Denmark's Forest Kindergartens - REACTION - lol this is WILD! - First Time seeing
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In Denmark we don't sue each other for just normal things
LOL in USA we sue if you look at us wrong
@@AMCpushersRtheWorst This is so far from our culture and our judicial system aren't geared for this kind of harrasment. If there a real offence of the law then yes.
Yeah because injuries don't cost us thousands of dollars in personal medical bills. No kid should have to worry about health insurance and their parents' finances before climbing a tree!
If we tried to sue someone because a kid hit another kid with a rock by accident, we could risk getting a fine for wasting court time.
@@AMCpushersRtheWorst Our justice system doesn't grand a big fines/compensations. Therefore we don't sue, as a way to make money, we work.
The danger is often only in the heads of the adults,wich never learnd to climb a tree
to be fair, watching this as a Dane i thought it was crazy, then i remembered doing literally all of these things when I was in kindergarten as well, climbing trees, falling out of trees, making spears with shoddy daggers, learning to skip rocks at the lake, and mine was just a normal in-door kindergarten. not sure why my initial reaction was to think the adults are nut cases.
americans are scared of everything lmao
Exactly
I agree.
edit: Whom*
which*
We are Viking descendants, cold and wet is part of life, knives are tools, and the forest is where life grows 😎
But if you make a simple bow or a slingshot you will be arrested for breaking the weapons laws... LOL
-I am a dane myself.... There is honestly not much viking left in us at this point...
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds We still brave out the cold and the rain, we bitch about it but most of us stays here nonetheless 😊
@@sgtommyc true!😂
@@JokerInk-CustomBuilds it is all in the mind.
@@SusseBo absolutely. I am a short man, but I believe I am a big viking man tougher than leather... 🤣
As I learned as a child, if there are enough branches to climb, there are enough to break your fall
Exactly! And the ground is usually soft 😊
@@ThomasJuul And kids are spongy :D
@@mazzysmainframe kids are made of rubber until they turn about 8
Yeah me 2 m8 😂😂😂
When I was 9, I went to a cub scout holiday, and one day we played tig in a forest, so I climbed a tree to not get tigged and was 80 feet (25mtrs) up it when a large branch broke under me . I did my best to slow down but ended upside down over 20 feet up the tree (7mtrs!). My foot was stuck in the V of a branch! , so our Arkelas 2nd Graham (who hated heights) had to climb up and get me down. Great times, so jealous of these kindergardners , I had to go to the park to climb trees! 🙃
7:10 Do you know what happens if the knife slips? You get a cut, you learn how to clean a wound - and keep it clean, you learn how to put on a bandage - and it's a deep cut you get to go to the hospital and get stitches - and then you will have a scar which will be part of the stories you tell when you talk about life with other people. Our mentality is that life lessons need to be learned through living - and that is a good thing. We have a term called "Op igen" - which is basically "stand up again" - and is what we (fathers in particular - though not exclusively) say to our kids when they fall. It's part of the mentality here. It's resilience as a national virtue really.
I think a lot of it comes down to trust too. It's kinda weird to hear him say that he would not let kids throw rocks in the fjord (or any body of water) cause maybe they'll hit someone.
Love this optimism :D
Now do it with: "What happens if a kid get stabbed!!" XD I want the kid to learn heart surgery and become a successful surgeon and then tell ppl stories about that scar!
@@DK_1983 Why would a kid get stabbed mate...
@@JutlandAngel Haha yeah - it's the kinda stuff which sets Scandinavians apart from most Americans. This "what if" fear - and the fact that here if you get sued and lose it'll cost MAYBE $5.000 if you REALLY messed up - and not $5.000.000 😀 The whole aversion to risk thing comes from a fear of consequences rather than logic.
@@DK_1983 m8 there is a HUGE difference between a cut and a stab. A cut usually is a lesion in the upper layers of the skin - and only deep cuts need stitches. They are usually harmless - as long as they don't get infected (especially the deep ones)
A stab however is much more serious - and can often cause internal damage and bleeding. Stabs are very often life-threatening if not taken care of immediately - and if you get stabbed in the wrong place it can take you literal seconds to die.
Any yes - in fact I have 3 doctors of different "kinds" in my family - and all 3 tell about their childhoods - cuts and everything - when we are having those long talks about life at our family gatherings. It's literally normal Danish culture - and I would think you have experienced it if that name is an indicator of your nationality and age 😀
As I wrote to another reaction to this video…
When these children come home they are physically tired
instead of mentally tired and therefore sleep better at night... 🙂
My sleep problems are caused 99% by my brain keeping me awake, despite my body being exhausted so while I 100% agree with forest kindergartens (I grew up that way myself), that's not a very compelling argument :P I remember one time when I was a kid and couldn't sleep, my mother's boyfriend at the time told me to get up and he took me on a long walk around the neighbourhood (despite me already being physically exhausted) and when we got home, he said "there. Now I'm sure you can sleep". I was even more awake after that, 'cause it was my mind keeping me up and after that walk, I had even more going on up there, lol.
@@VelkanAngels It is a very compelling argument. Whenever I had to go through challenging times. It always helped. Anecdotal evidence is not something that you should use and this is the reason. His argument however is supported by a pretty substantial amount of evidence. Physical activity do raise your overall well-being and sleep is included in that.
@@VelkanAngels Youre using the same words for different things. Youre exhausted for a completely different reason that a child playing in the forest all day is. And your one example with perhaps 2000 other variables isnt the general case. We know the benfits of being in nature, we know the benfts of excercise and creative play.
@@dimajo3057 - OP's claim is that being mentally tired doesn't help you sleep at night, whereas being physically tired DOES help you sleep at night. I'm not responding to an argument that being physically tired doesn't help you sleep better (which is what you're arguing), because no one MADE that claim.
You'd be surprised how much children can/will learn when you put trust in them.
americans would be surprised about a million things the rest of the world does
My daughter would come home from kindergarten and having being used to the adults there cutting out fruit like bananas and apples and such. So she would come home. Grab the biggest sharp kitchen knife the length of her entire arm and start cutting out fruit as a snack. Because the knife was sharp it was alot easier to manage for her than a small dull kids knife that wouldnt cut anything. It did scare a few family members but we never worried. She didnt once cut herself.
This is one of many reasons, why Denmark is one of the happiest countries. Kids can safely play outside, Babies nap outside, we don't fear being sued because a kid had a scratch, and we let children be that. We don't pace them to go to school at 5, they need to be allowed to be innocent children, as long as possible,
As a Dane i can tell you that it ain't all peaches, as it might seem from the outside.
Our "socaildemocratic" society has it's flaws.
Our healthcare system is free, but very stale. You won't get any experimental care, or even any innovation in our healthcare.
We just get the expensive care, that you can get in more advanced systems. We get plaine, basic, baseline care.
I'd never endorse it.
And that goes for most of our infrastructure.
It is just the most basic of need, that are being met and that at top dollar.
"There is nothing that the government can do for you, that a truely free economy can't do better!
We need good old capitalism, to get this ship back on course!!!
@@martinnielsen5851 WIldly misinformed. Plenty of very advanced health. We spend less time being sick, and have one of the best cancer screening programs in the world. What we don't do is bypass ethics to save lifes, and go directly from theory to phase1 trials, and skipping all the lab work.
And for instrastructure? Have you been outside Denmark? We are top 3 in the world onboth wired and wireless data transmission, have one of the most stable electrical grids,. Our water doesn't need treatment and rarely have main pipes that burst. 80% of the homes have secondary heating from powerplants instead of expensive in house oil or gas heating. We have some of the most highways per capita in Europe, and our roads and bridges are well maintained. Even our rail is actually doing pretty well compared to most of the world, we're just used to everything running so smoothly, that small problems become magnified 10 fold in our minds.
If we had a truely free economy we wouldn't have good infrastructure(just look at the current state ofthe crumbling infrastructure in the US), and we would pay much more for our healthcare. Capitalism works great for the 1%. The rest gets fucked by it.
@@martinnielsen5851 And what does that have to doe with being a child in kindergarden?
We danes don't have children. We have tiny Vikings that we raise to be large Vikings 😂
⬆ This 👍
Kom Nu, Recent DNA research by Danish scientists has revealed that the historical identity of the "Vikings" is more complex than previously believed. Contrary to the common perception of Vikings as exclusively Scandinavian, DNA sequencing of remains from Viking-era graves has shown genetic links to the Mediterranean region, suggesting a diverse and interconnected population.
Additionally, the term "Viking" itself originates from the Old Norse word "víkingr," which refers to seafaring raiders, and "víking" which means a pirate raid, indicating that "Viking" was as much an activity (to go Viking) as it was a description of a group of people. This underscores the fact that the historical Vikings were not a distinct ethnic group, but rather a variety of individuals engaged in raiding and exploration.
The image of today’s Danes as direct descendants of Vikings is further complicated by historical narratives and genetic evidence suggesting that many of the Viking raiders’ descendants were actually slaves captured during raids or people who migrated eastward into Denmark. An Icelander once mentioned to me that Denmark is only referenced twice in the Sagas, both times in the context of slave acquisition, highlighting a lesser-known aspect of Scandinavian history.
This evolving understanding challenges the traditional, homogeneous view of Viking heritage and suggests a more nuanced interpretation of Scandinavian history. So please, stop with the self-serving propaganda. You will be wearing a helmet with horns on it next.
@@davidsphererelax, you are too serious about it. We all know it was a mix of Scandinavia who went on raids. Slaves were picked up and was over time was integrated into the society.
Unless you have a time Machine you will never know what really happened.
@@davidsphere Way to go. You. Or something.
We all know we walked out of Africa. Everyone is African. Africa is in the south. We are in the North. Yes there are Mediterran GENs in us. We did not fly up here bypassing the middle. Geee
Also I hate to break it to you. But OPs comment was a joke. A well used and well loved one up here. One that takes a million forms and is understood by everyone.. Or maybe I should say everyone but you.
@@itchfinger It's a mix of more than that and depends what you mean by Scandinavian. Historical and genetic evidence suggests that human populations have always been dynamic and fluid. During and after the so-called Viking times. For instance, the latest DNA research indicates that much of today's ethnic Danish DNA can be traced back to origins in Kazakhstan.
The truth is the Viking legacy is mostly an impotent "Scandinavian" male fantasy ...unless you actually have a time machine to prove otherwise?
“When you chase a dream, especially one with plastic chests, you sometimes do not see what is right in front of you.” - Borat (A famous Scandinavian?)
the forest kindergarten - something completely normal in Denmark and Germany and something shocking in the USA... I'm glad that my children were allowed to grow up so freely and were able to play properly 😊
I was adopted to Denmark when I was 2, and I was lucky that my parents placed me in a forest kindergarten at 3½-4 years old.
From a very early age, I got a very special bond to nature, and all kind of animals. - 30 years later, my passion is still the outdoors, and I've been so lucky to work with wild animals aswell in Knuthenborg Safaripark in Denmark.
I believe the forest kindergarden was the 1st step in my life that lead me the right direction in life.
I live in Denmark, and as a child i climbed multiple tall trees, and the only thing the pedagogue said was "Now, you make sure you don't fall, all right?" And i was free to go. I never hurt myself
Same
I also got a "make sure you are able to climb down on your own"
"Troll ears" is a type of mushroom that grows on decaying wood :)
I'm Swedish living in the south of Sweden pretty much 30 minutes from Denmark, and I just love the mindset of the Danes. Great video 👍👍
A swede complimenting Danmark is rare - thank you 🫶🏼
We like you too Sweden, we just love to hate you >:)
I love Malmö more than any place in Denmark. 😀
@@juliebahnsen2490yeah I was surprised as well! I used to love Sweden and Swedes! But I think Swedes are often so.. unkind.. about Danes online, that I have begun changing my mind about them..
So it's very nice to see that it's #notallswedes ❤
I can like swedes again 😆😄😜❤️
@@juliebahnsen2490 Depends on how you read into it. When Scandinavians talk shit to each other, it's with a sparkle in the eye, I feel - then again there's the football fans...
When children feel free and you show them trust, then they don't feel the urge to break the rules.
If they want to go to the water, they simply ask an educator and then they find out if others want
to join them, before they go down to the water together with 1-2 educators.
My thoughts exactly. The kids aren’t stupid and they know they have a lot of freedom. So they know (instinctively, they probably can’t articulate it) that when they’re told "this is dangerous", it’s because it is, not because they’re being coddled.
I raised my children that way. They are 18 and 14 now. Both boys. They both don't feel like breaking the rules. As teenagers you can see the same behaviour: when they go out or stay longer somewhere they always make sure they are safe and we as parents know that.
I'm from Germany and I spend a similar youth in the 80ies, absolutely no bad injuries as far as I remenber. Even in the afternoon, parents said, you're back when it's getting dark and so we did. We took the horses and the dog and went down to the sea or in the forest. When somebody fall off a tree, put a tissue on and ready to go. People are to worried abaout everything these days and nobody can become independent anymore. A generation that is unable to make mistakes and learn from them...
same where i grew up in the UK, used to be able to climb up the tree to the flat roof of the first school also, so lunch breaks there were always kids on the roof of the school only one story up but as a 6 year old it was awesome.
In my nightborhood every kid knew if my dad was out yelling for me and then twins ,everyone did go home .even the kids who did live 2.5 km from us .there parents knew that if there kids came home my dad did tell ,and when he did pass away 11 years ago alot of the kids from that time .Came to say a finally good bye
Here, it was in 60ies...
Same in the 90's outside everyday until the streetlamps started. In the summer the sun did not set until 23:00 and in the winter it was down at 14:30
Fall of bikes, jump down cliffs, climb the school buildings. Nothing but bruises and memories
It's actually pretty simple - If kids are allowed to explore, and even to catch some minor bruises, the actively learn about the world, themselves, and not to forget, they learn to assess risks.
The core principle is not to forbid, but to teach them to be act responsible.
Our Kindergarten teaches 3 years old kids to chop wood, start a fire (by a fire fighter), to peel and slice food, and cook over the fire they made.
Instead of being pampered all the time, they learn to make it by themselves, the right way.
Dane here (I actually live only 30-40 miles from the kindergarten shown here 😊)... The forest kindergartens are actually highly sought after because the kids are active, learn to coordinate their bodies and are taught great life skills, all while having fun. Maybe surprisingly the number of injuries is no different than those of a regular kindergarten. I've worked in one of those and I think it's because those kids tend to get bored with the same toys and feel confined indoors so they either start something they haven't had instructions on how to do or they take out their excess energy on each other, in both cases often causing injuries. These kids come home ready to let loose, get inspired and get attention from their often exhausted parents whereas the forest kids come home mentally sated from learning and finding solutions, physically tired from all the activities and ready to wind down and relax. This is very generally speaking of course but based on my personal observations.
I live in Oslo Norway and at least once a week my kids (7 and 10), go to the woods with their class and learn stuff. They have knifes and learn how to not be afraid of snakes and animals that could be s bit scary. They also learn what plants you can eat, building shelters and bon fires. My kids teach me things i didn’t know when we hike in the forest in the weekends. We allways go off trail.
During covid in Denmark, my sons school had most of education outside if the weather was dry. It was such a succes, that they do more classes outside. Sometimes a whole day. It make them remember much better, more fit, good for the brain, better sleep.
Those "Spears" would be a "Snobrøds pind". A stick mde for the specific purpose of making stick bread (I hav no clue how else to describe it, lol) Basically, make a common enough dough out of water, salt and flour, roll it into long strings, attach to the end of the stick which you have cleaned of bark and made a nice pointy end for ou to attack said dough to, and roast it over the embers to create your very own bread. The pros make sure they are closed tight so you can fill it with jam before eating xD
..or simply use them sticks for hot dogs on a bonfire. BBQ 101.
Eller stærk ost og Nutella/honning. Koldt smør og leverpostej er også godt
I remember my friend falling past me out of a tree when we were playing outside here in Denmark. Guess what, she got up, brushed herself off and climbed right back up again as if nothing happened. Children bounce back amazingly.
5°C = 41°F
-20°C = -4°F
This! Important to remember: only the strange country of the USA uses Fahrenheit. All others have seen reason and standardized to one sensible temperature scale.😂😂
Metric ftw
@@RustyDust101 Myanmar and Liberia also uses Imperial, but they're switching to Metric, leaving the US the only country to still use Imperial.
That said, they do measure some beverages, and motors in metric AFAIK. Also I think that most sciences uses metric in the US. Actually.... Imperial has been standardized through the metric system, so you actually have a defined length for things like an inch. So in a roundabout way, imperial IS metric 😂
I'm from Germany and had the same experience as a child. It was awesome, an a very natural way of developing skills in life, wich i benefit and notice even today over oder people from the city. Those Kids gona be a different breed in the future. They are going to kick ass vs adults from a military bootcamp in a survival situation :D
Same here 👋🏻 my son also visited a school with a lot of outdoor activity in the forest. But... 😂🤷🏻♀️ his clothes! Every day you pick up a Lump of mud with a bobble hat...
@@Otte74 That's when you know they had a blast =)
@@Otte74 I had 3 mud kids , well a good thing was I could always see who WAS washed 😀😀😀😀
I watched a 3 year old today climbing up a huge slide completly on its own and I thought : That wouldn't be possible in the States.
"What the hell is that child doing up there ?"
Having fun. Learning to climb and maintain balance.
Both my kids went to such a kindergarten. Best thing ever. Seriously.
Kids get nightmares from schoolshootings!
Auch
K.O.
Shots fired.....
Not just the school shootings themselves, even the active shooter drills can be quite disturbing for kids.
Yeah, as a kid, trolls are something you're looking for.
Born in 78 and I went to forest kindergartens from age 4-6 here in Denmark. and I am so Glad I did :)
Over 300.000 years, kids havent seen any fances!
Just neglect and beatings... Let's be fair. It hasn't been all roses. The kindergartens here are better than what my parent had. Just a: "Go out and play. Be back for supper". It was very normal to have children running and playing, on quiet streets, without supervision. Before the information age, we had a lot of innocence, that we really can't have anymore.
In 1985 Denmark added the law that makes it illegal to hit your child... or really it said that it was the duty of the parent to protect their child from physical and mental abuse. The law was changed in 1997 make it illegal (and punishable)
Hi fro Denmark. This is such a succes kids develop real skils. Its not just sitting still
😂😂the best thing about this video is seeing your reaction 🤣🤣 as a Dane, we dont even blink 🤷♀️❤️
The key is baby steps. Let them climb 5 feet high while grabbing the jacket. Tell them how to do it safely and what to watch out for. Let them prove themselves, then you allow more, like 10 feet high. After they proudly prove themselves again, they are responsible enough to assess the risk on their own and climb as they see fit.
100% When they learn its the way backwards, thats is the hard part. you can let them loose ;)
Exactly.
Teach them that they get more freedom by earning our trust and they'll want to.
You only get people that rebel against everything when they're not allowed to be free enough to begin with...
Make them feel involved in decision making processes and genuinely respected and they'll respect you back.
In Germany these palces are called "Waldkindergarten" ... kids learn at a very young age how to use knives, tools and even how to start a camp fire! Sometimes they are catching fish and grill them or are collecting mushrooms, wild berries, plants, aso. to eat them. Very smart kids! Most of the young kids are already going there on their own - walking, scooting or even by bike. Quite impressive, right? :) And every day a new adventure for these little kids, instead of just playing daily in a sandbox or something like that.
Letting your kids explore, learn, develop skills and know they're trusted, goes suuuuuuuuuuch a long way.
One of the great virtues of living in Denmark.
Thank you so much for an entertaining reaction 👍😊Children who have been in forest kindergarten become more social, gain more self-confidence, become robust both physically and mentally. So far, only some schools here in Denmark have outdoor education one or two days a week, but I don't think it will be long before many classes move the whole school day outside, because it has been shown that children taught in nature are much more motivated for learning and also more healthy. So what´s not to love ?😊
Hey i am Danish and I went to a Forest kindergarden !! We caught bugs by the small river streams, build swings and ziplines in the trees. We made fires to cooked and make popcorn sometimes and in the winter we went to the cow fields next to the kindergarden to go sleding. I absolutly loved it! ❤
I am afraid that all you teach your kids in US is to be scared to live a full and independent life cause everywhere lurks danger. No wonder it is a goldmine to be a therapist.
This is the way we did grow up 45 years ago, we wasnt packed in cotton, We got to take tools into the forrest and make cabins in the trees
in Denmark, we give our kids a LOT of freedom, with only a FEW rules, as we wanna trust them, but it sounds like in USA, u give kids a LITTLE freedom, with a LOT of rules, coz u DONT trust them... this way we build strong and resilient kids, while having them learn social skills at the same time... the more rules u give a kid, the more they dont wanna follow them... let them fall down, let them hurt them self, let them touch the hot hotplate once, so they can LEARN from it... PS: yeah, there's some Forest Kindergartens in USA, u should look up a few vids of it, as they are here on YT, and react to them if u want...
my first thought is yes, but then im reminded of americas healthcare, if your child ever needed a visit to the hospital...
That is a very good point. In Denmark healthcare is totally free.🇩🇰🇺🇲
Even kindergartens in suburbs usually have a forrest cabin for summer time where kids get to run around the forrest and you'll find kids not much older than some of these kids going to school on their own.
Dane here! 🇩🇰
I went to a similar kinder garden as a child. I remember only awesome stuff about it, nobody got any injured , nobody got sued, and nobody was locked inside some big fence all day. The fact that we can do stuff like this, says more about the general secure way we live, so nobody bats an eye, if a child climbs a tree, and personally I believe, the earlier in life you learn valuable lessons, the more they stick. So seeing videos of children with a knife, is no red flag at all here, it's a learning situation, and if you fall down a tree, you'll learn, either to be more careful the next time, or not to be as brave the next time. 😅
But very interesting - I never gave it much though, but wouldnt assume that you'd find the forest kinder gardens like this in a place like the states, but at the same time I never expected that a lot of people actually prefers this way of hanging out with their kids would be so "controversial", that SBS Australia would make a piece on it, and I'd see an american make a reaction video to it. 😄
Also, regarding the security/safety.. Something CAN go wrong, i'm not gonna try to say otherwise, but when stuff is one in a mill, and when your hole personal economy and life isn't on the line, if a family member breaks a limb or gets sick and such, but you just go to the hospital or doctor and get it fixed as best possible, without having to pay huge bills for the next decade, the worry also goes down for sure, but i'm not trying to open up on any health care debates here, just saying it is probably one of the least worrying things we have, when delivering a child into kinder gardens.
(btw kinder garden stems from German, where kinder means child and garten is, well garden. So the litteral translation is "childs garden" - and gardens are of course on the outside 😉)
LOL as a danish mother it is so hilarious to see this video and hear your comments 😆😆 its only few kindergardens that go to the forest every day, but its the wisest strongest kids who has got this amazing start from 2/3 years old until 6 years old when school starts. The kids are so much happier in these kindergardens. And it is quite normal in Denmark to communicate with and trust your kids to understand rules. No kid wants to drown or hurt himself.
You say "when" he falls and not "if" he falls. I find that quite provocative.
At no time it struck you, that the climbing kid may be a master in tree climbing?
As a Dane, I climbed trees, (including our 10m (32ft) cherry tree) as a kid, like my life depended on it. I never fell from any tree and got hurt.
The word kindergardener or kindergarden comes from the german word Kindergarten - child’s garden. It’s the original. It’s not quite the same.
In US the kindergarden is like a pre school and in Germany/Austria it is only for playing and learning social skills. In the last year of Kindergarten there is some learning included to get fit for the school.
Love from Austria 🇦🇹
Kindergarten is spelled with "t", even in English. It just sounds like a "d" when pronounced.
omg - you are absolutely correct - no wonder I never graduated from KindergarDEN
@@ReactionsbyD I don't even want to know what kind of DEN you were in... lol
@@NerdyCompetence well, it doesn't seem like it was DENmark ;)
Lucky children! This is basically my childhood on a farm in Denmark in the 60s but without the farm work I had to do.
PS: Avi Kaplan dropped his “Feel alright” EP today, including a real banger “Good good love”.
In danish you use the same word for "learn" and "teach", so the Pedagogue accidentally says learn instead of teach - just to clear up. As for the tree climbing child, look closely at his technique. He is really skilled and careful. Many forest kindergartens in Denmark are "safer" than this one, without open water nearby, but kids can still have small accidents.
My son have now a so called "Draußen Schule (outside school). The first two units every Friday the whole class is in the forest and learning about nature and play in the nature.
A nice concept here in Germany.
My daughter (now 12) was very shy for a long time and didn’t want to leave my side. I was worried for her, that she missed experiences with friends.
Then I put her in the scouts activites when she was 8. They were outdoors all the time, learned how to make fire, use knife etc.
She grew so much and got more confidence. She’s still participates and loves going away on camps.
Lesley Riddoch has made some documentaries about the Scandinavian countries (in connection with discussions in Scotland). In Norway, when she visited a kindergarten, a child started crying. In her Q&A, she regretted not showing what happened next. No adults ran over: the other children began to console. Children are usually born with empathy and automatically comfort each other. .........Education in CARING for each other! If it would be more serious, they would fetch an adult, but if not, kids are happy to take responcibility
There's a plentiful amount of studies that have shown that on average a child's brain simply hasn't developed far enough by the age of 6 to learn to read and write. It happens on average at the age of 6.5 years.
Before that however a child's brain is absolutely geared towards learning languages and motor skills. It's muscles grow at an exponential rate. If a body builder could get the same percentage of muscle growth and density as a child they'd be incredibly happy.
That's why focussing on those areas of development in a child's life is so incredibly important.
In addition to that the constant movement outside, in fresh air, supplied a lot of oxygen as well as vitamin D production (through exposure to natural sunlight). In Denmark and other nordic countries the sun is often hidden behind clouds, or doesn't even rise for long, so every minute of exposure to sunlight in winter is great.
Kids also develope stamina and endurance as well as balance and distance perception by being outside running around a lot easier than if they focus on screens or books while sitting still.
The last aspect is that kids often have an absolutely astonishing amount of energy to burn off.
Basically a forest kindergarten combines virtually all of the positives possible to improve a kid's development from the get-go.
Sure, they will get dirty, cold, and wet, maybe get a splinter or even a cut. Even a minor fracture is part of life growing up.
But there's no use in swaddling kids in bubble wrap until they reach 18 years. They have to learn what minor pain is, and differentiate it from real pain. They can't learn that if EVERY. SINGLE. BUMP results in them being mollycoddled by helicopter parents. That doesn't mean that kids are intentionally injured but minor injuries are acceptable as part of growing up. Kids also won't understand why an adult might tell them that some things are actually, truly dangerous if EVERYTHING they want to do is considered "too dangerous". They have to learn to trust in their own strength, endurance, and balance, to judge what they are actually able to do, and when to push their boundaries, and when to accept them.
Helicoptering does not allow that. The results can be seen already, and they aren't enviable or desirable.
I used to work in a kindergarden/school. No fence, 2 shelters, a forrest, an outdoor toilet, and a bonfire house to warm us up in the wintertime. The only thing we had to get the children back to the main house, was a old bell... it worked wonders. never lost a kid. sometimes i took some of the kids out on a trip to a very small wooden house to do some school related work in an outdoor inviroment (math ect.). it was very fun and "Hyggeligt". i loved spending time with the kids outside and i think i learned as much from them as they did from me.. (like not taking life so serious and that theres more to life then what you wear and how you look.)
Excellent job climbing that tree little man. Keep it up. Also being from Denmark I can say that I would have loved to attend one of these kindergartens, but even in a "normal" one, I still climbed plenty of trees.
" You have to learn them to be interesting in learning" , wise words spoken by Johan ( 16.08min).
The thing you were missing was the temperature. We use Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. 5 degrees celsius is about 40ish fahrenheit. And -20 celsius is about -4 fahrenheit.
I send my son to forrest kindergarten it was the best thing i ever done now he goes in seven great he's never sick super resilient he never gives up on nothing and i know it's from the kindergarten🎉
I was a pædagog/kibdergarten employee back in last of 1980's - we started at 07:30 and we was going All day long, playing, eating (in rain or heavy snow) in a *shelter* - after that out again working, look at the animals in the Woods.
We don't dramatize we learning the kids to use the tools in away to *survive*. With 15: 00 we usually go back to the main kindergarten.
The same program year out, playing, learning, eating and make fire places.
Born and raised in the US. Came here as a young man.... And every young person asks themselves, "How do I want to raise my child?!" -- Well, it was a 'no-brainer' for me! I've lived here for 40 years now and never regretted a day! Our son went to a forest kindergarten! So this and so many other things in Denmark make this country so amazing. And also so difficult to explain to Americans, that other ways of life actually exist ...and are better than the American (cottonball) way! I had the same reaction as D, but I was at a place in my life, where I wasn't bound and could make choices! Like I say, ...never regretted a day living here!!!
PS. The main theme here is - TRUST! We trust each other. We trust the police, we trust the politicians (we may disagree with them, but we trust them). Denmark is the least corrupt country in the world!
The amount of weapons/guns in the US tells a little something about the amount of trust in the US....
Yeah.
Considering the US has 63% of the world's lawyers and 86% of the world's lawsuits, speaks volumes about priorities.
i came home with bruises and cuts everyday when i went to a Forest kindergarten, the pedagogue told my parant upon pickup and that was that, but i would never change it for anything, i loved it...glad i grew up in the 90's, parents in Denmark has also become overly protective of their kids..
As a teacher in Denmark, I agree about parents (and the schools) becoming overly protective.
It is about trust and childrens evelopment; you don't start by going to the top of a tree, when you natually begins trying to climb at age 1 -1,5 + years; you develop your skills along the way, just like you do in most thing in life -crawling before walking ect.
Yesteday I saw a 4 year old climbing up the wall of the castelruins nearby, where I live, and her mothers reaction was to take of the girls boots and socks for a better grip of the feets. 😊
Greetings from a danish grandma. 🇩🇰
”What is that child doing in the tree??” Answer: ”Learning”. At an age not much above this I climbed a 40 foot tree. I remember the experience of looking over the buildings. Over the other trees. To the horizon. Very empowering.
Greetings from Northern Germany. My son went to a forest kindergarden and it was THE best, especially for his ADHD. I watched this video in part together with him. When I translated your concerns he was just completely puzzled why on earth you'd worry about those things 😅
In Denmark we can't sue eachother over EVERYTHING. The lawyers and judges will laugh you out of the courtroom if you tried to sue over most things Americans get sued over. In Denmark, you'd be told, to bad, so sad, deal with it. LOL.
I think one of the absolutly most important lesson is that actions have consequences, you don't learn that if everyone goes around wrapping you in bubble wrap. You go close to the water, you don't listen, you will fall in, you will get wet and cold, you will learn to listen, so that next time you don't fall in the water.
one of the best ways of learning is doing dangerous things carefully
We have free health care, so accidental accidents, which lead to physical injuries, do not lead to any financial problems. Children learn from their mistakes, and pain, which stems from non-violence, is a great way to learn to balance between behavior and consequence
Funny thing is. In all of us; when we are trusted with something, we rise to the occasion. Kids, adolescence, grown ups and old people a like. We dont let others or ourselves down, if we are trusted with an assignment or resoonsability; we grow ❤
If we are not trusted, we don't grow anything but aggitated.
Telling kids not to make mistakes or have them experience their limits.
Same goal different outcome.
How do you expect kids to be responsible if you don’t trust them with any responsibility?
Experience is the greatest teacher
The way these kids learn how to use a knife, is the same way I was tought how to ride a bicycle. I did fall a lot but I learned how to keep the balance and my bicycle became my transportation to get to school. I am forever thankful that my parents did not just drive me everywhere.
I remember climbing trees like that high in the kindergarten as well, like 28y ago. Good times.
I can not help thinking about the fact that an US American calls us crazy for teaching common wilderness skills, when many US citizens thinks nothing about teaching kids firearms skills, has unsupervised firearms ending up in mentally distraught kids hands and think 4 firearms average per citizen is anything even remotely normal.
Which ones of those crazies leaves most corpses?
you learn really fast not to fall down from trees, some of my absolute strongest memories of my childhood is from the forest kindergarten klø-pulver (itch-dust) which was this berry looking plant that made you insanely itchy (not fun getting down the neck mid summer first thing in the morning), sitting in viking graves/ dents in the forest sipping strawberry tea while the pedagog told mysteries stories, learning about different mushrooms and some are poisonous others aren't. It may not seem like it, but somehow we are very prepared for the outdoor as children, don't know if it's how we are raised before kindergarten or what it exactly is, but we are already adapted for the outdoors when we start forest kindergarten and if we aren't then the parent may want to keep their kid in the regular kindergarten which is also totally normal here. but I have to add that I greatly enjoyed watching your reaction to what for me is the most normal thing in the world, so thank you for this throwback memory lane and thank you for sharing mate ! o7
Kindergarten is the proper spelling in English. The word comes from German: kinder=children, garten=garden. In Danish it's called "børnehave" (børn=children, have=garden)
This is very common for children in the nordic countries. You will see kindergardens like this all over Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland and Iceland.
In short, here in Denmark we trust our children and we trust the people who devote their lives to take care of them in our (parents) absence
I'm Danish, and see nothing 'wild' about this? It's fresh, and it's good!
This is actually from my city, and I have worked there a few times since I'm a pedagouge too.. I would say I was very surprised the first time I was there about how chill everyone was.. It was soo different but soo nice and refreshing.. Normal kindergartens could learn a lot from forest kindergartens 😊
As a kid I was actually in the Forest Kindergarten in this video. There was also a lake nearby that was refered to as _The lake without a bottom_ as to avoid us going there. There was also a swamp nearby and one time a mate of mine lost his rubber boot to the mud... That was a scary incident.
I spent my time there eating like dirt and leaves and plants. I think that's the reason i'm not a vegetarian today. 10/10 awesome place to grow up as a child, learning about tadpoles, frogs, foxes and stuff... And when I fell down from a tree or something you got a bandaid with Batman on and a little peptalk and then you were back out there playing.
One time my dad got mad that I was really muddy and dirty when he picked me up, so he stripped me down to my underpants in the parking lot in March in front of everyone before getting in the car. That was the most traumatizing event in the Forest Kindergarten and it wasn't even their fault...
When kids first learn to walk. They fall over all the time. That experience teaches the body how to avoid falling because itll hurt. Its how we learn these things.
Theres nothing to worry about with these kindergartens.
I didn't go to a forest kindergarten, but my sister did. Instead, my father taught me how to use a knife before I can remember. We had a forest near our home as well where I went in my free time. Difference is, we were 2-5 kids with no adults present.
The school my mother sends her foster kids to is very focused on outdoor activity and individual learning. The classes aren't entirely based on your age, but instead on your level. Those who excel are taught other stuff so they're not bored and those who lack behind are shown extra attention.
Uhm … it's actually "kindergarten" in English (although "kindergarden" is a common misspelling). It’s a loan word from German.
It is really very simple😊. Children start kindergarten at 3 years old, and by that age they cannot physically climb very high so the falls will be short. They will fall, they will cry, they will learn not to fall as it hurts with no long time consequences. And by the time they can climb to the top of trees they know to be carefull. Also they learn what to do and not to do from the older kids, kids look out for eachother.
They also help preparing the food (with sharp knives), make fires and cook on open bonfires, make bows and arrows and much much more. This makes them very self sufficient at an early age. I have let all of my kids walk or bike home solo from school by the age of 8 and stay home alone while I did the shopping by 10 (or to go to the shops unsupervised). Even my youngest who has autism! Simply put I trust my kids because I know that they know how to handle themselves in the world. ❤❤❤
I'm proud to be Danish.
The Vikings, nature 😊
But I find it amusing that this American guy talks about children not being able to use knives in the U.S., but it's no problem giving them a gun to shoot with 😂
Great memories, i remember back in kindergarten, i got hurt often. Minor sprains, cuts and bruises were normal and the teachers never got chewed out by the parents.
I even remember climbing to the top of an old chinese water fir tree around 45+ feet tall.
last week I just started my new job as a pedagouge on a danish school, and despite living here for 20 years now, I still am amazed at how well the children listen when we tell them stuff.
I remember when I, at 8 or 9 years old, was part of making my own knife. I got to work on the handle while my teacher applied the blade. Denmark is definetly an interesting country at times.
Being from Denmark I wasn't shocked by any of this when I heard about it, although I was shocked how foreigners reacted.
I grew up spending a lot of off-school hours in a "SFO" (After-school program), which like 99% of kids did as well, as this is largely paid through taxes, and parents can get economic support per child for it (amongst other things).
I learned how to make a primitive bow, sharpen a knife, cut down trees, make campfires, climbed trees (taller than the one you saw), ride motocross, make and use stone slings.... And all of this we did with minimal adult supervision.
we were like 10-15 kids with 1 adult, as he we used knives to sharpen sticks for baking bread on a fire we made, and then we went 10-ish kids to the motocross lane and drove 3 at a time, with 1 adult overlooking it (they were limited to 40km/h).
This has been a completely normal thing for decades, children fall and get bruises, and then they learn how to avoid it from happening again.
We were also allowed to freely roam around animals, such as a donkey, horses, goats, rabbits, and chicken... They were fenced in, but we often climbed over it and pet the animals, which was allowed as long as we behaved calmly and treated the animals well.
We also used to go to frozen lakes and play on the ice, which was probably the most dangerous thing we did, but the rule was that we had to notify an adult, and then they'd come watch us, but they totally allowed us jumping on the ice, sometimes we fell through and got REAL cold for a few minutes, then we learned not to jump on the ice :D
(This is a fond memory of mine)
We also had indoor playrooms, where there was a ball pit and large amounts of pillows for playing - we used to have all out warfare in there, and the adults typically joined in... A few kids lost a tooth, but that was about it, no drama at all, they got some ice cream and joined 10 minutes later.
And the parents just explained that it was a consequence of participating in such activities, but that never stopped us anyways!
I have totally respect for these kids and there mom's and Dad's I wish I had this in my town when I was growing up
That's how I grew up.I'm old now,still climbing trees.
i loved climbing in the trees and see how high could get, and it wasnt only in kindergardens.
Im from Denmark and i too went to a forest kindergarden, once u make a friend there, u are friends for life.
My kid’s in one of these, but they don’t spend the whole day outside. They do take their jackets off, sit down and read books too.
And just to be clear; there are no fjords in Denmark. That’s only Norway and Sweden.
I assume that kid has climbed dozens of smaller trees (maybe fell off once or twice) before he dared to climb so high.
American father: "OMG You'll NEVER climb any tree again!!!"
Dansk father: "Well done my lil' Viking! I'm proud of You!"
I think, the most weird thing about others reaction to our forest kindergartens are that, they are worried about all these things, that don't happen. If kids here were seriously hurt on a regular basis, it wouldn't be allowed here..... BUT it doesn't happen, or at least so rare that it's practically unheard of.... So if injuries don't happen, why should we be afraid? To be fair, we are probably much more relaxed if anything does happen - A rock to the face is probably something most children here has experienced and it's not that big of a deal :)
Always a real pleasure your reactions!
i Think part of the reason parents in Denmark is not that afraid is that all healthcare is free, so the child can get hurt, learn from it, and that's it. No monitary deficit, no suing the kindergarten
It is not becauce of free healtcare. We are so used to free healtcare. We dont think much abort it😊😊.
In Norway we also have outdors kindergarden.
The children learn so much.
❤️ from Norway
Scandinavians are badass 🇩🇰👍🏻
Greetings from your brother of Denmark.
02:15 climbing trees is such a normal part of our childhood! And yes sometimes we fall out, but nothing horrible has happened from it in my experience. I fell out of a tree once, but all that happened to me was i knocked the wind out of me. Luckily i landed on the grass and not the pavement a meter to the side. I also had a friend who fell out of a much taller tree, but luckily all that happened to him was that he knocked his shoulder out of the socket, he managed to reset it himself. Remember we used to be vikings, kids here arent babied AS much at least as in the US and other western places. 😂 Kids learn best by experience. If you do something stupid and get hurt, you wont do it again.
I'm from Denmark, and I used to play like this as a child, but I didn't realize that we have actual kindergartens like this. 4 year old me would've loved this.
My forest kindergarten teachers, forgot me in the middle of the forest, because I was taking a piss behind a bush. I sat in an opening crying for what must be 2 hours, til a forest ranger miraculously found me, while he was out driving his ATV. He drove me back to his place, found the number to my parents in my backpack, called them, he drove me home. That was the day I turned 4, and I was just overjoyed I got to drive along on the ATV. The kindergarten had not noticed me going missing before my parents told me. Still I wanna take my kids to a forest kindergarten, when I have some.
A knife-less man. Is a lifeless man..... Old Viking proverb. Greetings from Denmark. 😁