOT HATE… HATE IS WOUNDED LOVE ALSO CONSIDER THE WORD HATE NOW WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAID THIS … ”If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”-JESUS PRAY AND ASK HIM
I don't think many people are going to accept this answer, it will not convince the unbelievers. It only serves to make God seem unjust. Here is my own explanation: Esau was the type of person who would trade his entire inheritence for a bowl of soup. He had no love for God, or his plans concerning their offspring. This is reminiscent of a man, who would trade all he can have in heaven, for temporary wealth here on earth. That the here and now, he loves more than the future. This is not the kind of man who God desires to lead his long term plans of a particular group of people. He hated him because Esau cared more for what he can gain from our physical world than what God could have planned for him
Your opinion makes a lot of sense Thank You
White people exactly
This is true because it actually says in the New Testament that we shouldn't be wicked like Esau who sold his descendants wellbeing for a bowl of soup. It was a very wicked thing to do because look now the Edomites became enemies of God because of Esau
This is a good explanation! Amen
God bless you for this amazing explanation
Short answer: God does what He pleases, and is always just, and good. No matter how badly we want to say election is unjust, it isn’t and makes perfect sense in the mind of God, we must trust in Him because His ways are higher than our ways.
The answer is written in the gospel, Jesus names the God of the old testament beginning from genesis as the Pharisee or in other word, heads of state, a coucel of men.
@@TempleSquire No he does not, he came not to abolish but to fulfill.
So if “”god”” kills children THAT in YOUR sick twisted mind is a “”good”” thing? 😡
but Jacob clearly lied and deceived his father. Is that not a sin?
@@ziqiwang172 Yes it is. He did those wrong things in pursuit of god’s blessing that Easu foolishly traded for a bowl of stew.
I feel bad for Esau. Poor dude was screwed from the beginning. First by his entitled brother and then by his conniving mother!!
All praises. The reign of Esau is wrapping up, judgment is already at hand, “first shall be last, last shall be first” Jacob is about to reign. Captivity for the wicked.
You know. I like that
APTTMH
Don't you think it's interesting that Esau's reign was led by a small group of individuals born from the tribe of Yakov? Controlled opposition theology.
Going great so far for no one.
Can you confirm for me modern day A S H K E N A Z PEWS are ESAU
GOD knows our hearts...before we are in the womb.
Amen and he knew I would be his
If this is true, then why did he have to test Abram?
@@bhougland18 showing faith in action...for us.
@@bhougland18 book of Roman's says his actions were counted as faith.
SO WHAT?
But why did God reject Esau? Wasn't it Jacob who swindled Esau out of his inheritance? Didn't their mother trick Isaac, while on his deathbed, into blessing Jacob instead of Esau by disguising Jacob as Esau? I'm still studying this, but it seems like Esau really got crapped on, which is disheartening because that would mean God does not love everyone.
Esau is edomites then amalek then agagalites then hamadanites then Macedonian then greek then rome the western europe.
If you read the bible and relate till now with history of this people what does they have in common.
Hate toward Israelites and always fighting th out of envy and are despicable people.
For the things western europe has done to africa and other part of globe.
If your God what will you say.😂😂😂for the pain they causes a lot of people for their selfish reasons what do you say.
Esau I hate is a prophency on ezekiel 35 God give reasons for destroying edomites- western europe cause in book of obadiah edom is a group of nations"edomites nations" will be destroyed on end times prophency I dont know why christians neglect ezekiel 35-36 and concentrate on rapture + other prophencies.
I'm guessing it was all God's plan, as Jacob, the more devout of the two, was the one more worthy of the inheritance, as even Isaac nonchalantly acknowledged, after all was said and done, that it must've been God's will, as he witnessed Jacob deceptively obtain the blessing from Isaac, and did not intervene.
Swindled? No Esau SOLD his birth right out for a bowl of soup. To this very day Esau is no good. But his reign is just about over. APTTMH
He loves his chosen over Esau b4 they were born.
Esau sought after Worldly things and goals, and disregarded god and his gifts and blessings.
that’s not why the scripture says bud
@@elliecelestee why then do he flaunt his power and felt so sure he could destroy Jacob and his descendants, and another part of scripture it says that he represents the end of the world and Jacob the new, and marks the second coming of Christ, when Christ returns he’s going to make a new earth and heaven, after the thousand year reign. If esau marks the end of the world he parallels satan while Jacob parallels Jesus the Christ. When god says to turn your back to the world when the world turns its back on u, what do u think all these verses mean? And if it isn’t this where in the scripture does it say otherwise
Bro just wanted a soup
This make no sense to me. Jacob and his mother screwed Easu with lies and yet Jacob was rewarded.
Jacob is not the chosen one. If one read the Bible they can understand. Revelation 2:9 is exposing descendants of Jacob. They are pretending to be Jews but they are not.
God hated Esau from the womb Jacob and Esau are twins they faught in the womb God spoke to their mother and said she will give birth to many nations! Esau means hairy Esau came out red skin and hairy if you think of Esau’s decedents today they are Turned red by the almightY SUN and hairy men from the Russian Caucasus mountains , Roman , Asians , and Arab …..can’t argue Gods words that he declared and decreed!!! Esau’s decedents have many of his traits….. God hated Esau because he was Ungodly , did everything against Yahweh, was vain , greedy , and down right evil !
God does what He pleases. Period. He saved ne for no good reason.
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You as a gentile can be grafted in, but you have to serve a Hebrew God.
No
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Hey you know I love how you know my Bible better than me! I'm a Jewish believer, well Messianic Jew (Christian Jew if you will) and it brings me joy seeing Christians loving God so much and it's wonderful to see Jesus everywhere in the OT.
Man do I wait to see you in heaven one day and share testimonies. Love from Israel!
God bless you. Brother
Amen. God bless you 🙏
Deny Jesus and you go to hell scrub. Get good.
What tribe are you from?
No such thing as a Christian Jew ... What chapter and verse ,cite please ... There are only Jews and Heathens ...
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food. Jacob was willing to do anything to keep the covenant and so if God had let such a man as Esau throw it away, God would have broken his word with Abraham.
I’ve learned over the years that sometimes there are no answers. Not entirely. God is God and he owes us no explanation. We think we need explanations on things but God can do what God wants to do. He gives so much.
This doesn't explain anything of why he would choose one over the other .. does the same scripture not say that God is impartial
Is God love or not? What about mercy?
@@AwakenedAndAware Romans 9:15 For he saith to moses,I will have mercy on whom I will
Nice deduction! There is something about the bible, it is changed please consider reading Qur'an.
It’s pretty simple, why be so dependent on a video when you can just do your own separate research.
Scripture: Acts 10:34-43 (NRSV)
Then Peter began to speak to them: "1 truly understand
that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation
anyone who fears him and does what is right is
acceptable to him.
God chose Jacob over Esu because Esu never desired the lord, even his descendants after him didn't believe God or seek after him. His brother Jacob and his descendants did seek the Lord. They feared him and and did what was right due to this they were accepted. Jacob sought after God and was more responsible than Esu, Esu was more laid back and lazy wanting earthly things. God chose Jacob because he wanted someone who would lead his nation righteously seeking him.
See how Esau try to switch it up man y’all know who the real Jews are 😂😂😂😂
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Shalom brother! APTTMH we are waking up!!!!!!!
You all should follow real Christianity
Your brainwashed by hate
Facts lol Why you think Esau took whole books out the Bible and came out with revised editions ?
You can misinterpret all you want... You can't get away from your judgement
This god misinterprates everything as he wants, in my life i see everyday that most evil, sadistic, sociopaths are given happy life, and most compassionate ppl are being tortured every day, i am not going to accept his judgement, even if he will make me suffer even more than i am right now, i am person who respect truth, compassion, miracles and nothing more, and this sad, abusive, imperialistic being calling himself god didn't show me sht of this 3 things, i will never accept him.
GOD LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN❤❤❤
But not Esau.
@@PatriciaLucious-ll2vmThey can't deal with it bro lol.
not esau
This passage has to do with Jacob being preeminent over Esau in terms of service. “The elder shall serve the younger.”
It doesn’t mean God actually hated Esau. It was a cultural and Hebrew idiom speaking of preeminence.
Romans 9 is not about God loving only select people and only saving them and condemning the rest of mankind before they were born. That’s an entirely misinterpretation of Romans 9.
Jesus used the idiom in the same way. He said unless you hate your parents you cannot be my disciples. Obviously he didn’t mean to hate your parents. What He meant was that He must be preeminent; even over our own parents.
The same indignation Esau had towards Jacob is the same indignation the most high holds against Esau...... Esau's descendants had a perpetual hatred.... When coming out of Egypt, Esau denied the Israelites passage through their land and met them with violence.... The amalekites....who is Also the descendants of Esau waged war against them crossing Jordan.... Thats strike 2..... The last and final straw for Esau/Edom was assisting king Nebuchadnezzar in the destruction of Jerusalem in 580bc..... Esau stole many of the treasures from temples and any fleeing Israelite they captured and turned over to the Babylonians...... Esau showed he could not forgive therefore the father has an everlasting indignation towards them..... Esau's descendants are today's Caucasians..... According to Esau's blessings, he'd dwell in the best places on earth and would obtain them through war...... The racism that exists in America has nothing to do with skin color, the negros of America are the lost tribes of Israel while the Caucasian race comes from Esau...... That same unreasonable hatred still lives his descendants hearts....... Pay attention to the prophecy and blessings of Esau and you can easily spot him...... Whatever people/culture they've encountered throughout history, they've assumed their identity..... Removing their guilt trying to hide amongst other nations....... Before you respond to my comment, note that are other Caucasians who have confessed to the negroes of America to be the lost tribe of Judah..... And the very reasoning for enslaving Judah was apart of their punishment for disobedience against God...... The catch 22 is, our enslavers would be that of Esau...... So again the racism in America isn't about skin color but an ancient siblings rivalry that's still happening today.
Obadiah 1:18 "......... There shall be no survivors from the house of esau, the Lord has spoken it"
You tell them brother he said because he wasn't chosen lies this is why black people can't trust them never know which one you can or can not so don't trust any of them
Yes he was wicked from birth he even stole who came out of the womb first. When God talks about Esau he's talking about the heart of men. This was a wonderful breakdown. Thank you.
But let's remember when Esau was born he was called red which was the implication of his color of skin which was white and it turned red. And Jacob was black so color does have quite a bit to do with it in the long run. It was the thing that was used to weaponize why they could behave the way they did. So you cannot take that out of content either. But great breakdown
Stop with your stupid Hebrew Israelite theology ,it's false and wicked .
Because he knew he would be evil until today and he is Jacob is black and esau is Caucasian no matter what he does he is evil to the core
It’s the opposite….
@@BrownieMiyamoto nope, Jacob was Melanated. Your Jews are not sons of jacob
@@BrownieMiyamotodelusional
@@chellelechelle ok 🐦🧠, yall want to be the main character so bad, inserting yourself where you don’t belong 😂
@BrownieMiyamoto 😅that's literally the entire story of your race from the beginning of time. A people who were born so insecure you had to go around the world colonizing & terrorizing to prove some false sense of superiority when the truth is without weapons & arms to wage warfare there's nothing superior about you at all. Projection, Denial, & Deflection, & lying is your strong suit.
I'm baffled by the sheer lack of knowledge in the body of Christ. All that scripture simply means is that the Messiah would come through Jacob. Jacob was the one who believed the gospel, so it was he who continued in the prophetic office of Isaac.
Why does the Bible say b-4 the children were born doing no good or evil Jacob have I loved but Esau have I hated
@spencercansler8031 not for what they had already done ( they hadn't done anything ) but for they would do/ believe by free will in the future
@@tylerbuck9347 no such thing as freewill. And show me in the Bible were it says that Yah hated Esau because of sins that he would commit in the future 😂😂.
BECAUSE GOD READS HEART AND KNOWS WHAT IS IN THEIR HEARTS. GOD HAS CREATED ESAUL AND JACOB ; HE KNOWS FROM THE BIGINNING WHAT IS STORE IN THEIR HEARTS. HE NEW THAT JACOB WAS A QUIET MAN AND ESAU WAS A TROUBLE MAKER, ONTIL TODAY. HAVE A NICE DAY AND SHARED.
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The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
@@Faith.in.His.Grace. this makes the most sense to me
2 Esdras 6:9
[9]For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Job 9:24
[24] The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?
Is this saying that at this present day all that dwell on earth are evil?
Job 11:20
[20]But the eyes of the wicked shall fail, and they shall not escape, and their hope shall be as the giving up of the ghost.
'No hope for Esau.'
@@AwakenedAndAware Not all, just son's of Esau
Say it again!! All Praises!
All praises
God hated Esau not because He hated the person but his attitude and character there’s nothing left inside Esau, he’s will was far from God. He is the biblical example of Carnality (not only chasing after worldly things) but biblically means: choosing something that is temporary over something that is eternal… The context spoke about the culture and their values, 👉 Genesis 25:29-34 Exchanging birthright, he was taking granted of that birthright - At the time Birthright represent inheritance and salvation, In our time now Birthright is the Holy-Spirit and Salvation & it very serious before God.
So there can not be a descendants of Esau that is not fully carnal?
How could God hate Esau for his attitude when the Book of Romans makes it clear that before Esau had even been born or had done anything wrong, God had already hated him as the following passage shows:
[Romans 9:11-13 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”]
It's all about God’s grand plan for the salvation of the human race. God is a master strategist, planning end time events from the very beginning.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
@@RspproductionzFaze we all have choices
Probably because God foreknew that they will turn out rebellious, basic instinct driven and disobedient towards Him
why not gather wealth and blessings by being deceptive just like Jacob , cheat your way to the top the end justifies the means , that's basically what we learned from this story.
TIME IS SHORT. YOU AREN'T GOD'S WARRIOR. I'M WARNING YOU LEARN OF GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY AND HOLINESS❤HIS ELECTION IS IMMUTABLE. IT MATTERS NOT AN OUNCE HOW JACOB OBTAINED POSITION OVER ESAU IT WAS ORDAINED BY GOD ❤
Yes, it seems that way but we are taught not to form judgements based on what we see - have faith ( which is our confidence and hope) that God is good. Therefore, His ways, that are higher than ours, is also good even if we don't currently understand.
At the end of Genesis 26 we see this:
"When Esau was forty years old, he took Judith the daughter of Beeri the Hittite to be his wife, and Basemath the daughter of Elon the Hittite, and they made life bitter for Isaac and Rebekah".
Maybe we can say that because of Esau's wicked ways, especially towards his parents who he should have honored, God was making a way to bring justice towards Esau by changing his destiny for the good of Issac and future Israelites.
But who knows....
I trust God.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Romans nine is all about salvation, and he’s using how he loves Jacob and hated Esau. And yes, he chose one man to bring about his purposes and make a nation out of him. Jacob is the one that was saved and Esau was the one who was damed to hell and at the end, Paul says it’s not man who wills or desires but it’s God who shows mercy that is the deciding factor of a man getting saved.
The TEXT plainly says "According to God's Purpose in Election". Read the text. Most explanations are found in the TEXT. It's NOT hard to find the answers. It only BECOMES hard when we RESIST THE SIMPLE TRUTHS of God's Word.
MUCH AGREED YOU ARE SMART❤
God already knew what kind of character Esau had even before he was born. If God had chosen Esau to get blessed, then God's purpose of reconciling human to Him would not have occured past forward to Jesus Christ's mission to redeem those who are with faith. Esau was not walking in God's way. Esau would have already wiped out Jacob's descendants or kill Jacob before he could even have produced. Blessing is important because it means God's protection covers the blessed. God sees the future. He knew what was in Esau's mind and what kind of person he would be. God didn't tell Esau to do evil. Esau made his own choice.
100% true
Congrats black supremacists have like your comment koreaboo
How was Esau evil?? Jacob & his mother conspired against Esau. Esau was told by his father to go into the wilderness to kill a deer so he could eat savory meat one last time. Esau did as his father asked as the dutiful son. Jacob & his mother both lied to Isaac. Premeditated lies so that Isaac would give the inheritance & birthright to Jacob when Isaac intended to give it to Esau. Much later after Jacob’s time with Laban when Esau wanted to meet his brother Jacob was an absolute coward.
Esau could have killed his brother and everyone in his brother’s party. Instead Esau embraced Jacob and hugged him. When Jacob (feeling ashamed) offered Esau some of his wealth Esau said I have enough.
I ask you, where is the evil of Esau? Esau was the better man , despite NOT being “God’s chosen”. Esau dutifully worked for his father and was a good son. His only sin in his parents eyes was marrying a woman they disagreed with . Esau had calloused rough hands of a man well aquatinted with hard work. Jacob had the soft hands of a schemer & liar. A true judge of a man is his actions.
Esau was the better man. He even followed God’s rules despite his own family’s evil.
Why does he create people he hates? Seems sadistic to me. Like a man who wants to become father, impregnates a woman just to torture and mistreat the son or daughter. But i guess there is a deeper truth: Judaism is a religion invented by Jews and therefore contradictory. Continuations of it: Christianity and Islam are even more contradictory becaue it becomes not better as further as you continue it.
You answered that beautifully. New Sub
I can't say it makes sense to me but then I'm not exactly Albert Einstein, either. What I can say is that I have (REGRETTABLY!) greatly sinned during my time in this world, and while The Lord has for sure been brutal at times when I deserved it, He has also been AMAZINGLY merciful towards me as well!!!
So, the bottom-line is that Jesus is the absolute *Gold Standard* for all things good. Thus, one can rightfully assume that He for sure does everything with goodness and fairness, even if sometimes it can be a little hard to understand from our human perspective. (When we meet him on the other side, I strongly suspect He'll make things clear for us with no problem the answers to our questions.)🙂💛🧡💖💝
He did not answer, what race is Jacob and what race is esau ?
@@mavecolby7562 esua come out red and hairy ask urself what people on the earth are red , and jacob looked like the people of that region brown Israelite as discribe in the Bible are black on to the ground. One of your 4 fathers Willie lynch us the tactic of turning the light skin Israelite against the darker because the true jews are black .Alittle history for ya
Jacob is black and Esau came out red and hairy. White people are the descendents of Esau supposedly
Jacob is the so called african americans, native indians and hispanics. Esau is the mountain dwellers it says in the bible, which means the Caucasian. The reign of the white man is just about over. You have inherited lies and Gods wrath will be felt. @@mavecolby7562
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Justice is what we earn, but Grace and Mercy are things that we have not earned and can only be given, if God were to give us justice we’ve all earned death and hell but through Gods Grace and Mercy in Christ Jesus we get Salvation, Forgiveness, and Eternal life… learned that from R.C Sproul
You didn’t mention that Esau sold his birthright for a single meal which the Lord hated.
Who does the lord hate in this scenario, the one who sold it or the one who bought it
GOD didn't like Esau heart ...look at the world since easu run it. All bad. You notice easu only prosper when blacks are treated right. ......but his pride want let him believe Jacob is the heir to.the throne. ....that why.white people hate us. But they hold on to they white pride. Meaning they think purity means skin. But that only to make themselves feel better. Hate is real
But shouldn't Jacob have helped his brother, who was in such dire need that he would trade his birthright? Jacob took advantage of his starving brother.
@@BlckCloud73 No because Jacob was conceived before Esau. Esau threaten to kill their mother if he couldn't come out her womb first. They removed that story from the bible. Its in the legend of the Jews and in some other ancient text.
@@BlckCloud73 always blaming others for your faults
If I may ask, where is Jacob and Esau generation today ?
Read Galatians 3:29 and the Jewish encyclopedia says edom is in modern Jewry today.
Esau = Ancient Europeans Biblical
Jacob = Ancient Israelites Biblical
Esau today so called White Man.
Jacob Israel so called Blacks.
Jacob lied to his father and cheated his brother…
Honor thy father, respect your elders 😂😂😂😂😂
O well
They say those weren't sins because it was God's Will........
@@Zarakikenpachi69420 who is “they” ?
Yeah and he kinda got punished for it. His father in law / uncle deceived him when he gave him Leah to marry instead of Rachel whom he loved.
He deceived and got deceived as well.
Mother should be punished 100 time. Sad for Esau
*1 corinthians 12:13*
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
"Drink"? Which translation you using?
God doesn't hate anyone, but in the comparative sense he preferred Esau less. Just like when Jesus said you must love him but hate mother and father and such in comparison to him.
In old testament he hates a lot people.
Really God doesn't hate Esau, you obviously haven't read Malachi 1:4.
@mrcooper7027 I have read the book and in the comparative sense Esau was preferred less.
@@johnlewisbrooks There's nothing to dispute with regard to Malachi 1:4, the scripture clearly says God hated Esau.
@@mrcooper7027 he hated esau in the preference sense.
When it says God HATED ESAU IT WAS MEANT HE WAS ANGRY WITH HIM AND HIS REJECTION OF HIS BIRTH RIGHT AND HOW HE TREATED HIS BROTHERS DESCENDANTS
Why doesn’t it say “Jacob I have accepted, but Esau I have rejected” then 😢
💔 mao gani. Maybe to let us know, "I won't pet you kid" .
Yeah, the word "hate" is pretty powerful.
Its just a figure of speech
Because the jewish god is a jewish invention. And jews are not the chosen race but normal people like anybody else. Judaism, Christianity and Islam make no sense. Abraham already was a maniac.
@@neno5rovno it isn't, read Malachi 1:4.
You know, it’s funny how everybody gets mad at God for choosing Jacob, but every ancient family honored the older brother. Every second child was always “hated” or “not chosen”. All God did was reverse the order and make a point… which we all seem to miss… God chooses and uses those who He decides.
The first born son was automatically chosen, and given the blessing, does that mean every parent hated their second child? Does that mean God hated every second born boy? And all daughters?
Why aren’t we asking why the first child is always chosen automatically in ancient culture without any regard for how they acted or what they did?
Instead of God, coming out being a liberator of the second born (underdog,) child, He’s the bad guy….
🤔 THE ONES THAT GOD "CHOOSES?" OR THE ONES GOD KNOWS THEIR HEARTS BEFORE WE ARE EVEN BORN? IF GOD "CHOOSES" THERE IS NO "FREEWILL."
That's right ✅️
see romans 8:29 and 2 Peter 3:9
@@christforteens_fromateen6190 OK? HE KNOWS WHO'S GONNA ACCEPT HIM & HE REALLY WOULD LOVE EVERYONE TOO. THE FLIP SIDE... HE ALSO KNOWS WHO'S NOT. WHY? BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR FREEWILL. NOW... ONCE WE CHOSE TO FOLLOW HIM OUR ( WORLDLY / FLESH ) FREEWILL BECOMES VERY LIMITED BECAUSE WE ALLOW THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TAKE OVER & WE BECOME LESS. MORE SPIRIT, LESS FLESH. THAT MEANS... HIS CHILDREN FLOURISH IN HIS GUIDANCE TO BECOME CHRIST-LIKE. I TRUELY BELIEVE THERE'S ONLY ONE ( TRUE ) Q IN LIFE? "WHO DO YOU SERVE?" ONCE YOU CHOSE GOD... IT'S A DONE DEAL. I KNOW THAT ONCE YOU DO YOU CAN'T BREAK THAT BOND... BECAUSE HIS ( TRUE ) CHILDREN COULDN'T EVEN STOMACH IT. BUT HEY... THAT'S JUST ME.
Wrong… God knows their heart even before the creation of the world. He doesn’t remove their free will. He simply chooses those who love Him and want to do His will.
@@lelamoore1019 🤦♂️ YOU MISSED IT ALLLL TOGETHER. ✈ 🙆♂️
I'm 16, I've read this entire scenario and I STILL feel bad for Esau. I absolutely do not respect Jacob at all for what he did and the fact that Esau apologized to Jacob infuriated me. Jacob is manipulative and while he gave his his birthright as the firstborn, if we're being honest, he was young and easily manipulated. After I read this, I put down the Bible for a bit and was just very confused on why Jacob received was blessed. I still love God and will pick up the Bible soon, but this entire chapter just left me so mad. Esau did nothing wrong, yet was shown to have the greatest character as he even apologized to his brother after.
Remember, history is recorded accurately in the Bible, the good, the bad, and the ugly truths are there. When people failed to act righteously, like David and Bathsheba, the Bible records that history as a lesson to us all that everyone can make wrong sinful choices. Jacob’s past deceitfulness is not hidden from us, it’s recorded for all to know the truth of how God can turn any of our stories around.
Check out this article for more: www.gotquestions.org/life-Jacob.html
Did you know esau is the so called white man and jacob is the so called african americna and native people of the world?
@@RocCityHebrew585why are you pushing lies?
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Why you hate my people Jacob???
We must also remember Luke 14:26, "“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple." Jesus isn't talking about hatred that leads to murder which He Himself condemns (Mathew 5:21-22, see also 1 John 3:15) but it is the kind of hatred to be thought less than or for not giving a lot of attention or thought to something or someone else compared to another. For example in Deuteronomy 21:15 speaks "If a man has two wives, one loved and the other unloved, and they have borne him children, both the loved and the unloved, and if the firstborn son is of her who is unloved," and also Jacob loving Rachel but "hating" Leah. In conclusion, this is the "kind" of hatred God doesn't condemn. It is just.
Obadiah 1:9
“And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.”
Obadiah 1:10
“For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.”
Obadiah 1:18
“And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.”
Ezekiel 25:14
“And I will lay my vengeance upon Edom by the hand of my people Israel: and they shall do in Edom according to mine anger and according to my fury; and they shall know my vengeance, saith the Lord GOD.”
Yahawah HATES Esau-Edom period.
Damn clear The Most High has no love for Esau... This " scholar" has no clue what he's talking about .
Period ❗️
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It always amazed at how Euro-Americans Christians always give their people a cockeyed explanation of The Bible!
Thanks to the real woke people of Israel, we all use the Precept upon Precept and true biblical history to correct those who are awake! Halleluyah!
tell it like it is AMAN
God saw Esau's choice and that's why God didn't abandon him. God sees us as a choice, what we chose.Good ot bad.
White people turn red in the sun Esau means red
Not all white people lmao
But he was born Red hadn't been in the sun yet
No jasper.
I am no one to criticize God or his works as I am barely even capable of comprehending them and please do not take my questioning and lack of understanding as criticism but rather expression of my lack of understanding seeking after God's will and character.
That said, I do not understand why a man who practices deception against his own brother and at the request of his mother lies to his own father on his death bed would be preferred by God. I also do not understand why people are so quick to take pride in their flesh and judge even their own brothers whom are no worse and no better than them as we all have fallen short and need God's redemption through his Son Jesus.
There is so much I do not understand, but I know God is good as sure as I know water is wet and so above all else let God's will be done.
Is it possible that God hated Esau because of how he reacted? He was vengeful, murderous, disobedient etc. another thing yall seem to miss is Esau was well taken care of, even rejecting Jacobs gifts because he was so blessed. Just because Esau's promise wasn't as good as Jacobs his purpose was still fulfilled when he became an enemy of Israel.
I always hated jacob. He was a liar and a con man. He manipulated his brother and dishonored his father with deceit. Never thought it was fair to Esau
That's why I'm here. It seemed like Esau really got crapped on, and I don't understand why.
This is basically what European colonizers did to brown skinned native Americans. Take their property and culture then tell them "pull yourself up by the bootstraps"
@@BlckCloud73I don't get it either. Rebekah Isaac & Esu's mother aided in the deceit. Shouldn't be the other way around. Is it because he was to hairy?
@@BlckCloud73 , whole Judaism is a jewish invented religion with jewish propaganda. Of course they portray god and their ancestor as superior. Torah and Bible are full of contradictions. Christianity and Islam the continuations of Judaism are without sense too. If people want to follow any religion it should be their ancestral religion.
@@luddman77 , they were all wicked. Insanity started with Abraham who wanted to sacrifice his own son for voices he heard in his head.
God was speaking about the nations within the womb. Esau represented one nation and Jacob represented God's people. God predestined people for purposes not for salvation.
Short and sweet and to the point.
But really just WHY would God love one and hate the other in the same womb?
Now for something totally different.
It has to do with the ' seed wars ' , that is, the seed of the woman versus the seed of the serpent.
In Genesis 3: 15 God promises there will come a Messiah from the 'seed of the woman ' to make things right and open a way for mankind to still dwell with God.
God also mentions that there will be an adversary, the ' seed of the serpent ' to thwart the coming of this Messiah.
In Genesis 6 the seed of the serpent is introduced to the world through the Watcher angels falling from their first estate of being heavenly angels capable of going from angelic spiritual state to temporary human - like state in their assistance to men of earth, to taking on the human flesh form permanently in order to have relations with women of earth and produce children.
Their seed contaminated the bloodline of every last person on earth except Noah, his wife, and his three sons.
Before the flood waters killed all the contaminated people - contaminated with the ' seed of the serpent ' - the sons had to find wives of the contaminated people and find the purest possible to repopulate after the flood.
Ham' s wife was obviously most heavy carrier of the ' bad seed ' ( quite possibly on purpose by Ham ) and the evil Canaanites came from Ham.
Shem's wife was most pure although not perfect as a tiny, recessive gene came through and surfaced in the person of Esau.
Esau was a hairy, red - haired, hairy like an animal, type of person.
Esau was just like a red - haired giant Canaanite although he was not a real Canaanite but rather from the Nephilim bloodline from before the flood through the wife of Shem.
Canaanites were from Nephilim bloodline from before the flood through the wife of Ham.
It is my belief that the small amount of recessive DNA hiding in the lineage of Shem came to the surface in the fashion of one half of a set of fraternal twins.
That is to say Rebecca carried both the
' seed of the woman ' and the ' seed of the serpent ' in her womb at the same time.
THAT IS WHY when Esau came out first and was slated to be the bearer of the birthright which also involved being the carrier of the lineage to the Messiah that every effort was made to not let that happen.
The bloodline to the Messiah had to be pure and if Esau had been in the lineage then the Messiah would not be able to be a Messiah.
AND that is why God would ' love ' Jacob and ' hate ' Esau.
Jacob was the legitimate bearer of the pure lineage of the ' seed of woman ' from Eve and Esau was the carrier of the evil ' seed of the serpent ' from Genesis 6.
Esau then went on to marry Canaanite princess ( doesn't mean she was pretty, might have been as hairy as he was )
Which would mean that the Edomites were mostly a combination of evil blood carried over from before the flood from two different lineages, from two different wives of Noah's family.
And that is most likely why they don't really exist today.
All this talk about Esau being the evil carrier of the bloodline of the serpent might make for interesting reading but at best this is just the imagination of the writer. Let us not let our imaginations guide us in interpreting scripture. If God has not revealed some issue or if we do not know, it is better to stay away from.personal opinions on biblical issues. Just some brotherly advice.
@@thewicktrimmer9089 a lot of people have trouble with the whole ' Genesis 6 '
scenario and I have been trying to follow every possible avenue that Ines up at all with scripture.
Besides, isn't that the question posed with this video?
Just trying to find every possible answer.
@@michaelszczys8316 Point understood. I will also study this issue in more detail and ask God for wisdom to understand his real reasons for hating Esau. I am confident that the Holy Spirit will provide the enlightenment and when he does, I will also share what I would have learnt. I admit that the Bible is no easy Book.
@@thewicktrimmer9089 studying that subject a lot it got to my curiosity on just how Esau was apparently so ' physically' different. It got me thinking.
Total speculation mind you.
@@michaelszczys8316 When you read Revelation 12 and you discover that the dragon or devil has a scarlet or red color ( Revelation 12:3 and 17:3) then you understand why God had to hate Esau who had the same red or scarlet colour ( Genesis 25:25). This is because from the point of conception in the womb of Rebecca, Esau was destined to be a spiritual child of the serpent whose sole aim was to destroy God's chosen people. So of course God needed to hate him because he represents the physical manifestation of Satan here on earth, with his desire to destroy anything that came out of Jacob (Remember Haman son of Hammedatha, the Agagite, the enemy of all the Jews, Esther 9:24) You might also recall what Esau vowed after he was tricked by Jacob.
[Genesis 27:41 Esau held a grudge against Jacob because of the blessing his father had given him. He said to himself, “The days of mourning for my father are near; then I will kill my brother Jacob.”]
Only a child of the serpent can deliberately plan to kill his own brother. That's what Jesus meant by the expression,
[Mark 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.]
The Bible is the most fascinating of all books ever written.
God works through the free choices, both good and bad, of human moral agents to accomplish his purposes. Unfortunately we often don’t give God good choices to work with, and that seems to be what happened in this case.
Sir, God is love but he does hate sinners (Psalm 5:5, Psalm 11:5). He only loves his elect and hates the rest with a holy hatred. All are sinners who are deserving of wrath. Romans 9 does have to do with emotions, not just nations. Study the entire Bible, buddy.
` Holy Hatred ' , where do You Read that in The Bible ?
There's no Such a Holy Hatred In The Bible , dont Push your Human Concepts in the Bible just to Prove Your Belief.
It is all over the Bible, you do not need to act blind. You mean to tell me you do not see the word "hate" in Psalm 5:5 and Psalm 11:5??????????
thanks for the explaination!
1:56, but why did God choose this way? And where in the bible did God "command" Jacob & his mother Rebecca to steal this birthright?
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Well, the lineage of Esau when you read the Bible, it talks about Dukes of this in Duke Duke. I’m pretty sure they’re talking about the Caucasian race because he still had a line just like Jacob had. Lineage
How are caucasians the lineage of Esau? According to a lot of pro-blacks, everybody back then was black until Esau came along. If Esau's parents and twin brother were black, how was he white? Even if he were albino, he still had black DNA, facial features, and kinky hair. And he had 3 to 6 wives. If his wives were black (or at least colored....definitely not white), then how could his offspring be white? And if his offspring went out and had children with blacks or at least colored people, how could Esau's grandchildren be white? As the lineage went further, Esau's offspring got blacker and blacker or more and more colored (if indeed Esau was the first white). When did Esau's lineage all of a sudden started becoming white? King David must have been part of Esau's lineage and white also. 1 Samuel 16:12 and 17:42 says that David was ruddy (which is red) and even says that David had a fair countenance.
AND I HATED ESAU AND LAID HIS MOUNTAIN WASTE FOR THE DRAGONS OF THE WILDERNESS. SURE SOUND LIKE THE ALMIGHTY GOD MEANT HE HATED ESAU AND ALL OF HIS OFFSPRING. "GOD DOES NOT CHANGE.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
It sounds like Esau's service was rejected by Jacob and his people. Jacob was in fear of Esau because of his own behavior. Esau got over it and was glad to see Jacob. I wonder how Adam felt about the Shining One (snake) after he tilled the soil and created the Garden of Eden, a promised land, a heavenly home, the new heaven and new earth, before settling east of Eden? Perhaps that someone was in need of salvation? He probably knew it was time to settle east of Eden when he took a bite.
Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. (Mat 25:34 NABO) The earth was barren, with no shrub of the field and, as yet, no man to till the soil. Adam tilled the soil and prepared the Garden of Eden, a promised land, a heavenly home, a new heaven and new earth, according to the plan of his Father, and then he settled east of Eden and has tilled and cultivated the earth ever since. I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB)
Light and vegetation are created before the sun and moon because the story is about the new heaven and new earth. Yahweh is the light and Adam, the Christ, is the lamp. Your creation story is when, in the beginning, Adam found you in a wasteland, (Gen 1:2 NABO), empty, and void of understanding, your having become corrupted by sin, and he shielded you as the apple of his eye. (Deu 32:10 NABO)
The Son of David rules from David's throne and over his kingdom. Yet, the Son of David is also the root of David. The older, serving the younger. The only begotten Son of David according to the spirit.
The Lord God will give him the throne of David his Father (Luk 1:32 NABO)
Blessed is the kingdom of our Father David that is to come! (Mar 11:10 NABO)
Then comes the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father (1Co 15:24 NABO)
The Son himself will (also) be subjected to the “One” who subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all. (1Co 15:28 NABO)
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Adam, the Christ, is a third-party mediator to this world and these heavens between you and your Father. In this version of the story, Jacob is seated at the table and Esau, the first-born serves him.
For who is greater: the one seated at table or the one who serves? Is it not the one seated at table? I am among you as the one who serves. (Luk 22:27 NABO)
Esau, the firstborn, lives by the sword (sacrifice) and serves his brother, Jacob, who was born gripping (striking at) his heel.
Isaac blessed Esau saying: Ah, far from the fertile earth shall be your dwelling; far from the dew of the heavens above! (Gen 27:39 NABO)
You will not always have me (Mat 26:11 NABO)
I am with you always, until the end of the age. (Mat 28:20 NAB)
My kingdom does not belong to this world. (Joh 18:36 NABO)
Where I am going you cannot come. (Joh 8:21 NABO)
Then I took my staff "Refuge" and snapped it asunder, breaking off the covenant which I had made with all peoples (Noahic covenant) (Zec 11:10 NABO)
Then I snapped asunder my other staff, "Heritage" (Deu 32:8) breaking off my brotherhood with (or between?) Judah and Israel. (Zec 11:14 NABO)
the one who ascended far above all the heavens themselves (Eph 4:10 NABO)
never to return to corruption (Act 13:34 NABO)
"By your sword (sacrifice) you shall live, and your brother you shall serve; But when you become restive (weak; faint; infirm; a worm; man of suffering; restless; wanderer in the desert; way of the Lord in the desert), you shall throw off his yoke from your neck." (Gen 27:40 NABO)
Save me, I pray, from the hand of my brother Esau! (Gen 32:12 NABO)
Esau ran to meet him, embraced him, and flinging himself on his neck, kissed him as he wept. (Gen 33:4 NABO)
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am meek and humble of heart; and you will find rest for yourselves. For my yoke is easy, and my burden light. (Mat 11:29-30 NABO)
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Adam was without sin. The sin of Adam is prophetic of the sacrifice, when he wields the fiery sword guarding the way to the Tree of Life on the day of vengeance AS judgment, setting up the abomination of desolation in him, as the Temple without one stone left standing upon another. By his sacrifice, he justifies David when he speaks and, at his resurrection, he vindicates him in his sentence. The hand of (Yahweh/ David) is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. (Isa 59:1 NABO) David, the Morning Star, is the Light of the world and the Son of David is the Lamp of the Light of the Father.
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What is Christianity about? I hear a lot of hate speech. I'm a Bible person. The Bible, and this earthly creation, is about the salvation of those who became corrupted by sin. Corruption by sin appears to be a part of the fabric of the universe.
Yahweh is the God of metallurgy. The gates of the nether world (Abyss/ Death) will not prevail against his Everlasting Lake of Fire and Brimstone (sulfur) where you will be smelted and refined, have your dross removed and be purified. There, you will be tormented or, tested for purity by questioning.
Tormented: 1) to test (metals) by the touchstone, which is a black siliceous stone used to test the purity of gold or silver by the color of the streak produced on it by rubbing it with either metal 2) to question by applying torture
Just as silver, bronze, iron, lead, and tin are gathered into a furnace and smelted in the roaring flames, so I will gather you together in my furious wrath, put you in, and smelt you. (Eze 22:20 NABO)
My question now sir for you who is esau ? Hint red and hairy
😂 All praise to the lord!
2:48, but in the case of Sara God instructed her to wait & trust on him for this favored son. Since she disobeyed, then why did God punish Ismail for her faults? And in the case of Jacob & Esau why then did God use Rebecca & Jacob to "Steal" the birth right instead of just handing it over to Jacob right from the beginning ? That seems a crooked way to teach a moral lesson?
God Loved Esau and Hated Jacob! Proven by the current State of Isn'tRael. The State of Isn'tRael ain't Israelite as the Israelites were sent into Diaspora by God because they are bad! The Edomites are God's Chosen and the land the State of Isn'tRael is the land God promised to Esau. Next proof are the laws of the State of Isn'tRael. They closely resemble the Code of Cana'an law of Vatican curia's council of Cana'an. God also loved the Cana'anites but not as much as the Edomites (Genesis 36:2)
Although this answer given by the speaker was thought out I believe in good or educational intentions, it is not the answer nor a good interpretation of these verses. A better and more accurate answer of this passage was very plain and simple but a mystery to those not given eyes to see or ears to hear. God loved one and hated the other! Even more so it even explains in a human understanding in Romans: 9 verse 13
It's predestination, election, love & hate. It means that before the foundation of the world God the Father gave God the Son a remnant of people or saints that SHALL be saved, preserved. And the "neither doing any good or evil" part was a way to explain that none of your filthy works will get you to heaven. Also that it was God that did the picking, God that did the dying, and God that did the saving for whom he loved. So the passage means God loved or saved Jacob, and God hated or damned Esau from the foundation of the world with neither of them having done anything good or evil. Yes it does later talk about the different family lineage and God's grace but still the same thing. Why did He love one family lineage and not the other? For the same reason or answer: He loved 1 and hated the other for no other reason than that's what He wanted to do. He's God and whatever He does is good snd right even if You, I, or anyone else thinks that it isn't fair or right.
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Wrong!!! God hated Esau because he sold his birthright to Jacob for a bowl of soup!!! God spoke to Abraham and promised that he will be the father of a multitude of nations (Gen 17). Esau and Jacob were 15 years old before Abraham died (Gen 25). Then, God also spoke to Isaac (Abraham’s firstborn) and promised him that through “your seed all nations of the earth will be blessed ( Gen 26).” Isaac wanted to bless Esau- his firstborn- before he dies to confer the blessing as the firstborn and as promised by God (Gen 27) who said to him “through your seed all nations of the earth will be blessed”. But unknown to Isaac, Jacob along with his mother tricked Isaac.
Jacob and his mother believed the promise God told Abraham and Isaac but not Esau. The seed that will eventually come was Jesus Christ. Thus Abraham, Isaac, Rebeccah, and Jacob believed but Esau did not. In fact, Esau dishonored Isaac and Rebeccah by marrying two Canaanites displeasing his parents.
Thus God hated Esau for rejecting and disbelieveing “the seed” that He promised to Abraham and Isaac through which His Son Jesus would eventually come for a bowl of soup!!!!
Yes, Esau would serve the younger as spoken of by God to Rebeccah but that is not why God hated Esau. The servant role of Esau was a statement of his condition after rejecting God’s promise. In fact God cursed Edom - the descendants of Esau- for they have become violent and unwilling to let Isarelites pass through their land in their journey to Canaan and worse fought against them!!!!
Everytime hate is mentioned in the Scripture refers solely to wickedness done against God, His nature or against His laws. Thus God hating Esau meant that Esau did something wicked before God.
The reference of hating father and mother and self in Luke 14:26 refers to wickedness in man that keeps him from being a disciple of Jesus. Hating a brother in other texts is an evil condition of the heart of the one hating and therefore since God does not have an evil heart, when God hated Esau it was because Esau did evil in God’s eyes by rejecting the promise.
The book of Obadiah explain The Most High level and use of the word hate!!!! Note: the Lord never said he hated the Devil.
His name is God, zealot.
Esau is the devils offspring
@@jacksonrelaxin3425 God is not a name. Its a title meaning something worshipped; a deity.
1 corinthians 8:5 ““For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)”
Psalms 96:4-5 “For the LORD is great, and greatly to be praised: He is to be feared above all gods. For all the gods of the nations are idols: But the LORD made the heavens.”
Maybe you ought to be more zealous so you can actually know the name of the God your following. He is also called “The Lord” but King David is also called “Lord” by his subjects in 1&2 Samuels. Its like calling him “The president” a true saying. But not a name. Ironically him saying “The most high” is more concise and clear than you saying God. We know he’s talking about the highest of all powers but what “God” are you speaking of?
@@Saint77.7 u sound gay
Then why not God talk to Isaac to bless Jacob? But instead Jacob had to device an evil plan to deceive his father to get his blessing?
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
jacob is black and esau is white
No, Esau is actually the dark-skinned one and Jacob is white.
I was taught the Hebrew of that word is not actually "hate". It's more closer to God "loved him less." Can someone that knows Hebrew well please clarify... ?
It's hyperbole like "Unless you hate father and mother you cannot be my disciples." God was getting ready to harden Israel for their rejection of their Messiah and it was Israel who was crying out about "Why did you make me this way?" It's not about us and reading ourselves into Romans 9 in Narcissigesis.
That seems like giving god an easy out. It's literal personal hatred if you go back to the Hebrew. It's also a direct contradiction to John 3:16. It's why I renounced it all. Bad contradictory shit show.
@@johnloftin2461 saying that's giving God an easy way out, is not an actual rebuttal for the explanation. You're just trying to justify it having to be a contradiction
@@quantumfrost9467 you set your theology on nuance and word games. That's giving god an easy out. The church castrated god long ago in America. Everyone insists upon how he must be so loving, despite what that book says and despite what happens in the world. I don't have to come up with more contradictions for christianity because the church gives god an easy out on that as well. Just think how cheap you guys really sell your souls. I bet there isn't one thing in your life you don't see the goodness of god. Christianity is a religion of convienience, that's why cheap and shallow answers to biblical problems. I'm not justifying anything, just calling christianity a first rate debacle. But if you want contradictions, they are there. Example: Please explain the death of King Saul. How did he die and how do you reconcile the 2 differing accounts? (they give god an easy out on this one too). If you want deeper theological stuff, JOhn 3:16 vs most of Romans 9 specifically regarding Esau. I know the orthodox defenses and they're absolutely stupid. No one would reason anything in life the way the church comes to it's conclusions. let me know if you want more contradictions and I'll be happy to provide them, but if you think the general attitude of bless god for good things and when bad shit happens it's the deviil or gods mysterious ways. You guys have made the cross a joke.
@@quantumfrost9467 and god's hatred for Esau was deep and personal from the original Hebrew and Greek. Don't give cheap answers.
@@quantumfrost9467 And I just thought I'd mention it's still a massive contradiction unresolvable inside orthodox belief. Staying within orthodoxy it becomes impossible to stay consistent from Gen to Rev.
Let God be God
The foolishness of God
Is greater than the wisdom
Of man!
This explains nothing. All you did was argue that "Oh hate doesn't actually mean hate here." That is not an explanation, it's a very lazy negation of what is plainly stated in order to paint god as the good guy instead of the tyrant who plays favorites before people are even born.
God is timeless and immaterial he can see things before they even exist. It's simple Esu was lazy giving every thing he had for his own pleasure. He gave it his birth right to Jacob because he thought it was worthless compared to food. Good didn't chose favorite he chose the one who would be more responsible in leading a nation wich was Jacob who was more responsible and sought after God compared to Esu who didn't
@@xilitzv1 Why would god create Esau in the first place if he knew he would hate him?
@@xm377Moyocoyatzin Bc Esau had the choice to not be that way. You aren't forced to be a certain way but you must humble yourself and be grateful for what you have and have a willing heart. It's not black and white. Esau had so much hate in his heart, it trickled down for generations, hence why God had to destroy his land in Ezekiel. His lineage took every chance to hurt Israel when they were already down. Even going so far as to join the enemy side and killing the Israelites as they were trying to flee in some cases. They mocked their misfortune time and time again. You can't be bitter and be right with God. It doesn't work that way. You especially can't go against Israel and expect God to let you get away with it. Why do you think He wipes out the world at the end besides the wickedness? It's bc all the nations are going to turn on Israel yet again and try to take them over. It's not going to end well for them. I shake my head at the Muslims that are trying to claim it now. I weep for our president who is siding with Palestine. The doddering old fool. He's putting this nation under God's wrath and what's worse, he's fully aware of it.
@@proverbs31woman51 If god already knows what we are going to choose then how is it a real choice? And again: Why does god create people that he knows in advanced that he is going to hate?
@@xm377Moyocoyatzin The God is acting different in The Old Testament from The New Testament. Even if it is the same God, in the New Testament God is full of love, mercy and forgiveness. In the Old Testament God is presented as Something to be afraid of because it is might punish you. With the came of Jesus, God begins to be Something you should love, not being afraid of. Since Jesus, God started to forgive the one doing bad things, instead of punishing him. That's the meaning of Jesus salvation of the world. He made God, The Father, love us again as he used to before Adam and Eve ate the fruit. Before Jesus, God loved good people and hated bad people, now, Jesus made God incapable of hating anyone. Now God loves good people and forgives bad people(if they seek forgiveness).
The Book of Amos and the Book of Obadiah. Get to reading both.
A lot of these books seem to cancel each other out. Just a bunch of prophets (people) hating on each other.
Look up the definition of 'Unreliable Narrator in Literature'. Like it is for many other characters in the Holy Book recorded in words chosen by the "winner" opposing them but now telling the story as the "victor", Esau was never going to be described in any way as worthy of what was ultimately taken from him, regardless of what he was really like. Otherwise the events that happened would come across as nothing more than cruel and unjustified. Again, look up 'Unreliable Narrator in Literature'
What was taken from Esau and who is the unreliable narrator?
@@henrydaley1255 His mother conspired with his brother (his mother's favorite) for his father's blessing (and by extension, his birthright and his inheritance as the firstborn son) to be removed from Esau (his father's favorite) and be given to Jacob. That's the whole reason Jacob was fearful of having to return and face his brother. Didn't you read the story?
The unreliable narrator is whoever wrote that God later hated Esau to make justifiable that whole plan decades earlier.
Also, and more concerningly about that story, who is the writer that he (I presume it's a he) can speak so authoritatively on God's behalf, and with such confidence, that God hates one person (or people group) in particular?
God wiped out the Edomites (Esau's descendants) because, in their bitterness and anger for what happened, they later refused to help Jacob's descendants during the exodus from Egypt. And it was written by the narrator that God perceived that sentiment the same as hatred. And so He allowed the Edomites to be annihilated.
I'm no theologian, but isn't hatred in the Bible portrayed as akin to murder?
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First of all Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for a meal 🥘 that wasn’t even cooked properly.
2 Peter 1:20
“Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.”
2 Peter 1:21
“For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
You speak as though you know what you’re talking about.
This is the Heavenly Father’s plan and it’s perfect in every way.
Isaiah 46:10
“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”
Isaiah 45:7
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
We are all programmed to do exactly what the Heavenly Father Yahawah wants us to do!
Free will is an illusion and Jacob was always meant to get everything
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Exodus 4:22
“And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:”
Exodus 4:23
“And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.”
Jeremiah 51:19
“The portion of Jacob is not like them; for he is the former of all things: and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: the LORD of hosts is his name.”
Unreliable narrator that must be you!
Edo-mites wiped out?? You are having a laugh aren’t you!
Ecclesiastes 4:16
“There is no end of all the people, even of all that have been before them: they also that come after shall not rejoice in him. Surely this also is vanity and vexation of spirit.”
They have to serve 1000 years of slavery first then they will be wiped out as attested to in the book of Obadiah!
We who actually know the truth, know that prior to the second coming and the establishment of Israelite rulership on this earth Es-au would be ruling this world.
Job 9:24
“The earth is given into the hand of the wicked: he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, and who is he?”
Es-au is the wicked
2 Esdras 6:7
“Then answered I and said, What shall be the parting asunder of the times? or when shall be the end of the first, and the beginning of it that followeth?”
2 Esdras 6:8
“And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau.”
2 Esdras 6:9
“For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.”
Jacob is going to pull Es-au out of rulership and take over. Starting with our Lord and Saviour Yahawashi!
Hello, I think your response brings up an important point for us to consider. You’re saying Esau isn’t being portrayed fairly because of an unreliable narrator. Looking at how Jacob is portrayed, do you think he looks like the good one? Jacob the liar appears to be the undeserving one, doesn’t he? So, is there possibly a deeper question to ponder about our sinful nature and God’s mercy, which none of us deserve? Can anyone understand how he’s chosen his people before creation and yet we also have free will? Instead of reducing this to a literary analysis of “unreliable narrator,” could you ask yourself how the apparent contradictions and injustice of God’s blessing on Jacob descendants and cursing of Esau’s offspring force us to wrestle with God…as Jacob wrestled with him in Genesis 32?
God did not hate Esau. God hated the mentality of Esau. He could not see beyond the immediate future in order to receive blessings nor did he value legacy which would have alerted him to the importance of his birthright in relation to his future. Rebecca saw this in him and it made her angry as well, which is why she intervened on behalf of Jacob so that the promises of God through Issac would not be wasted on someone who didn't care or understand the value of it. What God hated was Esau's lack of understanding and wisdom not Esau the man. All Esau's troubled future is a testament to his mentality.
You ain’t gonna tell me nothing Esau is the white people Jacob or the Black people
they were both most likely brown. it doesn't make sense that Jacob be served by Esau when white people had their foot on the necks of black people throughout history...
@@CaliPlays5651 they looked like Arabs
@@emmanuelrufai6471 Yes. the majority of all biblical figures, including Jesus was most likely brown. and im sure that there were plenty of biblical figures that were also black.
Everyone important to god in Bible are black people
Come out of nowhere bringing black and white, God doesn't care about the color of ur skins. It's peoples in this world whom the devil have controlled over and make them hate each other, the devil is our real enemies, the devil don't want us to succeed. And human is made in God image. The Bible don't talk about white and black.
God judges the heart it says ... but it says man's heart is desperately wicked. David was a man after Gods heart ... He knows which would believe.
This guy is a joke !!!!
You got that right. He comes straight out of a cracker Jack box
Esau is the modern day white race. Jacob is the modern day blackman, Indian, Mexican.
No Biblical scholar agrees to that not to mention your belief system has been debunked many times
Even if that is the case the Bible clearly states God loves everyone and Gentiles can be saved .
@@dude9318 i never said gentiles can't be saved. But God definitely doesn't love everyone. Because everyone doesn't love God. John 3:16 was referring to the 12 tribes of Israel. Not everyone! Learn the percepts buddy!
@@cezz1105 more verses than John 3:16 that suggests God loves everyone
Also are you a hebrew Israelite?
Because what is all this nonsense of esau being the modern day white race ?
@dude9318 I get so tired of explaining this to the ignorant of the Bible.
But I'll do it again even tho I know I might as well be talking to a wall 🙄.
God loves everybody right? Let's see what the Bible says about it.
Proverbs 8:17
“I love them that love me;
THE IGNORANT: NO GOD LOVES EVERYBODY
Romans 9:13
“As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.”
THE IGNORANT: NO, GOD LOVES EVERYBODY
John 17:9
“I pray for them: I pray NOT for the WORLD, but for them which thou hast given me;
2 esdras 6:56
54And after these, Adam also whom thou madest lord of all thy creatures, of him come wee all, and the people also whom thou hast chosen. 55All this haue I spoken before thee, O Lord, because thou madest the world for our sakes. 56As for the other people which also come of Adam, thou hast said that they are nothing, but be like vnto spittle:
Now read all those scriptures/percepts and tell me God loves everybody. He doesn't, because everybody don't love God.
Wake up!
@@cezz1105 You didn't answer my question of if you are a Hewbrew Israelite
You believe all white people are condemned to hell or something
Because that is what they believe
I wish I could just make up my own definitions too
What are you referring to?
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Yah God was not talking about the . Notice what God said to Rebekah "Gen 25:23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
✊🏿vs✊🏻 it's literally explaining the split of race off Lucifer (light bearer) planting his seed into mankind (NEPHILIUM). Cain was marked by God fled into land of NOD (Europe
The chosen ones went on boats & ships into slavery into Egypt (modern day america & all four corners of world & seas . This includes all the 12 tribes of Israel (ALL BLACK PEOPLE) NOT AFRICAN'S BUT NEGROES. The chosen came from darkness into marvelous light (GENEsis) the indigenous people (Judah meaning praise ) which is what Satan didn't wanna do when God was making plans for the furst creation of mankind. Satan said there mud people I'm made of light . Lololol it's all there who God's chosen people are. Jesus came into ministry looking for God's children so he gathered 12 different tribes of black men to follow him so there Children would be saved because there lost . It's literally right in the bible he told the gentile how dare you take from the children's table when she asked to hear the message of Christ the Messiah. This message is only for the lost nation black people have no flag no nation no nothing. WE BLACK PEOPLE ARE GOD'S CHOSEN CHILDREN.
Do you know those two nations of people are the so called african americans and the cuacasian? Once this is understood the bible makes a lot more sense.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
How many lands are jackals found to exist on? That should give a clue where Esau’s original land is.
Jackals are found in the Middle East, south Asia, eastern europe, far east like Thailand, central and south Africa, you're point?
@@antoniodelmar2525he means black back jackal
Because Esau is a carnal base man who hated his brother Jacob. The Edomites continue to persecute the Israelites until today!!!
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Is He the same God who doesn't show favoritism? Acts 10 v 34 and Romans 2 v 11?
So what I've picked from peoples' opinions in the replies is that this was a judgement about what they would do in the future, what was in their hearts, Jacob honoring the covenant and esau not honoring it
This basically means that God can hate a child before he is born and completely ruin the poor childs life just because. How awful.
All Praise To The Most High!!!!
@@nicolesamuels4679 daz rite
God is our creator he can do whatever he wants without him we wouldn't exist
@@Yahshuaismyeverything , that means he is a sadist? What a great god. It seems that the devil is not the biggest evil in Bible ^^ But i guess there is a deeper truth: Judaism is a religion invented by Jews. Of course it contains a lot of propaganda in which Jews and the jewish god are heros in their own stories. Continuations of this religion: Christianity and Islam however are not better. Abrahamic religions are just insane nonsense. Its better to be Atheist of believe in the god of ancestral religions eg. Odin, Thor, Zeus, ...
All praise to the most high! I fully support all of my KING's ways.
Read! Read! READ! It has nothing to do with Malachi or love! It has to do with “election,” as to “Who” God Wants in His Kingdom, and Why? Romans 9:16--- “It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s Mercy. But Mercy for what? Jacob and Esau were not yet born, and had not done good or evil? And after they were born, there was Jesus Christ. So, why God’s Mercy (unmerited pardon) before the children were yet born? This will Scare You!!! For the evil both had done “before” they were yet born from the womb?
God didn't hate esau, it was his earthly father that hated him! How do I know. Because my earthly father hates me. And Jesus tells us that he didn't hate Esau , esau is part of the 144,000.
Yes, God is Love but can Love be with hate together? God hates SIN and he who sins does not Love God. Can light exist in darkness?
God can't abide in him. So the logic would be Esau loved sin over God. For when we love God we depart from sin we hate it as much as He does.
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9: 11-13
NOTE "Just as it is written!" Well where is it written? It is written in Genesis 25: 23!
The Lord said to her, (Rebekah)
“Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.”
It was talking about nations not individuals! In there lives the older DID NOT serve the younger. But the Nations did!
When the Bible referred to Esau and Jacob it was referring to THE NATIONS THEY REPRESENTED NOT THE INDIVIDUALS.
Why would GOD hate anyone????
I have a question. Why won't God just love both of them equally? Was God unable in conditions as to choose both of them. Why getting in situation of rejection? Don't you think there some deep concept in which the Bible is trying to tell?
I WAS WAITING GOR THAT, OUR BLESSING...THE BLESSING THAT , JACOB'S MOTHER AND GOD AND HIS FATHER HAD HAD PROVADED HIM.....I KNOW, WE ARE NOT USING IT YET....NOW IT IS COMING AND IT IS COMING IN FUL FORCE, I NEW WHEN IT'S COMING, I WOULD HAVE KNOWN.....WHY DO WE NEED TO STRORGLE ABOUT IT, IT IS WRITTEN.....NO ONE CAN STOP GOD DESCISION, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE..WE DIDN'T FIGHT WITH IN NYOU WHEN IT WAS YOUR TURNED
Why do people qoute Paul more than they do Jesus
Abraham and Lot were the only ones who believed in Him. Everyone else were in idolatary. So yes, God loved Abraham more than everyone else.
Jesus Is King.!!! Jesus Loves You❤.!!! John 14:6
King James Bible
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me..!!! Follow Jesus Take The Narrow Path.!!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊
NAH JACOB DID MY BOY ESAU DIRTY WITH TAKING HIS BIRTH RIGHTS AND LYING TO TAKE HIS BLESSING.
The reason God favored Jacob over Esau, even though Jacob was deceitful to gain Esau's inheritance, is because the inheritance was the covenant God had made with Abraham. Jacob honored the covenant, but Esau did not. Esau was willing to trade the covenant for a bowl of food.
Seems that the best way to attack this issue is to discuss the word "hate" as used in the Bible.
The place that they named Israel. The original name was Negro land then they changed it to the land of Jacob. Then, when the black keyboards lights were defeated and kicked out of their land then they changed it to the land of Israel. The name of Israel. God said that he in the end times will allow his people to know who they are, and the truth shall be revealed. And guess what? It's happening now, as we speak all praises due to yahawashi
Everyone seems to be forgetting that the old testament is an allegory. It’s not about the people, Jacob and Esau nor is it about the nations that came from them. This is simply God loving faith and hating works. This is why it says that Esau could find no Place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears, meaning, no matter how hard you try, you can’t get salvation by works or begging.
But faith without work is dead
@@olayinkaoluwatobi1535 yes true faith will always result in a manifestation or a “work”
@@ptt3975 the two works hand in hand, no work without faith likewise no faith without work
Malachi is talking about the nation and the behavior of the two nations that are Jacob and Essau
It’s really about each nations and individuals faithfulness. This is consistent across genesis throughout the Old Testament ( Hebrew bible). It’s the same thing in the New Testament. It’s all about faithfulness and a relationship with GOD
God hates who He pleases. Period.
“Lest there be any FORNICATOR, or PROFANE person, as ESAU, who for one morsel of meat SOLD his birthright.” Hebrews 12:16
HERES A CLUE
THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE IS NOT HATE… HATE IS WOUNDED LOVE
ALSO CONSIDER THE WORD HATE NOW WHAT DID JESUS MEAN WHEN HE SAID THIS … ”If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.”-JESUS
PRAY AND ASK HIM