I bet you would be surprised how many of us didn't know the teeth are supposed to be square ⏹! Thanks for taking time to do this Video. I don't pretend that I think I can do this kind of repair but I will know what to look for, what to ask the machanic. But I did replace the Rack & pinion on my miata😊 & yes I was so proud I almost burst! The guy I bought it from patched up the boot but 50 miles from home I was stopping at every gas station to refill it. I spent probably 3 days longer & I watched & read everything I could find.
Your welcome, alot of people/mechanics assume the teeth are good. Takes a few minutes to roll the engine over by hand and inspect every tooth just to be sure they are good.
man this EXACT same thing is happening to my 2000 2500 savana. im serious man I've been through 3 starters myself and thats no lie. Starters were blowing out and sparking, more recently a crazy loud grinding sounds. So here on July 5th im going to FINALLY replace my flywheel as well as a 4th starter. Thanks for the video ill keep you updated
Shane Norton just a suggestion my friend do your rear main seal and oil pan gasket all the same time you will already be there. Kill 4 birds with 1 stone my friend. Is will save you in the long run so you won't have to pull this stuff back off. Transmission pan gasket and filter change as well you'll need to drain the transmission fluid to make this job easier. And less messy.
Actually, your starter teeth have what’s called a ‘ lead in ‘ cut into the front edge of the teeth. On a new drive, you will see a two angle cut on each tooth. The reason for this, is to allow smooth engagement of the starter pinion, with the teeth on the flywheel. YES, the flywheel teeth should be square and clean, but not the starter teeth. In the case of a tooth to tooth abutment ( teeth hitting th face and not meshing ) when turning the key, the solenoid continues to compress the heavy engagement spring, behind the one way clutch/starter pinion, so when the electric motor contactor closes, and the starter begins to turn, the pinion is forced into the ring gear by the engagement spring, and a normal start occurs. Burred teeth on the ring gear can work to prevent a smooth engagement. A tedious job, but the solution is to take a points file or similar, and remove the burrs on the front of the teeth where the starter pinion engages them. In the case of a 5.7, there will be four wear spots. After that, take a soft wire brush in a dremel or die grinder, and clean your file work off, do the rest of the teeth if you can also. In the starter, the pinion clutch assembly rides on a set of spiral splines cut into the armature shaft. Some disassembly of the starter is required to get to these. Make sure they are clean and free of grit and lubed with a very light moly grease, same too the mating teeth in the drive, they slide backward and forward on the splines. This will give you a smooth engaging starter, hopefully with none of that disgusting grinding noise, that scares the bejesus out of passers by. Hope this helps. Note, if the ring gear teeth are too far worn away, then a new flexplate/ring gear could be necessary. Just from the vid, yours looks in fair shape.
Thanks for the info I know sometimes videos dont do much justice. Some of those teeth were rounded. Sad that the guy had to go through 3 starters because the shop he took it too failed to look. Once I replaced the correct starter and flexplate all was perfect.
Impressive but this is actually a flexplate.The flywheel is bolted to the engine crankshaft. ... When using a manual transmission and a conventional clutch disk and pressure plate setup . The use of an automatic transmission using a torque converter is flexplate👈
@@dukenewell7206 remember that there is no standardisation terminology in the auto industry. You can even see different terms used by manufacturers. You also have regional differences. I understand the frustration that comes from it, just take the electronics ASE test and you will see.
My oem starter died replaced it. I never had the noise until i replaced it with 2 new starters and its still making noise thank you for your knowledge i will think about replacing the flywheel
Thank you. This happened to my 2005 Tahoe. Went through 2 starters and they were getting ready to put yet another starter on when I insisted they checked the flywheel.
Thx for this video. I'm having intermittent starting with my 97 Suburban and I figured it was just the starter but now I will check my flywheel. Fingers crossed it's just a starter
This guys accent is fuckin cool. Wish I lived in that part of the world. The west of ireland is cold and wet. Anyway thanks for the detailed run through on this the starter!
You can also replace it with a lighter one to free up some powwwa. I would suggest a more aggressive friction material and a slightly stronger pressure plate. You would be surprised how different the car will feel after that. Just be careful because you will rev alot faster and that can become a problem. Make sure you dont make anything unbalanced.
Omg that’s exactly what I think is wrong with my car. We replace the started but just yesterday it wouldn’t turn again, so we contact our mechanic and he mention the flywheel. Like he knew exactly what was wrong but didn’t bother to suggest it when he change the started. Now my question is there a way to fix the flywheel temporarily just to get the car started and moved ? Thank you so much for this video very well explain and helpful .b
Your welcome. Theres really no temp fix for the fly wheel or flexplate which ever one you have. if its damaged You'll have to replace it. Which includes droping the transmission.
In the process they put a k5 blazer starter on this truck. Which was a much bigger starter than what should have been on here. Which that can also cause alot of issues an it did. Thing started up so smooth no grinding after I replaced it.
I have the same issue and hes right there is no temporary fix however if your just tryna move your car you can turn the bolt on your crankshaft which is what the flexplate is connected to you will see your belts move now you just need to turn it a little bit and the car will crank right up I was doing it for a month with my bad flexplate it was embarrassing but it did start
Thx u for this video, watched few videos before urs and pls continue making videos so we can do our own repairs . Appreciate u even the mechanic on site was confused!!!
thanks bud nice job helpful - i have a 1995 chevey 2500 5.7 V8 LOTS OF PROBLEMS STARTER PROBLEMS NEED TO REPLACE FLY WHEEL OUCH I WILL BE WAITING for your next Vidio putting in new fly wheel never did it----
Same problem. Found starter motor keeps jamming in flywheel teeth. Results in solenoid burning out each time. Bummer of a job cause you must take out transmission to replace flywheel, especially on a truck.
I use to have a 79 Chevy bonanza that had the same starter/flywheel problem and sometimes when I would go to start it and the starter wouldn't even connect with the flywheel I would roll the truck 5 or 10 feet and it would catch and crank lol
Yes, didn't help they didn't have the correct starter on it to begin with. An having to many shims. After fixing this issue putting a new flexplate on with the correct starter they haven't had no more problems with it.
I replaced my starter 1 year ago my first time .now when I start it grinds bad and truck doesn't start and check engine light flashes when I'm trying to start it .I think I F up with the starter any ideas now ? Thanks 👍🇨🇦
first all all you might have to shim the starter and 2nd of all the check engine light dont flash when a starter gos bad . and if you replace it try to shim it with w shim yes go ask your parts store about them they will pull up a page with shims look at the page and get the w looking ones .
I have a metal grinding noise only when I start up sometimes the noise lasts a bit longer but when turns over truck is fine ... If my problem is flywheel is it expensive to fix!?
Flexplate and flywheels arnt too bad on price. May check your starter and make sure its engaging properly may have to shim it. Make sure your teeth on your flexplate or flywheel isnt messed up if so starter gear could be a little rounded which can cause slippage and grind. As far as the job goes it's not to bad with some help. If you do the job make sure all is good u joints. Etc. Which in this truck I replaced the u joints and the rear main I was already there. Something to check into when Doing this job. You will also need to drain the trans fluid and change pan gasket makes your life alot easier.
Mine doesn't grind but it just spins and doesn't catch. Then I try starting it again and it's fine. Could there be missing teeth or not adjusted right?
@@amberericjones5694 no. Not rods . More like a clicking and loss of power sorta. I just ordered a starter but will a damaged flywheel make click noises .
What do you think is wrong with mine ..I've got 99 Blazer no start condition and it clicks once and then it'll go clunk and I'll lose battery lights n all like something stuck in between the flywheel and the starter ..its a new starter n battery n still won't start
It ended up being a bad battery from autozone even thou it was new n past a battery test soon as I exchanged the warranty battery it fired right up..thxs
@@vinniejohnson209 I believe all ths part stores need to get in new equipment for their battery testings. Buddy of mine ran through a similar issue while back. I Told him just cause their machines says its good sometimes thats not always the case.. But they really need new equipment that will test batteries thouroughly to where its so semsitive that it can read of whats bad.. Got all this high tech equipment these days I dont why they cant upgrade. Lol
Dude....man may holler at you on FB. My truck started making noice last night and it's flex plate starter area.....flex plate LOOKS good and starter is working.......but I messed up.....when I built the 5.7 to put in man.......I forgot threadlocker blue on the flex plate bolts......so...about to see if they came lose....praying I didn't break that flex plate....have a spare but damn bro...... Don't wanna do that change out at ALL :/ how could I forget that threadlocker dude....smh. Was excited and in a hurry...... Torqued it all to spec and yeah..... Oooppps...... Truck runs great besides that....and it's not super noisy, as it just started last night...but man.....DAMN. This truck of mine wants to die so bad. 💀 so......thats what I got going on right now man. Smh.
I fear that this is what is going on with my car. It turns over and sounds fine but then you get this horrible grinding clunky noise as the car starts. Other times the starter just spins and makes no contact
your going to need to shim the starter or you have bad teeth on the flex plate or fly wheel . my friends 2004 ford exploer 4x4 doing the same thing you just minthion how yours is doing . load clanking noise and some time it spins and then may contact . so i seen the teeth on the edge or bad . . so hes going to get it change .
so you should have a 168 tooth flex plat and maybe a 4l60 e trans . i just rand in that problem i swap a 350 two peace rear main to a 5.7 one peace rear main vortec now my starter gear is binding . so i have to get a starter or put a new gear on my stater .
i just went and got thinner w shims time will tell when i get back working on it ill let you know how it went . and im thinking about geting the 139 teeth flex plate for the 4l60 e trans off of amazone . and retune the 168 teeth ones
Great video! However, I have a 99 Chevy Tahoe 4x4 , and i have a similar problem, but im breaking off starter bolts and its eating the hell out of the flywheel. Obviously I will replace both the starter and flywheel and start new. But what cause the starter to start breaking bolts. Twice over now. Any analysis or advice???
Wow, lol. I havent heard that before but my guess would be need to be sure you are getting the correct starter an correct flexplate/flywheel. Almost sounds like the starter is being put in a bind somehow or not shimmed right. I need to do some research an see if somebody else has had that problem
Looks like other people have ran into that same issue of the starter bolts breaking. From What I'm seeing is somehow the starter flexes which puts alot of tention on the bolts causing them to break. Weird I know. I've never ran into that problem an I wish I had a excellent answer to give. 😢
Is your starter shimmer? Guy told me that people take the starter brace off so I'm guessing without the brace thats why its doing that. From What I am understanding
@@cityofroses08 some do some dont from what I understand. Buddy of mine said that most starter bolts has cross hatches for it to have a tighter fit an to give no movements but if the bolts was worn or the starter holes were worn its a possible that it was just enough to give it play room to move an snap the bolts. The brace peice bolts to the back of the starter for support. An bolts to the block. The ones ive worked on ive never seen a brace. But just a thought to check all aspects.
Hi I'm new to this channel. I am having trouble with my car. I was driving and it stopped driving, I hit the gas and still unable to drive. Fortunately I was able to pull into an empty parking lot. What could it be? I will be towing it to the shop but I wanted an idea of what it is before the shop tries to cheat me out of my money.
@@judywalker2849 if its not moving in any gear possibly transmission. But if you are throwing a check engine light I would recommend getting it checked. Obd2 readers are fairly cheap depending which one you get
Replacing transmission. Replaced rear main seal and oil pan gasket too. Might as well. I wanna start engine and run it for a few seconds, just to get some pressure in the engine to check for leaks. Brand new starter from AutoZone. Nothing. Might be a power supply issue. I'm not sure.
@@amberericjones5694 I might have to do that. Especially since the old starter worked. But, I was thinking new transmission, new seals, new damn near everything; I might as well get a new starter. So, either connection, bad starter or the AutoZone people gave me the wrong part
@@williammiller7799 if all things checks out may have a faulty starter. Here lately they've been having issues out of their duralast products for somereason may have them test the starter too an be sure you have the correct one. Sometimes when things get damaged out. Alot of times depending who it is won't stick it back in the correct box. An thats why parts gets mixed up alot of times. Ppl not paying attention
I need help with my starter, I have a 2002 chevy express 3500 cutaway 5.7. Each time I want to start the engine I have to let the starter down half way, then rebolt it to the block and the engine will start like new. If I dont drop the starter it will grind and not spin the motor. I have shimmed it, used new bolts and I have concluded the starter must be shifting from side to side because it cannot go up and down. back in the old days we ised to have dtarter brackets but none for this engine...any suggestions as to how to fix my problem?
@@amberericjones5694 I am glad you asked, I took the starter apart and put the teeth from the starter into the teeth of the flywheel and guess what??? the teeth on the starter motor was larger than the teeth on the flywheel, thus the starter motor teeth was riding on TOP of the teeth on the flywheel. The starter motor was getting enough "grip" to trun the flexplate but when the bendix retracts back into the starter moter it throws the alignment off for another start...IT IS THE WRONG STARTER but right GM part number.
it is the right GM part number based on the VIN but the actual wrong part. I think the manufacturer is trying to use one starter to cover many different modles after all the cost of repairs is on the consumer not them.
Yes it is their becoming more about money than a customers saftey. They have gotten the mentality quantity over quality. Most shops hate me with a passion. They do not like to be cornered when their in the wrong. Me idc do the job right or dont do it at all is my moto
You know when your car is running and you try to start it again the second time at that moment you hear a scratching noise ....sometimes I hear that scratching noise when I try to start my car ....any idea what that is ?
My started was very loose do you think it makes knocking noise because I check the car compression the rod bearings and they are in good condition after I checked those parts I realized that the starter was loose do you think that was the problem
Have a old Corvette.. after 2 starters changing flywheel..big job but has to be done..sounds like a bag of screws in a blender..always have " that guy" that walks by says " you got a bad starter" HA no shit..
Rocky Strazzi Rocky if you get a chance can you click on my channel and watch the video o just uploaded the other day please and tell me is that what your car sounded like when you said a bag of screws in a blender?? Bc my starter is no good but bc of that noise I think I need a new flywheel but some people are saying sounds like it’s in my Motor like something broke off inside.. I don’t know much on mechanical stuff an slowly learning
If your concerned about the flywheel and or flex plate which ever one you have. Should be a inspection cover on the transmission or at least a metal cover that can come off. To check the teeth.
I respectfully disagree, I love your video by the way. I just want to say that on my 98 F-150, some of the teeth are rounded off and it will leave me sit for 30 minutes or longer... I'm not saying your wrong. Do you know why that happens to me?
@@rugie6247 check the starter if the starter is binding up on the flexplate/flywheel. It will damage those teeth. Possible the teeth on the starter could be round off some causing some issues.
Have you tried shimming the starter. Some of them requires a shim. But alot of times even with it shimmied such as this one was the flexplate was just trashed. Your case you may need a shim for the starter
@@debbielove8436 what happens if you remove the shims. Cause I know when i done this job i did not put the shims back on. After replacing the correct starter an flexplate for the vehicle
My truck has been nothing but issues. It's a 98 with 1 previous owner, he was an older fella. Had some issues but most are age related and not an issue. This fucking trans and starter are starting to piss me off, first I get one and the fucking "switching" terminal literally touches the oil pan causing it to ground out the ignition circuit. Fucking pain to just get my money back. Now I get a bran new one that I knew wouldn't ground the fuck out, it proceeds to eat the ring gear. I have never in my fucking life have had this much issue with a fucking starter. I mean fuck the "ORIGINAL" starter was still in the bitch and still working. It was literally rusting apart but still started the bitch. Have a fucking cold start lean issue on top of this shit. I'm about to just buy a rebuilt trans and motor and just rebuild the old ones. Shit I could even do some performance mods to it. Too bad it's my ONLY FUCKING VEHICLE. Well back to banging my head on the oil pan. Thanks for reading the comment. Yall have a good one.
Did you figure out what the problem was? I had a 2001 chevy van w/ 5.7 vortec and it started grinding on the flywheel ring gear also.... I put 4 starters on it ..still grinding...changed flywheel and still grinding..idk I wanted to torch the damn van.
@@stereotype5868 found that alot of the vacuum lines were old and also the last dude who put the idle air control on forgot the gasket. The trans is the age of the truck and needs to be rebuilt or replaced. The ring gear on the flywheel is chewed up so it makes noise. My biggest concern is the trans because it likes to sick in gear ranges and not go in unless I Rev match. I crashed my beater so i can't take it out for service.
I have replaced my starter motor and the flywheel and it's still doing it. I am so stressed now it is doing my head in. Anyone know what else it can be please?
@@cboyerrrrr you can buy starter shims their a flat piece of metal every thousandths of a inch thickness. It helps the starter to line up like it should.
I have a 94 gmc seirra v6 when i try and crank it it sounds like someone is beating the hell out of my motor like it has a box of rocks thrown in there anyone know what that could be?
3.3 grand caravan 3 starter (new) still zhining teeth on flywheel look good all still square.. just zhinging.. checked the starter all good .. it’s not engaging. Engine pulleys don’t move.. I turned engine by hand ,it’s freely.. why isn’t my starter not engaging??? I’m puzzled
Make sure your grounds are good and cleaned make sure the hot wire to the starter is good an cleaned. If it still doesn't do anything remove the starter an bench test or take it to your local parts store and have them test the starter
@@fongvang4646 thats what I meant to put.. Flexplate/flywheel bolts to the back of the crankshaft. Yes. If you cant rotate the engine yes it would be seized up.
@@amberericjones5694 kool im glad to hear you learn how to work on vics . and your not afrade to get your hand or face grease . keep up the good work . i just rebuilt a engine for my truck its a 350 small block with 2 peace crank seal . and i got another 5.7 vor tec one peace crank seal that was suspose to be built with high perform parts . but when i got it i try to turn it and it bind so i took off the oil pan and pull the caps taht was not all mark so i notice the rod b and crank b were scuff so i replace them and cheack the clearances betreen each rod cap . all good . but now im haveing problem with my starter gear getting stuck and not returning back to its place . on my brand new 168 tooth flex plat . . that was warp so i got anouter one . but the problem still exzist . this sht crazy .
@@roythornton919 thank you man my answer to you is.. may have to shim the starter or see about a smaller flex plate. Try the shims first be sure you have the correct starter for that motor. And also correct flexplate.
@@amberericjones5694 hi thank i did all that you said . above . new evry thing and it still dose it . so i heard about these w shims yes they kind of look like a w and there thinner and i heard when you put them under the starter were it bolt to the engine caseing it makes evry thing even . because the tricker one dont work as good . so im takeing about a week or two from working on the engine and refreshing my mind . because the shop i was at and could work on my vics and there vic lets just say me and the owner had it out . and i had to move now all i have is my yard again to work in . until later down the road . if i decide to do itr again .
@@roythornton919 sometimes thats the best way step back step away and clear the mind an return back to it. Alot of other people ran into this same issue I've heard over the yrs with the starter binding on the flexplate.
I know some times camera dont pic up alot of things as if you were to look at it up close an personal. He had alot of teeth on the flexplate that were rounded off. After replacing the flex plate he had no more issues with the starter grinding
I bet you would be surprised how many of us didn't know the teeth are supposed to be square ⏹! Thanks for taking time to do this Video. I don't pretend that I think I can do this kind of repair but I will know what to look for, what to ask the machanic.
But I did replace the Rack & pinion on my miata😊 & yes I was so proud I almost burst! The guy I bought it from patched up the boot but 50 miles from home I was stopping at every gas station to refill it. I spent probably 3 days longer & I watched & read everything I could find.
Your welcome, alot of people/mechanics assume the teeth are good. Takes a few minutes to roll the engine over by hand and inspect every tooth just to be sure they are good.
man this EXACT same thing is happening to my 2000 2500 savana. im serious man I've been through 3 starters myself and thats no lie. Starters were blowing out and sparking, more recently a crazy loud grinding sounds. So here on July 5th im going to FINALLY replace my flywheel as well as a 4th starter. Thanks for the video ill keep you updated
Shane Norton just a suggestion my friend do your rear main seal and oil pan gasket all the same time you will already be there. Kill 4 birds with 1 stone my friend. Is will save you in the long run so you won't have to pull this stuff back off. Transmission pan gasket and filter change as well you'll need to drain the transmission fluid to make this job easier. And less messy.
Shane Norton did it fix it when got new flywheel
Did you get it figured out
did it fix the problem?
@@nelsonp5187 needed a new starter and flywheel and a seal I forget which. the motor blew up on my van a few years ago.
Actually, your starter teeth have what’s called a ‘ lead in ‘ cut into the front edge of the teeth. On a new drive, you will see a two angle cut on each tooth. The reason for this, is to allow smooth engagement of the starter pinion, with the teeth on the flywheel. YES, the flywheel teeth should be square and clean, but not the starter teeth. In the case of a tooth to tooth abutment ( teeth hitting th face and not meshing ) when turning the key, the solenoid continues to compress the heavy engagement spring, behind the one way clutch/starter pinion, so when the electric motor contactor closes, and the starter begins to turn, the pinion is forced into the ring gear by the engagement spring, and a normal start occurs. Burred teeth on the ring gear can work to prevent a smooth engagement. A tedious job, but the solution is to take a points file or similar, and remove the burrs on the front of the teeth where the starter pinion engages them. In the case of a 5.7, there will be four wear spots. After that, take a soft wire brush in a dremel or die grinder, and clean your file work off, do the rest of the teeth if you can also. In the starter, the pinion clutch assembly rides on a set of spiral splines cut into the armature shaft. Some disassembly of the starter is required to get to these. Make sure they are clean and free of grit and lubed with a very light moly grease, same too the mating teeth in the drive, they slide backward and forward on the splines. This will give you a smooth engaging starter, hopefully with none of that disgusting grinding noise, that scares the bejesus out of passers by. Hope this helps. Note, if the ring gear teeth are too far worn away, then a new flexplate/ring gear could be necessary. Just from the vid, yours looks in fair shape.
Thanks for the info I know sometimes videos dont do much justice. Some of those teeth were rounded. Sad that the guy had to go through 3 starters because the shop he took it too failed to look. Once I replaced the correct starter and flexplate all was perfect.
Impressive but this is actually a flexplate.The flywheel is bolted to the engine crankshaft. ... When using a manual transmission and a conventional clutch disk and pressure plate setup . The use of an automatic transmission using a torque converter is flexplate👈
I Agree with you..
@@dukenewell7206 remember that there is no standardisation terminology in the auto industry. You can even see different terms used by manufacturers. You also have regional differences.
I understand the frustration that comes from it, just take the electronics ASE test and you will see.
@@dukenewell7206 same difference
You sir have saved my life with this video I thank you from the bottom of my heart ...
My oem starter died replaced it. I never had the noise until i replaced it with 2 new starters and its still making noise thank you for your knowledge i will think about replacing the flywheel
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i feel for you . these starter can be a pain until you get them to do right . good luck .
I learned a new word!
“Guarandangumtee” 😂
Lmao
Thank you. This happened to my 2005 Tahoe. Went through 2 starters and they were getting ready to put yet another starter on when I insisted they checked the flywheel.
Thx for this video. I'm having intermittent starting with my 97 Suburban and I figured it was just the starter but now I will check my flywheel. Fingers crossed it's just a starter
This was the video that answered my question. I just replaced my starter and it starter broke again. thanks
Awesome job on the video. I’ve watched a lot video about Shimming 🐎💩,it was the fly wheel all along,I’m not sure how many starters have been replaced.
Thank you and your welcome 😁
Brother got a REAL MAN'S voice...
Respect
No homo (disclaimer)
On a jeep 4.0 engine stops at 3 different places. Meaning starter contact at only 3 places.
This guys accent is fuckin cool. Wish I lived in that part of the world. The west of ireland is cold and wet. Anyway thanks for the detailed run through on this the starter!
Lmao thanks man
Best accent for sure! 😀
your the man thank you.. 3 starters ending up being flex plate missing teeth.. 950 bucks!!
950 ouch your welcome man
Also flywheel could be warped as well causing the issue, but either way just replace it.
You can also replace it with a lighter one to free up some powwwa. I would suggest a more aggressive friction material and a slightly stronger pressure plate.
You would be surprised how different the car will feel after that. Just be careful because you will rev alot faster and that can become a problem.
Make sure you dont make anything unbalanced.
Omg that’s exactly what I think is wrong with my car. We replace the started but just yesterday it wouldn’t turn again, so we contact our mechanic and he mention the flywheel. Like he knew exactly what was wrong but didn’t bother to suggest it when he change the started. Now my question is there a way to fix the flywheel temporarily just to get the car started and moved ?
Thank you so much for this video very well explain and helpful .b
Your welcome. Theres really no temp fix for the fly wheel or flexplate which ever one you have. if its damaged You'll have to replace it. Which includes droping the transmission.
In the process they put a k5 blazer starter on this truck. Which was a much bigger starter than what should have been on here. Which that can also cause alot of issues an it did. Thing started up so smooth no grinding after I replaced it.
I have the same issue and hes right there is no temporary fix however if your just tryna move your car you can turn the bolt on your crankshaft which is what the flexplate is connected to you will see your belts move now you just need to turn it a little bit and the car will crank right up I was doing it for a month with my bad flexplate it was embarrassing but it did start
I have a 78 Camino 305 eng. I replace the flywheel and starter..but a month ago same problem grinding
Thx u for this video, watched few videos before urs and pls continue making videos so we can do our own repairs . Appreciate u even the mechanic on site was confused!!!
Yw I'm hoping to get back at it again on here.
Thank You. It solved my problem on my 2009 chev silverado.
thanks bud nice job helpful - i have a 1995 chevey 2500 5.7 V8 LOTS OF PROBLEMS STARTER PROBLEMS NEED TO REPLACE FLY WHEEL OUCH I WILL BE WAITING for your next Vidio
putting in new fly wheel never did it----
Your welcome ua-cam.com/video/oXzYMdOk1ic/v-deo.html
I've got the videos in parts
Hook up harmonic balancer to turn flywheel to really get a good looks at all the teeth
did that done that and fornd out my new flex plat was warp .
Super helpful thankyou. I got a 97
Same problem. Found starter motor keeps jamming in flywheel teeth. Results in solenoid burning out each time. Bummer of a job cause you must take out transmission to replace flywheel, especially on a truck.
Yup yup
Got a 2003 Mazda 6, exact same problem flywheel just reemed out
I use to have a 79 Chevy bonanza that had the same starter/flywheel problem and sometimes when I would go to start it and the starter wouldn't even connect with the flywheel I would roll the truck 5 or 10 feet and it would catch and crank lol
Good Thing Man seemed like it was all buggered up
The starter is hardened. So, if the fly wheel has damage to the edges, doesn’t that mean there is a gear from starter to fly wheel issue?
Yes, didn't help they didn't have the correct starter on it to begin with. An having to many shims. After fixing this issue putting a new flexplate on with the correct starter they haven't had no more problems with it.
I know I cant get an exact answer, how much does having a flywheel on a 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9l cost?
I'd figure for a flexplate 30 to 50 bucks
You answered alot of my ?s. Thank you
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Great video.. that's what happen with my Buick centurion.. thanks
Yw
thanks Eric, great help
I got a 1972 Cadillac Eldorado. Already eaten 2 starters going for the 3th one.
Check that flexplate
I replaced my starter 1 year ago my first time .now when I start it grinds bad and truck doesn't start and check engine light flashes when I'm trying to start it .I think I F up with the starter any ideas now ? Thanks 👍🇨🇦
May check flexplate and or check to see if you put the shims back or not. But since your showing a check engine I would have it checked first
@@amberericjones5694 thanks will do 👍🇨🇦
first all all you might have to shim the starter and 2nd of all the check engine light dont flash when a starter gos bad . and if you replace it try to shim it with w shim yes go ask your parts store about them they will pull up a page with shims look at the page and get the w looking ones .
Thanks for making this video I knew replacing the starter was not the problem.
Yw
You totally right on ,good video
I have a metal grinding noise only when I start up sometimes the noise lasts a bit longer but when turns over truck is fine ... If my problem is flywheel is it expensive to fix!?
Flexplate and flywheels arnt too bad on price. May check your starter and make sure its engaging properly may have to shim it. Make sure your teeth on your flexplate or flywheel isnt messed up if so starter gear could be a little rounded which can cause slippage and grind. As far as the job goes it's not to bad with some help. If you do the job make sure all is good u joints. Etc. Which in this truck I replaced the u joints and the rear main I was already there. Something to check into when Doing this job. You will also need to drain the trans fluid and change pan gasket makes your life alot easier.
Mine doesn't grind but it just spins and doesn't catch. Then I try starting it again and it's fine. Could there be missing teeth or not adjusted right?
Could be the starter not engaging.
Sounds like starter has a intermittent problem
My car has the same starting problem but now when I’m driving I’m starting to hear a slight knock especially when I driving and accelerating
@@SergioTorres-nt1xm knock like rod knock or torque converter bolts hitting something
@@amberericjones5694 no. Not rods . More like a clicking and loss of power sorta. I just ordered a starter but will a damaged flywheel make click noises .
my same engine as this has loud srceech when i start it .Could this be the problem. I just had my starter changed 2 mo ago. Thanks
Starter screeching is usually bindinding up on the flexplate. May need a shim. Or check the teeth on the flexplate.
Very helpful thanks man
Yw
What do you think is wrong with mine ..I've got 99 Blazer no start condition and it clicks once and then it'll go clunk and I'll lose battery lights n all like something stuck in between the flywheel and the starter ..its a new starter n battery n still won't start
Pull the starter bench test it, see if it will spin. If clicks out but wont spin starter could be faulty.
It ended up being a bad battery from autozone even thou it was new n past a battery test soon as I exchanged the warranty battery it fired right up..thxs
@@vinniejohnson209 I believe all ths part stores need to get in new equipment for their battery testings. Buddy of mine ran through a similar issue while back. I Told him just cause their machines says its good sometimes thats not always the case.. But they really need new equipment that will test batteries thouroughly to where its so semsitive that it can read of whats bad.. Got all this high tech equipment these days I dont why they cant upgrade. Lol
I will be changing out My Flywheel & Torque Converter,just recently changed out my starter.Flywheel been confirmed with Fractures...Great..
Replaced my tc this weekend and now truck won't start just clicks and I have also replaced my starter any suggestions
Thanks man good advice
Nice video buddy.
Thank you this has helped a lot
Yw
I'm needing help with replacing a flywheel on a 1998 Honda accord. Any way you could give instructions
Been a long time since I've torn into a Honda. Easier to remove engine
Dude....man may holler at you on FB. My truck started making noice last night and it's flex plate starter area.....flex plate LOOKS good and starter is working.......but I messed up.....when I built the 5.7 to put in man.......I forgot threadlocker blue on the flex plate bolts......so...about to see if they came lose....praying I didn't break that flex plate....have a spare but damn bro...... Don't wanna do that change out at ALL :/ how could I forget that threadlocker dude....smh. Was excited and in a hurry...... Torqued it all to spec and yeah..... Oooppps...... Truck runs great besides that....and it's not super noisy, as it just started last night...but man.....DAMN. This truck of mine wants to die so bad. 💀 so......thats what I got going on right now man. Smh.
Do you have to take out the trans in order to change the fly wheel ?
Yes
No if you want to take engine out
Schooled!! Thank you, I should have known better.
I fear that this is what is going on with my car. It turns over and sounds fine but then you get this horrible grinding clunky noise as the car starts. Other times the starter just spins and makes no contact
your going to need to shim the starter or you have bad teeth on the flex plate or fly wheel . my friends 2004 ford exploer 4x4 doing the same thing you just minthion how yours is doing . load clanking noise and some time it spins and then may contact . so i seen the teeth on the edge or bad . . so hes going to get it change .
My 94 c2500 some times grinds and doesn’t spin the motor over but I turn it over by the belt a bit to she will crank no issue
so you should have a 168 tooth flex plat and maybe a 4l60 e trans . i just rand in that problem i swap a 350 two peace rear main to a 5.7 one peace rear main vortec now my starter gear is binding . so i have to get a starter or put a new gear on my stater .
i just went and got thinner w shims time will tell when i get back working on it ill let you know how it went . and im thinking about geting the 139 teeth flex plate for the 4l60 e trans off of amazone . and retune the 168 teeth ones
In my case car starts smooth but constant grind while idling. This only occurred after I changed starter. What could it be?
Sounds like your starters solenoid faulty allowing the bendix to remain out just enough to touch the flex plate. Would be my guess
Great video! However, I have a 99 Chevy Tahoe 4x4 , and i have a similar problem, but im breaking off starter bolts and its eating the hell out of the flywheel. Obviously I will replace both the starter and flywheel and start new. But what cause the starter to start breaking bolts. Twice over now. Any analysis or advice???
Wow, lol. I havent heard that before but my guess would be need to be sure you are getting the correct starter an correct flexplate/flywheel. Almost sounds like the starter is being put in a bind somehow or not shimmed right. I need to do some research an see if somebody else has had that problem
Looks like other people have ran into that same issue of the starter bolts breaking. From What I'm seeing is somehow the starter flexes which puts alot of tention on the bolts causing them to break. Weird I know. I've never ran into that problem an I wish I had a excellent answer to give. 😢
Is your starter shimmer?
Guy told me that people take the starter brace off so I'm guessing without the brace thats why its doing that. From What I am understanding
@@amberericjones5694 Didn't know it had a brace....hmmmm i will have to look into that....Thanks for the heads up!!
@@cityofroses08 some do some dont from what I understand. Buddy of mine said that most starter bolts has cross hatches for it to have a tighter fit an to give no movements but if the bolts was worn or the starter holes were worn its a possible that it was just enough to give it play room to move an snap the bolts. The brace peice bolts to the back of the starter for support. An bolts to the block. The ones ive worked on ive never seen a brace. But just a thought to check all aspects.
Starter checked..batteries checked on my Ford Explorer 93..flywheel never made much noise..is it hard to work on?
Their not to bad to work on.
My expedition is doing the same noise i replaced the starter cause it went out so what do i do next
Check flywheel/flexplate really good like I did.
Put it in the front yard
Hi I'm new to this channel. I am having trouble with my car. I was driving and it stopped driving, I hit the gas and still unable to drive. Fortunately I was able to pull into an empty parking lot. What could it be? I will be towing it to the shop but I wanted an idea of what it is before the shop tries to cheat me out of my money.
Does it just die like no fuel
@@amberericjones5694 yes it stopped like that but the engine was running.
@@judywalker2849 if it was running then its getting fuel. Is your car throwing a check engine light
@@amberericjones5694 yes just slowed down and stopped moving while I was driving down the street. I changed to a lower gear, reverse etc not moving.
@@judywalker2849 if its not moving in any gear possibly transmission. But if you are throwing a check engine light I would recommend getting it checked. Obd2 readers are fairly cheap depending which one you get
Replacing transmission. Replaced rear main seal and oil pan gasket too. Might as well. I wanna start engine and run it for a few seconds, just to get some pressure in the engine to check for leaks. Brand new starter from AutoZone. Nothing. Might be a power supply issue. I'm not sure.
Check fuses and relays, check your grounds
If you got a test light I'd check all wiring be sure its supplying power and or a volt meter
@@amberericjones5694 I might have to do that. Especially since the old starter worked. But, I was thinking new transmission, new seals, new damn near everything; I might as well get a new starter. So, either connection, bad starter or the AutoZone people gave me the wrong part
@@williammiller7799 is it a duralast
@@williammiller7799 if all things checks out may have a faulty starter. Here lately they've been having issues out of their duralast products for somereason may have them test the starter too an be sure you have the correct one. Sometimes when things get damaged out. Alot of times depending who it is won't stick it back in the correct box. An thats why parts gets mixed up alot of times. Ppl not paying attention
I need help with my starter, I have a 2002 chevy express 3500 cutaway 5.7. Each time I want to start the engine I have to let the starter down half way, then rebolt it to the block and the engine will start like new. If I dont drop the starter it will grind and not spin the motor. I have shimmed it, used new bolts and I have concluded the starter must be shifting from side to side because it cannot go up and down. back in the old days we ised to have dtarter brackets but none for this engine...any suggestions as to how to fix my problem?
Have you checked the teeth on the flexplate could be worn just enough to cause the starter not able to catch like it should
@@amberericjones5694 I am glad you asked, I took the starter apart and put the teeth from the starter into the teeth of the flywheel and guess what??? the teeth on the starter motor was larger than the teeth on the flywheel, thus the starter motor teeth was riding on TOP of the teeth on the flywheel. The starter motor was getting enough "grip" to trun the flexplate but when the bendix retracts back into the starter moter it throws the alignment off for another start...IT IS THE WRONG STARTER but right GM part number.
@maceobane2804 that was gonna be my next question which I guess I should of asked yesterday if you were sure it was the right starter lol.
So that whining sound when trying to crank the vehicle is because the flywheel?
Yea causing the starter to slip being it can't mesh properly
it is the right GM part number based on the VIN but the actual wrong part. I think the manufacturer is trying to use one starter to cover many different modles after all the cost of repairs is on the consumer not them.
Very nice.
My 97 Chev. Pick up has the same problem
With the starter grinding
Check your flexplate over really good. An make sure you have the correct starter on it.
Its really hard to find a good mechanic shop.
Yes it is their becoming more about money than a customers saftey. They have gotten the mentality quantity over quality. Most shops hate me with a passion. They do not like to be cornered when their in the wrong. Me idc do the job right or dont do it at all is my moto
You know when your car is running and you try to start it again the second time at that moment you hear a scratching noise ....sometimes I hear that scratching noise when I try to start my car ....any idea what that is ?
Starter
@@amberericjones5694 thanks I was thinking the samething. I tested my battery it was 12.4 v and alternator around 14.1 ...
Very helpful thank you
Yw
My started was very loose do you think it makes knocking noise because I check the car compression the rod bearings and they are in good condition after I checked those parts I realized that the starter was loose do you think that was the problem
If its loose yea it could. Pull starter and check everything out an hope nothing is damaged. If not put starter back in and tighten the bolts up.
@@amberericjones5694 ok I'll that thanks
@@hugoayala6472 yw
My truck has a smooth start but it rattles like crazy when it's started and when it in neutral it stops... Could that be the flywheel cover?
Possible or may check heat shield if you have one.
Have a old Corvette.. after 2 starters changing flywheel..big job but has to be done..sounds like a bag of screws in a blender..always have " that guy" that walks by says " you got a bad starter" HA no shit..
LMAO
On a 2008 scion xb crankshaft doesnt rotate 360 ,it stops about 180 .anybody had a scion motor do that?
@@jesserodriguez6938 I havnt, does it crank up an run
Rocky Strazzi Rocky if you get a chance can you click on my channel and watch the video o just uploaded the other day please and tell me is that what your car sounded like when you said a bag of screws in a blender?? Bc my starter is no good but bc of that noise I think I need a new flywheel but some people are saying sounds like it’s in my Motor like something broke off inside.. I don’t know much on mechanical stuff an slowly learning
Amber & Eric Jones hey can you watch the video I uploaded on my channel the other day of my Jeep Compass and tell me what you think please
Help. My truck makes a cracking noise then shuts right off ??? What can it be.
Cracking noise ?
My starter did not even engage ,does that mean my flywheel is bad? My mechanic is staying it's my flywheel but when I tapped it the starter engaged
If your able to get the starter to work when your tapping it. More than likely starter is failing.
If your concerned about the flywheel and or flex plate which ever one you have. Should be a inspection cover on the transmission or at least a metal cover that can come off. To check the teeth.
Need to put new start bolts and the braket that goes to block that everyone throws out .PS some chevy engine have steel nose cone that works great
Check timing
Didn't need to put new nothing but the correct starter on it
Thanks great video
Yw
Got a 92 with the same problem
How much did you pay to fix the flywheel
I dont remember how much I bought the flywheel it wasnt to terrible much I want to say it was around 65 or so but I dont remember right off
How much would you charge to fix it or what's the price if you take it to a shop and pay for labor
@@nelly.gvargas9142 my price to fix something like this looking around 300.00
@@nelly.gvargas9142 thats my price but shop price your probably looking around 500.00 if not a little more. Depending
Is that Brad Pitt from fury talking?
Flexplate?
Yes flexplate
Will that cause it not to start?
No. Unless you have a bad starter or something
I respectfully disagree, I love your video by the way. I just want to say that on my 98 F-150, some of the teeth are rounded off and it will leave me sit for 30 minutes or longer... I'm not saying your wrong. Do you know why that happens to me?
@@rugie6247 check the starter if the starter is binding up on the flexplate/flywheel. It will damage those teeth. Possible the teeth on the starter could be round off some causing some issues.
@@rugie6247 which in turn damaging the flexplate/flywheel
@@amberericjones5694 yes! I think that's what's happening, I'm sorry I didn't fully read your comment lol.
I have this same issue on my 99 escalade with the 5.7
May want to check that flexplate
Thank you!
You should see my vid of the starter broke on flexplate.69 impala
My flywheel and starter are touching what should I do
Starter not going in the teeth of the fly
If it's not wanting to mesh in the teeth you may need to have shims installed.
I replaced the flex plat and new starter what else can I do?
Have you tried shimming the starter. Some of them requires a shim. But alot of times even with it shimmied such as this one was the flexplate was just trashed. Your case you may need a shim for the starter
@@amberericjones5694 yes I have
@@debbielove8436 what happens if you remove the shims. Cause I know when i done this job i did not put the shims back on. After replacing the correct starter an flexplate for the vehicle
My truck has been nothing but issues. It's a 98 with 1 previous owner, he was an older fella. Had some issues but most are age related and not an issue.
This fucking trans and starter are starting to piss me off, first I get one and the fucking "switching" terminal literally touches the oil pan causing it to ground out the ignition circuit. Fucking pain to just get my money back.
Now I get a bran new one that I knew wouldn't ground the fuck out, it proceeds to eat the ring gear.
I have never in my fucking life have had this much issue with a fucking starter.
I mean fuck the "ORIGINAL" starter was still in the bitch and still working. It was literally rusting apart but still started the bitch.
Have a fucking cold start lean issue on top of this shit.
I'm about to just buy a rebuilt trans and motor and just rebuild the old ones. Shit I could even do some performance mods to it. Too bad it's my ONLY FUCKING VEHICLE.
Well back to banging my head on the oil pan.
Thanks for reading the comment. Yall have a good one.
Did you figure out what the problem was? I had a 2001 chevy van w/ 5.7 vortec and it started grinding on the flywheel ring gear also.... I put 4 starters on it ..still grinding...changed flywheel and still grinding..idk I wanted to torch the damn van.
@@stereotype5868 found that alot of the vacuum lines were old and also the last dude who put the idle air control on forgot the gasket.
The trans is the age of the truck and needs to be rebuilt or replaced.
The ring gear on the flywheel is chewed up so it makes noise.
My biggest concern is the trans because it likes to sick in gear ranges and not go in unless I Rev match.
I crashed my beater so i can't take it out for service.
If your electrical is no good or putting out correct amps it can cause starter to not engage correctly to flywheel causing damage
Starter been good since I did this job
Thank you
Your welcome
I have replaced my starter motor and the flywheel and it's still doing it. I am so stressed now it is doing my head in. Anyone know what else it can be please?
May have to shim your starter
@@amberericjones5694 what's that lol? Is that like packing it out a bit so it's closer to the flywheel?
@@cboyerrrrr you can buy starter shims their a flat piece of metal every thousandths of a inch thickness. It helps the starter to line up like it should.
@@amberericjones5694 thanks so much amber. I will look into this thanks a lot!
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Not understanding
I have a 94 gmc seirra v6 when i try and crank it it sounds like someone is beating the hell out of my motor like it has a box of rocks thrown in there anyone know what that could be?
Can you upload a video of it
What was the issue in the end? My just did that tonight. It was a terrible sound! Your info would help greatly! I'm trying to diagnose
The fly don't look too bad
Videos don't do justice. But it was pretty bad
@@amberericjones5694 WhatsApp 18769977984 me let's about cars I had a similar problem like that recently an I fix it
3.3 grand caravan 3 starter (new) still zhining teeth on flywheel look good all still square.. just zhinging.. checked the starter all good .. it’s not engaging. Engine pulleys don’t move.. I turned engine by hand ,it’s freely.. why isn’t my starter not engaging??? I’m puzzled
Make sure your grounds are good and cleaned make sure the hot wire to the starter is good an cleaned. If it still doesn't do anything remove the starter an bench test or take it to your local parts store and have them test the starter
I benched tested all good... same problem
@@pabloroman8965 is the starter able to spin
Yes it’s able to spin
@@pabloroman8965 and its engaging out doing the bench test
Bro I turned the crank pulley and the flywheel is not turning.
Your not able to rotate the engine
@@amberericjones5694 I thought the flywheel connect with the crankshaft?? If you can't rotate your engine, your engine is seized.
@@fongvang4646 thats what I meant to put.. Flexplate/flywheel bolts to the back of the crankshaft. Yes. If you cant rotate the engine yes it would be seized up.
@@fongvang4646 I was asking a question to him your not able to rotate the engine? Waited on a reply never got back to me.
that was a fuck up job its a good thing it didnt burn the truck down . thats why i fix my own stuff .
Same here
@@amberericjones5694 kool im glad to hear you learn how to work on vics . and your not afrade to get your hand or face grease . keep up the good work . i just rebuilt a engine for my truck its a 350 small block with 2 peace crank seal . and i got another 5.7 vor tec one peace crank seal that was suspose to be built with high perform parts . but when i got it i try to turn it and it bind so i took off the oil pan and pull the caps taht was not all mark so i notice the rod b and crank b were scuff so i replace them and cheack the clearances betreen each rod cap . all good . but now im haveing problem with my starter gear getting stuck and not returning back to its place . on my brand new 168 tooth flex plat . . that was warp so i got anouter one . but the problem still exzist . this sht crazy .
@@roythornton919 thank you man my answer to you is.. may have to shim the starter or see about a smaller flex plate. Try the shims first be sure you have the correct starter for that motor. And also correct flexplate.
@@amberericjones5694 hi thank i did all that you said . above . new evry thing and it still dose it . so i heard about these w shims yes they kind of look like a w and there thinner and i heard when you put them under the starter were it bolt to the engine caseing it makes evry thing even . because the tricker one dont work as good . so im takeing about a week or two from working on the engine and refreshing my mind . because the shop i was at and could work on my vics and there vic lets just say me and the owner had it out . and i had to move now all i have is my yard again to work in . until later down the road . if i decide to do itr again .
@@roythornton919 sometimes thats the best way step back step away and clear the mind an return back to it. Alot of other people ran into this same issue I've heard over the yrs with the starter binding on the flexplate.
You would think that anyone who has years of experience on vehicles would know that it is necessary to check all the teeth wouldn't you!!!!
You would think
I replaced both same issues driving me crazy
Have you tried to shim the starter
@@amberericjones5694 yes
@@nyc1655 possibly wrong flywheel
Take a shin out it’s rounded off because the bendix isn’t hitting the flywheel square. The flywheel is hard metal bendix is soft nice try though.
After replacing flexplate and starter it solved the problem had no more issues. It meshed like it was supposed to.
Thanks
Yw
I was about to let a mechanic talk me into getting a new engine but you save me some money thanks again
@@otispowers2329 your welcome man glad I could help 😀
And check your timing
I wish I can show u mines . It look like rat teeth
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168 max
fly dont look to bad unless cam dint see it teeth looked good to me
I know some times camera dont pic up alot of things as if you were to look at it up close an personal. He had alot of teeth on the flexplate that were rounded off. After replacing the flex plate he had no more issues with the starter grinding