The Most Reused Mold In Transformers
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Looking over every use of the most repainted and retooled mold ever, and no shock, it's a Starscream.
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When a mold is so iconic and reusable it was in service for nearly an entire decade.
I mean sure it's probably nowhere near the amount of movie Bumblebee molds, but damn.
I'm surprised the most reused mold in TF isn't any of the Movie Bee figures. (Admittedly, those are very niche guilty pleasures of mine to collect.) This mold is so good that when they tried to make their attempt at the "best" mainline Starscream 15 years later, they just made him bigger. Man, I am so excited to get SS86 Starscream
Yeah but I think for bee they just make a new crappy one every time
Tbh the g1 starscream design never get old,i really want a legacy g1 starscream,imo masterpiece and siege did a great job for remake the g1 starscream design
Why don't you try to get the "wallmart canda exclusive" G1 reissue which only came out in 2018.
@@Kickback-dm7zt Not everyone wants the original Seeker mold, especially if they want something with more articulation.
As a random bit of trivia, Classics 2006 Starscream’s jet mode deco is based off the prototype test colours of a fighter jet (can’t recall the specific model) but it’s cool that they found a colour-scheme that sorta resembled the classic Seeker deco and applied it.
Oh! Maybe you could do a companion video talking about the hardest molds to reuse. Molds that were only ever used once, for one character. Or times a new character was created just so they could reuse a mold.
Yeah like Blastwave being made just so they could make another Bludgeon mold, but that's a little bit more complicated then that, but what other list could you put him in really.
and now here we are, a couple years later and the Siege/Earthrise Sideswipe mold is giving the classics seeker mold a run for it's money
I got Generations Thundercracker for a character display, and that was my first time touching the mold after years and years of missing out on Classics Starscream. I can see why this mold got so many reuses, it's a solid Deluxe and the Seeker design is so classic.
There were some really cool K.O. versions of this mould as well. CHMS made the cooler ones. An All black and gold one, different brighter coloured rainmakers, complete chrome and gold versions, even a bright pink and white one! Sorry I missed out on that. I've got 2 silver , orange and white versions of Ramjet, and a clear plastic green version of Acid storm, the powder blue, lime green and bright yellow seekers, a set of the 3 main seekers with different stripes and slightly different paint apps. Sooo many. I loved this mould. enough to have 24 of them. It's a shame they weren't "ultra class" though, to be in scale with that Universe Powerglide. I wish they made the coneheads with that leader sized Combiner Wars seeker mould. That would have been cool. The Earthrise ones are awesome, but still too small in voyager scale.(missed it by that much!) Jets should be bigger, and to me Decepticons should be huge compared to the Autobots. What the Autobots lack in their size, they make up for in their numbers and ingenuity.
The 2006 vereion was an amazing figure for the time. It was fun to transform and looked great in both modes. It was my fave main line figure for a long time
I'm amazed they haven't done more with the ER Mold. HasTak seem more focused on squeezing more blood out of the Siegescream mold instead.
I still want a Voyager-sized Sunstorm.
Nah, they literally reused the Earthrise mold for Studio Series and we did get G2 Ramjet. Most of the Siege mold Seekers are randos, while the Earthrise mold was given the full Conehead Treatment.
my best guess is reception, people did *not* like the earthrise starscream mold, because it felt outdated with how much it takes from the classics seeker mold, without improving its flaws, like the conehead backpack, or the visible gaps in his legs, lack of waist swivel, etc, since many starscream toys in third party circles dealt with these issues in inventive ways, it left people salty
then the siege mold, well its probably the best figure for a tetrajet out at the moment, even if its mostly shell wings, but because of that, the figure is extremely posable, I even use the figures as an Art reference sometimes, its great
I disagree with you about Nacelle. Super obscure characters is exactly what a collector/fan club should be doing. Especially at a time when hasbro was putting comic only characters like drift and straxus in their toylines. And Especially after the 2007 seeker debacle they had to find a use for the mold that hasbro themselves would never touch.
I just wish we'd gotten the other 2 conehead-winged catalogue Seekers. To finish the trio.
The welcoming committee (minus Thundercraker and Skywarp who were there) totally need some screen time.
I have Energon Rapid Run and he is a repaint of Armada Sideways. And I also have the Energon Saber, which is a retool and repaint of the Armada Star Saber/Dark Saber mold.
I like Nacelle, just wish his blue was the dark navy you see on his TFWiki page. Will say though that yeah, I also hate how they just did cool ideas but paywalled them as super rare expensive exclusives.
Ngl, all of these just make me wish tfa got all its seekers out
They sure got good mileage with the Autobot brothers from Carobots. The Generation 1 Combaticons did pretty well, too.
Sunstorm remains my favorite seeker. I love the Titanium mold. Also have the Target only Thrust from that lineup. Gorgeous paint job on Thrust, too.
I think hasbro should create a service where you can design your own seeker; where you can customize wing options, colors, and head types, and then order your own personalized seeker figure.
The Siege Sideswipe Mold might end up giving this one a run for it's money...
What you were saying about the use of repaints to cut costs in every toyline, is what makes Studio Series so amazing to me. as ignoring some of the outliers like Thundercracker, TLK chars, and the Bumblebees, the sheer amount of times they make an extremely accurate vehicle and robot mode, even when the actual toy is bad, the fact that single one-off molds has been so succesful they're even brancing out to concepts and the mini shockwave, shows the amount of dedication the fans + designers have
Bitstream and Hotlink are supposed to be based on two of the other seekers that were with Sunstorm in the first episode, not on the Rainmakers.
Fun Pub confirmed that naming the set "Rainmakers" was an error.
With Nacelle as the barely visible blue seeker behind Hotlink in addition to the prototype toy.
Hasbro announces the first of the next trilogy: Just seekers. Every seeker design possible, and characters turned into seekers just because. Every size class, core to titan. An entire YEAR, of the seeker mold.
Note: the BotCon 3-pack of hers was called "Rainmakers" on the package, but it wasn't the Rainmakers. It was the Welcoming Committee. Three different guys.
Fun fact: the original deco of the Classics Starscream figure is based on the colors of the F-15 prototype that was flown to test the air frame.
nice that is very cool that Hasbro did that
Funny thing is the Earthrise Seeker mold being very influenced by that Classics Seeker mold. Like when it was first shown, everyone was all "Oh, it's just the Classics mold made bigger!" And there are a lot of similarities with how everything transforms. So far the mold has been used 8 times (Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Thrust, Dirge, Sandstorm, G2 Ramjet), and I'm betting it'll be used for many more characters in the future.
Shit, the mold is being used for Coronation Starscream in Studio Series.
Classic Bumblebee should get a vid like this, especially since there was that one mysterious blue/Glyph repaint found on ebay or something like that.
BotCon Dirge did not get remolded wings because it wasn't in the budget after they remolded characters like Thrust that year. It was explained in the biography that Dirge had been nearly destroyed in an earlier story and had to be rebuilt. So this was his new body after the rebuild.
Hm interesting. I did get Starscream when this mold first came out. I got Skywarp as well but only because the 2 pack was on sale. I usually don’t bother with repaints.
Random stranger: How’d you get so buff?
Me: every time they use the Seeker mold, I do one push up
Random Stranger: Jesus Christ
1:25 I've always been in legit awe of those who design Transformer toys.
- If Classics Starscream mold is so good... How come there's no Classics Starscream 2?
- There is.
Funny you should post this, My grandson wanted all of the seekers, The only thing that comes available in my small town is Starscream, so I just did a Thundercracker repaint of my own for him LOL
Sunstorm did play a huge role in the Dreamwave comics but I didn't know it was based on another cannon fodder Seeker from the show. I wonder where the name came from?
HasTak SHOULD keep releasing this mold, once for every year of The Transformers! It should become a tradition for the yearly Seeker!
The Earthrise mold is basically a revised version of this mold!
Man, I bought in hard to this mold. It was one of my absolute favorites of the time and I only just recently sold my remaining Seekers to replace them with the Earthrise ones. I only collected the main 6 (and 1 G2 Ramjet due to childhood memories), but I had the first Henkei ones thinking I'd never get the botcon ones. Then I got a good deal on Thundercracker and Thrust, payed about market for Dirge, and had all the Hasbro ones. Then I took the financial hit in selling the Henkei and botcon ones after the retail Thundercracker, Thrust, and Dirge were announced, collected them, and that's the set of 6 I kept until Earthrise
I’m definitely wishing myself good luck at this point on finding the original classics Starscream. As well as classics Optimus and Megatron.
kingdom airazer is starting to get up there, also being used to make skywarp, terrorsaur and rise of the beasts airazer
Damn, didn't know how many times that mold was reused.
I think many of those with a Classics-mold Seeker collection probably have a handful of knockoffs as well. I know I own a Creamsicle-colored Sunstorm and a pale purple generic.
That "Rainmaker" set was actually intended to be the "Decepticon welcoming committee" from episode 1, they just called it Rainmakers because FunPub was FunPub. So that was supposed to be Sunstorm... they just miscolored him (they miscolored all three of them, technically)
I loved this mold. I collected it and I still have them. The KO people really pushed this beyond even the official list. I was so happy when they made a full Rainmakers set since they were featured on the show. They even made glow in the dark Rainmakers, but they were clear and I couldn't bring myself to buy them since I figured I's probably break them. I did get the KO all clear Seeker and it broke badly on me. When KO Toys went down I bought a three pack on sale to have spare parts.
Speaking of unofficial, I was really glad to get the 3P coronation gear. I even used the Leader-1 head to get a custom done, although those wings broke on me. Twice! One thing I appreciate about the classics set is that they use screws in most areas. Really makes dismantling them doable. I got a KO Starscream with an official Hasbro Dirge and made a pretty passable attempt at L-1 before sending another off to get painted.
I actually liked Nacelle. I thought it was a clever use of their old custom parts.
One more thing I appreciate about classics Seekers is that they scale with CW Arealbots. Maybe the planes are actually all over the place in real life, but it was nice to have Seekers that were the same size as Arealbots for a time. Now the Arealbots are too small again. Oh, well.
I think the mold that came closest to being as overused as the classics seeker is the female combiner body that was originally used to make Moonracer and Nova Star...then Greenlight and Lancer, Chromia, Nightbird, Scyllia, some characters that weren't even female...and I'm sure a few that I don't even know about...
for he is without flaw, all hail Starscream
I’d actually love to see TJ do a video where he gives his thoughts on all the Botcon figures.
A quick review/thoughts of all botcon sets would be super cool.
Wow. Some of those I didn’t even know about!
I didn't mind Nacelle. It was a way to get the BotCon Thrust wings without buying BotCon Thrust.
Kind of stinks we never got an easily accessible Thundercracker for this mold. I've always wanted to get a decent Thundercracker.
Wasn’t the Generations Thundercracker available at retail? I saw him a few times at my local Wal-Mart many years back.
We did! It was in Generations.
31? Solid! Beware of the rubber nose cone for those designs that have it. The metal pin area that holds it to the solid plastic can give way. Any mix of rubber held by a metal pin to solid plastic runs such a risk due to a combination of plasticizer seepage, pressure and expansion/contraction of metal over time.
Also, anyone got a first Ramjet with 2 same arms before?
I really hope we at least get all the cartoon seeker colors in the earthrise mold but if we don't I'm not above buying a bunch of starscreams and doing it myself
As always this is just very enjoyable
Perhaps the Earthrise seeker mold will get a retool/repaint into SLIPSTREAM.
I would be happy with just a repaint, but a retool of the thighs shoulders chest and head sculpt would be better.
Well duh every single time Starscream gets a toy Thundercraker and Skywarp (at the very least) always follow. Plus you can totally buy multiples and then custom paint them to be whoever you want.
Still one of my favorite molds ever dudes lightning in a bottle
Why is chrome “pointless?” They’re supposed to be made of metal. Chrome looks awesome.
I only have the original Classics Starscream version of this mold, and is not just my only g1 Starscream, but my only g1 seeker as well. The only thing I don't like mold wise is the limited articulation and how the wings get in the way, and version wise how easily the red paint chipped. Other than that, I was always happy with it, and I don't think I'll ever get rid of it, even if I eventually get a better one.
Good overview
Runner-up would be the Siege Sideswipe mold
I love to see the current earthrise voyager mold repainted again in that classics acidstorm paintsceme . it was so cool and way way way better then the neon version.
i have that united set of seekers you spoke about never ended up getting the conehead ones though and i didnt own any copies of the mold until i got those was good seeing you go through all the uses of this mold it got now that it has gotten an update with the earthrise mold i can only wonder how many repaints they will end up doing of that one before the mold is retired
I loved the mold though. It worked really well.
Mind-blowing!
Not official, but it might be worth mentioning that the mold was knocked off as many times as it was made official!
CHMS released yellow Sunstorm, orange Sunstorm, the Rainmakers, silver chrome, gold chrome, black chrome, ghost versions of all six, and several other obscure recolors!
I also own a dollar store white and burgundy Starscream and an orange Ramjet.
They also released unassembled clear parts of the Starscream mold for people to create their own ghost seeker.
Love this review allot, my dude. Thank you
I'm sure somebody's already mentioned it but the combiner wars dead-end mold has definitely done its rounds, maybe not quite up in the 30's numbers but there are definitely a lot if you count all the regular uses, box sets and convention exclusives like unit-3 of all characters and maybe even list the molds that seem based on it like the titans return chromedome
Counting convention, boxsets, and Japanese releases there are 16 uses of the cw dead-end mold.
I had that seeker mold growing up and when I recently got back in the collecting I had to buy them all again yes they are simple But men are they a great mold
I love the "classics" mold/mould? Anyways..I have all of the iterations proudly displayed juxtaposed with the earthrise versions to appreciate where we've been and where we are now. For its time an incredible G1 update. The paint on skywarp...chefs kiss!
i got the first classics starscream. then there was one with less red released. not enough money to get the version i like best, then i like better, then i like better...
id love cartoon accurates.
Even I have 3 versions of this Seeker mold. Classics Ramjet, Universe Starscream and Generations Thundercracker. Starscream has some loose joints, while Thundercracker and Ramjet don't.
The only Seekers I have are Starsceam and Acidstorm.
Classics Prime is probably the only mold that comes close to this
The Masterpiece Seeker mold might beat it.
@@nujevad28 or MP-10 Prime
MP-10 definitely is one mold that hasbro/takara has gotten their money's worth out of
Classic Prime mold is probably been mentioned by someone already.
Can you do a video on the various sins of Funpub?
Patience saves money.
how have we not got a sunstorm out of er starscream?
I swapped the Siege guns out between them and these deluxe pieces.
I think I know of another overused mold the original 1984 Optimus prime mold I have like at least six uses of it. Sadly I don't have an actual original 84 or 85 but I have the Gen 2 and others after that. I'd like to see you do an article about the mold of the 84 Optimus prime.
I have nothing to say but woo a new video
I own Acid Storm and Generations Thundercracker myself
Love that mold
ER mold versions of everyone here when
G1 starscream if he made clones like animated starscream
My universe starscream’s arm broke
I think you should just do them order. Don't try to review Beast Wars and Beast Machines at the same time. Finish Wars then start Machines because that's what makes the most sence.
Also... I thought Bumblebee was the most over used mold. I mean there are versions of the same mold where all they changed was slightly different stripes on the vehicle mode. And I'm talking like one of the original 2007 movie molds that seems to get re-released every time a new movie comes out. Plus the Nightwatch versions where they invert the black and yellow. Then there's usually alternate head sculpts with or without his battle mask. Then there's the version that came with Longarm which isn't even a character in the movie it's based on the towtruck that was in the first movie when he lost his legs. Then there's the what I like to call Fan Wank version which is meant to look like a Nascar with all the brand logos but they're all references to other Transformers stuff. They made a Sideswipe like that too and I have both of them. I'm pretty sure there are over 30 versions of that Bumblebee mold.
Oh and MP10 Optimus Prime seems to get reused at least once every year since it originally came out so I wouldn't be surprised if that became the most reused mold if it isn't already.
At least the seeker molds can get released as different characters. It's not just 30 variations of Starscream's color pallet like Bumblebee is.
Tbf TJ it would make sense to watch BM after BW
15:00 Is it me or does "Redwing" look a *lot* like Armada Starscream?
i still want my classics red wing!!!!
How many starscreams does it take to make a cartoon accurate version?
I miss my Dirge.
The only instance of this mold I have is acid storm and I found him on a mountainside.
I covered him in black sharpie because I thought it would look cool lmfao.
I have Dirge
Should they use the core class to do all the other seekers
This is such a good mold; easy to customize and swap parts out on. Earthrise seekers... suck.
honestly, i'd by it again.
If I got another earthrise starscream I'd want to repaint him as my oc starknight
I remember there were also the CHMS Knock off versions of the mould. Some of the more notable ones were two different Sunstorms, the real Rainmakers, a generic Purple Seeker, full on Chromed Seekers, and “Black Death” Starscream.
Bitstream, Hotlink and Sunstorm weren't Rainmakers, they were the "Welcoming Committee" from episode 1
I will be honest the classics universe starscream I never had until I got skywarp and thundercracker then starscream its to me a simple transformation the only problem i have is lack of ball joints unable to refix that of breaks that means buy another one just by the toy, skywarp as a two pack is hilarious as starscream's coronation why make skywarp a 2 pack with someone you don't want not the best idea unless it's relevant. My middle school friend has a 3 pack with (hot rod) rodimus, cyclonus and nightstick with a comic. And in cybertron they had dirt boss and hotshot that's my thoughts on 2 pack thundercracker may not be g1 toy painted but I can take it I grew up a thundercracker who was completely grey and small blue not bothered by it paint spoken. The transclear plastic starscream could be a good idea but not to easy starscream
Can you make a video similar to this on classics prime
Random chrome....I like the chrome
I'm fairly certain the classics mold of Optimus Prime was repainted a few times.
I saw this and my brain just said. "That's not a picture of combiner wars silverbolt." But yeah, the classics seeker got used so many glass. I only ever had acid storm tho.
So, if I can ask, how does mould degredation work? I don’t quite understand
Though the molds they use to make this figures, made out of metal, are really sturdy and are meant to last, they degrade with use (as everything else does), particularly with the heat of the molten plastic. One use once in a while may do nothing to it, what really does a number to the mold, however, is it's continuous use, and given how these figures have to be produced in very large numbers to supply demand, they get a lot of continuous use, so degradation it's inevitable, as metals deform with heat.