Top 12 Marvel Characters Needs Their Own Standalone Disney+ Series In Phase 5 Of The MCU 1. Blue Marvel 2. Elsa Bloodstone 3. Darkhawk 4. White Tiger (Ava Ayala) 5. Night Thrasher 6. Squirrel Girl 7. The Sentry 8. Deathlok (Henry Hayes) 9. New Warriors 10. Power Pack 11. Agents Of Atlas 12. MI13 I really want to hear your thoughts on which Marvel characters deserve their own standalone series on Disney+ and what you top 12 hopefully we all see this in a upcoming video in the near future 🤞
fun fact: in comics electro, doc oct, and vulture has fought daredevil and lost, electro has fought him more and has been beaten by him more than spider-man
Been waiting for this, mcu Spider-Man is already pretty insane all things considered and the fact that he isn’t even a full adult yet proves his potential is off the charts
in addition to this, you could scale mcu peter to tobey, mcu peter fought goblin with broken ribs (he says his ribs are broken before may's death), which is most likely why tobey was able to stop the glider, and also tobey's strength feats speak for themself
Not to mention directly afterwards Goblin on the glider crashed with Peter directly underneath taking all that impact and getting dragged through the rubble
Weird when he has knowledge that a impact is coming he's barely injured.. But without that knowledge he takes the injury just as severely as a human would like when he got shot by police after May's death. Kind of like how ki works in DBZ universe where someone who can withstand a planet exploding can be killed by a measly ray gun if they arnt actively focusing their energy to protect them from it
In the comics. Captain America has always wanted Spider-Man in the Avengers for many reasons. Cap. has leadership and tactician, Thor has power, Iron-Man has brains, Black Widow and hawkeye have high skills, Quicksilver has speed. Spider-Man is the ultimate bench player. Strength, speed, brains, agility, fast healing factor and tactician. All wrapped into one. If one had to pick a group of Avengers. Spider-man would have to come in second to Cap to build a team
@@Poukko Spider-Man has once been part of the Avengers and Fantastic Four (renamed Future Foundation), but he quit the Avengers because Deadpool became part of it. I forgot his reason for leaving Future Foundation
His acrobatic fighting style literally relies on him movie in a way that makes the pain worse, even if he wasn't getting hit it would still be impressive
This is literally the first time I've heard someone mention the broken ribs. Kind of amazing that he took such a beating and kept going as long as he did. I've broken my arm before and i couldn't even grip a bottle, no one would use that to say i was incapable of gripping a bottle. So taking into account his broken ribS the fact that he was able to do as much as did is actually insane.
@@KeyIssues thanks for showing all this cool stuff i try my best to do pretty good power scaling just to show how strong a character so i think it really cool you got all this information
Don’t forget for durability that Tom’s Spider-Man got hit by a bullet train head on and then just HOURS LATER fights Mysterio and his drone army, something I still find incredible.
I'm pretty sure that a normal human just explodes into a pile of gore when hit by a normal train, let alone a bullet train so, yes, that is an impressive durability feat.
@@JustinCarbaugh Yeah but he was very clearly still bloodied by the time Happy got to him, so he hadn't healed yet and was still able to fight off hundreds of drones and best Mysterio
Okay, I gotta start by saying that I love your power scalling, you do a real fair assessment always. That being said, I gotta agree with absolutely everything you said, but I´d also add that in Far From Home, when Spidey is fighting against Mysterio´s drone army is by far his best display of his spider sense in action in any media medium outside of the comics themselves. The fact that he can fight and defeat dozens, if not, maybe hundreds of fighting drones (armed with concussive blasts, lighting, live rounds, mini missiles and flame throwers) all while fighting in 360 degrees combat (that means attacks from every single possible direction, above and below as well) is such an amazing display of fight prowes that it deserved more of a mention. Other than that, everything is right on the money! Kuddos and keep up the great work!
@@KeyIssues so he have a durablility of 200k newtons but I think you have missed a feat wear he was able to pull 2 lattice towers,cosnidering 1 is atleast 30k tons, it was a 60k ton feat
he defeats them because of bad writing and plot armor :D its logically impossible for that many AI powered drones to miss a target of that size so consistently while all firing at once and thats the problem with all this power scaling
@@sprycmg uuhhh no. He’s Spider-Man, this is what he does casually all the time in the comics. He’s fast enough to react to lightning. It’s not bad writing, it’s a phenomenal feat for this character.
peter was able to fight for days on end against six villains with broken ribs and still come out on top, this is something that gets heavily overlooked in nwh
@@controlman7490 considering he was up since the fight with doc ock on the bridge, the initial fight with electro where he stays until morning to fix the electric towers, to fighting doctor strange, the villains escaping and destroying most of the apartment complex, peter's ribs being broken, AND THEN the fight at the statue of liberty, yeah he was fighting for days on end before the broken ribs became a significant factor, and even with the other spider-men, it was still a 3v5 in total, and he had to fight lizard and goblin on his own
@@randomt800kiddo2 Nah, it was probably like 1 or 2 days. Definitely wasn't days on end. He didn't fight Lizard on his own. There were multiple points in time where Raimiverse Spiderman and Webbverse Spiderman 1v1 with Lizard. Yea, Goblin, and Ock he fought by himself, but tbh none of this shit is extremely impressive IMO. I mean any Spiderman could've done all this.
@@controlman7490 i agree that a 1v1 on its own wouldn't be too impressive compared to tobey and andrew, but you'd have to factor in pretty much everything key issues said about the broken ribs, any minor action can cause weeks' worth of pain, let alone fighting super powered villains
There's also the fact that he said that "it felt amazing" when Dr. Strange knocked him out of his physical body, showing how much he can be unknowingly limiting himself maybe..?
His fighting style is called "the way of the spider" in the comic books. And he is connected to the multiverse through the spider sense which is why he could "swim" back into his body from astral form and his physical body could dodge Strange simultaneously.
What sucks is in the comics he stopped using it and Shang even gave him shit for letting his skill dull out. He tells Peter if he kept up on his fighting style his spider sense would be able to detect traps and even pick up on people lying. The way of the spider was created so Peter could fight without relying on spider sense as at the time of that story he lost that power but Shang tells him that his intention with helping him create that styling was to have it compliment the spider sense when it came back. Source is Shang vs the marvel universe which is canon in 616.
No matter which Spider-Man we’re talking about, and despite knowing how strong he actually is w/feats, I always feel like Doc Ock whenever his strength is examined up close… a mixture of shock&awe with a little horror
Imagine if he learned the martial art known as the way of the spider, he would become 1 of the most dangerous heroes in MCU, I mean y not? We have both Peter Parker and Shang-Chi in the same universe so I really want this to happen
@@djrocksgaming6255 he’s only 18/19 maybe 20, plus another candidate for the young Avengers, Kate Bishop, is 22 in Hawkeye, so I don’t think he’s too old. Plus his experience yet youth could really help the new upcoming teen hero’s find their place.
I would actually LOVE if you made a narrative on why MCU Spider-Man’s character is amazing and way too heavily criticized in comparison to Tobey and Andrew
To be fair... All Spidermen have been heavily criticized since Tom Holland came out. No one used to complain ab Andrew and Tobey heavily since Tom. I bet everyone was actually anticipating Tom to be this Amazing Spiderman, but it was only his solo movie that caught criticism on his character. Not the civil war appearance. So in a sense everyone is kinda biased.... Bc once someone try to put an idea on top of an already established ideal. It'll always get messy. So to be fair... Literally Andrew was the only one that truly heavily criticized.
Also in strength, he broke a bullet proof window on the Washington Monument. Considering how much of an explosive force a gun needs to shoot a bullet and for it to penetrate a solid object at a great speed, it’s amazing how much force his kicks has not just to crack the window, but also shatter through it by just swinging a bit further back and accumulate momentum.
He didn't use his full power the time because if he used to much power his electromagnetic contact with the building would loose and he could have fallen and he hadn't even awaken his true powers yet
@@Antwannnn they just need to have more time to actually finish the CGI. TASM 2 had enough time to actually simulate the cloth of his suit rippling in the wind and even simulate the muscle on the CGI model of Andrew where Tom because his suit is vacuum sealed it removes a big aspect of realism but the main point is that MCU projects are so rushed that the CGI never gets fully finished let alone get the extra touches to look as amazing as TASMs effects
@@keving5004 but TASM 1 and 2 were released 2 years apart. So was the Home trilogy. 2017, 2019, 2021. Plus No Way Home was delayed a couple months and STILL had unfinished cgi. I just feel like Marvel either has the wrong people or Jon Watts vision of what Spider-Man should look like, in terms of vfx, is just different from Marc Webbs viewpoint.
Honestly one of my few favorite fight scenes in NWH is the ones between MCU Spidey and Ramai Green Goblin at Happy's condo and at the Statue of Liberty 'cause they show the feat of strength from that version of the webhead and how powerful every hit he throws is
He was hit (and run over!!!) by a passenger train in No Way Home, managed to grab onto the back of it and crawl inside for a nap. He woke up in prison and casually broke out of the cell with his bare hands and didn't even seriously damage the surrounding structure.
In far from home you mean, he was hit by a bullet train. Tho he was also hit by a train in NWH, but significantly slower one, like almost the same with the one that hit Tobey in Spider-Man 2
There’s something I would like to point out that I feel like no one else is doing. MCU Spider-Man beat the Green Goblin pretty easily in their second fight. Like, Green Goblin barely got a couple hits in. MCU Spider-Man pretty much demolished him in that second fight. That’s something that not even Tobey’s Spider-Man could do. And for those that want to say that want to say that Tobey’s Spider-Man was hurt more than Tom’s; you are 100% wrong. Tobey’s Spider-Man was flung through a brick wall and then had a pumpkin bomb explode in his face, while MCU Spider-Man had some of his ribs broken or cracked, was hit through multiple walls, fell through multiple floors of a building, had a pumpkin bomb explode in his face, was shot, and fought 3 other villains where he got hurt multiple times. And still, MCU Spider-Man pretty easily beat the Green Goblin in that second fight.
@@vrbty Not to mention, at the time, when Tobey fought Goblin he didn't have much experience fighting super power beings as well since Goblin was his first and by the time Tom fought him he had plenty of experience fighting so once he knew how Goblin fought and was driven to kill it didn't take much for him to do it, same with Tobey once he got serious in the later half of their fight where Goblin couldn't touch him. Besides if you want to compare Tom and Tobey's fights with the villains, seeing their fight with Doc ock kinda tells you Tobey still has a leg up on Tom, at least for now. If you look at Tom's fight with Doc ock he was fresh, ready to go, and had the Iron Spider on top of it and he would of lost if he didn't take over Doc's arms in that fight yet against Tobey Doc knew he couldn't win in a straight up fight so he messed with the train in order to weaken Tobey to the point he couldn't fight back. Tom is powerful in the MCU and still has plenty of room to grow, no question about it, but as it currently stands Tobey is the better Spider-man in regards of strength and skill.
@@mystikow6287 That's the point of the character, he always holds back. Funny though when we see Tobey able to stop a blood rage Tom from killing Goblin
@@theincrediblecarters3128 a lot of people thought that it was stopping the train where we can see Tobey's full strength but I don't think that's where he showed it. When a huge wall was about to fall at MJ (due to Otto's sun sinking at the ocean) Tobey managed to held it while it is constantly being pulled into the ocean. I believe that's where Tobey showed how strong he is. Tom may have the advantage when it comes to gadgets but Tobey's experience is far better. I'm not pinning the two against each other because I love all three. I believe all three are equally strong once they reached their peak level. The only difference is the point in time in which they will become the more experienced web slinger we all know about.
When he got angry. When he punched Goblin relentlessly, I knew that he was the most dangerous of the three. Tom's Spidey is both smart and strong. Tobey and Andrew are not the as bright as Tom. But their all good in their own ways.
Great video. Spiderman is much more powerful than I previously thought! I especially didn't really consider the whole bucky barnes arm thing. That's actually really impressive since Bucky's arm is so strong it pretty much tosses Captain America aside like a toy, while Spiderman can stop it with ease.
He held up a limestone bell tower at an awkward angle. Around 1500 tonnes and he tanked a direct hit from the eurostar travelling at over 100mph suffering nothing more than a bad concussion. He's pretty tough.
Spider Man's MCU is powerful its just biased Tobey fanboys get in a way. He schooled elite soldiers without prior training. Hes Spider sense is so massively overlooked. He faced Thanos and his army. In just a span of 3 years. Imagine what adult Spider Man can do?
That's what I'm saying, like Idk what Tobey and Andrew experienced after "their story ended" in a way but, Tom experienced WAR. Yes, tobey and Andrew have been Spider-Man for longer time than tom, but he experienced more "special events" like fighting cap's team for example, or being dead for 5 yrs, or fighting in an all-out war against aliens, etc.
Honestly Tobey is stronger still imo, if he was in the mcu, he would’ve done more impressive things than Tom, not to mention he overpowered an enraged Tom who was trying to kill the green goblin by stopping a blow from toms Spider-Man, but yeah toms Spider-Man is still physically powerful
I’l glad that in the MCU it focuses on Peter’s potential to work well with others. Being a team player. This has to be he extrovert Spider-Man so far to my knowledge at least that sometimes opens up with other people.
Spider man’s equilibrium is in perfect sync in any position that’s why his fighting style works so well. I remember reading that in a Marvels Whose Who, many a year ago.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO LONG! I'm seeing so many people downplay Peter 1 after NWH because they think it makes the other Spider-Men more impressive or something, and my only response is "bruh wut?" Like this kid is the youngest of the three Peters and he's able to keep up or outright overshadow the other two WHILE INJURED. Give my man some love, MCU Spider-Man is finally awesome.
@@diamantemrobinson that's true he also did get handily spanked by doctor octopus and would have died(at least been impaled) had it not been for his intuitive iron spider suit
@@dobi287 yeah it's crazy how people will use his feats from other movies and against other villians to put him on a pedestool when the other Spidermen haven't faced those guys. Tom's best attributes to other two has always been his tech created by Tony Stark which gives him great durability. Another thing I don't like is the fact they try to use his age compared to other two to also hype him further. You can however accurately scale them from this movie alone off a few details. All of the villians are taken from the moment before their death. This means this is Spiderman/TASM 1 and 2 villians. Tobey and Peter had just acquired their powers when they faught Green Goblin and The Lizard they are complete newbies. I'm not sure exactly what grade they're in both are in high school. Tom I think gets his powers as a junior and has been active for quite a while at this point he's about to graduate high school. This means he's just as 9lf if not a year older than Andrew and Toby when they get bit. He's vastly more experienced as well however he does worse against Goblin or Lizard than the other Peter's. Tobey was badly beaten near the end of the movie because of him helping others yet without killing intent was able to effortlessly defeat Goblin so bad he begged and pleaded. Tom had to be completely bloodlustrd to fight Goblin and even then he didn't actually hurt him. Goblin enjoyed himself and laughed away all his attacks and suffered no bruises. Tobey is clearly stronger than current Tom in his first movie going off those performances. Tom couldn't even evade or free himself from the Lizard when he grabbed him I understand he was damaged from Goblin but Andrew had similar levels of damage and could always free himself or escape the Lizard despite his conditions.
@@diamantemrobinson your argument became stupid after u said the goblin "begged". Please, at least watch the movie you base your arguments on before people like be beat your ass
It's curious how the first punch Goby gave Tom was because he attacked Tom while he was dodging Electro's lighting and the fatal WWE move was because a Team up between lizard and Goby
@@danielmillward9947 Well yeah Tobey was weakened during the fight bc he had to lift a train car and save mary jane and then goblin threw him into the building and beat him up then goblin mentioned mary Jane tobey went back to full strength and waled on him.
@@KeyIssues actually it was because electro's lighting was returning and speed of returning lighting is 10000km/s that's roughly 30000 machs reflexes or 3000machs speed
Tom Holland’s Spidey already has as much experience if not more experience than the other Spider-Men. He took on some of the Avengers, Thanos, Vulture, Mysterio, and he’s already fought most of the Sinister Six. His Spider sense is on another level, not to mention his IQ. And keep in mind that he is still just a kid, so imagine how OP he’ll be as an adult.
spiderman literally got chokeslammed and face punted by thanos and absolutely tanked. tanked power stone moon attack. mcu spiderman is obviously the strongest
The main power spider-man has is brain, like "nobody can stop the Juggernaut" comic shows. And MCU Peter beats most spider-man that way. That alone makes him a considerably bigger threat than the other two spider-men
A lot of people seem to miss a glider scene detail, which is Tom arms overpowering Tobey arms down; I think is because people is more focused on his face rather than the arms; or are heavely biased Raimi fans. Also; after Tom forces Tobey do bend down we can see him stop trying as he gives a tiny nod at Tobey as "I understood what you are saying" and then we get a shoot at Tobey face but on a sad expresion, like pity , as if he was saying "I know it hurts and it isn't fear, but you have to be better than us" so then Tom puts down the gilder definitley
Another good feat for mcu spider-man is being dropped by vulture over 3,000 ft high, high enough that he would’ve reached terminal velocity before hitting that water, and the parachute didn’t even help break his fall so he legit hit the water like concrete and still got up just fine afterwards
We all know that Spider-Man was Marvel's most long-running superhero and most famous and popular Marvel superhero that ever exist in the Marvel history. He's is one of my all time favorite and my first superhero since I was 1 year old when I heard about him.
I know it'd probably be hard to do since they don't interact with anyone else in the wider MCU, but I'd love to see a power scaling for the Helstrom siblings.
Awsome vid! Glad to see people putting respect on MCU Spider-Man’s name.Can u do a video on power scaling steppen wolf from Snyder cut, Deadpool from the movies, and a vid power scaling juggernaut and colusaus from the Deadpool movies
Jesus, I wish I wrote my resume the way you talk up Spider-Man. No shade, either. I love your perspective and attention to detail in representing Tom’s version of Spidey.
Been defending this spiderman for years now people need to stop underestimating this spiderman Tobey and Andrew are iconic but MCU spiderman will have more feats than those two unless we get more movies that's the nature of the beast glad someone finally put a stop to the downplay it was long overdue
he also survived getting hit by a bullet train while off guard after being attacked by mysterio and stayed conscious long enough for him to get inside the train before passing out
Tobey fans breaking their PlayStation controller right now watching this video. They hate logic and anything that accurately discusses MCU Peter Parker. Edit: I’m a Spider-Man fanboy. Idgaf if it’s Reilly, Miles, Gwen, or MJ wearing the suit. So dear Tobey stans, don’t throw that MCU fanboy shit at me.
I can tell you broken ribs are no joke. You have to not sneeze, cough or laugh hard for months. I remember thinking I was almost healed up then having to leave a bar from laughing my ass off after hitting one of my friends so hard that I lifted him off the ground (we were acting like idiots) and to make it worse, I had a job that was a mix of moving furniture and construction, that I couldn't afford to give up. For like 2 or 3 months I had to sleep by crossing my arms, putting hands at my shoulders and lying on them. Im not a religious person but one night I was agony as I couldn't afford painkillers, I felt like I had an out of body experience, I felt like I was every person and everything on the planet, I felt like I was the sun in the sky, it was the most peaceful experience I ever had in my life, Ive heard other people describe the exact same thing not just from physical pain, in recent years Ive gone into hospital for spine nerve pain and temporarily been put on opiates but they didnt even come close to the tranquility I felt.
I know you tend to focus on Marvel stuff, but is there any chance you’d be down to Powerscale the Superman and Lois cast at some point? I think Jordan, Steel, and obviously Superman would give you plenty of material for videos.
How on Earth did you leave out the scene where he got hit by a MF TRAIN?!? Also, characters such as Steve and Bucky are _enhanced_ [humans], while Spider-Man is _superhuman._
I've seen a lot of people saying that Tobey Maguire Peter Parker is stronger pointing out the scene with the glider but 1 Tom Holland Peter wanted to kill the goblin quickly with the glider so didn't care much about the stance he took and wasn't putting as much power as possible into his attack 2 Tobey Maguire Peter knew the horrible implications of killing the goblin so he was focussing his full strength on stopping Tom's Peter from going through with it and also took a stance that would lead to more strength (this also shows his experience), 3 Tom's Peter's injuries would also have made it harder to put as much power into the attack
Maguire doesn't even stop the glider, he only slows it down. You can how his arms start going down since he can't match with Tom strength. You're welcome
One thing about the lighting dodges is they don't just react to the lightning itself but also electros movements when he creates the lightning. This gives them more more time to react, as they can predict what he is doing
This video deserves more views and likes than it has right now, and needs to be seen by ALOT more spidey fans bc they have all the wrong assumptions going on in their heads about the 3 spidermen😅
The Super-Elasticity (Evil Reed's or Plastic-Man's) & The Spider-Man Powerset & Archangel's powerset after "The Horseman Death" enhancements; are my top 3 fav powersets; Non-Cosmic (cuz 2 O.P.)
18:52 that physics problem he solves (and I'm sure you got this a few times) is in fact just what he does when web swinging, don't get me wrong peter is great at math because he quite literally uses it to swing consciously or unconsciously
There's only one complaint from me, I feel like you got his reaction speed wrong, you're basing it as if the lightening leaving electros hand is the Start, but tom had prior knowledge that he was doing that by electros movements himself, it felt like tom's reaction was more proactive and calculated than reactive, I just can't see him dodging lightning without the knowledge beforehand that it was coming
@@danielmillward9947 your comment is a joke. (you want to be writing comments in other post I am just going to track you down. (i am a loser like that, sorry)
I think Spider-Man catching Buckys arm was such a genius way to show off how strong he is while still being very subtle. An even more minor detail, which I like to believe is true even if it turns out to be unintentional, is how Peter prepares to catch Bucks punch AT THE SAME time as Bucky, subtly showing off his spider sense
@@henxiety Honestly yeah, and the fact that 616 Spider-man has way better strength feats, at the same time though it's hard to consider 616 characters as a single version of a character due to there being so many writers
I'm in the hospital right now because I have a fever and broke my rib coughing. I feel asleep then woke up right at the part where you were explaining my injury today. What're the odds
@@CRISIS_COMICS Yeah 👍. And I wonder where a composite version of MCU Spidey goes in terms of power since he doesn't have games compared to the other two.
I'm pretty sure that various hero organizations throughout the marvel universe know of and often give Peter a call. He is undeniably a heavy hitter on any marvel roster! So underrated.
@@kaine7672 EXACTLY "Oh he holds back" no he fucken doesn't. He literally threw that same fat middle-aged man off a skyscraper hit him with a hard sack of coins that is easily a couple hundred pounds threw a couple hundred pounds hardwood desk at him with enough force to knock him the a building and crush a car clotheslines Harry's throat at high velocity and on and on. He just doesn't have good striking but he he definitely doesn't pull his punches. And constantly using the noveliztion and supplemental resources that CONTRADICT what's seen onscreen all the time is so annoying. 🤓 the novelization says his web balls would knock the goblin(who's a SUPER super soldier)s head clean off. Meanwhile we SEE the web balls hit regular old bank robbers without blowing them apart. Its apparent these bums don't know what hyperbole is. And resident raimi "expert" especially just d*ck rides has no common sense whatsoever.
@@kaine7672 Which 40-year-old man are you talking about?. And yeah him stopping a speeding train going 60-70 mph is more impressive than anything any other live-action Spiderman has done.
@@kaine7672 He wasn't trying to knock him out and MCU Spiderman never knocked Doc Ock out either. It's a well-known fact most variants of Spiderman holg back against their villains.
It’s literally biases for other Spider-Men from the previous movies. If you’re not “someone’s favourite version of Spider-Man”, then you’re Spider-Man is shit, regardless if your Spider-Man is strong. That’s why I don’t tend to speak to Spider-Man fans online and share my love for all three Spider-Men because it would just devolve into a pissing context from toxic fanboys on all sides.
@@silverwaveproductions4672 I mean, yeah. I actively dislike Tobey's Spider-Man, but that shouldn't mean I can just downplay his strength feats when doing powerscaling. Apparently people don't get the memo that strength isn't the same as how much you like a character.
Because of the goblin it seems to be that all spider man are all around the same strength. Well Tobey’s version is a bit older so maybe a bit weaker but he seems to be more experienced.
from the 2017 Spider man cartoon, spiders can hold 173 times their weight and peter has the proportional strength of a spider so if he weighted 70kg he would be able to hold 12,110kg or 12 Tons but that’s not MCU, however it is still pretty impressive
He’s objectively the strongest most experienced Spider-Man we’ve seen in live action. I’d bet he would win in a 1v1 fight with Tobey or Andrew. Marvel knew what they were doing gradually increasing his abilities and using his skills accordingly to the universe. By the end of No way Home he’s very well rounded and now we’re going to see him struggle internally with the depressive state his life is in by that movie. It’s going to be intresting to see how the next trilogy tries to carry a balance between being a bigger better movie then his previous appearances while also trying to be grounded and tell a Peter Parker story. Wilson Fisk would def be my pick and set up his in universe sinister 6 just so we get to see his strength feats again but improved given his maturity and experience gains. He’ll go down in history as one of the best although Andrew is still my favorite I give Tom all the props
Wilson Fisk would be too easy as a threat for Spidey (on his own ofc, different story when his whole crime shenanigans is involved ), I think if you really want more strength feats for MCU Spidey (which I want too), rhino as a side villain with mr.negative as main would be good, it also sets more S6 members
@@marcobrusas2001 I think I also want Fisk just so we can see daredevil and spidey have a cross over film. Fisk on his own isn’t much of a threat but his allies and resources do. I still want Tom to face his own venom and green goblin though
Spiderman being lightning-dodging level is insane. I always thought Spiderman stories worked best when the guy is like super-soldier+++ levels of strength and durability with like supersonic speed feats. But I mean this is the MCU, so a Spiderman like that would be underwhelming.
Not to mention that from about halfway through No Way Home, on top of everything he is going through, he's also going through serious emotional damage.
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Can you do Ben 10 next. I feel like he would be a similar character to Spiderman, seeing him grow and mature as the series goes on.
Top 12 Marvel Characters Needs Their Own Standalone Disney+ Series In Phase 5 Of The MCU
1. Blue Marvel
2. Elsa Bloodstone
3. Darkhawk
4. White Tiger (Ava Ayala)
5. Night Thrasher
6. Squirrel Girl
7. The Sentry
8. Deathlok (Henry Hayes)
9. New Warriors
10. Power Pack
11. Agents Of Atlas
12. MI13
I really want to hear your thoughts on which Marvel characters deserve their own standalone series on Disney+ and what you top 12 hopefully we all see this in a upcoming video in the near future 🤞
You clearly have to keep track of a crazy amount of info while making these videos. Respect 👊
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fun fact: in comics electro, doc oct, and vulture has fought daredevil and lost, electro has fought him more and has been beaten by him more than spider-man
Been waiting for this, mcu Spider-Man is already pretty insane all things considered and the fact that he isn’t even a full adult yet proves his potential is off the charts
in addition to this, you could scale mcu peter to tobey, mcu peter fought goblin with broken ribs (he says his ribs are broken before may's death), which is most likely why tobey was able to stop the glider, and also tobey's strength feats speak for themself
@@randomt800kiddo2 Tobey destroyed Goblin in their first fight, Tom can't say the same.
@@randomt800kiddo2 I think it was adrenaline that help him with that
@@cory6640 tom was literally beating goblin the entire time tho lol
@@markmagician2471 adrenaline doesn't carry over for days on end lol
He also took a granade, and exploted it on his hand in order to destroy the glider; and afterwards his hand was barely injured
that’s true
Not to mention directly afterwards
Goblin on the glider crashed with Peter directly underneath taking all that impact and getting dragged through the rubble
@@KeyIssues good video and scaling of mcu spiderman
Weird when he has knowledge that a impact is coming he's barely injured..
But without that knowledge he takes the injury just as severely as a human would like when he got shot by police after May's death.
Kind of like how ki works in DBZ universe where someone who can withstand a planet exploding can be killed by a measly ray gun if they arnt actively focusing their energy to protect them from it
@@francisbalfour1243 yk spidet has never had good piercing durability, right? ofc getting shot would hurt him lmfao
Thank you for putting some respect on MCU Spider-Man’s capabilities. He really does get dissed a lot even though his feats are still very impressive.
Someone had to
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@@ric4455 agreeable
No one questioned his capabilities. They questioned how he was written (and they were right until NWH came out)
In the comics. Captain America has always wanted Spider-Man in the Avengers for many reasons. Cap. has leadership and tactician, Thor has power, Iron-Man has brains, Black Widow and hawkeye have high skills, Quicksilver has speed. Spider-Man is the ultimate bench player. Strength, speed, brains, agility, fast healing factor and tactician. All wrapped into one. If one had to pick a group of Avengers. Spider-man would have to come in second to Cap to build a team
sucks that comics spiderman is more of a solo superhero than a team superhero
@@Poukko I always liked that about him. a street-level hero is always nice to see OP or not.
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Spider-Man has once been part of the Avengers and Fantastic Four (renamed Future Foundation), but he quit the Avengers because Deadpool became part of it. I forgot his reason for leaving Future Foundation
@@baligong3592 he was only part of the future foundation because johnny had seemingly died. When johnny came back he left
@@baligong3592 he was also part of the new avengers
His acrobatic fighting style literally relies on him movie in a way that makes the pain worse, even if he wasn't getting hit it would still be impressive
Very true! Wanted to highlight this because people always seem to ignore it for some reason.
@@KeyIssues hey man! Love your videos! a quick question though:
Where would you put Tobey Spider-man in powerscaling?
A reply would be appreciated.
This is literally the first time I've heard someone mention the broken ribs. Kind of amazing that he took such a beating and kept going as long as he did. I've broken my arm before and i couldn't even grip a bottle, no one would use that to say i was incapable of gripping a bottle.
So taking into account his broken ribS the fact that he was able to do as much as did is actually insane.
That’s what I’m here for 😉
@@KeyIssues thanks for showing all this cool stuff i try my best to do pretty good power scaling just to show how strong a character so i think it really cool you got all this information
Don’t forget for durability that Tom’s Spider-Man got hit by a bullet train head on and then just HOURS LATER fights Mysterio and his drone army, something I still find incredible.
I'm pretty sure that a normal human just explodes into a pile of gore when hit by a normal train, let alone a bullet train so, yes, that is an impressive durability feat.
Not to mention how ridiculously fast that train was going
@@DavidRYates-tk2tqnot me I can tank it
It did knock him out tho
@@JustinCarbaugh Yeah but he was very clearly still bloodied by the time Happy got to him, so he hadn't healed yet and was still able to fight off hundreds of drones and best Mysterio
I feel like we've only just begun seeing what this Peter is capable of...
ur right i cant wait to see what he's gonna do in his new trilogy
We just had a Shang chi movie. It would be really cool if we had Peter learn the way of the spider eventually
@@azazel56I really wonder if we going to get a training montage of this
Okay, I gotta start by saying that I love your power scalling, you do a real fair assessment always. That being said, I gotta agree with absolutely everything you said, but I´d also add that in Far From Home, when Spidey is fighting against Mysterio´s drone army is by far his best display of his spider sense in action in any media medium outside of the comics themselves. The fact that he can fight and defeat dozens, if not, maybe hundreds of fighting drones (armed with concussive blasts, lighting, live rounds, mini missiles and flame throwers) all while fighting in 360 degrees combat (that means attacks from every single possible direction, above and below as well) is such an amazing display of fight prowes that it deserved more of a mention. Other than that, everything is right on the money! Kuddos and keep up the great work!
Thank you for the kind words !
@@KeyIssues so he have a durablility of 200k newtons but I think you have missed a feat wear he was able to pull 2 lattice towers,cosnidering 1 is atleast 30k tons, it was a 60k ton feat
he defeats them because of bad writing and plot armor :D its logically impossible for that many AI powered drones to miss a target of that size so consistently while all firing at once and thats the problem with all this power scaling
@@sprycmg uuhhh no. He’s Spider-Man, this is what he does casually all the time in the comics. He’s fast enough to react to lightning. It’s not bad writing, it’s a phenomenal feat for this character.
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read comics then talk cuz you just sound dumb af rn
peter was able to fight for days on end against six villains with broken ribs and still come out on top, this is something that gets heavily overlooked in nwh
I mean, five, but fair
He didn't fight for days on end. He fought for 1 day with broken ribs and he had help from his variants.
@@controlman7490 considering he was up since the fight with doc ock on the bridge, the initial fight with electro where he stays until morning to fix the electric towers, to fighting doctor strange, the villains escaping and destroying most of the apartment complex, peter's ribs being broken, AND THEN the fight at the statue of liberty, yeah he was fighting for days on end before the broken ribs became a significant factor, and even with the other spider-men, it was still a 3v5 in total, and he had to fight lizard and goblin on his own
@@randomt800kiddo2 Nah, it was probably like 1 or 2 days. Definitely wasn't days on end. He didn't fight Lizard on his own. There were multiple points in time where Raimiverse Spiderman and Webbverse Spiderman 1v1 with Lizard. Yea, Goblin, and Ock he fought by himself, but tbh none of this shit is extremely impressive IMO. I mean any Spiderman could've done all this.
@@controlman7490 i agree that a 1v1 on its own wouldn't be too impressive compared to tobey and andrew, but you'd have to factor in pretty much everything key issues said about the broken ribs, any minor action can cause weeks' worth of pain, let alone fighting super powered villains
There's also the fact that he said that "it felt amazing" when Dr. Strange knocked him out of his physical body, showing how much he can be unknowingly limiting himself maybe..?
His fighting style is called "the way of the spider" in the comic books. And he is connected to the multiverse through the spider sense which is why he could "swim" back into his body from astral form and his physical body could dodge Strange simultaneously.
He did not develop that style himself though. He had help from Shang Chi.
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 really? That's cool a f. I didn't know that. Thank you.
@@victorpena5217 Yeah in the comics Shang chi taught him that style hopefully we see it in live action
What sucks is in the comics he stopped using it and Shang even gave him shit for letting his skill dull out. He tells Peter if he kept up on his fighting style his spider sense would be able to detect traps and even pick up on people lying. The way of the spider was created so Peter could fight without relying on spider sense as at the time of that story he lost that power but Shang tells him that his intention with helping him create that styling was to have it compliment the spider sense when it came back. Source is Shang vs the marvel universe which is canon in 616.
@@Edmitsu eppppiiicc
No matter which Spider-Man we’re talking about, and despite knowing how strong he actually is w/feats, I always feel like Doc Ock whenever his strength is examined up close… a mixture of shock&awe with a little horror
I started two sentences in a row with "He's so intelligent" man...
and giant man
Imagine if he learned the martial art known as the way of the spider, he would become 1 of the most dangerous heroes in MCU, I mean y not? We have both Peter Parker and Shang-Chi in the same universe so I really want this to happen
It's definitely gonna happen 🤞🤞🤞
PLEASE
Then teleport him to Sakaar to become the new Champion.
I was just saying if the MCU decides to do Young Avengers, Peter would be a good team leader with the most experience.
He's too old and experienced for the Young Avengers. He belongs on the main team.
@@djrocksgaming6255 he’s only 18/19 maybe 20, plus another candidate for the young Avengers, Kate Bishop, is 22 in Hawkeye, so I don’t think he’s too old. Plus his experience yet youth could really help the new upcoming teen hero’s find their place.
@@djrocksgaming6255 Spider-Squad better
@@AllThoughtsActual he’s actually 17 at the end of NWH if I’m not mistaken
@@Snugseeker yea and I’m guessing he’ll be like 18/19 in the next film and he’ll be starting college
Really hope this spider man gets the respect he deserves one day
He already did. It's just those biased fans who have their brains hardwired into thinking Tobey & Andrew r way better than him.
@@wayneshobbygallery thats because toby and andrew are stronger than him
He will, eventually. You see how much love Andrew got in NWH when he was relatively hated during TASM2
@Gio ⚜ maybe tobey, but definitely not andrew.
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I would actually LOVE if you made a narrative on why MCU Spider-Man’s character is amazing and way too heavily criticized in comparison to Tobey and Andrew
To be fair... All Spidermen have been heavily criticized since Tom Holland came out. No one used to complain ab Andrew and Tobey heavily since Tom. I bet everyone was actually anticipating Tom to be this Amazing Spiderman, but it was only his solo movie that caught criticism on his character. Not the civil war appearance.
So in a sense everyone is kinda biased.... Bc once someone try to put an idea on top of an already established ideal. It'll always get messy. So to be fair... Literally Andrew was the only one that truly heavily criticized.
Also in strength, he broke a bullet proof window on the Washington Monument. Considering how much of an explosive force a gun needs to shoot a bullet and for it to penetrate a solid object at a great speed, it’s amazing how much force his kicks has not just to crack the window, but also shatter through it by just swinging a bit further back and accumulate momentum.
He didn't use his full power the time because if he used to much power his electromagnetic contact with the building would loose and he could have fallen and he hadn't even awaken his true powers yet
Am I the only one who notices how beautiful the cgi in The amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2 are
still looks great
They need to hire those guys for this next trilogy
@@Antwannnn they just need to have more time to actually finish the CGI. TASM 2 had enough time to actually simulate the cloth of his suit rippling in the wind and even simulate the muscle on the CGI model of Andrew where Tom because his suit is vacuum sealed it removes a big aspect of realism but the main point is that MCU projects are so rushed that the CGI never gets fully finished let alone get the extra touches to look as amazing as TASMs effects
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@@keving5004 but TASM 1 and 2 were released 2 years apart. So was the Home trilogy. 2017, 2019, 2021. Plus No Way Home was delayed a couple months and STILL had unfinished cgi. I just feel like Marvel either has the wrong people or Jon Watts vision of what Spider-Man should look like, in terms of vfx, is just different from Marc Webbs viewpoint.
Honestly one of my few favorite fight scenes in NWH is the ones between MCU Spidey and Ramai Green Goblin at Happy's condo and at the Statue of Liberty 'cause they show the feat of strength from that version of the webhead and how powerful every hit he throws is
MCU Spider-Man is so much more powerful than he gets credit for
12:18 I'm glad somebody acknowledged Spider-Man going "Owowowowow" when The Amazing Spider-Man helped him up
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He was hit (and run over!!!) by a passenger train in No Way Home, managed to grab onto the back of it and crawl inside for a nap. He woke up in prison and casually broke out of the cell with his bare hands and didn't even seriously damage the surrounding structure.
In far from home you mean, he was hit by a bullet train. Tho he was also hit by a train in NWH, but significantly slower one, like almost the same with the one that hit Tobey in Spider-Man 2
@@marcobrusas2001 yeah, FFH! Typing too fast thanks for the correction.
that’s far from home
And from what I read if you where run over by a train you would be bouncing around bellow said train, not only halt to a stop
@@Snugseeker exactly. Hence him only being able to latch onto the back of the train to climb in. It had run him over completely.
Just imagine someone effortlessly stopping your strongest weapon then immediately telling you it is awesome.
MCU Spider-Man has the my favorite Spider-Sense. The FFH Peter Tingle scene had me jumping out my seat in the theater.
There’s something I would like to point out that I feel like no one else is doing. MCU Spider-Man beat the Green Goblin pretty easily in their second fight. Like, Green Goblin barely got a couple hits in. MCU Spider-Man pretty much demolished him in that second fight. That’s something that not even Tobey’s Spider-Man could do.
And for those that want to say that want to say that Tobey’s Spider-Man was hurt more than Tom’s; you are 100% wrong. Tobey’s Spider-Man was flung through a brick wall and then had a pumpkin bomb explode in his face, while MCU Spider-Man had some of his ribs broken or cracked, was hit through multiple walls, fell through multiple floors of a building, had a pumpkin bomb explode in his face, was shot, and fought 3 other villains where he got hurt multiple times. And still, MCU Spider-Man pretty easily beat the Green Goblin in that second fight.
I agree with this but Tom was not holding back so that’s probably why he beat him so easily
@@vrbty Not to mention, at the time, when Tobey fought Goblin he didn't have much experience fighting super power beings as well since Goblin was his first and by the time Tom fought him he had plenty of experience fighting so once he knew how Goblin fought and was driven to kill it didn't take much for him to do it, same with Tobey once he got serious in the later half of their fight where Goblin couldn't touch him. Besides if you want to compare Tom and Tobey's fights with the villains, seeing their fight with Doc ock kinda tells you Tobey still has a leg up on Tom, at least for now. If you look at Tom's fight with Doc ock he was fresh, ready to go, and had the Iron Spider on top of it and he would of lost if he didn't take over Doc's arms in that fight yet against Tobey Doc knew he couldn't win in a straight up fight so he messed with the train in order to weaken Tobey to the point he couldn't fight back. Tom is powerful in the MCU and still has plenty of room to grow, no question about it, but as it currently stands Tobey is the better Spider-man in regards of strength and skill.
Both of them held back, except for mcus Peters second fight, you don’t really know much about the character lol
@@mystikow6287 That's the point of the character, he always holds back. Funny though when we see Tobey able to stop a blood rage Tom from killing Goblin
@@theincrediblecarters3128 a lot of people thought that it was stopping the train where we can see Tobey's full strength but I don't think that's where he showed it. When a huge wall was about to fall at MJ (due to Otto's sun sinking at the ocean) Tobey managed to held it while it is constantly being pulled into the ocean. I believe that's where Tobey showed how strong he is. Tom may have the advantage when it comes to gadgets but Tobey's experience is far better. I'm not pinning the two against each other because I love all three. I believe all three are equally strong once they reached their peak level. The only difference is the point in time in which they will become the more experienced web slinger we all know about.
When he got angry. When he punched Goblin relentlessly, I knew that he was the most dangerous of the three. Tom's Spidey is both smart and strong. Tobey and Andrew are not the as bright as Tom. But their all good in their own ways.
Great video. Spiderman is much more powerful than I previously thought! I especially didn't really consider the whole bucky barnes arm thing. That's actually really impressive since Bucky's arm is so strong it pretty much tosses Captain America aside like a toy, while Spiderman can stop it with ease.
He held up a limestone bell tower at an awkward angle. Around 1500 tonnes and he tanked a direct hit from the eurostar travelling at over 100mph suffering nothing more than a bad concussion. He's pretty tough.
Spider Man's MCU is powerful its just biased Tobey fanboys get in a way.
He schooled elite soldiers without prior training. Hes Spider sense is so massively overlooked.
He faced Thanos and his army.
In just a span of 3 years.
Imagine what adult Spider Man can do?
And I for one can’t wait to see it.
Ejem, CRISIS, Ejem
That's what I'm saying, like Idk what Tobey and Andrew experienced after "their story ended" in a way but, Tom experienced WAR. Yes, tobey and Andrew have been Spider-Man for longer time than tom, but he experienced more "special events" like fighting cap's team for example, or being dead for 5 yrs, or fighting in an all-out war against aliens, etc.
@@marcobrusas2001 true 💯
Honestly Tobey is stronger still imo, if he was in the mcu, he would’ve done more impressive things than Tom, not to mention he overpowered an enraged Tom who was trying to kill the green goblin by stopping a blow from toms Spider-Man, but yeah toms Spider-Man is still physically powerful
I’l glad that in the MCU it focuses on Peter’s potential to work well with others. Being a team player. This has to be he extrovert Spider-Man so far to my knowledge at least that sometimes opens up with other people.
Thank you for doing power scaling videos. They’re my favorite videos on UA-cam.
Glad you like them!
Spider man’s equilibrium is in perfect sync in any position that’s why his fighting style works so well. I remember reading that in a Marvels Whose Who, many a year ago.
I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR SO LONG! I'm seeing so many people downplay Peter 1 after NWH because they think it makes the other Spider-Men more impressive or something, and my only response is "bruh wut?" Like this kid is the youngest of the three Peters and he's able to keep up or outright overshadow the other two WHILE INJURED. Give my man some love, MCU Spider-Man is finally awesome.
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It's because he got beat badly by green goblin although Toby Peter was brand new unlike Tom Peter
@@diamantemrobinson that's true he also did get handily spanked by doctor octopus and would have died(at least been impaled) had it not been for his intuitive iron spider suit
@@dobi287 yeah it's crazy how people will use his feats from other movies and against other villians to put him on a pedestool when the other Spidermen haven't faced those guys. Tom's best attributes to other two has always been his tech created by Tony Stark which gives him great durability. Another thing I don't like is the fact they try to use his age compared to other two to also hype him further.
You can however accurately scale them from this movie alone off a few details. All of the villians are taken from the moment before their death. This means this is Spiderman/TASM 1 and 2 villians.
Tobey and Peter had just acquired their powers when they faught Green Goblin and The Lizard they are complete newbies. I'm not sure exactly what grade they're in both are in high school. Tom I think gets his powers as a junior and has been active for quite a while at this point he's about to graduate high school. This means he's just as 9lf if not a year older than Andrew and Toby when they get bit. He's vastly more experienced as well however he does worse against Goblin or Lizard than the other Peter's. Tobey was badly beaten near the end of the movie because of him helping others yet without killing intent was able to effortlessly defeat Goblin so bad he begged and pleaded. Tom had to be completely bloodlustrd to fight Goblin and even then he didn't actually hurt him. Goblin enjoyed himself and laughed away all his attacks and suffered no bruises. Tobey is clearly stronger than current Tom in his first movie going off those performances. Tom couldn't even evade or free himself from the Lizard when he grabbed him I understand he was damaged from Goblin but Andrew had similar levels of damage and could always free himself or escape the Lizard despite his conditions.
@@diamantemrobinson your argument became stupid after u said the goblin "begged". Please, at least watch the movie you base your arguments on before people like be beat your ass
"The Perfect Spider-Man Powerset"
would be a top 5 or 6 non-cosmic Powerset in comics. The Best abilities via every Spider-Man & bond w/ a Symbiote
It's curious how the first punch Goby gave Tom was because he attacked Tom while he was dodging Electro's lighting and the fatal WWE move was because a Team up between lizard and Goby
not exactly a fair fight for sure!
Put it this way, tobeys beat goby into submission in just 3 clean punches despite having a grenade to the face
@@danielmillward9947 Well yeah Tobey was weakened during the fight bc he had to lift a train car and save mary jane and then goblin threw him into the building and beat him up then goblin mentioned mary Jane tobey went back to full strength and waled on him.
@@KeyIssues actually it was because electro's lighting was returning and speed of returning lighting is 10000km/s that's roughly 30000 machs reflexes or 3000machs speed
@@danielmillward9947no
That was actually one of the better film/character analyses I've ever seen on youtube, great job.
Tom Holland’s Spidey already has as much experience if not more experience than the other Spider-Men. He took on some of the Avengers, Thanos, Vulture, Mysterio, and he’s already fought most of the Sinister Six. His Spider sense is on another level, not to mention his IQ. And keep in mind that he is still just a kid, so imagine how OP he’ll be as an adult.
Black Widow , Hawkeye , Falcon , Bucky were easy , Wanda Maximoff & Vision were challenging
spiderman literally got chokeslammed and face punted by thanos and absolutely tanked. tanked power stone moon attack.
mcu spiderman is obviously the strongest
4:52, bucky was lowering down his arm in shock and that rustling is probably sam's wings instead as he's preparing to charge at spider-man
This video is so well made in terms of editing pace script down to the shots chose 👌👏
Thank you! That means a lot
The main power spider-man has is brain, like "nobody can stop the Juggernaut" comic shows. And MCU Peter beats most spider-man that way.
That alone makes him a considerably bigger threat than the other two spider-men
people tend to forget just how much of a genius he is
A lot of people seem to miss a glider scene detail, which is Tom arms overpowering Tobey arms down; I think is because people is more focused on his face rather than the arms; or are heavely biased Raimi fans.
Also; after Tom forces Tobey do bend down we can see him stop trying as he gives a tiny nod at Tobey as "I understood what you are saying" and then we get a shoot at Tobey face but on a sad expresion, like pity , as if he was saying "I know it hurts and it isn't fear, but you have to be better than us" so then Tom puts down the gilder definitley
Wait, that's actually true. Nice find
Damn, Tom's a beast, he bested Tobey after all of that punishment and 3 nonsleep days
Yeah I mean he overpowered tobey when he was trying to come on his feet and make him back at previous sutuation
i wouldn't agree with that personally because that position Raimi Spider-Man was in was the only way you could stop a glider going down at that angle.
@@milk7150 he could have also snatched glider behind it like spider man snatched mjolnir from mighty thor in comics
I would say tobey held back, i mean look at his face
Not even making a face or anything, like just stopping a small inconvenience
Another good feat for mcu spider-man is being dropped by vulture over 3,000 ft high, high enough that he would’ve reached terminal velocity before hitting that water, and the parachute didn’t even help break his fall so he legit hit the water like concrete and still got up just fine afterwards
I was so fucking wrong. Def the strongest, probably the most powerful
We all know that Spider-Man was Marvel's most long-running superhero and most famous and popular Marvel superhero that ever exist in the Marvel history. He's is one of my all time favorite and my first superhero since I was 1 year old when I heard about him.
I know it'd probably be hard to do since they don't interact with anyone else in the wider MCU, but I'd love to see a power scaling for the Helstrom siblings.
haven’t seen it - is it good?
@@KeyIssues It’s no Daredevil, but it’s no Inhumans either. Out of the 18 shows so far, I’d probably put it in the middle of the pack.
I’ve always been appreciative towards the MCU Spider-Man. He’s very under appreciated
Awsome vid! Glad to see people putting respect on MCU Spider-Man’s name.Can u do a video on power scaling steppen wolf from Snyder cut, Deadpool from the movies, and a vid power scaling juggernaut and colusaus from the Deadpool movies
I scaled Steppenwolf in the Darkseid vs Thanos video.
Deadpool is really weak in his movies, but I will probably do it after the third one.
@@KeyIssues ok thx 😊
Jesus, I wish I wrote my resume the way you talk up Spider-Man. No shade, either. I love your perspective and attention to detail in representing Tom’s version of Spidey.
I've been waiting for this day
hope you like it!
Been defending this spiderman for years now people need to stop underestimating this spiderman Tobey and Andrew are iconic but MCU spiderman will have more feats than those two unless we get more movies that's the nature of the beast glad someone finally put a stop to the downplay it was long overdue
he also survived getting hit by a bullet train while off guard after being attacked by mysterio and stayed conscious long enough for him to get inside the train before passing out
Not to mention he got shot in the chest twice prior to getting run over
Tobey fans breaking their PlayStation controller right now watching this video. They hate logic and anything that accurately discusses MCU Peter Parker.
Edit: I’m a Spider-Man fanboy. Idgaf if it’s Reilly, Miles, Gwen, or MJ wearing the suit. So dear Tobey stans, don’t throw that MCU fanboy shit at me.
Well it's fair to say that this MCU spider man is the "Ultimate spider-man"
I can tell you broken ribs are no joke. You have to not sneeze, cough or laugh hard for months. I remember thinking I was almost healed up then having to leave a bar from laughing my ass off after hitting one of my friends so hard that I lifted him off the ground (we were acting like idiots) and to make it worse, I had a job that was a mix of moving furniture and construction, that I couldn't afford to give up. For like 2 or 3 months I had to sleep by crossing my arms, putting hands at my shoulders and lying on them. Im not a religious person but one night I was agony as I couldn't afford painkillers, I felt like I had an out of body experience, I felt like I was every person and everything on the planet, I felt like I was the sun in the sky, it was the most peaceful experience I ever had in my life, Ive heard other people describe the exact same thing not just from physical pain, in recent years Ive gone into hospital for spine nerve pain and temporarily been put on opiates but they didnt even come close to the tranquility I felt.
I know you tend to focus on Marvel stuff, but is there any chance you’d be down to Powerscale the Superman and Lois cast at some point? I think Jordan, Steel, and obviously Superman would give you plenty of material for videos.
maybe - i havent watched the show
@@KeyIssues Definitely gotta recommend it. If you're worried that it's like the other CW shows, you don't have to be. It's actually good.
@@KeyIssues It really is a step above the previous CW shows, and Hoechlin may be the strongest LA take on the character.
How on Earth did you leave out the scene where he got hit by a MF TRAIN?!?
Also, characters such as Steve and Bucky are _enhanced_ [humans], while Spider-Man is _superhuman._
I've seen a lot of people saying that Tobey Maguire Peter Parker is stronger pointing out the scene with the glider but 1 Tom Holland Peter wanted to kill the goblin quickly with the glider so didn't care much about the stance he took and wasn't putting as much power as possible into his attack 2 Tobey Maguire Peter knew the horrible implications of killing the goblin so he was focussing his full strength on stopping Tom's Peter from going through with it and also took a stance that would lead to more strength (this also shows his experience), 3 Tom's Peter's injuries would also have made it harder to put as much power into the attack
Maguire doesn't even stop the glider, he only slows it down. You can how his arms start going down since he can't match with Tom strength.
You're welcome
Strong enough to punch a man’s jaw clean off. Peter (Tom) is very durable
yep
I've been waiting for a video like this 🤝
I've got to be honest I was waiting for this video to come out sooner or later
Here it is !
One thing about the lighting dodges is they don't just react to the lightning itself but also electros movements when he creates the lightning. This gives them more more time to react, as they can predict what he is doing
Yeah that is true so really they're not fast enough to dodge real lightning but electricity specifically from Electro.
A very entertaining and quality video. Keep up the good work bros.
This video deserves more views and likes than it has right now, and needs to be seen by ALOT more spidey fans bc they have all the wrong assumptions going on in their heads about the 3 spidermen😅
Been waiting for this one
hope you enjoyed it
@@KeyIssues I did bro thanks 😅
can’t wait to see moonknight scaling
Moon Knight - Deadpool - Spider-Man crossover in the horizon I can feel it
The Super-Elasticity (Evil Reed's or Plastic-Man's) & The Spider-Man Powerset & Archangel's powerset after "The Horseman Death" enhancements; are my top 3 fav powersets; Non-Cosmic (cuz 2 O.P.)
18:52 that physics problem he solves (and I'm sure you got this a few times) is in fact just what he does when web swinging, don't get me wrong peter is great at math because he quite literally uses it to swing consciously or unconsciously
There's only one complaint from me, I feel like you got his reaction speed wrong, you're basing it as if the lightening leaving electros hand is the Start, but tom had prior knowledge that he was doing that by electros movements himself, it felt like tom's reaction was more proactive and calculated than reactive, I just can't see him dodging lightning without the knowledge beforehand that it was coming
11:40 Love that the most replayed part of this video is watching Tom getting aggressively bullied and tossed around
To be honest after watching this he might be the strongest Spider-Man when it comes to movie history
No chance, tobeys is so much stronger and durable its a joke
@@danielmillward9947 your comment is a joke. (you want to be writing comments in other post I am just going to track you down. (i am a loser like that, sorry)
@@danielmillward9947 false, as a tired holland has overpowered Tobey, besides not being knocked down (not even by bullet train), unlike Maguire
@@hjkggbjkkbvhjhhjkjh8536 he was knocked down by that train way quicker that tobey
@@emeraldiguana7316Spider-Man is stronger than captain America 😊
Wow I never realized that Shocker's gauntlets in the MCU were just a hand-me-down from Brock Rumlow.
Another good vid.. I'm still wondering who gave Goblin the juice in no way home😂
I think Spider-Man catching Buckys arm was such a genius way to show off how strong he is while still being very subtle.
An even more minor detail, which I like to believe is true even if it turns out to be unintentional, is how Peter prepares to catch Bucks punch AT THE SAME time as Bucky, subtly showing off his spider sense
I’m convinced that Spider-Man post No Way Home Spider-Man could solo the Whole OG Avengers minus Thor and Hulk
Thanks for this video. Tom is 100% the strongest Spider-Man after NWH, regardless of the lies the Raimi fanboys say
Well shit, now I'm *actually* wondering who between Earth 616 and MCU Spider-man would win
Probably 616 rn considering experience plays a major role in a 1v1
@@henxiety Honestly yeah, and the fact that 616 Spider-man has way better strength feats, at the same time though it's hard to consider 616 characters as a single version of a character due to there being so many writers
616 stomps all 3 LA Spider-Men
Tobey :
Multi City block Level - Multi City Block Level
Andrew : Wall Level - City Block Level as a high end
Tom : City Block Level - Country Level
Tom Holland my favourite Spider-Man
Another excellent presentation. Thank you kindly!
And his webs are strong enough to withstand his raw strength
I'm in the hospital right now because I have a fever and broke my rib coughing. I feel asleep then woke up right at the part where you were explaining my injury today. What're the odds
CRISIS made a power scaling video for Tobey.
Key Issues made a power scaling video for Tom.
Now we just need to have a power scaling video for Andrew.
might as well do that too
@@KeyIssues Yeah, same
@@CRISIS_COMICS When you do make one for Andrew, make a composite TASM Spider-Man using the TASM games like you did with Tobey.
@@epiccraftmine4976 Andrew does have some good stuff in his games ngl
@@CRISIS_COMICS Yeah 👍. And I wonder where a composite version of MCU Spidey goes in terms of power since he doesn't have games compared to the other two.
I'm pretty sure that various hero organizations throughout the marvel universe know of and often give Peter a call. He is undeniably a heavy hitter on any marvel roster! So underrated.
Raimi spidey is OVERESTIMATED and very inconsistent (beyond the life crisis episode)
Seriously! "Oh he stops a train!" Yeah, and he also can't knock out a 40 year old man who has no physical augmentation.
@@kaine7672 EXACTLY
"Oh he holds back" no he fucken doesn't. He literally threw that same fat middle-aged man off a skyscraper hit him with a hard sack of coins that is easily a couple hundred pounds threw a couple hundred pounds hardwood desk at him with enough force to knock him the a building and crush a car clotheslines Harry's throat at high velocity and on and on.
He just doesn't have good striking but he he definitely doesn't pull his punches.
And constantly using the noveliztion and supplemental resources that CONTRADICT what's seen onscreen all the time is so annoying.
🤓 the novelization says his web balls would knock the goblin(who's a SUPER super soldier)s head clean off. Meanwhile we SEE the web balls hit regular old bank robbers without blowing them apart. Its apparent these bums don't know what hyperbole is. And resident raimi "expert" especially just d*ck rides has no common sense whatsoever.
@@kaine7672 Which 40-year-old man are you talking about?. And yeah him stopping a speeding train going 60-70 mph is more impressive than anything any other live-action Spiderman has done.
@@controlman7490 doc ock
@@kaine7672 He wasn't trying to knock him out and MCU Spiderman never knocked Doc Ock out either. It's a well-known fact most variants of Spiderman holg back against their villains.
he got hit by a bullet train IN THE FACE all the way to netherlands, without bracing himself for shield or cover. & he just sleep it off.
people don't like Tom Spider man? hes my fave and I've been around since the Toby Man.
I wish that his Spider-Sense/Peter Tingle in the MCU had that alarm buzzing sound. Now that would've pleased all the fans.
MCU Spidey is insanely strong. I don't get why people downplay him so much.
It’s literally biases for other Spider-Men from the previous movies. If you’re not “someone’s favourite version of Spider-Man”, then you’re Spider-Man is shit, regardless if your Spider-Man is strong. That’s why I don’t tend to speak to Spider-Man fans online and share my love for all three Spider-Men because it would just devolve into a pissing context from toxic fanboys on all sides.
@@silverwaveproductions4672 I mean, yeah. I actively dislike Tobey's Spider-Man, but that shouldn't mean I can just downplay his strength feats when doing powerscaling. Apparently people don't get the memo that strength isn't the same as how much you like a character.
Just Tobey stans, Andrew stans are very chill
@@hjkggbjkkbvhjhhjkjh8536 Oh yeah. I noticed that. Tobey fans are the most aggressive ones out there.
I love that montage of him getting rag dolled cuz even after all of it he kept going
can you power scale MCU Iron Man
Yep! Will do eventually
Because of the goblin it seems to be that all spider man are all around the same strength. Well Tobey’s version is a bit older so maybe a bit weaker but he seems to be more experienced.
If in next movie he fuses with Sony venom
from the 2017 Spider man cartoon, spiders can hold 173 times their weight and peter has the proportional strength of a spider so if he weighted 70kg he would be able to hold 12,110kg or 12 Tons but that’s not MCU, however it is still pretty impressive
He’s objectively the strongest most experienced Spider-Man we’ve seen in live action. I’d bet he would win in a 1v1 fight with Tobey or Andrew. Marvel knew what they were doing gradually increasing his abilities and using his skills accordingly to the universe. By the end of No way Home he’s very well rounded and now we’re going to see him struggle internally with the depressive state his life is in by that movie. It’s going to be intresting to see how the next trilogy tries to carry a balance between being a bigger better movie then his previous appearances while also trying to be grounded and tell a Peter Parker story. Wilson Fisk would def be my pick and set up his in universe sinister 6 just so we get to see his strength feats again but improved given his maturity and experience gains. He’ll go down in history as one of the best although Andrew is still my favorite I give Tom all the props
Crisis made a full fledged video Explaining why Tobey's Spiderman is by far the strongest till now
Wilson Fisk would be too easy as a threat for Spidey (on his own ofc, different story when his whole crime shenanigans is involved ), I think if you really want more strength feats for MCU Spidey (which I want too), rhino as a side villain with mr.negative as main would be good, it also sets more S6 members
But Wilson Fisk with tombstone would be better choice for a more grounded story about Spider-Man protecting new York against their organization
@@lookeshdas455 that train scene is still undefeated.
@@marcobrusas2001 I think I also want Fisk just so we can see daredevil and spidey have a cross over film. Fisk on his own isn’t much of a threat but his allies and resources do. I still want Tom to face his own venom and green goblin though
Spiderman being lightning-dodging level is insane. I always thought Spiderman stories worked best when the guy is like super-soldier+++ levels of strength and durability with like supersonic speed feats. But I mean this is the MCU, so a Spiderman like that would be underwhelming.
Can you do Loki next
I'll get to Loki eventually!
Not to mention that from about halfway through No Way Home, on top of everything he is going through, he's also going through serious emotional damage.