Well done! Probably the best rundown on JT shocks I've come across. I've had Falcon 3.3's on mine for over a year and can attest to just how good they are. Best set of shocks I've had on any of my vehicles. Great video once again!
Peter, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Your knowledge and insight is always appreciated. The video may be on the long side, but I hope someone can get some useful info from it.
Thanks for sharing your thought process, research and install experience with these shocks. I'm trying to figure out what comes next to replace my AEV (Bilstein) 5100 monotubes and this video is incredibly helpful. Great to see you back making videos!
Hey! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.. yes, been on a bit i a hiatus with the baby. Also I hadn’t really needed to upgrade anything. The 5100’s are a great stock upgrade and the 5160’s would be an even better replacement . The 8100’s are what come in the dualsport lift and you may consider those, but they are pricey. These falcon work great for the price and will be similar in feel of the bilstein because the too are digressive shocks. Get with Jason who I mentioned at the end for any of your parts inquires. He will get you a good price 🤝
I have no regrets going that route and I’m really looking forward to how they adjust as I load down the rig… We have a new tent and trailer in the works so really going to put the shocks performance to the test. Atlee get with Jason for your parts connection… Link is in the description.
That’s what I do… Try to jam pack as much information in a video without wasting too much of your time… Glad you found it helpful… I have about 30,000 miles on them now and still very happy with the investment
When I was watching the video you turned the shock shaft to demonstrate the soft and hard setting but you turn it a few times how do you know if it’s in the heart setting or the soft setting if it keeps turning in other words? How would you compare these shocks to a fox 2.5 remote reservoir or similar in king? If I remember correctly these are not gas charged? I’m in the process of trying to figure out which shocks to get for my new gladiator with 4.5 lift on it definitely want on road handling on winding roads and then the adjustability when I go off road. Thanks for the extremely thorough video👍👍👍
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. For the soft/performance setting the shaft must be at “FULL EXTENSION” to engage the bypass. You will feel it engage either setting as you turn one way or the other… You can turn infinitely in either Direction to engage your preferred setting, but as soon as you start going the opposite direction while at “FULL EXTENSION”, it will either start opening or closing the bypass valve depending on which way you’re going.. for example, if you want the soft setting, and you rotate it counterclockwise at “FULL EXTENSION” and are putting it into the bracket but you have to rotate it clockwise to get it in the bracket, you would start closing the bypass. You would need to go one more full revolution counter clockwise and then line up with the bracket. Most cases you will need to compress the shock to get it in the bracket, so as soon as you start compressing it disengages from the bypass gear and you can turn the shaft any direction without effecting the mode setting.. these are digressive valve shocks (similar to icon and most bilstein), kings are linear valve like fox at the other end of the valve spectrum. For what you’re looking to do, these shocks will be perfect.. I have about 5000 miles on them now and they have been so much better on and off-road than the MOPAR 2.5” fox shocks , and I thought i liked those.. 😂
72k miles of smiles on the JT, and got 50k out of the MOPAR fox shocks before they started to get tired.. about 62k total miles on MOPAR suspension lift
What is that red and black thing sticking out of the grill near the passenger side? Looks like the colors Bolt Lock uses. I bought a new set of Fox Shocks for my JLUR for the 4" lift I haven't installed yet, hopefully I can sell them. I heard about others saying that Fox was soft on body roll but that was after I already bought them. My JLUR came with Fox and they seemed alright to me.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. The red thing you’re talking about is an Anderson plug I have as a positive disconnect for my winch… It’s connected directly to the battery. This also allows me to use the plug to connect to for 12 V accessories and jumper cables to jump vehicles without having to pop my hood.. You should be fine with your fox, I’ve ridden both Fox and Bilstein for years and waver back and forth linear vs progressive. I did like the fox 2.5 MOPAR shocks alot, but they’re definitely soft by comparison of others. I think I prefer digressive on the 4/5 link coil spring vehicles and linear on everything else.
Thanks for a great video. Considering getting these and wondering if your mopar lift is the 2 inch that came from mopar directly. The dealer installed a mopar lift in 2022 along with the fox shocks and I found someone locally that is selling the falcon for the 3.5-4.5 lift and I believe my lift is shorter and wondering if it will still work.
Yes, mine is the 2” MOPAR lift installed after truck purchase. (If it’s the 2” MOPAR, Your shocks should be silver with black writing) as mentioned in the video the lift height doesn’t really matter on the front as the compression and extension lengths are the same for 2”-3” & 3.5-4.5”. the rear does differ though. I went with the 3.5-4.5” because I may swap for 3.5” Clayton springs in the future and didn’t want to be too short. The main thing you should consider is longer brake lines atleast in the rear. Clayton and teraflex sell them. If you’re not flexing much then you should be fine without the brake line extensions.
I just installed these today. I noticed your rear shocks you have the piggy back / adjust knob on the top, but the way mine were labeled, I had to install with the adjust knob facing down? Also noticed with the piggy back reservoir seemed like it could hit the frame under flex if it was installed the way you had it.🤷🏻♂️
The JK rears are typically knob or “body side” down. JL’s are body up side but knob facing down for access. I have no concern with the shock body contacting the frame when flexing.. been on some pretty technical trails with plenty of flexing and not had an issue. Double check your past numbers are proper for the JT rear. The body of the shock is clearly stamped with the model of the vehicle and lift height... JL and JT will be the same configuration on the front.
Go to 1min in on this teraflex video and you can see the position they are in.. they match mine .. you either have the wrong models or installed backward and/or on the wrong side of the vehicle. Rear shock #1 on driver and #2 on passenger. Step 9 on the install sheet shows how it should be ua-cam.com/video/p66vf_bisao/v-deo.htmlsi=tyXvxJoXlioGfknY
Great video. Personally I wouldn't run Falcons unless they are the adjustable like yours. I've found digressive shocks to be terrible on washboard roads.
And that’s exactly why I went with adjustable… All other issues I’ve seen said to skip the monotube for this reason… I’ve also run icon and Bilstein monotube in the past and they perform well on everything, but wash boards undeveloped roads.. so far I’m liking them more than any shock I found, including Fox monotubes
How would you compare the fox 2.5 adjustable shocks compared to the 3.3 Falcons? i’m considering the Falcons on my gladiator sometimes I tow a teardrop trailer that set up for off-road, most of my use is driving a few hours or more to the mountains and then going over 150 miles round-trip off road on forestry roads, I also do a lot of day trips not towing the trailer and in northern California we have a lot of elevation gain and loss with winding roads so I’d like the adjustability to have on road handling, the problem is I’m spoiled after coming from a bronco raptor with that crazy comfort but also good handling, I get confused about the Falcons, Do you think these would be able to reduce body roll on for example downhill decreasing radius turns at 60 miles an hour? Anyway just trying to ask folks for their advice I appreciate your video thank you👍👍👍
I asked exactly the same questions before going falcon and ultimately ended up going falcon based on the feedback… Fox makes a great shock, but by design (linear valving) it’s going to be a little more squishy, response, upfront, and then increase resistance… My buddy has a Mojave and 3.5” Clayton lift with the adjustable fox, and afterMine is transitioning to Falcons.. @ instagram.com/the_offroad_chronicles?igsh=MXBscHduZGxxaWRxbA==riding in. There are a handful of other big names out there that are rolling, falcon as well with towing, and still do a fair share of off roading
Pretty much just convinced me on the 3.3 falcons. I have a 2022 diesel with a bed rack and tent and drawer system. Heavy build. The aev hd springs are great but the blistien 8100 are way too soft on the rebound. Long trails they are great. No fade. The bumps are very smooth on the initial bump, but the rebound is too soft. The jeep will bounce a few times after that initial hit. I wish they had an adjustment. They do have an advanced shock that has those adjustment but those are around 1400 a shock.
@WolfOverland these with solve that problem.. I have 2 buddies that run them on their diesels as well.. they actually sold me on these for my gasser.. 🤝
I actually went 3.5”-5” (which technically only affects the rear specs) because I plan to go 3.5” Clayton springs this year. On falcon front shocks the specs are all the same for 2” thru 5”.. so it’s up to decide if planning on going higher or staying where you’re at.. The rears will have a 2.1” travel difference between the two length options
Only a lift or increase entire size would require increasing the bump stop height … However, by increasing the shock length you might consider extended brake lines
Typical lifespan of a shock is between 35-50k miles, but that could be shorter or longer depending on how you use your vehicle. These shocks come with a 3-year warranty… I hope to get 50k miles out of these. One main advantage of these shocks is they are rebuildable.
Funny you should ask, I have a video just for that! To answer simply it’s a MOPAR 2” hybrid with some other beefy components. I absolutely love it. If you have questions or want connections for the best pricing, shoot me an email at JKHartel3@gmail.com ua-cam.com/video/jz02ZX8oG-E/v-deo.htmlsi=V6nJARAbFB1lZ6i6
It’s an investment for sure.. would’ve hurt to spend more, would regret to spend less… It’s worth it in the end for a dependable shock, especially if you use it
Well done! Probably the best rundown on JT shocks I've come across. I've had Falcon 3.3's on mine for over a year and can attest to just how good they are. Best set of shocks I've had on any of my vehicles. Great video once again!
Peter, thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Your knowledge and insight is always appreciated. The video may be on the long side, but I hope someone can get some useful info from it.
What lift kit are you running it on ?
How does this not have more views? This is perfect!!!!!!
Well.. you’re currently helping the algorithm by commenting.. thank you! Share if ya like 😂🤝
Thanks for sharing your thought process, research and install experience with these shocks. I'm trying to figure out what comes next to replace my AEV (Bilstein) 5100 monotubes and this video is incredibly helpful. Great to see you back making videos!
Hey! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.. yes, been on a bit i a hiatus with the baby. Also I hadn’t really needed to upgrade anything. The 5100’s are a great stock upgrade and the 5160’s would be an even better replacement . The 8100’s are what come in the dualsport lift and you may consider those, but they are pricey. These falcon work great for the price and will be similar in feel of the bilstein because the too are digressive shocks. Get with Jason who I mentioned at the end for any of your parts inquires. He will get you a good price 🤝
Well done. As all of your videos. This will help with an upcoming rebuild of my JLU suspension and shocks.
I have no regrets going that route and I’m really looking forward to how they adjust as I load down the rig… We have a new tent and trailer in the works so really going to put the shocks performance to the test. Atlee get with Jason for your parts connection… Link is in the description.
I found this video very helpful. It answered the many questions I had with the Falcon shocks.
That’s what I do… Try to jam pack as much information in a video without wasting too much of your time… Glad you found it helpful… I have about 30,000 miles on them now and still very happy with the investment
Thanks for the great review.
You bet! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
Great presentation , very helpful , thanks 👍🏼
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… already 10,000 miles on them and love them!!
Great video and information! Thanks
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… Happy to help
well done video sir!
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment… I always appreciate your feedback🤝
Thanks for the details.
You bet! Let me know if you have any questions! 25k on them so far! Love them!
Fantastic video!
Thanks! Hope it helps! Let me know if you have any questions !
When I was watching the video you turned the shock shaft to demonstrate the soft and hard setting but you turn it a few times how do you know if it’s in the heart setting or the soft setting if it keeps turning in other words? How would you compare these shocks to a fox 2.5 remote reservoir or similar in king? If I remember correctly these are not gas charged? I’m in the process of trying to figure out which shocks to get for my new gladiator with 4.5 lift on it definitely want on road handling on winding roads and then the adjustability when I go off road. Thanks for the extremely thorough video👍👍👍
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.
For the soft/performance setting the shaft must be at “FULL EXTENSION” to engage the bypass. You will feel it engage either setting as you turn one way or the other… You can turn infinitely in either Direction to engage your preferred setting, but as soon as you start going the opposite direction while at “FULL EXTENSION”, it will either start opening or closing the bypass valve depending on which way you’re going..
for example, if you want the soft setting, and you rotate it counterclockwise at “FULL EXTENSION” and are putting it into the bracket but you have to rotate it clockwise to get it in the bracket, you would start closing the bypass. You would need to go one more full revolution counter clockwise and then line up with the bracket. Most cases you will need to compress the shock to get it in the bracket, so as soon as you start compressing it disengages from the bypass gear and you can turn the shaft any direction without effecting the mode setting..
these are digressive valve shocks (similar to icon and most bilstein), kings are linear valve like fox at the other end of the valve spectrum.
For what you’re looking to do, these shocks will be perfect.. I have about 5000 miles on them now and they have been so much better on and off-road than the MOPAR 2.5” fox shocks , and I thought i liked those.. 😂
@@GatorOverland Thank you for that thorough answer I appreciate you putting in the time to do that, have an awesome rest of the weekend👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@jonluchessi1643 happy to help.. looking forward to hearing feedback on your 3.5” setup.. assuming Clayton?
@@GatorOverland rockcrawler
@@FieldWorxoverlandadventures great products.. !!
Looks great. How many miles do you have now?
72k miles of smiles on the JT, and got 50k out of the MOPAR fox shocks before they started to get tired.. about 62k total miles on MOPAR suspension lift
What is that red and black thing sticking out of the grill near the passenger side? Looks like the colors Bolt Lock uses.
I bought a new set of Fox Shocks for my JLUR for the 4" lift I haven't installed yet, hopefully I can sell them. I heard about others saying that Fox was soft on body roll but that was after I already bought them. My JLUR came with Fox and they seemed alright to me.
Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. The red thing you’re talking about is an Anderson plug I have as a positive disconnect for my winch… It’s connected directly to the battery. This also allows me to use the plug to connect to for 12 V accessories and jumper cables to jump vehicles without having to pop my hood..
You should be fine with your fox, I’ve ridden both Fox and Bilstein for years and waver back and forth linear vs progressive. I did like the fox 2.5 MOPAR shocks alot, but they’re definitely soft by comparison of others. I think I prefer digressive on the 4/5 link coil spring vehicles and linear on everything else.
@@GatorOverland Okay thanks.
Thanks for a great video. Considering getting these and wondering if your mopar lift is the 2 inch that came from mopar directly. The dealer installed a mopar lift in 2022 along with the fox shocks and I found someone locally that is selling the falcon for the 3.5-4.5 lift and I believe my lift is shorter and wondering if it will still work.
Yes, mine is the 2” MOPAR lift installed after truck purchase. (If it’s the 2” MOPAR, Your shocks should be silver with black writing) as mentioned in the video the lift height doesn’t really matter on the front as the compression and extension lengths are the same for 2”-3” & 3.5-4.5”. the rear does differ though. I went with the 3.5-4.5” because I may swap for 3.5” Clayton springs in the future and didn’t want to be too short. The main thing you should consider is longer brake lines atleast in the rear. Clayton and teraflex sell them. If you’re not flexing much then you should be fine without the brake line extensions.
I just installed these today. I noticed your rear shocks you have the piggy back / adjust knob on the top, but the way mine were labeled, I had to install with the adjust knob facing down? Also noticed with the piggy back reservoir seemed like it could hit the frame under flex if it was installed the way you had it.🤷🏻♂️
The JK rears are typically knob or “body side” down. JL’s are body up side but knob facing down for access. I have no concern with the shock body contacting the frame when flexing.. been on some pretty technical trails with plenty of flexing and not had an issue. Double check your past numbers are proper for the JT rear. The body of the shock is clearly stamped with the model of the vehicle and lift height... JL and JT will be the same configuration on the front.
Go to 1min in on this teraflex video and you can see the position they are in.. they match mine .. you either have the wrong models or installed backward and/or on the wrong side of the vehicle. Rear shock #1 on driver and #2 on passenger. Step 9 on the install sheet shows how it should be
ua-cam.com/video/p66vf_bisao/v-deo.htmlsi=tyXvxJoXlioGfknY
Great video. Personally I wouldn't run Falcons unless they are the adjustable like yours. I've found digressive shocks to be terrible on washboard roads.
And that’s exactly why I went with adjustable… All other issues I’ve seen said to skip the monotube for this reason… I’ve also run icon and Bilstein monotube in the past and they perform well on everything, but wash boards undeveloped roads.. so far I’m liking them more than any shock I found, including Fox monotubes
I have the 3.3s and on soft it is similar to the stock shocks on washboards
How would you compare the fox 2.5 adjustable shocks compared to the 3.3 Falcons? i’m considering the Falcons on my gladiator sometimes I tow a teardrop trailer that set up for off-road, most of my use is driving a few hours or more to the mountains and then going over 150 miles round-trip off road on forestry roads, I also do a lot of day trips not towing the trailer and in northern California we have a lot of elevation gain and loss with winding roads so I’d like the adjustability to have on road handling, the problem is I’m spoiled after coming from a bronco raptor with that crazy comfort but also good handling, I get confused about the Falcons, Do you think these would be able to reduce body roll on for example downhill decreasing radius turns at 60 miles an hour? Anyway just trying to ask folks for their advice I appreciate your video thank you👍👍👍
I asked exactly the same questions before going falcon and ultimately ended up going falcon based on the feedback… Fox makes a great shock, but by design (linear valving) it’s going to be a little more squishy, response, upfront, and then increase resistance… My buddy has a Mojave and 3.5” Clayton lift with the adjustable fox, and afterMine is transitioning to Falcons.. @ instagram.com/the_offroad_chronicles?igsh=MXBscHduZGxxaWRxbA==riding in.
There are a handful of other big names out there that are rolling, falcon as well with towing, and still do a fair share of off roading
@@GatorOverland 👍👍👍👍
Pretty much just convinced me on the 3.3 falcons. I have a 2022 diesel with a bed rack and tent and drawer system. Heavy build. The aev hd springs are great but the blistien 8100 are way too soft on the rebound. Long trails they are great. No fade. The bumps are very smooth on the initial bump, but the rebound is too soft. The jeep will bounce a few times after that initial hit. I wish they had an adjustment. They do have an advanced shock that has those adjustment but those are around 1400 a shock.
@WolfOverland these with solve that problem.. I have 2 buddies that run them on their diesels as well.. they actually sold me on these for my gasser.. 🤝
@@GatorOverland thanks. I need a set now.
I’d like to replace my Mopar shocks, did you get the 2-3” Falcon shocks for Mopar upgrade setup?
I actually went 3.5”-5” (which technically only affects the rear specs) because I plan to go 3.5” Clayton springs this year.
On falcon front shocks the specs are all the same for 2” thru 5”.. so it’s up to decide if planning on going higher or staying where you’re at..
The rears will have a 2.1” travel difference between the two length options
Did you have to extend bump stops?
Only a lift or increase entire size would require increasing the bump stop height … However, by increasing the shock length you might consider extended brake lines
Is your Gladiator a diesel? Wondering for fitment
It’s a gasser, but they do have diesel specific shocks in the same segment
2-3” pn# 14-02-33-400-152
3.5-4.5” pn# 14-02-33-400-202
Quick question bro how often you need to replace those shocks?
Typical lifespan of a shock is between 35-50k miles, but that could be shorter or longer depending on how you use your vehicle. These shocks come with a 3-year warranty… I hope to get 50k miles out of these. One main advantage of these shocks is they are rebuildable.
What lift/spring setup are you using?
Funny you should ask, I have a video just for that! To answer simply it’s a MOPAR 2” hybrid with some other beefy components. I absolutely love it. If you have questions or want connections for the best pricing, shoot me an email at JKHartel3@gmail.com
ua-cam.com/video/jz02ZX8oG-E/v-deo.htmlsi=V6nJARAbFB1lZ6i6
Rich people 🫵😤
It’s an investment for sure.. would’ve hurt to spend more, would regret to spend less… It’s worth it in the end for a dependable shock, especially if you use it