As a curiuos mind,who dwelled pretty deep unto the lost ancient civilization line of thought,im really thankful that i found this channel,i think this helped me back to te "right" path.
When 'Chariots of the Gods' appeared around 50 years ago, I was blown away at the astounding revelations contained therein. I was just as blown away when various debunkers shot the whole thing down with utterly convincing facts. A lesson was learned. Thank you, David, for remaining vigilant.
I've been following the work of Graham Hancock for over 20 years and was a firm believer in his hypothesis and the similar one of other authors. I have spent the last 2 weeks binge watching your videos on the subject of ancient civilizations and I have had a sort of epiphany. I realise I suspended my disbelief even though I'm a science teacher. I was drawn into the allure of the mystery of it all. Your videos lifted the veil on my eyes. Yesterday I sold all of my Hancock and similar books. In a way, I feel a sense of loss, but the realization that I was suckered into yet another conspiracy theory is liberating. Thank you for what you do!
@@claudiaxander No, I just commented on one of their videos. I said “hey you should check the WOA channel with Dr Miano, he’s a smart guy.” And they obviously didn’t like it. I was hoping to be cursed out in French but that didn’t happen either.
@@AdvancedLiving Wow they are touchy! I had a Gobekli tepe star chart guy lose the plot on his own channel but didn't know how to delete me as I posted under his own comment! Lol
That little bit about Flinders Petrie catching someone filing down a stone to fit his theories is the perfect analogy for Hancockians. "Don't be that guy." 😄
So glad to see you continuing this series! Those debunking videos are my favourite content of yours. Not only is it satisfying to see you taking the arrogant peddlers of pseudoscience down a notch but one also always learns a lot from your videos. I found you through your collab with Trey and have watched every single one of the Myths videos since then and quite a lot of the other ones as well. Really hope your channel will soon get the huge audience it deserves. Maybe some other collabs with bigger channels might help?
And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept .
I know your vidoe you acknowdlge that the epgytians might have known pi and golden ratio which is not that hard to belive since the anicent greeks did too alot of the greek philopsheres studied in egypt to learn from the egyptians
@@WorldofAntiquity The debunkers, never build anything. Why is that? They will tell you how they do it, but where is the evidence? Lets see someone stack stones, and tile tunnels with granite blocks. Where are the debunkers, when the rubber hits the road? No where.
I want to thank you for these videos. They have helped me get a few friends to question their beliefs when it comes to ancient history. Especially when it comes to Graham Hancock.
Don’t mean to over comment, BUT, I did hear these words come out of Graham Hancock’s mouth: “the metric system was re-discovered…” Wow, that makes things incredibly convenient.
Hancock is a liar and a conman. The Metric system is a human INVENTION. Therefore it cannot be discovered. The difference between invention and discovery is profound, and Hancock knows the difference, and yet he conflates the two concepts in order to deceive gullible and ignorant people.
@@Chris.Davies The metric system is a system that utilizes water at it's base point. 100 mm x100mm x100mm box can hold 1litre of water and it weighs 1 kilo. Egyptian methods of measurement in fact were the exact same: "To conclude, the ancient Egyptian 1 royal cubit to ½ hekat relation in a sphere is no less sophisticated than the modern 10 cm3 to 1 liter relation expressed in a cube. This wisdom of sphere-based relationship, which was inherent and possibly unique to Egypt and its cultural sphere of influence, was lost over the ages." The title of the scientific paper is "An Ancient Relation between Units of Length and Volume Based on a Sphere". by Elena Zapassky, Yuval Gadot, Israel Finkelstein, and Itzhak Benenson.
@@sandman8993 he’s ripping off Lovecraft in a lot of stuff. “The Doom that Came to Sarnath”, “The Nameless City”, “The Whisperer in Darkness”, and “At the Mountains of Madness” all touch on things Hancock talks about.
I love how they get 9 decimal accuracy despite nobody knowing exactly where any of the edges were. And even if they were all still there and all razor sharp and all perfectly straight, thermal expansion alone would make 9 decimal point accuracy impossible.
11:00 Dave, I've got a PhD in math. Not only would I not be surprised to learn the Egyptians knew about π and φ, even if they didn't know about it, it would be mundane to find these numbers coincidentally associated with just about anything, and requiring less numerological mashup that to find other coincidences. The reason why π, φ, e, and other numbers are significant numbers is precisely *because* they show up so frequently in so many contexts. It's like being surprised at finding the number 1 associated with the pyramid. 1 is the multiplicative identity, one of the most significant numbers there is (probably the second most significant after 0). Lo and behold, there is 1 great pyramid. Astounding! 2 is the smallest prime and also a significant number, and when you stand at a corner of a pyramid you can see 2 sides! The number 4 has special significance in abstract algebra (in ways too technical to go into here, but it sticks out like a sore thumb) and incredibly there are 4 sides to the pyramids. Finding other significant numbers such as π and φ is not really any more incredible than finding these.
Humans are endowed with "pattern recognition" - likely as a result of our evolution. Had our progenitors not learned to discern between the brush and the predator hiding in the brush = we would not be here. So even children learn by "association" and over the course of their lives will learn to pick out recognizable patterns to associate things with them - as Pi etc. represent. Trial & Error and applying patterns we see in nature is actually behind a lot of things we now take for granted.
I would also expect pi to show up in MOST buildings of the time period, because using a wheel with a paint mark on it would've been super easy to do to mark out where construction is being done, and any time you used a tool like that, you'd end up with a structure whose base is easily divisible by pi, right?
@@adamthaxton3157 Yes, but it's worse (better?) than that. You don't need a circle. Anything with cycles or repetition or certain types of symmetry is enough to hide pi just a little under the surface.
Furthermore, 4 is pronounced "shi" in Japanese, which is a homonym for "death", it's a similar story in Chinese. That's why that number is taboo and often replaced and some hotels don't have 4th floor. IT COULD NOT BE A COINCIDENCE THAT PYRAMID NOT ONLY HAS 4 ANGLES BUT ALSO 4 SIDES! Only one explanation: aliens.
Another great video! I'll just add that not only did the Egyptians not have meters, they also didn't measure time in seconds! The second was first put forward as a measurement of time in the 11th century CE (about 3.5 millennia after the great pyramid was built) by the Persian scholar Al-Bīrūnī, and it wouldn't gain widespread adoption until centuries later. So the assumption that the Egyptians were trying to communicate the speed of light in m/s using latitude when they didn't use meters, seconds, or latitude as measurements is laughable. Keep up the great work.
I think the debunk videos you make, are the most important ones. People use UA-cam for knowledge today, and "mysteries" based on science fiction, hear say and confirmation bias are all over the place. They get million of views. And the result? Allot of people actually thinks "science" is a group of people that is just about smart enough to open a box of beans. The trend is not positive for humanity, and I hope good content creators like you are able to turn it around with time. I know it takes allot of time. Thanks.
I agree, there is so much ancient history nonsense on the internet. I see the tide turning slowly but surely though. Academic content is notoriously difficult to get views and subs on UA-cam. World Of Antiquity is pushing nearly 20k subs now, quite an achievement. Lets be honest, if you want 20,000 views in a week, all you have to do is put the words "alien" and "pyramid" in a thumbnail. Massive respect to WOA for their integrity.
At the precise moment I write this comment, there are 59 comments, 186 likes and 3 dislikes. If you multiply 59 with 186 and divide the sum by 3 you get 3658. Exactly, 365, the number of days in the year, very precisely! Plus 8. But 8 + 4 is 12, yes, the number of months in a year. Then why 4 would the mainstream historians ask? Well, there are 4 letters in the name Giza, AND in the English word year, and that can't be a coincidence. But wait, there's more: 3658 divided by 4 gives us a very precise number of 914.5. And as everyone knows, the palakulakulaghinst-yohiyohiho, the unit for measurement used by the famous builders of the the Tabac-PMU at Castelnau-Barbarens, France, is exactly 914.5 meters. Now isn't that enlightening? Thank you for this video. Those numerological deliriums are so embarrassing...
Though done in jest, its at least as credible as any of that guff being dissected by David (not me, the important one making the debunking video). Whenever I listen to it I ca't help thinking of the cartoon character Grassy Knollington. from the Viz comic...
As you pointed out a Ratio does not depend on the unit of measurement. if you measure in "temple inches" or "road kill rabbits " the ratio is the same.
I remember some guy saying that the length of each side of the pyramid was an exact ratio of Pi. I told him that the Egyptians did not have ways of measuring long distances except by using a wheel rolling along the ground and counting each rotation of the wheel, therefore creating a distance with a multiplier of Pi.
Wow! Very informative video, I always thought how much of an absolutely amazing coincidence it was that these numbers all came together in the pyramids and have never seen anyone really counter argue it, this really makes things make sense! Thank you for all this information!
And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept . ADRIAN TUESTA 101 ADRIAN TUESTA 101 2 days ago To note this are just basic ratio like the perimeter divided by the height its not like I am multiplying random stuff
@@adriantuesta1012 Formatting, comrade. Your giant wall of unreadable run-on sentences doesn’t help you make… _whatever_ point you think you’re making.
@@adriantuesta1012 friend… _nobody_ has bothered to read that, not for more than a few of what *should* be sentences. (But aren’t) I’m trying to help you. If you want to make a point, you want to make it legible. That wall you wrote was not legible and made no point. This isn’t a personal attack.
If you take the height of the Great Pyramid (138 m) and multiply it by my height (1.8 m) you get to the number 248,4. This is clearly a reference to Cantate 284/4 of the Weihnachts-Oratorium by J.S. Bach. Perhaps I too, should start a UA-cam channel to reveal this startling truth, as it is clearly more evidence of an Advanced Ancient Culture!
On the note of the pronunciations of π and φ, I've found that English speakers often turn what we would call "short" vowels in Greek or Latin into "long" vowels out of convention. Diphthongs really. I think a few Greek terms we've adopted and kept more or less in their original form have ended up experiencing the vowels shifting with the rest of the English language and as such it became intuitive for us to read those things that way. When I first noticed we pronounce literally every classical Greco-Roman word 'wrong' for no real reason it kind of annoyed me, but that's just how things shook out.
I wish people would stop saying we don't know who built the Great Pyramid. We literally have written documentation of its construction. We even know what they called it: "Akhet Khufu".
Very well done. Pyramidology detracts from the real engineering skills that the builders possessed. Many thanks, Jake D., Civil Engineer, ten years experience in Egypt.
Thank you very much for your videos. I was deep on the alternative history rabbit hole, but everything seems to make sense now and it's so much more fascinating!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video despite being very into a lot of GH's ideas. I feel like videos like this are a step in the right direction but we shouldnt be so quick to burn the books or discount larger ideas, but rather challenge them to be held to a higher standard. The reality is we dont know how old the pyramids are and what knowledge they are beholdent to. Challenging the archaeological dogma is just as important as challening the out there ideas! The more people who are interested in this topic the more minds we have go get to the bottom of this magnificent mystery that is our past. Thank you 😁
A long time ago in Egypt.... Government official: Hey guys. My boss wants us to cut and stack big pieces of stone. We plan to cut the stones so that they point twords the sun. Anyone interested? General public: I don't know man. What's in it for me? Government official: Hmmm.... How about lots of beer and food? General public: Sounds tempting. Throw in some makeup and we will help.
They also grew a lot of Opium. That will help with any aches. I don't know enough about the subject thought. It is obviously a grey area of history. But if it were to educate modern humans how they could be easily manipulated by their vices. Then it might be one actually worth exploring. One day.
There is NO "special mathematical formula" in a pyramid. People are doing what we always do, see patterns, relationships and assuming way too much from simple observation and repetition...
Bingo! It is the basis of statistical fallacies. People after the fact ascribing all manner of purported "correlations" to something. Where they always fail however is to articulate evidence to demonstrate the creators in question: 1 - knew of the concept. 2 - intended to employ it as claimed. 3 - further do we see it employed in other things as well. Moral of the story: to claim a thing ------> base what you claim solely upon said thing --------> while lacking above = risks becoming circular reasoning. You can not claim the pyramids represent "X" - when all rest of the evidence points to "Y" - to then use the pyramid of justification of the same "X" claim as ultimately all you have is your willingness to believe what you claim. So as my post a while back showed if you played with Super Bowl scores enough you could probably come up with some fantastical correlation the Great Pyramid supposedly represents............. = but that does not make it so.
Dr Miano with another homerun! Answered a lot of my questions regarding the pyramid math. No other channel challenges the ancient history fallacies like this one, great work
I feel like we all owe you a beer (or drink of your choice) for siting through all these videos with mental and mathematic gymnastics to make these videos for us.
This is like the 6video i watched and yeah wow.good work man,i trust you more then videos i seen till now.Im open minded on evrything, but i like how you can explain all things
As someone who’s been inside the pyramids, the idea that they could be used as anything but a tomb is laughable. The actual rooms inside are about the size of a stunted peanut shell.
Yes. "Size" is an oft overlooked variable vis a vis the use of granite. The King's Chamber and adjoining portcullis chamber is not very large really. Further its largest components - the relieving slabs above the chamber - are little more than rectangular-ish crude chunks of granite. So they hammered them out "just enough" to make them fit without worrying about what they looked like as no one was expected to see them. This undermines the purported "precision" argument as it shows they were only precise in matters where something was expected to be seen. It therefore is not implausible that the outward sides of the blocks of the chamber below may not have even been finished/polished as the inward face was to save time and effort. Finally the fact that it contains a sarcophagus as other tombs also contained - though its broken lid and side chunks were cleared out years ago when the chamber was renovated in the early 90's to make it safer for tourism = proves it was a tomb. (Look at old photos of the chamber pre-restoration to see broken wall/floor/lid chunks strewn about which were subsequently repaired) Add to this the reality that the pyramid is in a necropolis situated on the west bank of the Nile - the "land of the dead" in the Egyptian religion - and any other rationalization save for a tomb becomes ludacris on its face. 🤔
This is such a relief. Thank you so much for this great video. There is a point I wanted to transfer/say to people so much but didn't really know how to say it, and I am glad I found that you mentioned it. The part where you explain it could simply be a byproduct of the construction 12:00 ❤️It also added to my knowledge. Truly great video Thx so much.
There were dinosaurs which measured from tip of the nose to tip of the tail approximately exactly a meter. From this, I can deduce that dinosaurs were intelligent life forms who knew the metric system and developed a highly advanced technological civilization which evacuated earth before the meteor hit, and are now inhabiting a distant star system.
Another wonderful display of logic, fact finding research with a healthy dose of commonsense. Thank you for the work you put into this brilliant videos.
Great Pyramid built c. 2500 BC Meter length first adopted AD 1791 Seconds first used c. AD 1560 Use of the degrees of latitude (as degrees from the equator) does seem to be pretty ancient. Use of 360 degrees in a circle apparently goes back at least to 2000 BC. And it's not a far stretch to apply it to the earth. You could of course measure the degrees from different things and assume slightly different shapes of the earth. There are also different ancient systems of measurement for it as well. Latitude seems to probably have been eventually popularized by Ptolemy's works so 2nd century AD, as far as I can tell. It does seem that the Pyramid is older than all three systems of measurement used in the claim.
Occam's razor aside, it's simply amazing how numbers can be added, subtracted, divided and multiplied to come up with other numbers! Who knew? It must be magic messages...
Its funny how the alternativ-b Guy and girls us the meter as if it was a divine measurement, i mean its convinient because of the system behind it but ypu could also set/standardize the meter to be 2meters and do all the things we do today perfectly fine. The meter is in the end just a set of rules we gave ourself for convinience and not some kind of a constant or something.
They tried to prove that the Egyptions knew about the Meter because Chile and Easter Island. Never mind that both Puma Puko and Easter Island heads were both constructed thousands of years after the Pyramids. And also, neither were built by the Egyptians.
Keeping the whole thing level and symmetrical, is evidence enough, for highly sophisticated mathematic problem solving. Trigonometry, and advanced geometry for sure. These builders were highly educated beings, that knew exactly what this place was going to look like, before they even broke ground. No one would fund it, on a "maybe". They knew darn well what they were doing, and how it was going to be accomplished. The only parlor trick, is to try trivialize the incredible mathematical precision, involved.
If you really want to understand the mathematics behind the Great Pyramid's dimensions, it is derived geometrically (and all of its internal dimensions as well), and may be constructed on paper by a child, with only a compass and a straightedge (and a pencil). One interesting embedded ratio is among foot-meter-cubit.
Such a clear and precise explanation. The manufacturing of data is a big problem as the use of statistics. Because numbers are objective and they sound indisputable, we need to keep eyes open about how the datas are generated and how they are read because is we’re manipulation can be found. The funny thing is that we just need to scratch the surface … because mostly they are based on the assumption that they will never get checked.. Thanks
I like how he rapidly Gish Gallops through all those numbers. The idea is that the numbers follow each other so quickly that you don't even have time to really register what he's claiming, in the hope that you will go "Wow, that's a lot of numbers, that sounds like he really has an amazing amount of support for his claim." Works best on people who aren't good with numbers in the first place and will tend to go "Ah, math is hard, the guy probably knows what he's talking about." The mere presence of math and numbers means it must be scientifically true in the minds of a lot of people.
It is even worse. When I studied Herodotus to find out about possible mistakes in Plato's Atlantis story (supposed that it is not an invention), I learned that Egypt was not, as many think, a centralized state like France, but that each Egyptian nome had its own measures. The cubit in Memphis was (by definition!) not the same cubit as in Thebes or in Sais. (Source: Friedrich Oertel, Herodots ägyptischer Logos und die Glaubwürdigkeit Herodots, 1970)
What I learned and checked for myself. The side of the Great Pyramid is said to be 440 Cubits. It has an approx length of 756 feet. NOTE the sides of the Great Pyramid are not perfectly equal. 756÷440=1.7 feet...giving an 'Ideal Average' of 20.4 inches for a single Cubit. The accepted Standard Cubit is 18" inches. A Royal Cubit was 20.3 to 20.6" inches....perfectly within the "Ideal Average Cubit" range. In 1859 John Taylor created a 25" inch Cubit. This measurement was taken from a CASING STONE, which are known to greatly vary in length. 1864 Charles Smyth took the INCORRECT proposed 25" inch Cubit, multiplied by 365, divided by 12 to get a total of 360 feet. His deluded conclusion was that the Pyramid had the days of the year built into it. But using the imagined 25" Cubit and multiplying by the KNOWN 440 Cubits and dividing by 12 = 916.6 feet....160 feet longer than the actual Pyramid. Thanks👍
Newton wasn't wrong. His research was further expanded by Kepler who added assentric orbits and eventually expanded by einstein to show fast moving objects. That does not mean newtonian laws are wrong, it just means they needed ellaborating a bit in certain situations.
I saw an interesting show many years ago. A Nova or National Geographic special, I think, where they came to the conclusion that Pi could’ve been baked into some of the measurements in Egypt because they may have been using a wheel to measure distances.
@19:50 "so what?, some people might ask..." yes sir, exactly. Over and over again. Thank you for this work. Good laugh early in the morning, starts the day right.
Yes. When one remembers that back then most who "studied" the pyramids etc. of ancient Egypt were often little more than treasure hunters and jumped up conmen it is not surprising. Very few were people who sought to study things from an objective "academic" viewpoint if you will. That was the age of course of "Eastern mysticism" whereby people sought to reaffirm their religious beliefs or claims of some mystical esotericism based upon these ancient civilizations. Then as now this nonsense was very much a business much the same as those who say sold patent nostrums to rubes from the backs of wagons or touted the supposed benefits of magnetism etc..
The moment someone said that "There's no evidence that the Pyramids is used as a Tomb" as an opening Hypothesis, is the moment I am 100% sure that the person is not arguing with good faith
@@carramrod9119 All evidence points for pyramids being tombs and there are no evidence which would debunk that thesis. So if you wanted to show how ignorant you are, then congratulations.
Thank you for the video! 1. "Exactly the size pi/6" - I am sorry but pi is infinit. 2. "Who else could measure the circumference of Earth?" Ehmm... Eratosthenes 2000 years ago. And why Egyptian could not too (Hell, Babylonians can solve some types of cubic equation)? By why than divide it? And how precise it will be?
We completely skipped how the Egyptians had the forethought to place their civilization in the correct area of the earth such that the pyramid crossed the speed of light latitude. And all before longitude and latitude were created and standardized. Coincidence? ….yes.
The correlation between the speed of light in m/s and the pyramid's location in degrees away from the Equator doesn't involve longitude, only latitude -- dividing a circle (i.e. any Great Circle passing through the poles) into 360 equal-sized units of distance. The polar circumference of the Earth is 40,007.863 kilometers, making 1 degree of latitude equal to 111.1329528 km = 111,132.9528 meters = 111,132,952.8 millimeters. If we were to re-define the Meter so as to have it be EXACTLY 1/40,000,000th of the Earth's polar circumference, then we would have to multiply its current length by 0.999803463 (a more 'meet' unit, so just for fun let's call this slightly smaller unit a 'meeter'). An ideal length of a single degree of latitude would be 40,000/360 = 111,111.111... meeters. By that token, the speed of light (i.e. 299,792,458 meters per second) would equal 299,733,537.9 'meeters' per second -- which assumes, of course that the 'second' remains the same in both systems, being 1/86,400th of a solar day. This would come to a speed-of-light latitude of 29° 58′ 24.07″ N. The actual latitude, according to Google, is 29° 58′ 45″ N = 29.97917°N, which gives us an accuracy of 99.98059916%, which isn't perfect but is still rather impressive, assuming the placement of the Great Pyramid was intended to be in relation to the speed of light in 'meeters' per second. And one might assume that the placement also hinged on the topology of the site, as well as the GP's relation to the other two pyramids at the Giza necropolis -- those of Khafre and Menkaure. We also need to consider that the speed of light within Earth's atmosphere is slightly slower than that in a pure vacuum, being 299,702,547 meters per second, which would equal 299,643,644.4 'meeters' per second, once we adjust for that 40,000-unit subdivision of Earth's 360-degree polar circumference. This would give us a latitude of 29° 57′ 51.71″N = 29.96436444°, which is 99.95061383% accurate (i.e. not as accurate as a speed-of-light in vacuum figure, which is still impressive despite it not being 100% accurate, the Ideal). The range of GP latitudes given in the video is 29.978150 to 29.980150 = 29°58′ 41.34″ N to 29°58′ 48.54″ N, with a mean latitude (i.e. the tip of the pyramidion) at 29.97915° N = 29° 58′ 44.94″ N. That gives an accuracy (using 'meeters' rather than meters) of 99.98066586%. To be absolutely perfect, assuming the Earth's polar circumference were set at 40,000,000 'meeters', i.e. 10,000,000 units from the Equator to the North Pole, then the apex of the Great Pyramid SHOULD be at 29° 58′ 24.07″ N, a distance of 29° 58′ 45″ N minus 29° 58′ 24.07″ N = 00° 00′ 20.93″ = 0.005813888... degrees away from its actual longitude. At 111,132.9528 meters per degree, that gives us a distance of 646.1146407 meters = 2,119.79869 feet. At 111,111.111... ideal 'meeters' per degree, that gives us a distance of 645.9876542 'meeters'. A more accurate latitude is given as 29.9792458° N = 29° 58′ 45.28″ N, a difference of 0.0000758 degrees = 8.423877822 meters. The length of each base is 755.75 feet = 230 meters [i.e. 230.3526 meters, to be precise]. The apex of the Great Pyramid is located 21.21 arc-seconds North of the ideal speed-of-light-in-a-vacuum latitude, a difference of 0.3535 arc-minutes = 0.005891666... arc-degrees = 654.7583136 meters, which is 2.846775276 times the length of its average base/side. Mind you, this 'accuracy' correlating the pyramid's latitude with the speed of light -- an accuracy of 99.98059916% -- is far more accurate than the notion correlating the size of the Earth to the pyramid's perimeter. Multiply an average side-length of 755.75 feet by 4 and we get its perimeter equal to 3,023 feet. An average Great Circle -- i.e. a median between the extremes of the Earth's POLAR and EQUATORIAL circumference -- is 24,881 miles = 131,371,680 feet. It's been said that the pyramid is scaled down by a factor of 43,200 from the Earth's dimensions, and 131,371,680 feet divided by 43,200 = 3,041.0111... feet, and dividing that by 4 gives an average base length of 760.252777... feet, as opposed to the 755.75 feet actual base length, an accuracy of 99.4077262%, which isn't quite as impressive, in my estimation. Ah, but we need to keep in mind that the Earth's equatorial circumference 24,901.461 miles = 131,479,714.1 feet, and the circumference of latitude 29.9792458 (taking the cosine of that number) gives us 0.866206461, and multiplying that by 24,901.461 gives us 21,569.80642 miles = 113,888,577.9 feet. Dividing that by 43,200 gives us a perimeter of 2636.309673 feet, and an average base length of 659.0774184 feet . . . which is off from 755.75 by a factor of 1.146678643, far less accurate than the 99.4077262% in the last paragraph. Phew! Time to put my calculator away and call it a day!
This is an excellent description of what is called the law of large numbers. To those not aware of this law, it seems perfectly amazing that such measurements which can be found in an artifact such as the Great Pyramid can correspond with precision to multiple other impressive calculations. So someone making this argument might say “Oh, the base of the pyramid is equal to some multiple of the distance to the moon. Amazing, and almost convincing. But, the exact same calculation can be derived from any humble object, say a common street bus. When put like that, no one is nearly as impressed. Good work Dr Miagino.
12:05 into the video: As a mathematician, I might have a small correction for you here. If you make the area of the sides of the pyramid equal to the area of the height of the pyramid squared, as Herodotus described, the exact number you get is.....not pi, or a multiple of pi. But...it is related to drumroll...the golden ratio. Well...sorta. The number you actually get is sqrt(phi)/2, where phi is the golden ratio. 280/440 simplifies down to 7/11, which is 0.63636. 2/pi is 0.63662 The actual ratio is 0.63601 (a.k.a. sqrt(phi)/2) -- if you build the pyramid perfectly as Herodotus described You might notice that 280/440 is actually a better approximation of the desired ratio than 2/pi is--I guess the Egyptians were very accurate.. So if you make a pyramid where the area of the triangles on the side equals the height, you do actually find a number which is...loosely related to the golden ratio. Doesn't have the properties of the golden ratio that get people all excited, but the golden ratio does show up as part of the equation. No particular relationship to pi, though. At least not from building a pyramid whose side areas was equal to a square of the height of the pyramid. 7/11 happens to be a very good approximation of sqrt(phi)/2, and 11/7 happens to be very good approximation to pi/2. Interesting coincidence. My guess is that the Egyptians were approximating sqrt(phi)/2 to achieve the area ratio they wanted, and were not trying to approximate pi. Especially if they thought pi was 3.16 (since there's more accurate fractions for approximating 3.16. 19/6, for example).
Bravo. Not believing that the Ancient Egyptians had effectively squared the circle I spent an hour working the precise ratio out using high school maths from 50 years ago and was delighted to find phi hidden in there instead. Only then did I think of looking to see if anyone else had spotted the mistake. And you had. I suppose flexing you mental muscles can't do any harm at my age. So not an hour completely wasted.😂
This has the vibes of “subtract your age from the current year and you’ll get the year you were born in!!” Sure if I multiply random numbers by a random measurement I’m sure to eventually find an Important Number
Great video. And I totally agree, you can basically find any number in such a gigantic building to support your theorie. I am sure you can also find E=mc2 lol But are there, according to you, any mathematical or astrological connection that does stand ground and shows level of hi intelligence? What about the piramid is aligned with true north? I mean we don't need to over romantasize this fact and make it more epic then it should be. But to me, this sounds still pretty impressive. So are there any other things like this that you find pretty impressive?
Yes, I think it is impressive that they were able to do that. There has been some speculation that they may have used the Big Dipper and Little Dipper to do it.
@@zyveetorre1242 literally any decently sized building, anywhere on the planet Hell, many of these ideas don’t _even_ rise to the status of being coincidences.
The best way that I can compare finding your channel and learning all this info is by using the allegory of the cave. All I saw was the shadows and didn’t realize they weren’t real but now I know that what lies beyond the cave is what’s real and will definitely exercise more caution when charlatans come spouting the answers to ancient “mysteries”
Professor Miano, have you heard of Garrett Ryan over at the channel Toldinstone? He's also a great educator of ancient history like you, and I just started reading his book "Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants." It's fabulous. I think it would be a great book review for your book series! Also, I'm sure you two could have a stellar collaboration. 🤙🏻
Thanks professor you make a great point in this video that all people interested in ancient history should note. Maths is maths and history including architectural history is quite different. Sure, maths was used but unless it's stuff we don't know today it's still maths. Now if the program being critiqued could actually show that the Egyptian set out to symbolically represent the earth then the debunk you have done on the accuracy of their calculations would be irrelevant, since what they achieved was so close to the reality and leaving us with another proof of some kind of great astronomy that understood a global world map 4000BCE and set out to incorporate it visually into this architecture ( whatever other main purpose it had). Nice one!
We need these videos. So many people are fooled by this. One thing struck me as funny. He begins by saying "Nothing, absolutely nothing proves that it's a tomb, and at 20 minutes into your video he states that this pyramid is the most enigmatic tomb ever built on the planet.🤔 So, which is it?
The Egyptian definitely did know about pi. I'm not sure about the "golden ratio", since that term comes from the Greeks, but they definitely knew pi and aproximated it to 22/7.
I read a book a few decades ago where the author derived all of these constants from the post box on their road ;) I really wish I could remember what it was as it elegantly shows how easy it is to find these ratios in pretty much anything. Particularly when you don't have any limit on the number of measurements you make and the mathematical procedures you do to them.
I remember reading a French Pseudo-History or ancient alien theory book and was quite impressed. I was twelve. I did not know any better. I cringe now thinking about it. Still, it was only one book, and I received little support for these views outside of the book. Today... there is so much of this information available, I wonder what I would have done. Jeep up the good work. Why did many of these theories originate in France anyway?
Not to dis the French as there are French academics who do quality work = but what you noted is true. A lot of pseudoscientific trash seems to originate from French sources - and Russian as well coincidentally. 🤷
I suppose I’m one of the “crazy’s”! Maybe a conspiracy believer in one way or another. When I find something intriguing, that I don’t completely understand it fascinates me and it normally consumes me and any free time I have. At this point 2-3 weeks in, basically binge watching and reading any articles trying to find some fallacies. And one part (of many) that seems like a stretch is the math used, it seems to be Trying to find a way to a pre determined conclusion. Though you seem to focus on the same. You use the absolute worst math/measurements observations made by the other side. With all that being said, I’m glad you made this video, to be honest this isn’t as convincing as I hoped it would be. Just like like my feelings about the conspiracies math/measurements conclusions. I will say I am impressed with your videos and the work you put into them. You are an extremely talented individual and will probably end up watching every video on your channel and all your hard work will not go unnoticed, and I will attempt to listen to all of your theories and points with the open mind to the best of my ability. As I have been trying to with other videos, and ideas! Thank you for the videos and thank you if you made it this far in this comment. Haha
What you mean they did a survey in 2015 by glend dash the most modern which did estimations on the orginal dimension of the pyramid orginally built with the casing stone
I had to stop this on 9:41. I think i have heard every mathematical and geometric equation known to humankind associated with the great pyramid. x it by this, divide it by that, pi, the golden ratio, and yes, even the metre. All related to the earths measurements. Well, give me a dinning room table and i could pull all kinds of equations out of it if i try hard enough and use the same logic.
I thought about stopping around that same time for the same exact reason. Even though the whole video is a bit of blur already, I think the second part is well worth the watch. He really starts to go off on the absurdities of the whole thing there.
@@MarkVrem Thanks for your reply. Did you know that if you x the length of an iPhone 11 (15.5 cm) by 2,585 you get the circumference of the Earth ? (give or take a few kilometers). I think i might be onto something here 😉😉
Yeah but your not gonna get pi and their basic ratio between the base and height just baisc gemotery. And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept . ADRIAN TUESTA 101 ADRIAN TUESTA 101 2 days ago To note this are just basic ratio like the perimeter divided by the height its not like I am multiplying random stuff
I can find interesting arithmetic outputs in everything. First, I determine what result I want, then, I go about selecting the exact variables and magnitudes as inputs to my carefully selected function, to produce the desired output.
Not really. I would be like a Trekkie trying to debate an astrophysicist about planetary orbital dynamics. Carlson is an internet fraud much as those who peddle "alternative" nonsense are = so what is there then to debate. One does not give obvious grifters the publicity they so desperately crave by further raising awareness of them via debates. Any useful information being imparted must be balanced again the risk of lending legitimacy to those who do not deserve it. You expose frauds = you do not debate them.
As a curiuos mind,who dwelled pretty deep unto the lost ancient civilization line of thought,im really thankful that i found this channel,i think this helped me back to te "right" path.
This channel is run by an idiot who knows absolutely nothing about African history..
Don’t go to white men for African history
Good for you! Wish all could watch this and see the Ben’s of the world are false prophets.
A curious mind ask questions. A conspiracy theorists ask them rhetorically. Good for you for being the former.
Me too! 👍
When 'Chariots of the Gods' appeared around 50 years ago, I was blown away at the astounding revelations contained therein. I was just as blown away when various debunkers shot the whole thing down with utterly convincing facts. A lesson was learned.
Thank you, David, for remaining vigilant.
I've been following the work of Graham Hancock for over 20 years and was a firm believer in his hypothesis and the similar one of other authors. I have spent the last 2 weeks binge watching your videos on the subject of ancient civilizations and I have had a sort of epiphany. I realise I suspended my disbelief even though I'm a science teacher. I was drawn into the allure of the mystery of it all. Your videos lifted the veil on my eyes. Yesterday I sold all of my Hancock and similar books. In a way, I feel a sense of loss, but the realization that I was suckered into yet another conspiracy theory is liberating. Thank you for what you do!
Wow. I am happy you found my videos of value!
Hancock is a quack
GH is a grade 1 charlatan. I too fell into this rabbit hole and I found the light.
@@aldi235 Agree, GH is making lots of money filling peoples heads with untruth.
Dont believe big archeology!!! They are hiding the fact that the earth ended in 2012!!! Paul Sifki told me So
Oh man, these debunks are always so awesome.
I went to that “BAM” channel once and recommended your channel as a source. Yeah, that comment was deleted. They know who you are! Great job, David!
Comment on someone else's comment and they will have to delete their comment to delete yours...I think!?!
@@claudiaxander LOL Worth a try.
@@claudiaxander No, I just commented on one of their videos. I said “hey you should check the WOA channel with Dr Miano, he’s a smart guy.”
And they obviously didn’t like it. I was hoping to be cursed out in French but that didn’t happen either.
They didn't know that bulls from the serapeum were in the louve museum in France. Great research guys.
@@AdvancedLiving Wow they are touchy! I had a Gobekli tepe star chart guy lose the plot on his own channel but didn't know how to delete me as I posted under his own comment! Lol
That little bit about Flinders Petrie catching someone filing down a stone to fit his theories is the perfect analogy for Hancockians. "Don't be that guy." 😄
So glad to see you continuing this series! Those debunking videos are my favourite content of yours. Not only is it satisfying to see you taking the arrogant peddlers of pseudoscience down a notch but one also always learns a lot from your videos.
I found you through your collab with Trey and have watched every single one of the Myths videos since then and quite a lot of the other ones as well. Really hope your channel will soon get the huge audience it deserves. Maybe some other collabs with bigger channels might help?
Thanks! I am glad you are enjoying the content.
And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept .
To note this are just basic ratio like the perimeter divided by the height its not like I am multiplying random stuff
I know your vidoe you acknowdlge that the epgytians might have known pi and golden ratio which is not that hard to belive since the anicent greeks did too alot of the greek philopsheres studied in egypt to learn from the egyptians
@@WorldofAntiquity The debunkers, never build anything. Why is that? They will tell you how they do it, but where is the evidence? Lets see someone stack stones, and tile tunnels with granite blocks. Where are the debunkers, when the rubber hits the road? No where.
I want to thank you for these videos. They have helped me get a few friends to question their beliefs when it comes to ancient history. Especially when it comes to Graham Hancock.
Don’t mean to over comment, BUT, I did hear these words come out of Graham Hancock’s mouth: “the metric system was re-discovered…”
Wow, that makes things incredibly convenient.
Lol, not surprising.
Hancock is a liar and a conman.
The Metric system is a human INVENTION. Therefore it cannot be discovered.
The difference between invention and discovery is profound, and Hancock knows the difference, and yet he conflates the two concepts in order to deceive gullible and ignorant people.
@@Chris.Davies The metric system is a system that utilizes water at it's base point. 100 mm x100mm x100mm box can hold 1litre of water and it weighs 1 kilo. Egyptian methods of measurement in fact were the exact same: "To conclude, the ancient Egyptian 1 royal cubit to ½ hekat relation in a sphere is no less sophisticated than the modern 10 cm3 to 1 liter relation expressed in a cube. This wisdom of sphere-based relationship, which was inherent and possibly unique to Egypt and its cultural sphere of influence, was lost over the ages." The title of the scientific paper is "An Ancient Relation between Units of Length and Volume Based on a Sphere". by Elena Zapassky, Yuval Gadot, Israel Finkelstein, and Itzhak Benenson.
He’s a good storyteller. That’s it
@@sandman8993 he’s ripping off Lovecraft in a lot of stuff. “The Doom that Came to Sarnath”, “The Nameless City”, “The Whisperer in Darkness”, and “At the Mountains of Madness” all touch on things Hancock talks about.
I love how they get 9 decimal accuracy despite nobody knowing exactly where any of the edges were. And even if they were all still there and all razor sharp and all perfectly straight, thermal expansion alone would make 9 decimal point accuracy impossible.
"These films tread old ground." Nice archaeology pun.
I wish I’d had a history teacher like you. Your clearly a very highly intelligent guy. Keep up this fantastic work 👍🏼
Thanks! 😃
Thank you. You are the first American youtuber, or english speaker for that matter , that pronounced "pi" and "fi" correctly .
11:00 Dave, I've got a PhD in math. Not only would I not be surprised to learn the Egyptians knew about π and φ, even if they didn't know about it, it would be mundane to find these numbers coincidentally associated with just about anything, and requiring less numerological mashup that to find other coincidences. The reason why π, φ, e, and other numbers are significant numbers is precisely *because* they show up so frequently in so many contexts.
It's like being surprised at finding the number 1 associated with the pyramid. 1 is the multiplicative identity, one of the most significant numbers there is (probably the second most significant after 0). Lo and behold, there is 1 great pyramid. Astounding! 2 is the smallest prime and also a significant number, and when you stand at a corner of a pyramid you can see 2 sides! The number 4 has special significance in abstract algebra (in ways too technical to go into here, but it sticks out like a sore thumb) and incredibly there are 4 sides to the pyramids.
Finding other significant numbers such as π and φ is not really any more incredible than finding these.
Humans are endowed with "pattern recognition" - likely as a result of our evolution. Had our progenitors not learned to discern between the brush and the predator hiding in the brush = we would not be here. So even children learn by "association" and over the course of their lives will learn to pick out recognizable patterns to associate things with them - as Pi etc. represent. Trial & Error and applying patterns we see in nature is actually behind a lot of things we now take for granted.
I would also expect pi to show up in MOST buildings of the time period, because using a wheel with a paint mark on it would've been super easy to do to mark out where construction is being done, and any time you used a tool like that, you'd end up with a structure whose base is easily divisible by pi, right?
@@adamthaxton3157 Yes, but it's worse (better?) than that. You don't need a circle. Anything with cycles or repetition or certain types of symmetry is enough to hide pi just a little under the surface.
Nice demonstration! :)
Furthermore, 4 is pronounced "shi" in Japanese, which is a homonym for "death", it's a similar story in Chinese. That's why that number is taboo and often replaced and some hotels don't have 4th floor. IT COULD NOT BE A COINCIDENCE THAT PYRAMID NOT ONLY HAS 4 ANGLES BUT ALSO 4 SIDES! Only one explanation: aliens.
Another great video! I'll just add that not only did the Egyptians not have meters, they also didn't measure time in seconds! The second was first put forward as a measurement of time in the 11th century CE (about 3.5 millennia after the great pyramid was built) by the Persian scholar Al-Bīrūnī, and it wouldn't gain widespread adoption until centuries later. So the assumption that the Egyptians were trying to communicate the speed of light in m/s using latitude when they didn't use meters, seconds, or latitude as measurements is laughable. Keep up the great work.
I think the debunk videos you make, are the most important ones. People use UA-cam for knowledge today, and "mysteries" based on science fiction, hear say and confirmation bias are all over the place. They get million of views. And the result? Allot of people actually thinks "science" is a group of people that is just about smart enough to open a box of beans.
The trend is not positive for humanity, and I hope good content creators like you are able to turn it around with time. I know it takes allot of time. Thanks.
I agree, there is so much ancient history nonsense on the internet. I see the tide turning slowly but surely though. Academic content is notoriously difficult to get views and subs on UA-cam. World Of Antiquity is pushing nearly 20k subs now, quite an achievement. Lets be honest, if you want 20,000 views in a week, all you have to do is put the words "alien" and "pyramid" in a thumbnail. Massive respect to WOA for their integrity.
Same here, I hope this and other channels like cosmic queries will keep growing.
You are all sheep… this man knows nothing about ancient Egypt he hasn’t even talked to ancient Egyptians
@@TimesUhave2BA_radicalintellect nobody has talked to ancient egyptians the last thousands of years. Stay of the drugs.
A lot. Not sure what "allot" is supposed to be.
At the precise moment I write this comment, there are 59 comments, 186 likes and 3 dislikes. If you multiply 59 with 186 and divide the sum by 3 you get 3658. Exactly, 365, the number of days in the year, very precisely! Plus 8. But 8 + 4 is 12, yes, the number of months in a year. Then why 4 would the mainstream historians ask? Well, there are 4 letters in the name Giza, AND in the English word year, and that can't be a coincidence. But wait, there's more: 3658 divided by 4 gives us a very precise number of 914.5. And as everyone knows, the palakulakulaghinst-yohiyohiho, the unit for measurement used by the famous builders of the the Tabac-PMU at Castelnau-Barbarens, France, is exactly 914.5 meters. Now isn't that enlightening?
Thank you for this video. Those numerological deliriums are so embarrassing...
Haha well illustrated!
Though done in jest, its at least as credible as any of that guff being dissected by David (not me, the important one making the debunking video). Whenever I listen to it I ca't help thinking of the cartoon character Grassy Knollington. from the Viz comic...
As you pointed out a Ratio does not depend on the unit of measurement. if you measure in "temple inches" or "road kill rabbits " the ratio is the same.
I remember some guy saying that the length of each side of the pyramid was an exact ratio of Pi. I told him that the Egyptians did not have ways of measuring long distances except by using a wheel rolling along the ground and counting each rotation of the wheel, therefore creating a distance with a multiplier of Pi.
Wow! Very informative video, I always thought how much of an absolutely amazing coincidence it was that these numbers all came together in the pyramids and have never seen anyone really counter argue it, this really makes things make sense! Thank you for all this information!
And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept .
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To note this are just basic ratio like the perimeter divided by the height its not like I am multiplying random stuff
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Formatting, comrade.
Your giant wall of unreadable run-on sentences doesn’t help you make… _whatever_ point you think you’re making.
@@joearnold6881 dont why you bother to read it
@@adriantuesta1012 friend…
_nobody_ has bothered to read that, not for more than a few of what *should* be sentences. (But aren’t)
I’m trying to help you.
If you want to make a point, you want to make it legible. That wall you wrote was not legible and made no point.
This isn’t a personal attack.
@@joearnold6881 Point is learn trigonomtery
If you take the height of the Great Pyramid (138 m) and multiply it by my height (1.8 m) you get to the number 248,4. This is clearly a reference to Cantate 284/4 of the Weihnachts-Oratorium by J.S. Bach. Perhaps I too, should start a UA-cam channel to reveal this startling truth, as it is clearly more evidence of an Advanced Ancient Culture!
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On the note of the pronunciations of π and φ, I've found that English speakers often turn what we would call "short" vowels in Greek or Latin into "long" vowels out of convention. Diphthongs really. I think a few Greek terms we've adopted and kept more or less in their original form have ended up experiencing the vowels shifting with the rest of the English language and as such it became intuitive for us to read those things that way.
When I first noticed we pronounce literally every classical Greco-Roman word 'wrong' for no real reason it kind of annoyed me, but that's just how things shook out.
On a long journey, this is JUST what I needed. Keep it up David!
the meter argument reminds me of the whole 'royale with cheese' scene from pulp fiction ))
I wish people would stop saying we don't know who built the Great Pyramid. We literally have written documentation of its construction. We even know what they called it: "Akhet Khufu".
I can’t believe I just found this channel what a gem I think I’m your new biggest fan! It’s been hours and it’s video after video I’m not bored yet.
Thanks, and welcome!
I really enjoy your debunking videos. Thanks for your hard work.
Me too 🤓
Me 3.14159
Very well done. Pyramidology detracts from the real engineering skills that the builders possessed. Many thanks, Jake D., Civil Engineer, ten years experience in Egypt.
I love your debunking videos, people like you have greatly surpassed most of their actual produced for tv equivalents.
Aw thanks!
I used your videos in a lot of conversations. Appreciate so much your work. Subscribed, liked and fan of your videos.
Thank you!
Thank you very much for your videos. I was deep on the alternative history rabbit hole, but everything seems to make sense now and it's so much more fascinating!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video despite being very into a lot of GH's ideas. I feel like videos like this are a step in the right direction but we shouldnt be so quick to burn the books or discount larger ideas, but rather challenge them to be held to a higher standard. The reality is we dont know how old the pyramids are and what knowledge they are beholdent to. Challenging the archaeological dogma is just as important as challening the out there ideas! The more people who are interested in this topic the more minds we have go get to the bottom of this magnificent mystery that is our past.
Thank you 😁
This means the Americans have been avoiding adopting the metric system way longer than we thought.
A long time ago in Egypt....
Government official: Hey guys. My boss wants us to cut and stack big pieces of stone. We plan to cut the stones so that they point twords the sun. Anyone interested?
General public: I don't know man. What's in it for me?
Government official: Hmmm.... How about lots of beer and food?
General public: Sounds tempting. Throw in some makeup and we will help.
They also grew a lot of Opium. That will help with any aches. I don't know enough about the subject thought. It is obviously a grey area of history. But if it were to educate modern humans how they could be easily manipulated by their vices. Then it might be one actually worth exploring. One day.
Thank you for your wonderful segments, they are all so interesting and thought provoking.
There is NO "special mathematical formula" in a pyramid. People are doing what we always do, see patterns, relationships and assuming way too much from simple observation and repetition...
Bingo! It is the basis of statistical fallacies. People after the fact ascribing all manner of purported "correlations" to something. Where they always fail however is to articulate evidence to demonstrate the creators in question:
1 - knew of the concept.
2 - intended to employ it as claimed.
3 - further do we see it employed in other things as well.
Moral of the story: to claim a thing ------> base what you claim solely upon said thing --------> while lacking above = risks becoming circular reasoning. You can not claim the pyramids represent "X" - when all rest of the evidence points to "Y" - to then use the pyramid of justification of the same "X" claim as ultimately all you have is your willingness to believe what you claim.
So as my post a while back showed if you played with Super Bowl scores enough you could probably come up with some fantastical correlation the Great Pyramid supposedly represents............. = but that does not make it so.
In Statistics, you have to comply to certain confidence intervals to make a statement.
Most of these ancient conspiracy theories would be vastly less than 1 sigma probably lol. More like the inverse of 5 sigma than 5 sigma lol.
Figures don't lie, but liers always figure.
as always this was great! thanks for your time and content.
Dr Miano with another homerun! Answered a lot of my questions regarding the pyramid math. No other channel challenges the ancient history fallacies like this one, great work
I feel like we all owe you a beer (or drink of your choice) for siting through all these videos with mental and mathematic gymnastics to make these videos for us.
Ah, yess, Numerology, ever since "Illuminatus!" I see 5s and 23s everywhere, for example the damn pyramid! :-D
love your channel
This is like the 6video i watched and yeah wow.good work man,i trust you more then videos i seen till now.Im open minded on evrything, but i like how you can explain all things
As someone who’s been inside the pyramids, the idea that they could be used as anything but a tomb is laughable. The actual rooms inside are about the size of a stunted peanut shell.
Yes. "Size" is an oft overlooked variable vis a vis the use of granite. The King's Chamber and adjoining portcullis chamber is not very large really. Further its largest components - the relieving slabs above the chamber - are little more than rectangular-ish crude chunks of granite. So they hammered them out "just enough" to make them fit without worrying about what they looked like as no one was expected to see them.
This undermines the purported "precision" argument as it shows they were only precise in matters where something was expected to be seen. It therefore is not implausible that the outward sides of the blocks of the chamber below may not have even been finished/polished as the inward face was to save time and effort.
Finally the fact that it contains a sarcophagus as other tombs also contained - though its broken lid and side chunks were cleared out years ago when the chamber was renovated in the early 90's to make it safer for tourism = proves it was a tomb. (Look at old photos of the chamber pre-restoration to see broken wall/floor/lid chunks strewn about which were subsequently repaired) Add to this the reality that the pyramid is in a necropolis situated on the west bank of the Nile - the "land of the dead" in the Egyptian religion - and any other rationalization save for a tomb becomes ludacris on its face. 🤔
Thank you! I am so glad somebody finally exposed all the playing with numbers, (and quantities), that mathematicians love to occupy themselves with.
This is such a relief. Thank you so much for this great video. There is a point I wanted to transfer/say to people so much but didn't really know how to say it,
and I am glad I found that you mentioned it. The part where you explain it could simply be a byproduct of the construction 12:00 ❤️It also added to my knowledge. Truly great video Thx so much.
There were dinosaurs which measured from tip of the nose to tip of the tail approximately exactly a meter. From this, I can deduce that dinosaurs were intelligent life forms who knew the metric system and developed a highly advanced technological civilization which evacuated earth before the meteor hit, and are now inhabiting a distant star system.
Another wonderful display of logic, fact finding research with a healthy dose of commonsense. Thank you for the work you put into this brilliant videos.
I second that, David has a wonderful way of bringing things back down to earth using killer citation and rational thinking.
I like the new intro and, as always, the content is fabulous.
Great Pyramid built c. 2500 BC
Meter length first adopted AD 1791
Seconds first used c. AD 1560
Use of the degrees of latitude (as degrees from the equator) does seem to be pretty ancient. Use of 360 degrees in a circle apparently goes back at least to 2000 BC. And it's not a far stretch to apply it to the earth. You could of course measure the degrees from different things and assume slightly different shapes of the earth. There are also different ancient systems of measurement for it as well. Latitude seems to probably have been eventually popularized by Ptolemy's works so 2nd century AD, as far as I can tell.
It does seem that the Pyramid is older than all three systems of measurement used in the claim.
Occam's razor aside, it's simply amazing how numbers can be added, subtracted, divided and multiplied to come up with other numbers! Who knew? It must be magic messages...
These videos have improved over time. Decent content 👌
Dr. Miano, That was Fun!
I hope you don't mind me saying you do a great job putting this all into prospective!!!
Thanks for sharing!!!
Its funny how the alternativ-b
Guy and girls us the meter as if it was a divine measurement, i mean its convinient because of the system behind it but ypu could also set/standardize the meter to be 2meters and do all the things we do today perfectly fine. The meter is in the end just a set of rules we gave ourself for convinience and not some kind of a constant or something.
They tried to prove that the Egyptions knew about the Meter because Chile and Easter Island. Never mind that both Puma Puko and Easter Island heads were both constructed thousands of years after the Pyramids. And also, neither were built by the Egyptians.
Keeping the whole thing level and symmetrical, is evidence enough, for highly sophisticated mathematic problem solving. Trigonometry, and advanced geometry for sure. These builders were highly educated beings, that knew exactly what this place was going to look like, before they even broke ground. No one would fund it, on a "maybe". They knew darn well what they were doing, and how it was going to be accomplished. The only parlor trick, is to try trivialize the incredible mathematical precision, involved.
If you really want to understand the mathematics behind the Great Pyramid's dimensions, it is derived geometrically (and all of its internal dimensions as well), and may be constructed on paper by a child, with only a compass and a straightedge (and a pencil). One interesting embedded ratio is among foot-meter-cubit.
This is a valuable video. Should be shown in every American high school.
Such a clear and precise explanation. The manufacturing of data is a big problem as the use of statistics. Because numbers are objective and they sound indisputable, we need to keep eyes open about how the datas are generated and how they are read because is we’re manipulation can be found. The funny thing is that we just need to scratch the surface … because mostly they are based on the assumption that they will never get checked.. Thanks
I like how he rapidly Gish Gallops through all those numbers. The idea is that the numbers follow each other so quickly that you don't even have time to really register what he's claiming, in the hope that you will go "Wow, that's a lot of numbers, that sounds like he really has an amazing amount of support for his claim."
Works best on people who aren't good with numbers in the first place and will tend to go "Ah, math is hard, the guy probably knows what he's talking about." The mere presence of math and numbers means it must be scientifically true in the minds of a lot of people.
It is even worse. When I studied Herodotus to find out about possible mistakes in Plato's Atlantis story (supposed that it is not an invention), I learned that Egypt was not, as many think, a centralized state like France, but that each Egyptian nome had its own measures. The cubit in Memphis was (by definition!) not the same cubit as in Thebes or in Sais. (Source: Friedrich Oertel, Herodots ägyptischer Logos und die Glaubwürdigkeit Herodots, 1970)
Oh no!!!! The world, no, the entire cosmos, as we know it has ceased to exist! Horrors! /s
What I learned and checked for myself.
The side of the Great Pyramid is said to be 440 Cubits.
It has an approx length of 756 feet.
NOTE the sides of the Great Pyramid are not perfectly equal.
756÷440=1.7 feet...giving an 'Ideal Average' of 20.4 inches for a single Cubit.
The accepted Standard Cubit is 18" inches.
A Royal Cubit was 20.3 to 20.6" inches....perfectly within the "Ideal Average Cubit" range.
In 1859 John Taylor created a 25" inch Cubit.
This measurement was taken from a CASING STONE, which are known to greatly vary in length.
1864 Charles Smyth took the INCORRECT proposed 25" inch Cubit, multiplied by 365, divided by 12 to get a total of 360 feet.
His deluded conclusion was that the Pyramid had the days of the year built into it.
But using the imagined 25" Cubit and multiplying by the KNOWN 440 Cubits and dividing by 12 = 916.6 feet....160 feet longer than the actual Pyramid.
Thanks👍
Newton wasn't wrong. His research was further expanded by Kepler who added assentric orbits and eventually expanded by einstein to show fast moving objects. That does not mean newtonian laws are wrong, it just means they needed ellaborating a bit in certain situations.
I saw an interesting show many years ago. A Nova or National Geographic special, I think, where they came to the conclusion that Pi could’ve been baked into some of the measurements in Egypt because they may have been using a wheel to measure distances.
@19:50 "so what?, some people might ask..." yes sir, exactly. Over and over again. Thank you for this work. Good laugh early in the morning, starts the day right.
Great video, as usual!
I never heard that Flinders Petrie story you mention at the end. Nothing would surprise me.
Yes. When one remembers that back then most who "studied" the pyramids etc. of ancient Egypt were often little more than treasure hunters and jumped up conmen it is not surprising. Very few were people who sought to study things from an objective "academic" viewpoint if you will.
That was the age of course of "Eastern mysticism" whereby people sought to reaffirm their religious beliefs or claims of some mystical esotericism based upon these ancient civilizations. Then as now this nonsense was very much a business much the same as those who say sold patent nostrums to rubes from the backs of wagons or touted the supposed benefits of magnetism etc..
The moment someone said that "There's no evidence that the Pyramids is used as a Tomb" as an opening Hypothesis, is the moment I am 100% sure that the person is not arguing with good faith
I feel the same way about people who say they were 100% tombs with no room for debate
@@carramrod9119 All evidence points for pyramids being tombs and there are no evidence which would debunk that thesis.
So if you wanted to show how ignorant you are, then congratulations.
Not only did the metre not exist, but the coordinate system of latitude and longitude also post dates the pyramid.
Thank you for the video!
1. "Exactly the size pi/6" - I am sorry but pi is infinit.
2. "Who else could measure the circumference of Earth?" Ehmm... Eratosthenes 2000 years ago. And why Egyptian could not too (Hell, Babylonians can solve some types of cubic equation)? By why than divide it? And how precise it will be?
We completely skipped how the Egyptians had the forethought to place their civilization in the correct area of the earth such that the pyramid crossed the speed of light latitude. And all before longitude and latitude were created and standardized. Coincidence? ….yes.
Skipped? 6:22
@@sfjarhead4062 yes. Skipped.
He’s pointing out yet another absurdity, one that wasn’t mentioned.
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It's mentioned at 6:22
The correlation between the speed of light in m/s and the pyramid's location in degrees away from the Equator doesn't involve longitude, only latitude -- dividing a circle (i.e. any Great Circle passing through the poles) into 360 equal-sized units of distance. The polar circumference of the Earth is 40,007.863 kilometers, making 1 degree of latitude equal to 111.1329528 km = 111,132.9528 meters = 111,132,952.8 millimeters. If we were to re-define the Meter so as to have it be EXACTLY 1/40,000,000th of the Earth's polar circumference, then we would have to multiply its current length by 0.999803463 (a more 'meet' unit, so just for fun let's call this slightly smaller unit a 'meeter'). An ideal length of a single degree of latitude would be 40,000/360 = 111,111.111... meeters.
By that token, the speed of light (i.e. 299,792,458 meters per second) would equal 299,733,537.9 'meeters' per second -- which assumes, of course that the 'second' remains the same in both systems, being 1/86,400th of a solar day. This would come to a speed-of-light latitude of 29° 58′ 24.07″ N. The actual latitude, according to Google, is 29° 58′ 45″ N = 29.97917°N, which gives us an accuracy of 99.98059916%, which isn't perfect but is still rather impressive, assuming the placement of the Great Pyramid was intended to be in relation to the speed of light in 'meeters' per second. And one might assume that the placement also hinged on the topology of the site, as well as the GP's relation to the other two pyramids at the Giza necropolis -- those of Khafre and Menkaure.
We also need to consider that the speed of light within Earth's atmosphere is slightly slower than that in a pure vacuum, being 299,702,547 meters per second, which would equal 299,643,644.4 'meeters' per second, once we adjust for that 40,000-unit subdivision of Earth's 360-degree polar circumference. This would give us a latitude of 29° 57′ 51.71″N = 29.96436444°, which is 99.95061383% accurate (i.e. not as accurate as a speed-of-light in vacuum figure, which is still impressive despite it not being 100% accurate, the Ideal).
The range of GP latitudes given in the video is 29.978150 to 29.980150 = 29°58′ 41.34″ N to 29°58′ 48.54″ N, with a mean latitude (i.e. the tip of the pyramidion) at 29.97915° N = 29° 58′ 44.94″ N. That gives an accuracy (using 'meeters' rather than meters) of 99.98066586%. To be absolutely perfect, assuming the Earth's polar circumference were set at 40,000,000 'meeters', i.e. 10,000,000 units from the Equator to the North Pole, then the apex of the Great Pyramid SHOULD be at 29° 58′ 24.07″ N, a distance of 29° 58′ 45″ N minus 29° 58′ 24.07″ N = 00° 00′ 20.93″ = 0.005813888... degrees away from its actual longitude. At 111,132.9528 meters per degree, that gives us a distance of 646.1146407 meters = 2,119.79869 feet. At 111,111.111... ideal 'meeters' per degree, that gives us a distance of 645.9876542 'meeters'.
A more accurate latitude is given as 29.9792458° N = 29° 58′ 45.28″ N, a difference of 0.0000758 degrees = 8.423877822 meters. The length of each base is 755.75 feet = 230 meters [i.e. 230.3526 meters, to be precise]. The apex of the Great Pyramid is located 21.21 arc-seconds North of the ideal speed-of-light-in-a-vacuum latitude, a difference of 0.3535 arc-minutes = 0.005891666... arc-degrees = 654.7583136 meters, which is 2.846775276 times the length of its average base/side.
Mind you, this 'accuracy' correlating the pyramid's latitude with the speed of light -- an accuracy of 99.98059916% -- is far more accurate than the notion correlating the size of the Earth to the pyramid's perimeter. Multiply an average side-length of 755.75 feet by 4 and we get its perimeter equal to 3,023 feet. An average Great Circle -- i.e. a median between the extremes of the Earth's POLAR and EQUATORIAL circumference -- is 24,881 miles = 131,371,680 feet. It's been said that the pyramid is scaled down by a factor of 43,200 from the Earth's dimensions, and 131,371,680 feet divided by 43,200 = 3,041.0111... feet, and dividing that by 4 gives an average base length of 760.252777... feet, as opposed to the 755.75 feet actual base length, an accuracy of 99.4077262%, which isn't quite as impressive, in my estimation.
Ah, but we need to keep in mind that the Earth's equatorial circumference 24,901.461 miles = 131,479,714.1 feet, and the circumference of latitude 29.9792458 (taking the cosine of that number) gives us 0.866206461, and multiplying that by 24,901.461 gives us 21,569.80642 miles = 113,888,577.9 feet. Dividing that by 43,200 gives us a perimeter of 2636.309673 feet, and an average base length of 659.0774184 feet . . . which is off from 755.75 by a factor of 1.146678643, far less accurate than the 99.4077262% in the last paragraph.
Phew! Time to put my calculator away and call it a day!
This is an excellent description of what is called the law of large numbers. To those not aware of this law, it seems perfectly amazing that such measurements which can be found in an artifact such as the Great Pyramid can correspond with precision to multiple other impressive calculations. So someone making this argument might say “Oh, the base of the pyramid is equal to some multiple of the distance to the moon. Amazing, and almost convincing. But, the exact same calculation can be derived from any humble object, say a common street bus. When put like that, no one is nearly as impressed. Good work Dr Miagino.
Street buses came from the _moon??_
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12:05 into the video:
As a mathematician, I might have a small correction for you here.
If you make the area of the sides of the pyramid equal to the area of the height of the pyramid squared, as Herodotus described, the exact number you get is.....not pi, or a multiple of pi. But...it is related to drumroll...the golden ratio. Well...sorta.
The number you actually get is sqrt(phi)/2, where phi is the golden ratio.
280/440 simplifies down to 7/11, which is 0.63636.
2/pi is 0.63662
The actual ratio is 0.63601 (a.k.a. sqrt(phi)/2) -- if you build the pyramid perfectly as Herodotus described
You might notice that 280/440 is actually a better approximation of the desired ratio than 2/pi is--I guess the Egyptians were very accurate..
So if you make a pyramid where the area of the triangles on the side equals the height, you do actually find a number which is...loosely related to the golden ratio. Doesn't have the properties of the golden ratio that get people all excited, but the golden ratio does show up as part of the equation.
No particular relationship to pi, though. At least not from building a pyramid whose side areas was equal to a square of the height of the pyramid.
7/11 happens to be a very good approximation of sqrt(phi)/2, and 11/7 happens to be very good approximation to pi/2. Interesting coincidence. My guess is that the Egyptians were approximating sqrt(phi)/2 to achieve the area ratio they wanted, and were not trying to approximate pi. Especially if they thought pi was 3.16 (since there's more accurate fractions for approximating 3.16. 19/6, for example).
Thank you for sharing that info, Kaitlyn, and for the correction.
Bravo.
Not believing that the Ancient Egyptians had effectively squared the circle I spent an hour working the precise ratio out using high school maths from 50 years ago and was delighted to find phi hidden in there instead. Only then did I think of looking to see if anyone else had spotted the mistake. And you had.
I suppose flexing you mental muscles can't do any harm at my age. So not an hour completely wasted.😂
So I posted a link to this video on a few BAM vids (some had comments turned off)😎
Only approved questions gets answered 🤫😁
This has the vibes of “subtract your age from the current year and you’ll get the year you were born in!!” Sure if I multiply random numbers by a random measurement I’m sure to eventually find an Important Number
Great video. And I totally agree, you can basically find any number in such a gigantic building to support your theorie. I am sure you can also find E=mc2 lol
But are there, according to you, any mathematical or astrological connection that does stand ground and shows level of hi intelligence?
What about the piramid is aligned with true north? I mean we don't need to over romantasize this fact and make it more epic then it should be. But to me, this sounds still pretty impressive.
So are there any other things like this that you find pretty impressive?
Yes, I think it is impressive that they were able to do that. There has been some speculation that they may have used the Big Dipper and Little Dipper to do it.
Then tell me any structure on earth that could provide such so many "coincidence" like that of the pyramid.
@@zyveetorre1242 any structure. Anywhere
@@zyveetorre1242 literally any decently sized building, anywhere on the planet
Hell, many of these ideas don’t _even_ rise to the status of being coincidences.
The best way that I can compare finding your channel and learning all this info is by using the allegory of the cave. All I saw was the shadows and didn’t realize they weren’t real but now I know that what lies beyond the cave is what’s real and will definitely exercise more caution when charlatans come spouting the answers to ancient “mysteries”
Wonderful video thank you . Always open to learn something new ☺️
You're doing a great job with these debunking videos.
Thanks. Glad you like them!
good content
Another banger Doc.
I'd love for someone to do some numerology mumbo-jumbo on the first McDonalds in France (or anywhere really.)
Professor Miano, have you heard of Garrett Ryan over at the channel Toldinstone? He's also a great educator of ancient history like you, and I just started reading his book "Naked Statues, Fat Gladiators, and War Elephants." It's fabulous.
I think it would be a great book review for your book series!
Also, I'm sure you two could have a stellar collaboration. 🤙🏻
Yes, I am subscribed to him myself. I didn't realize he had a book.
Thanks professor you make a great point in this video that all people interested in ancient history should note. Maths is maths and history including architectural history is quite different. Sure, maths was used but unless it's stuff we don't know today it's still maths. Now if the program being critiqued could actually show that the Egyptian set out to symbolically represent the earth then the debunk you have done on the accuracy of their calculations would be irrelevant, since what they achieved was so close to the reality and leaving us with another proof of some kind of great astronomy that understood a global world map 4000BCE and set out to incorporate it visually into this architecture ( whatever other main purpose it had). Nice one!
We need these videos. So many people are fooled by this. One thing struck me as funny. He begins by saying "Nothing, absolutely nothing proves that it's a tomb, and at 20 minutes into your video he states that this pyramid is the most enigmatic tomb ever built on the planet.🤔 So, which is it?
The Egyptian definitely did know about pi. I'm not sure about the "golden ratio", since that term comes from the Greeks, but they definitely knew pi and aproximated it to 22/7.
I read a book a few decades ago where the author derived all of these constants from the post box on their road ;)
I really wish I could remember what it was as it elegantly shows how easy it is to find these ratios in pretty much anything. Particularly when you don't have any limit on the number of measurements you make and the mathematical procedures you do to them.
I remember reading a French Pseudo-History or ancient alien theory book and was quite impressed. I was twelve. I did not know any better. I cringe now thinking about it. Still, it was only one book, and I received little support for these views outside of the book. Today... there is so much of this information available, I wonder what I would have done. Jeep up the good work.
Why did many of these theories originate in France anyway?
Not to dis the French as there are French academics who do quality work = but what you noted is true. A lot of pseudoscientific trash seems to originate from French sources - and Russian as well coincidentally. 🤷
Let's just let this sit a bit. 🐒@@varyolla435
You could make lots more money coming up with silly ancient aliens videos😀😀keep up the good work
"Newton was wrong occasionally, you know. (Ask Einstein about that.)" LMAO
Little did you realize the strength of the argument you were formulating for time travelers.
I suppose I’m one of the “crazy’s”! Maybe a conspiracy believer in one way or another. When I find something intriguing, that I don’t completely understand it fascinates me and it normally consumes me and any free time I have. At this point 2-3 weeks in, basically binge watching and reading any articles trying to find some fallacies. And one part (of many) that seems like a stretch is the math used, it seems to be Trying to find a way to a pre determined conclusion. Though you seem to focus on the same. You use the absolute worst math/measurements observations made by the other side. With all that being said, I’m glad you made this video, to be honest this isn’t as convincing as I hoped it would be. Just like like my feelings about the conspiracies math/measurements conclusions. I will say I am impressed with your videos and the work you put into them. You are an extremely talented individual and will probably end up watching every video on your channel and all your hard work will not go unnoticed, and I will attempt to listen to all of your theories and points with the open mind to the best of my ability. As I have been trying to with other videos, and ideas! Thank you for the videos and thank you if you made it this far in this comment. Haha
I think it’s funny that the modern measurements are after centuries of people removing blocks. They are not their original dimensions anymore.
What you mean they did a survey in 2015 by glend dash the most modern which did estimations on the orginal dimension of the pyramid orginally built with the casing stone
Haha, "don't be that guy".
Great work, thanks for the vid!
I like this kind of content better than quizzes.
It takes more time!
I had to stop this on 9:41. I think i have heard every mathematical and geometric equation known to humankind associated with the great pyramid. x it by this, divide it by that, pi, the golden ratio, and yes, even the metre. All related to the earths measurements. Well, give me a dinning room table and i could pull all kinds of equations out of it if i try hard enough and use the same logic.
I thought about stopping around that same time for the same exact reason. Even though the whole video is a bit of blur already, I think the second part is well worth the watch. He really starts to go off on the absurdities of the whole thing there.
@@MarkVrem Thanks for your reply. Did you know that if you x the length of an iPhone 11 (15.5 cm) by 2,585 you get the circumference of the Earth ? (give or take a few kilometers). I think i might be onto something here 😉😉
Yeah but your not gonna get pi and their basic ratio between the base and height just baisc gemotery.
And as well I completely disagree with your theory on the pi and golden ratio proportions of the great pyramid being a hoax. Since supposedly you say there isnt enough of the pyramid to get accurate measurement's which is completely false.I mean all you would need to get the proportion cause you realize that the great pyramid is just a giant triangle right would be the base length and the slope angles.Thats all and of course some of the casing stones on each side survived enough that one could get an accurate determination of the slope angles of each side since after the 13th century removal by the Arab's of the casing stones cause some of the upper stones of the pyramid to come crashing down burying the remaining casing stones which helped preserved them as well when the first surveys were done in the late 1800s by the flinders pettier and they found the corner sockets which mark approx where the original corners were or what is believed which is how they know the base length you could make a pyramid that is 1000 feet long or a million but if the slope angle is equal to that of the great pyramid you still get pi because that is the result of the slope angle that they choose so it doesn't really matter wh.at the base length of the great pyramid was.If you look at its measurement they will usually say online that its a sqaure at around like 756 feet and a height of 481 but this is not true.Because if you look at the actual surveys that have been done by flinders petrie or jh cole or even the new survey that was done in 2015 by glend dash you will find that the sides vary in length slightly.In the survey they have to measurement one the casing base and the other which is the platfrom base.One is basically the measurments of the pyramid with the casing stone and the other is if you inculded the socle or platfroom the pyramid sits on .The casing stone measurements which is the measurement they minium and maxoum and mean approx of what they think the base lenght of each side was based on the minium and mean estiamtion the difference between the longest and shortest side is about 2.5 inches based on the minium approx of the base lenght and mean 3 inches.But the largest difference based on the max approx is 4.8 inches which is alot so based on the estiamtions there is a 66.67 percent chance that the largest difference between any two sides was 2.5 to 3 inches of course some of this could be due to ersion.So on must of the measurements the pyramids is mostly squared generally speaking the base of the pyramid covers approx 13.1 acres so a difference of lets say 2.5 inch to 3 inches is not that big its only about 0.03 percent of the average estimated vaule of the great pyramids length based on the survey so its pretty squared enough.Also based on the surevey the diagonals that the pyramid form their intersection forms an almost perfect right angle with the most probable angle being 89 degres 59 minutes 48 seconds which is approx 89.99667 degrees so its almost a perfect right angle the egyptians were pretty good at surveying the next problem is the height since they have different approx for the base lenght the heights would vary based on the minium and maxium and mean measurments but if you used the mean maesurments or max you would still get a certian height that would result in a certian ratio between the perimeter of the pyramid and its height because of its slope angle so even you use the mean or max measumrents it still would result in pi.The next problem is the slope angles in the survey no new estmations were given to about its slope angles generally it is said that the slope angle of the great pyramid was around 51 degrees 51 minutes this is not generally true since if you have a pyramid and the sides vary sligthly this would result in the slope angle of the casing stone varying because the sides vary.In the new surevy all they inculded were the estatmtions made the flinders petire and no new estmations were given and petire only meausred the anlge of the northern side.The best thing I could find was the jh cole surevy made in 1925 the average estamated base lenght of this surevy to the new one are very similar but he does inculde estmations of each of the slope angle of the 4 sides with for example the northern side being 51 degrees 48 minutes and 56 seconds and the eastern side being 51 degrees 51 minutes to cut it short the different between the steepest anlge and shallowest is about 0.068 which is actually more of a diffrence that would expect of a structure like the Great pyramid techniqually speaking if you had all the 4 casing stones in hand it would be incredibly hard to tell the difference even with one of thoese plastic compasses you buy in target.Its techinqaully not an insane difference but is still is more than I would have liked.I used this because this is the only freaking surevy that inculdes estmations of the slope angles of each side all other references just say that is like 51 degrees 51 minutes the average of the jh cole survey angles is actually aorund 51.85110725 or approx 51 degree 51 minute and 3.99 seconds pretty close to the east angle.So generally to get the height of a triangle agian assuming that the cross section of the pyramid formed a right angle if not something close to it all you would have to do is know the base apthoem of the one of the sides mutily by tan then the slope of that side to get the apex but the problem is that the great pyramid is not a perfect sqaure for to this but based on most of the measurments it is not bad.So what you could do is take the average of the 4 sides of the mean or max measumrents or minium and half of that and use thats a theortically base apthoem mutiply by tan and then the average slope angle and that wold give you a pretty good approx of what the height would be and then you would just divide the height by sin and the slope angle to get the hypotenous of each side or you could divide the height by tan and the slope angle to get the base apothem of that side and then of course use the phythaogrem theorem and repeat for all the sides to get the dimesnions of slant height and base apothem of each side.I hope this make sense I am kinda of using a square anology on a sturcutre that is not a perfect sqaure but this is probably one of the best ways to do and is the way jh cole cacualte his estmations of the height and slope angles anaway the dimension derived from these give you the pi and phi ratios that people talk about the ratio between the half the perimeter divided by its height equal pi a good approx and the ratio of the peremiter of t he pyramid to its height is the same as a circfumernece of a circle is to its radius to like 99.98 percent acquarcy since the pyramid is not a perfect square and then the ratio of the slant height divided by the base apothem equals the golden ratio.Anaway the online estiamtions of its height are not accurate cause they say its like 756 feet and then its 481 feet but if you did the math it wouldnt be exactly 481 feet .Of course egyptoglist would dissmis this as concidence since the rhin paprus the egyptians estamted pi to be around 3.16 and the pyramid is like 3.1417 which is better than what the anicent greeks got as well the great pyramid is the only pyramid that has this but there are alot of features on the great pyramid has that is why its called the great pyramid.Of course you might says its concidence and the egpytians were just picking random angles like a bunch of idiots and just happened to be that the pyramid was refelctive of pi to such a high degree of aqccuracy but I always thought that the egyptians might have known more math then what the egyptolgist are willing to accept .
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To note this are just basic ratio like the perimeter divided by the height its not like I am multiplying random stuff
@@adriantuesta1012 I hope you copied and paste that comment instead of typing it out every time you use it.
I can find interesting arithmetic outputs in everything.
First, I determine what result I want, then, I go about selecting the exact variables and magnitudes as inputs to my carefully selected function, to produce the desired output.
Who ya gonna call? Professor Mythbuster!! The best.
Splendid show. Many thanks.
I would love to see you and Randall Carlson go toe to toe on this topic. It would be an intense debate!
Not really. I would be like a Trekkie trying to debate an astrophysicist about planetary orbital dynamics. Carlson is an internet fraud much as those who peddle "alternative" nonsense are = so what is there then to debate. One does not give obvious grifters the publicity they so desperately crave by further raising awareness of them via debates. Any useful information being imparted must be balanced again the risk of lending legitimacy to those who do not deserve it. You expose frauds = you do not debate them.
It's crazy how much crackpot media there is compared to debunk content. Keep fighting the good fight.