Big Changes for 2025 Jeep JL Wrangler/JT Gladiator (Is the manual dead?)

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @thepottles6819
    @thepottles6819 8 днів тому +3

    in my opinion, you have the PERFECT trim for your gladiator... the hard top, tan leather, gator color and 6 speed manual. if there was a gladiator available in that option, I would snatch it up. nice job picking it up when you did

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  8 днів тому

      Ding ding… Some called this a unicorn… I do wish they made a diesel manual , but who knows one day we might stick a hemi in it😂

  • @edwhite4992
    @edwhite4992 Місяць тому +6

    My Gladiator is the most fun truck I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned many.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +2

      Totally agree! My favorite vehicle of many owned.

    • @JR-ut1yx
      @JR-ut1yx 22 дні тому +1

      Me2

  • @jeepboyz12
    @jeepboyz12 Місяць тому +4

    Side note, it'd be wonderful if Jeep could dedicate some resources into adding a heating element to the LED Headlamp lenses for inclimate weather. I know a lot of people that don't have to deal with this issue, but while driving in the snow, especially wet snow, it accumulates on the LED lamps and becomes nearly impossible to see. It would be great to see an upgrade in that fashion for future models as well!

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      I’ve experienced this myself and it sucks to drive in when they are caked up.

    • @kevinvoyer5053
      @kevinvoyer5053 Місяць тому +2

      I suggest looking into the MORIMOTO TWO STROKE 4.0 LED bulbs, that have a unique cooling fan, that takes the air inside the dust cover, then sends it thought the aluminum housing that holds the Cree LED elements to cool them down, but then blows the heated air towards the clear cover, in an effort to help melt some accumulated snow and ice. That did a great job doing so in my last truck’s headlights, a 2019 Colorado! But their not cheep, but mine were three years old when I traded the truck in for a new Gladiator, that I’m going to be forced to exchanged the awful halogens for the MORIMOTO LED’s, at $200! But worked outstanding.

  • @airtek4809
    @airtek4809 Місяць тому +18

    My gladiator is the absolute best vehicle I have ever owned.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Same!! Thanks taking the time to watch and comment!

    • @xanderjackson8518
      @xanderjackson8518 Місяць тому +4

      Same here.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 Місяць тому +2

      Congratulations. Great trucks. Is it your 1st vehicle?

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      @dvader3263 no, I’ve owned 8 vehicles from full-size 4x4’s to hot rods.. this is probably my favorite ..

    • @gmenelson
      @gmenelson Місяць тому +2

      Same

  • @silverlover5817
    @silverlover5817 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I'm planning to order the 2025 2-door 6-speed manual transmission Wrangler Sport sometime next year, and it will be my dream vehicle and will keep it for life. 🚙

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      We’re on the same track. This manual gladiator is my dream vehicle too.. love it! Keep in touch, let me know how you like your JL-M..

  • @TorieDH
    @TorieDH Місяць тому +4

    The gladiator being a manual was really the only reason I was bought it. I love this thing but i dont know if i would get another one if its auto only. Totally understand why they did it tho. Hate to see it😢. On another note. I enjoy the way you format ur videos, you should do a "how to" manual off-road. Gladiator is my 2nd standard car but i am a little hesitent about taking it off road. I am new to off roading.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I do have a manual how to.. that’s a pretty good idea for doing an offroad specific how to. I do have a how to, but it’s not specific to off roading, but does explain a few things. Start at the 10:00 or so. ua-cam.com/video/IteJM9cbBK4/v-deo.htmlsi=evQnf3QYP0KL8v76

  • @jerryjohnson7348
    @jerryjohnson7348 Місяць тому +6

    Manual transmission is the only reason why I got my gladiator

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Same!! 🤘🏼

    • @Clanc54R
      @Clanc54R Місяць тому +2

      Same but my Tacoma. Even in 19 the Tacoma and Gladiator were the only available manual trucks. So my decision was only between the two.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      @Clanc54R I do like the Tacoma abilities, but cant handle the seat position being so close to the floor. Had a 4runner and couldn’t comfortably drive more than a few hours before stretching… in the JT I only need to stop for fuel, no stretching involved 😂

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 3 дні тому +1

      Me too!

  • @krisorendorff
    @krisorendorff Місяць тому +2

    I Love, my new 2024 Jeep Wrangler 4 door V6 - my first ever Jeep!!

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +2

      Welcome 90k on my 2020 (also first Jeep) and still love it!

  • @bobvedder2451
    @bobvedder2451 Місяць тому +3

    I chose an automatic for my '21 gladiator because of the increased towing over the manual

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      Make total sense.. anything more than the manual 4500 lbs towing is worthy.. thankfully I don’t tow often, and when I do it’s not much weight..

  • @wadevincent
    @wadevincent Місяць тому +2

    I always enjoy your videos!!

  • @backcountryportal4774
    @backcountryportal4774 Місяць тому +2

    I'm glad I got the manual JL for 2024!

  • @backwoodstherapy
    @backwoodstherapy Місяць тому +3

    With the Gladiator now getting standard power locks and automatic transmission that results in a drastic price cut for the way _most_ people would buy the truck. Before, if you wanted that, you had to get a Sport S with the automatic transmission option which would set you back almost $44k for the nighthawk or $45k for a sport s. This effectively makes the a gladiator about $5k cheaper.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      You’re right on par with that! Less allocation of parts will reduce costs as well.. hoping to see $10k drop 😂

    • @backwoodstherapy
      @backwoodstherapy Місяць тому +1

      @@GatorOverland I’ve seen 2024 Sport S models with the auto transmission for about $40k brand new right _now,_ so I’m hoping in a couple years I can pick up a Sport or Sport S with the max tow (rubicon axles and 4.10 gears, baby) for about $30k. I’d love to have a truck again and my JLU has gotten so off road capable (3” teraflex lift, 35s) it’s not as comfortable as it used to be (gonna try to fix that with better shocks and changing tires from E load rating to C) and a Max tow Sport with a leveling kit and 35s would be a nice support vehicle and much more comfortable daily driver.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      @backwoodstherapy 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @kevinvoyer5053
    @kevinvoyer5053 Місяць тому +1

    Yea I bought a new Gladiator Sport S about 8 weeks ago and 2,700 effortlessly comfortable miles on all types of surfaces. Coming out from two consecutive Colorados, a 2016 Ext Cab 4x4 Z71, V6 with tow package, then after we both retired and needed just one vehicle, we wanted a Gladiator when released in late 2019, but they were so expensive at least $48k for auto hardtop, without any convenience like power windows or locks. So we test drove every mid sized truck and ended up with a 2019 Colorado WT 4x4, V6, with every available option in the base trim. That meant ONSTAR 4 G LTE WIFI. 7” touch screen, 6 speakers, color match bumpers and door handles, tow package with auto lock rear. That we used to tow a 26’ Travel Trailer at a Cat Scale certified 10,250 lbs CGVW! With ease and comfort all up and down the East coast and west to Pigeon Forge and Galveston, TX, at a total of 68,000 trouble free total mileage. Then I found the Gladiator, sold the Travel Trailer so no need to tow. But the biggest plus? Was a $15,000 discount on a $51,000 msrp! The ride on and off road is definitely better than the Colorado, but handling not as precise. I do plan on adding Bilstein 5100 shocks, that were fantastic in the Colorado. Plus upgrade the tires at some point, although I really like the wheels, that comes close to matching the Granite Crystal Metallic paint, that came with BridgeStone Dueler HT in size 245/75-17 @ 31.6”, that are great in the rain and dry roads, not too bad in sand, but I would like only up to 32-33”, not too wide. The black hardtop roof looks great, I’ve added some carbon fiber trim pieces over the fog light surrounds, fender vents, plastic panel under the wipers and covers over the windshield tie downs on the hood. The only option it doesn’t have I miss are LED headlights and fog lights, every other light all in an out are LED! So I’ll add LED bulbs at some point as the lights suck at night, especially when the days get shorter. The reason I heard the 2025 Wrangler will not be available with 3.6 automatic, is due only to all the left overs sitting unsold! That stillantis wants folks to buy a left over first. I’ve read the manual is geared too high, that’s why people are burning clutches, due to gearing and not enough experience.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      WOW!! thanks for the valued comment! and i couldn't agree more. I too came from a long line of fullsize 4x4's including a 2014 silverado and despite the reduction in power, the gladiator is the most comfortable and fun truck ive owned. Its not the most nimble in the corners, but it has my back getting me confidently most anywhere i steer it. I did a review of the auxito bulbs a while back after i upgraded my wifes Jeep headlights to LED. Literally a night and day difference. Here is my evaluation of them ua-cam.com/video/MrbQwSHi-gY/v-deo.html and the model# for the current JL/JT replacement is (20-23) Jeep Gladiator H13/9008 Low+High Beam Combo Bulb 80w/16kLM- amzn.to/3lpkgig . They have performed flawlessly for almost 2 years. As far as the bilstein shock go, that is always a solid standby for a shock upgrade. So much so that the MOPAR lift now has gone to bilstein B8 5160's (a 5100 w/ external oil reservoir) over the FOX 2.5 monotube shocks. They are technically at the opposite end of the spectrum of valve performance. The bilstein is a digressive shock, which will be firm forward and soften up with increased cycling, where as the fox were a linear shock that are more kooshy forward and firm up with increased cycling. Each have their purpose and preference. I went from the fox shock to the falcon which like the bilstein are digressive valving, and I 100% prefer the ride over how the Fox shocks performed.. and to think i actually liked the way the fox shock performed. Heres my shock evaluation video ua-cam.com/video/qf-ymLTxuY8/v-deo.html. I do cover the reference of the bilstein in the video as well.. And for the manuals. Its a flawed clutch design that has clamp force threshold of 274ft/lb and they put it behind a 262ft/lb engine, leaving enough room for error to be revealed on any clutches not clamping the designed force. The clutch was designed to be smooth engagement and reduce noise compared to the JK application...which they did, but it came with a downside. Thanks again for the comment.

    • @sbcbaits994
      @sbcbaits994 Місяць тому +1

      6cyl Silverado? Oof. My 5.3 was a gutless turd. I can’t image how terrible that thing was to drive. 😂

    • @kevinvoyer5053
      @kevinvoyer5053 Місяць тому

      @@sbcbaits994 Ooof where did you see Silverado?

  • @kacyjones1387
    @kacyjones1387 Місяць тому +5

    Wish they would bring back the Diesel. Instead of the eco put that smaller Cummins engine it. Would be nice.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Hell yea! Totally agree! Unfortunately, US EPA restrictions will probably phase out diesels altogether..

    • @kacyjones1387
      @kacyjones1387 Місяць тому +1

      @@GatorOverland idk they make a bio diesel now that they use. I hope not tho. I haul fuel for a living. Would suck to have a non diesel truck.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      @kacyjones1387 totally understand and diesel will definitely stay in the logistics vehicle fields for sure..

  • @NemeanLion-
    @NemeanLion- Місяць тому +4

    I hate to say it, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they discontinued the gladiator altogether. The vehicle has been treated like an afterthought for years now and Stellantis is in big trouble. Hopefully not though.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Only time will tell.. hopefully they stick it out!

  • @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI
    @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI Місяць тому +1

    Great video. Informative and concise! Looking forward to more of these.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for that Preston… I’ll be honest, you were some of the inspiration for doing a “one take” upload. Thankful for B roll, because this would’ve been even more of a boring video… I’ll have to figure out some way to spice them up in the future.

    • @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI
      @MotoringAdventures_KE7SAI Місяць тому +1

      ​@@GatorOverland John, your videos are always on point and clean cut! They've inspired me as well! And yes, love the B-roll! They're like the pictures in a magazine article.

  • @JR-5465
    @JR-5465 Місяць тому +1

    You didn't miss much with the Comanche. I had one and the 4 litter I loved the Peugeot tranny felt just like it sounds like a car with a bigger open trunk lol. I'm half purest there are some things I don't want to see changed but have to admit the interior between my 2023 Gladiator and my first Jeep a CJ-7 I kinda like the amenities. I'm with you on the Hurricane I'd like to see that happen.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂 well said! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @superdave3506
    @superdave3506 15 днів тому +1

    My wife and I had a 2021 Jeep Rubicon with the I-4 cylinder….While it had serious torque, the turbo lag was really bad….With less than 10,000 miles on it the thermostat housing failed and left my wife stranded on the side of the road with antifreeze pouring out the bottom…It had to be fixed under warranty twice before we traded it in….While I actually liked driving it, the reliability issue wasn’t worth it to us…..

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  15 днів тому

      Totally understood and thanks for sharing. I’m hoping the 2.0 isn’t the answer they go with the the JT 4XE

  • @jeffreyhall838
    @jeffreyhall838 Місяць тому +3

    I love the Jeep Wrangler but the Jeep name brand is constantly rated in the lowest brands for quality. I and my friends have owned several and we have all had several issues (tranny's, turbo's, electrical issues, water leaks) that kept our vehicle back and forth to the dealer for warranty repair

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      All unfortunate and true… Sorry to hear about all that… Glad they are taking care of you despite the inconvenience

  • @Mekanik_Joe
    @Mekanik_Joe Місяць тому +2

    The manual gearing was an odd choice. Reverse and 6th are a bit too tall, or low numerically. Maybe the fix would be making 4.56 stock diff gearing. My other trucks are manual. But went with an 8-speed Mojave. No conplaints.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, I totally agree… The sixth gear is only about 200 RPM different than fifth so basically it’s just another overdrive… I regear’d 5.13 with my 37’s and it performs fantastic

  • @semiccap
    @semiccap Місяць тому +2

    I've read that Automatics are obviously not like they uses to be. Technology has improved the robustness and pound for pound Autos are supposedly stronger than manuals now (contrary to what some of us growing up were told)
    The other thing is having a. computer control a. transmission rather than a person probably saves a lot of wear and tear in general.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      These days the automatics are far more efficient than manuals. Back in the day everything was either vacuum modulated or had rudimentary electronic function based on pressures on governors… The advanced electronics these days make it to where it’s near error proof, and most anything that could go wrong is a part that was defective during manufacturing..
      And totally agree that someone driving a manual transmission would be harder on the driveline than an automatic 😂😂

  • @regnar19881
    @regnar19881 21 день тому +2

    "You can always stick a 382 in..." NOT TRUE DUDE. Physically, no real problem other that forking out a few thousand bucks. Legally, it's a no-go. Each state has emissions laws as well as federal emissions laws. The amount of emissions from a 2.0 4-banger is WAY less than that of a V8. Good luck on getting it registered for on-street use.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  21 день тому

      You’re right.. I was being wildly facetious with that statement 😉🤘🏼

  • @phelandeluna5439
    @phelandeluna5439 Місяць тому +1

    What they are calling "automatic" in the JL and JT is actually a TriClutch.
    So, you have an 8 speed manual.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      Funny way of putting it, but in a way yes… manual and don’t have to lift your foot..

  • @TwoFeatherChannel
    @TwoFeatherChannel Місяць тому +2

    bad timing on Jeeps part by not having the Hurricane option when they are ditching the 392 and 3.6 auto for the JL's.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +2

      Yep.. unfortunatly the 3.0 hurricane won’t fit in the engine bay without significant modification.. it’s 1” longer than the HEMI, which is already a tight fit. Supposedly there is a new engine coming, but only crickets at this time..

    • @TwoFeatherChannel
      @TwoFeatherChannel Місяць тому +2

      @@GatorOverland I wish those crickets were chirping LS, LS. if my JLUR 3.6 goes bad, the LS would be my choice for replacement. I have a Silverado with over 400,000 miles on a LS.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      @TwoFeatherChannel 😂😂😂 I love an LS.. it’s big boy legos for horsepower. Other than VVT/DOD issues, it’s is incredible power plant..

  • @JR-ut1yx
    @JR-ut1yx 22 дні тому +1

    Personally I wanted roll up windows and no power locks in my sarge green 23 also full rag top ,but yeah most will want power windows and locks and hardtop cookie cutter gladiator now, but again the changes will appeal to the majority 😊

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  22 дні тому

      You’re absolutely right… The old saying goes, majority rules

  • @jerryjohnson7348
    @jerryjohnson7348 Місяць тому +2

    Your gladiator is stripped down are you getting rid of it

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +5

      Very observant Jerry… No, I had some duties that called upon for use of the bedspace… With a 1/2” wrench and about 10 minutes of time, I can have the Leitner rack off… I plan to put it back on this weekend.

  • @TT-mf5nj
    @TT-mf5nj Місяць тому +2

    Do you have the 8HP ZF? OR 850 RE?
    Is there any truth to these thoughts.
    Actual ZF is made in Germany.
    850 RE is ZF parts made in USA.
    SOME say they are exact same thing but branded different.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Mine is actually the Aisin AL-6 manual. 850RE is made in Indiana. The 8HP is manufactured in Germany. I believe they are built to identical specifications. The Diesels came with the ZF 8HP75 and “some” came in gassers, but majority are 850RE
      They started making the ZF in the states to meet demand and called it the 850RE
      Either way the ZF 8HPxx are fantastic transmissions, maybe the best production transmissions ever built. (8) forward gears, (H) hydraulic, (P) planetary gears and the number is nM of torque rated . 75= 750nM, 70= 700nM and so on.

    • @TT-mf5nj
      @TT-mf5nj Місяць тому +1

      @GatorOverland awesome that's good to hear. Thanks

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      You bet! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @cupofmilk24
    @cupofmilk24 Місяць тому +2

    My gladiator rubicon has 10k miles bought it 5 months ago and is currently sitting at the dealership because the transmission failed. Theyre replacing it under warranty

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      Sorry to hear that. Glad they are taking care of you.

  • @alexforeri
    @alexforeri Місяць тому +3

    The only problem is that garbage and obsolete V6 pentastarshit, hope they can improve that engine, so will be fun to drive and better mpg! 😊

  • @gammelldylan77
    @gammelldylan77 Місяць тому +3

    I wanna see the price change…

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      It’s happening already for 2024 model that they need to move.. a lot of places 10%+ under MSRP.. they really need the pricing marketed around 20% lower as a mainstay for them to be worth the cost for normal folks to buy.. I.e. a moderately equipped JL/JT rubicon on a lot at $62k would be $49k… might not leave much room for negotiation, but I’d buy that..

    • @gammelldylan77
      @gammelldylan77 Місяць тому +2

      @@GatorOverland maybe where you’re from, here base model wranglers are still in the mid 50k. A base gladiator is in the high 40 just shy of 50k.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому

      Doggett and Bolton CJDR got the memo down here in Texas.. 😂

    • @gammelldylan77
      @gammelldylan77 Місяць тому +1

      @@GatorOverland Massachusetts still sucks 😂 heck all of New England sucks.

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +1

      At least you have seasons..

  • @airtek4809
    @airtek4809 Місяць тому +2

    3.0 hurricane?

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +2

      Yes, the twin turbo straight 6 is also a hurricane variant labeld the “Hurricane GME-T6” and comes in the RAM, charger, and Jeep wagoneer.. standard output is 420hp, high out put is 510hp
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellantis_Hurricane_engine

    • @airtek4809
      @airtek4809 Місяць тому +1

      @@GatorOverland wouldn't they need to make modifications to fit that ?

    • @GatorOverland
      @GatorOverland  Місяць тому +2

      @airtek4809 yes.. technically it won’t fit.. in the video I said “I wish” they could put it in there.