Truth be told, I believe the clubworld is miles better than the First, having experienced both severally for years. 😄. Clubworld my choice above any other business class product, even first class since year 2000
@@orighomisandediare4990 I guess it depends on your priorities, personal service and more luxurious soft product edges First for me. I can make up the difference in price by LPGS consumption alone! 😂
@@poppyland74 it’s not though, I fly CS all the time and first even without the door is more private than CS. There’s only 8 people in first compared with 32+ in CS so the cabin is busier etc
I find it super weird that BA close off you you comments on many initial threads. A decent company should be proud to open up to comments, put a couple of staff on it even. ... or just put staff on telephones to let folk know where to start luggage tracking.
I have yet to find a video of Maren enjoying either business or first-class. It would be nice to see how she enjoys the pampering and space of the larger and more comfortable surroundings. Have I just missed it? Love your channel.
I think Maren would be happy sitting on a 5 gallon bucket in the lavatory - she is always a great addition to these comparisons. Interesting to see the minimal difference between First and Business - not sure that First is worth the additional costs. Great job as always!
Great to see this report back again after 3 years . Always love the content you guys put out especially a review like this. The Concorde lounge looks amazing hopefully one day i will get to try it out. Ba crew are always incredibly friendly and the service is great can’t go wrong
I'm due to fly BA London Heathrow to Miami next week on the 777, am definitely going to look into upgrading to business class, looks as good, if not better than first. Thanks for the fun video! 🤗
Great content thats always fun to watch. Would love to see you guys do some airlines down here in the southern hemisphere like Qantas and Air New Zealand.
I just tried BA's new club world seats just three days ago. They were really comfy, especially when our flight was delayed for four hours then postponed for a day due to engine issues and the crew timing out.
Concorde room is lovely, the addition of sleep pods is a major bonus. The rest of the lounges do the job but aren't worth extending your layover for IMHO. Still, if you get the chance, go for it!
Having flown in the new club suite, I am so surprised that the first suite has not been updated in such a long time. I know that BA are doing away with 1st on a lot of aircraft now, with the inevitability that this will probably only remain on a few routes. They need to differentiate and keep a top class 1st suite, but it is honestly not worth the upgraded price to business with the new suite. Great job guys as ever. Xx
Would love for you guys to try the Qantas LHR - PER in business, premium economy and economy on the Dreamliner. See how you guys would go for 18 hours especially whoever is in economy.
I've watched a number of different channels that review various airlines business classes/classes in general and this seems to be one of the few channels praising them, yes BA isn't the on the level of Qatar or Emirates presentation wise and to be honest other reviewers look down on BA almost snob like but I recently flew BA to Tampa from Gatwick and had no issues in economy, almost the exact same experience as shown in this video. I did note that this flight had the old style IFE screen in economy/premium economy, whereas my flight to Tampa has the new tablets installed making it look much more sleek.
I love these videos can you do ANA by any chance. Japan is now open soo I think it would be nice to see. Also you can use virgin miles.! Thanks always for making my day.
Thanks for the great reviews! I would love ask that three of you review and share an economy row together! There is always an open seat next to you when anyone is in economy and that is not realistic for those of us that fly all the time.
The BA business lounges at Heathrow and Gatwick are so disappointing! Especially the food. We are now gold members now so we will have to see what the lounge is like at Gatwick November 23rd
I love your critiques of the different fancy/expensive lounges at your age 😂 Just enjoy that you get to be there at all! I’m 50 and psyched about flying Premium Economy! Most of us could only ever hope to be able to enjoy Business or First class seating and lounges.
I wish you did a meet up in DC! I live here and am a huge fan of your channel. And I just took this flight in August (premium economy) from LHR to IAD.
I’ll tell you what. Cannot see the difference between business and first. I actually think business is even better (have flown them both myself and First is just not worth the money compared to Business). Amazing video as always! 😊
BA first really needs a hard product overhaul, the new club suites have made their business class great, but first still lags behind. The First soft product is great on BA though, so it really is just the hard product which needs changing
BA premium economy based on all the videos I've seen looks to be very good. Probably in the top 5. They can definitely step it up a little bit by allowing access to their lounges even if its a paid option.
I knew I'd watched too many of these videos when someone pressed the call button on a recent flight and my brain instantly went 'it's time for the call bell challenge'!
flew BA first on the a380 pre-pandemic. what an amazing experience! this video doesn't show it but the first class seat is at least 25% larger than the business class pod. also, the full tea experience is just next level!
25% larger than the new club suite? Would you say First (old product) was worth it over the new club suite? I am booked on a club suite but can upgrade to first (old product as in this video) for $788. Not sure which to go for. This is on a 777-200
@@YouProductions1000 depends - I'm an NFL lineman sized guy so every bit of extra space I can get I'll take. I don't drink so that really doesn't mean anything for me but some people love the champagne/ wine selection. When I did it it was only 10k more miles to book than a biz ticket so I did. Would I pay $788 just for the pomp of the tea service? Eh, probably not, but it was a cool once in a lifetime experience. Also I flew on the a380 which is larger than the 777 by a good margin so that may have factored into it as well - you could do cartwheels at the front of that cabin!
@@jimsturt Ah interesting, yeah the A380 is quite a bit bigger. I also don't drink, so that would be wasted on me. You do get the nicer airport experience (separate First wing, Concorde room, etc.), and since i'm traveling with a companion, buddy dining in the First seat (ottoman) is nice. This would also be a once-in-a-lifetime experience, but I could really go either way. Thanks for the reply!
So excited to see this video and the positive reviews, since I will be travelling BA Business Class from YVY to LHR and then Premium Econ back to YVR in November. First overseas flight since the pandemic hit and I can't wait!
I like business more than first class…they are very similar but not in price wise! Just spotted the wash bag that business one made of leather, much better than the first. Tbh, compare with other airline, BA need to do more work on the first class! It just equivalent to VA upper class which VA is lot cheaper. Thanks for the video btw! You guys are amazing.
Nice flight tour gentlemen and Maren. I wish there was a part two to this with D.C. hotels, dining, and activities but maybe next time? Thanks to everyone at team #ThePointsGuyUK for their hard work.
they only do stuff in uk/europe/asia and flights to and from the uk i think, there’s a us version of the same channel just called “The Points Guy” that does US stuff I think
just found your channel and as the av enthusiast I'm gonna say thank you for serving the vlog with fun style and serving many pov in once!!!so happpyyy!
As always great seeing a comparison review between different cabins, especially a four cabin flight. Most of you look so Happy at the start of the video, but Ben is just stood there. Does he think he's to posh to join in, now he's in first class? It's the first time I've seen Maren and she was so bright and bubbly. Hopefully some of her personality with rub off and brighten up Ben.
From recent experience I can say BA premium economy isn't as good as it was five years ago. Specifically on 787's they force the windows dark (on day flights) and try and treat it like a night flight with less service. (Based on flights I've taken from India to London departing at dawn.) Five years ago they constantly checked you had everything you needed and if you wanted anything else. On the last two trips they've utterly failed to respond to the call bell at all. They used to give you a business class main meal too. Either they stopped doing that, or the business meals have gone down hill. Having said that, I'm looking forward to getting silver status by the end of the year so I can use the lounges. One thing about T5. I always go down the extra level and take the walkway/travelators between 5A and 5B/C. It's much more peaceful.
always loved your videos, I’m going to do a timed race and experience next time I go to London, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae to my hotel in London and back by train vs the plane
Hi pointed guys I love this amazing video and I love to see a Cathay Pacific economy class, premium economy, business class. Hope you will be able to do one as I'm big fan of you guys. Thanks Karandeep
BA business class lounges are well below par when you compare to other airlines, They really are so drab and are often so busy you can’t get a seat. Will definitely try the other lounge when I’m next at Heathrow, I hope BA step up and sort out the lounges they are falling behind again.
They are good in certain places, but the main hub of T5 needs more lounges, it's always packed, Galleries First lounge feels more like a paid lounge, ive struggled to even get a seat the last few trips which for anyone is shocking let alone a frequent gold member! BA are way behind still with everything, new club suite is still rare on most flights which is really poor considering they still charge the same for the old product! They could be world leading but are way behind the quality, food and service of Qatar!
If you head to the B lounge without knowing your gate, you can often be left with a 15-minute walk through the underbelly of T5 back to the A gates. The tram cannot take you back to A without taking another stroll through security.
Flown them all apart from first this year. Premium on a flight back from vegas was a decent seat and I slept the whole way home. Did same flight few month later in club suite can’t say I slept any more.
Terrific video (as always). Can't see much benefit of First class over the newer Business class seats - it looked a bit wider, maybe longer but little else, especially considering the price differential. Even the TV screen in First looked to be a very old design. The Concorde lounge is way better than the Galleries (which do look old and tired compared to other airlines "home" lounges).
When he put that pulse point product under his eyes! Nooo. It’s lavender to help you sleep 😂 you do not want that near your eyes! I put it on my temples and under my nose
Nice video! I don’t get how you managed to get for the price you mention. If I look at reward flights they are no where near that cheap. Could you explain how you generated those fares? Cheers
Why does the guy in business always have that gormless look on his face in the thumbnails?🤣
He really needs to cheer up!
😅😅😅😅
@Lee Claxton jean? or someone else
Yeah for sure
Business class looks like a new cabin along with premium economy and economy, where as first class looks like an old cabin
Business class looks better than first class with the sliding door
Truth be told, I believe the clubworld is miles better than the First, having experienced both severally for years. 😄. Clubworld my choice above any other business class product, even first class since year 2000
And ba's business class it not even that good compared to Qatar or Emirates
@@orighomisandediare4990 I guess it depends on your priorities, personal service and more luxurious soft product edges First for me. I can make up the difference in price by LPGS consumption alone! 😂
Totally agree!
you get more privacy in clubworld let me not lie
Is it super weird that the first class seat is LESS private than the business class seat? That's a huge miss!
It’s not though, the first cabin only has 8 seats compared to over 36 in club. The first seat is way more private that CS
@@zoomcctv The point is that there is no privacy screen - hence 'less private'
@@poppyland74 it’s not though, I fly CS all the time and first even without the door is more private than CS. There’s only 8 people in first compared with 32+ in CS so the cabin is busier etc
It's not less private, it's just more socialized 😂 It's a new concept.
I find it super weird that BA close off you you comments on many initial threads.
A decent company should be proud to open up to comments, put a couple of staff on it even. ... or just put staff on telephones to let folk know where to start luggage tracking.
I have yet to find a video of Maren enjoying either business or first-class. It would be nice to see how she enjoys the pampering and space of the larger and more comfortable surroundings. Have I just missed it? Love your channel.
Agree!!
Agree, I also wish they'd put the tallest person in economy on purpose, no point putting the shortest!
Yeah, put the tallest person in economy, and the most perfectionistic in first class.
To be honest Business class seemed way more enticing than First class, privacy , to food , to presentation all seemed better
All classes videos are the way i found out this channel, so happy to see more of this! Great work!
🎉🎉🎉
Oh my days I watch you Vex and these guys....
Did not expect to see you here
Oh hi vex 😂
omg wowie it's vexsg1111!!
I think Maren would be happy sitting on a 5 gallon bucket in the lavatory - she is always a great addition to these comparisons. Interesting to see the minimal difference between First and Business - not sure that First is worth the additional costs. Great job as always!
Omg it’s a video about all the classes in an aircraft! Such fun! 👏🏽
back to our roots!!
@@nickyjkelvin We love to see it ❤
@@nickyjkelvin Always the favorites 👍
Great to see this report back again after 3 years . Always love the content you guys put out especially a review like this. The Concorde lounge looks amazing hopefully one day i will get to try it out. Ba crew are always incredibly friendly and the service is great can’t go wrong
Finally! I’ve been waiting for more videos. Thanks Points Guys UK.
I'm due to fly BA London Heathrow to Miami next week on the 777, am definitely going to look into upgrading to business class, looks as good, if not better than first.
Thanks for the fun video! 🤗
Great content thats always fun to watch. Would love to see you guys do some airlines down here in the southern hemisphere like Qantas and Air New Zealand.
I just tried BA's new club world seats just three days ago. They were really comfy, especially when our flight was delayed for four hours then postponed for a day due to engine issues and the crew timing out.
Concorde room is lovely, the addition of sleep pods is a major bonus. The rest of the lounges do the job but aren't worth extending your layover for IMHO. Still, if you get the chance, go for it!
Really informative and interesting videos! Keep up the good work!
Love the style of your vlogs. Always fun in their presentation. Keep it going all
I was in the B Gates lounge at Heathrow on the 19th of September as per your recommendation! It was much quieter, did not disappoint!
Nick
“Oh lovely cuppa that” got me laughing.
British boy
Great review yet again, love the 4in1 format. Keep at it !
Having flown in the new club suite, I am so surprised that the first suite has not been updated in such a long time. I know that BA are doing away with 1st on a lot of aircraft now, with the inevitability that this will probably only remain on a few routes. They need to differentiate and keep a top class 1st suite, but it is honestly not worth the upgraded price to business with the new suite. Great job guys as ever. Xx
I love these videos and The Points Guy UK. But the audio was all over the place on this video lol. The background music was SO loud sometimes.
Would love for you guys to try the Qantas LHR - PER in business, premium economy and economy on the Dreamliner. See how you guys would go for 18 hours especially whoever is in economy.
I did the lhr - Perth in business it was ok. The seat isn’t very comfy and the Qantas staff are a bit cold. Singapore was way better for that flight
Thank you for sharing this review. Heading across the pond this summer. Cheers!
Agreed, I always check if my flight is from B or C gates. The lounge is sooo much better! and much quieter.
Really good in depth objective review one of the few legacy airlines offering four class product service. Love the "call bell" challenge!
Watched the original one SO many times. This is epic‼️
Great to see this report back again after 3 years! Love your videos as always.
haha, love how this rule still applies here. The more fancy the food, the smaller the portions 🤣
Quality over quantity my man ....
Thanks for this vlog. Everyone have an amazing day! Happy Friday! Ciao.
I've watched a number of different channels that review various airlines business classes/classes in general and this seems to be one of the few channels praising them, yes BA isn't the on the level of Qatar or Emirates presentation wise and to be honest other reviewers look down on BA almost snob like but I recently flew BA to Tampa from Gatwick and had no issues in economy, almost the exact same experience as shown in this video. I did note that this flight had the old style IFE screen in economy/premium economy, whereas my flight to Tampa has the new tablets installed making it look much more sleek.
Impressed and surprised by BA. Definitely a consideration for my next trip to Europe. Thanks!
I love these videos can you do ANA by any chance. Japan is now open soo I think it would be nice to see. Also you can use virgin miles.! Thanks always for making my day.
From 12:23 until 12:33 is absolutely gorgeously breathtaking!!!
Thanks for the great reviews! I would love ask that three of you review and share an economy row together! There is always an open seat next to you when anyone is in economy and that is not realistic for those of us that fly all the time.
I could watch the same comparison video a thousand times! Great work 👏🏽
I always use The Concorde Lounge when I fly from Heathrow! It's very relaxing :)
The lounge at B gates def best to go to!
Legend has it, in First Class, Liam got his tea even before he ordered it. Air Hostess: 1, Liam: 0
The BA business lounges at Heathrow and Gatwick are so disappointing! Especially the food. We are now gold members now so we will have to see what the lounge is like at Gatwick November 23rd
I love your critiques of the different fancy/expensive lounges at your age 😂 Just enjoy that you get to be there at all! I’m 50 and psyched about flying Premium Economy! Most of us could only ever hope to be able to enjoy Business or First class seating and lounges.
I prefer Liam's Business seat, more privacy than first!
I’m just happy to see Ben in first class. Finally!
I wish you did a meet up in DC! I live here and am a huge fan of your channel. And I just took this flight in August (premium economy) from LHR to IAD.
Great video! I'd love to see you do more like this, particularly across the Atlantic! Maybe something like American Airlines in all four classes next?
I’ll tell you what. Cannot see the difference between business and first. I actually think business is even better (have flown them both myself and First is just not worth the money compared to Business). Amazing video as always! 😊
You guys should try the flight to Pittsburgh, I love the points guy uk and it’s wonderful the BA has a flight to my hometown!
Glad you did this video
That was stellar; what a great way to help me decide on my next class on a BA flight! Thank you!
BA first really needs a hard product overhaul, the new club suites have made their business class great, but first still lags behind. The First soft product is great on BA though, so it really is just the hard product which needs changing
Yes 👍🏻 okay
Another Smashing great video!! 🇬🇧💯🎊🇬🇧 thanks for comparing
Great vid guys, love these type of comparisons.
It’s funny because I found your channel YESTERDAY and I subbed after binging like 8 of your guys videos in this format 🤣
Ben!!! My guy getting the first!
Wish Ben would give a thorough review of the seat and amenity kit.
Undrer rated comment.
This is so exciting!
Absolutely loved this video!!! Pls do more just like this
I find it surprising that the offering in business class Club Suites was better than BA First!
BA premium economy based on all the videos I've seen looks to be very good. Probably in the top 5. They can definitely step it up a little bit by allowing access to their lounges even if its a paid option.
People complain that lounges get cramped so I doubt it. Credit card companies have their own lounges tho
I knew I'd watched too many of these videos when someone pressed the call button on a recent flight and my brain instantly went 'it's time for the call bell challenge'!
And no one brought up the fact that the business class salad and dessert is SMALLER than the premium economy one?
Great video - loved this! Do you mind me asking which microphones you're using? They're SO clear!
flew BA first on the a380 pre-pandemic. what an amazing experience! this video doesn't show it but the first class seat is at least 25% larger than the business class pod. also, the full tea experience is just next level!
25% larger than the new club suite? Would you say First (old product) was worth it over the new club suite? I am booked on a club suite but can upgrade to first (old product as in this video) for $788. Not sure which to go for. This is on a 777-200
@@YouProductions1000 depends - I'm an NFL lineman sized guy so every bit of extra space I can get I'll take. I don't drink so that really doesn't mean anything for me but some people love the champagne/ wine selection.
When I did it it was only 10k more miles to book than a biz ticket so I did. Would I pay $788 just for the pomp of the tea service? Eh, probably not, but it was a cool once in a lifetime experience.
Also I flew on the a380 which is larger than the 777 by a good margin so that may have factored into it as well - you could do cartwheels at the front of that cabin!
@@jimsturt Ah interesting, yeah the A380 is quite a bit bigger. I also don't drink, so that would be wasted on me. You do get the nicer airport experience (separate First wing, Concorde room, etc.), and since i'm traveling with a companion, buddy dining in the First seat (ottoman) is nice. This would also be a once-in-a-lifetime experience, but I could really go either way. Thanks for the reply!
Do delta economy premium select and first
Can you do Swiss?
So excited to see this video and the positive reviews, since I will be travelling BA Business Class from YVY to LHR and then Premium Econ back to YVR in November. First overseas flight since the pandemic hit and I can't wait!
Great video, you guys should do a WestJet review on the dreamliner from Gatwick to Canada! 🥰
I like business more than first class…they are very similar but not in price wise! Just spotted the wash bag that business one made of leather, much better than the first. Tbh, compare with other airline, BA need to do more work on the first class! It just equivalent to VA upper class which VA is lot cheaper. Thanks for the video btw! You guys are amazing.
Noticed how the IFE is the old Thales system. At least it isn't Rockwell Collins with that small square TV
The original is what made me fall in love with this channel!
WOW, what a wonderful flight!
Love the format - 4 experiences on same flight!
Awesome video once again, thankyou! One question, do you keep your pajamas, or do they have to be returned at the end of the flight?
Nice flight tour gentlemen and Maren.
I wish there was a part two to this with D.C. hotels, dining, and activities but maybe next time? Thanks to everyone at team #ThePointsGuyUK for their hard work.
they only do stuff in uk/europe/asia and flights to and from the uk i think, there’s a us version of the same channel just called “The Points Guy” that does US stuff I think
just found your channel and as the av enthusiast I'm gonna say thank you for serving the vlog with fun style and serving many pov in once!!!so happpyyy!
Always loves these videos guys! Keep up the good work.
HaHa ... just left the message on the original 4 class comparison, glad you updated!!
I have always had good experiences with BA Club and First. Thanks for another great video!
Business is better than first. The sliding door beat it out.
Excellent video! I took BA in 2013 to go to Los Angeles and I really appreciated the flight
As always great seeing a comparison review between different cabins, especially a four cabin flight.
Most of you look so Happy at the start of the video, but Ben is just stood there. Does he think he's to posh to join in, now he's in first class?
It's the first time I've seen Maren and she was so bright and bubbly. Hopefully some of her personality with rub off and brighten up Ben.
From recent experience I can say BA premium economy isn't as good as it was five years ago.
Specifically on 787's they force the windows dark (on day flights) and try and treat it like a night flight with less service. (Based on flights I've taken from India to London departing at dawn.) Five years ago they constantly checked you had everything you needed and if you wanted anything else. On the last two trips they've utterly failed to respond to the call bell at all.
They used to give you a business class main meal too. Either they stopped doing that, or the business meals have gone down hill.
Having said that, I'm looking forward to getting silver status by the end of the year so I can use the lounges.
One thing about T5. I always go down the extra level and take the walkway/travelators between 5A and 5B/C. It's much more peaceful.
always loved your videos, I’m going to do a timed race and experience next time I go to London, Millport, Isle of Cumbrae to my hotel in London and back by train vs the plane
Hi pointed guys I love this amazing video and I love to see a Cathay Pacific economy class, premium economy, business class. Hope you will be able to do one as I'm big fan of you guys. Thanks Karandeep
BA business class lounges are well below par when you compare to other airlines, They really are so drab and are often so busy you can’t get a seat. Will definitely try the other lounge when I’m next at Heathrow, I hope BA step up and sort out the lounges they are falling behind again.
They are good in certain places, but the main hub of T5 needs more lounges, it's always packed, Galleries First lounge feels more like a paid lounge, ive struggled to even get a seat the last few trips which for anyone is shocking let alone a frequent gold member! BA are way behind still with everything, new club suite is still rare on most flights which is really poor considering they still charge the same for the old product! They could be world leading but are way behind the quality, food and service of Qatar!
Premium economy is the best choice… Look at the difference!
I flew to Mexico earlier this year from London with BA business class, and the Tikka masala was one of the best meals I’ve ever had 😂. So damn good
You should do a review on airfrance
ahh myself fave duo liam and nicky 💕
Thank you for sharing, it was great 😊
which camera is that she is holding in economy??
Nice video mate. Loved it. Bring us more👌👌
I love all of your videos. Would love for you to do a comparison of American Airlines versus British Airways First Class.
If you head to the B lounge without knowing your gate, you can often be left with a 15-minute walk through the underbelly of T5 back to the A gates. The tram cannot take you back to A without taking another stroll through security.
Flown them all apart from first this year. Premium on a flight back from vegas was a decent seat and I slept the whole way home. Did same flight few month later in club suite can’t say I slept any more.
Terrific video (as always). Can't see much benefit of First class over the newer Business class seats - it looked a bit wider, maybe longer but little else, especially considering the price differential. Even the TV screen in First looked to be a very old design. The Concorde lounge is way better than the Galleries (which do look old and tired compared to other airlines "home" lounges).
When he put that pulse point product under his eyes! Nooo. It’s lavender to help you sleep 😂 you do not want that near your eyes! I put it on my temples and under my nose
9:30 Liam’s legroom in Business looks so comfortable! 😃
I love how Ben took maron into the First lounge and how Nicky was jealous but doesn't Nicky have status that can get him into the lounge?
Nice video! I don’t get how you managed to get for the price you mention.
If I look at reward flights they are no where near that cheap.
Could you explain how you generated those fares?
Cheers
I can’t stop laughing at the Wired Headphone Scandal. Wise to keep it away lol
Here’s a tip on how to make food taste better on a flight: where noice cancelling headphones