What are the Rogue Granite Blocks inside the Great Pyramid?

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  • @Thom3748
    @Thom3748 2 роки тому +261

    Just returned from a visit to Egypt, including a climb inside the Great Pyramid to the King's chamber. An experience of a lifetime. Normally, I suffer a bit from claustrophobia, but I didn't let that hold me back in this case. I could have spent hours there absorbing the many mysteries of this beautiful edifice Stunning, actually. Utterly amazing.

    • @LaughingGravy.01
      @LaughingGravy.01 2 роки тому +9

      Enthusiasm makes the difference!

    • @juniorballs6025
      @juniorballs6025 2 роки тому +2

      You lucky person!! Was it quiet in terms of tourists whilst you were there?

    • @Thom3748
      @Thom3748 2 роки тому +19

      @@juniorballs6025 Just the three of us from our tour group, and a young couple meditating in the Kings Chamber. The morning there bordered on a religious experience. Really powerful vibes coming from those limestone and granite walls!

    • @user-pq6mr6op3p
      @user-pq6mr6op3p 2 роки тому +3

      Never happened.

    • @marcrigor6423
      @marcrigor6423 2 роки тому +3

      What's something like that cost?

  • @janschermer4096
    @janschermer4096 Рік тому +28

    Just stumbled upon your videos a few days ago. Never spend a single thought on Egyptology. Now I just can’t get enough of it. Please continue making these videos

  • @stephenjohnhopkinson8096
    @stephenjohnhopkinson8096 Рік тому +5

    Thanks for being so grounded in reality and not succumbing to conspiracy theorists explanations of what's being observed 😊

  • @gregoryhoover2388
    @gregoryhoover2388 2 роки тому +5

    You are performing a great service to humanity by producing these videos. Thank you.

  • @jameskirtley2552
    @jameskirtley2552 2 роки тому +54

    I always wondered, where were the portcullis stones. Your research makes good sense and I agree that the stones need to be recovered, documented, conserved, and even reconstructed if possible. Thanks for the excellent and thought provoking video.

  • @sergemck
    @sergemck 2 роки тому +12

    Your vids and conclusions are of an excellent standard. I have 2 hypotheses:
    1 That the grand King's passage way was used to rope-lift the huge granite blocks by using baskets filled with sand as counterweights to enable lifting of the huge blocks, and the smaller limestone blocks too. Thick ropes and thick cedar wood round trunks to act as rollers, would bear the weight. This would explain why the ceiling of the King's passage way is so inexplicably high.
    2 The small square passage ways leading to the outside of the pyramid were sighting passages used by the pyramid's engineers during construction to ensure that each level of blocks laid were exactly level on at least the two sides of the pyramid. It would be disastrous to lay a level of blocks only to find that one side was 5 centimetres higher than the other side!
    The way it worked was that a container filled with water was placed in an exact position in the King's chamber so that it could be viewed by observers down the two passage ways. A light was shone down passage way A, and it's reflection from the perfectly flat water surface in the container observed at passage way B. Simultaneously with viewing the water reflection, the B observers would also observe the same shone light across the flat, empty surface of the block level they were on. All the angles of the resulting triangle would be measured. This would be repeated with A becoming B. It would then be basic trigonometry to determine the length of all the sides of the triangle. If one side was longer than it should be, then that side was too high in comparison with the other side. Adjustments to the height of the blocks to be laid on the new level could then be made to offset the discrepancy before laying them.

    • @ZILLION4EVER
      @ZILLION4EVER 2 роки тому +7

      nice theory but as an MD I think of these objections:
      ever tried looking into a 'tunnel' that small that has a length of a few meters, let alone tens of meters? 'tunnel' vision is lit and fig apparent..
      + 'shining a light..' you mean sunreflection from a polished object then? possibly seen inside, no way your sun adapted/bright outside mydriatic eye could spot a reflection that far down in the dark
      but nice hypothesis and open mind way of thinking!

    • @sergemck
      @sergemck 2 роки тому +5

      @@ZILLION4EVER Such measurements would be done at night. A single candle is visible at night by more than a mile away. The reflecting liquid need not be water, but could be mercury, but I think water would be quite adequate to observe the reflection, even if very faint. The night-time stars may have been useful for the measurement operation as well.
      It would be nice if HFG could show the alignments of the shafts looking DOWN from the top of the pyramids, instead of being always shown from a side view.

    • @IfUfindthisURlost
      @IfUfindthisURlost 9 місяців тому +3

      @@sergemck Aren't at least one of the tunnels bent? Hence no straight line vision.

    • @brunonikodemski2420
      @brunonikodemski2420 Місяць тому +1

      This water theory has been proposed before, for other areas. It seems obvious that they used it to make the outsides of the later pyramids "flat" in relation to local Gravity. Some of the earlier pyramids seem to have mismatches to the local dirt, and that is why they may have partially disintegrated. They had plenty of water there, since that is how they moved the blocks in.

    • @NeiyMaritz
      @NeiyMaritz Місяць тому +1

      why arent there any mummies in the pyramids?

  • @LaughingGravy.01
    @LaughingGravy.01 2 роки тому +192

    Finally, some real investigation on these very important elements. It's hard to believe that the portcullis hasn't received greater attention. Very much looking forward to your proposed episode on this. Great channel. No nonsense and an overruling rationality in your conclusions. Thanks!

    • @BAMHEIDSPINKWORKS
      @BAMHEIDSPINKWORKS 2 роки тому

      Portcullis = dynamic acoustic/RF filter

    • @jjrobledo
      @jjrobledo 2 роки тому

      Idk videos before this are real investigation...

    • @umetsunota8875
      @umetsunota8875 2 роки тому

      Very much looking And very pretty too ;)

    • @frankferriolo9212
      @frankferriolo9212 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed David Shelley!

    • @wtmerit6129
      @wtmerit6129 2 роки тому +4

      Very good. Very informative. Excellent on the correct preservation attitude. This has lasted for so many generations and should be preserved for as many future generations. Thanks.

  • @tolkienfan1972
    @tolkienfan1972 9 місяців тому +1

    I agree completely with your statement about humbly preserving what's there today instead of making cosmetic changes.

  • @Realist1775
    @Realist1775 2 роки тому +5

    I completely agree that the pyramid should be preserved to keep it’s historical significance. Good video and keep them coming. Well done!

    • @elguapo221
      @elguapo221 2 роки тому

      Not only should it be preserved it should be restored!

    • @hiamaraldvaan7221
      @hiamaraldvaan7221 2 роки тому

      Top layer shoud be removed but thats only my opinion

  • @ParameterGrenze
    @ParameterGrenze Рік тому

    Your channel is the best thing I have come across as a fair, rational and detailed source of information regarding the great pyramids

  • @taranvainas
    @taranvainas Рік тому +6

    Your channel is amazing. In it, you talk about details that always go unnoticed, even for those of us who have been fond of Egypt and its history for years. Thank you for directing my attention to them.

  • @oliversmith9200
    @oliversmith9200 11 місяців тому +1

    This presentation's narrative content articulate well paced delivery and closely tracked illustrations is an edifying pleasure to climb to the top of.

  • @royschmidt675
    @royschmidt675 2 роки тому +22

    Excellent factual video and my shared opinions of exposing this information publicly and leaving ancient ruins as they are found, and not corrupting them with misleading reconstructive contaminating influences. Keep up the great work ! Peace & Love ❤️

    • @patmayer7222
      @patmayer7222 2 роки тому +1

      Yes,,,,,,graves are graves,,,,,no matter where they are,,,,,to be left alone,,,,,,and so I thought most of my life,,,,,,,,,..............peace.bro!

  • @erlingurt
    @erlingurt 2 роки тому +1

    the professionalism of the best kind.

  • @martinthompson5377
    @martinthompson5377 2 роки тому +5

    Brilliant. I would love it if the Egyptian experts saw this video of yours and thought about how they might learn from the insights of those who saved the granite fragments for future investigators to unravel. If they could do the same, wherever they are working, the process of truly unravelling the past can be handed down form generation to generation. Patching up is not the real task; saving clues is what counts.

  • @joelsmith3473
    @joelsmith3473 2 роки тому +1

    Clicking on an unknown creator's video on the Giza pyramids, especially mentioning "original purpose" is a real risky watch on greater UA-cam. However, I was pleasantly rewarded and you've gained a sub.

  • @skotmiller8465
    @skotmiller8465 2 роки тому +54

    I have always wondered why, with all the discussions about how "brilliant" the finished pyramids were, why haven't
    they re-polished one side of one of the remaining limestone casing blocks to end the discussions. I was so pleased when I heard that hawass was no longer "in charge" of the ongoing research in Egypt. He did more harm than good in my view.

    • @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
      @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 2 роки тому +1

      no "repolish" yes to investigate hawass for possible "sales" whatever $$ he is hiding no egyptian will Ever get one penny. as usual.
      he should be open to checks ...

    • @jefflund9134
      @jefflund9134 2 роки тому +5

      the casing is now cairo. what would restoring one side do?

    • @nomadscavenger
      @nomadscavenger 2 роки тому +2

      @@jefflund9134 to get some small idea of what the whole shebang could look like shiny (and white)...? I'm not sure the buildings of Cairo would give the impression of that - huge flat triangle gleaming in the sunlight? If you have an imagination it might be even more awesome than they are right now?

    • @jeffbaxter8770
      @jeffbaxter8770 2 роки тому +13

      I agree, Hawass is a grandstander and egotist.

    • @gregoryhoover2388
      @gregoryhoover2388 2 роки тому +10

      @@jeffbaxter8770 And a thief.

  • @dbaider9467
    @dbaider9467 Рік тому +1

    This channel is very even-handed in its approach. Good stuff.

  • @StephiSensei26
    @StephiSensei26 2 роки тому +10

    I am so glad and honored to be subscribed to this channel. I love your word usage and logical breakdown of the facts. Thank you. Well done.

  • @brianobrain8985
    @brianobrain8985 Рік тому +1

    Very well narrated documentary with clear and precise explanations. I think you will get close to understanding the purpose of these constructions using this kind of logic and taking nothing for granted.

  • @TheDeadlyDan
    @TheDeadlyDan 2 роки тому +74

    Great presentation. I appreciate your focus on the less than published {or noticed} aspects.
    I would love to see your views on both the Dixon relics and the Giza foundation platforms. Keep up the fantastic work no matter where you aim next.

  • @surfjerr
    @surfjerr 2 роки тому +2

    enjoyed vert much that you didnt put a spin on the granite but was honest to the core we need more like you !

  • @jpx1508
    @jpx1508 2 роки тому +49

    I was in Egypt in the early '60's and in the Great Pyramid a number of times. The loose stone fragment referenced in the King's Chamber was still present, and had been pushed up against the close wall at the long end of sarcophagus (believe that would be the north wall).
    While out of place it appeared to have been intentionally placed to block the access to the "free" block in the wall. The floor penetrations were covered but still accessible. The (other) stones from the floor penetrations had long been removed from the pyramid, as had the lid to the sarcophagus. The guides had no stories to justify the existence or placement of the fragment.
    The fragment was the same red granite as the chamber and the exposed surfaces did not match the finish of either the walls or floor. The fragment was oddly and heavily damaged, with substantial portions having been chiseled away; while what remained was still large enough to be unmovable, it was obvious it had always been smaller than the stones in the wall, and it did not apparently fit the area of the two missing stones from the floor penetrations.

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +15

      I love anecdotes like this, thank you for sharing! Presumably the chiseled side is face down now in the floor, which is where the most useful information would be.

    • @jimdillinger7757
      @jimdillinger7757 2 роки тому +5

      Could they be pieces of the broken lid of the sarcophagus?

    • @jpx1508
      @jpx1508 2 роки тому +5

      @@HistoryforGRANITE That could be... the surface of the fragment on which the fragment was resting was an unknown which might have matched the floor or wall surfaces. The five sides which were exposed were equally finished and were smooth, but finished at a level below the floor or walls.

    • @jpx1508
      @jpx1508 2 роки тому +9

      @@jimdillinger7757 The fragment did not appear to be a piece of the broken lid of the sarcophagus.
      The cover is completely missing and would have been a massive piece. Assuming the lid had fit and finish at least equal to the sarcophagus which is completely smooth other than the scratches of tourists, the fragment did not match the level of fit and finish. The sarcophagus is also a unique deeply lustrous stone and assuming the lid was the same stone, the fragment again did not match. The fragment also did not match what would be the rough dimensions of the lid or the possible dimensions of a portion of the lid... the fragment was too thick to match the style of the sarcophagus, and too short to span across the short side of the sarcophagus.

    • @paulmarshall690
      @paulmarshall690 2 роки тому +8

      @@jimdillinger7757 IF it’s a sarcophagus.

  • @antoniorodolpho6835
    @antoniorodolpho6835 Рік тому +2

    This channel is pure gold ! Congratulations!!

  • @mollygrubber
    @mollygrubber 2 роки тому +4

    My favorite part of these videos is the rather barbed digs at Zahi Abass Hawass 😂.
    The content is incredible and I thank you for it, but the Hawass poking is just too glorious.

  • @panchopuskas1
    @panchopuskas1 2 роки тому +1

    "We must be cautious about our presumptions" ........thank you for that. I only wish other channels on this topic would follow your advice.....

  • @raymaidstone2822
    @raymaidstone2822 2 роки тому +17

    😀 Amazing! In all my years of researching Giza plateau pyramids, i’d never come across 3 of the items in this video. Excellent job. Thanks very much for adding to my knowledge 😀

  • @benjaminwheeldon9853
    @benjaminwheeldon9853 2 роки тому +1

    Always delightful to have some meaningful insight, and logical connections between features that are just sitting there in plain sight and add to common sense understanding of the great pyramid.

  • @TheGreatest1974
    @TheGreatest1974 2 роки тому +54

    I think the ‘well shaft’ and grotto are a really interesting and often passed over aspect of the pyramid. The digging of that shaft by hand is an absolutely staggering feat of work. Plus, the people digging it knew exactly where the shaft was heading too, that’s amazing in itself. It’s not by accident that it runs exactly down to the descending passage. And I believe it MUST have been built from the top digging downward, because to start at the bottom and swing hammers upward for the length of that shaft would be basically an impossible task. Just think how quickly even the fittest man would tire out swinging hammers upwards in the dark, or blindfolded to save their eyes from the millions of stone chips? You’d need a fairly large group of Olympians each taking over from each other every five minutes. Definitely top down! Great channel by the way. 👍🇬🇧

    • @SpaceHippo420
      @SpaceHippo420 2 роки тому +2

      Isn’t the well shaft less than 1ft wide? How did they even do that? A man couldn’t fit inside of there to do any work at all.

    • @TheGreatest1974
      @TheGreatest1974 2 роки тому +1

      @@SpaceHippo420 I think it’s more than a foot wide. Hell of an achievement to dig it though.

    • @SpaceHippo420
      @SpaceHippo420 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheGreatest1974 it’s 28 inches square, so definitely not enough room for men to dig it. Many theories that it was the first part of the pyramid and built before the rest of it. The stones around the grotto actually support the stones in the shaft so it had to be built first, so if that’s the case then the lowest section and the grotto are the oldest parts of the pyramid and not the other way around like that idiot hawas believes and spews to everyone. I wonder how they built that!!! AND WHY! 😩 barely enough room for a full grown man to fit! Let alone dig unless they employed an army of midgets 😂 I wonder if there is a spring in the grotto as believed by some that brought water up.

    • @galfawker339
      @galfawker339 Рік тому +7

      I don't think they need to dig it, they can just keep the well " unfilled " when the ancient egyptians piling up blocks around it and smoothing the surface in the process

    • @SpaceHippo420
      @SpaceHippo420 Рік тому

      @bina nocht what are you talking about? Coal mines are gigantic when you get to the bottom and the go in an elevator usually or walk in. Just google pictures of coal mines… They dug this out of granite, I doubt a boy could do that and if he could there’s almost not enough room to do literally anything at all. Going down 20-30ft or however long it is is much different than going in and out a window.

  • @4200timeB
    @4200timeB 2 роки тому +1

    As a guy that has watched hours an hours of ancient Egypt vids i can say that your videos are the kind i enjoy most. The destruction of the pyramids an lack of incite the current High lord master general president all seeing all knowing ruling minister of antiquities Dr. Hawass fails to provide is frustrating. Keep up the good work you have a great channel started cant wait for more.

  • @catman8965
    @catman8965 2 роки тому +5

    @02:06 I recall reading somewhere the block you're asking about was the original stone that blocked the current entry way to the Kings chamber. As far as I know know of no one knows what happened to it.
    GOOD WORK👌☀️

  • @GHost-di9hp
    @GHost-di9hp 2 роки тому +11

    Wow! Thank you for such an insightful and articulate investigation!
    I rarely subscribe to a new channels, especially after viewing just one video. Well done, I look forward to watching more of your content.

  • @johnmatthews723
    @johnmatthews723 2 роки тому +12

    Dear Sir, thank you so much for your work! Actual intelligent research, done remotely is extremely difficult and has immensely impressed me. I have been binge watching your episodes and it is some of the best content I have ever seen on UA-cam . Ever since the tragic death of Nick Barksdale of The Study of Antiquity and The Middle Ages I have been searching for a suitably intelligent channel to replace his brilliant work. Thank you for providing me with the historical content which I crave!
    Friendly greetings from Central Tilba, NSW Australia!

  • @walterholmes4609
    @walterholmes4609 2 роки тому +30

    Thank you from all us Armchair Egyptologists . Just came across the channel and so far love it. One criticism: the vids are so well done their relatively short length does not allow, imo, the viewer to fully engage. I agree with you that small items, overlooked, are really all we have left to work from. And yes, I also agree that the tag team of Hawass and Learner has overlooked more that it has discovered, apart from millions of fish scales. Sadly, and especially with the usual suspects back in charge, the Ministry of Antiquities seems more concerned with filling the New museum rather than investigating what they have
    It's an embarrassment of riches.

    • @johnlarro6872
      @johnlarro6872 2 роки тому +3

      The videos may be "short", but UA-cam is not the forum for hour long indepth study. I am loving these videos as someone who has been interested in the Pyramids all my life, but ultimately know very little. There's enough information presented, in "bite size" snacks that I can happily sit down and enjoy without needing to commit a huge chunk of time which I never seem to find.

    • @Rastei
      @Rastei Рік тому

      @@johnlarro6872 UA-cam is for hours and hours of indepth study just if you want.

    • @johnlarro6872
      @johnlarro6872 Рік тому +1

      @@Rastei Oh I know there's plenty of "full length" content but UA-cam rewards short form, I believe 12-15 mins in particular.

    • @TheLastOilMan
      @TheLastOilMan Рік тому +1

      Well they are Egyptian, what would you expect. A major historical monument ?

  • @StrotherPitzke
    @StrotherPitzke Рік тому +7

    That’s amazing, I had no idea the Portcullis slabs still existed!
    They should be in the museum and even make a replica to demonstrate how clever they were!

    • @JT-si6bl
      @JT-si6bl Рік тому +2

      To add, I think a material analysis would go well with that model. What sort of rope would lift suck blocks. What was their weight? Portcullis of this scale look to be at least 3 tonnes, but its difficult to gain scale here. First time I have 'seen' such examples ever. Astonishing work. Can you imagine the air movement generated by a falling section of stone, and the noise?

  • @elultimopujilense
    @elultimopujilense 2 роки тому +2

    Mindblowing investigation! Thank you so much for this!

  • @ruthc8407
    @ruthc8407 2 роки тому +5

    My countertops are watching this with me.

  • @tonysaint6749
    @tonysaint6749 2 роки тому

    I LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERYTIME I WATCH THESE VIDEOS, THANK YOU FOR TAKING ME THERE.🙃

  • @AutomaticBadger
    @AutomaticBadger 2 роки тому +6

    Thought-provoking content expertly presented. Another great video, please keep it up

  • @Stayoutofthewater522
    @Stayoutofthewater522 Рік тому +2

    I’m sure that there are many things that may be discovered by investigating the rubble around the pyramids I love your videos and all of your insights I’ve been hooked on Egypt for a long time and it’s like you are opening my eyes for the first time. Keep it up.

  • @deydododontdedoh.5672
    @deydododontdedoh.5672 2 роки тому +6

    I can't believe certain blocks have been removed or moved from the main chamber etc, especially as there seems to be no clarity as to where they have been moved to.
    I think that when these things happen and are not documented properly or openly, then this creates a knowledge vacum that allows dubious ideas from 'alternive historians' to take hold.
    When we see things like this happening it's very easy to come to the conclusion that things are stage managed to give a certain agendad modern view of history.

  • @davepowell7168
    @davepowell7168 2 місяці тому

    The 4 'spare ceiling' granite blocks in situ above the 'Kings chamber' puzzle me most because the purpose is enigmatic. Unnecessary for vertical load or aesthetic need..
    I'm a retired engineer and the 18th dynasty peaks my curiosity..
    Tutankhamen buried with more boomerangs than walking sticks being something which would have brought personality to an abstract, tragic young figure but at school the narrative seemed dull as the history had little mystery. I had the privilege of visiting the British museum when the star of the story's stunning headress was making a guest appearance there.
    Forevermore in my memory, world of wonders remaining- questions with conjecture. This channel is excellent, thanks for your gallery explanation amongst other things.

  • @duanebarry2817
    @duanebarry2817 2 роки тому +7

    Would like to see discussion of why the floor of the King's Chamber is such a mess, why it seems unfinished and why it's on a crazy tilt.

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +7

      Subsidence is definitely part of the floor having issues, this is the same reason the ceiling beams cracked.

  • @danielpotter8957
    @danielpotter8957 9 місяців тому

    I have just come back from Egypt. We visited the pyramids at Giza, WOW!! I have watched many documentaries and read books but none of that prepared me for the incredible feeling I had when I saw them! I walked around the pyramid of Khufu, saw the boat pits, which were fascinating. There is an area at the base close to the boat pits that is all granite, it's the only area like this around the whole pyramid and looked totally out place, I can't find any information on it now though and wondered if you could help? Great videos and work, keep it up!

  • @AlmostGrewMyHair
    @AlmostGrewMyHair 2 роки тому +10

    Amazing job with this video.
    There has to be more old texts about the pyramids out there. The mysteries and opinions about these monuments must have been rigorously documented for at least 4 centuries.

    • @juniorballs6025
      @juniorballs6025 2 роки тому

      Just struck me that perhaps the Pharaohs wanted there to be an air of mystery surrounding the pyramids. Adds to the spectacle, and would potentially keep the thieves away for longer. Just a thought 🤠

    • @oaklandsfarmschool8791
      @oaklandsfarmschool8791 2 роки тому +1

      The pyramids are symbolic mountains with caves just as the temples are symbolic forests. It's all about African culture.

    • @AlmostGrewMyHair
      @AlmostGrewMyHair 2 роки тому

      @@juniorballs6025 I kinda feel like the interiors were covered in some nice finish that since then has been removed. Wouldn't be surprised if it was decorative.

    • @jpx1508
      @jpx1508 2 роки тому +3

      @@AlmostGrewMyHair The original finish is highly polished glass smooth stone; in a remarkable contrast to the tendencies of Ancient Egyptians, there is no decorative embellishment, paint or hieroglyphics.

    • @AlmostGrewMyHair
      @AlmostGrewMyHair 2 роки тому +1

      @@jpx1508 Yeah I read that the tunnels passageways were originally filled to the knees with the limestone walls crumbling and piling. Very hard to imagine how it looked originally, before human, animal and environmental wear.

  • @Littlemommatatertot
    @Littlemommatatertot Рік тому

    What you said at the end about a lesson in humidity. I totally agree.

  • @tinkeringinthailand8147
    @tinkeringinthailand8147 2 роки тому +6

    This is the 2nd video of yours I have watched today, and as an avid fan of the pyramids and Egyptian antiquity I love your work. You got a like and also my sub

  • @taylorlee6778
    @taylorlee6778 Рік тому +1

    Great research.

  • @samsmom1491
    @samsmom1491 2 роки тому +16

    Excellent video. Continue with your thought-provoking and informative content and your channel will surely grow.

  • @BK-uf6qr
    @BK-uf6qr Місяць тому

    Your field of study seems so interesting. Piecing together the past. We are at a unique time where technology and communication is far more abundant than it used to be. Carry on!! Knock down the walls of human history.

  • @darko4608
    @darko4608 2 роки тому +26

    Excellent video and analysis, thank you! Curious about what you think about the way the boreholes are done in granite. I hope you find it interesting as a topic for an upcoming video.

    • @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
      @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 2 роки тому

      one smaller one he did not mention... looked like it was gently curving. ! btw some of the granite bits look Beautiful first class.

  • @stevenedwards4470
    @stevenedwards4470 2 роки тому

    You run a nice channel. Just facts and reality. Well researched. No goofy speculations. 👍

  • @wiretamer5710
    @wiretamer5710 2 роки тому +3

    Khufu's portcullis deserves more recognition. It's a significant chunk of technology and a close forensic analysis may shed light on the technolgical capabilities of the Old Kingdom Egypians: if they could do X then they were capable of Y.
    Tomb robbers are indifaticable to a point. They never lift a finger beyond achieving their goal. If they had to shatter the portcullis slabs then so be it, but where are the rest of the fragments? Surely they were not all reduced to souvenir size.

  • @od1452
    @od1452 9 місяців тому

    Forgot to say. Great job. I am always amazed what you can figure out from your research.. Thanks.

  • @Dreaming_Big_09
    @Dreaming_Big_09 2 роки тому +8

    A huge fan of your perspective on this subject. I have always questioned the narrative, because it always felt incomplete. But I never felt like it was aliens! So thank you for a down to earth examination.

  • @vaughnmantack7407
    @vaughnmantack7407 2 роки тому +5

    I enjoyed the information you gave about the pyramid and some of its functions.. I believe that history needs more open minded people as yourself to keep the thought and imagination of the future youths engaged. Thank you again and I would love to hear more about the what was, the what could have been and the truth… well done my friend… well done

  • @AnthonyCassidy50
    @AnthonyCassidy50 Рік тому

    Brilliantly satisfying video. Khufu's portcullis does indeed need studing. And great suggestion that they are reconstructed in the new grand museum. brilliant.

  • @gordonthomas7511
    @gordonthomas7511 2 роки тому +7

    Q: Why do they call the two upper chambers the King's and Queen's chambers? Aren't there three smaller Queen's Pyramids outside? The answer is the ceiling on each of these two chambers. They are named due to the tents Kings and Queens used. You see, queens did not have an upper flat sheet of cloth across their tent. Kings did. So when entering these two chambers, the people experiencing them first hand named them based upon the interior of royal tents that were used at the time. So? Why are there two upper chambers and a lower chamber to place the pharaoh for his final resting? The answer lies in the ancient Egyptian Religion and their belief in the transition into the afterlife and the Ba Bird. The subterranean chamber was discarded as the underground water table flowing in the direction of the Nile, kept filling it with water, making it unusable for the Pharaoh. BUT, it turned out to be a great way to gain access to fresh cool water without carrying it from the polluted Nile River. Thus they added a well to the bottom of this chamber and then made a corridor up and down through the bedrock until it they met, allowing them to use an animal bladder to hoist fresh cool water to the pyramid builders to quench their thirst. BTW, you are spot-on with your analysis of the pyramids and how they were built.

    • @liftedmarco4976
      @liftedmarco4976 2 роки тому

      Idk if you've seen this, but it's the best explanation on the different chambers I've ever seen.
      ua-cam.com/video/gBpUU5uqIi8/v-deo.html

    • @pgtmr2713
      @pgtmr2713 2 роки тому +2

      I think the Subteranian chamber was a drain. Water down the descending passage produced vacuum in the well shaft. powering the works up top. 2 vacuum chambers, with stone pistons in the shafts, that have been removed, replaced by Gantenbrink doors. That's why they were polished limestone shafts, why there was a niche in the bottom (stopping point.) why the king's chamber had a lip to keep the last stone from getting pulled in under vacuum. The stone ball found was a check ball to cover an orifice to slow the machine when released to the down position.The pistons pulled ropes outside , north and south 2 exterior cranes with ropes and a spool. The well shaft ports right up to where the 2 chambers split. Invisible vacuum power.

  • @claudiosaltara7003
    @claudiosaltara7003 2 роки тому +2

    I would like to extend my life expectancy just to follow the discoveries or theories of archaeologists about the great pyramid. Over the year since as a child a read about the discovery of the pit next to the pyramid housing the solar boat. I never overlooked any literature about the pyramid, it seems to it is an unsolvable mystery.

  • @wheelitzr2
    @wheelitzr2 2 роки тому +3

    I am incredibly impressed! Your knowledge and delivery is absolutely fantastic!

  • @fred-jandejong244
    @fred-jandejong244 2 роки тому +2

    Unbelievable good work. I was amazed by it. The second time already, thanks Granite!👍

  • @dazuk1969
    @dazuk1969 2 роки тому +5

    I haven't really heard anyone talk about the port caulis area in the great pyramid so I would be interested to watch a vid on that if you make one. These granite pieces were probably part of much larger plugs, but the drill holes don't look like they go all the way through the stone so they could not be used to put rope through. They are a bit of a mystery.

  • @ZILLION4EVER
    @ZILLION4EVER 2 роки тому +2

    Love your meticulous research and insights!
    Keep up the great work, looking forward to your next video!

  • @adamschnulle687
    @adamschnulle687 2 роки тому +6

    Would be very interested in your opinions on the unfinished obelisk in aswan. The tool marks and the undercutting of the obelisk itself specifically. Thanks.

  • @davebowles1957
    @davebowles1957 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating, very interesting. Well done. Kepp up the great work. I want to see more.
    Thank you.

  • @MC-yx2gn
    @MC-yx2gn 2 роки тому +57

    Question: if those holes in the granite plugs were for ropes, for lifting, then it should be safe to assume we have evidence of rigging points in the structure above. There would be a series of pulley blocks and probably a change of direction or two, so there should be evidence of bull rings or their mounting points left within the structure above. Is there any evidence of this? Forgive the terminology. The rigging part I understand due to the nature of my work, but everything to me is just a “granite plug”. Great video

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +47

      Yes there are recessed semi-circle grooves for rollers that would change the direction of force.

    • @michaeldelaney8090
      @michaeldelaney8090 2 роки тому

      É

    • @coteezy86
      @coteezy86 Рік тому +6

      I watched a program that suggested te grand gallery was esdientaly a machine where heavy logs attached to ropes were rolled down the a short lip on the sides to provide mechanical advantage and move the blocks in a spiral pattern that winds up the pyramid, meaning fewer people were needed to move the blocks up and in place. Kinda like a counter balance. We know that there are rubble uncarved and unfaceted large rocks in areas between the shared quarried stone blocks..this theroy of how the grand gallery was essentialy a machine used to construct the pyramid qnd not a room realy at all in the convencial sense..they theroised this is howthe huge granite blocks in the kings chamber were put in place..the missing corner in the Great pyramid makes sense as these corners would need to be left open during construction and then acted as access points to fill this spiral ramp with ruble when construction was completed. They even found remnants of both wood and grease on these short lips in the grand gallery they believe the large wood logs rolled down when pulling the blocks up this ramp..in the 1970s some tech was used by a French archeologist to image density in the pyramid and it showed a less dense spiral going all the way up the pyramid. The person that came up with this theroy of the purpose of the grand gallery formed this theroy long before the imaging of the spiral was rediscovered in the Frenchman analysis Ling after he had already formed this theroy..this could play into what's being discussed in this viedo

    • @intuitiveempath8988
      @intuitiveempath8988 Рік тому

      Of corse, the so called grand gallery was set up for a pulley system.. let me add to do only certain jobs.

    • @charliepearce8767
      @charliepearce8767 Рік тому +1

      ​@History for GRANITE
      GEEZ ...You'd think with all the blocks, blocking entry into the tomb, the dead didn't want anyone in there ?

  • @TheGreatest1974
    @TheGreatest1974 2 роки тому +1

    For those among us that don’t believe the great pyramid was actually a ‘tomb’, I would like to know their explanation of why there was a portcullis to stop people getting through.

  • @Emery008
    @Emery008 2 роки тому +17

    Thank you for this and all other extremely profound videos. Can you make a video on the Cheops pyramid northeast corner at mid height elevation? There is a opening which gives clues to a internal spiral construction. Greetings and keep up the extraordinary work.

    • @homefrontforge
      @homefrontforge 2 роки тому +1

      Having watched a video on the notch you describe, I was surprised to see "rubble" chambers incorporated into the pyramid construction. I had been under the assumption that the pyramids were all block all through.
      Definitely curious to the use and extent of these features.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 2 роки тому +2

      @@homefrontforge "I had been under the assumption that the pyramids were all block all through. "
      Even a cursory examination of the more worn away areas of the exterior show that the inner layers beyond the casing and first course of stone behind it are much less ordered and often uses rubble and stone chips to fill cracks.
      It's a pretty sensible economical use of material when you think about it - and explains a lot about the claimed relative speed of the pyramid construction.
      It also explains why many smaller pyramids have all but turned to mounds of dust with their casing and outer stone layers removed - the greater the surface area the faster erosion happens.
      Large, whole (especially smooth) stone blocks decrease the surface area for wind borne sand to erode - it also explains why that one pyramid only has granite casing at the bottom layer - it's the most critical for retaining the others as wind borne sand will hit more further down.

  • @viktorrietveld
    @viktorrietveld Рік тому

    I *love* your channel. I'm completely binge watching it.

  • @svetovidarkonsky1670
    @svetovidarkonsky1670 2 роки тому +3

    Mate... seriously great vids on this subject. It's the kind of fair dinkum, factual information that a video on the Giza Plateau and the Great Pyramid needs. I have been interested in the Pyramids since I was a kid in primary school ( I'm now 66yo) and whilst having a degree in both Fine Arts and Art History, I have never had comfortable conclusions regarding the Great Pyramid. Always finding more questions than answers lol. You have certainly given me pause for thought on a number of questions that I have always had, and for that, I thank you very much. Seriously, good luck with this channel, and I shall be looking forward to your next vid. Kind regards.

    • @paulmarshall690
      @paulmarshall690 2 роки тому +1

      “Comfortable conclusions” indeed! Me either.
      My intuition screams: this is a tool not a tomb.
      Ask your electrical engineer friends to analyze the diagram of the passageways.
      Ask them: “if you didn’t know what this was, what would your best guess be?”
      Examine the electromagnetic properties of granite. Add geomagnetic energy, properties of gravitational forces and what do you get?
      (Not a rhetorical question)

    • @svetovidarkonsky1670
      @svetovidarkonsky1670 2 роки тому

      No offense, but that was not my meaning. I have absolutely no doubt it was a tomb, what has concerned me was many of the conclusions drawn, often of an architectural nature, and what to me were misconceptions in the archeology that are repeated as canon. Cheers

  • @hawkeye1370
    @hawkeye1370 2 роки тому

    Amazing research, very enjoyable, also satisfying to watch a video where you have come to very logical conclusions about a previous mystery.

  • @Paul-hl8yg
    @Paul-hl8yg 2 роки тому +3

    I remember many years ago seeing photos of the gap in the Kings chamber, far right corner. It had been set with many metal bars & a much larger gap than shown in this video. It was stated by some that a corridor was behind, stating it was known there was this corridor & a broken chair was once found behind? With the blocks being granite & that itself being a connection to the Kings chamber, makes me wonder if they were the original stones from that far right corner. New stones now replace the originals, that had been drilled to receive the metal bars. Also, why would the holes in the blocks line up with vertical grooves cut to receive a sliding block?

  • @mileslong3904
    @mileslong3904 2 роки тому +1

    Never heard of this before. Fascinating. Keep it up.

  • @randomhuman1965
    @randomhuman1965 2 роки тому +8

    That's great. Thanks for the awesome vids.
    Curious Being had an interesting one about the Osiris(i believe) Shafts where i noted the anchor holes drilled down one inside face of the shafts. They are large, numerous and regularly spaced. If modern rails/tracks were bolted into the holes it would have a capacity of several tons. Even if made of bronze.
    It made me curious a) as to the purpose, and b) wether there would be any metallurgical remnants, residues, or marks remaining to provide more insight. Ideally a broken wedge anchor bolt left in a hole...
    Cheers!!

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 2 роки тому

      It's best not to assume that any marks are of original intent of the builders.
      Unfortunately the damage done to many ancient Egyptian sites during the Georgian, Victorian and Edwardian eras of Egyptology was a sad mess with little to no method, oversight or even documentation in some cases.

    • @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491
      @jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 2 роки тому

      @@mnomadvfx my dear: don't forget about the muzz. remember what is happening TODAY to the last egyptians: the copts.. mm?
      the muzz Clean out. any temple treasure found in india TODAY is in non-invaded areas.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 2 роки тому

    Those grooves are awesome! Great video

  • @MURD3RWAVE
    @MURD3RWAVE 2 роки тому +3

    Some questions that might inspire you for future videos. Was there a sarcophagus in the Queen's chamber? Does the sarcophagus in the king's chamber move or is it built in to floor? Any opinions if there is a secret door in king's chamber wall? Your opinions on the voids? Why the doors in some of the shafts? What is the writing on the doors and behind the doors? Was the pyramid actually smaller and they expanded it? What is your opinion on the over construction on the relieving chambers? Does the Osiris shaft have anything to do with Khufu? What is the purpose of the grotto? Your reasons for or against if the pyramid was built by Khufu. When was it first looted or was there really nothing inside it? Was there writing on the Queen's chamber ceiling? Why was the underground chamber not finished? Why the small shaft in the underground chamber? Was the queen chamber floor originally granite? What are your thoughts about quarts sand found when holes where drilled next to Queen's chamber? Was a 8 sided pyramid intentional or a construction coincidence? Opinion on the thieves tunnel? Are there any ALT theories about the Great Pyramid you like or dislike? I can go on and on but if maybe this will help with some inspiration for future vids. Sick of all the power plant theories. So I'm personally more interested in the facts and some speculating. Last one. Anything you think egyptologist overlook about the pyramid or might be wrong about?

    • @samacmaca8144
      @samacmaca8144 2 роки тому

      And don't forget about what old historians wrote about? How salt seemed to coat the walls until about half way the pyramids?
      All I want is for one of those academics that say they know how the Egyptians bored a perfect hole through sold granite then I might start believing some of what they tell us?

    • @lawoull.6581
      @lawoull.6581 2 роки тому

      Serious question..do you like hamhocks or neckbones in your collard greens 🤔...idk..

    • @invictus6074
      @invictus6074 2 роки тому +2

      @@samacmaca8144 if you are so concerned about holes go watch the videos done by the Scientists Against Myths account which shows you a few ways

    • @lawoull.6581
      @lawoull.6581 2 роки тому

      @@bunzeebear2973 they were great chefa...many hamhocks and neckbones....mmmph....geo polymer

    • @duanebarry2817
      @duanebarry2817 2 роки тому

      @@bunzeebear2973 I recall a History Channel documentary where two masons tried to make a replica of the Sphinx's nose using the same type of copper chisels the Ancient Egyptians had and they gave up, resorting to modern power tools to finish the job.

  • @pfranks75
    @pfranks75 2 роки тому +1

    My husband and I visited Egypt a few years ago! We didn’t go inside the Great Pyramid put I did walk around it. Walking like an Egyptian on a video, having fun!

  • @lbj4993
    @lbj4993 2 роки тому +5

    I was getting bored out of my scull until 'portcullis' was mentioned and partially shown. This is an item I've never heard mentioned before, and this whole video didn't make any sense whatsoever up until that was mentioned, but then it suddenly started to be interesting and make sense. I'd love to see a video specifically about that feature, which I still don't quite understand, but more importantly, have never heard about before. And btw, with the thousands of videos about the pyramids, I wonder why that feature is never pointed out or explained. So for once I learned something new, except I didn't, because here it was more like a footnote of little importance. Too bad, I feel cheated...

    • @patmayer7222
      @patmayer7222 2 роки тому +1

      Yes,,,I agree....smells like long time cover-up .....big people,with lots of money broke into these structures long before anyone even dreamed,,,......professionals at the top of the food chain....think of what the museum's do not have !!!!.....seems James bond was a armature when these blokes went there!!!!.....imo.,,,,,,,,shitstorm.

  • @LinearJaguar_7JR
    @LinearJaguar_7JR Рік тому

    I can't wait for your video on the portcullis mechanism and how it might of worked. I think there is a big clue on how the pyramids were built in the portcullis. Thanks

  • @beowulf6057
    @beowulf6057 2 роки тому +3

    I was in Cairo 3 times in the early 90s. It was like any dirty street huckster was who you slipped a few $ to, to allow you inside. Most unprofessional, un informative thing I’ve ever experienced. What little information that was gleaned, was totally false of course. Thank you for the insightful and excellent videos.

  • @reddpill
    @reddpill 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic research. Been looking for years for some of the photos you have used in your videos. Good finds.

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 2 роки тому +3

    Great information, thank you! I hope some day we can understand how the tubes were made. Just because we don't understand the method does not mean it was exotic or "alien". If we could bring a cell phone back to the 1700's it would be "magic". Endlessly fascinating for sure.

    • @BonFShaw
      @BonFShaw 2 роки тому +2

      Or just a Bic lighter.

    • @GG-ng6zm
      @GG-ng6zm 2 роки тому

      there’s no method to even understand, dynsastic egyptians we’re simply not capable of constructing morterless monuments

  • @triscuitfarms
    @triscuitfarms Місяць тому

    Wonderful presentation that was really cool. I really had no idea where those little plugs could be.

  • @cptcosmo
    @cptcosmo 2 роки тому +5

    Interesting, with these newer videos, I can detect a reduction in the slope of the great pyramid, looks like the original slope of the base breaks at a distinct horizontal band around the 35th course, as well as a change in block size. Is there a material transition at this point from granite to smaller limestone blocks?

    • @JT-si6bl
      @JT-si6bl Рік тому

      me too. Its amazing how this becomes more evident. Amazing work here...

  • @tomsamsungandroid5402
    @tomsamsungandroid5402 2 роки тому

    I'm so happy you created this channel. Very well prepared video.

  • @SacredGeometryDecoded
    @SacredGeometryDecoded 2 роки тому +7

    Another great video
    If you are interested I have done a series of experiments with dynastic era tools and materials to drill, cut, polish granite.
    I can give cutting rates and time per square foot.
    Those tools work really well.
    Scientists Against Myths channel also has a great channel. Their team has used flint tools for carving and have also made stone vases. They inspired me and have taken the work the work of Denys Stocks further. For instance they discovered the proper way to use the Egyptian flywheel drill to dramatically increase efficiency.

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +1

      Right on, I thought your name sounded familiar, I'll have to take a look again. I may hit you up for a tube drill question as well.

    • @SacredGeometryDecoded
      @SacredGeometryDecoded 2 роки тому +4

      @@HistoryforGRANITE ua-cam.com/play/PL47iaGB6hlT5sYZWd_G7sHg9cSRv6WWS6.html
      A playlist of most of my experiments, begins with basics of making the abrasives and polishing, around video 12 is a collection of tube drilling how to’s.
      After only a few hours I got quite proficient and could maintain 330rpm plus. Which is still the speed for optimal results recommended by modern granite coring companies.
      We were able to replicate the striations and core tapering seem in ancient examples. In fact those type of signatures are unavoidable by using their drill.

    • @michaelleblanc7283
      @michaelleblanc7283 2 роки тому +1

      @@SacredGeometryDecoded SGD - love your studies and the work you do.

    • @SacredGeometryDecoded
      @SacredGeometryDecoded 2 роки тому

      @@michaelleblanc7283 thanks

  • @davidc6510
    @davidc6510 2 роки тому

    I watched a few of your videos today and they were very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

  • @mcdowelltw
    @mcdowelltw 2 роки тому +3

    Nice job. That was very interesting to contrast different time periods like that. Are you curious why it does not have any wall paintings extoling the Pharaoh and that a group removed the soot or what looked like it that was originally there?

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +3

      It's not unreasonable to consider if interior chambers originally had painted reliefs. Large mastaba tombs certainly had them. The best reason I can give why Old Kingdom pyramids weren't decorated is that pharaohs had large temples for that sort of thing, whereas everyone else had to use their mastaba.

    • @mcdowelltw
      @mcdowelltw 2 роки тому +2

      @@HistoryforGRANITE The pyramid is a super monument to the Pharaoh. It should have at lease something stating who built it.. If it were built as a tomb, do you think it was burned up inside by ancient vandals?

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +2

      @@mcdowelltw Water damage and salt crystals build up on the limestone, especially where the ventilation is the worst.

  • @dennisbeers
    @dennisbeers Рік тому

    I stumbled my way to your channel. I subscribed and like every video that I have been binge watching. Thank for your time and effort you put into them.

  • @RobbinRams
    @RobbinRams 2 роки тому +16

    Is it know whats underneath the king's chambers floor? I've visited the great pyramid last week and Luxor and just like in Luxor some of the floors where fake/blocked with the same time of floor as the king's chambers. Now seeing your pictures it even makes more sense there's something down there..

    • @HistoryforGRANITE
      @HistoryforGRANITE  2 роки тому +15

      The hole in the northwest corner only has empty space and rough core masonry visible. There are a couple of photos inside floating around on the web. There’s still a very small round hole they left where they patched it, perhaps to monitor any settlement below.

    • @TheTeisings
      @TheTeisings 11 місяців тому +1

      The pit under the floor is full of bones. The species that provided the bones is the reason why the pit is covered.

  • @lurkmoar3926
    @lurkmoar3926 Рік тому

    Your videos are fascinating. Thanks for the awesome archeological detective work. 👍

  • @eddietucker9047
    @eddietucker9047 2 роки тому +3

    Enjoyed watching this. The holes to me suggest they were machined using a core drill and not done by hand ; The stones look like they could have been used as counter weights for opening and closing ; I have always been intrigued by the pyramids. To me they were a working machine, harmonically in tune with Mother Earth, as well as a celestial tool. Thanks for the video.

    • @mnomadvfx
      @mnomadvfx 2 роки тому

      "The holes to me suggest they were machined using a core drill and not done by hand"
      A machine can in fact be powered by human hand 😑, only an inept fool would claim all machines use electric power, the evidence exists in ancient water wheels and windmills all over the world that harness river and wind power to drive machinery.
      Core/tube drills almost certainly can be operated by hand, in fact they were likely used to excavate all the hard stone like basalt and granite in Egypt.
      All you need to do is use tube drills to carve out an outline of a shape, and then use a wedge and hammer between the bedrock and the shape to crack it loose from the bedrock with far less effort than it took to make the tube drill holes.
      Rinse and repeat with several teams of drillers and you could excavate even the massive unfinished obelisk in a reasonable period of time, let alone something much smaller like the Great Pyramid sarcophagus.

  • @georgeharteman4083
    @georgeharteman4083 2 роки тому +1

    Great new work, please continue.

  • @banmadabon
    @banmadabon Рік тому +3

    I'm pleased to see that most of the old Egyptologist were Italians (as myself) or of Italian origin...If you have a knack for ancient Egypt a visit to Turin Egizio museum is a must.

  • @42isthelock
    @42isthelock 2 роки тому

    Incredibly insightful information. Well done

  • @juanzero5398
    @juanzero5398 2 роки тому +23

    The politics surrounding the great pyramids are one of the biggest insults to human intelligence on this planet. The beurocracy disgusts me. And I'm not an educated person 😂 xx

    • @Oakdieu
      @Oakdieu 2 місяці тому +2

      You are an educated person, your comment demonstrates such. Just not factory educated.

    • @juanzero5398
      @juanzero5398 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Oakdieu thank you. Academically I'm officially a write off

    • @fmrmrmr
      @fmrmrmr 2 місяці тому

      How do I teach these kids?

    • @juanzero5398
      @juanzero5398 Місяць тому

      @@fmrmrmr which ones there's so many. What happened to the responsible adults. Do they still exist or has the human race lost all of its self respect?

    • @fmrmrmr
      @fmrmrmr Місяць тому

      @@juanzero5398 I personally think they were traded for the pyramids. The alien masters built us the pyramids but received all responsible adults in trade.
      It was one of the biggest mistakes those Egyptians made. I ask them: was it worth it? Are you enjoying your pyramids now? 😭😭

  • @christopherbatty3837
    @christopherbatty3837 2 роки тому

    Great stuff ! NOW some (sensible) prognosis required as to the
    1. regulatory function of these blocks
    2. from where in the structure they were rope-operated
    3. For which energy medium
    Keep them coming 🎬🎥📹

  • @VimyScout
    @VimyScout 2 роки тому +3

    Still convinced the ancient Egyptian's didn't build the pyramids. That helpful scroll that suddenly turned up in an obscure cave hasn't convinced me either.

  • @doronron7323
    @doronron7323 Рік тому

    What a find this channel seems to be....thank you.

  • @rainfieldmusic
    @rainfieldmusic 2 роки тому

    Excellent production. Deductions on target. Thanks 😊