Scooter and his Stinson 108 -3 Voyager
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2019
- The Stinson 108-3 is the next aircraft of a member we feature. This is another classic aircraft circa 1948. Its a rag and tube aircraft, meaning its a fabric covered airplane. When this aircraft was built few asphalt runways existed and grass runways littered the countryside. This airplane was built for that environment it like to be operated on grass strip and out of farm fields. The Stinson 108 is an honest 4 person aircraft with a useful load around 1000 pounds, you can load it with people, add some luggage, and still have enough fuel to get some where. The Franklin 165 horsepower engine provide ample power and a smooth ride. The Stinson 108-3 had a few upgrades over earlier models with the addition of large fuel tanks, a stronger main spar allowing a higher max gross weight, a larger tail for more flight stability, and the addition of rudder trim. All of these aircraft originally came with wooden propellers most including this one were upgraded to a metal prop that provides better performance. This Stinson has some other optional upgrades including a vacuum system and instruments and is the Voyager model designed primarily as an aircraft for personal and family travel vs. the Station Wagon model that had a rear seat area designed to haul cargo as well as people. In this video you will see Scooters Stinson 108-3 up close.
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Hey Scooter.....I watched this video again for reference and encouragement. I am doing a prebuy on a candidate 108-3 this weekend. Any last minute advice? I have been looking for a while and I just wanted you to know that you and your videos have inspired me to get current again, get a tailwheel endorsement and buy a Stinson. I think that was your goal with this channel and you have met your goal, Sir!!! Thank you so much for your content.
There's a little more information about the Stinson Air frame on the Stinson 108 review video. And I'm glad it inspired you to get your tail wheel and get current again, That is the idea behind the channel. It makes me smile to see its work at least once!
Hey Todd, how was your pre-buy and inspection? I'm in the market for a 108, love these aircraft! Did you use Vref as a base for pricing? Any advice for approaching this buy?
Scooter, sent you a message on Instagram if you have any spare time.
My family had a 1946 Stinson Voyager in the 1970s thru the 1990s. I had no idea this is considered such a good plane. I often wonder who has it now, where it went to. My dad was the pilot and also an instructor and I see you have a vid about Put in Bay, we are from Ohio, near Cleveland and used to fly there all the time. When I was a teen I took formal lessons from my dad in the late 1980s and did my first solo flight to Kellys Island. We flew out of Columbia airport that is on Rt. 82 in Columbia Station.
I've flown into Columbia airport. It's still there. It's getting a little rundown as an airport it seems to be under decline, but it's a great stop. I don't think the Stinson was considered a great airplane until recently. In the '70s through the '90s it would have been considered a inexpensive tail wheel airplane and hadn't reached its " vintage status " yet. There was a point where tail wheel airplanes and fabric airplanes were considered an inferior means of construction. As people make home builds and we look at strength and weight, there's been a new acceptance of tube and fabric airplanes and we've come to realize that It's a great construction method. If you have any pictures of that airplane I'd love to see them.
My 108-3 had wood in the cabin on the walls and doors. Kinda looked like it was a vintage boat inside.
That was Station Wagon trim.
I fly a Cessna 170B and I love it but I also love the Stinson 108 series. Beautiful airplanes and a joy to fly! Love your videos!
Thank for watching the videos. The Cessna 170B is great plane and what I looking for when I found this plane. Flew it once and I sold.
Thanks for the video, it brings back memories of a little boy riding along with his dad in our 1948 Stinson Voyager in the late 1950s in Missouri before we moved to California.
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Great looking plane, a real trippin scene!
Thank you! It is my pride and joy.
THANKS LOADS for a bit of a nostalgic ride. When I was a kid, our family had a 1948 108-3 Voyager, "Station Wagon" model. I loved that plane. Never went cross country, but had some great Saturdays in it. We flew out of the (now gone) White Rock Airport in east Dallas (now condos). Still some internet info about that airport. We had a Piper Tri-pacer for awhile, loved it also, but the Stinson was our long term craft and always smooth. One uncle went to become a senior captain for Braniff flying 747s Dallas to Honolulu, non-stop. Thanks again for such a nice review and ride-along.
Great series! Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks for watching!
My dad and my uncle had a Stinson in the 1950's. It was hangared at Flushing N.Y. I was in elementary school and i remember the exposed wires inside.
You're a lucky guy....love the 108-3. Ownership is on my bucket list
I have sure enjoyed mine. I stumbled onto it and took a chance... turned out to be the best plane I've ever owned.
Lookin good Scott!
Thanks Steve. I keep looking for your SS at the fly ins we get to. Can't wait to see it.
Scooter? I think that's your handle. I love my dash 3 too! You're a great salesman for the Stinson brand. Great flying airplanes...love the s-m-o-o--t-h running Franklin. Yours is a very late serial number. One of the last ones made. Mine, N6102M.
Yes, mine was originally sold in 1948 by Piper and is a fairly late serial number. The story told at Willow Run airport (where this aircraft was delivered from) is after Piper purchased Stinson the remaining 108 stock sat outside tide down in the center of the field and you could out and choose your aircraft. So the last 300 or so 108's were sold out of order. Also supposedly during the few years they sat outside a hail storm hit Willow Run damaging the aircraft. So you'd pick the aircraft you wanted and Piper would fix the holes in the fabric, repaint it and send you on your way. These are old timers stories not sure how true.
Great Video Scott...Informative, Entertaining, and Enjoyable...perfect. Also, thanks for taking the time to answer some of the thread questions regarding overall usage...Type Fuel, Climb Data, etc... JP
My pleasure!
Scooter! I'd like to see more of the Michigan City airport next time your in that area. I use to live there years ago would be nice to see. Thanks for the vids, Love that plane also.
medic27503 You probably will see more of Michigan City airport. “Plane shopping” has some MGC airport coverage. The swift fuel is great in the Franklin so I we stop there whenever possible. Great airport, I wish the vending machines look credit cards.
Always Liked the looks of them looked for one after I got my private in the 70's but never happen bought a C175 and then 182 still think it is a nice Classic Yours looks great the -3 was my favorte
Right on
That's a nice handle in airplane just a question to ask you what are those 2 horns devices on the right side of the aircraft they look like horns I'm sorry :)
That's the vacuum system. They are ventures
@Great Michigan Bush Co. Hey good morning from Washington State thank you very much. I was just kind of curious what those were and thank you very much for explaining that for me have a good day. 🤙👍
Cool bird. Just curious how much fuel do you hold and GPH. Thanks
It holds 50 gallons and I burn around 10 gallons an hour. I plane three to three and a half hour legs. I like to get out that often even if I don’t need to stop.
Great Michigan Bush Co. Thanks. I've flown many tailwheel airplanes but never a Stinson. My dad had a buddy who had one in the late forty's. cool videos.
Have watched you few times..what airport are ya at ?
We are on the Oakland Troy airport, but I don't spend much time flying around there.
Hello I just had a quick question I have never been in a Stinson and I am a little bit claustrophobic and I am not sure if its just camera angle but it seems like there is not very much headroom.
The headroom is limited for some. I sit on a cushion so I can see over the cowl while taxiing. That takes a little headroom away.
How difficult is it to find Franklin engines or overhaul them?
This plane was flying 30 days later. They are around.
Hi is it true that Franklin 150 hp working to hot ? I live in warm zone with 45 • Celsius in summer. What do you suggest ??
GERMAN TORRES I run a 13 passage oil cooler on mine and it runs to cool. At 45C this cooler would keep the engine at a good temperature. The original wouldn’t work well though.
Great Michigan Bush Co. Thanks a lots Scooter
What about the ethanol in auto fuel? Or you can get the one without ethanol ?
We run ethonl free as mandated by the STC. It's not much cheaper just is much better for the engine.
What are the 2 cylinders on the passenger side of the plane??
Those provide vacuum for the instruments. Called venturi tubes.
Awwwww....the music.....it sucks. Great airplane
People on the line when this plane was built would have disagreed. 😂
I came to the comments just to say how much I enjoyed the choice of music! Hi Scooter!
@@mdickinson Thanks! You can't make everyone one happy with the music glad you enjoyed it.
All you need now is to put a -1 or -2 vertical stab on it.
I just decided to buy a -2 :-)
What is the empty weight of a Stinson 108-3
That one was around 1400 pounds
Bro the plane is tits
Hi what gas do you use ?? 100 LL ??
I have an autofuel STC and use unleaded autofuel as much as I can. When I can't get auto gas I use TCP as an additive to help stop lead buildup.
1500 ft per minute climb? 165hp. Maybe momentarily while you haul back on the yoke and watch rate of climb needle jerk up for a few seconds. No way would you sustain that climb rate for more than a minute with that power. Don't get me wrong, I love 108s but that number seems very unrealistic. If I'm wrong, show me.
No it's the initial climb. It looks to hold 900-1000'
I can barely hear this guy due to the loud music in the background! Had to turn this off and go to another video on Stinsons!
Thanks for the feedback, doing our best but as some guy in his living room making videos without formal training I don't get it right all the time.
Get rid of the music
We have changed the music to be less intrusive over time. Thanks for the input, it’s tough trying to figure you this stuff on your own.