I had the same thought - somebody took this idea and went “what if we did this, but _with computers?”_ and all the most gullible rubes in the world were immediately like “please take our money, sir!” haha
After listening to this beautiful young French woman's impassioned speech, I'm off to join the French Resistance movement and for that reason, je suis dehors.
I'm an artist. I have seriously mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it's important to realize that the art market is MASSIVELY corrupt and one of the easiest ways to launder money. I'd say 9 of 10 people are using are to get around paying taxes (or are hiding money from FAR more sinister crimes). Full ownership allows for that. However this business essentially makes art just another meaningless impersonal stock and strips artworks of their beauty because you don't fully own a piece and can't hang it on your wall to enjoy. I make art for people that want to look at it--not so people can hide cash or get rich. They have un-arted art even more.
Yup the narration for this show is very low level - he isn't really needed for every time the entrepreneur engages with a new dragon but apparently 5 year olds watch this show so for that reason, I'm out!
my favorite is when the show is like entrepreneur: I’m valuing my business at £1M narrator: but the entrepreneur has tested the dragons’ patience with his figures, and it’s leading to a _fiery_ exchange peter: respectfully, I disagree.
The art pieces would be such an illiquid investment. Imagine I need to sell it in an emergency and no one will buy it from me! Or maybe no one will ever buy it! I would rather invest in stocks or bonds.
I had to rewind to see if the big lad said anything at all the other two were so passionate. They almost seemed like they were ready for a scrap by the end of it.
Touker is talking rubbish here. Art is only worth what someone is willing to pat for it. Nothing needs authentication. A poor unknown artist can paint something that someone will pay 1 million pounds for. Debra was correct
Well i agree with Peter Jones and Touker and to simply put it in proper sense i agree basically said that you are thieves & you are stealing people's money 😢 and you don't even have a clue what you are doing. 😂
New International Version “Listen to this, you descendants of Jacob, you who are called by the name of Israel and come from the line of Judah, you who take oaths in the name of the LORD and invoke the God of Israel- but not in truth or righteousness- New Living Translation “Listen to me, O family of Jacob, you who are called by the name of Israel and born into the family of Judah. Listen, you who take oaths in the name of the LORD and call on the God of Israel. You don’t keep your promises,
You know you watched a lot Dragon's Den once you realise the past uploads are -reuploads with a title change and description changes.
NFTs before NFTs 😂
Was my thoughts too.😂
Damn! And I thought I was being original in thinking that too! LOL!
NFTs are just a file, These are physical art that you can hang on the wall. A site called MasterWorks does this since 2017
I had the same thought - somebody took this idea and went “what if we did this, but _with computers?”_ and all the most gullible rubes in the world were immediately like “please take our money, sir!” haha
They were part of the core team that created NFTs.
I have always wanted to own 0.15% of the 34th edition of a sculpture but haven’t found anyone willing to charge me a 10% fee for the service.
After listening to this beautiful young French woman's impassioned speech, I'm off to join the French Resistance movement and for that reason, je suis dehors.
Valid critique from tuka
I'm an artist. I have seriously mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, it's important to realize that the art market is MASSIVELY corrupt and one of the easiest ways to launder money. I'd say 9 of 10 people are using are to get around paying taxes (or are hiding money from FAR more sinister crimes). Full ownership allows for that. However this business essentially makes art just another meaningless impersonal stock and strips artworks of their beauty because you don't fully own a piece and can't hang it on your wall to enjoy. I make art for people that want to look at it--not so people can hide cash or get rich. They have un-arted art even more.
Better off putting your money in the Banksy 🤣
I've watched most of Dragon's Den and I seriously think this is the worst thing I've ever seen pitched
What about Flowsignals or The Knowledge?
@@anubusx this is worse than flowsignal.
Kardokter: let me introduce myself
Anyone remember the old, old episode of a lady pitching a hanging bean bag couch, targeted at students, for 1000 pounds? 😂
Here John, you're investing in art the wrong way
Their business is a scam
I would have bought the whole company and married LIZ and would have made her the CEO such a cute girl but that's the reason I am not on dragon's den.
Narrator: And now Peter Jones wants to say hi.
Peter Jones: Hi.
Narrator: Peter Jones has just said hi.
Yup the narration for this show is very low level - he isn't really needed for every time the entrepreneur engages with a new dragon but apparently 5 year olds watch this show so for that reason, I'm out!
my favorite is when the show is like
entrepreneur: I’m valuing my business at £1M
narrator: but the entrepreneur has tested the dragons’ patience with his figures, and it’s leading to a _fiery_ exchange
peter: respectfully, I disagree.
Why does Jenny always say "I'm out" after drinking water?
Because she figures it’s the perfect way to make a smooth exit-hydrated and ready to go!
It’s not water it’s vodka to give her the Dutch courage to declare herself out 😂
Gotta love that everyone deflects rather than taking ownership over their own failures.
The art pieces would be such an illiquid investment. Imagine I need to sell it in an emergency and no one will buy it from me! Or maybe no one will ever buy it! I would rather invest in stocks or bonds.
Imagine these guys watching how Bored Ape made millions... doing what they're describing right now
Thats not the same.. you own those versus Fractured Shares
The NFTs are liquid assets and these fractional shares of paintings are illiquid.
NFTs are worse than what they described. At least what they do is someone's real painting, compared to NFTs being copy pasta monkeys
What a load of bollocks
Another pitch where Debra has a different opinion than some of the other dragons, yet pulls up Touker on his comments
In the end the company sold around £500k of Art and the Company was bought by ArtSquare in 2020.....
I think Deborah said it right. They are trying a new model but with a heap of barriers for them to get through. Hopefully somebody will one day.
A marketplace like this does exist now, but with artists you've heard of.
This is a good model for shares.
"I know nothing about art... how can i still be a leach and make money off it?"
Leech *
I think after watching that French woman smile I've decided to set up shop in France
Do people just not get how valuation works🤨
I had to rewind to see if the big lad said anything at all the other two were so passionate. They almost seemed like they were ready for a scrap by the end of it.
You communicated what you do. It's just that what you do is dumb. And with that evaluation? It's like you wanted Peter to be angry with you.
@@FlynnWolf17 My evaluation of your comment is that you think you said “valuation”. ;)
@@canag0dwe know what they meant it's not a big deal
I am surprised NFTs hasn’t been mentioned.
I think their business was eventually sold to some scam/NFT business
Timeshare comes to mind in who trained them lol
what's Deborah's problem with Toukar. She is always giving the weird side eyes.
@@Funky.Sabbath The miracle of editing.
debbie hates him to the bone
just because you called her Debbie, she is out
I can't believe it! Jenny's OUT! lol
NFT Bros need to watch this
Does Touker get any investments 😮
Touker is talking rubbish here. Art is only worth what someone is willing to pat for it. Nothing needs authentication. A poor unknown artist can paint something that someone will pay 1 million pounds for. Debra was correct
Maybe, but I guess there aspects of art that need expertise, for example art historians.
“We’re normalising money laundering” fixed it for you bbc
Is this not Masterworks?
Yeah, I thought that too
Not sure might wanna ask someone more knowledgeable in this sector than me
I wish they’d bring back the old music the newer one is rubbish
Masterworks says hi.
I'm going to go with no
Lise is a definite cutie 🎉
Jenny was out before in
Admin, there's too much milk already. When will there be new contents?
Just got here, but guess Jennys out?
be selling paint brushes next...
Ethereum 🎉
Stop changing camera angles every 2 seconds it is impossible to watch!
Well i agree with Peter Jones and Touker and to simply put it in proper sense i agree basically said that you are thieves & you are stealing people's money 😢 and you don't even have a clue what you are doing. 😂
Jenny the dragon 😊
Yeah to be truthful you are “thieves”
Chancers
Can somebody just tell the guy in the middle to stop nodding his Head 🤦
Just to let you know Jenny is out
Dellusional rich kids basically
Lol i can already tell they just a scammer company trying to make quick money and just run of
BULLSHIT Business!💯
Ahahahahahaha 😂
What a load of rubbish these 3 are just trying to scam them.
Art is boring and pointless and for that reason im jenny and out 😂
Boring and pointless? I’d refer to your comment and not Jenny.
New International Version
“Listen to this, you descendants of Jacob, you who are called by the name of Israel and come from the line of Judah, you who take oaths in the name of the LORD and invoke the God of Israel- but not in truth or righteousness-
New Living Translation
“Listen to me, O family of Jacob, you who are called by the name of Israel and born into the family of Judah. Listen, you who take oaths in the name of the LORD and call on the God of Israel. You don’t keep your promises,
Comedy gold 😂😂😂
What a load of old tosh this is man. Think Banksy would be miles better to invest in tbh
Francesco is like a nodding dog, and for that reason, I'm out.
Peter clearly doesn’t know anything about art 😅 partially finished he said to a painting!!!! Hahaha
Confrontational and ill mannered zoomers, offering 2% of their unproven ‘business’, an investors dream!