Help! My car has multiple errors? CAR WIZARD shows how today's cars overreact for minor problems
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Does your car's dash look like a Christmas Tree lit up with several warning lights? Why are they there and what do they mean? The CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ explains a rather new trend in how cars react when some systems have minor malfunctions.
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These kinds of scare tactics make it easier for mechanics to overcharge unwitting customers. Thank you Car Wizzard for pointing this out.
I’d blame the epa over the manufacturer
Yes, perfect opportunity for dealer to make more money on unnecessary repairs
Yes, Kia takes advantage of my mom every time she gets an oil change.
Bad mechanics maybe. Not every Mechanic is like that.
Absolutely. I try to charge the customer the most I can.
"Find a mechanic that you trust, and stick with him." Well I don't know if I fully trust me, but the price is right.
Know him? Of course I do, Hes me!
hell yea buddy same here
👍
After seeing my oil filter never got changed after a ‘lube ‘n run’ I won’t even let them do that…have always done it myself b/c I don’t trust people. Why don’t I trust people? B/C people.
My mechanic is a bumbling idiot that breaks more than he fixes.
Yep, it's me.
My wife freaked out when her Jetta lit up every dash light and it was just a wheel speed sensor. Ridiculous 😂
if you own a vw you gotta own a code reader to clear the dash
Same thing happened on my VW CC. Wheel speed sensor went out and the whole dash lit up. Had an honest mechanic, fortunately.
@@imchris5000 we bought the car with 38k on the clock. In three years we've gotten to 145k and honestly those are the only lights we've ever gotten. I gotta say the ea888 gen 3 1.8 is superior to almost all vw engines in reliability. I have been very pleased with the oil change, spark plugs, brakes type of regular maintenance with no major issues. Not even a timing code yet. Which I find insane because my 2011 cc jumped time after the balance shaft snapped and the 2005 Passat I had jumped 3 teeth on 2 separate engines lol.
I have 142k on my 2010 Jetta I have no dash lights on
@@grabsme I have a 2015 tdi jetta really vw makes pretty good engines as long as you do the timing and water pump every 90k its the automatic transmission they use that will rob you blind
"crocks on because I don't care." 🤣🤟🏻
Love it.
I used to be a field damage appraiser in the insurance industry. More than once I entered a wrecked Outback double-checking my file notes to see how many occupants died. Just like the commercial, “they walked away!” I was absolutely impressed at the structural rigidity of Subaru’s use of high strength steel and safety cage when I learned nobody succumbed due to injuries.
My sister in law had a 2011 and pulled RIGHT out in front of a car 90* to her right at a bad intersection. Sun was in her eyes and the other car t-boned her at every bit of 55 mp/h. They ended up in the hospital as the striking car. My sis was able to still open her door and get out. I could still open and shut all but the PS front door (impact area) and the glove box still opened and closed. They’re engineering safety into these from the inside-out!!
More often than not, on a late model Subaru, in a collision, it's the OTHER vehicle that got hit that's going to be in real trouble.
Check engine light came on in my 2005 Tahoe at 140,000 miles
At 260,000 miles that light is still functioning. GM quality son.
😂😂😂
The most reliable part of any GM! The check engine light!
😂
Engine was still there, right?
Engine checked
@@Torsee 👏👏👏
Same story with my 03 corolla been on since 130k now 240k lol. Evap bs but I dont have emmision testing 😁
GM trucks are very good vehicles
Be honest to a customer like that and you have one for life🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I love that your shady mechanic character starts every sentence with "bro"
In Texas during the summer, a car turning off A/C is a declaration of war. Might be time to sue automakers for producing cars that "make terroristic threats."
Don't sure them. Want to get their attention? Go to their HQ and sabotage the air conditioner!
I love my older Grand Cherokees. This makes me want to be even more vigilant on maintaining my '02 Overland edition!
I love my BRZ. It's super simple and easy to work on. Not 9372837498 computers that can cause a million problems.
Me too! I have a '98 Dak I don't want o get rid of, but when it's time comes I am going to find my list I have been keeping of Wizard and a few other mechanics in forum's advice and try to find an older vehicle in good shape rather than go too new.
I'm keeping my 1989 F150 (bought new in 89) with the 300 six, 5 speed, 2 dr, shortbed and its got zero rust, lived in Georgia it's entire life.. Soon I'm going to do a major mechnical refresh since its got so many miles and keep using it as my backup vehicle.
I just bought an '04 WJ with the I6. I can understand why Weeeezard recommends these.
When I lived in Colorado I had a Opel 1900 wagon.
I moved to Denver in October and everyone told me to get rid of my car before winter and get something with four or all wheel drive or I would be stranded until spring.
I put a set of snow tires on it and I practically had a snowmobile.
Never got stuck.
I had the same experience! I've got a Seat Cordoba 1.4L, put 13'' snow tires on that bad boy in 2 feet of snow--what snow?!
Ford Panther with a *full set* of Blizzaks is as good as a WRC racer. Front engine + rear drive beats a Status Urban mall terrain Vehicle with "all weather" "tires" up an icy hill every time!
It's nice to hear a good mechanic say, "we don't many Subarus in the shop". I'm on my second Outback, first one had 270,00 miles on it with no problems. And yes Wizard, Subaru did fix the head gasket issues a while ago. Keep up the excellent videos, you help a lot of people from getting hosed when they take their vehicles in for mechanical work. Thank you for your awesome insight.
I have my own scanner and do a lot of my own repairs. Yup the lights scare the $$ out of your wallet or purse 👛. Having an honest mechanic like Car Wizard is RARE
Please do a video on ‘how to find a Car Wizard near you’.
Great idea
Man thats going to be diffcult, you'd be better off trying to find a needle in a haystack...
IMO, this is not to scare you to fix only. It is to drive you to the stealership and charge you for stuff you don't need. Wizard is honest and will charge for what's needed, unfortunately he is not the norm.
Nope I’d blame the epa
@@flight2k5 EPA regulations are way older than this trend. They were in place on the comparison Wizard made. This is a recent move from the car companies.
@@cs_yt No, it's not. What do you think an idiot light is, and how long do you think they've been around? What the wiz is saying isn't entirely true, it's just gotten worse.
@@cs_yt That's not true. Warning lights have been connected to unrelated things for many decades.
@@spamfried894 lost all abs and power reduced, back fired and sputtered on 08 CTS because my intake boot vaccum hose wasnt fully snapped in, took 30 miles to occur to. Glad I checked that first since I remembered I did the air filter recently. Just stupid it over reacted that badly.
From the West to the East Omega will always be the best
I can see many shops charging 10-15 times more to fix this than it actually cost
Wizard, what about opening a trade school to teach the next generation about good mechanics practices?
You have very good teaching abilities.
Yeah, ASE certification doesn't mean much these days.
I love that we adopted OBD and OBD2 to have universal diagnostic capabilities rather than proprietary connectors pre-OBD, yet manufacturers still find ways to make minor problems seem so severe the customer almost feels that they HAVE to bring it to a dealership
I'm a simple man.
When I see the same model car as mine on a cover of a car wizard video.
I watch and hope he has good things to say and nothing bad.
My '17 Forester XT recently did the same. Had a slight misfire one morning, and it shut off cruise control, stability control, sport settings, and hill start assist. Stupidly annoying.
I own a 2018 Fozzy XT. That hasn't happened to me yet, but I'll watch out for it, if it ever does.
My 08 outback does that occasionally in the cold i had it check before and they told me everything was okay and just reset it… now i keep an obd in my trunk for the rare times the cold misfires and locks my system up
@@dramalifeny both my 97 Miata and 01' civic never misfire when cold. A new vehicle should not be misfiring.
You know what’s more annoying? People driving around with cars polluting more then they need too. I applaud manufacturers for doing this.
@@dramalifeny no car should misfire when it’s cold if it’s not broken somehow or somewhere,
BMW car: *glove box bulb out*
also BMW car: _refuses to start_
BMW shop: "that'll be $2,700 to fix"
But it *costs* $2,700 to replace the glove box bulb on BMWs!!!
I had a bad ground strap on a BMW 528xi. It took out the starter and the immobilizer computer.
$1900.
I think disabling AC when engine missfires make sense because load from ac compressor + misfire prone to more prabobilty to engine stall at idle. I saw one car when detect disconnected MAP sensor it not allow to run ac compressor below 2000rpm
I had a rodent chew through the fuel line on my 2011 Subaru Outback and it set off every light in the dash and set off hundreds of different errors on the OBD2 sensor. The first mechanic I went to thought it was the computer dying due to the sheer number of errors on the sensor and sent me to the Subaru dealership who were thankfully honest enough to diagnose the fuel line problem and not charge me for installing a new computer which would have cost like $3,000.
My family has been going to the same local auto shop for the past 35 years. Having that long term relationship with the folks there has made getting any work done easy and honest. They've saved us untold amounts in sparing us unnecessary repairs.
These car design tactics disgust me right when I am thinking of buying a replacement car.
My newest vehicle is 2010. Don't know what I'm going to do if I ever have to buy anything new.
They got way too complicated and proprietary. Even if you knew how to do things yourself, they removed the ability to drain things and started using very specialized tools. I bought a Tesla and it needs nothing, have 72k miles already, it's been perfect. I'm not going back to gas.
@@gregambrose2566 my newest is 2004. Newest in our family was 2013 and it had nothing but issue after issue. Then again it was a Ford Escape lol
1000 miles away from home last year, my 2015 Accord dashboard lit up - abs, traction control, power steering, and TPMS. Nobody could figure out the problem so I drove it home like that (through Chattanooga…in the dark….in the rain….). Got home and researched the issue………and it ended up being a rear wheel bearing. Crazy.
Aye, a fellow Chattanoogan! That's a pretty wild situation. I drive a slightly older car (2006), the only time a check engine light came on was when the battery crapped itself. I've never had to slam it for 1000 miles like that, props to you! I'd be nervous as hell the whole drive home.
Thanks for that cuz I have a 2015 accord exl v6. Ill definately remember your post.
surprised the bearing wasnt making noise
To clear up a few things, I don’t live in Chattanooga, we were driving through on the way home from South Dakota to Florida (through St. Louis and Chattanooga), but the weather sure made me nervous with all the lights! The bearing did make noise, on the last 100 miles or so of the trip, but way after the dashboard lights. My Accord is an EX 4 cylinder, but I have seen multiple postings on the Honda boards for different models with the same symptoms and resolution.
@@kevinschiffer1413 thats crazy the dash would light up before the audible grinding could be heard.
The ride height sensor is also for the HID headlight auto leveling system as well.
Thank you Car Wizard, Having a voice for working with morals and a conscience in the automotive technician field is getting rarer and rarer. I hope that you don't mind that I show this to my class today as a reminder of how to serve customers. Have a good rest of your week.
The Wizard has to be the most laid back mechanic on the the planet.
Yep, I've got a 2011 Outback non-PZEV and one fault code will set off multiple warnings and disable cruise control. I have a soft spot for those early Outback Tourings (2017), especially in Lapis Blue Pearl! Thanks for the video, Wizard!
The ride height sensor is actually just for the auto-leveling HID headlights. The models with halogen headlights don't have ride height sensors. It doesn't have anything to do with traction control.
In regards to head gasket issues: this was primarily the naturally aspirated EJ25 (2.5 L) which was used up to the 2012 model year. The FB series started replacing the EJ in the 2011 model year. The FB, FA and EZ (6 cylinder) engines do not have head gasket issues. You can tell the FB and FA apart from the EJ by the oil filter located on top and metal timing chain cover (instead of plastic timing belt cover).
Super helpful details here - thank you kindly for that👍🏻
Lapis Blue Pearl is beautiful! I'd almost buy one for the color. The FB engines don't have the head gasket issue anymore but the cam carriers loooove to leak and that's another engine out job and tend to burn oil worse than the older engines. The 3.6 is a nice engine but, like every other Subaru, also loves to leak and we've even done a few head gasket jobs on those. And if you have a 3leaker (liter) in a Tribeca run! Not enough engine for that car, 160-180k miles and the repairs it needs match the value of the car.
@@406Steven Agreed. Do not buy any Tribeca crossover, either engine.
@@406Steven Wow, good to know thanks for that info as well. Cheers
I thought most emission control systems were warrantied for 10 years? So wouldn't the Subaru dealership repair this for free?
Happy to see a video of a late model Outback. My wife and I replaced our 2011 Outback with a 2018 Outback a little over a month ago and we are very happy with it. If the dashboard goes haywire like this one did we'll know not to panic. The new car is under warranty so I won't mind going back to the dealer, but once it has expired we have a mechanic who we trust and proven over and over again they are honest and fair.
Motorist - "I REFUSE to change my car's oil..." Vehicle: "Oh yeah... *shuts off AC when it's boiling hot outside* " Motorist - "Where's that Jiffy Lube..."
Lol. But seriously, do NOT go to Jiffy Lube.
@@XvS6-Lemaza Not an endorsement of Jiffy Lube. Was implying what a lazy motorist would do to change their oil without actually getting their own hands dirty.
@@houseofno Yeah Jiffy lube might send you out with no oil at all:
ua-cam.com/video/Ty0a6c_b82k/v-deo.html
@@houseofno You should perform dental surgery on yourself too, not like these damn millenials going to the dentist and shiet.
@hydorah
Or they just might drain the cvt transmission fluid and overfill the crankcase... I was a subaru advisor for several years. We loved jiffy lube because replacing those transmissions were big paydays for us.
Have an Outback from this same generation and looking at forums it's a frequent occurrence to see a question along the lines of "hey all of these dash lights have come on, has anybody else experienced this?" it's usually the same result as the car wizard mentions, something simple related to emissions (I've had it happen to me, it was a gas cap not properly tightened :D, scared the crap out of me too but at least I'm still under warranty so that's peace of mind haha).
Happy to hear this generation of OBs get the Car Wizzard seal of approval.
I have been asking myself this very question the past 5 years. The 2007 Subaru Legacy shut down traction and cruise, and have the lights blink.
Needless to say I enjoyed the disco and kept driving until it failed inspection for having one code, EGR valve.
After a visit at the shop she was happy for some time before the disco stated showing up now and then.
Managed to inspect it on a good day, and got a new code, Oxygen sensor heater.
What are you talking about
You are awesome, Wizard. Once again, you are helping all of us to be informed customers for our mechanics/shops. I guess you can count the brand you hate, BMW, as one that does not scare you with a bunch of warning lights for emissions issues. When I had a bad catalytic converter that was the result of a bad fuel injector, I only got a check engine light. Still was good to be under warranty for that one.
Thank you for your valuable insights!! A physical diagnosis is required to isolate the actual fault/faults! Nice work there maestro wizard!! Perhaps advise if trying to top up tank excessively could contribute to the problem in the first place.
The Silverado shutting off the AC for a misfire is understandable though. If you have an intermittent misfire it may increase under load so killing an accessory could be aiding you in getting home or avoiding engine or catalytic convertor damage.
Kindof I guess I could see that being a valid reason. One that does make total sense though is when it shuts off the 'Stabilitrak' because the engine can't output stable power to work the Traction Control properly.
Hell yeah, Croc Wizard. Keep cranking the quality content 👊
Subaru engineer: Lets make it steer into the center divider with a P0420 code. That ought to get their attention.
Nope I’d blame the epa
Isn't that already part of the 'Pedestrian Avoidance System'?
@@flight2k5 not the head of the snake.
P420... On my Tundra, that means time to go blow out the cats at high speeds!
I have a P0420 code I have been fighting with my 2008 GS350. So annoying
Thanks, Wizard, much appreciated as always. On the other hand: If you would start taking advantage of your customers you could buy a bigger yacht eventually.😁
*cough*Hoovie*cough*
It also can have a side effect with new customers where they tell you “X” light is on, you diagnose and explain the problem is “Y” and if they aren’t familiar, they’ll think it’s a scam too. Trust is key with new stuff for sure. Another good one, professor
Love your videos, Car Wizard! Keep up the good work!
Great video as usual. More often than not, when your dash lights up like a Christmas tree start with the alternator. All your systems draw power, when they don’t get the proper voltage they freak out.
I'm going to say that if my engine is misfiring, I'd rather get it serviced sooner than later. That raw fuel is going to cook my catalitic converter and those things are EXPENSIVE!
Meh, if you live in a state with no inspections just cut that bish out and keep on rolling.
@@TheCobruhAlienat0r It’s illegal to do that under federal law. The only exception to the law is that the vehicle is going to be scrapped or be used for off road/competition use only.
Scare tactics that force you to the dealer's service department where they can overcharge you for parts and service you may not really need. The Toyota air bag recall did that to me. The dealer tried to convince me I needed all sorts of work that I didn't on my '03 Corolla.
Car Wizard saying "bro" makes me laugh
2011 outback had multiple lights come on all at once, some blinking, some steady. Owners manual said basically “stop driving, tow to dealer immediately”. I didn’t and the sky didn’t fall...faulty fuel pressure sender IIRC.
Honestly when I see people damage their Toyotas by being careless in Maintenance, I wouldn't mind programming scare tactics
There are better ways to handle it..
In some areas of the country having the AC turn off could end up being a health hazard. You're driving through Phoenix and in the summertime and it's 117 Fahrenheit and having the AC shut off because of a minor misfire or EVAP code is a horrible idea.
They need to find some way to scare you to get to the dealer but not in danger you at the same time.
Perhaps an annoying chime or buzzer that you can't turn off.
@@kens97sto171 See, that's what I meant. A misfire means unburnt fuel which washes the oil Film on cylinder Walls and Lands in the catalytic converter and heats it up. Later people blame it on the manufacturer, cause no one wants to blame himself.
@@st_us
Absolutely true. But there needs to be some kind of balance between the manufacturer trying to get it repaired as quickly as possible with an effective warning. And going way overboard by turning the air conditioning off or scaring the shit out of people. Imagine driving down the road in a minor misfire occurs that you didn't even feel but all of a sudden every fucking light on the dash pops on. So you rapidly pull over on the side of the road and cause an accident, or while you're sitting on the side of the road someone hits your car. There is some kind of balance that needs to be found. So that things get repaired in a timely fashion but also don't go overboard.
And as I also said things like this are what will be the nail in the coffin for internal combustion. Eventually people are going to get sick of dealing with these minor issues that end up costing them big bucks at repair shops or dealerships. And when that next electric vehicle becomes affordable they're going to be all over it. Thinking that that is going to solve all problems. And it won't let your vehicles are complicated also just because they don't have internal combustion engines doesn't mean they don't have a lot of secondary support systems. However there won't be this emissions compliance nonsense and warning lights are likely only to go on when there is something that's actually important regarding the vehicle. Like a low coolant sensor or an overheat sensor etc
@@kens97sto171 stop it, this is the internet, you're not allowed to make sense here.
good thing i don't have to worry about anything light related with my car it is a 2005 pontiac vibe front wheel drive 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine metallic grey we got only one problem bad fuel injector on cylinder 1 and only one light no multiple lights and shes getting checked out tomarrow by my mechanic at auto concepts love him hes great about he treats his costumers :3
A friend works at a Mazda and Subaru dealership. In his words Subarus are junk compared to the Mazda’s. A lot of oil leaks fixed under warranty.
Mazda over Subaru any day, they’re my second favorite brand after Toyota (I’m a Japanese car fanatic, as well as an anime enthusiast ) 😂.
If it gets fixed, does it matter?
That head gasket issue was up until late 2000s. Had an 09 with 75k miles that had it- turned me off future subarus for life
Interestingly it had (at least partially) to do with the way coolant sat in the boxer heads with the engine off causing electrolytic corrosion. Part of the solution was better grounding of the engine components.
I'm forever grateful you dressed for us.
Nice anology, back pain and cancer, just what we need in a UA-cam car video. Cheered me up no end.
Feel better.
Bad analogy Wizard. Cancer versus a car with control modules shut down.
Great video Wizard! I recently had a problem with my 2016 Honda Pilot. Driving home every system warning on the dash lit up (powertrain, traction control, emissions, brake failure, towing assist!) , power was reduced, and I was left to limp off the highway. When the mechanics checked it out, it was a cam sensor that went bad (out of spec camshaft had play that damaged the sensor). So after seeing this video I now know all those lights were literally there to "get my attention". Great job Sir!
I remember reading somewhere (in the late 70's), a note that said to start with the lowest code number first. Perhaps they had a hierarchy built in back in the day when engineers were nice.
I bought a 2021 Subaru Outback in May, so I've been meaning to watch this. Luckily I did, so thanks for the head's up for mechanically-inclined people like myself! I went to school to be an auto tech, but didn't pursue it as a career; I at least know what's going on. My mechanic isn't cheap, but they've never wrong me yet (may it stay that way.)
As always, very informative!!! Thanks.
Have you ever done a video re: Mode 6 codes with an OBD2 reader?
I had a vehicle a few years back that hadn’t had any issue prior, but then suddenly one day lit up like a Christmas tree. It totally freaked me out. My mechanic suggested a $10 replacement gas cap first, and sure enough, that fixed everything.
my daugher loves the crocs.
need some for myself. :-)
greetings from germany!
WIZARD, NICE TO KNOW, NEVER DEALED WITH A CAR 2016 AND UP. NOW I KNOW NOT TO WAST MY MONEY ON A NEWER CAR. AND ALL THAT ABOUT A BLAST OF CHECK ENGINE LIGHTS TO GET YOU INTO THE RIP OFF DEALER. ANYWAY i'll stick to the 2013 and older cars. And fix them myself. As I have been doing for 60 years. Again thanks car WIZARD, really like your entertaining show..!
I thought it was bad enough that my 2010 rav4 shuts off the traction system whenever there's an engine code, even for a dirty map sensor
Count your blessings. I hear the EPA is going to hire Gilbert Gottfried to record his voice so the warning lights can constantly talk at you.
@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 I think it would be much better if they just sampled Grandpa Simpson’s ‘EEEEEPPPAAAAAA’ cry from the Simpson’s movie.
It sounds like, when there's an engine fault, they're trying to ensure you oversteer into a tree, forcing you to come back to the dealer and buy another deathtrap, err, car I mean.
Followed your advice and bought a Toyota pickup. I love it! Thanks Wizard!
What a rotten car world. I prefer my old lotus
In training classes pre-virus we learned about coming vehicle warning systems. Due to emissions regulations and federal mandates cars will give warnings at different levels, depending on the severity. If it’s an emissions issue, newer cars will give a light at first, then a blinking light, then if the vehicle keeps being driven without repairs a speed reduced soon warning, then a speed reduction, then a 5 mph maximum speed.
This will be across all manufacturers, since it’s mandated and out of their hands.
It won’t be long before older cars are not legal on public roads and will be for show and museum display only.
From the mouth of a manufacturer engineer.
Based on the Wizards personal taste in cars I would say he definitely has a Broken Eye Sight Unit.
I hate the eyesight system, especially the system in the 15-17 Outback. Wife and I replaced our 16 OB with a manual Crosstrek. I got tired of the electric steering fighting me because the car thought that the tar sealant lines in the road were the lines, followed by the insistent dinging etc while driving.
Oh, and the $1400 windshield replacement because "the eyesight system needs calibration".
"So fresh, so clean, so good lookin'!" Needs to be part of your logo
Car Wizard, can you do a video on the most important tools a person should buy to work on their own car for $100 or $200.... For any large problem people are better to take their car to a mechanic but things like spark plugs or brake pads what tools will we need for most cars. Love the show!
When everything is fine, the next minute you have 16 problems. You really have one problem. This is the EPA.
this happened to my mothers 2017 Subaru outback but it was because the battery was not holding enough charge and all the lights came on. Such a disappointment to see newer cars headed this way in terms of repair and diagnosis.
This vid makes me thankful my car just has the one 'check engine' light, basic and simple
Good for YOU Car Wizard! I'm impressed with your Honesty... 👍 Being a Fleet tech since the 70's been there discovered that with Multiple Makes
The ride height sensor in the rear is actually for the headlight leveling system for the HIDs.
I lease my cars. Use and turn in the keys at the end of lease. If anything goes wrong, I give the dealer the key and get a loaner. I don't have patience, time or luxury of trying to find an honest mechanic. There are honest mechanics, but I have yet to find one.
You must have the luxury of money.
Wonder if the Wizard found any "Vape" materials in this Subaru🙄
And the owner's name is "Chad" or "Brad". lol
@@21Piloteer haha 🤣
Where is the ski rack with no skies too🤔 he he
Or golden retriever hair.
My wife's Jerp Patriot had a coil fail 3 lights on the dash and limp mode. You are so correct about the engineers yo get you in to get the car fixed. Great video Wizard
This is the first time I disagree with The Wizard. Subarus are not good cars. My company has a fleet of 20+ Foresters and Outbacks. Both 4 and 6 cylinder. They are terrible quality vehicles that are hard to keep on the road. We used crown vics and explorers for years and many of those had 300,000 or more miles on them. Then our company was bought by a huge company in 2012. Come to find out the CEO owns a subaru dealership. So naturally he gets a kick back and we are forced to drive these pieces of trash. They get horrible gas mileage12-14mpg (my explorer got 17-19). They have no power. Most of us fear for our life getting on the interstate. Each oil change we find the Subarus are down 1-2 quart of oil. The AC goes out in them all the time. The interior creaks, the body panels are worse than 1st gen Tesla. I have had recalls show up in the dozens in my mail box. Please do not buy a Subaru. Toyota should be ashamed to own this company.
Edit: 3 of the last 4 subarus we got in had to go back to the dealer to have the back wiring harness replaced. The rear windows stopped working day after delivery.
You should write fiction for a living.
No they are not good cars. Neither is Hyundai and Kia.
Thank you for the heads up Wizard!!! -2017 Subaru Legacy Limited 2.5 owner.
As news cars become more “sophisticated”, I love my 02 Cummins more and more.
my mother had a similar situation happen on her 2013 Outback wagon as a matter of fact. One day when she was driving home from work, the dash lit up like a christmas tree and she brought it to the dealership and they did find vacuum leaks coming from the fuel filler neck going to the gas tank, so we did have them replace that. But that didn't fix the underlying issue and she had to bring it back a few times. Now thankfully, they didn't charge her for each subsequent visit since they weren't successful the previous times but in the end, it was a bad MAF sensor that triggered a whole bunch of dash lights. They ended up replacing that for free since they already charged her for the vacuum leak repairs that they found earlier, so I will give them credit that they didn't take total advantage of her or anything crazy like that, but I certainly have seen and experienced these scenarios go a lot worse. So I called and spoke to the dealership about the car and they discussed with me all the things that they had found and what was going on, and everything that they said made perfect sense, and she had a car to drive in the interim while her car was at the dealership. Mind you that this happened in the midst of the pandemic when everything was taking at least a week to ship across country from the west coast, and still is to this day in most cases. But anyways, it sounded to me like they were pretty honest with us about everything and I didn't have any reasons to suspect that they were hiding anything from us so in the end all worked out well, thank goodness!
Car Wizard, it looks more like a 2017-2019 Ford escape.
I wish I live near the Car Wizard when it comes to car problems!
Scare tactics about everything is all we've had since the Chinavirus invasion.
Confirmed what I suspected about the current design of these warning systems. Thank you and I subscribed.
gm is now forcing u to put the seatbelt on to shift out of park... Thai is on Lol new 2021 gm trucks... like Colorado and Silverado s... not sure about the 2020 Chevy Trax.... I deal with these vehicles at my job.. AutoZone delivery driver
It shuts down key functions of the vehicle when a small part fails that are nowhere related to the actual problem, feels like you don’t own the car and are controlled by the manufacturer that’s not ok 🙄
Is it actually possible for an American to use the word "handy" without adding "dandy" to the end??
Wizard, you are absolutely right about newer cars. They try to make it impossible for an average person to fix them. I myself have an 08 Aveo that hasn’t been on the road in 2 years just because I replaced the throttle body and now it needs the throttle learning reset. Simple job just takes a few minutes. But I can’t afford the tool to do it, and can’t afford the high dealership repair prices either. So for now it sits in the garage.
I would not buy a newer Subaru in general, especially the ones with the CVT transmission. I would buy a newer Mazda, instead.
Thank you! Yes, this happened to me with my 2016 Subaru Forester. Luckily, my import specialist is an honest person like you.
Subaru is Garbage, look at the engine recalls for those crap years.
Hyundai and Kia are too. They are just as bad if not worse. Nissans are bad too except for their pickups and sports cars. My advice: don’t buy any Hyundai or Kia especially the ones that have the four cylinder engines. Hyundai and Kia are known to deny warranty claims on blown engines regardless of maintenance.
This guy is smooth!!!!👩🔧
This is the “dealer okie doke”.
Your 4 YEAR OLD car has a problem. You, not trusting regular shops - or still having a warranty - take it to the dealer.
They “check it out”. If it is under warranty, they fix it, but bill overtime so they get paid more by the company.
If you THINK you have a warranty, they’ll tell you that you DON’T (anymore) because of mileage or age. Or that it doesn’t cover the issue(s).
Then, they’ll tell you they can fix it, but it’s gonna cost (A LOT). And “we’ve had plenty of these newer cars do this.”
They’ll suggest getting a “new” car because it’s only going to get worse over time. “It’ll cost $2000-$3000 to fix all these issues. You could use that as a down payment on a NEW one! NEW warranty, No problems.”
When it was only $60 to fix the issue.
Dealer Okie doke
WOW, you don't know much about the car industry, do you? Doesn't work that way. The factory produces "book times" for ALL repairs. They don't pay "overtime." If the service manual indicates a job takes three hours, the tech has three hours to fix it. PERIOD. If they fix it in less than three hours, the service center is reimbursed by the factory. The difference between what the factory reimburses them for and what it actually cost the service center to repair it is profit. If it takes more than three hours, the dealership or service center LOSES money because the factory won't pay more than the book value for the repair.
The factory doesn't pay "overtime" for warranty work.
Stop believing everything you read on the internet.
That skid plate protects my fluid film application from washing off. I have a crosstrek and I treat it with fluid film every year. It also protects the underneath but getting the paint beat off with that winter road grime
A dealer would take you for a ride and take advantage of you.
I own a 2014 Outback with the 2.5 L with at the time 135,000 miles. While on a road trip out west, in the middle of Montana (with no cell service), the check engine light came on, the brake light started flashing and the cruise control light also started flashing. This scared the hell out of us since we were in the middle of nowhere. The owners manual was nothing but doom and gloom. "Pull over as soon as possible and call roadside assistance". After a few hundred miles extra of driving these lights turned off. They do turn on again sometimes, but will eventually turn back off. What confused me at the time about the lights is that they are all 3 separate systems that have nothing to do with each other. Thank you for bringing up this issue with the (newer) Subaru's!
It is better that a dash overreacts than that it would UNDER react
Not when it shuts off your AC on a hot day. And refuses to give it back to you until an emissions error is fixed.
It’s this type of mindset that gets us exactly where we r going..Full automotive tyranny..
@@CarWizard Well yes that sounds ridiculous! I would however rather have a couple more lights on to be safe then no lights at all. But yes your car should not hold its features hostage fo r no reason!
Than,not then.
@@Grunt49 thanks hehe
Kinda glad I sold my 2017 Civic Si in favor of a 2000 K3500 crew cab, not sure if I want newer rigs again after watching this and the story about the AC not working in your truck, just because of a bad coil. Thanks for sharing Wizards, always lots of useful information you folks share with us.
I hate the CVT transmissions of this Outbacks...sry but they suck.
Agree wish they came with 6-MT option then I’d consider one!
@@JJPMustang Yes , it's not like they don't have a manual,they have it in the Crosstrek.
I don't mind my CVT. But I drive conservatively.
Previous gen of outback as the one in the video CVT was unreliable but the 2015+ outbacks seem to be doing fine.
Honda HRV Diesel - split in the hose between the MAF and the engine
Result was slam into limp mode, dash lit up like a christmas tree, and a warning that my brakes had failed.
Temporary repair - gaffer tape and a cable tie
Permenant repair - 5 minutes to replace the hose
Thank the automotive gods for the internet