Need to cycle though gears before disconnecting fill and checking final oil level to set the correct fill level - video shows this after, which is the wrong sequence. Also if torque converter drain plug is accessible, then there is up to another 3-4 litres of oil to drain, otherwise this is only a partial oil change.
I've witnesses a pretty fair amount of gearboxes functioning worse after a complete oil change causing the owners to go mental, understandably. That's why I personally prefer to drain whatever comes out, put back it the same amount, then do it again at every 2 engine oil changes. That way you keep things working well and in about 3 of these cycles, you have pretty clean gearbox oil. Plus I find it pretty fun to do it at home and get a bit dirty
Thanks! Great camera work. This helps. I'm watching this b/c I do not trust professional service any more. I had a MB dealership do this on my W211. Shortly after I discovered fluid leak exactly bellow the pan. Took it back to the dealer they did something to it and that fixed it. Never told me what caused the leak after their work. I feel like I could do a better job myself than the dealership just not brave enough to lift the car like this and get under it. Dealer service is making so many mistakes lately that I feel compelled to fix car things on my own and I'm not exactly young any more.
Exact same reason why I started fixing my own cars after seeing how shops did a bad job fixing our cars. Plus, I would be broke if I continued fixing everything at the dealership. Just be careful if you decide on lifting the car, have a good big jack and jack stands, and do some research on the proper lifting points on the car, and have backup support under the car.
Some of the 722.9 transmissions total capacity 9L and some are 7L. But you would need less than the 9L since not all the transmission fluid comes out when doing these services and would need even less if you didn't drain the torque converter. So 6L is about the amount needed to do the job. I actually bought 9L since I didn't want to go back to the store in case the 6L wasn't enough when I was refilling the transmission.
Way to choose is to refer to MB website for operating fluids: operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/category/gear-oil Under the gear oil section - sheet 231.1, look for the 722.9 You'll notice there are 2 types, with code A89 (REDUCED-FRICTION) or without. How to know which one you have? If you have access to the MB EPC you'll see the code under the transmission part number, or the easy way to check using datamb.com. Mine has the A89 code so I use the 236.15 (blue oil as in the vid), or can check the 236.15 sheet on MB website for MB approved oils similar to 236.15. Or 2nd easier way to choose is ask an MB parts shop which oil to get based on your vin number.
It is mentioned as a step in the repair procedure, so answer is yes according to mercedes. Personally, it's not worth the hassle when I'm changing the oil every 50k km.
Would still do the oil level check with at the specified temp. I wouldn't trust its still at the correct fluid level since last fluid change. Not sure if your dip stick shows the oil level.
Best place to check: operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/category/gear-oil/en You'll need to know which transmission you have and check it in sheet 231.0 where it will point you to which sheet to find the right fluids for your trans.
I've yet to invest in some good wrenchs so I wouldn't trust the accuracy of mine either. I would suggest having 3 different size torque wrenchs to cover all the torque range you'll find on a car. Currently have 3 Pittsburgh and 1 Tactix wrenchs, would only recommend if you're low on money. One wrench I currently have and like is the TEKTON 1/4 In 10-150 in.-lb was also cheap when I got it and has better build quality than the Pittsburgh and Tactix.
Is a Mercedes Benz A001989240310 multi grade oil good for transmission oil change for a e550 2012 4matic sedan ? I changed my oil and the car won't move again forward or backwards after shifting gears successfully. I hope I have not damaged my transmission if at all replacing the oil completely may be able to correct/reverse anything wrong with the car ? Please advise 🙏 urgently
I'm not familiar with your car's model spec. I usually check parts and oils compatibility with my local MB parts shop using the vin. However, cars that never had a transmission oil change for a very long time (way past the service interval) could experience a transmission failure after changing the oil if that's the case here.
From what I can see the A001989240310 is for the hydraulic steering wheel and not for transmition! I probably made a mess inside the gearbox I´m afraid.
I bought a Mercedes similar to this one... the vehicle has covered 96k miles, and I don't know that the transmission oil has never been changed before... so what should I do in your opinion... do I change it completely without problems?
Check with your dealership if they have any repair history on the car, some dealers keep records if work was done there. If no transmission service was done before than there is a risk of damage if you change the fluid now. It's up to you if you want to take that risk.
@@ZakiGarage I bought the vehicle from a Copart auction.. and it's now in the process of shipping.. next week it will arrive in my country, Libya, in North Africa.. I will check if there are maintenance papers inside the car.. otherwise I will not be able to know if the previous owner changed the transmission fluid before .. Thank you for helping me and I appreciate that.. One last question, my car (w212 - E350) rear wheel drive .. m272 engine.. Is there anything you advise me to do to avoid any problems that may occur?
@@فابري will recommend all the service items but would also recommend a catch can + new oil separators to prevent intake manifold issues. Good luck with the car, hope you enjoy it
I used 6L but around 1L came out once the trans reached temp. If you'll do the torque converter have 2L more on hand. Drain washer from MB A N 007603 012102, but I think I used an M12x16x1mm from the washer box set.
I have a question for you regarding my Mercedes Benz CLS550 2013 car. I have 45,000 miles on my car. My car does not have any symptoms related to Transmission. Do I need to change the transmission fluid ?
Transmission fluid is a scheduled maintenance item just like the engine oil change. Check the scheduled maintenance section in your owners manual to see how often you need to change the transmission fluid. On my car, transmission fluid should be changed every 50,000km, so I'm assuming yours is due now.
Was wondering the same thing too. It seems to be the same pump as the brake bleeding one but missing the attachments for the brake bleeding. For me I prefer to keep this pump only for trans fluids and a different pump for the brake bleeding.
@@D19944 I would do all the service items on a new used car especially an unknown service history one. But if it was serviced at a dealership in the past, you can find those records if you ask a dealership from what I heard.
Thx, not sure how dirty the old fluid looks on camera but it was very clear and new looking in person. But a difference the old fluid was a yellow/gold color unlike the new blue MB fluid I used. The car had regular transmission fluid changes at every 60k km and the one in the video had 55K km.
@@ucscmike you bring a good point I didn't notice. Like you said it should be blue in color. Just checked the service history and the fluid change was last done at the dealership and they used 0019897803/09 which also should be blue. Not sure why it was gold/yellow when drained 🤔.
This is a V6, I don't know if MB installed a different transmission on the V8 engines. I used around 5L. Online vin decoders can sometimes help you knowing which transmission you have if you don't have a scanner
I like how you totally didn't do the torque converter. And dirtied the new trans fluid with the fluid in the torque converter. I hope you know that they both share the fluid. Bro. So you basically did nothing and ripped this person off by doing the job half assed.
Yes, I'm aware the share the same fluid which is way I didn't bother with the TC. The trans holds around 8-9L, what I drained was about 5L, my old dealership recites show 6L were replaced with the TC drained. Normal trans oil changes don't replace 100% of the old fluid unless doing a full disassembly, and with regular oil changes that's not a problem. This car gets trans oil changes every 50K km so I'm not worried about the extra 1L not drained from the TC. You can certainly drain the TC if you want or do multiple oil changes to get every last drop of old oil out. And the video is preformed on my personal car, appreciate you letting me know I ripped myself .
Hey! Dude you supposed to drain the converter fluid too , guys please know what you are doing before making these videos, it could be very misleading and cause people thousands of dollars 💵 in damages! Please!🫣🤔
Need to cycle though gears before disconnecting fill and checking final oil level to set the correct fill level - video shows this after, which is the wrong sequence. Also if torque converter drain plug is accessible, then there is up to another 3-4 litres of oil to drain, otherwise this is only a partial oil change.
I've witnesses a pretty fair amount of gearboxes functioning worse after a complete oil change causing the owners to go mental, understandably. That's why I personally prefer to drain whatever comes out, put back it the same amount, then do it again at every 2 engine oil changes. That way you keep things working well and in about 3 of these cycles, you have pretty clean gearbox oil. Plus I find it pretty fun to do it at home and get a bit dirty
@@dragos-lucianGood point Lucian. Esti in US ?
@@tiberiuspatra6955 Nu. Salut!
When is automatic, cant shift.
he skipped draining torque converter. 0:18
Thanks! Great camera work. This helps. I'm watching this b/c I do not trust professional service any more. I had a MB dealership do this on my W211. Shortly after I discovered fluid leak exactly bellow the pan. Took it back to the dealer they did something to it and that fixed it. Never told me what caused the leak after their work. I feel like I could do a better job myself than the dealership just not brave enough to lift the car like this and get under it. Dealer service is making so many mistakes lately that I feel compelled to fix car things on my own and I'm not exactly young any more.
Exact same reason why I started fixing my own cars after seeing how shops did a bad job fixing our cars. Plus, I would be broke if I continued fixing everything at the dealership. Just be careful if you decide on lifting the car, have a good big jack and jack stands, and do some research on the proper lifting points on the car, and have backup support under the car.
I jus bought a w212 e350 cdi, the special tool used to pump the ATF looks like something only big workshops will have.
will a diy need it to do the job?
Great I needed to learn this 🔥🔥🔥
Only hard part is jacking the car and working on the floor. Finding a lift will make this job a lot easier
Yah! But we do have rental lift here in town 0,25 euro minut for things like this : )
Nice work! Great video covering all the steps. Thanks!
Not all steps.
He said he skipped draining torque converter. 0:19
Great video and great work
WIS says the Torque converter for this tras has a drain bolt
Indeed, it does
Great video
Im confused do you need 6 litres for transmission fluid change or 9 Litres im getting mixed answers
Mine is Eclass w212 blueteck start stop 14 reg
Some of the 722.9 transmissions total capacity 9L and some are 7L. But you would need less than the 9L since not all the transmission fluid comes out when doing these services and would need even less if you didn't drain the torque converter. So 6L is about the amount needed to do the job. I actually bought 9L since I didn't want to go back to the store in case the 6L wasn't enough when I was refilling the transmission.
7gtronic?
Στο δικο μου αφαιρουν λαδι εκτος απο το καρτερ που βλεπω εδω και απο αλλο σημειο πιο μπροστα .Απο την χυτρα!
Συνολο 9L
MERCI beaucoup 👍
Great video! How happy are you jacking the rear by the diff? I heard it can move a scary amount on the bushes...
Is it possible to fill it from top?
hi, is this benz use 7G tronic plus(blue oil)? If normal 7G tronic(not plus) seems use red oil.
Way to choose is to refer to MB website for operating fluids: operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/category/gear-oil
Under the gear oil section - sheet 231.1, look for the 722.9
You'll notice there are 2 types, with code A89 (REDUCED-FRICTION) or without.
How to know which one you have? If you have access to the MB EPC you'll see the code under the transmission part number, or the easy way to check using datamb.com.
Mine has the A89 code so I use the 236.15 (blue oil as in the vid), or can check the 236.15 sheet on MB website for MB approved oils similar to 236.15.
Or 2nd easier way to choose is ask an MB parts shop which oil to get based on your vin number.
Brilliant. Thanks
El apriete de los tornillos está mal realizado. Hay un orden establecido!
Hi 8L of oil will be enough for my Mercedes e class w212 7G tronic 2015 ?
What if transmision have + 1 liter oil ?
I know you skipped this step but
Do you have to drain the torque converter?
It is mentioned as a step in the repair procedure, so answer is yes according to mercedes. Personally, it's not worth the hassle when I'm changing the oil every 50k km.
where is the jacking point to jack it up? Did you place the jack under the rear differential?
I did use the diff to jack the rear, and there is a rubber jacking point for the front.
What did you use to clean the pan and magnets? Brakeclean?
brake clean and soapy water
I have dip stick on top, can i fill it from there exactly what i removed 5 liters?
Would still do the oil level check with at the specified temp. I wouldn't trust its still at the correct fluid level since last fluid change. Not sure if your dip stick shows the oil level.
Thanks for the video! How do we know when to use the red or blue ATF?
Best place to check:
operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/category/gear-oil/en
You'll need to know which transmission you have and check it in sheet 231.0 where it will point you to which sheet to find the right fluids for your trans.
Thats the wrong oil.
I don’t need to shift the tranny through the gears while waiting for oil to heat up right?
Repair manual asks to shift through the gears after getting up to temp and checking the oil level
hey what brand torque wrench do you use? I have trouble trusting mine with low numbers
I've yet to invest in some good wrenchs so I wouldn't trust the accuracy of mine either. I would suggest having 3 different size torque wrenchs to cover all the torque range you'll find on a car. Currently have 3 Pittsburgh and 1 Tactix wrenchs, would only recommend if you're low on money. One wrench I currently have and like is the TEKTON 1/4 In 10-150 in.-lb was also cheap when I got it and has better build quality than the Pittsburgh and Tactix.
Is a Mercedes Benz A001989240310 multi grade oil good for transmission oil change for a e550 2012 4matic sedan ? I changed my oil and the car won't move again forward or backwards after shifting gears successfully. I hope I have not damaged my transmission if at all replacing the oil completely may be able to correct/reverse anything wrong with the car ?
Please advise 🙏 urgently
I'm not familiar with your car's model spec. I usually check parts and oils compatibility with my local MB parts shop using the vin. However, cars that never had a transmission oil change for a very long time (way past the service interval) could experience a transmission failure after changing the oil if that's the case here.
From what I can see the A001989240310 is for the hydraulic steering wheel and not for transmition! I probably made a mess inside the gearbox I´m afraid.
I bought a Mercedes similar to this one... the vehicle has covered 96k miles, and I don't know that the transmission oil has never been changed before... so what should I do in your opinion... do I change it completely without problems?
Check with your dealership if they have any repair history on the car, some dealers keep records if work was done there. If no transmission service was done before than there is a risk of damage if you change the fluid now. It's up to you if you want to take that risk.
@@ZakiGarage I bought the vehicle from a Copart auction.. and it's now in the process of shipping.. next week it will arrive in my country, Libya, in North Africa.. I will check if there are maintenance papers inside the car.. otherwise I will not be able to know if the previous owner changed the transmission fluid before .. Thank you for helping me and I appreciate that.. One last question, my car (w212 - E350) rear wheel drive .. m272 engine.. Is there anything you advise me to do to avoid any problems that may occur?
@@فابري will recommend all the service items but would also recommend a catch can + new oil separators to prevent intake manifold issues. Good luck with the car, hope you enjoy it
@@ZakiGarage
Thank you again. All thanks and appreciation to you.. I listened to you and learned a lot.. You are a wonderful person.. All respect
Great video thank you
Could you tell me how many liters of transmission fluid have you changed? And the drain washer is M8 ？Thanks
I used 6L but around 1L came out once the trans reached temp. If you'll do the torque converter have 2L more on hand. Drain washer from MB A N 007603 012102, but I think I used an M12x16x1mm from the washer box set.
@@ZakiGarage Thanks for your advice!I’ll try to change my trans fluid ~
@@WilliamTang-nx6ph Good luck and stay safe
@@ZakiGarage Thank you!🫡😁
I have a question for you regarding my Mercedes Benz CLS550 2013 car. I have 45,000 miles on my car. My car does not have any symptoms related to Transmission. Do I need to change the transmission fluid ?
Transmission fluid is a scheduled maintenance item just like the engine oil change. Check the scheduled maintenance section in your owners manual to see how often you need to change the transmission fluid. On my car, transmission fluid should be changed every 50,000km, so I'm assuming yours is due now.
Is there another scanner tool to use that’s not $400
Even cheap scan tools can show live data, but not sure which ones would show trans temp.
Is this the same tranmission on the w207 m273 engine?
Don't know, but you can check on a vin decoder website. Should give your car specs based on your vin including the tran's model.
can that same pump be used for changing brake fluid or are they 2 separate pumps?
Was wondering the same thing too. It seems to be the same pump as the brake bleeding one but missing the attachments for the brake bleeding. For me I prefer to keep this pump only for trans fluids and a different pump for the brake bleeding.
@@ZakiGarage yea that makes sense
I had 722.998 which color for the new oil??
Based on my research it should be the blue for my car. You can check on the MB site:
operatingfluids.mercedes-benz.com/category/gear-oil
@ZakiGarage any one know what is the color for my mercedes transmission??
Hi Zaki! I have a 2011 E350 RWD (US model) - M272 & 722.9 transmission. Is 6 Liters of ATF enough just for the filter and fluid change?
Should be enough but I had more ATF on hand in case I needed more.
Does this make a difference post getting your gearbox serviced? I have a 2014 e250
It shouldn't make a difference if nothing wrong with the gearbox and serviced at the recommended intervals.
@@ZakiGarage I can't find any record of mine being done since I got it, but it has done 83k
@@D19944 I would do all the service items on a new used car especially an unknown service history one. But if it was serviced at a dealership in the past, you can find those records if you ask a dealership from what I heard.
Excellent job. That fluid looks nasty. How long had it been since your last fluid change?
Thx, not sure how dirty the old fluid looks on camera but it was very clear and new looking in person. But a difference the old fluid was a yellow/gold color unlike the new blue MB fluid I used. The car had regular transmission fluid changes at every 60k km and the one in the video had 55K km.
@@ZakiGarage That makes more sense. Usually the 236.15 fluids are blue/green when drained.
@@ucscmike you bring a good point I didn't notice. Like you said it should be blue in color. Just checked the service history and the fluid change was last done at the dealership and they used 0019897803/09 which also should be blue. Not sure why it was gold/yellow when drained 🤔.
@@ZakiGarage is this a V8 or V6 , does it matter? What was the capacity that you put back , I ask because I don't have the computer to check it
This is a V6, I don't know if MB installed a different transmission on the V8 engines. I used around 5L. Online vin decoders can sometimes help you knowing which transmission you have if you don't have a scanner
How much they charge at the dealer to completely drain and refill
At my local dealership 330$ for the oil change (for regular 6L not a full 9L drain and fill) and 320$ for the filter change so around 750$ in total.
Tork konvektörü yağı boşaltmadın.türbün dahil
"I'll be skipping this step" means I'll be skipping this video.
You don't need to drain the tc you clown.
This is nothing. All is wrong
Let me guess. You are a mechanic. Want to rip off people.
Dont listen this guy. Video got right steps.
@@hanagademir2865didn’t cycle the gears and forgot the torque converter fluid
I like how you totally didn't do the torque converter. And dirtied the new trans fluid with the fluid in the torque converter. I hope you know that they both share the fluid. Bro. So you basically did nothing and ripped this person off by doing the job half assed.
Yes, I'm aware the share the same fluid which is way I didn't bother with the TC. The trans holds around 8-9L, what I drained was about 5L, my old dealership recites show 6L were replaced with the TC drained. Normal trans oil changes don't replace 100% of the old fluid unless doing a full disassembly, and with regular oil changes that's not a problem. This car gets trans oil changes every 50K km so I'm not worried about the extra 1L not drained from the TC. You can certainly drain the TC if you want or do multiple oil changes to get every last drop of old oil out. And the video is preformed on my personal car, appreciate you letting me know I ripped myself .
I just dont know why Mercedes made it more unnecessarily difficult changing transmission oil!! Damn it!!!!
Most modern cars are becoming like this unfortunately
Is it the same transmission for 2013 E550 biturbo?
Try vin decoder websites and see what transmission you have with the vin number
Hey! Dude you supposed to drain the converter fluid too , guys please know what you are doing before making these videos, it could be very misleading and cause people thousands of dollars 💵 in damages! Please!🫣🤔