For the technically-minded 1%, Rear Axle Steering does not affect over- or under-steer. Nor is it used like earlier designs to make parking easier. Porsche RAS is used to create the effect of a shorter wheelbase at low speeds making the car turn more quickly in tight curves, and then as you go faster it transitions into the effect of a longer wheelbase making the car much more stable at high speeds. So the new RS is bigger but turns in tight as if it were smaller than the original RS. Amazing!
We were down on Streets filming another show while Patrick and Jay were filming with that new RS. What a sound echoing off the hills!! Great to see you driving the brown 911 Jay!!
***** Yep, I bet CNBC is getting it for free and he has not a single contractual obligation for any consideration. It's just a mild ribbing. Lighten up.
***** "Just because he gets paid doesn't mean it's not a hobby," Still taking it too seriously Steven. Your real name isn't Mabel is it? No. She's a cool lady. Cooler than Jay. WTF is your problem, really?
... My Dad had a 1967 Porsche 912 (Guldens Mustard Yellow), the 911 body with a 4 cyl flat engine, not much off the line but buzzed on the thruway which was perfect for Frank as he was an airline pilot and it was only a mile or so to the interstate ';-) Thanks for helping me relive an Ol-Daddy memory Jay!!!
I prefer the 912 over the 911 of that time, still as the 356 engine and was a lot more balanced and nibble compared to the 911 because of the smaller engine and weight.. often regarded as the "Purist Porsche".
Oddly enough, the first time I saw Patrick was in a movie called Run in 1991, where he was asked to deliver a Porsche. Maybe that's where it all began.
I am not disparaging Patrick in any way by saying this; as a long time fan of JLG, I always enjoy watching Jay's face as he drives something new, challenging and enjoyable. Jay has a very readable expression, and I would have have enjoyed seeing him drive the new Porsche with the rear wheel steering around Willow Springs. He needs not to compete with P.D. at all, just to see him experience the new RS model would be cool. As always, TY Jay and company for sharing this video with us. Is it possible to get the full JLG shows on UA-cam? I TY.
Jelsick I know Patrick must be rich but would he be so rich that he forgot he owned a quarter of a million dollar hand built super car that would also have a plaque placed on the engine with the names of the men who built it, the date of manufacture and location? Hell, I would everyone know I had something special like that!
What he said wasnt necessarily false. "Seconds" can also mean anything more than 1. And if you know race tracks and lap times, I dont think there is any track (aside from a kart track) that has 20+ turns with a driver able to lap it in 60 seconds or less. For reference, WSIR (the big track next to where this was filmed) only has 9 turns and a fast car (like the GT3RS) is anything that can lap under a 1:25-6-7. I doubt a classic 2.7 RS would get anywhere near a 1:35, likely more into the 1:45 range which is right in line with what was said.
Some think they are funny mostly with crooked eyes and when you hear instead of read what they say it would probably be funny . Remember Chris Burke? Mongoloids cant help it Alan................ it's sad in a way a real Corky wannabe.
I suppose there is a new modern way they make back wheels turn, but still I wouldn't call it "new technology of back wheel turning" . It sounds like this Porsche is first to have it. I remember Honda in the 80s but I'm sure there are earlier cars that I don't know about. I agree that the price for the old race Beetle is too high but there must be something overly rich people can do to separate them from ordinary people. Jay though it's a true enthusiast with both feet on the ground that uses his money well imo.
pelleper Oh, I sure didn't know that. A friend of mine had one but I have always been more a US car guy. I didn't mind that my old Corvette 71 LT-1 had bad handling, sound and feel was unbeatable imo.
Man, I remember looking at one of this Porsche 911 Carrera's back in 1973...I thought they were the Ugliest things to ever show up on the show room floor.....now look at what they are worth, darn.
911r my favortie modern porsche since the carrera gt, from then the 993 evo(best mechanical best modern) what the 911rs of today wishes it was. i guess the 918 being super modern since its hybrid tech trurbo
The 991.2 GT3 is certainly rumoured to offer manual. On the Salomondrin channel he said that he thinks it might hurt the inflated prices the R is currently holding onto. It seems that manufacturers these days are realising there's more demand for manuals than they thought. From 2004 to 2014 or so, it really looked like a manual gearbox was going to become a thing of the past, but in the last two years they've really made a comeback.
I definitely think that 911R prices will fall a little if the next gen GT3 is equipped with a stick, but probably will still be quite valuable. Hopefully they stick around (no pun intended) even if it is on low volume or specialty vehicles only. I honestly wouldnt know what to do with my left foot if there wasnt a clutch to depress.
I think that Porsche and other manufacturers are going by the performance numbers/increased performance in lap times that the PDK offers compared to a manual regardless of how skilled the driver is and seems to forget all will not see track duty and purists or those 'old school' owners find lots of fun with the manual not caring about the PDK and faster lap times it offersI feel BOTH should be offered
Hi Jay, Will you be featuring your sepia brown 911 in a You Tube channel show, as you mentioned in a previous restoration blog? It would be great to see more of it. Thanks for a fantastic You Tube show. The shop based online episodes are great! Best wishes from Cambridge, England.
On these newer Porsches, the rear wheels can articulate (I believe) up to 1-1.5 degrees in either direction. At low speeds, they angle opposite the front to give better response and keep the front end tucked into a corner (or if you are just parking, to help reduce the turning radius). At higher speeds, they turn with the front wheels to provide stability.
Anytime Jay wears a helmet, it makes me think that he looks like a literal baby. not necessarily a "chicken" kind of baby, but the checks stick out and it's like GOO GOOO
I do wish Jay's show was a but more stylized. The web show is awesome and nerdy - love it the way it is, the tv show looks ancient in the way its shot, (a 'hair' better than autoweek) when we're all use to top gear as the benchmark now. Jay's tv version isnt as nerdy, glazes over details, made for a non technical audience. Top gear & Fifth gear are the last best looking/ cinematography car review TV shows, but at least we have Drive, CICGC, MotorTrend, Jay, Cnet on Cars, Evo mag, and a bunch of other web shows that elevate the standard.
The vintage cars are unsafe? If they are kept up, they are not one bit less safe then they were when they came out! I have a 1968 Charger with a big block, four wheel drum brakes and have a blast with it. It is not unsafe.
If you wanna do a video of a hot lap, don't overdub the sound over some other footage, I mean this isn't 1980s, can't pull this off anymore. It just looks unnatural and stupid. It's obviously slow. By all means get those shots and splice them together while Jay and Patrick are bantering, but don't put those ridiculous corner shots when Jay says "wow that's really on the edge" when you can see the cameraman shadow on he car. Seriously? Just mount a camera low, POV style, and do it that way, get some drone footage of the exterior, you'll be fine. Not trying to be douchy, just a heads up. We've watched Chris Harris and others for years and years, we can see clearly what's going on. This BS can get a pass for a morning TV show but not on a car channel on YT. Waste of everybody's time.
but the prelude isnt fit for power application calsonics gtr(aka opinion based but my fave race car of all time) has proven nissans race lineage/heritage
god the stupid TV drama music they play over the lap is terrible, mainstream tv has no idea how to make a good car video so many youtubers do it better
Mazda also. Around 1989 was the Honda Accord and 1990 the Toyota Carina and Mazda 626. Nissan Skyline R32 GTR and Mitsubishi 3000GT had it also for the sportscars.
Jay leno your a great man we love ya keep coming with those classics im no Porsche 911 Carrara man even though Mr.Porsche the guy who was the inventor of the Volkswagen beetle was also the eventor of the Porsche even though the engine to me seems to be a glorified Volkswagen but thats just me lol im more of a mopar type of guy as far as Dempsey goes Richard Petty would Stomp him in the Roadrunner superbird anyday yea he might have a edge even i will admit that the Porsche Cararra does have him beat as far as handling the curves but the straight highways Richard would win anyday
A million bucks for a '73 Porsche? I know they made (make) great cars, but the prices for these things is way out of control. Even this amatuer says they're not safe. This is what happens when a bunch of rich guys decide they want one, and drive the prices through the roof.
I owned a '74 base model 911 back in the 80s. It was a blast to drive and I drove the bag off of it on a regular basis. It was quick and it stuck like glue in most situations, although I did experience the heavy understeer more than a few times. I think I paid around $12k for it used and sold it for about the same amount a few years later. Lots of fun but I can't imagine a '73 RS being 80 times more fun for the money. In fact, price not withstanding, I'd rather have a new 911 any day. Comfort, safety, speed, handling. No comparison.
OMGWTFLOL I was thinking the same thing. Pay $175k and have $700k left to invest. I just don't get the price jump over just the past few years. Especially when new cars are light years better.
For the technically-minded 1%, Rear Axle Steering does not affect over- or under-steer. Nor is it used like earlier designs to make parking easier. Porsche RAS is used to create the effect of a shorter wheelbase at low speeds making the car turn more quickly in tight curves, and then as you go faster it transitions into the effect of a longer wheelbase making the car much more stable at high speeds. So the new RS is bigger but turns in tight as if it were smaller than the original RS. Amazing!
We were down on Streets filming another show while Patrick and Jay were filming with that new RS. What a sound echoing off the hills!! Great to see you driving the brown 911 Jay!!
jays face in that helmet is GOLD. something out of south park
:-)
Bad news, Jay. You've got a "Jay Leno's Garage" show on CNBC. Your hobby is now your job.
***** Yep, I bet CNBC is getting it for free and he has not a single contractual obligation for any consideration.
It's just a mild ribbing. Lighten up.
***** "Just because he gets paid doesn't mean it's not a hobby,"
Still taking it too seriously Steven. Your real name isn't Mabel is it? No. She's a cool lady. Cooler than Jay. WTF is your problem, really?
Now he can race.
Such an amazing collection. God Bless you Jay for maintaining the integrity of those brands and rides. Living the dream indeed.
... My Dad had a 1967 Porsche 912 (Guldens Mustard Yellow), the 911 body with a 4 cyl flat engine, not much off the line but buzzed on the thruway which was perfect for Frank as he was an airline pilot and it was only a mile or so to the interstate ';-) Thanks for helping me relive an Ol-Daddy memory Jay!!!
I prefer the 912 over the 911 of that time, still as the 356 engine and was a lot more balanced and nibble compared to the 911 because of the smaller engine and weight.. often regarded as the "Purist Porsche".
This 911 and the 918 spyder....best ones Porsche has ever made
That would be the 911R. FACT
991.2 GT3 will make the 911R obsolete.
" I don't want to make my hobby, my job." Great advice.
You can see it in Patrick's eyes, he got really focused when he got in the new car.
Oddly enough, the first time I saw Patrick was in a movie called Run in 1991, where he was asked to deliver a Porsche. Maybe that's where it all began.
"No Mans Land" I think.
I am not disparaging Patrick in any way by saying this; as a long time fan of JLG, I always enjoy watching Jay's face as he drives something new, challenging and enjoyable. Jay has a very readable expression, and I would have have enjoyed seeing him drive the new Porsche with the rear wheel steering around Willow Springs. He needs not to compete with P.D. at all, just to see him experience the new RS model would be cool. As always, TY Jay and company for sharing this video with us. Is it possible to get the full JLG shows on UA-cam? I TY.
I love your videos keep them coming thanks Jay.
The classic Porsches are nice, but the new Porsches are so cool.
Patrick Dempsey no seat belt, living on the edge ;-)
Where's the pizza with extra anchovies so cool to see he grew up to be cool he's a great driver made it to leman good preview thanks Jay
This video gave Alejandro the full enchilada. #CupGang #VIP-PorscheCollector
That open face helmet makes you look like a Cabbage Patch doll.
What's wrong with Cabbage Patch dolls?
Nothing, as long as Cabbage Patch Dolls don't look like JL:)
Nope, Buddy Hackett
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JohnLeePedimore ya
Totally
This is the first car video I was able to fully watch with my wife :)
Seriously that guy has been in some form of motorsport, the fact that he has been paid for it is even more incredible.
i love the look in dempsey's eyes while driving...intensity.
I call bullshit on Dempsey's statement on having never owned an American car, he owned a Panoz Esperante which is built in Georgia.
f266101463 Yes, Headquartered and manufactured in Georgia
Ive never owned a auto transmission car, and dont plan on it.
+Bilb Ono ~ I haven't owned a stick shift in decades. It's not much of a man who doesn't keep one hand free for beer!
Must have slipped his mind.
Jelsick I know Patrick must be rich but would he be so rich that he forgot he owned a quarter of a million dollar hand built super car that would also have a plaque placed on the engine with the names of the men who built it, the date of manufacture and location? Hell, I would everyone know I had something special like that!
Awesome Porsche. Thanks Jay.
DERRICK WHAT ARE YOU DOING? GET TO THE OR
that car is my dream right now
Nice Porsche...almost as fine as my 2014 Boxster!!!!!😎
Dayummm these old porches have gone up in price, crazy!
I couldn’t know or care less about cars but I’m just watching anything Patrick Dempsey and it’s 2am soo🤷♀️
"shave seconds off of every turn"
So a track with 20 turns that has a lap record of 60 seconds, in a GT3 RS will take 0 seconds. Wow. Nice going there Porsche.
What he said wasnt necessarily false. "Seconds" can also mean anything more than 1. And if you know race tracks and lap times, I dont think there is any track (aside from a kart track) that has 20+ turns with a driver able to lap it in 60 seconds or less. For reference, WSIR (the big track next to where this was filmed) only has 9 turns and a fast car (like the GT3RS) is anything that can lap under a 1:25-6-7. I doubt a classic 2.7 RS would get anywhere near a 1:35, likely more into the 1:45 range which is right in line with what was said.
Alan Bowers TL;DR
Enjoy taking the fun out of my comment.
Alien OrSutin I didnt realize there was any fun to "take"
Some think they are funny mostly with crooked eyes and when you hear instead of read what they say it would probably be funny . Remember Chris Burke? Mongoloids cant help it Alan................ it's sad in a way a real Corky wannabe.
I love that this was essentially a paid advertisement for Porsche. I have no problem with that, but it's hilarious I realized it halfway through.
I wonder if 40 years from now, the latest Porsche 911 GT3 RS will be so much better than today's.
"See the understeering there?" LMFAO
FINALLY a video without DavidLeecock
Why the hate? just because the guy is more successful and own more cars than you?
no just because im tired of watching him over and over again... smh
Wot48 because he claims to be things he's not
I don't have a clue who Patrick Dempsey is, but my favorite one is the brown one Jay was driving.
OMG I really WANT the Porsche helmet of Patrick Dempsey, what to do for having it?!?!? LOVE LOVE LOVE
Sepia Brown, Jay, and it is beautiful!
Sepia brown looks like sepia crap
I need that Luftgekühlt Shirt!!!
Love them both
Can you adjust the spoiler on the new rs? For a more aggressive angle?
With all Jay's money, can't he get a custom helmet built?
He said he doesn't race, so he doesn't really need a custom helmet i guess.
@@deltaflyer1997 Even if he doesn't race, you still need to wear a helmet whenever you take your cars to the track for some fun laps.
I hope Jay reviews an RWB Porsche some day, maybe even with Nakai-san himself
The "Holy Grail". I had a Girl Friend in Germany who had one. I was in the Army. On Ski Patrol in Garmich.
I suppose there is a new modern way they make back wheels turn, but still I wouldn't call it "new technology of back wheel turning" . It sounds like this Porsche is first to have it. I remember Honda in the 80s but I'm sure there are earlier cars that I don't know about. I agree that the price for the old race Beetle is too high but there must be something overly rich people can do to separate them from ordinary people. Jay though it's a true enthusiast with both feet on the ground that uses his money well imo.
the 928 had it too. Can't remember if it came on launch (-78) or later.
pelleper Oh, I sure didn't know that. A friend of mine had one but I have always been more a US car guy. I didn't mind that my old Corvette 71 LT-1 had bad handling, sound and feel was unbeatable imo.
My 1990 Nissan 300ZX Twin Turbo had it too. Can't say I noticed it.
Benny Lloyd-Willner my dads Peugeot 306 diesel has rear wheel steer
you don't understand how supply and demand works?
"old race Beetle" ah, your confusion makes sense now.
Patrick Dempsey asked: What color is this car? Jay Leno answered: Hmm...I think baby poop brown...
LMAO!
Patrick Dempsey taught me how to do the African Anteater Ritual. So I've got that going for me.
If you don't want to drive it then collect dolls Miller! Does that 73' have the heavy bumpers?
Man, I remember looking at one of this Porsche 911 Carrera's back in 1973...I thought they were the Ugliest things to ever show up on the show room floor.....now look at what they are worth, darn.
Yeah. Not accounting for peoples taste !
@ 2:56 "Out with the old, in with the new" - Jay while getting out. Isn't it ironic?!
Jay, I think people would love to see a GTA Spano!
Rear wheel steering modern mate my 89 300ZX has it
Mitch ya I had a 91 prelude when I was 19 that had it too.
Yep they had it but it was crap
911r my favortie modern porsche since the carrera gt, from then the 993 evo(best mechanical best modern) what the 911rs of today wishes it was. i guess the 918 being super modern since its hybrid tech trurbo
Awesome...
Is that a tag heuer Monaco?
Yes.
David Stefanowicz
Just like Steve McQueen !!
Yes.
Cost more than my house
please Jay do a video on your beautiful brown Porsche 911 !!!
That new Porsche needs a manual transmission .. then it would almost be perfect
that's called the 911r my friend lol
Or (fingers crossed) the 991.2 GT3!
The 991.2 GT3 is certainly rumoured to offer manual. On the Salomondrin channel he said that he thinks it might hurt the inflated prices the R is currently holding onto. It seems that manufacturers these days are realising there's more demand for manuals than they thought. From 2004 to 2014 or so, it really looked like a manual gearbox was going to become a thing of the past, but in the last two years they've really made a comeback.
I definitely think that 911R prices will fall a little if the next gen GT3 is equipped with a stick, but probably will still be quite valuable. Hopefully they stick around (no pun intended) even if it is on low volume or specialty vehicles only. I honestly wouldnt know what to do with my left foot if there wasnt a clutch to depress.
I think that Porsche and other manufacturers are going by the performance numbers/increased performance in lap times that the PDK offers compared to a manual regardless of how skilled the driver is and seems to forget all will not see track duty and purists or those 'old school' owners find lots of fun with the manual not caring about the PDK and faster lap times it offersI feel BOTH should be offered
Did I see the Draguar burnout marks still on that track...
Gerber baby!!! :)
Nice!
Hi Jay,
Will you be featuring your sepia brown 911 in a You Tube channel show, as you mentioned in a previous restoration blog? It would be great to see more of it.
Thanks for a fantastic You Tube show. The shop based online episodes are great!
Best wishes from Cambridge, England.
Oh that guy's in transformers 3
Ethaniel Clyne Showing off that beautiful Delahaye! I don't remember what the movie is about, but I remember that Delahaye!
I love it
what exactly is "rear-wheel steering"? do the rear wheels actually steer along w/ the front?
yes! But only a little bit just to give you some extra support
On these newer Porsches, the rear wheels can articulate (I believe) up to 1-1.5 degrees in either direction. At low speeds, they angle opposite the front to give better response and keep the front end tucked into a corner (or if you are just parking, to help reduce the turning radius). At higher speeds, they turn with the front wheels to provide stability.
God....rich people have it all!!
what lap times was Patrick running on the big track in the GT3?
Good question! - lets try and beat him on Project Cars.. lol
Anytime Jay wears a helmet, it makes me think that he looks like a literal baby. not necessarily a "chicken" kind of baby, but the checks stick out and it's like GOO GOOO
I do wish Jay's show was a but more stylized. The web show is awesome and nerdy - love it the way it is, the tv show looks ancient in the way its shot, (a 'hair' better than autoweek) when we're all use to top gear as the benchmark now. Jay's tv version isnt as nerdy, glazes over details, made for a non technical audience.
Top gear & Fifth gear are the last best looking/ cinematography car review TV shows, but at least we have Drive, CICGC, MotorTrend, Jay, Cnet on Cars, Evo mag, and a bunch of other web shows that elevate the standard.
Dempsey should have got on a lawn-mower at the end, and driven off! That would have been really funny. :0)
Greys misses you !
Modern day Paul Newman? Could be. Needs to make a (good) movie or two.
Dane, Yorba Linda, CA
You look so cute with your little black helmet Jay
I'm going to have one some day
The vintage cars are unsafe? If they are kept up, they are not one bit less safe then they were when they came out! I have a 1968 Charger with a big block, four wheel drum brakes and have a blast with it. It is not unsafe.
lindas essas porsches
awesome
stop
what
If you wanna do a video of a hot lap, don't overdub the sound over some other footage, I mean this isn't 1980s, can't pull this off anymore. It just looks unnatural and stupid. It's obviously slow. By all means get those shots and splice them together while Jay and Patrick are bantering, but don't put those ridiculous corner shots when Jay says "wow that's really on the edge" when you can see the cameraman shadow on he car. Seriously? Just mount a camera low, POV style, and do it that way, get some drone footage of the exterior, you'll be fine.
Not trying to be douchy, just a heads up. We've watched Chris Harris and others for years and years, we can see clearly what's going on. This BS can get a pass for a morning TV show but not on a car channel on YT. Waste of everybody's time.
gavranarh you are absolutely right !!
were do you see the cameraman shadow at?
yeah tell that to Chris Harris, or Top Gear
Who gives a flying care it, is a show you duh douch, what I say is,some one needs to tag ''eleven''on the rev.
Loverboy 1989 for anyone that remembers
Cool.
2.7 RS or 993 GT2?
Obvious. Not the 2.7 !
Must of been doing about 40mph tops in that GT3
Sorry for my bad English (sorry for my bad English)
Nissan Skyline GTR had that 4wd steering decades ago.
satellite964 so did the prelude. But who cares?
but the prelude isnt fit for power application calsonics gtr(aka opinion based but my fave race car of all time) has proven nissans race lineage/heritage
god the stupid TV drama music they play over the lap is terrible, mainstream tv has no idea how to make a good car video so many youtubers do it better
Rear wheel steering ist a new technology?...lol...take some old Honda or Nissan car...
KarsonNow it's still very new to being done right. There's also been a few pickup trucks with it.
it's been around for 20 years
KarsonNow Maybe he meant new to Porsche.
Mazda also. Around 1989 was the Honda Accord and 1990 the Toyota Carina and Mazda 626. Nissan Skyline R32 GTR and Mitsubishi 3000GT had it also for the sportscars.
I think he meant as a new feature to the 911
COOL Patrick Dempsey and Jay Leno Hit The Track in a Porsche 911 RS - Jay Leno's Garage
Jay must now admit that his show was infuenced by Salomondrin bringing all those big and rare cars together.
Patrick Dempsy Can't Buy Me Love movie?
Jay leno your a great man we love ya keep coming with those classics im no Porsche 911 Carrara man even though Mr.Porsche the guy who was the inventor of the Volkswagen beetle was also the eventor of the Porsche even though the engine to me seems to be a glorified Volkswagen but thats just me lol im more of a mopar type of guy as far as Dempsey goes Richard Petty would Stomp him in the Roadrunner superbird anyday yea he might have a edge even i will admit that the Porsche Cararra does have him beat as far as handling the curves but the straight highways Richard would win anyday
Old mate Pat could not drive a hot nail into butter.
Beep Beep!!
My mt6 G 35 has rear steering
Jay. You look kinda worried. What is that face at 3:49 ?
seconds?
nice beetle
It is weird how the old one is more than five times more expensive than the new one wich is a rocket. I' ll buy one and sell it in 25 years.
That big car on that go cart track is a tad ridiculous.
yeah very odd they were on horse theif mile a drifting track and not big willow or streets???
i see the wheel base is lot longer and width :) cheeting
Looks like you never broke 25 mph
Clever boy that Dempsey: "Never owned a us-car". Could not agree more.
McDreamyyyyyy
A million bucks for a '73 Porsche? I know they made (make) great cars, but the prices for these things is way out of control. Even this amatuer says they're not safe. This is what happens when a bunch of rich guys decide they want one, and drive the prices through the roof.
I owned a '74 base model 911 back in the 80s. It was a blast to drive and I drove the bag off of it on a regular basis. It was quick and it stuck like glue in most situations, although I did experience the heavy understeer more than a few times. I think I paid around $12k for it used and sold it for about the same amount a few years later. Lots of fun but I can't imagine a '73 RS being 80 times more fun for the money. In fact, price not withstanding, I'd rather have a new 911 any day. Comfort, safety, speed, handling. No comparison.
OMGWTFLOL I was thinking the same thing. Pay $175k and have $700k left to invest. I just don't get the price jump over just the past few years. Especially when new cars are light years better.
Fred Garvin It's more of a car collectors item than anything. You could probably have a Porsche 918 for weekends plus a 911 (or a house) for that lol.
ags911 I feel that rich guys will latch onto another car manufacturer, and the price of these things will drop like a stone.
He is a professional racing driver, yet you call him an 'amateur' sour grapes much ? btw, check 2015 LeMans, see who was on the podium.
The Corvette Grand Sport is still faster with 2 wheel steering. Deal with it.
No one who owns a GT3RS cares. Why? Because they own a GT3RS.