I have to say I really enjoyed the honest brief review. James seemed not to try to hide any cons a I respect him for that. Not many people are willing to admit that their bike has got also some negatives.
Got one, love it. Gets 4.6l/100 km (51mpg US, 61mpg UK) mileage for me as an average, I live near Calgary Alberta so constantly up and down in the foothills. Not many km's on it yet (approx 10,000) but a very easy riding machine and maybe a bit boring for some, but then I am a bit boring for some. LOL
Rode my 2013 from San Diego to Alaska, then up to Tuktoyutuk in NWT, Canada to dip my toes in the Arctic Ocean, then across the USA to dip my toes in the Atlantic Ocean and then home. Had two issues, the air box got full of water while riding through pouring rain for 700 miles (the bike still ran, just didn't run great) and the fork seals started to leak after 1000 miles of dirt roads. Amazing bike.
The 2010-2013 models had the restrictions in the lower gears. Short out the clutch interlock switch to derestrict; this gives a big advance of ignition at full-throttle, it's best to reflash the ECU. Again the 2010-2013 models have been known to have camchain tensioner rattle, it's just a quick swap for the update 2014- tensioners. The manual calls for valve clearance checks every 24,000 kms, but as the owner stated it's a pain, and in the real-word can be left to 50,000 kms if the engine is running well. 2014 models have no lower gear restrictions, and a quieter clutch. The XT1200ZE model has the electronically adjusted suspension and cruise control.
I've had to clean the fork seals once (fork removal not required) in 120,000km, so there's a knock against reliability ;) at 80km/h or less you can expect 3.5l/100k.
Ive had yamaha dt125, suzuki rm125, hoda cr 250 when i was young . In army i broke down some KTM 640,S .. . now last couple of years ive had yamaha fz6s with 2004 70 000+ km on it and not a sing problem.. now i ordered the new tenere 700 and its going to be my first brand new bike .. hope i will get it soon here in Finland.. Also i really love your opinions and videos ! thanks ! keep good videos coming !
Its a great bike, i bought my XT 1200 Z, 2011, 4 weeks ago with some modifications. I love this bike. I will also fix Touratech panniers and then off to greece in Oktober…
This is the best adv tourer available, have taken my 2014 up and over Lundins Neck pass, Wartrail pass and Sani pass, all serious passes here in South Africa. And it being a Yamaha, reliability is standard. Love my S10!!
This is a great video. I have had mine for over a year now and I love it. Upgraded it with a touratech shock and progressive springs and made the bike even better. I think this is one of the most underrated bikes in the adventure segment
I have the 2009 xt660z. 89k on the clock. Still love it. I was looking at an upgrade to xt1200z as the price has come down alot for used. However, i looked at all the things i could do to my xt660z and have reconsidered. The xt660z will be in my stable for many years to come. Loved the review and hope you guys had a great ride. Two wheels and a long windy fire road forever 😜🤪😁😉
I have a 1979 xs 650. same type of parallel twin. I have wanted a Super Tenere for a while. I like the shaft drive and wondered why more manufacturers don't do that. The BMW GS1200 is very comparable to it. Both wonderful bikes.
These bikes are bulletproof. The weight is an issue when you have to pick it up by yourself (so always ride with mates) and another downside is the relatively low ground clearance (compared to KTM and BMW). I was doing some hectic trail riding recently and put a good couple of dents in the bash plate (so it did its job, but a few extra centimeters of clearance would be good). I have had my 2017 model flashed and so I tend to ride it hard (in sport mode all the time) and I get 16 to 17 km/l (6,25 - 5,88 l/100km) - 38mpg in town. On the open road it depends on speed and wind.
Just an anecdote, but put 6,400 miles on a 2015 Super Tenere ES over the course of 3 years, and had zero issues with it at all, including starting up effortlessly after being garaged through each winter.
@@motorcycleadventures Well how bout I just go and buy the exact same model again? (Wife and I have regretted selling ours and are planning to replace it.)
My 2012 model has been great. I have put a battery in it and change the fluids and tires. It's like a way more powerful KLR, one of which is also in my garage.
Hi, I also have the 2011 model and I love it. One thing annoys me thogh: The vibrations in the handlebars at moderate/high speed. Have you noticet that? The solution seems to be to change the clutch basket to a model 2014. I think I wanna try that
Hi Pavlin! Didn't you ride this bike at all? I was just curious about the differences between this model and the Super Tenere that you had tasted in Germany in 2017...I have to admit that I'm thinkig about it as my next motocycle....
Word of warning if you have a secondhand pree 2014 super ten and you have not changed the came chain tensioner do so if you get any rattle on start up. Google the problem ?
I ride mine pretty regularly off road, and have even done a few baby jumps on it. Closest thing i have ever had to a spoke issue was when a spoke nipple backed out and cause 1 spoke to be just hanging loose on the wheel. Replaced the nipple and spoke, and havent had another issue since
They are prone to corrosion, Yamaha should have fitted stainless spokes. Cost difference to the bike? Not enough to worry about. Lets the bike down for a few pounds (yen whatever...)
Haha, it's nice to hear those mpg/ L/100km figures, but I never hear at what speeds you;re getting those;)) Because 80+mph / 130kph+ and you're looking at 7+ liters / 40mpg. Or it's just my bike a fluke;)) Valve clearance: I can confirm that they are in spec after 24 400 miles. How does the Super Tenere handle when overloaded by 30-40 kgs? What do I have to do to be able to over loaded to that level? Thanks! Cheers for the great content as always!
I'm getting between 4.5 and 5 l/per hundred @ 100 - 110 km/h over a full tank (riding to work type of riding). On a spirited ride it can be over 6 l/hundred
@@jamesbrown8173 Thank you for clarifying it!;)) So my bike is not worse than normal regarding to fuel consumption in regular circumstances, it is just me who makes the air resistance worse. I am 6'4" / 193cm, and I ride with touring screen plus a 10cm clip on screen.;)) A quick question though: how do you activate the reserve to make sense to the 23l tank? I ran out of fuel twice and I was never been able to put more than 19-20 liters in it. Thank you again for giving a rest to my soul regarding to my bikes fuel consumption!;))
@@albertjurcisin8944 Thank you for your reply! I've just changed to an FJR1300, which is gently on the highway but more thirsty in town. 5th gear, 120kph it can show between 4.2-4.5L/100km. What I find funny is that how easy to stall it.;)) It's definitely not as torquey down there as the Super Tenere. 100k police bike, so I'm guessing that plays into it too.
I know you're tall but did you have any trouble with the tall seat height? 33.1" is pretty darned tall; the Honda VFR1200x is even taller at 33.4". Any comments appreciated. Ciao!
The only issue I've had with mine is that it felt very lumpy like it was missing. After a test ride by a mechanic he said a ignition coil rod was faulty. The coil set are £600+ for genuine item but before you shell out for them smear some vaseline around the black banding on the coil. If its rusty you might need to replace. Afterwards the bike run fine like normal hand has done for about 10k.
Hi Andy, my 2015 super tenere is also very much jumpy. I have tried to fast rotate up and down the round detail under the tank - where the 2 throttle cables go and it got very very smooth. Unfortunately, it was just for a day ride. Now it is jumpy again. I will get to the dealer service on 31.07. Hope they will find the problem.
@@GeorgiGeorgiev-er8vj sounds like the throttle bodies need balancing. I recently fitted a K&N air filter which smoothed out the lower revs and gained a few more bhp.
Another great review on the bikes you are coming across Pavlin. Thank you. Can I ask though if you could do a review on the KLR? I have a 2016 model and very keen to hear your thoughts on it now that you have had chance to spend a month or so on it? Cheers
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I have to say I really enjoyed the honest brief review. James seemed not to try to hide any cons a I respect him for that. Not many people are willing to admit that their bike has got also some negatives.
Got one, love it. Gets 4.6l/100 km (51mpg US, 61mpg UK) mileage for me as an average, I live near Calgary Alberta so constantly up and down in the foothills. Not many km's on it yet (approx 10,000) but a very easy riding machine and maybe a bit boring for some, but then I am a bit boring for some. LOL
That economy matches my experience
boring is reliable. reliable is survival. survival is life. Sounds to me you are exactly enough just as you are.
That is exactly the same mpg I get from mine 👍
Add a wide set of bags and a heavy throttle still getting 42 mpg at 80mph on the intersrate.
@@Adventure-Outdoors Me too! Live near Calgary Alberta Canada, too.
Rode my 2013 from San Diego to Alaska, then up to Tuktoyutuk in NWT, Canada to dip my toes in the Arctic Ocean, then across the USA to dip my toes in the Atlantic Ocean and then home. Had two issues, the air box got full of water while riding through pouring rain for 700 miles (the bike still ran, just didn't run great) and the fork seals started to leak after 1000 miles of dirt roads. Amazing bike.
If you buy a bucket, than you needn't drive so many miles for tip your toes in water ; )
HJB 😂😂
This will be my next motorcycle, very good video, good luck on your trip
The 2010-2013 models had the restrictions in the lower gears. Short out the clutch interlock switch to derestrict; this gives a big advance of ignition at full-throttle, it's best to reflash the ECU. Again the 2010-2013 models have been known to have camchain tensioner rattle, it's just a quick swap for the update 2014- tensioners.
The manual calls for valve clearance checks every 24,000 kms, but as the owner stated it's a pain, and in the real-word can be left to 50,000 kms if the engine is running well.
2014 models have no lower gear restrictions, and a quieter clutch. The XT1200ZE model has the electronically adjusted suspension and cruise control.
Hi mate, any suggestions for the ECU flash? Victoria based
I've had to clean the fork seals once (fork removal not required) in 120,000km, so there's a knock against reliability ;) at 80km/h or less you can expect 3.5l/100k.
Ive had yamaha dt125, suzuki rm125, hoda cr 250 when i was young . In army i broke down some KTM 640,S .. . now last couple of years ive had yamaha fz6s with 2004 70 000+ km on it and not a sing problem.. now i ordered the new tenere 700 and its going to be my first brand new bike .. hope i will get it soon here in Finland.. Also i really love your opinions and videos ! thanks ! keep good videos coming !
Great guy you found there Pavlin, telling us how is, so refreshing!
Good old Yamaha , bullet proof motors `nuff said , cheers.
Its a great bike, i bought my XT 1200 Z, 2011, 4 weeks ago with some modifications. I love this bike. I will also fix Touratech panniers and then off to greece in Oktober…
This is the best adv tourer available, have taken my 2014 up and over Lundins Neck pass, Wartrail pass and Sani pass, all serious passes here in South Africa. And it being a Yamaha, reliability is standard. Love my S10!!
I bought one last month and still getting comfortable with it. It does do dirt roads extremely well. This review was spot on!
Good on you James. The lower seat height looks pretty good.
Been very happy with mine!
50k! Sure would like to see the T7!
WRW9751 the T7 might be the only bike that might get mine out from under me.
This is a great video. I have had mine for over a year now and I love it. Upgraded it with a touratech shock and progressive springs and made the bike even better. I think this is one of the most underrated bikes in the adventure segment
Pavlin thanks. You do these bike reviews so good.
I have the 2009 xt660z. 89k on the clock. Still love it. I was looking at an upgrade to xt1200z as the price has come down alot for used. However, i looked at all the things i could do to my xt660z and have reconsidered. The xt660z will be in my stable for many years to come. Loved the review and hope you guys had a great ride. Two wheels and a long windy fire road forever 😜🤪😁😉
I have a 1979 xs 650. same type of parallel twin. I have wanted a Super Tenere for a while. I like the shaft drive and wondered why more manufacturers don't do that. The BMW GS1200 is very comparable to it. Both wonderful bikes.
These bikes are bulletproof. The weight is an issue when you have to pick it up by yourself (so always ride with mates) and another downside is the relatively low ground clearance (compared to KTM and BMW). I was doing some hectic trail riding recently and put a good couple of dents in the bash plate (so it did its job, but a few extra centimeters of clearance would be good). I have had my 2017 model flashed and so I tend to ride it hard (in sport mode all the time) and I get 16 to 17 km/l (6,25 - 5,88 l/100km) - 38mpg in town. On the open road it depends on speed and wind.
Just an anecdote, but put 6,400 miles on a 2015 Super Tenere ES over the course of 3 years, and had zero issues with it at all, including starting up effortlessly after being garaged through each winter.
Well...this bike will last much longer than that!
@@motorcycleadventures Well how bout I just go and buy the exact same model again? (Wife and I have regretted selling ours and are planning to replace it.)
My 2012 model has been great. I have put a battery in it and change the fluids and tires. It's like a way more powerful KLR, one of which is also in my garage.
Great machine. Love mine. Heavy as hell, but after some time, you get used to it.
I’ve owned a V-Strom, a BMW GS and a Super Tenere’. The Super Tenere’ is the best by far. Not even close.
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hi, can you tell what you experience to be worse with the GS?
both guys are great!!
Thanks!
The australian way of english was a real challenge for me to understand. I enjoyed it)
It is what it is!
James looks like a really nice fella to ride with
Great machine i love my 2011 model.
Hi, I also have the 2011 model and I love it. One thing annoys me thogh: The vibrations in the handlebars at moderate/high speed. Have you noticet that? The solution seems to be to change the clutch basket to a model 2014. I think I wanna try that
Good well balanced review, thanks.
Great bike, love mine.
I like this motorcycle 🏍 a lot. This one the color the specs👍🏻💪🏻
Glad you like it!
You've gotta love the Aussies...great attitudes 🤣 get on with it...its what its for 👏
How reliable is a Yamaha? What kind of question is that?
Allways a plasure watching this videos after a hard and long day at the job! How about the tent ? Did you used it in this trip ?
Thanks Catalin! No, it was to cold.
Hi Pavlin! Didn't you ride this bike at all? I was just curious about the differences between this model and the Super Tenere that you had tasted in Germany in 2017...I have to admit that I'm thinkig about it as my next motocycle....
I didn't! No big difference I thought.
@@motorcycleadventures Hi! I think so. Super Tenere is a good ole dinosaur.-::))
Real nice bike. I like them very much.
Word of warning if you have a secondhand pree 2014 super ten and you have not changed the came chain tensioner do so if you get any rattle on start up. Google the problem ?
How about the spokes of the rims? I heard they are prone to breaking...
To trash the wheels, You have to push a 600lb bike harder than 98% of riders are capable of.
I ride mine pretty regularly off road, and have even done a few baby jumps on it. Closest thing i have ever had to a spoke issue was when a spoke nipple backed out and cause 1 spoke to be just hanging loose on the wheel. Replaced the nipple and spoke, and havent had another issue since
They are prone to corrosion, Yamaha should have fitted stainless spokes. Cost difference to the bike? Not enough to worry about. Lets the bike down for a few pounds (yen whatever...)
very cool pal!
101495km on a 2010 still running as good as new
Haha, it's nice to hear those mpg/ L/100km figures, but I never hear at what speeds you;re getting those;)) Because 80+mph / 130kph+ and you're looking at 7+ liters / 40mpg. Or it's just my bike a fluke;))
Valve clearance: I can confirm that they are in spec after 24 400 miles.
How does the Super Tenere handle when overloaded by 30-40 kgs? What do I have to do to be able to over loaded to that level? Thanks!
Cheers for the great content as always!
I'm getting between 4.5 and 5 l/per hundred @ 100 - 110 km/h over a full tank (riding to work type of riding). On a spirited ride it can be over 6 l/hundred
@@jamesbrown8173 Thank you for clarifying it!;)) So my bike is not worse than normal regarding to fuel consumption in regular circumstances, it is just me who makes the air resistance worse. I am 6'4" / 193cm, and I ride with touring screen plus a 10cm clip on screen.;)) A quick question though: how do you activate the reserve to make sense to the 23l tank? I ran out of fuel twice and I was never been able to put more than 19-20 liters in it.
Thank you again for giving a rest to my soul regarding to my bikes fuel consumption!;))
@@V4zz33 This is the first test that declares below 6 liters/ 100 km consumption. All the others are talking closer to 7.
@@albertjurcisin8944 Thank you for your reply!
I've just changed to an FJR1300, which is gently on the highway but more thirsty in town. 5th gear, 120kph it can show between 4.2-4.5L/100km.
What I find funny is that how easy to stall it.;)) It's definitely not as torquey down there as the Super Tenere.
100k police bike, so I'm guessing that plays into it too.
@@V4zz33 Wow, that´s an excellent consumption for a large bike (FJR)! Enjoy!
Excellent bike very durable machine.
Not a better large capacity adventure bike on the planet.The shaft drive just sweetens the pot.👍👍
Good
I know you're tall but did you have any trouble with the tall seat height? 33.1" is pretty darned tall; the Honda VFR1200x is even taller at 33.4". Any comments appreciated. Ciao!
It is fine for me.
How went icu reflash? :)
Thanks for that.
The only issue I've had with mine is that it felt very lumpy like it was missing. After a test ride by a mechanic he said a ignition coil rod was faulty. The coil set are £600+ for genuine item but before you shell out for them smear some vaseline around the black banding on the coil. If its rusty you might need to replace. Afterwards the bike run fine like normal hand has done for about 10k.
Hi Andy, my 2015 super tenere is also very much jumpy. I have tried to fast rotate up and down the round detail under the tank - where the 2 throttle cables go and it got very very smooth. Unfortunately, it was just for a day ride. Now it is jumpy again. I will get to the dealer service on 31.07. Hope they will find the problem.
@@GeorgiGeorgiev-er8vj sounds like the throttle bodies need balancing. I recently fitted a K&N air filter which smoothed out the lower revs and gained a few more bhp.
i dont think a differential is an accurate way to describe it because that’s usually for 2 wheels so that they can spin independently
Fair enough!
Suzuki V Strom 1000 or this I wonder?
900.000 km? Did I hear that correctly? Although, considering its lineage, not that surprising...a bit much bike IMO though.
90,000km
Well, that's still very impressive. Thanks for putting that right.
Damn, if you actually ride 900.000km on that you would probably need at least 5 lower back rebuilds.
I've heard tell of 300,000 mile S10's
why doesn't it have suspension shields
Another great review on the bikes you are coming across Pavlin. Thank you. Can I ask though if you could do a review on the KLR? I have a 2016 model and very keen to hear your thoughts on it now that you have had chance to spend a month or so on it? Cheers
I will do it after few days when I reach Melbourne
@@motorcycleadventures OK thanks Pavlin, I look forward to it.
How much one
Depends.
@@motorcycleadventures u see that one u are seeing right there in the pic that super T...is the one that I want
@@motorcycleadventures can u just guess by refering to the cheapest
what is your height?
185cm
hello james
Hello
i like the green bike on the back ground better
:)
looks like Pavlin was not interested in this bike at all, why. it's Yamaha after you your favorite brand
good
Thanks
they need to have a good cold beer after....
Can't go wrong on a yamaha..
Honda crosstourer vs super tenere
The battle of the elephants!
@@motorcycleadventures Would be interesting as both bikes are top notch and very underrated.
The best
If you say so!
Come to India again, ride new Xpulse 200, give us your view point.