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Thanks Jay and Phil for still making videos during our current situation! Much appreciated for the entertainment while staying locked up. :) Also that music sample of Midnight Vibes gets a thumbs up from me!
JAYZ consider NeueChair - it's like 500-600€, but quality is not inferior than Herman Miller.
Hey man please consider doing viewer setup reviews and tips.
JAYZ One those JET pilot seats mite work ? they look SECURE & comfy - WAIT -> Accidently hits red button While gaming gets shot thru the ROOF🚀 onto the front yard of someone's house 2 blocks away 🤣🥶 Yikes what a ride 🔨⚙ Haa! the ifixit was a lol
@@simoSLJ89 I'm 6'4" and around 95kg in weight I've used a herman mill mirra, which made me look at buying a new chair, lovely but no way am i spending that amount although it is the only office chair i have sat on that i almost never sit on one of my legs on (yes i know incredibly bad habit which is why i mentioned it) I use an Ikea Markus at home and ive found it comfortable, would prefer the desk to be deeper even though on a corner. The markus has the armrests waaay to low and unadjustable but i dont find the Mirra's arm rests to be usable and i end up leaning too close to the monitor, (yes i think its not just the chair but the overall ergonomics) the Markus length of back rest just suits me far better than the Mirra. Lower arms, am working from home and I miss my Elecom thumball mouse with a 3d printed raised angle, as i have two mice to jump between to have variance.
Herman Miller and Logitech are revealing a new chair they worked on together on the 22nd of July! Enjoy.
That iFixit Ad is killin' it. Best Ad i've ever seen.
IFIXIT !
I F I X I T !!!!!!!! !
All it needed to be perfect was Terry Crews.
First time i havent skipped an ad lmao
I love his iFixit ad
This is literally the only iFixIt add I’ve watched and I don’t regret a second of it
Ad*
@@jack0fspades-svg629 good job you made the world a better place have a cookie
So this must be your first time watching him.
@@dragonwithak6051 to be fair, not knowing there's only 1 d in ad is kind of sad even for people new to English which this guy obviously isn't.
1:01 your welcome
Meanwhile me sitting in the wooden chair I stole from the dining table
I did the same. My back just started killing me and I had to upgrade.
xD
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE. I've been rocking the dining room chair rig for my work and gaming pc for over a year now. It's uncomfortable as all hell, but its get the job done. Still I am very excited for the day I can afford to upgrade
Ive been sittin on a wooden chair for 2 years now 😂😭
same dude i guess we r brothers :P
Yo that ifixit ad is too fire 🔥 the best.
So true 😂
Fr fr!!!! I fixit!!!!!
Not gonna lie, that ad was gold...
It was actually garbage… quit riding 🥜
The best youtube add ive seen bar possibly some of the first manscape adds...
Lets not forget, Jay told people not to donate to him while he was live streaming because he did not need the money, especially during this pandemic, ever since than, Jay has become my favourite youtuber!
Good guy
But were donations enabled?
3:48 Thank you for including the metric system, you get a like for that.
Superior
@@Jantzku Superior or not, for me, metric is just the system I need so I can have an idea how tall or short (or heavy or light) that is. If you give me someone's height in feet and inches, I'll be like, okay... is that a lot?
@@waigl1845 metric is superior all the american measurements are designed by a drunk mathematician rolling dice xD
Metric is not superior its just that others are obsolete
@@erfannomore2828 the metric system is superior for conversions (units of 10 instead of 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet in a yard, and who knows how many yards in a mile without google lol).
But, the imperial system can be great in some cases like…
um…
oh wait
You should really put in the description that it's a long term review of an Autonomous ErgoChair so people searching online for reviews can find it! I know this video is stale now & this'll be buried in comments, but good reviews of specific products are hard to find, especially long term ones, and a long term review of a superseded model is still very useful
I came here to appreciate this comment. I’ve been looking into different chairs and thankfully was recommended the video after a year from its original date. Still very good info and I’m appreciate the in depth and realistic review.
Should also add that they're just a rebranding company selling cheap chairs for 3-4 time the price you find them elsewhere
@@luke6038 Not sure what you mean but I cannot find this chair anywhere else. I heard it was on alibaba a few years back but that was from their own manufacturer
@@htko89 look up merryfair, malasyian company. It’s 100% repbranding, which would be fine with but autonomous is praising their own inhouse factory, masterful engineering and so on. Kinda shady
YESSSS THANK YOU! Was looking for the name of the chair lol
Finally a commentary on things that are truly important to comfort. We spend SO much time sitting, its very important to invest in the one thing that makes all the difference to fatigue and overall health and comfort. Thank you for this Jay. Much appreciated.
for overall health less sitting
Bringing the IFIXIT ad back put a grin on my face 😂😂😂😂
The I fix it ad.never gets old
I heard it can cure world hunger
It never gets old until it gets old
It'll be old some day but it'll still be great
And people say Linus has the most engaging ad spots. BLASPHEMY!
that's the thing about dead baby joke
it never gets old
I use a Steelcase Amia and I never regretted my purchase. I tried the Amia, Leap v2 and Gesture at a store and settle for the Amia because of it's superior seat imo. 100% worth it if you have a job where your sitted most of the time. 12 years garantee it huge also! I'll never go back to staples' chair or something of the like ever again.
"If you want a 24 hours chair that's good for your health"
Ah yes, finally I can be healthy while gaming for 24 hours straight :D
"Mom! More Hot Pockets! Mom!!"
This chair gave me a six pack after only two weeks of sitting in it. The key is to just never get up.
I’m glad someone finally pointed out the contradiction of the “gaming chair”
”Gaming” chairs are just chairs that look ”cool”. Trust me, i own one. But mine’s actually really really comfy.
"gaming" "military grade" etc are just hot keyword for people who don't know about item they're buying
@@yourordinarytwathere8789 true. "Gaming" is just a marketing strategy
@@aemen8796 for sure. They aren’t bad chairs though. Just expensive.
@@yourordinarytwathere8789 Oh, it strongly depends on the brand and model. There are some REALLY bad "Gaming Chairs" out there. They are great if you want to reduce your screen time, because you won't be sitting in it for more than maybe an hour or two.
I have one too and am very happy with it. But after two years of searching for a comfortable, sturdy and good looking Gaming Chair, I only found this single one that hits those marks. And they usually are rather expensive...
That iFixit advert might be the best thing I've ever seen *explosion*.
I actually got a high mesh back chair from Ikea for like 150 bucks and have been surprised by how much I like it. Support and comfort feels better than other hand me down chairs I've used in the past. The only think I would have changed is a cloth seat, but that one was out of stock. The leather seat isn't horrible but it's not my favorites. I have gripes being 5'2" but I can sit cross legged in it so that's a plus.
Herman Miller Aeron sitter here.
Over the years (5 or so), the mesh on the front edge of the seat has started to fray from all the sliding and twitching I do. It's not at the point where it's lost any support, but I expect I'll have to be replacing it in a couple years. This is an easy DIY project - there aren't any screwdriver heads that you won't be able to drive with a bit from a hardware store, and the construction of the seat is straightforward enough that you won't need to search for blueprints. It will require the proper shape of mesh, but that's about it.
In general, if you're a hardwood floor owner, you'll want to invest into hardwood floor casters, which are just your regular soft rollerblade wheel mounted in a caster rig. I had this rolling on engineered wood floors for years, and there aren't any dents or depressions in the finish. BUT, wood floors that feature a layer of plywood on top (like engineered wood) may crack in places where there are air pockets in the plywood layer.
Also, mesh seat is very nice because you can blow a fan through it. All swamp-ass sufferers here will appreciate.
That ifixit advert made me feel like i had to buy it to live. When this crisis is over I'm gonna buy a kit.
It may be too late by then...Buy it NOW!!!!!!🤣
I'm a mechanic by trade, i have over $70K worth of tools already and even i wanted to buy 1... 😂😂😂
Yep, buy it, like your life depends on it!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
“My weight depending on my mental state each year” I felt that. Guess it’s time to buy a chair
For my sins, I bought a "gaming chair" at over 100 GBP I was "convinced that it was the best thing ever.
After a few months of heavy use, both as a dinner table chair, a TV chair and s gaming chair, I can finally admit.. it sucks. I went to an office clearance place and tried an "business " class of chair.
I will never buy a "gaming" chair again
Oh yeah that sucks. I have just a cheap IKEA chair that i find it very comfortable after years of use. I also try to get up and walk around as it keeps my mind from wanting to die.
I have a cheap staples chair that’s kinda “gaming”ish but it’s pretty comfy
@@tmi1234567 the cheap ikea office chair is alot better then all of those "gaming" chairs out there.
i went to an ikea to buy a chair for moving.
They had a gaming chair for like 187€ and an office chair for 60€.
I now have that 60€ office chair
Gaming chairs are trash
Great video! I just showed this one to my wife, who is an occupational therapist. She found it very informative, Thank you.
We all know that the most overlooked part is the *gaming socks*
Binninja SANL The RGB adds 30 mph to your walking speed
don't get into custom keyboards...
u can buy it at lttstore.com
Yeah but u need to have both of them in SLI otherwise you won't reach full potential of those socks.
I thought it was gamer bath water
Thanks for the honest review! I'm glad I waited on this chair when I started seeing the ads. I'll keep looking for a nice used herman miller.
I'm in the same boat. Was looking to replace my current chair that has seen better days. The ErgoChair kept coming up in my feed. The price point looked great, but Jay's review (and a few others) have turned me off. I was also looking at refurbished Aerons because they "seem" like a deal. If you go that route, be very careful with who you buy it from. I found 2 sites that looked legit, but did a BBB check on them. Let's just say you don't want to do business with those companies.
I've got my ErgoChair 2 half a year ago based on one of your older videos about it. Very happy with it so far. Though, interestingly, both you and Steve's video mentioned that loud sound when adjusting the headrest angle, but mine does not do it. It just fixates quietly. Maybe that's one of the small changes they've done in newer models?
damn it, that iFIXit ad makes all my depression go away
that was the funniest shit i´ve seen in awhile xD
Best Ad i ever seen, thx IFIXIT.
You mean Herman Miller?
michael bay explosionnnnnnnnnnnnn
Sparky no he meant the sponsor
The Ifixit ad style is so old, but the fact that you nail it so well makes it really cool
I need a chair that wont make my cheeks sweat. I love my DXracer, but man its a sweat fest.
staples hyken mesh task check that one out
Mesh chairs are godly. There are some good $150-300 mesh chairs that are basically copies of $800 chairs
I'm so glad you asked this question! I'm headed to Staples first thing in the morning to check out the Hyken Mesh Task Chair for 240 USD!
@@hamyncheese I've had a $160 mesh chair since March. I never sweated even when it was hot out and on colder days my butt gets a bit cold. It takes a bit of getting used to initially but it is worth it
Now I'm thinking about Linus' water cooled chair.
Me watching your ifixit add going: "Isolation just kicked in yo!" :)
New to the channel ?
i, kept waiting for the "Not a sponsored ad" tag to kick in. the whole while going "did Jay finally get sponsored?"
@@aadipandey8237 no, but if you were a car guy, you'd get it :)
We've been so focused on Jay's set up, that we have forgotten to ask "how Jay is doing?"
ifixit ad? Best I have ever seen. Took me back to 80s! Love it! haha
I also have the Vertagear office style chair and been loving it for 3yrs+ now and its held up so well it barely has any wear or aging anywhere on it.
The background setup really suits this style of video, I'd love to see it more frequently jay
I think you will start seeing quite a mixture of my home setup mixed in with our studio videos.
@@Jayztwocents Nebula is a beautiful backdrop, please make more of these "Talking head" style videos if you have more topics to cover :)
@@Stampede_G2 ikr
@@Jayztwocents back to the roots of the channel
Appreciate the content, Jay.
Can’t overstate the need for a quality chair when you’re an office worker, or spend a lot of time at the desk, like a gamer. Even more so if both! I had a Herman Miller Aeron for probably 15 years. I’m now about 4 or 5 years into a Herman Miller Embody. Man, it’s like there’s no chair there at all. It’s like I float.
Kids, there’s an old saying. Spend your money on the things that connect you to the ground. That’s your bed, your shoes, your chair, and your tires. That advice has served me well for many, many years. Ignore that at your peril.
Lastly, loved the Ifixit bit. Had a very Crazy Eddie vibe. Took me back to Saturday morning NY area TV with Crazy Eddie hawking his Christmas in July sale. Insaaaaaaaaaane!
Which herman miller chair would you recommend? And how tall and heavy are you?
That's once nice chair ya got there. I'm envious. No way I can afford it though lol.
@@houssamalucad753 The Aeron is great. I bought a Size C for myself off craigslist for $400. It's a almost too big and i'm 6'2" 250 lbs. I brought home a Size B [from work] that they weren't using because it has no tilt lock mechanism. Get one with tilt lock. It has a pneumatic tilt mechanism so it's not too bad, but the lock makes a huge difference. This tiltless one is from 2006 btw, and still works just like the Size C that is only a couple years old.
Moral of the story, get a size B Aeron unless you're over 6'2" or over 250 lbs. They're cheaper on craigslist. See them all the time for $400-600, just make sure you get one with the tilt lock mechanism.
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Do I skip my 1000€ pc build and instead get a chair?? I sit at the PC all day
Totally agree. I'm a software developer, currently in homeoffice and after the first few days I really noticed how bad my chair is compared to the one at my workplace...
That dust at 10:10 is real! Thanks for the informative video as I'm shopping for a new chair myself!
Thanks Jay for an honest review, Ive been using cheap sub $150 chairs at home and hating life when in the office we use Herman Miller Mirra or HumanScale chairs. Bit the bullet and picked up the ErgoChair 2 and already this is the first full day sitting in it and very comfortable. Well worth the $339 (current price with holiday sale)
for some reason i thought you had a different chair and this vid, which i watched when you initially posted it, didnt realize you were using the ErgoChair. Good stuff bro!
What I left this video with "I NEED IFIXIT"
I need Phil to add him laughing at Jay in the background... i NEED it
The Phil laugh track, just add it to random things lol!
TheStig ZeroZeroZero or upload a regular and a “Phil cut” with his comments
I have had an almost identical looking chair for a few years and love it. I sit in it for extended hours at a time and the only issue I have had is that the cushion needed a wash. I got it for the support, but also for the mesh backing, and in addition to what Jayz mentioned, the mesh backing also helps airflow in summer so that it doesn't feel as sweaty if its really hot.
tip for mesh back chairs: add a fan behind the chair and you'll never have a warm back or head
I’ve had this chair for a good while now and I love it.
Coming from a somebody that's roughly 6'5", thank you. It's hard to find content about this sort of thing, that's actually applicable. And I totally agree about the leather seats! way too hot!
7' here, nothing for my height that cost less than the pc itself xD.
Me using a foldable plastic chair:
👁👄👁 AMAZING
YES Jay! you're a big dude too! I bought one a few months ago and I LOVE mine. absolute game changer. Convinced me to make my first real video about it.
Ergoschair 1 or 2?
i always take the reviewers sincerity when they embed sponsor ads in their video that are unrelated to the product they are reviewing. Absolute honesty
I have a HM Aeron and a Tempur-Pedic mattress. I believe it’s important to invest in the areas you spend most of your life; for me, that’s sitting in my office or sleeping in bed. I’ve never regretted either purchase.
Yea, I don't understand people who say, "that chair is too expensive" and then go out and spend 1.5k on a TV. Back surgery is expensive. Investing in things you use for hours is important.
Amen. I have a Steelcase Leap v2, and a Sleep number i8. Once you hurt your back, there's no fixing it. Keep it healthy to avoid those painful issues.
also shoes.
Yup, HM Aeron user here too. Surprisingly easy to find on craigslist, usually from some other company's liquidation, in the $300-400 range.
Yes Exactly, so true, why spend 350 on this chair when for just a bit more you can get a used Herman Miller from Craigslist or Ebay.
That IFixit ad killed me 🤣😂
As another tall guy, I greatly appreciate your take on this. You understand. Thank you
Thank you for this! I needed this exact explanation. I am 6’4 and 260-270 pounds. It is SO HARD to find a good chair. After working standing all day for 5 years, then switching to a work from home gig, I have been suffering from such bad back pain. I was using a typical, sub $200 gaming chair because it matched the colors of my other desk accessories. And it was fine back when I only spent 1-2 hours each da in it. Now that I spend 9-12 hours a day in a chair, I really need to bite the bullet and make a good investment. I will be ordering this next week for sure
I've had the Ergo Chair 2 for a couple years now (give or take) and I love it! I'm 6 foot, 215 lbs., and have a very long torso. I've never had the static problems that Jay mentions and she's still as quiet as the day I bought her. I bought the first one for work and have recently been saving up to get another one for home because I loved it so much and my home chair is falling apart. Would highly recommend.
Phil needs to add his laugh into these videos, it feels like something is missing without him laughing at Jay
Was thinking the same :)
Add that laugh after that sick iFixit ad
Great long term review - thanks. Just wish that one of the higher-end manufacturers would have a model with flip up arms. As a musician in the studio this is a must-have and cheap gamer chairs are killingmy butt....
Secretlab Titan XL in fabric, sooo good! I spend 15+ hours a day in this chair and its amazing.
I swear that iFixIt commercial will never get old lmao
Agreed lol
I just ordered my ErgoChair2 yesterday, aaaaand it'll be here in 6weeks cause of the pandemic. Gotta love it
I know, it said mine would ship on the 3rd but nope
i ordered mine three weeks ago, shipped the monday after, got it the next friday.
Sucks it changed so much.
This working from home has made me learn to get a good chair. Back has been killing me in this Staples Leather chair. Cushion hurts and the back slightly tilts back.
I ordered mine two days ago and its looking like 4 weeks.
ordered mine 2 days ago, it says 7 april but reading yall its not gonna be soon lol
Flash foward... I see you got the Herman Miller Embody, and it too is a static electricity monster... i'd like a comparison between that and this...
I have a Herman Miller Embody. Worth every penny. Will keep buying from them.
Lol I'm literally using a chair from the dinner table.
Probably better for your posture then a lot of the cheaper office chairs.
Me 2 😅👍
lol same as my office chair broke a few days ago. have you any ideas on making them more comfortable as im using a cushion from the sofa and still having to stand every hour due to numb bum syndrome
I'm not using ANY chair! ;)
sam worrell Try folding an placing a towel underneath the pillow.
I've been sitting in a Steelcase Leap V2 for the last 5 years and I absolutely love it.
Agreed. After probably spending just as much on various Office Depot rejects over the years, I finally ponied up for a Leap V2 a couple months ago and has been a joy to sit in. Worked out well since I am currently working from home.
Steelcase Think.
I use the same chair both at home and in the office and I couldn't be happier with it. I will say most people seem to prefer either it or the Herman Miller Aeron, maybe find a place you can sit in one before making that big purchase.
How's the breathability? That backing doesn't look like it provides much and I'm in a humid state.
Same here, I’ve had it for 2 years. Got it at a local used furniture store for $160. Probably my luckiest find.
Totally agree about the Gaming racing car seat type of chairs. I had a Respawn 110 and I hated it. The memory foam seat compressed down in about 15 minutes to the point it was like sitting on a board. I literally gave it away. I need a chair with the very well padded but seat. I'm still looking for a good one yet
had a DX racer Max for 4 years until it started breaking apart piece by piece. It was wide enough that the racing chair bolsters never bothered me though and was very comfortable until the padding started wearing out.
I used to watch Jay for the tech, the Dad jokes, and the relatability. Now I watch in the hopes of seeing his IFIXIT promo 😂.
Hey Jay! I’ve recently found you on UA-cam sometime earlier this week, and all this information has been quite helpful in me selecting parts and such finally allowing me to build my first gaming pc next week!! Just wanted to say keep up the honest work cause you give guys like me, who’ve never tried to build a pc before, the courage and information to correctly build a pc. Thanks man!
I got an ErgoChair 2 because of your video on it, and I absolutely love it.
I just got the Beautyrest Royo. It is absolutely perfect in every way.
I've warehoused and built hundreds if not thousands of commercial office chairs over the last couple years, so here are some of my amateur chair person (?) thoughts.
1. Mesh seat pans are overrated, they tear and stretch worse than leather.
2. The price/quality ratio is a bell curve. The higher-end budget chairs are better than the entry-level mid tier. Don't go over $400, don't go under $800.
3. Adjustable and locking head and lumbar support > support pillows.
4. Standard barrel-pin casters are cheap and easy to replace.
5. NOTE FOR JAY: Commercial office suppliers can order big and tall chairs with extra caster prongs, wider seat and back pans, heavier materials, etc.
my chair broke . so im sitting in a wooden chair from my kitchen XD
Bro me too mine broke this mornin :(
I've been rocking the wooden kitchen chair for years. I should probably treat myself on an actual office chair, for the sake of my back XD
Same here man haha
@@QRTZGFX aaaah XD a man of culture i see XD
Story of my life lol
I used an Ikea Markus for a while and it was pretty good even with no adjustability except the height. The only issue I had was the arms are connected at the front and back instead of the middle and the support bar would dig into my thighs a bit unless I consciously kept my knees together. Once I started working from home full time, I ordered a Steelcase Gesture which is in the Aeron price class (though both were a couple hundred dollars cheaper last summer than the price you showed), but it's great even after sitting in it all day every day for more than a year now.
I use a saddle chair for a lot of my day work - operating where i am leaning forward unsupported for example (or with light finger rests). It's not for everyone and can take some getting used to but is a far better base to set your spine position than many 'pan' seats.
Might be worth a look for any of you who have never seen one.
*Be aware your sitting height will be different to a normal chair so desk height then becomes an issue. THey work well where you have adjustable desk :).
Is it bad that every time I see a water drinker cup thing I say to myself LTTStoredotcom?
Just means the the annoying pricks strategy worked.
lol, yeah...
Jay says his chair is a 5 year chair. For the cost that is fine. I have had my Herman Miler for 12 years and just had to replace it. $ per Year they are real similar. You just save time shopping.
What was wrong with your Herman Miller, and which was it?
I'd prefer a 5 year chair thats 1/5 of the cost, in case i dont like it, i havnt commited too much, also, accidents happen
@@tanujrana8490 These types of chairs have 12 year warranties. Accidents do happen, but it's covered by default.
@João M. Most of the complaints are probably from people who could not afford it. I will only buy Herman Miller chairs. There are two reasons: comfort and warranty. I had a HM chair for 10 years. The back would no longer stay up. I took it to the HM dealer. The HM dealer called me two days later and said come in and choose a new chair. HM chose to not repair the chair and to just give me a brand new chair. I now have a new chair with a 12 year warranty. About 4 years into, one of the armrest 'rivets' broke. I brought it in and they repaired it, tuned the chair up and had it ready in 4 days.
I will not buy a cheap chair again. Jay is right. There is a reason why they are premium chairs. They are built for comfort and longevity.
João M. Amazon reviews (for United States at least) are very very good for Herman Miller chairs. Besides, Herman Miller is the best of the best in terms of support and comfort. Since we only have one body/one back and damage both every time we spend hours in a chair, I think the cost is definitely worth the safety (plus the cost of later issues that back problems will bring could be hundreds of times more expensive).
Even though I watched it like a dozen times I always love that Ifixit ad 😂😂😂
I will say about casters, i recently bought the rollerblade style casters that are wood floor safe, and boy are they nice. Very smooth and quiet. 20-30 bucks on amazon totally worth it especially if you have hardwood floors like me, no more plastic mat.
This is such an amazing video and I am happy to finally find someone who is in the same situation I am. Being 6'4" and 275 pounds my chair is a very important piece of equipment in my set up. At some point I will probably break down and buy one of the top dollar chairs available. You sir are much appreciated!
Did you get it and if so how do you like it?
@@socoolzack I got the Fractal and I love it. Well designed and built. Easy to work with and beautiful to look at... I would highly recommend it to anyone.
BEST I FIX IT AD EVER! THEY SHOULD HAVE SPONSORED SOONER
I READ THAT IN THE VOICE HE USED IN THE AD, OH YEAH
You've earned a new subscriber. Thanks for your honesty!
Titan XL 2020 version for me. One of the best purchases I've made for my setup.
Best I fixit ad ever 😂😂
also I just sit in a pretty normal wooden kitchen chair with a pillow on it
also also microcenter warrantied my 3900x today PLUS gave me $88.08 credit since prices dropped 😁. best store ever
also also also I didn't have the stock cooler when I returned it, and got another new one 😂😂
nice
nice
Was it the prism?
@@brunbjorn9095 yeah I put the original prism on a 3600 I sold to a friend , so didn't have it in the box to return the CPU, either he didn't notice or didn't care... figured they'd at least wanna test it before giving me a brand new one but whatever
just adding to my original comment, did some research and not super confident in this chair or the version 2.....so just ponied up (kinda lol, doing the 1 year through affirm) for the Herman Miller aeron . now just to see if it shows up before next year 🤣
I'm rocking a Secret Lab Titan and holy cow, I love that thing. So good.
Same here. I got the cloth version because it breathes better. At 6'2" 269lbs this Titan checks all the boxes with adjustments and sturdy build for a guy my size. I tried one of those stupid racing chairs and sold it after a week. The only thing missing is the head rest. Although, their memory foam pillow is quite nice when reclining. Just wish they would come out with a matching ottoman.
Ken Sim it is a gaming chair
Would like to see what jay thinks of it
same at 6'5" 190 lbs cloth love it, over a year now no regrets.
an office (mesh!) chair will always be nicer to sit on... made the change from some dxracer to secretlabs titan to a neuechair (also sold by secretlabs) - and i wouldn't wanna go back one step. the controls on the neuechair are not great after 1.5y of usage - i'll definitely get a herman miller next.
Revisiting this video, and thanks for doing this one Jay! I think I'm about to pull the trigger on a Herman Miller. With the combined: work from home AppSec job, moonlighting software development, I occasionally film from the desk, and some light gaming...yeah, I feel all of that warrants a top-tier chair. Especially after hearing your comments about the "hour rating" and comments about what things pieces look like after 2-3 years of use. It's a lot, but it's directly tied to my job and health.
I sat in Aeron at work for 3 years and always thought it's a meh chair. Not bad. But it never felt truly comfortable for me.
Thanks for the information. I am going to buy the chair now!
*"I've got it max stiff right now"* - JayzTwoCents 2020
lmao
I've read researching chairs and apparently having a firm to medium-firm padding in your seat will actually help your posture, and not harm it.
not sure i can agree
@@polar6066 Science says otherwise. Firmer seat pad supports your body's weight better than a soft pad does. Soft may feel better short-term, but over time it takes the full weight and shape of a person which can lead to a lot of discomfort. Most of the premium chair companies use some kind of firm seat pad
I'm 6'5", 220, using one of those racer seats that looked like a cheap deal on Amazon. Leather, sweat, too small, you name. So glad I found this video Jay.
My chair is a toddler stool with a pillow, a blanket folded and then a gel seating pad for my car I took when this rig found its home lol...my ass hurts after a couple hours and then I fold the gel seating pad and I'm good for another couple hours...
Never thought about the breathability in a chair. Jay has 2 cents my man!
Is that where the ass smell comes from after long gaming sessions? 😂 I know I shower everyday
this is surprisingly HUGE. I HATE leather chairs now, it just doesnt compare. I didnt realize how uncomfortable I was with my last chair just due to HEAT. Previous chair waaass.... Realspace® Axton Big And Tall. Current chair i cannot find but is very similar to the WorkPro® 12000 Series Ergonomic Mesh/Fabric Mid-Back Manager's Chair.
Not only do fake leather chairs make you sweat more, after a while the material starts to wear out as well and flake off and will be everywhere in your home
You know, I've been sitting in a wheelchair for 22 years now, and I've never understood all this elaborate crap they put in office chairs when wheelchair surfaces are literally just a piece of cloth stretched between two metal rods, and most people who use them have some spinal damage - myself included - that makes seating comfort all the more important for them, so I thought all of these office chair features are basically just snake oil. This was THE video that convinced me I should give one of these a go. Thanks!
That has blown my mind. Not that I see wheelchairs on a daily basis or anything, but every single one I do see is exactly as you describe, a piece of cloth between two rods. Why the hell don't wheelchairs have these ergonomic features built in? I understand cost would be a big factor but I would have thought they'd be a bit more prevalent, haven't seen even one.
@@pkbeast Yea, and that's the exact reason why I've been thinking if I'm good to sit in one for hours on end, I don't need all these features an office chair has... but the thing is, I do not sit still in a wheelchair the entire time, I move around, and even so my back starts hurting after a couple hours, which I've always blamed on the actual condition I'm having, instead of the comfort of the chair. Now I'll try such an office chair to find out how much longer I can sit in one without having to lay down a bit to recover from all the strain.
From my understanding the seats of wheel chairs are made that way so they are easily collapsable. Most people I know who are reliant on a wheel chair have a cushion they add to the chair usually a cheap pillow or high quality memory foam.
@@pkbeast there are ergonomic wheelchairs but are super expensive. Also wheelchairs are not supposed to be used for a whole day.
@@dominic.h.3363 While I can't talk about the chairs of the calibre in this video but I can say that I gone from a cheapo £40GBP (~$65 USD) desk chair to a £100 (~$160 USD) one and found an ENORMOUS difference in the comfort and ergonomics. Best decision I've made, in fact I'm looking for one in the £200-£300 mark to replace this one. (USD conversions at pre-Brexit values as that's when I bought them)
I have had this very chair for just over year now and bought it purely because of this video...that and I needed an new chair! I still have this chair, this chair is still good as new and this chair is THE most comfortable chair I have ever had. Both I and my backside thank you!! Cheers M.
Bro what’s the name please
@@sammyshadi7621 mine is a Hbada HDNY115BS/CB. It isn’t as adjustable as the one reviewed here, but still the most comfortable chair I’ve had.
Got a Noblechair Hero real leather. Extremely comfortable, adjustable lumbar support, lock and unlocking back to rock back and forth. Highly recommended.
this ifixit ad is, by FAR, my favorite one 😂😂😂
5:44 "For a guy my size, I don't ever feel like it's stiff enough." lol
Well, it's hers to judge :P
If you have scoliosis the back mesh is a must since it doesn't push your spine and create discomfort on long sit sessions :)
For me this changed everything
You're video quality always amazes me! And the editing is on point, wooo Phil :)
LOL Jay that IFixit ad had me laughing so damn hard. Love your sense of humor.
ZL1 Desktop Wallpaper/Screensaver.... Awesome! They are great machines! I have the 2017 NON-1LE version.
I love your iFixit ad! Awesome tools too!
THANK YOU IFIXIT! I think I needed that laugh more than I realized! 🤣🤣🤣
I've been sitting on a swiss ball as my chair for 15 years now. Makes you work on your posture all the time! Cheaper than a chair as well.
12 hours a day?
@@whirlywhirly5758 When I'm home yeah
the new iFixit ad is pretty good, thanks again for the entertaining ads and videos, love ur work!
Great video. Was really debating between getting mesh office chair vs a gaming chair. Thanks
That iFixit ad made me have flashbacks of old Micro Machines commercials.
Do it again.