The RISE and FALL of Mindcrack SMP - The Predecessor of Hermitcraft...
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2024
- Mindcrack, the first minecraft youtuber SMP which inspired hermitcraft, and brought dozens of unique and popular minecraft youtubers together. The server saw immense popularity, but then things didn't go as intended. So what happened?
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Now theres a lot more to the mindcrack group including their UHC's and charity events, but for this video I just wanted to focus on the rise and fall of their survival server.
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Hi! I didn’t expect you to upload rn!
Ok
I'm suprising that you didnt mention the mindcrack minigame server, and the drama with bruce willakers I guesse you were more focused on the smp server
hi dude your videos are awsome
Are you planning on doing a video on Boffy? his channel literally exploded somewhat inexplicably
I think Etho low-key is minecraft's one true goat. He's got his LP series which may be the greatest minecraft LP ever. He was a huge part of Mindcrack and now he's really finally making a mark on Hermitcraft. He's extremely well respected by his peers. Huge youtubers like mr beast have claimed Etho as their inspiration. Minecraft developers have been known to watch Etho and he got his own block in the April fools update. Yet, he flys under the radar of the greater UA-cam scene.
He flys under the radar because he's not a sellout and he doesn't cather to children through clickbait thumbnails and such. Regardless of his popularity, he's the best content creator I know.
@@vicentedillon4885 I mean honestly, most hermits go under the radar, except for mumbo and grian. They all have amazing content but I think its honestly just the fact that minecraft isn't s popular as it used to be. and even mumbo and grian combined have just over the amount of subscribers dream has, so they're not even at the forefront of " the greater UA-cam scene".
I might even go one further and say that he’s UA-cam’s one true GOAT, hes been putting out consistently better content and has only improved with time. He also has maybe the last remaining comment section on the site, it isn’t full of memes, but people actually responding to the video. There isn’t one UA-cam channel that I’ve been watching longer and for good reason.
Man too true. It's very hard to explain why Etho's so special. I think it boils down mostly to just his personality and approach to things. I've watched a lot of UA-camrs and none have what Etho has. So glad he's back on Hermitcraft and killin it.
Ah the half TNT, good times
Crazy how so many people in these comments have never heard of Mindcrack. My whole childhood honestly. Etho, Guude, Seth, Beef; all those, guys I was obsessed with. Crazy stuff
Thats how I feel about the UA-cam community back in the cod 4-mw3 days
Luckily I was able to catch the last popular Mindcrack season just in time. It's insane how long ago that was.
Its insane to think that I've been watching etho for 8 years, and I'm 19 now. Mindcrack indeed was my childhood.
@@joeyk._ I think ive been watchign since 2013/14 (maybe 2012?) i honesty dont remember lol. but seth was the first mine craft youtuber that blew my mind, then i found etho and he shot up to first place in no time and has stayed there since
Maybe it's because I joined UA-cam in 2014. It was around January.
The curses of the mindcrack server: 1. Always raining 2. You know season ending is close when bdubs and etho start a big project together
Arenas are always server killers! Unless Xizuma builds them.
Omg it always rained
...and don't prank Zisteau, maaaan don't prank Zisteau.
The latter is still true to this day 🤣🤣
@@gogglyboi6403 lol i dont think bdubbs and etho have ever finished a big project together.
The best part of this server HAS TO BE when Etho finaly got a kill with an anvil.
YES god I remember that!
Took him days, but it was worth it
@@icyproblem Days? More like months.
I'm pretty partial to Team Canada's pranks
The Jaaski incident. sigh
The fact that Etho is uncomfortable in signing that contract is so etho
Yeah totally get it. He's his own (private) person. I like him on his own doing stuff and being invited to play way better than needing to be part of something.
Honestly lmao
That video was very sad imo. Etho sounded so disturbed.
@@ajinkyatarodekar9099 He had every right to be disturbed. He was doxxed (and possibly stalked?) once just based on vague info from his videos and it was a miracle the community expunged it so readily and thoroughly. He probably feared even worse happenings if he were required to divulge more personal info in a contract and/or show up to events in person.
Star Sumiaki when was he almost doxxed?
These guys are legends.
Hi Ely!
Hey ELEbeatmaker
You too ely! You were right there with them dropping bangers like "it's two bajs"
Love your music Ely!!!!!
You make some dead music
I wonder how many UHC players realize Mindcrack made that mode up themselves.
lol true
I KNOW RIGHT?! I was just thinking about this and experiencing a "chicken or the egg" situation because I couldn't remember if they were just playing on that gamemode, or if they started that game mode and it was eventually added to Minecraft
Because I could've sworn that they introduced it as a brand new idea at the time
@@alyssa09485 i'll never forget s1, mindcrack was the go-to server series at the time.
@@alyssa09485 Someone who watched Beef's videos helped make a mod that prevented health regen, so they used a fan made mod at first. Later the game mode was added to the game, but it was quite literally invented by the Mindcrackers
very few
Thinking about Mindcrack is nostalgic... I miss waiting for Etho’s next upload back in 2012-2013, or the next episode of UHC. At least Etho still makes insanely high quality content that I can still enjoy all these years later.
Etho's production value when through the roof since the pandemic. I've always enjoyed his videos but in the last couple months, they've been even more fun for me.
I love the noteblock music he's been adding in the background! He's always been so good with his really smooth cuts between clips. I remember once he nearly got me by spawning a wither in his base but then cutting to the desert. Great stuff
even watching back those older videos... wow the sheer quality! :O
So does BDoubleO!!
@@LeeAnnC yes! I love the noteblock music. It's a perfect minecraft thing, and helps with the monotony of minecraft events sometimes as well
My all time favorite MindCrack moment is a tie between “The King of the Ladder” and the time they did a ton of mock UHC’s.
King of the Boat was a favorite of mine where while fixing Bdubs’ roof they decided to flood it and jump off platforms in the arena!
@@LethalityLIVE that is a good one. It’s been a while since I’ve watched those episodes.
Yeah I still go back and watch those, just brilliant. It was the peak of simple minecraft fun
I loved the challenge maps the mindcrack members did (especially team Canada) like capture the wool and others
@@inhaspie definitely dude, I watched every single one of Team Canada’s episodes (from Etho’s perspective) and highlights.
Hearing that modern MC players don't know MindCrack makes me feel so old and I'm 18.
I had to explain in the comments of one of etho’s new vids that he and bdubs have known each other for at least 7 years and were in mindcrack together. The person didn’t even know what mindcrack was and I had to explain that too, im only 20 but i feel so old.
Bro im 15 and i feel old i used to watch mindcrack exclusively and loved it...especially ethos videos which i still watch
Get off my lawn. I watched the Internet change, and the old Internet die. The one good thing to have come out of that was Mindcrack. And that too faded away. You runts aren't old. Hell I'm 40 and I'm not even old yet. This process of accelerating generational gaps. Its not healthy, its not normal, and it is driven by evil people with evil intentions! Mark my words, you and us we will be shoulder to shoulder before the end.
@@hawhafunnyraffs5568 I'm 31, and I hear you!
It's truly amazing how MindCrack and Minecraft in general bridged so many of us.
Age is a frustrating thing. Sometimes I think that we aren't supposed to know our ages, because it makes us decide to slow down.
For example I'm a rock climber, and I'm pretty good at it. I hadn't even been active at all less than a decade ago.
@@cxx23 Remember! 50% of your grip strength comes from the pinky!
Mindcrack was a part of my childhood, same with Etho
etho was part of my childhood and remains to be part of my adulthood lol
same
Mindcrack walked so Hermitcraft could run
Now I love Hermitcraft, but Mindcrack in its prime was its own beast. Hahaha I don't mean to "back in my days" you, but Mindcrack still holds beloved childhood memories for a lot of people, me included! Some wonderful moments that I don't believe can truly ever be re-created in current day Minecraft UA-cam.
@@portiachambers6348 No, I agree. I was not around UA-cam during MindCrack, but seeing some of the older videos is great. I just think that they laid the president for what a SMP server could be, while HermitCraft simply expanded upon that with modern resources. MindCrack was great, but I don't put one over another, just because of how the game has changed, allowing SMPs to thrive. I am just happy that both exist in the UA-cam archives, though.
14 minutes and 0 mentions of one of the best mindcrackers of all time Zisteau
Etho and Bdubs fans may know him as "the E pranker"
Z needs room to dedicate creativity, I don't know if an SMP like HermitCraft would be big enough for him these days. I imagine he would have beaten everyone in Decked Out and made his own secrets in the dungeon haha. Satisfactory is hardly big enough for his game play depth, I'm sure he will reach the game limits in the coming month.
@@HumanPersonNotOrangutan yea man! Around a month ago i went back and started watching his inferno mines LP.. i might rewatch pantheon after because those 2 maps are 2 of the best CTMs out there
Lets get Zisteau on Hermitcraft
@@logistaur speaking of inferno mines he also didn't mention Vechs... not that Vechs was a big well known mindcracker or anything but he was well known for his maps
@@BanakaiGames Veches deserves a whole video just about him and his awesome super hostile series (+ pantheon eventho it was a group project)
Also uncharted territory maps deserve credit too!
I’m so happy to see someone mention Paulsoresjr. He was the first UA-camr I subbed to and I’m so glad to see him get recognition.
He's how I found Mindcrack, and how I became a fan of VintageBeef. Before psj joined Mindcrack, I'd never heard of any of them.
He is how I know about mindcrack too! I still watch him, grian and scar
that man is the whole reason I bought minecraft
@@ew8438 fr his videos were so entertaining, watching him play made me want to play minecraft so bad
@@ew8438 same for me
i remember watching Vintage Beef's prank wars for hours on end and rewatching them so much. I still hav 'Pink sheep' and 'Floating blocks of ice' Stuck in my head lmao
You've reminded me of a memory I completely forgot about, even elibeatmaker parodied floating block of ice, so good.
Yes! I sometimes rewatch the pranks wars
Its 2 baj's, there coming to your town
Classic prank wars
@@zane_sadauskis 2 bajs was the best. 100%
Minecrack’s days were numbered when the server reseted without much reason, there wasn’t really any fitting ending for “seasons”. This caused a huge blow to moral and interest while the new seasons lacked much purpose. They also lacked hardcore players and people were treating the game as if it were singleplayer too often. Its difficult being first, but it paved the way big time for future servers.
I still remember watching a zisteau video and him talking about how he could spend alot more time working on the arcology, might go back and watch all the way through that one.
The SMP server I was a part of took a lot of inspiration from MindCrack, and the resets were one of them. So much work was tossed out just so the new world could have granite, andesite, and diorite, even though you could just go exploring.
It's partly Mojang's fault for having significant generation changes in 1.7 and 1.8, but so many people got so hyped for the changes that they stopped playing while waiting several months for the new biomes/blocks, and that killed so many SPM servers. And then Mojang did nothing for the next 4 years, so yeah.
I don't think it was that, it was also a lot about changes to UA-cam, a shrinking audience due to the game getting less popular (and the players getting tired of the game too!), and how streaming on twitch became more lucrative for popular players.
@@Mnnvint This is very true. UA-cam was THE place to watch people doing Let's Plays, and then the good ol' algorithm decided to reprioritize things. Ad revenue changing. The rise of streaming. So many things contributed to it all.
S3 was my peak but I could see why they ended it as things were getting stale. The abrupt ending of S4 in what felt like a short time followed by the gimmicky map of S5 and the leaving of members like Bdubs and Etho pretty much sealed the deal for me. I still followed some of the creators but for their non minecraft content bc the whole server thing got stale
I've heard of Mindcrack quite a bit, but never watched any of it myself.
Some of it is still quite enjoyable. My personal favourite would be Ethoslab FTB season 1 and 2 and the survival of the fittest series. I don’t find the smp holds up to the standards set by Hermitcraft nowadays and the like though.
@@electricsheep007 I still like to look back to the smp sometimes. It isn't on as much of a grand scale as hermitcraft, but I feel as if it was more genuine. There was more interaction between the members (from random encounters to the pranks), and they weren't as scripted I feel.
i didnt really watch it too much as it was just beginning to fall when i got into youtube but I did watch ethos side of things sometimes. i didnt understand how youtube worked at the time lol. now i still watch etho but now i know how youtube and hermitcraft work
@@buriedalive3192 ooo I know what you mean, now that you’re saying that. I’ll have to go back and watch them again, it’s been a little while.
What are you doing mate? Go watch ethos mindcrack series.
Missed so many things that were awesome of Mindcrack: King of the Ladder, Prank Wars, Zisteau (king of pranks and giant concepts), inventing UHC, Race for the Wool (featuring Super Hostile/CTM inventor Vechs), Guudeland.
In the end I believe Mindcrack declined and Hermitcraft rose for a simple reason: Guude just liked talking while playing games, and minecraft was just a medium, not his passion. Like he said he was bored playing alone when he started Youtubing it. That's why it diversified into other games and marathon event shows.
Meanwhile, Hermitcraft (after GB left) was a democracy formed around minecraft. Everything they did was minecraft. So decisions were made to grow Minecraft content, not to grow a group that sometimes did minecraft.
yes I couldn't believe the prank culture in mindcrack wasn't mentioned, or megabuilds especially by Zisteau (the apocalypse city that he blew up)
Mindrcak is the reason hardcore mode is in the game. The video should have gone further into the impact it had on the game/community, instead of just mentioning it was the inspiration for Hermitcraft. Hermitcraft is nice and all, but Mindrack was just on another level. It's a disservice to Mindcrack to act is if they were merely just the first popular smp server.
I don't understand how he can cassualy drop the fact Notch (didn't even mention Dinnerbone) joined the server and played with the guys and not go further on the fact that the server maybe responsible for a significant rise in popularity of the game itself and several game mechanics
@@lisse0099 I really wish he woulda touched on that stuff too
@@lisse0099 hermitcraft still hasn't gotten as big as mindcrack at its peak. If hermitcraft never acquired Grian it would be a fraction of the size it is now
@@magica3526 that's plainly false. HC is a far more popular server than Mindcrack. The most viewed Mindcrack videos are less than half the views of Hermitcraft's most popular videos.
Also worth mentioning the PlayMindcrack minigame server and Guude's falling out with Rawb (OldManWillakers) being part of the buisness side of MindCrack that didn't end well.
I played on that server a lot, until the whole split and went on to play Lords of Minecraft. One of the reasons for the server was to have the community play with Mindcrack players, but besides a few of them like Baj, hardly any of them played on the server. Because of the whole controversy behind not supporting the server and Bdubs and GenerikB taking money to support another server that was breaking the rules was the cause for their departure.
mindcrack was popular because of the people in it. i stopped caring about it once etho left. They should have reconsidered the business aspect when so many people were uncomfortable with it.
RAWB has also faded a lot which makes me sad since he was my childhood
@spam acc yeah same here
@@jagerzaku9160 Yeah I played so much DvZ and Lords of Minecraft. His Pokémon content was legendary too. Idk, I guess it’s just lost a lot of the magic for me, which is sad. I really do miss his old content
Whenever I think of mindcrack its instantly followed by potato on a stick
Sure would be a SHAME if something happened to your potato on a stick truck!!!
**Season 4 flashbacks*
Season 4 was the best season imo. Genny's swamp mansion (RIP), Etho's horse track and quicky mart, Bdub's potato on a stick, etc. That's all I remember from it, but by far was my favorite. It definitely seemed short tho. I didn't realize that it only lasted a year. Wasn't that the season that Pause built his hole in the ground and Ethic tries to anvil him?
I remember actively watching MindCrack as GenerikB was setting up HermitCraft and being like really sceptical about it even existing back in the day. It's strange how much can change in a couple of years yet still be so close to how it used to be.
It's kind of ironic how he's now welcome on hermitcraft now lol
@@DeadJuicebox why isn't he welcomed? I mean I know they held a vote and some of the hermits didn't want him to rejoin because of his lack of Minecraft content and him only streaming but is there another reason
@@nikoclesceri2267 he founded hermitcraft because he couldn't get into Mindcrack, then when he did get in he ditched hermitcraft.
Man imagine having the most popular smp that even notch himself joined the server
Damn
To break the final block. Of the at the time, largest survival vanilla perimeter dug for a mob farm.
and dinnerbone!
Season 4 was so iconic. Bdub’s town hall. Ethos potion lab BUNNIES
every time i hear something about a town hall on a minecraft server, i think of bdubs’s town hall 😭😭
the nether hub too
@@larsmasonsmith8370 That nether hub set the standard for what building in Minecraft would become in the future. That crazy amount of quartz and glowstone they had to collect and the intricate design of the build was truly ahead of its time.
I'm not sure who made the decision for the slowly expanding world border in season 5, but it really seemed like that was the small domino that led to the fall of the entire community.
I can remember how it went myself. First they were interested by it, doing experiments they wouldn't do otherwise and getting a really dense hub for the spawn as that's all they had access to. I can even remember them going out to explore the new horizons to see if an ocean monument or stronghold came into view yet. But then the attrition came, and they slowly started posting less and less videos, even though the news channel updates for Mindcrack were just as enthusiastic. Sethbling eventually did away with the world border, but that didn't make Etho return to finish his giant tree base.
Activity dropped hard, and Etho left not long after. Then with key members gone, they were walking into season 6 with a shot leg, never to find the glory of season 4 again.
I feel like I'm one of the few viewers who really enjoyed the world border stuff... While it did get old eventually, I liked people being forced to build together, and forced the spawn city into a city instead of gathering of shops. I understand it might have been frustrating for the players who like to explore or build large projects, however.
@@BanakaiGames -- It was really cool in the beginning, but after a month is was just a big limit. It should have expanded exponentially.
the issue was the people in the group who didnt play after the first week voted for the constant resets and the world border, while the people who actually played on the server were against it, this is why Guudes torch Tuesdays were a thing because he hated the idea of the resets. Etho left due to having to give out his real name for the copyright agreement, there is also some possibility to the resets also adding to this as well. Now days the group really isn't about Minecraft, yes the server is still there and more active since Patrons can play on the server but charity has been the major focus since S5
@@BanakaiGames I think they should've done more server wide events instead to bring people together. They had two extreams, cramped and basically single player. Needed some balance
i remember when docm77 mined out the last bits of his witch hut perimeter, aswell as the rube goldberg machine he built after that.
I think it’s so funny that GenerikB started the Hermitcraft server and then got invited to Mindcrack and quit his own server only for it to blow up a few years later. Seeing hermitcraft so big is a blast of nostalgia for me
I remember this, I stopped watching when bdubs an etho left, they ere the draw for me.
Speaking of when will we get a bdubs vid, interested to see your take on arguably one of the best builders.
Bdubs is a legend and his videos have only gotten better over time. Good to see his channel flourishing again.
I stopped watching when they left too.
It’s amazing to watch his development as a builder! He wasn’t always this good. I’ve been watching for many many years.
Same. I stopped watching when Etho, Bdubs and Genny all left. They were the only ones I cared about on the server. I mean I love Beef, but not enough to keep up with eh events of the server
they weren't the only ones I watched i watched almost every single one of them but they were the biggest draws for me for sure.
I have good memories of watching Paul Soares Jr play on MindCrack. I remember he built a sandstone museum of the server, had a house in a tree, and a mule called Ferris Mueller (a reference I do not understand to this day haha).
Kinda crazy that I can remember stuff that happened such a long time ago. It’s sad that MindCrack died but hey at least we have some good SMPs that have carried the torch onwards, HermitCraft especially.
Edit: well the video makes it’s clear MindCrack hasn’t actually ‘died’ although it’s basically become irrelevant over time. My main point stands though, HermitCraft absolutely feels like a spiritual successor to MindCrack, and other SMPs like SMPLive, SMPEarth, and DreamSMP have been innovating upon the core idea that MindCrack proved could work.
His mule's name was a reference to a movie called "Ferris Bueller's Day Off", released in 1986. It's a pretty famous movie
I miss Paul so much. Even his coĺlabs with vechs
omg yes, and his hilarious conversations with the baby zombie who he kept addressing as “boy scout”
@@SabineThinkerbellum he calls the baby zombie Bub and is still very prominent when he pays Minecraft to this day.
The treehouse was so good
I used to be obsessed with mindcrack. Not sure if anyone will get this reference but maybe it will give someone a chuckle: #ForTheHorse!
The marathon is this weekend incase you didnt know
I was able to catch the last few where Coestar nearly won them both. I'll check it out thanks!
I was just thinking about that reference! I was watching the livestream and Pause's reaction was priceless!
oh my god how could I forget #ForTheHorse
I saw that live. IIRC wasn’t that Notch apple like a $500 donation? Epic moment in gaming
I still watch the trial episodes once a year or so just to remember how much fun Mindcrack was back then.
I'm still subbed to a bunch of the guys but it's just not the same.
"Why does he have chocolate on his knees?"
Fun fact Mindcrack is still doing charity to this day. I encourage you to check out the one they have planned on November 14 to 20th.
In addition to the server and UHCs, Mindcrackers used to team up to take on Vechs' "super hostile" maps. Those series were so much fun.
Man, so many memories. I don't think I'll ever forget Mindcrack Season 3 and 4, I used to religiously watch everybody's videos every day after school haha.
Facts
The biggest plus for me about Mindcrack compared to Hermitcraft now is that it was a lot more relatable. Hermitcraft nowadays is all about incredible, unachievable hours of work. A Mindcrack episode could just be building a wall of a small scale house which would take you about 10 hours to build. Hermitcraft is all about mega-builds, extreme resource gathering and time-lapses of days of work I simply can never put into the game. Every episode seems to want to one up the last one, and the creators seem to think of an episode as a failure if they haven't put in a minimum of 12 hours of work. It's a showcase of what minecraft can be, but not what's achievable for a casual player. I know that's probably what draws a large part of the audience, as they want to look up to the creators and see the best of the best. But Mindcrack gave me the feeling I could be part of them because what they showed in their video's was comparable to what I had/could make in my own worlds. So even though I enjoy Hermitcraft it will never reach the same place in my heart as Mindcrack did.
I know your comment is over a year old rn, but I totally agree! I've always wanted a Hermit to say "this season, I'm taking it slow!"
@@jemmerllast8492 xisuma has been taking it kind of slow (compared to previous seasons)
@@micycle5363 Oh that's nice to hear, I have yet to watch any of his POVs. I saw he was using a lot of custom designed stuff, and I often shy away from that in favor of more pure vanilla (as much as one could call HC that anymore lol)
This is why my fav Hermitcraft player to watch has been Etho! Compared to everyone else his builds are really unique yet not incredibly massive and he just takes it one step at a time rather than planning it all out in one guy, which makes it a lot more of a realistically achievable build for me.
This is more of a product of time than it is a product of a different server. Yes on HermitCraft they make big and impressive builds, but that is because nowadays they have to compete for attention from other Minecraft channels that are making insane builds and doing these crazy challenges.
There are so many SMPs that younger audiences want to watch that you have to give them something to be impressed and engaged with to remain inspired. If it’s just an adult talking about whatever then why would a kid want to watch that?
They also do have livestreams where they just talk while they build so if you’re interested I’d recommend trying to catch those. Bdubs does them occasionally and they’re good fun!
Mindcrack was legendary. I still have fond memories of season 4, where Bdubs and Etho really started collaborating a lot more and making some amazing builds. Not to mention their UHCs which were really quite unique back in the old days.
It got me into Minecraft in 2013/14, now it's over 6 years later and while I rarely play the game, I still watch Bdubs, Etho and Beef all the time. Some things never change.
if I may add something, Mindcrack rose as Minecraft itself rose, but it also fell as Minecraft fell. Nowadays, we're used to seeing a major update once a year to keep the game fresh, but that wasn't so much the case back then. Updates were more frequent, but they added very little in comparison. Honestly, if you asked me what 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 added, I'd struggle to give you an answer and that's saying something: thanks to modded, 1.7.10 is by far the update I have played the most! Speaking of which, 1.8 was the first update that took over a year to develop. Nowadays, you see updates reach the .2, .3 or .4 update before a new major update comes (like 1.12.2, 1.13.2, 1.14.4). Well, the 1.7 update reached 1.7.10! Again, this was while waiting for 1.8, which wasn't that big an update, at least not by modern standards.
One of the many reasons why Mindcrack fell was because it was stagnating, and the main reason why, in my opinion, was because Minecraft itself was stagnating. Recently, Minecraft has made a return to popularity, and one of the big reasons is because even though major updates are sparse, by comparison to old Minecraft, they add a ton of new content that keeps Minecraft fresh. That serves as an excellent factor of motivation to keep people going with the game.
Something else I should add is that, as you said, back then they didn't just play on the vanilla Mindcrack server, they had several series going in other games, along with extra Minecraft content. People were also playing UHC (yes, for those who don't know, I believe Mindcrack invented UHC), along with the FeedTheBeast server, among others. This meant they played on the vanilla server less and less as their attention was divided. In my opinion, they were trying to hold too many series going together at once.
By comparison, look at Hermitcraft: sure, many of the players play other games, but you still have an active core of great UA-camrs who mostly do Hermitcraft. Many, like Xisuma and Mumbo Jumbo, keep their non-Minecraft content to separate channels. Iskall, Rendog, GoodTimesWithScar and Cubfan upload pretty much exclusively Hermitcraft right now and don't seem to have second channels (however I am not aware of whether or not they stream).
To add to this, look at VintageBeef (the one I'm the most familiar with as I've been subscribed to him since 2012), one of the guys who played on both servers. Beef used to hold many series across different games and many Minecraft series too. However, you'll notice he tended to burn himself out and didn't keep those series going for as long. When you upload many let's plays at once, some will see less activity and many will die out. If you look at his playlists, you'll see what I mean. The guy has tons of dead series that barely took off. However, contrarily to what would happen usually, his Hermitcraft series is still going and he's still really active several months later. Why? His channel has changed over the past months. He hasn't uploaded anything non-Minecraft in 9 months (this is ignoring House into Home, his second channel) and seems to play less series at once. For months, he exclusively uploaded Hermitcraft! Beef has his attention less divided, focuses on fewer series and, as a result, they last longer.
Hermits are much more active on the server, don't have their attention divided as much as Mindcrackers did, and as such the server stays active and people keep playing.
X, Ren, Iskall, Cub and Scar all have Twitch channels actually
@@no-yg3bj more recently I've known about X, Iskall and Scar streaming, but I didn't know about Ren or Cub either
The fun house prank video never gets old
Fun fact, the Jsano19 fan server still exists to this day, we are on our 5th season and have been active for I think at least 7 or 8 years or so. We're still an active server and our most popular muckluck has 20K subs. A lot of us still stream. We also recently did our 34th official UHC following in the Mindcrack tradition.
Good lord, I remember watching Zisteau’s montages from Mindcrack. They were some of the best edited videos I’ve ever seen, and it’s sad that so many people didn’t even know the server existed.
Welcome backa to the Mindacracka is iconic.
I was wondering if you would ever consider doing a video on direwolf20? He’s not huge or mainstream (only 500k subs) but he helped catapult Minecraft mods in the mainstream, and the April fools dimension update even has an Easter egg based off him, so he’s had a big enough impact. I know he helped me get into mods, which is now my favorite way to play Minecraft, and I know he helped many others.
Maybe
@@TheMisterEpic direwolf20 and especially the multiplayer server he plays (played?) on really show how much goes into mods, the people behind some of the biggest mods, and how fun they can be. I haven't watched him in years but he was a huge part of my life and seeing a recap would be amazing.
@@TheMisterEpic I first saw him in the very beginning, he posted comments on popular MC vids advertising his channel. Worked on me and for him eh :)
@@TheMisterEpic DO DIREWOLF20, PLEASE!!!!!!!!
@@st43k76 Direwolf20 still plays/tests on the Forgecraft server. However, that server is very transient. Sometimes a season lasts for months while others might only last a few weeks before it gets reset again. Other times, it's offline for a while because there's nothing significant in the world of mods to really justify a server or be on the server.
I think one of the aspects that is often overlooked when talking about the fall of Mindcrack "due to one poor decision" is that at the time, going more "pro" and being business-concious was actually quite common. It was the time of Machinima and youtubers signing up to these representative companies in order to get better sponsorships or have more contact with the bigshots at youtube, the time of in-person conventions like Minecon - pretty much all of these youtubers regretted that later on, but at the time, being able to do youtube for a living was still an incredibly risky and unrealistic dream for many.
I still watch Etho to this day, he really be a huge part of my life for the 8 years or so ive watched him.
I feel like this retrospective leaves out *almost all* of the nuance of Guude and the birth of Mindcrack, as well as what he wanted from the project... It started out from a very personal place for Guude, he was going through a really hard time. It was like his diary. And as things got bigger and bigger. He eventually felt alienated from his audience. To paraphrase a little bit, he felt like the audience wasn't there to watch Jason. But rather the character that is the Admin of the big mammajamma server.
Don't quote me because this isn't exhaustive and not something Jason ever said. But this is my interpretation being a fan that showed up in the mid seasons of Mindcrack. And wasn't there when it was a man making video diaries to help him grieve the loss of his dad. Just seems like the Server was a project that became something Guude didn't particularly want responsibility for. Because it was anchored to minecraft, and almost a genre shift in content production. Poor guy got really cynical for a time there before he started live streaming. And when he did start, it seemed his disposition improved somewhat. I hope the guy is doing okay. He's had some unfair shit happen, and was kind of a role model for me as a teenager becoming an adult. Kind of like the super cool older cousin.
The Old Ones... so long ago. They are still in my memory banks.
Season 4 Mindcrack was the best. Redstone update, new biomes, a kickass spawn town, everything was perfect.
I still think growing a few hundred giant mushrooms above Guude’s house was one of the best pranks ever, in Minecraft.
Few things I think need to be mentioned:
BDoubleO100 joined at (I think) the beginning of season 3
Vechs, the creator of the Super Hostile maps which many mindcrackers played, joined mindcrack in season 4
Etho's statement on why he left mindcrack was actually on an episode of his modpack series, as he has almost never done any livestreams
Actually he did talk about leaving mindcrack in a livestream. I know because I was there in the chat. I remember freaking out about getting the notification of him streaming because he never streams. Someone asked a question about him leaving mindcrack and that was the clip of him going over the situation. I’m sure he put it in an episode as well though I don’t remember.
he used to stream very infrequently
Tbh, its an honor to have watched mindcrack from the beginning. Season 3 and 4 are legendary. I still watch them for nostalgia. Etho bdubs beef are the guys i still watch religiously on hermitcraft and others. I miss the mindcrack days
I still go back and watch "the king of the ladder" video sometimes when I'm bored. Such a great time. I wish hermitcraft today had more of those 5-15 people heists, pranks, and general shenanigans. That being said, the mycelium resistance war vs HEP does come close, but it just doesn't feel quite as simple and fun, being more grand and tactical.
god this gave me so much nostalgia, it really is a shame seeing how much it has fallen but in the end, it was probably for the best
Mindcrack is doing better now then ever just they are not focused on minecraft or youtube anymore
Still can't forget about Minecraft's massive dip in popularity in 2014 as well. That entire event definitely contributed to the server crumbling
and look at it now, the most popular game again
Considering how recent this video is, I'm not sure you really did your research in regards to the "fall" of Mindcrack, specifically the licensing of Mindcrack. The myth of Guude being money-hungry and trying to make Mindcrack a business has been thoroughly debunked, as he has said on multiple occasions that the agreement signed by all willing members of the group was specifically to keep members like Bdubbs and generikb from accepting sponsorships and illegally not disclosing them.
Yeah, they did that... I'm not sure about disclosure, but they publicly promoted some very exploitative servers. Even Vintagebeef let himself be used to promote a pay to win server which was blatantly violating Mojang's terms (years after they'd made very clear what those terms were and Notch had left Mojang over the drama it caused).
But that's hardly unusual for youtubers, sadly.
The disagreement with Robert Moran (a.k.a OldManWillakers) on the Playmindcrack server was also about monetization, and again it was Guude who wanted to set limits.
@@Mnnvint THIS. Why didn't the video mention this??? It's so important to the 'fall' yet it was ignored... Mindcrack is just different, doesn't make it better or worse than it was.
@@Mnnvint Cant for someone to make a lag machine in that pay to win server
I'm 23 now, watched Mindcrack from season 3 onwards and this video tapped into so many memories I forgot I even had. Mindcrack was a huge part of my teen years; From eagerly anticipating the arena build with Bdubs or the never-ending castle with Beef, to watching all the perspectives in UHC, constantly refreshing the page when I knew the next episodes were coming out. The prank wars, the trial case. Hell, even race for wool. I was there through most of it, and all I can do is thanks those that made that great content for us all. Admittedly, my interest in Minecraft isn't particularly high these days, but even so, I come back on occasion to see how some of my old favorite youtubers are doing. This is especially true when, like recently, a new season of Hermitcraft begins (season 8 as of writing this) and everybody is together, making new content and thus, new memories for a newer generation of people, and those of us who're still around from the predecessors.
This video is a great summary without going too much into detail. I remember in the very beginning knowing, liking and watching a fair amount of Mindcrackers. Occassionaly Hermitcraft videos would pop up in my recommendation, but since I didn't know those youtubers, the interest was small. Then, some Mindcrackers started to have cross-over jokes and mentions, such as about JoeHill and others. This made it fairly easy to "transfer" the fanbase from one server to another. It felt just like a name change at first. Only now, watching this video, one realizes how many youtubers have been lost and how many others have joined. I specially miss GenerikB, who would often have quite funny ideas, but I know that he was left out for other specific reasons.
Mindcrack was such a huge part of my childhood. a friend of mine showed me vintagebeef and the amount of time i spent watching him and guude especially was wild. i got personally invested in so many of these guys, but ultimately it makes sense why things fell apart. i have a lot of empathy for guude as it’s hard to balance making minecraft content for fun and also doing it as a full time job. they had to basically figure out on the fly how to deal with the huge growth that they experienced with no example to follow since they were basically the pioneers of multiplayer minecraft content. but ultimately, playing the same game over and over gets stale for most people, so it was probably going to decline in activity eventually regardless
there’s also a ton of behind the scenes stuff that didn’t get covered in this video and would probably take a full length video essay to dive into - the dwarves vs zombies and playmindcrack drama comes to mind as an especially messy situation that caused some divisions in the group and also showed how hard it was to turn mindcrack into an actual business
I still remember the days of the B Team and how they tried to prank and kill Etho and ended getting killed by the sneaky ninja. Also the epic moment when Etho 1v 3 against Nebris, Millbee, and MCgamer in his prototype Death Games.
Oh man, I almost forgot about Millbee and Super MC Gamer. I remember watching the UHC where he had a VR setup, and it was hilarious.
I still remember Millvee and Pyro reading a fanfic written by Anderzel called "50 shades of A". The animatics that some of the fans made of that really made it that much more memorable.
Honestly it's funny, the name that got me into all of Mindcrack was Joe hills. and realizing how small he was compared the others after all these years really is funny to me.
Let’s go this is what I’m here for. I love OG mindcrack. I’m sad I missed the early years. I have since watched ethos whole playlist the last couple of years. The court trail was legendary (sounds like u had a bath). I started end of s3 I think.
I meant end of s4. I wish I started end of s3. All I got was the end of the good and the start of the downfall.
I totally forgot about the trial 😂😂 those were the best days of mindcrack
they were the blueprint for today's SMPs and UHCs. the UHC competitions they had every few months were to tense and fun to watch. i remember vechs grew from an unserious underdog to getting a UHC winstreak of like 4 or so. these were the good days of MCYT :,)
Yeah, I felt like I had kinda "won" UHC at that point, with such a long win streak. Glad we could entertain you! :)
@@VechsDavion so cool to see you here! hope you're doing well :-) thanks for all the great memories!
I really enjoy watching mindcrack, though I don't watch as much anymore due to time, it's fun seeing them still have fun playing together on the server or on different games.
Also really cool how they allow patrons from their patreon to play on the server. And also their charity livestreams are so great. Looking forward to the one they have coming up this weekend.
I watched so much mindcrack in 2012-2014. Then I lost interest in all minecraft content. I only got back into minecraft back in 2019 with Hermitcraft.
Watching this video gives me a feeling I dont know how to describe. Kind of like nostalgia and sadness for a world I can't remember anymore.
I know the feeling exactly, since i have it too. English seems to lack a term for it but there is one in japanese "mono no aware" which roughly means, sadness for the transience of things.
It blows my mind that some of the biggest fans of the current Hermitcraft season have never and will never watch “The Trial”. Possibly the greatest Minecraft collaboration in history. Man, I miss Mindcrack.
FYI, mindcrack is still around.
Mindcrack charity marathon is this weekend on twitch, check it out.
Bruh thank you so much for making this video!
Season 3 was my favorite, vintage beef was probably my most influential UA-camrs at the time
The only thing I know about Mindcrack is the massive controversies caused by the B-team. I was very surprised to see that get NO mention at all in this video.
Those controversies, along with the PlayMindcrack controversy with Rawb (both controversies surrounding money) is what led Guude to make Mindcrack a legal entity and thus contracts.
These guys were my everything for a few years there 2013 to 2016 or so. Watched the minecraft videos, the G mod stuff, listened to the podcast. Slowly they adapted to a new UA-cam and slowly I found new interests; and I haven't watched in a few years. But they'll always hold a special place in my heart cause my final few years of high school and first year of college were filled with them.
I fondly remember the days of Mindcrack. My old friend group I had on Skype I met basically because of their videos. We were even inspired to make our own SMP at the time. I also loved watching the UHC’s, especially season 3.
Sad no one knows etho, the dude literally revolutionized redstone contraptions and paved the way for the current major red stone youtubers
Where did this “nobody knows underground UA-camr Etho” circlejerk come from? The guy is massively popular and still pulls big numbers with no sign of slowing down. Pretty much everybody knows him.
@@stevelarry3870 he has a massive following, but a majority of the people that watch him are people that have been following him for years. Also, in terms of the current minecraft community as a whole, he is “underground”. Literally ask a Dream fan, or a Technoblade fan if they know Etho, a majority of them wouldn’t have even heard of him.
@@marcolopez5036 The majority of people that watch him have likely watched him for a while, but plenty of other people know about him. He really isn’t underground in the community, like at all. I can’t even think of 5 Minecraft channels that are more popular these days.
I bet if you asked the average Dream fan about him they would probably know, and that’s the most difficult demographic because it includes people who aren’t big into Minecraft.
@@stevelarry3870 but that’s the thing, the current minecraft community is built up of these newer creators, and it shows. You could see in Etho’s analytics that he isn’t gaining that massive of a subscriber count than back when he was a big name in the community, it correlates with how a much smaller percentage of the newer community actually seeing him.
Also, if you can’t even name 5 minecraft youtubers that are currently more popular than Etho, I believe you’ve been living under a rock (no offence). Due to the way Dream managed to gain popularity through TikTok spreading clips of his videos around, almost everyone that comes in contact with him is struck with a massive boost in following. A majority of Dream’s following came from TikTok, and is still on TikTok, making it a massive platform for content for the current minecraft community. I have personally been on TikTok for approx 3 years now, and I have still yet to see any mention of Etho, even on my minecraft aligned algorithm.
@@stevelarry3870 I think it's partially because, for many years, only very devoted fans watched Etho. As you may remember, until the recent Hermitcraft blowup, his subscriber count was completely stuck, and had been for several years. He wasn't shrinking, but he sure as hell wasn't growing. Because of this, those followers that he did have started becoming an increasingly tight fanbase, with Etho as a kind of underground icon. Now that Hermitcraft has brought new life to the channel and he's seeing actual growth again, us old timers just have to get used to our underdog being mainstream again
Thanks for the very nostalgic video bro. I legit almost cried. This was my childhood.
NOTICE! The mindcrack charity marathon is November 14-20 on their twitch page. Spread the word.
Watching some of these old clips was like seeing an old friend that I forgot was my friend.
I remember watching Vintage beef and Etho on Minscrack in 2012 and 2013. I later watched Psj and Generikb. I miss watching that server Hermitcraft just isn't the same. I remember the decline in 2015 and 2016 and it made me sad to see it go.
mindcrack used to be my favorite, such an iconic group
I used to watch mindcrack videos years before I even had the chance to play Minecraft myself since I didn't have a computer at home.
Now this brings so much nostalgia from seeing youtubers names I had completely forgotten about. Now I gotta go see what they are up to.
Great video a lot of nostalgic moments. I still go back and watch the old Mindcrack videos. Season three was my favorite.
Omg I can't imagine what my childhood would be without them. I loved watching doc, etho, anderz. I remember when they cleared out a whole chunk for a witch farm and dinnerbone as well as notch helped them.
Sad but true. I was watching since the beginning of S3, but lost interest when Etho left. Then the departure of Bdubs and Genny sealed the deal...
Mindcrack... Those were the days. The trial of the B-Team, Beef and his castle/casino, Zisteau's starter bases, Etho's redstone shenanigans, not to mention the epic prank wars. Except for the newest Hermitcraft season this was my favorite era of youtube.
Man, thinking back there were so many legendary moments we watched happen with these guys that defined 2012-2015 for me. I loved mindcrack so much, Etho and Sethbling and Aureylian and all those guys. Got to meet a whole bunch of them at PAX East one year, it was the highlight of the year for me. I've grown a lot since then and I don't think about it a lot anymore but those were the days, this was a legendary time on minecraft youtube
I really enjoyed the times of OOGE, B-Team, and Team Canada. Sad that they've moved on but glad that they stayed. Thank you, Mindcrack.
Don't forget team Nancy Drew!
hey, you never mentioned that Guude was the pioneer behind UHC!
either way, great video! i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who still remembers this group today :P
I did make another video talking about UHC and how he pioneered it
I find it really cool that looking at all the clips of Season 2 and 3 I can remember them like it was my own world even tough I was only 8 at the time. I'll probably never forget about Mindcrack and although I didn't realize the amount of behind the scenes work it took at the time, I understand now that they work countless hours for their audience allowing them to have great memories of the group and Minecraft as a whole.
I'm a little surprised you didn't talk about their feed the beast stuff, but I guess you explained why in the pinned comment. Still, Etho's original modded mindcrack series is one of my favorites, and brings me huge nostalgia
11:55 they also didn't swear dure to consideration to each other. For example, PauseUnpause even back in the day said "fuck" on his own, but not during collabs with Etho, whose channel is family friendly.
Yeah I noticed this too. Like no one swore if Etho was recording with them, for example, but I never remembered Mindcrack as a whole being anti-swearing. I specifically remember how much Guude and Pause swore when I watched them back in the day, so I was a bit confused by that part. I also remember Vechs used to swear a lot, but he cut down because he was inspired by Paulsoaresjr not to, but because of any server-wide standard.
I only watched Mindcrack while Etho was still there, as he was the only Mindcrack player I watched, and still watch with Hermitcraft and his other series.
I love Etho's videos, and I only saw Mindcrack through his videos. I also enjoyed Sethbling, both of their contraptions were fun.
I still go back to watch classic Mindcrack episodes, my favourite episode was Etho's team Canada prank video 'Sky Mushrooms' that ended with the first game of king of the ladder. Classic, such a big part of my childhood.
I remember Mindcrack being basically my entire life.. And when it started to fall apart I honestly lost myself. Having never had people to hang out with all I ever wanted was to have a group like Mindcrack to call my friends. I miss them all and listening to the Mindcrack Podcast is so surreal in 2022... VintageBeef and Guude uploaded a new season of Mindcrack recently....
You just went through my childhood the memories. Yeah 2015 year I lost interest in the group. But its all good now we got hermitcraft season 7 😉 I just miss zisteau.
I still have my Mindcrack Twitch shirt, they were my partner when I started my channel back when small channels needed partners to be paid, Guude was never anything but nice to me. I do miss old Mindcrack.
I remember coming home freshman year of highschool every day to watch mindcrack non-stop. Bdubs, Etho, GennyB, Vintage Beef, Nebris, ect. I miss the prank episodes and the UHC battles the most. I don't watch mc as much anymore but it is nice to see many found a home on that new server.
I watched Mindcrack all the time. I saw the Demise when Etho and Bdubs left and when they decided to try and make a network. I’m glad many of them are still around, I still pop in on an Etho video now and then.
This channel needs more subscribers. Your narration is truly unmatched.
Just the best SMP there ever was.
great video. have a lot of fond memories watching everyone that was involved with the mindcrack server before it kinda went downhill. some of them i still watch up to this day, from time to time.
Kinda off topic, but hearing ethos old microphone brings back so many memories 9:00
Hey man, here before your channel blows up. Got this recommended on youtube. You deliver some quality content! Would love to see stuff about anarchy servers as well. Keep it up!
Finally someone made a video on this!! I’ve had this idea for the past 5 years. Haven’t even watched the video but I know it’s going to be a trip down memory lane
Nice retrospective, I used to watch Mindcrack and the members individual videos but stopped having much time to watch LPs sometime around when members like Etho left the group and so for 6+ years didn't keep up with any of the happenings. I knew it had waned in popularity though and just recently looked up some of the old members and watched some stuff. Lots of fond memories and laughs from back then, I hope they all still have good relationships but I kinda get the vibe that things are strained between some of the members.
C'est la vie. Nothing lasts forever so cherish it while you can, I guess.
This brought back so many memories. It’s crazy how I recognize nearly every Etho clip you used from when I watched them back in the day.