My LGS must seem like a shrine to DJ; everyone who bought the deck traded it away when making upgrades (which is fair as it was always the 'bonus, whole other game plan' commander) and now we have at least 2 or 3 of these doing the rounds as the main commander. I personally play it in Kykar as I've already got stuff like the Ghostly Prison/War's Toll soft lock going on ("You get to attack me or cast sorcery speed spells, not both!") to prevent myself being attacked too much while building up the board. Could probably actually switch it to the main commander to play as a more casual deck - hadn't even considered that!
"So we're going to build a wall, it's going to be 'uge, it's going to be red, white and blue, and it's going to make our enemies hate each other. Did I mention that the wall, that we're going to build, it's going to reach the sky." This is the best basis for a Trump deck. Thanks DJ!
Please, PLEASE play this deck on Command Zone! I have been hype for this deck since its announcement and built it sort of similarly to you, a couple of key interactions you noted I put in. I wanna see your ideas in action though!
This is definitely a deck where you should run a card like Gisela, Blade of Goodnight. Her ability to double any damage dealt to your opponents whilst simultaneously preventing half of any damage going towards you just goes hand-in-hand with Pramikon's primary strategy. How is she not on your list? :D
Glad to see someone else giving some love to Pramikon! I absolutely concur with your summary that Pramikon is an original RWU commander that isn't focused on spellslinging. Controlling combat then lends itself amazingly for superfriends and forced/political combat. I brewed a superfriends build myself that I uploaded a couple of days ago and I also like your version with forced and controlled combat. That's definitely another great avenue to take Pramikon through.
DJ, I literally told people when this card was spoiled that it was the Jeskai aggro commander I had been looking for. I've been building this deck and we're using a lot of the same strategies. I included the Vow cycle of auras instead of the Hunted Cycle of creatures.
I think the ideal scenario for that situation would be to have the person you can attack be as weak as possible without actually killing them, therefore allowing you to win in the long game.
This is the deck I've been looking for. After 7 yrs, I've been getting bored with casual and pouring efforts into cEDH. This is exactly the casual deck idea that's inspiring again. TYVM!
Yknow, you ARE right. Like you said, this changes the rules of the game. And you're the only deck prepared for it. This is a fun way to play. I think it got bashed because it doesn't help out many existing decks (any?). But it's a whole new deck, and that's awesome.
It takes a twisted sort of mind to look at a card like Pramikon, Sky Rampart and go "This is gonna be so fun" as you build a combat control deck.… Well played DJ.... well played
I’m so glad you did this! I’ve been tinkering with how to best build Pramikon because I think he would be a great politics commander! Thanks for all the great ideas DJ!
Jeremiah Abbott jam in a bunch of flicker and blink effects like Brago and conjurers closet, along with cards that give value. Make it a flicker deck with red as well
Finally! Now we are talking about playing the game and not just about cards. This reminds me of my feelings playing Mathas - also here, Pramikon helps you to reach what is the heart of commander: playing the great game with your friends!
Dj you are my favorite magic youtuber because i see you as a kindred spirit in edh When i saw this commander he was instantly my favorite because i had this very deck idea in mind Especially when around me everyone said this commander is dumb
I am running him as a blink deck using stuff like Mirror March, Impact Tremors, and even Worldgorger dragon to create some great advantage with blink in red. And man am I pumped to see this work out!
Oh my God, I love this whole concept!!! Been wanting to build a deck that gives out creatures, and was thinking about thantis, but was worried that people would turn on me if I give out gift creatures, and what happens when I can't defend it. This idea of giving out creatures and controlling combat actually sounds so much more powerful!!
I absolutely love this direction for Pramikon. It reminds me a ton of the Saskia deck I just built with Marisi and Thantis as 'hidden commanders'. I may have to test this Pramikon build and see how it goes!
My Narset Superfriends deck has lead me to believe that Jeskai is the best, most fair form of both Superfriends and Narset. Pramikon seems like a solid substitute if Narset is too scary for the table and will get you quick hate.
What a nice video!! I totally want to build this deck right now. It's so much different to all the other decks I have and I'm very excited about this deck :D. Thanks :)
Hey DJ, I got a good card for you to consider since you're running Teferi's Protection and Blue Elite Arcanist 3U 1/1 When It enters the battlefield, you may exile an instant from your hand X, T: Copy exiled card. You may cast it without paying its mana cost, X is the cmc of the spell Basically, you play Arcanist, exile Teferi's protection from hand, and now you can use Teferi's protection as many times as you want Since Phasing doesn't count as the creature entering or leaving the battlefield, it sticks
It's interesting how much of this wound up in the commander master's planeswalker party deck. I just slotted Pramikon in place of Guff and off we went.
Thank you for the vid!! Being a big Jeskai player myself, I'd already built something similar with Ishai and Ludevic at the helm, but it was pretty clunky (and I built it just before BBD was announced lol), but I just know that it's gonna be led by Pramikon from now on :D
i thought the same as you, this is my new deck now and im super happy, let me add gisela blade of goldnight to the warmonging stuff. I added a hefty amount of coutner to prevent combos and wrath of god efects. we wat people to keed p hitting each other. also i noted i could finish people or board clear with earthquake and molten disaster since most of our bombs fly. gisela and the wanderer can mitigate the damege to our own face but since we control the combat we probably are higher than the oponents we are finishing. also sharkan masterless and one of our dragons like niv mizzet dracogenious ow warmonger hellkite plus a basisk collar means killing all atackers that go into us. also sarkhan makes our walkers go to war!!
Don't forget Archangel of Strife and Crescendo of War, two of my favorite game accelerants. Also remember Crescendo pumps all attacking creatures, but also pumps only your blocking creatures, so if you can give them first strike/double strike/vigilance you'll be set on defense while everyone else rips each other apart.
Wow, a deck that Aeon Engine would be AWESOME in. Ensuring turn flow so that the person who you have to attack is tapped out (due to all creatures having to attack) when you attack is pretty sweet, while your sitting pretty behind war tax, propaganda, ghost prison, some walls, ect.
Hey if anyone's interested in an official Pramikon playmat, you can get one from OMA (Original Magic Art) in the pre-order section. I'm only posting this because I want one but I can't get it until a total of 25 people pre-order it, and we're at 24 right now lol
This card is sweet, but grismold has gotta be the most exciting for me... I am so pumped to make it. I ordered 8 of him to throw in various decks, and to brew his own deck too!
I tried to do something very similar to this with the 4 colour group hug commander (kynasios and tiro? I don't care to look up how to spell it). The idea was to build a coliseum for our opponents to fight in, and for us to watch from...then we double-triple our mana, give everyone 20-some 1/1 hasty elementals with tempting vengence, then ezuri's predation with mass hysteria on board. Everything has haste and I just turned the opponents 20 1/1's into MY hasty 4/4's. Way more interesting combo than a boring old insurrection.
@@JumboCommander no sir. No vent sentinel. I went with spirits, and a zedruu theme in mine. Cursing others incentivised to attack them... I hit 56 by pushing 28 mana into a damage spell with flashback and copying it!
@@JumboCommander also i have a question for you. What would happen if you used a card with Myriad with Pramikon? Since they aren't being declared as attackers, could that get around you only being able to attack one player? If so, Pramikon just might of became a lot stronger with the idea.
Thought about putting conjurers closet in this deck for repeatable ETBs with the commander and the ability to attack someone then make them have to attack the other way/
I made him my commander without hesitation when I got the deck. Added Walls, Tetsuko Umezawa, High Alert and a little more tax with Baird. I kind of sit there, blocking and drawing until I have unblockable walls... or 30+ Pegasi.
Not only was this my 2nd favorite (behind Alta Palani) but that artwork! Richard Wright strikes again. I'm hoping ultra pro makes a playmat because holy cow i need one ASAP Edit: I think Boros Battleshaper is GREAT in your deck too
I really think Marisi is better at this strategy than Pramikon, but Pramikon does have better colors for it I guess. That said, I really like Pramikon, and have made a deck with it too. Glad to see a video for this interesting commander!
Play this deck with a decent number of counterspells to both protect the commander and deal with opponents' non-combat victory conditions. Maybe play spell-on-stack-stealing/exchanging effects for flavor. Also consider Peacekeeper if going heavy on the planeswalkers rather than the combat manipulation.
I was building Mathas/Queen Marchesa, but now I want to build this; it's exactly what I've been waiting for. I also can build with the new Naya Cat Commander instead of Tana/Sidar partners at the helm.
YEAHHHH! I’m glad you love Pramikon too, it’s the most interesting for me too, Elsha, Kadena and K’rikk are definetly more competitive, but this is funnier XD My first thought was Avatar of slaugther, warmonger Hellkite (glad to see you thought to them too XD) or even bitter feud combined with blink tricks, to change the direction every time it’s needed😍
While not a card I want to build a deck around, I do think it has a high potential for trolling your playgroup. It is a control commander and could do very well. Until people figure out that they can just kill your commander :P
Not like it's a super expensive casting cost on the commander though. Your opponents would need to dedicate several removal spells on it before it's no longer worth it.
I've built a variant of this and I have to say the land "forbidden orchard" is an all star. Taps for any color you need and gives your opponents free 1/1
Marisi Break of the Coil seems like he would be a fun build around to me for sort of the same reason, kind of wish he were five colours so you could make use of all the cards throughout magic's history that encourage combat, particularly combat aimed at everyone else. I just like the idea of sitting back while everyone else desperately attacks each other.
@@cc_rex5017 Nah, Blue is knowledge and wisdom. Not fitting Trump. Give him Doran, The Siege Tower. Hillary Clinton favorite commander would be Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer XD
Hey, totally understand if this commander is old news by now but it's been a good while since it was released and I was wondering if anyone had some experience actually setting this up at the table and how it stacks up to other potential commander decks
I have a jund deck that plays to the exact same beat. Super politics, encourage attacks, give attackers to everyone, group slug. It never ever wins. And you know what? I love it.
Odd question, should I be worried about playing Massacre Girl in a deck with Genesis Wave in it, or is that too cornercase of a scenario to worry about? The deck is yarok and is mainly based on landfall
Nice...i have a spellslinger variant with guttersnipe, young pyro, kykar, locus god, etc....add purphorus for some spice...flicker pram when needed...you forgot disrupt decorum(shields down...no prob...have everyone attack everyone but you....) This is a great political commander...(feldon the third path for the haunted creatures?...hmmm)
It's a very unique commander, and super cool deck idea, but I have to say that it will likely only be viable when playing with Jank-Casual level decks. I can' see it performing well against Focused-Optimized decks. Love to be proven wrong!
Only real downside with this commander is that you enable decks that need time and safety to build up and explode. When you start to see those decks getting stronger, but not everyone can slam them before what ever combos are coming, it can be a real feel bad situation knowing your commander lets him get away with it.
I think Marisi is better at this than Pramikon, but Pramikon has better colors for it. The problem with Pramikon is that if your opponents remove it, you're likely to be target #1. Marisi doesn't have that problem since the goading effect lasts until your next turn even if they remove him.
@@keithkeller4546 This is very true. Marisi definitely keeps you safer and can guarentee your opponents hit each other. Pramikon is better for more control, slower game, more pillowforty.
Been looking at decklidts for this and marisi and everyone seems to be skipping over forbidden orchard which is crazy for both strategies
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damn....... DAMN never thought I would like a jeski wall so much but now I want to make this deck.. shame Im poor right now.... I never for the life of me think anyone would want to run Zedruu the Greathearted but now I can see now I know and I thank you for showing make deals with everyone on the table give them new toys and men and force them to fight each other. This deck is literally America Magic. Finally I have a purpose to use hunted cards
Are you sure that Pramikon/Mystic Barrier thing works. My most recent understanding of effects that contradict each other like that is that the more recent card to hit the board takes effect and nullifies the other until it leaves.
DJ, the fact that this is your favorite Commander is the reason I love you.
My LGS must seem like a shrine to DJ; everyone who bought the deck traded it away when making upgrades (which is fair as it was always the 'bonus, whole other game plan' commander) and now we have at least 2 or 3 of these doing the rounds as the main commander. I personally play it in Kykar as I've already got stuff like the Ghostly Prison/War's Toll soft lock going on ("You get to attack me or cast sorcery speed spells, not both!") to prevent myself being attacked too much while building up the board. Could probably actually switch it to the main commander to play as a more casual deck - hadn't even considered that!
Lol imagine using deadeye navigator to switch directions everytime someone can attack you
Lol, I love it!
#deadeyebanhammer
I was thinking eldrazi displacer, but deadeye works too
"So we're going to build a wall, it's going to be 'uge, it's going to be red, white and blue, and it's going to make our enemies hate each other. Did I mention that the wall, that we're going to build, it's going to reach the sky."
This is the best basis for a Trump deck.
Thanks DJ!
Please, PLEASE play this deck on Command Zone!
I have been hype for this deck since its announcement and built it sort of similarly to you, a couple of key interactions you noted I put in. I wanna see your ideas in action though!
Thanks million times for making this while Jimmy And Josh looking down on this precious wall boi prove once again that you’re the superior 😩👌💯
Josh and Jimmy look down on anything that doesn't say "I win".
This is definitely a deck where you should run a card like Gisela, Blade of Goodnight. Her ability to double any damage dealt to your opponents whilst simultaneously preventing half of any damage going towards you just goes hand-in-hand with Pramikon's primary strategy. How is she not on your list? :D
Glad I'm not the only one excited for this commander!
Glad to see someone else giving some love to Pramikon! I absolutely concur with your summary that Pramikon is an original RWU commander that isn't focused on spellslinging. Controlling combat then lends itself amazingly for superfriends and forced/political combat. I brewed a superfriends build myself that I uploaded a couple of days ago and I also like your version with forced and controlled combat. That's definitely another great avenue to take Pramikon through.
DJ, I literally told people when this card was spoiled that it was the Jeskai aggro commander I had been looking for. I've been building this deck and we're using a lot of the same strategies. I included the Vow cycle of auras instead of the Hunted Cycle of creatures.
Pramikon might go into my Kynaios and Tiro group hug control deck as a second copy of Mystic Barrier.
I actually really like this card, it’s such a good pillow fort commander
Do you happen to know how sky rampart works if there are only 2 players
I would assume it doesn’t do anything since the other player is both on the left and right, so I guess it’s not the best in dual commander
I think the ideal scenario for that situation would be to have the person you can attack be as weak as possible without actually killing them, therefore allowing you to win in the long game.
Pillow fort is a good description, since in it's colors are Propaganda and the like 😂😂😂
This is the deck I've been looking for. After 7 yrs, I've been getting bored with casual and pouring efforts into cEDH. This is exactly the casual deck idea that's inspiring again. TYVM!
Yknow, you ARE right. Like you said, this changes the rules of the game. And you're the only deck prepared for it. This is a fun way to play. I think it got bashed because it doesn't help out many existing decks (any?). But it's a whole new deck, and that's awesome.
It takes a twisted sort of mind to look at a card like Pramikon, Sky Rampart and go "This is gonna be so fun" as you build a combat control deck.… Well played DJ.... well played
I’m so glad you did this! I’ve been tinkering with how to best build Pramikon because I think he would be a great politics commander! Thanks for all the great ideas DJ!
Heh I love it. Not sure which I'd rather do, superfriends, or the combat one
Jeremiah Abbott jam in a bunch of flicker and blink effects like Brago and conjurers closet, along with cards that give value. Make it a flicker deck with red as well
Little bit of both
I am so happy with this video. You are the first to propose a way to use Pramikon.
Kudos, this deck will be such fun...control and defense.
Going to include Atemis the All-Seeing to my Prammy deck just for that alternate win con just in case!
Feel like that alt win con would be needed once it's just you and one other player.
Finally! Now we are talking about playing the game and not just about cards. This reminds me of my feelings playing Mathas - also here, Pramikon helps you to reach what is the heart of commander: playing the great game with your friends!
Marisi is my favourite. Rogue’s passage and settle the wreckage is so nice
Dj you are my favorite magic youtuber because i see you as a kindred spirit in edh
When i saw this commander he was instantly my favorite because i had this very deck idea in mind
Especially when around me everyone said this commander is dumb
I am running him as a blink deck using stuff like Mirror March, Impact Tremors, and even Worldgorger dragon to create some great advantage with blink in red. And man am I pumped to see this work out!
Such a cool concept for a deck! Good job, DJ.
Oh my God, I love this whole concept!!! Been wanting to build a deck that gives out creatures, and was thinking about thantis, but was worried that people would turn on me if I give out gift creatures, and what happens when I can't defend it.
This idea of giving out creatures and controlling combat actually sounds so much more powerful!!
This is great... here I was pondering the potential of Pramikon. Thanks DJ.
i love you!!! i was wrecking my brain over a Paramicon deck that forces combat. thanks u helped me a bunch!!
I didn't think about him that way!
I am going to build him now, thank you so much!
I need to see art of Pramikon wearing boots and indestructible armor please!!!
Leadership vacuum says hello
I absolutely love this direction for Pramikon. It reminds me a ton of the Saskia deck I just built with Marisi and Thantis as 'hidden commanders'. I may have to test this Pramikon build and see how it goes!
Im loving the list and video for a commander that I first thought was meh at best now has me excited to build it and pilot it so thank you for that.
My Narset Superfriends deck has lead me to believe that Jeskai is the best, most fair form of both Superfriends and Narset. Pramikon seems like a solid substitute if Narset is too scary for the table and will get you quick hate.
"most fair", dude what about narset is balanced? xD
It had to be you to recon the potential of this commander, it is really amazing, I felt the need to built it as soon as it was spoiled.
I thought of this exact play style when I first saw Pramikon. I'm so excited to play our new Pramikon, God of Warfare. :)
What a nice video!! I totally want to build this deck right now. It's so much different to all the other decks I have and I'm very excited about this deck :D. Thanks :)
I just built this! Well worth it! DJ ... YOU WERE SO RIGHT!
Really creative deck design, DJ. I thought the Commander was decent, but this actually looks like a blast to play.
I can confirm... super fun.
Hey DJ, I got a good card for you to consider since you're running Teferi's Protection and Blue
Elite Arcanist
3U
1/1
When It enters the battlefield, you may exile an instant from your hand
X, T: Copy exiled card. You may cast it without paying its mana cost, X is the cmc of the spell
Basically, you play Arcanist, exile Teferi's protection from hand, and now you can use Teferi's protection as many times as you want
Since Phasing doesn't count as the creature entering or leaving the battlefield, it sticks
It's interesting how much of this wound up in the commander master's planeswalker party deck. I just slotted Pramikon in place of Guff and off we went.
Thank you for the vid!! Being a big Jeskai player myself, I'd already built something similar with Ishai and Ludevic at the helm, but it was pretty clunky (and I built it just before BBD was announced lol), but I just know that it's gonna be led by Pramikon from now on :D
Great episode DJ! It was really cool to see you at Vegas.
This is beautiful, my Pramikon deck welcomes your input, DJ.
i thought the same as you, this is my new deck now and im super happy, let me add gisela blade of goldnight to the warmonging stuff. I added a hefty amount of coutner to prevent combos and wrath of god efects. we wat people to keed p hitting each other. also i noted i could finish people or board clear with earthquake and molten disaster since most of our bombs fly. gisela and the wanderer can mitigate the damege to our own face but since we control the combat we probably are higher than the oponents we are finishing. also sharkan masterless and one of our dragons like niv mizzet dracogenious ow warmonger hellkite plus a basisk collar means killing all atackers that go into us. also sarkhan makes our walkers go to war!!
I recently made a deck very similar to this and it was so fun. I am absolutely going to upgrade this deck and play it regularly
Don't forget Archangel of Strife and Crescendo of War, two of my favorite game accelerants.
Also remember Crescendo pumps all attacking creatures, but also pumps only your blocking creatures, so if you can give them first strike/double strike/vigilance you'll be set on defense while everyone else rips each other apart.
Wow, a deck that Aeon Engine would be AWESOME in. Ensuring turn flow so that the person who you have to attack is tapped out (due to all creatures having to attack) when you attack is pretty sweet, while your sitting pretty behind war tax, propaganda, ghost prison, some walls, ect.
Nice overview. Good stuff
Yes! This is the kind of Jumbo Commander deck I've been craving!
I love that you take the hate on this card and make it into something wonderful
That's it. I'm convinced. Going to start building this tomorrow
Hey if anyone's interested in an official Pramikon playmat, you can get one from OMA (Original Magic Art) in the pre-order section. I'm only posting this because I want one but I can't get it until a total of 25 people pre-order it, and we're at 24 right now lol
This card is sweet, but grismold has gotta be the most exciting for me... I am so pumped to make it. I ordered 8 of him to throw in various decks, and to brew his own deck too!
I've been thinking exactly this same since I saw Pramikon, I thought how much fun this deck could be in multiplayer. Crazy af!
I tried to do something very similar to this with the 4 colour group hug commander (kynasios and tiro? I don't care to look up how to spell it). The idea was to build a coliseum for our opponents to fight in, and for us to watch from...then we double-triple our mana, give everyone 20-some 1/1 hasty elementals with tempting vengence, then ezuri's predation with mass hysteria on board. Everything has haste and I just turned the opponents 20 1/1's into MY hasty 4/4's. Way more interesting combo than a boring old insurrection.
Same! Love it so much. Won a match last night with it, pinged for 56 damage directly when nobody could swing.
Vent Sentinal?!?! OMG the dream!
@@JumboCommander no sir. No vent sentinel. I went with spirits, and a zedruu theme in mine. Cursing others incentivised to attack them... I hit 56 by pushing 28 mana into a damage spell with flashback and copying it!
@@JumboCommander also i have a question for you. What would happen if you used a card with Myriad with Pramikon? Since they aren't being declared as attackers, could that get around you only being able to attack one player? If so, Pramikon just might of became a lot stronger with the idea.
Thought about putting conjurers closet in this deck for repeatable ETBs with the commander and the ability to attack someone then make them have to attack the other way/
I made him my commander without hesitation when I got the deck. Added Walls, Tetsuko Umezawa, High Alert and a little more tax with Baird. I kind of sit there, blocking and drawing until I have unblockable walls... or 30+ Pegasi.
Not only was this my 2nd favorite (behind Alta Palani) but that artwork! Richard Wright strikes again. I'm hoping ultra pro makes a playmat because holy cow i need one ASAP
Edit: I think Boros Battleshaper is GREAT in your deck too
I really think Marisi is better at this strategy than Pramikon, but Pramikon does have better colors for it I guess. That said, I really like Pramikon, and have made a deck with it too. Glad to see a video for this interesting commander!
Play this deck with a decent number of counterspells to both protect the commander and deal with opponents' non-combat victory conditions. Maybe play spell-on-stack-stealing/exchanging effects for flavor. Also consider Peacekeeper if going heavy on the planeswalkers rather than the combat manipulation.
I was building Mathas/Queen Marchesa, but now I want to build this; it's exactly what I've been waiting for.
I also can build with the new Naya Cat Commander instead of Tana/Sidar partners at the helm.
I'd love to see a deck tech using the new, 3-color Cat Commander!
This is the kind of Magic, that I love. Awsome deck tech!
YEAHHHH! I’m glad you love Pramikon too, it’s the most interesting for me too, Elsha, Kadena and K’rikk are definetly more competitive, but this is funnier XD
My first thought was Avatar of slaugther, warmonger Hellkite (glad to see you thought to them too XD) or even bitter feud combined with blink tricks, to change the direction every time it’s needed😍
While not a card I want to build a deck around, I do think it has a high potential for trolling your playgroup. It is a control commander and could do very well. Until people figure out that they can just kill your commander :P
Not like it's a super expensive casting cost on the commander though. Your opponents would need to dedicate several removal spells on it before it's no longer worth it.
this deck has got to be my new favourite as well. im excited to build it
Just sleeved up my Pramikon Blink deck! Been building it since he got spoiled
I've built a variant of this and I have to say the land "forbidden orchard" is an all star. Taps for any color you need and gives your opponents free 1/1
I'm looking forward to your Marisi decktech. Really exited for that deck.
I love the wall concept it's so dirty thanks for the tech
Marisi Break of the Coil seems like he would be a fun build around to me for sort of the same reason, kind of wish he were five colours so you could make use of all the cards throughout magic's history that encourage combat, particularly combat aimed at everyone else. I just like the idea of sitting back while everyone else desperately attacks each other.
What about that 9 drop white creature that stops EVERYONE from attacking you? It says: "Creatures can't attack you"
That would work
Right?
Blazing Archon, I believe.
@@Arvensa yep that's it
And that's perfect for this headache deck!
Pramikon is a meme about America lol
Trump's favorite Commanders: Pramikon Sky Rampart, Arcades the Strategist, Grand Arbiter Augustin the IV XD
Pretty sure they choose jeskai’s colors for the meme😂
@@ilianceroni Yeah lol!
Red, white and blue
Build a wall
Choose left or right
It's like, "Common now!" 🤣
Seority you intrigued me with the original comment, you sealed the deal with the reply.
@@cc_rex5017 Nah, Blue is knowledge and wisdom. Not fitting Trump. Give him Doran, The Siege Tower.
Hillary Clinton favorite commander would be
Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer XD
Hey, totally understand if this commander is old news by now but it's been a good while since it was released and I was wondering if anyone had some experience actually setting this up at the table and how it stacks up to other potential commander decks
I love this card so much man.
Pramikon is bae. I want to include a little curse package to reward players for attacking opponents
I have a jund deck that plays to the exact same beat. Super politics, encourage attacks, give attackers to everyone, group slug. It never ever wins. And you know what? I love it.
Ya just have to have an imagination for Pramikon. I can't wait to build it.
Thanks god i'm not the only one that loves this card
I bought this precon and am really loving it!
Awesome video. Completely agree.
I am disappointed jumbo, this is the perfect deck for goad mechanics like disrupt decorum and you didn't mention it :(
Odd question, should I be worried about playing Massacre Girl in a deck with Genesis Wave in it, or is that too cornercase of a scenario to worry about? The deck is yarok and is mainly based on landfall
I already built the superfriends deck for when people want to play casual decks. It's an absolute blast
I'm throwing in some walls with block triggers to take advantage of the forced aggro but not sure if that's the best move
How about Goblin Diplomat for the deck?
Nice...i have a spellslinger variant with guttersnipe, young pyro, kykar, locus god, etc....add purphorus for some spice...flicker pram when needed...you forgot disrupt decorum(shields down...no prob...have everyone attack everyone but you....) This is a great political commander...(feldon the third path for the haunted creatures?...hmmm)
I cannot wait to build Pramikon!
It's a very unique commander, and super cool deck idea, but I have to say that it will likely only be viable when playing with Jank-Casual level decks. I can' see it performing well against Focused-Optimized decks. Love to be proven wrong!
Only real downside with this commander is that you enable decks that need time and safety to build up and explode. When you start to see those decks getting stronger, but not everyone can slam them before what ever combos are coming, it can be a real feel bad situation knowing your commander lets him get away with it.
I really want to see a game with this play out. Looks really fun
14:24 This is where magical Christmas land starts.
Manipulating combat is a really fun concept for a deck, and Pramy is probably the most impactful commander for doing that.
Thantis is good and gives access to black which is way better color
I think Marisi is better at this than Pramikon, but Pramikon has better colors for it. The problem with Pramikon is that if your opponents remove it, you're likely to be target #1. Marisi doesn't have that problem since the goading effect lasts until your next turn even if they remove him.
@@keithkeller4546 This is very true. Marisi definitely keeps you safer and can guarentee your opponents hit each other. Pramikon is better for more control, slower game, more pillowforty.
Been looking at decklidts for this and marisi and everyone seems to be skipping over forbidden orchard which is crazy for both strategies
damn....... DAMN never thought I would like a jeski wall so much but now I want to make this deck.. shame Im poor right now.... I never for the life of me think anyone would want to run Zedruu the Greathearted but now I can see now I know and I thank you for showing make deals with everyone on the table give them new toys and men and force them to fight each other. This deck is literally America Magic. Finally I have a purpose to use hunted cards
No mention of the "Vow" enchantments? They would be a perfect fit for this.
Are you sure that Pramikon/Mystic Barrier thing works. My most recent understanding of effects that contradict each other like that is that the more recent card to hit the board takes effect and nullifies the other until it leaves.
Funny thing is I ignored him until right before this video lol thank you the ideas
In my opinion the best card to save your boss is angelic renewal, it doesnt die as easy as selfless spirit and triggers pramikon
What about crawl space, or was it too expensive to make the cut for this list?
Naw, it's a great addition! Thanks for commenting about it.
Jumbo Commander how about helm of the host? Nobody can attack anyone
Thank you sir. You answered my question.